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what's the point of being born in a reality where you have no idea what happens when you die
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>>42341742
The uncertainty makes people responsible for what happens while you're alive.
If you know for sure it "doesn't matter", then reality as a concept crumbles and turns into hell.
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>>42341742
Sure we do. We just have to find people who've died and came back to tell the tale. They're NDEs. In essence, it's the same thing that happens to your dream character when you go to sleep at night and wake up.

>>42341745
Well, yeah. If people found out they were immortal and could basically retry life to live out their ideal, there would be mass-suicides. That's why many people who take LSD commit suicide; they see past through the meaninglessness and illusion of it all.
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>>42341745
>The uncertainty makes people responsible for what happens while you're alive.
everything anyone does is the result of circumstances that influenced them and their behavior, even their own biology. try to act normal when you're starving or being abused, or have a physically damaged brain that affects your behavior and ability for reasoning. accountability and free will don't exist. everything is fate.

>>42341789
>it's the same thing that happens to your dream character when you go to sleep at night and wake up.
i believe something similar about the dream world being the afterlife or "real" life but i think that is even filtered for us while we're still alive. and I've had tons of disturbing and uncomfortable dreams lately that feel like playing a messed up flash game from the 2000s so id rather not believe the afterlife or true reality contains places like that, and i would hope that you can escape from them if they exist.
>Well, yeah. If people found out they were immortal and could basically retry life to live out their ideal, there would be mass-suicides.
lol. i really dont believe this. how do you become a god? because being a human is fucking shit. living as a victim of abusers stronger than you starting in childhood, economic slavery, and mental illnesses + brain damage that can literally turn your reality into a video game with bugs in it that creates "glitches" in reality is a fucking nightmare.
and my "ideal" would be to never suffer and never become evil and never be subservient to any other entity. and also to actually look the way i want.
it's also funny how people call you a "materialist" for caring about your looks but also somehow believe suicide is bad. if the "material realm" is so pointless, then by the same stupid fucking logic it's completely fine to commit suicide.
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>>42341742
it's reincarnation from looking at the evidence... it's not uncertain at all, just look into the facts more
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>>42341742
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>>42341742
If you want to know what happens just study astrology. It loops, you die in capricorn, lose your identity in aquarius, soul contemplation in pisces and rebirths in aries.
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>>42341789
>>42341969
also i dont like the new agey and Hindu origin claim that the soul is somehow invincible from damage because it's "immortal". your soul can still be fucking subjugated and tortured and experience physical and emotional and mental pain and mental illness. you can't just exit this world like a video game with ease.
I think Taoists got it right because they figured out how to develop and evolve the soul and become a god. not just repeating "the soul is immortal" over and over while the soul is still being recycled and tortured.
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>>42341989
i dont accept such a repulsive process when i dont even know it for sure.
even in India the hell realm of the Earth where the concept of reincarnation originated from they didnt even all originally believe in it. in some regions they believed that people go to a different realm when they die and can receive offerings, like Koreans. they didnt say you reincarnate into a rat or something.
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>>42342002
how do i even know there's a soul? Buddhism completely broke my view of reality and destroyed my life. i also grew up in a Hindu cult which isnt much better.
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>>42341742
God is a retarded lying tranny who tries to pretend that the afterlife will be better than my life right now when he literally abuses me for my thoughts right now. The afterlife is just dreaming in the womb and the fact that God abuses me for things like thinking and playing video games is proof that his problem is me being happy/enjoying myself. The nature of God doesn't change, he's not going to magically become more tolerant of my happiness when I'm dead in the womb, if he abuses me for my thoughts, playing video games, watching tv/movies now then he not going to allow me to experience anything more enjoyable than that when I die, or as enjoyable as that. God is a retarded tranny who never intends to stop making my life hell, he doesn't tolerate me being happy in life and he won't tolerate me being happy in death either.
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>>42342009
please look more into scientifically researched cases and case studies. the actual mechanics of reincarnation don't align with any religion. read Life before Life by Dr. Jim Tucker, great book
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>>42342019
Take psychedelics until you see the astral matrix or talk to a psychic who will know things about you that aren't possible in a material only reality.
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>>42342019
again I recommend Life before Life, it'll give you more than enough evidence.
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>>42342035
>>42342043
i dont like new agey stuff. and the idea of being forced by reality to become human over and over is sickening to me. i wanna live in a higher realm, not the human shithole. i dont wanna suffer. i dont wanna be a victim of evil people who get away with everything. i dont wanna deal with being terrified of religions that threaten eternal hell or disgustingly soul-crushing religions like Buddhism that say there are no permanent heavens and you have to annihilate your own existence to be free from suffering or children who killed their abusive parents are gonna to go Avici hell for quintillions of years. i despise religion so much.

I think Taoist cultivators figured out how to ascend and become gods or other higher beings but i dont know where to gain actual legitimate knowledge of how to do it and im a western mutt foreigner.
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>>42342039
>talk to a psychic who will know things about you that aren't possible in a material only reality.
if i do this with western or Indian psychics theyll tell me their own beliefs about "karmic cycles" and "karma". karma is victim blaming from a disgusting barbaric society, India. East Asians didnt believe in that shit until Indians made contact with them. East Asian fortune tellers tell you your fate and what gives you good and bad luck, not saying you deserve to suffer for things you cant remember doing. but im not east Asian so i dont know how to communicate with them.
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>>42342071
Find ones that specialize in past life readings. If it resonates with you then you will know. You can compare your last life to your current life to see if you received karma for something.
From my own experience I did receive karma. Not remembering is not an excuse because your energy is the same.
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>>42342165
>If it resonates with you then you will know
i had a dream where a voice told me "Some people choose to be tortured in this life so that they have an advantage in the afterlife." so a bunch of sadistic power abusers in India claiming that lower caste dalits who hear the scriptures being recited should have molten lead poured in their ears for it and that children who were abused or raped deserved it doesnt "resonate" with me. fuck dharmic religions.
>Not remembering is not an excuse because your energy is the same.
yeah i think this is dumb as shit. i think reality is ultimately lawless and Taoism says this too. I've witnessed for myself an evil piece of shit get away with doing evil and be assisted in evil. if there were a universal objective morality that punished evil then demons, powerful manifestations of evil, wouldnt exist in the first place.
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>>42342186
You're not even sure a soul exists. You really don't know anything.
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>>42342204
yeah, i dont know for sure. that doesnt change that karma is a sick concept. only people who have experienced true abuse and victimization understand it. everyone else just scoffs at people suffering and says "thats just their karma". i was like that when i was 14 until my life spun out of control, which happened when i stopped worshipping the hindu god of the cult i grew up in, by the way. i think dharmic religions are repulsive.
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>>42342034
God' is a bitch for brutally niggraping my mind in the level of the Goosh Goosh meme and thus forcing me into a hellmatrix, as well as forcing me to eat the most vile, gaggable nigg tier niggslop like stews concocted from cockroaches and maggots, semen, and spoiled vegetables. I cannot get even basic foods like plain white bread, white rice, crackers, fresh fruit or even clean water. He also only gives me the ugliest ogre gorilla broads for me as an option to date or wank too, even tho they still reject me for an even uglier hoggoblin tier loser, and also would rather get blue balls then jack to them. The worst thing he does to me though is forcing me to type out very longwinded posts everytime the topic of God is brought up. I hardly have enough time to sleep or eat my niggslop or find broads as most of my time is spent typing up extremely blasphemous and hilarious stereotypically schizophrenic ranting and ramblings. I have typed so much that my fingers have their bones showing.
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>>42342055
you're a useful idiot. why assume stuff before reading? the book is a study, not part of a movement
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>>42341789
People on LSD do not just start committing suicide you absolute fucking mongoloid.
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>>42341742
we do know what happens
basically your mind is rendered by your brain so when your brain stops working your mind disappears forever while eternal material elements aligned into your body through evolution break down into something else (like ash or earth fertilizer)
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>>42341742
It's because otherwise people would nope out en masse when things got tough, if they knew there were nothing really at stake.
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>>42341742
It is about hope and belief in something greater, something that you clearly lack.
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>>42341742
What happens when I crush a bug

You're constrained by your human mindset. To truly understand you have to open your mind further.



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