For those who daydream without consent, and even have preemptive dreams that come true, do you think life after death is just this?If we didn't have our body to ground ourselves back from our dreams, then that would just be reality to us at that point. For instance, often times I have dreamed of Heaven and Hell in full detail.
yesi think maladaptive daydreaming is basically the same thing as astral projection, it's can also just be called more simply Jungian possession.The collective unconscious draws from an objective experience outside of our own phenomenology.We cannot truly rejoin the transcendent One without the beatific vision before death.Maladaptive daydreaming creates a dissociative hypnotic state in which the physical body can be temporarily ignored to touch at the truth, but never truly grasped in its entirety.Thus "maladaptive daydreaming" "astal projection" "spiritual meditations" are really all the same practice of connecting but people become confused through different interpretations of what they see. It's like a world where everybody is colorblind and insisting that what they see is the one true colortldr new age is based and you should be new age if you've got a brain in your skull
>>42344694Sorry kiddo, you just have attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Those maladaptive daydreams occur because your mind can't sit still, so it uses thoughts and images that you project onto eyelids as a mental fidget spinner to keep yourself busy.
>>42344764>tldr new age is based and you should be new age if you've got a brain in your skullThe new age movement was popularized by lazy middle class hippies who mooched off of their parents money and did nothing but think so much they thought that bring able to think was special. They did a lot of drugs, did the absolute most to do the absolute least, pushed psychedelics down everyone's throats culturally speaking, and these same lunatics later became tomorrow's pedophiles and sex pests. And funnily enough, the occurrence of autism in children coincidentally skyrocketed around the same time after new age hippies turned an age where they settled down and had kids.
>>42344799typical ad hominem from a retard that knows nothing and will never know anythingpro tip: if you arent engaging with intellectual elitism, you aren't engaging
maladaptive is a prejudiced wordonly NPCs call it that because they hate anything that might interfere with skool, wageslaving, and other work of keeping society and the herd functioningfuck 'emdo all the "daydreaming" you want, there's nothing bad about having a big imagination
>>42344805You're not a superhero and you can't change the world from your bedroom. Your thoughts aren't special, and no amount of magical thinking or sparkly new-age wu can change the fact that your actions in your personal life need work. All thoughts are worthless unless acted upon. And no one can act on a single new-age thought, because every single new age thought is worthless, it's brain rot but spray painted gold.
>>42344809Maladaptive is the correct word. Maladaptive means something that hinders daily life, makes socializing difficult, or prevents or stagnates or slows down maturation and personal development. And maladaptive daydreaming does all of the above.
>>42344815demoralizing agent mad because you want people to participate in useless games and win useless prizeskeep spinning your wheels trying to "change the world" I'd rather sail on the seas than try to dredge them
>>42344837>I'd rather sail on the seasNo you wouldn't. I've sailed seas, you imagine yourself sailing them. We are not the same.
Post and fiction based gangstalking. I was literally just thinking about Saya like 40 or so minutes ago.
>>42344845I've sailed too, you aren't as unique as you think.You can draw a perimeter around the world but never divide it up
>>42344855Stop talking like you're some old sage, you're not Confucius, you're some 18 - 30 year old westerner whose probably just had a shit and finished off a packet of Doritos and you are currently staring at a screen. Do yourself a favor and let go of the new age LARP, it's not going to make you smart it makes you stupid.
>>42344866confucius shit and ate food too. you're just poisoning the well because you're afraid of the truth
>>42344884You haven't spoken a truth, at least not with the new age shit. Right now you are being blunt and honest, that's the truthful version of you. It looks good on you. Not like the New Age word vomit you choked up before
>>42344901oh, you're insecure because you didn't understand the vocabulary i was using, now it makes sense
>>42344833>hinders daily life, makes socializing difficultthat's what I just said>prevents or stagnates or slows down maturation and personal developmentdepends on how you define mature and developed, hmm?to the people throwing that term around it all just means becoming a functioning member of the herd, while anyone not so prejudiced would see the potential in "daydreaming" for personal growth in other ways, arguably nobler waysbut if you wanna kill your "daydreaming" and become an NPC dullard too that's fine
>>42344919>oh, you're insecure because you didn't understand the vocabulary i was using, now it makes senseAnd now you showed your hand, you only bothered typing all of it to try to sound smart. I understood every word you wrote, but the words were empty and had no reason or rational logic behind them. And that's because you espouse new age ramblings. And I think you should cease doing that because you're smarter than that, don't waste your mind on new age fraud think.>>42344922>depends on how you define mature and developed, hmm?It's not relative or subjective, it's objective. Someone who is matured ha impulse control, and routinely uses their thoughts to make changes or actions with their body in day to day life. That's what thoughts are for, to formulate power of will to then execute actions in real life. And someone who is developed is someone who understands they are still developing, and rather than chase ideals like a fantasist, they work with what is real like a man. The truth is, being an outcast does not make others part of a herd. You can still have self-actualization without being a recluse. Daydreaming accomplishes precisely nothing. You can argue imagination is required for creativity, but let's be honest, what will e created besides a post on 4chan? Do you really consider that noble?Daydreamers are dull. That's why they daydream, because their lives are dull and they want to imagine less dull fantasies. If you want to become adult in your thinking, get rid of daydreams and replace it with critical thinking.
>>42344974>don't waste your mind on new age fraud think.typical of somebody who hasn't learned enough to think
>>42344986>typical of somebody who hasn't learned enough to thinkDo you see what I mean? The hubris for being able to think. Do you believe thinking is special or hard work? You may as well brag about being able to breathe or wipe your own ass. It's really not profound anon, thinking isn't as special as you want it to be. This goes for everyone, not just you, me included. Actions are the be all and end all of reality, nothing less and nothing more.
>>42344994>Do you believe thinking is special or hard work?it is
No. 42344850Get a job
>>42345000If thinking is hard for you, please reconsider your own estimation of your intelligence. If breathing is hard work for someone they should see a doctor. If thinking is hard work for you, go get help.
>>42345014Living is something that we literally cannot go without, but the question of a good life is profoundly hard. Thinking is the same. You can think a lot, but it is only successful if it can be used to discover truth. There is little more important than that.
>>42345020A good life is not a question, a good life is an answer. And it's an answer you provide for yourself. And you get those answers not from questions you pose to yourself ceaselessly, picking at your own mind as if it were a scab, but from when life outside of you challenges you and you must answer. Truth is not discovered, truth is remembered. Because the truth is always self evident, and if someone does not see truth it's because they refuse to look.
>>42345036>the truth is always self evidentthat's ridiculous
>>42344974>daydreaming means no impulse control>this isn't a world full of "mature" people with poor impulse control>instrumental thinking is the only worthy thinking>Real Man™ ain't no fantasist>humans don't naturally herd themselves u just dreamed that too>no one ever used imagination for anything but 4chan posts>real life is more interesting than fantasy>you can't have an imagination and think criticallyholy shit son, where do I even begin...
>>42345056No it's not. Because if you understood what you profess to mean, you say you search for truth. Which implies truth is outside of you. Which means truth can exist just fine without you and does not need your discovery to exist, and what we call that is self-evident. Those who know truth to be objective understand that truth does not come from within it comes from without. Those who pretend truth comes from within, they can only ever dissect themselves into 1,000 pieces into relativism into subjectivity, because they know 1,000 other people do the same, claiming to possess truth. Truth is possessed by no-one, it can only ever be witnessed. Because truth is always self evident. And that's why the new-age sucks. Because it doesn't care about the truth, it only cares about fabricating it, falsifying it, diluting it, dissolving it, and to subjectify it. The new age poison cares more about the questions than the answers. In fact it does not even want answers, only more questions. Because it's never about truth for the new age, it's only about mental masturbation.
>>42345076How about don't begin, try to control your impulse lest you say something stupid
>>42345093>Which means truth can exist just fine without you and does not need your discovery to exist, and what we call that is self-evident.retard. not gonna bother to respond to the rest
>>42345101>Dictionary Say you have autism without saying you have autism. Since you require the dictionary to hold your hand, look up the word "metonymy".
>>42344764I appreciate the response before derail
>>42344815btw literally no one said anything about saving anything or being a hero faggot. thats only in your imagination do you care to do such things.
you will never be a cat girl anime woman btw
>>42344974>, it's objective.It's subjective.> That's what thoughts are for, to formulate power of will to then execute actions in real lifeThoughts are "real life". Your discernment is arbitrary and based off a gamified way of "life". Severing these two is not good for you. Keeps you neurotic and attached to rat race trickery as seen in your SSRI induced attitude.>and rather than chase ideals like a fantasist, they work with what is real like a manArbitrary and also longhoused. Horrendous. Everything you type out will mean nothing now. Your children and nieces will be diddled and broken into pieces and they will deserve it. No paracosms? No healing. They will be disposable raped automatons.
I know the afterlife and you are on the right track. Dont accidentally drift into someone else dream and get eaten
>>42344815>You're not a superhero and you can't change the world from your bedroom.Why the fuck would you want to change the world at all? I only want to change my world or my view on the world.>Your thoughts aren't specialWell to you, no they aren't. Because you can't see them, only your own thoughts are to you. To me my thoughts are special and important to me.>no amount of magical thinking or sparkly new-age wu can change the fact that your actions in your personal life need work.Noone claimed this, what are you even responding to? Yes it's important to work on ones own actions in their personal life. However it's subjective to the person what counts as "work".>All thoughts are worthless unless acted upon. This just isn't true. Think more about why we have thoughts and where they come from.
>>42344764>sensual anime image>new age goy slop le good Typical liberal midwit
>>42344974>routinely uses their thoughts to make changes or actions with their body in day to day life.Literally everyone does this. Daydreamers just also indulge in their thoughts. >That's what thoughts are for, to formulate power of will to then execute actions in real life.How can you say daydreaming doesn't also do this. Just because the process is long doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Daydreaming is a way of sorting out your mind and exploring it in order to further develop your will.
