How can people genuinely believe in anything spiritual? All it takes is one glance at any science related Wiki page to find out it's all bullshit
>>42350917Reddit post, kys
>look at a wiki page for anybody with spiritual abilities>uh uh they cheated or something!
>>42350917The more I come to understand the principles of logic and reason in defining reality, the more I understand that they are not effective tools for the task, and the reality in question actively evades definition.
>>42350917I come here for the alien and UFO shit, but unfortunately even those threads are filled to the brim with religious schizos talking about demons and Christ. I don't understand why you can't be a materialist who respects logic and the scientific method while also believing in advanced, highly intelligent extraterrestrial life.
>>42350964>materialist who respects logic and the scientific methodjesus christ gross, give a warning next time before you say something so disgusting
>>42350991Superstition and backwardness keep you a slave to your own worst instincts. Embrace reason. The greatest peaks of human civilization (the Renaissance, for instance) were achieved by people who valued and respected logic and man's ability to ascertain the truth of reality.
>>42350917Nothing but delusions on this board. There are no supernatural forces, souls, magick, spirits, life after death, tulpas, undead beings or giant conspiracies hiding things we cannot imagine right under the surface of what we can see. Reality is cold and driven purely by power, intelligence, determination and manipulation. There is no hidden meaning, no destiny, no reason to live. Reality is both a giant playground for us to explore and progress in, but also an arena for us to fight in for our false ideologies. If you fail at life, you will never find anything to hold on to. No aliens, no haunted houses, no spirits, no demons to fight. You're only fighting with your own delusions, and desperately trying not to hit the absolute bottom. Now try to prove me wrong, if there really is anyone still treating this paranormal shit seriously.
>>42351031All of that civilization culminated in making technology for troons to exist so what good was it?
Is this the soulless kike demoralization thread?
>>42351031>(the Renaissance, for instance) were achieved by people who valued and respected logic and man's ability to ascertain the truth of reality.Yeah but they also believed in God
>>42350917absence of evidence is not evidence of absence 99% of known human existence under structured large-scale societies had a heavy emphasis on religion or spirituality. That should speak for itself.
>>42350917Because it’s fun
>>42351084>humans living in a city means their woowoo is realI'm not sure that logically follows
>>42351252You think you're an evolved monkey, shut up retard.
>>42351031>The Renaissance, for instanceYou mean the rise of faggotmasons and the beginning of turning the world into the gay niggerhell it is today? Are you posting from Eglin afb? Your posting style is uncanny and sticks out as someone that definitely does not use this place at all.
>>42351459>Your posting style is uncanny and sticks out as someone that definitely does not use this place at all.I've been posting on 4chan for 15 years. I just want to talk about fucking UFOs without some schizophrenic Christcuck trying to tell me that I need to repent to ward off the demons.
Science is about discovering God and much of history and science has been manipulated by the Freemasons
>>42350917Have you considered that reality and logic are nothing in comparison to human desire to feel special and unique?
>>42350950>test magic>didn’t work!>it’s the test that was wrong….You are dumber than the frog OP.
>>42350917Oh? Do you have Tiktok installed? Granted many are fakes. But there's lots of high definition paranormal videos. Suppose you're a Skinwalker telling us there's no Skinwalkers?
>>42351054Could just be a brown frogposter, it takes less than a minute to research and understand NDE visions from those with disabilities such as blindness to realize everything spiritual is real and science is almost entirely fake. Look what science brought us, pictures of flies on the "mars rover", underwater nasa greenscreens, fake landings, vaccines which culled millions. Science is fake rick and morty cartoons in and out, only pathetic failures believe in it.
>>42350917amazingconfusing physics with metaphysicsthe brainwashing is effective
>>42351557>strawmanthe daily bread of the skeptard
>>42351031>Superstition and backwardnessprojection
>>42351474not gonna workno alien element without spiritual componentyou're just worshiping science and looking for your own daddy in the skypathetic desu
>>42351033>Now try to prove me wrongwhy would weyou're building your own castlehave fun with it, while it lasts
>>42350917There are multiple different threads on this board about magic usage and zero confirmed cases of magic being used. Really makes you think.
>>42350964>materialist who respects logiclol. ironically some of these people understand much better than you why you can't. this is the board with both the dumbest people and the smartest people on 4chan
>>42350917>How can people genuinely believe in anything spiritual?We didn't take the covid jab and boosters.Ever had sleep paralysis? ever done heroic doses of psychedelics? there's so much more to this universe than meets the eye, we only physically see a small glimpse
>>42351033https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/text/Nothing%20but%20delusions%20on%20this%20board./Are you getting the attention you need faggot(·•᷄∩•᷅ )
>>42350917How do you not?>All it takes is one glance at any science related Wiki page to find out it's all bullshitXD >>42350929lol
>>42353641AlsoBancel, P. (1999). Report on ICRL Internship at PEAR: REG Experiments with meditation practitioners. [Unpublished manuscript.]Bierman, D. (2007). fMRI and photoemission study of presentiment: The role of “coherence” in retrocausal processes. [Final report for Bial Grant 34/04. Unpublished manuscript.]Bierman, D. (2010). The potential anomalous component of intuition: Empirical evidence and an integrated theoretical approach. In Behind and Beyond the Brain, ed. by F. Lopes da Silva, A. Castro-Caldas, C. Watt, D. Bierman, M. Cardoso, & R.M. Cardoso, 95-109. (8th Bial Symposium). Porto, Portugal: Fundação BialBrady, C., & Morris, R.L. (1997). Attention focusing facilitated through remote mental interaction: A replication and exploration of parameters. The Parapsychological Association 40th Annual Convention proceedings of presented papers, 73–91. Durham, North Carolina, USA: Parapsychological AssociationBraud, L.W., & Boston, D.A. (1986). Target preference and clairvoyance in selected subjects following relaxation induction. In Research in Parapsychology 1985, ed. by D.H. Weiner & D.I. Radin, 25-28 Metuchen, New Jersey, USA: Scarecrow PressBraud, W.G. (1974). Relaxation as a psi-conducive state. Bulletin of the the Psychonomic Society 3, 115-18Braud W.G. (1975). Psi-conducive States. Journal of Communication 25, 142-52.Braud, W.G. (1978). Psi-conducive conditions: Explorations and interpretations. In Psi and States of Awareness, ed. by B. Shapin & L. Coly, 1-41. New York: Parapsychology FoundationBraud, W.G. (1990). Meditation and psychokinesis. Parapsychology Review 21, 9-11Braud, W.G. (2002). Psi-favourable conditions. In New Frontiers of Human Science, ed. by V.G. Ramohan, 95-118. Jefferson, North Carolina, USA: McFarlandBraud, W.G. (2006). Patanjali yoga and siddhis: Their relevance to parapsychological theory and research. In Handbook of Indian Psychology, ed. by K.R. Rao, M. Cornelissen, & J. Dalal. New Delhi: Motilal Banarsidass
>>42353648Braud, W.G., & Hartgrove, J. (1976). Clairvoyance and psychokinesis in transcendental meditators and matched control subjects: A preliminary study. European Journal of Parapsychology 1, 6–16.Braud, W.G., Shafer, D., McNeill, K., & Guerra, V. (1995). Attention focusing facilitated through remote mental interaction. Journal of the the American Society for Psychical Research 89, 103-15.Cahn, B.R., & Polich, J. (2006). Meditation states and traits: EEG, ERP, and neuroimaging studies. Psychological Bulletin 132, 180-211.Cardeña, E. (2009). Beyond Plato? Toward a science of alterations of consciousness. In Utrecht II: Charting the future of parapsychology, ed. by C. A. Roe, W. Kramer, & L. Coly, 305-22. New York: Parapsychology Foundation.Carpenter, J. (2012). First Sight: ESP and Parapsychology in Everyday Life. Lanham, Maryland, USA: Rowman & Littlefield.Carpenter, J., & Simmonds-Moore, C. (2009). ESP contribution to the unconscious formation of a preference. Paper presented at the 52nd Convention of the Parapsychological Association, Seattle, Washington, USAConze, E. (trans. & ed.) (1995). The Large Sutra on Perfect Wisdom. New elhi: Motilal BanarsidasDalai Lama, H.H. (2002). Freedom in Exile. London: Abacus.Dukhan, H., & Rao, K.R. (1973). Meditation and ESP scoring. In Research in Parapsychology 1972, ed. by W.G. Roll, R.L. Morris, & J.D. Morris, 148-51. Metuchen, New Jersey: Scarecrow PresssEdge, H., Suryani, L.K. & Morris, R.L. (2007). Pursuing psi in a non-Euro American culture: Behavioural DMILS in Bali. Final report for Bial Grant 127/02. [Unpublished manuscript.]Edge, H., Suryani, L.K., Tiliopoulos, N., Bikker, A., & James, R. (2008). Comparing conscious and physiological measurements in a cognitive DMILS study in Bali. Final report for Bial Grant 116/04. [Unpublished manuscript.]Edge, H, Suryani, L.K, Tiliopoulos, N., & Morris, R.L. (2004). Two cognitive DMILS studies in Bali. Journal of Parapsychology 68, 289-321.
>>42353651Haraldsson, E. (2013). Modern Miracles: Sathya Sai Baba, the Story of a Modern Day Prophet. Guildford, UK: White Crow Books.Harding, S.E., & Thalbourne, M.A. (1981). Transcendental meditation, clairvoyant ability and psychological adjustment. In Research in Parapsychology 1980, ed. by W.G.Roll & J. Beloff, 71-73. Metuchen, New Jersey, USA: Scarecrow Press.Honorton, C. (1977a). Psi and internal attention states. In Handbook of Parapsychology, ed. by B.B. Wolman, 435-72. New York: Van Nostrand Rheinhold.Honorton, C. (1977b). Effects of meditation and feedback on psychokinetic performance: A pilot study with an instructor of Transcendental Meditation. In Research in Parapsychology 1976, ed. by J.D. Morris, W.G. Roll, & R.L. Morris, 95-97. Metuchen, New Jersey, USA: Scarecrow Press.Honorton, C. (1981). Psi, internal attention states and the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. In Concepts and Theories of Parapsychology, ed. by B. Shapin & L. Coly, 55-68. New York: Parapsychology Foundation.Honorton, C., & May, E. (1976). Volitional control in a psychokinetic task with auditory and visual feedback. In Research in Parapsychology 1975, ed. by J.D. Morris, W.G. Roll, & R.L. Morris, 90–91. Metuchen, New Jersey, USA: Scarecrow Press.Ivtzan, I. (2008). Meditation on consciousness. Journal of Scientific Exploration 22, 147-60.Kozak, L., Johnson, L.C., Richards, T., King, H., Standish, L.J., Schlitz, M.J., Simon, D., & Chopra, D. (2003). EEG evidence of correlated neural signals between physically and sensory isolated subjects who have undergone Primordial Sound Meditation (PSM) training. [Unpublished manuscript.]Kubose, S.K. (1976). An experimental investigation of psychological aspects of meditation. Psychologia 19, 1-10.
>>42353656Lamrimpa, G. (1995). Calming The Mind: Tibetan Buddhist Teachings on Cultivating Meditative Quiescence. Ithaca, New York, USA: Snow Lion.Lobach, E. (2010). Somatic component of intuition and psi. In Behind and Beyond the Brain, ed. by F. Lopes da Silva, A. Castro-Caldas, C. Watt, D. Bierman, M. Cardoso, & R.M. Cardoso, 75-85. 8th Bial Symposium. Porto, Portugal: Fundação Bial.MacLean, K.A., Ferrer, E., Aichele, S.R., Bridwell, D.A., Zanesco, A.P., Jacobs, T.L., & Saron, C.D. (2010). Intensive meditation training leads to improvements in perceptual discrimination and sustained attention. Psychological Science 21, 829-39.Mason, L.I., Patterson, R.P., & Radin, D.I. (2007). Exploratory study: The random number generator and group meditation. Journal of Scientific Exploration 21, 295-317.Matas, F., & Pantas, L. (1971). A PK experiment comparing meditating versus non-meditating subjects. Proceedings of the the Parapsychological Association 8, 12-13.Nash, C.B. (1982). Hypnosis and transcendental meditation as inducers of ESP. Parapsychology Review 13, 19-20.Nelson, R.D. (1999–2013). Global Consciousness Project. Peace meditations. [Available at: noosphere.princeton.edu]Nelson, R.D., Jahn, R.G., Dunne, B.J., & Dobynes, Y.H. (1998). Field REG II: Consciousness field effect: Replication and explorations. Journal of Scientific Exploration 22, 425-54.Osis, K., & Bokert, E. (1971). ESP and changed states of consciousness induced by meditation. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research 65, 245-88.Palmer, J., Khamashta, K., & Israelson, K. (1979). An ESP ganzfeld experiment with Transcendental Meditators. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research 73, 333-48.Radin, D. (2008). Testing nonlocal observation as a source of intuitive knowledge. EXPLORE: The Journal of Science and Healing 4, 25-35.Radin, D. (2013). Supernormal: Science, Yoga and the Evidence for Psychic Abilities. New York: Deepak Chopra Books.
>>42353669Radin, D., Michel, L., Galdamez, K., Wendland, P., Rickenbach, R., & Delorme, A. (2012). Consciousness and the double-slit interference pattern: Six experiments. Physics Essays 25, 157-71.Radin, D., Michel, L., Johnston, J., & Delorme, A. (2013). Psychophysical interactions with a double-slit interference pattern. Physics Essays 26, 553-66.Radin, D., Stone, J. Levine, E., Eskandarnejad, S., Schlitz, M., Kozak, L., Mandel, D., & Hayssen, G. (2008). Compassionate intention as a therapeutic intervention by partners of cancer patients: Effects of distant intention on the patients’ autonomic nervous system. EXPLORE: The Journal of Science and Healing 4, 235-43.Radin, D., Vieten, C., Michel, L., & Delorme, A. (2011). Electrocortical activity prior to unpredictable stimuli in meditators and nonmeditators. EXPLORE: The Journal of Science and Healing 7, 286-99.Rao, K.R., Duckan, H., & Rao, P.V.K. (1978). Yogic meditation and psi scoring in forced-choice and free-response tests. Journal of Indian Psychology 1, 160-75.Rao, K.R., & Puri, I. (1978). Subsensory perception (SSP), Extrasensory perception (ESP) and transcendental meditation (TM). Journal of Indian Psychology 1, 69-74.Rao, P.V.K., & Rao, K.R. (1982). Two studies of ESP and subliminal perception. Journal of Parapsychology 46, 185-207.Roe, C.A. (2010). The role of altered states of consciousness in extrasensory experiences. In Anomalous Experiences: Essays from Parapsychological and Psychological Perspectives, ed. by M. Smith, 25-49. Jefferson, North Carolina, USA: McFarland.Roll, W.G., Solfvin, G.F., Krieger, J., Ray, D., & Younts, L. (1980). Psi scoring on individual and group targets before and after meditation. In Research in Parapsychology 1979, ed by W.G. Roll, 172-74. Metuchen, New Jersey, USA: Scarecrow Press.
>>42353676Roll, W.G., & Zill, R. (1981). Psi scoring on individual and group targets before and after meditation. In Research in Parapsychology 1980, ed. by W.G Roll & J. Beloff, 73–75. Metuchen, New Jersey: Scarecrow Press.Roney-Dougal, S.M. (1986). Subliminal and psi perception: A review of the literature. Journal of the Society for Psychical Research 53, 405-34.Roney-Dougal, S.M. (1987). A comparison of subliminal and psi perception: exploratory and follow-up studies. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research 81, 141-82.Roney-Dougal, S.M. (2006). Taboo and belief in Tibetan psychic tradition. Journal of the Society of Psychical Research 70, 193-210.Roney-Dougal, S.M., Ryan, A., & Luke, D. (2011). Preliminary study of the relationship between local geomagnetic activity, Tibetan Buddhist meditation and psychic awareness. Paper presented at the 54th Parapsychological Association Convention, Curitiba, Brazil.Roney-Dougal, S.M., Ryan, A., & Luke, D (2013). Follow-up study of the relationship between local geomagnetic activity and psychic awareness. Paper presented at the 56th Parapsychological Association Convention, Viterbo, Italy.Roney-Dougal, S.M., & Solfvin, J. (2006). Yogic attainment in relation to awareness of precognitive targets. Journal of Parapsychology 70, 91-120.Roney-Dougal, S.M., & Solfvin, J. (2011). Exploring the relationship between Tibetan meditation attainment and precognition. Journal of Scientific Exploration 24, 29-46.Roney-Dougal, S.M., Solfvin, J., & Fox, J. (2008). An exploration of degree of meditation attainment in relation to psychic awareness with Tibetan Buddhists. Journal of Scientific Exploration 22, 161-78.Satyananda Saraswati, Sw. (1976/2000). Four Chapters on Freedom. Munger, India: Yoga Publications Trust.
>>42353680Schmeidler, G. (1970). High ESP scores after a swami’s brief instruction in meditation and breathing. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research 64, 100-3.Schmeidler, G. (1973). PK effects upon continuously recorded temperature. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research 67, 325-40.Schmeidler, G. (1986). Subliminal perception and ESP: Order in diversity? Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research 80, 241-64.Schmeidler, G. (1994). ESP experiments 1978–1992. In Advances in Parapsychological Research 7, ed. by S. Krippner, 104-97). Jefferson, North Carolina, USA: McFarlandSchmidt, H., & Pantas, L. (1972). Psi tests with internally different machines. Journal of Parapsychology 36, 222-32.Schmidt, H., & Schlitz, M. (1989). A large-scale pilot PK experiment with pre-recorded random events. In Research in Parapsychology 1988, ed. by L.A. Henkel & R.E. Berger, 6-10. Metuchen, New Jersey, USA: Scarecrow Press.Schmidt, S. (2008). Aristotle’s fly – Remarks on anomaly research and a review on the relationship between meditation and psi. In Behind and Beyond the Brain, ed. by F. Lopes da Silva, A. Castro-Caldas, C. Watt, D. Bierman, & M. Cardoso, 73–96. 7th Bial Symposium. Porto, Portugal: Fundação Bial.Schmidt, S. (2012). Can we help just by good intentions? A meta-analysis of experiments on distant intention effects. Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine 18, 529-33.Slagter, H.A., Lutz, A., Greischar, L.L., Nieuwenhuis, S., & Davidson, R.J. (2009). Theta phase synchrony and conscious target perception: Impact of intensive mental training. Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience 21, 1536-69.Stanford, R.G., & Palmer, J. (1973). Meditation prior to the ESP task: An EEG study with an outstanding ESP subject. In Research in Parapsychology 1972, ed. by W.G. Roll, R.L. Morris, & J.D. Morris, 34-36. Metuchen, New Jersey, USA: Scarecrow Press.
>>42353692Stanford, R.G., & Stevenson, I. (1972). EEG correlates of free-response GESP in an individual subject. Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research 66, 357-68.Strick, M., van Noorden, T.H.J., Ritskes, R.R., de Ruiter, J.R., & Dijksterhuis, A. (2012). Zen meditation and access to information in the unconscious, Consciousness and Cognition 21, 1476-81.Travis, F., & Shear, J. (2010). Focused attention, open monitoring and automatic self-transcending: Categories to organize meditations from Vedic, Buddhist and Chinese traditions. Consciousness and Cognition 19, 1110-18.Walach, H., Buchheld, N., Buttenmuller, V., Kleinknecht, N., & Schmidt, S. (2006). Measuring mindfulness—the Freiburg Mindfulness Inventory (FMI). Personality and Individual Differences 40, 1543-55.Wallace, B.A. (2006). The Attention Revolution. Boston, Massachusetts, USA: Wisdom Publications.Wallace, B.A., & Shapiro, S.L. (2006). Mental balance and well-being: Building bridges between Buddhism and Western psychology. American Psychologist 61, 690-701.Watt, C.A., & Baker, I.S. (2002). Remote facilitation of attention focusing with psi-supportive versus psi-unsupportive experimenter suggestions. Journal of Parapsychology 66, 151-68.Watt, C.A., & Brady, C. (2002). Experimenter effects and the remote facilitation of attention focusing: Two studies and the discovery of an artifact. Journal of Parapsychology 66, 49-71.Watt, C.A., & Ramakers, P. (2003). Experimenter effects with a remote facilitation of attention focusing task: A study with multiple believer and disbeliever experimenters. Journal of Parapsychology 67, 99-116.Winnett, R., & Honorton, C. (1977). Effects of meditation and feedback on psychokinetic performance: Results with practitioners of Japa yoga. In Research in Parapsychology 1976, ed. by J.D. Morris, W.G. Roll, & R.L. Morris, 97-98. Metuchen, New Jersey: Scarecrow Press.Yogananda, P. (1996). Autobiography of a Yogi (new ed.). London: Rider.
>>42353696>>42350917 Next time you try and come on here acting above us, just know the shallow waters on which you stand
>>42353713+1OP is obviously bait