>the entire world is genuinely ruled by ultra-rich proverbial vampires that rape and eat kids and are entirely above the fake and gay "law" that only ever actually punishes the poor who can't pay their way out of jeopardy Yeah, the more I think about it the more the idea that the millennial reign already happened and we're in Satan's season of enormous deception makes sense.
>>42361829Interesting
that image is BS btw.
>>42361829>Peasant's home>smells of BO and shit 24/7>piss on piles of straw>rats and mice everywhere>too windy and the roof caves in>no doctor, no drugstore, no nothing for miles>get an infected cut, die a horrible death for no reasonActually, that might be worth it to have a little free time. It's a trade off I guess.
>>42365314>smells of BO and shit 24/7>piss on piles of straw>rats and mice everywhere>too windy and the roof caves inBullshit, even authentic ones from that period are really nice.
>>42365336Not really a "peasant" then, more of a agricultural subsistence farmer with enough surplus to afford luxuries.A peasant/surf/slave were human property that only tilled what they were allowed to and paid a tax to the local lord just to exist.If we're comparing them to modern day people, I've got way nicer shit than chipped up old tables and bent iron pans. Plus I shit in a toilet.
>>42365296>>42361829Looks like a colored old photo. But besides that, about OP's take, those poor peasants, won't have the universe of services that the sad middle class can have when living in a tiny box in the big city.The poor peasant needs to complement that lack of opportunities and services, they needs animals, a farm, storage, a workshop to build their own tools, and even things like shoes, and clothing.There's always a "natural" balance at play. Always.Now you may think that everything is shit, and life is going to be hell, but, seriously, life is infinite times better today than it was 50 years ago. We ain't even talking about a hundred or a thousand years ago.At least today, you can see evil coming, you KNOW evil around you. You know where evil lingers and the ways you can avoid to get fucked, by some corrupt police officer, by some shitty business or company, you can even be aware and identify an unbearable government system, political AND economic, and act accordingly. You could move to Canada, or even "China", or one of those easy going european countries, where you can at least have a chance to get to an old age. We are living in a different world where the same evil exists, but also exist the right to get away of its reach if you' have the will to do it.
>>42365364>A peasant/surf/slave were human property that only tilled what they were allowed to and paid a tax to the local lord just to exist.Peasants, serfs and slaves are three different things. You don't even know what the fuck you are talking about.
>>42365365>more land than is feasibly obtainable without being rich>free to plant whatever the fuck you can get your hands on without some bureaucrat breathing heavily down your neck while pickpocketing you to line their pockets>power structure that will put their own lives on the line to defend not only your land but the right you have to do whatever the fuck you want with it, as long as you are open to supplying the military if necessary>can build as big of a structure, of any kind, for any purpose, as you are able to without paying for the labor you yourself provide>LiFe Is BeTtEr NoW¡¡¡
>>42365426To be honest Australia actually feels like a though place to "thrive", I would prefer staying in america over that one.
>>42365426>>42365459 I meant 'tough' place. You're away from the rest of the fucking world, that fucking heat, nah. I would take a boat and go to New Zealand.
>>42365459america is not "better". dont compare them either, they have their own problems. america lacks the same upward mobility the rest of the west lacks. some areas, nations, are worse off right now than others. some have read the books, understand the hands they were dealt, some folded those hands in question around 40 years ago to provide a comfortable existence to around what totals maybe one-third of a generation (in terms of population statistics, IN REGARDS TO THAT SPECIFIC NATION).your "argument", if one might be able to ponder the possibility of your statement qualifying the prerequisites of the term "argument", assumes that modern quality of life additions supercedes the fact that peasants were fed better than homeless crack addicts in the monarchal/patriarchal systems our respective societies have experienced over the span of human history.life was, legitimately, unironically, better back then.
>>42361829Prove Satan is a real deity. What you can do and verify for yourself is that Satan is actually Saturn.
>>42365494>life was, legitimately, unironically, better back then.Nah.
>>42365569this is how democracy, and the west, dies.debate, true exchange of dialogue, intended not only as opening arguments but as opinion of facts, boiled down to a subhuman, below room temp iq response, "nah".our countries will continue to suffer, with each subsequent generation becoming more and more incapable of thought driven leading of anything, let alone an entire nation, until we live in the same future you so desperately believe will never happen.and it is, regardless of your feelings, thoughts, or beliefs, because you are incapable of proving anyone wrong, or anything, without reverting to literal dialetic behaviour based off of current zeitgeist driven terminology.
>>42361829That image is a lie, the countryside had a small class of relatively wealthy landowners, who would offer employment to almost everyone else.
>>42365588>you are incapable of proving anyone wrong, or anything, without reverting to literal dialectic behavior based off of current zeitgeist driven terminologyProjecting much?lolI don't see much "illumination" to gain from debating someone who really believes we are in worse living standards today than a century ago (or half a century). I have medical, communication, housing, transportation and educational technology today that allows me to have and advantage of centuries ahead from a person living even decades ago. And the educational technology could be the one that I appreciate the most. Do you think that you would have had (even) the right to exhibit yourself like this pompous, fancy and crafty "wordsmith" a century ago, if you weren't born into the gentry class or royalty? Today any no-life loser can have a proper education as long as he has the will to just learn. The whole system sustain disparity today, at different levels depending on the location. But today you expect, almost as a given, that any random person online would, at least, have the means to sustain the communication exchange parity no matter were continent he could be living on. That's fucking incredible. And a person that can't see that, to me it's like a crazy person talking to a ghost in a corner, I won't interrupt him, or lose my time with him lol.
>>42365727you will never own a home.you will never own land.you will never live in a country that provides security for the rights they afford you.you will continue to value materialistic commodities over living arrangements and tout scientfic advancement as a reason why homeless people should be ignored today when they were at the least fed back then.you missed the point, you cant understand anything other than your own personal living arrangements, and you will never be as self-relient as people used to be. you cant even comprehend how much better things could be.
>>42361829>Germany ca. 1890>PeasantThis is what happens when you don't know history and believe that everyone in the past was a peasant with no understanding of time or history.Now because explaining that is too complicated, let's assume that this is a real "peasant's house", what it'd actually be is a peasants house. Yes it's big but it'd not be owned by one man but by a bunch of different families living together that built it together. They'd have their own bedroom, maybe even two if they're lucky and maybe a work station so that they can continue working in the rain and winter but that's not even guaranteed.Making big homes wasn't something the common man did, the land they did have was better suited to farming so that they could feed themselves and sell for a profit that could be used for nice things, more tools and so on.This attachment to home ownership is by design. A house takes up far less land than the land needed to feed a single family, using medieval techniques it's around 100 acres for a family. Governments and corporations want you fighting over the house because they own all the actual land, even if you buy a house you still rely on food from their land and the land the house comes with will never be enough to live from.And a good way to make that happen is pretend that our ancestors had nice houses, not land as far as the eye can see.
The world ended in 2012.
>>42365314No, peasants homes smell pleasantly of wood. You'd shit and piss in an outhouse. In current year people die of cancer and heart disease young anyway. Rats and mice mostly hang out in an attic and listening to them putter about up there when you're cozy in your bed is comfy. I spent summers and sometimes winter in a peasant house, I struggle in modern homes because at best there's no smell and my entire olfactory sense has nothing to do. Aroma oils/$1000 perfumes don't replicate summer wind blowing in garden aromas into an old wooden house.
>>42365296No, it's not. People in my country lived the same way they have lived since medieval times with very little change up until two generations ago. I know what OP's pic is talking about FROM EXPERIENCE.Sure, life was more difficult in some respects, but I assure you it the tradeoff is not worth it.
It goes back and forth>teeter totter>see saw
>>42365364My grandfather's grandfather was part of the serf way of life>only tilled what they were allowed to and paid a tax to the local lord just to existThis is wrong. They belonged to the lord along their land and their house (this was inherited, and they could not be kicked out), but were allowed to do whatever they wanted with it as long as they were able to pay a part of the harvest to the lord. Proportionally, they paid MUCH less than we do now in taxes, and had a LOT more.A member of my family wrote a book documenting what the transition into "modernity" looked like. They were basically given the option to "buy their freedom" and become proprietors of their house and land. Lords rushed to do this because they saw how the times were changing as industrialization and what would become capitalism creeped in. These peasants had no idea they were being sold a poisoned dream, but they didn't have a choice anyway. They did what generations before them dreamed the could some day do.But it's not like we could've ended any other way.
