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Abrahamic Slaves of the Filthy Desert Demon Yaweh Cope Eternally. Also to say that Western Civilization is founded on Christianity is a complete lie.
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Gnosticism is the pinnacle abrahamic cope
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>>42364161
>>42364205
All organized religion is cope and only useful as in to preserve a traditional society. What works for me is to work on your inner state and sometime ask the gods/universe etc. for favours but I strongly discourage any type of worship.
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>>42364161
Gnosticism was born out of Jesus' life.
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>>42364161

Gnosticism is just Kabbalism wrapped around the new testament. More Jewish bullshit.
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>>42364263
Some of us care about truth and reality rather than what is useful for grooming alienated zoomers to vote for retarded right-wing politicians.

Process-relationalism is the metaphysical pattern that corresponds to reality.
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>>42364161
Based. But it's not an ideology, it's a worldview, a spiritual disposition. Weltanschauung.
>>42364316
Completely opposite. Kabbala is in fact jewish plagiarism of Hermeticism and Gnosticism.
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>>42364316
No, Kabbalism didn't exist back then. It is rather Neoplatonism wrapped in the NT. Remember it is anti-YHWH and anti-his chosen, so its alright in that regard. I don't find anything wrong with it. It's just not for me and I don't think any society should adopt it because of how anti-worldly and pacifisitic it can be.
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>>42364328
>Some of us care about truth and reality rather than what is useful for grooming alienated zoomers to vote for retarded right-wing politicians
The way I see it is that in our current 3d human existence we aren't made to comprehend the entire truth anyway. The best thing to do imo is to adopt whatever spriritual frameworks works practically and otherwise just try to built a healthy high-trust society (on a societal scale) only preserving tradition so much as in not being a complete rootless cosmopolitan shithole.
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>>42364352
I want the full truth and I don't care if it hurts or annihilates me. There's no "we", I won't be dragged down by drones who can't handle it.
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>>42364366
Which is admirable, and I like to astral project to learn more parts of the truth. But I mean its so fucking complex we literally can't. I don't mean we would hurt ourselves or can't handle it, it just doesn't make sense to a human mind and we can only partly get a highly distilled bastardized version of it. Which is best done through astral projecting yourself.
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>>42364352
The most constant and deepest tradition is creativity. Horizon after horizon the universe has transcended what was previously possible and produced novel complexity. Th very early universe was too hot and dense for even atoms to exist; interactions were of the simplest kind. When the universe expanded and cooled enough for atoms to form, the possibility of stars and galaxies forming emerged. At first only hydrogen, helium, and traces of lithium existed. The first generations of stars forged the heavier elements, which made the formation of rocky planets such as Earth possible, which made the emergence of life possible, which made the emergence of consciousness and sapience possible.

Two interrelated trends are at work here: an increase in complexity (meaning the significance of elements to each other) and the production of novelty. The production of novelty is limited to trivial forms without a bedrock of complex togetherness to deviate from. Difference and togetherness are not opposites; they are mutually fertilizing.

Human creativity is an extension of the creativity of the cosmos. Every impulse to explore, learn, create, discover, connect and love comes from the deepest nature of existence. Every act of creativity adds to the unfolding creative process of reality.

A civilization that honors this would honor education and learning as a sacred spiritual pursuit, not merely as a means to the end of getting a job, or even for it being essential for a democratic society.

A high trust society requires trust that the universe isn't a bad place; a sense of connection and being at home with the universe.
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>>42364205
>>42364316
Every thread on this subject you retards say this. If you even bothered to do bare minimum surface level research you would know that this is 100% wrong and backwards. So the only conclusion is you are purposely spreading disinformation.
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>>42364338
Neoplatonism began in the 3rd century. Gnosticism was fully developed in the 2nd century at the latest. I swear if there are any terminally online anons they might be able to recognize me at this point for how often I've corrected this.
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>>42365618
And Platonism come from 4th century BC of which NeoPlatonism is just an extension or Refinement of specific parts. The point is that to call Gnosticism jewish is a tactic people here use to associate it solely with Jewdo-xtianity instead of the wider range of ideas and philosophy on which it is obviously based.
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>>42364205
I am more inclined to believe gnosticism or some variation of it than I am to take the popular Judeo-Christian canon at its face value in its entirety.
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Having just read the Corpus Hermeticum, which is more of a syncretism of Greek theism and early Judeo-Christian belief: hermeticism, or gnosticism?
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>>42365647
>of which NeoPlatonism is just an extension or Refinement of specific parts
My understanding is that it's more of a syncretism of lots of different ideas with different origins rather than a simple refinement of Plato, which is why there's a whole different word for it, as with Middle Platonism before it. And I don't disagree that Gnosticism is also based on a lot more than Judaism. I just think getting the timeline correct is important because it might be possible that Neoplatonism is more of a de-Christianized Gnosticism instead of Gnosticism being a Christianized Neoplatonism.
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>>42365718
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism_and_Neoplatonism
>Alexander J. Mazur argues that many neoplatonic concepts and ideas are ultimately derived from Sethian Gnosticism during the third century in Lower Egypt, and that Plotinus, the founder of neoplatonism, himself may have been a Gnostic before nominally distancing himself from the movement.
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gnosticism isn't even a thing
its just a buzzword retards throw at you because they can't think without fixed defined boxes
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>>42364161
What does the sonnenrad have to do with gnosticism?
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>>42364161
I used to be impressed by gnosticism too, but the more I read and thought about it, the more I learned that it too is a Jewish religion. It emerged from people like Simon Magus (Jew) and later blended with Christianity (Jew). It seems to me like it's Jews appropriating Buddhist concepts in a Hellenstic framework in order to explain why 1st century BC Judaism was kind of fucked. Just get right to the source and study Buddhism (especially early Pure Land schools which originated from de-Judaized gnosticism).
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>>42366476
I hate to admit it (because it makes some sense from the outside), this anon is right. It’s still rooted in sandpeople nonsense
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The only true religion is internal alchemy of which all religions stem.

The various schools, philosophies, religions, sects etc are all nothing more than theatre dreamt up by the mind to facilitate the internal alchemy process. To give the inner process an outer counterpart.

A tangible show for the senses to make the unknowable known through the lens of earthly life.

To seek truth outside only while ignoring the inner, You will find nothing but theatrics. To seek out a philosophy, a religion, a school of thought and to attach yourself to this and convince yourself it is truth you will die with it. When the theatre ends so will you unless you find inner truth from which it first sprang forth only then will you survive.
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>>42366476
>>42366506
>religion, Jew :|
>religion, Jeet :0
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>>42366623
>saar he was brahmin therefore aryan saar
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>>42366536
If you get rid of the religious bullshit, the idea of humans being an alien experiment and kept here as cattle doesn't differ too much from the idea of a demiurge feeding on human suffering. If you read the bible, Yaweh hates humans and his bloodlust is only saciated when they die on his name and sacrifice animals and foreskins. That is why Solomon gave up on the demon dog YHWH and pursued gnosis.
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>>42364161
Pauline Christanity was a mistake, convince me otherwise. It diluted the actual teachings of Christ, and made them exoteric for the normans, I think.

Otherwise, all three Abrahamic religions are plagiarisms (of one another and of Canaanite beliefs).
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>>42366506
I think you may be on to something there, anon. I've started to think recently that Gnosticism and Buddhism (Theravada, in particular) seem to have significant overlaps I haven't expected.
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>>42366569
Based
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>>42366650
He persued whores mostly, lets not kid ourselves
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>>42364263
mazel tov
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>>42365647
neoplatonists despised the gnostics
platonism is the succesor of pythagoreanism and the greek mystery traditions
the gnostics were a jewish sect which only stole from platonism but never superseded its jewish roots. while platonism is life affirming gnosticism is a death cult like abrahamism
>>42365733
>name is neo*platonism*
>it must be derived from gnosticism, instead of the source that gnosticism steal from, platonism
>do gnostards reall
lol roflmao
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>>42364161
gnosticism is another layer of Jewish manipulation
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>>42366742
>actually this swarthy Italoid said he was aryan therefore he was a blond-haired blue-eyed son of Yakub
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The OP statement is so utterly backwards retarded he could never hope in a thousand years to know what actual gnosticism entails.
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>>42366863
>thinks "being alive" is something good
NGMI

You are a corpse, a rotting ugly corpse, this life of yours, it is devoid of grace, not even a botfly it .deserves.
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>>42366301
All words are just buzzwords faggot
>>42367045
Lots of cope and seethe.
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>>42366569
Thats basically what I am defining as Gnosticism. I completely forgot all intents and purposes you can pretty much ignore the Nag Hammadi texts and most “Gnostic” scriptures. Ofc this causes much confusion for retards who need to cling to labels as is seen here in this thread. But to me Gnosticism has always meant the Ultimate truth behind all philosophy religion and science, behind matter and creation itself and even beyond that. What a small group of well poisoning chosenites did thousands of years ago doesnt define it.
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>>42369612
Completely forgo/for all intents and purposes *
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>>42369612
> you can pretty much ignore the Nag Hammadi texts and most “Gnostic” scriptures
You will lose valuable information.
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https://newkabbalah.com/philosophical-perspectives/kabbalah-and-platonism/
Everything claimed to be thought of by Jews throughout the entirety of history has been stolen and corrupted. Until you realize this you will always be confused like anons in this thread
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>>42364161
Its you that is coping he will win
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>>42364161
But islam and allah are not a lie and there probably is no sophia, and God doesnt have a mother probably either
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>>42369852
Lol ok ranjeet
>>42369828
Not gonna
Worship your jewish space zombie
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>>42369871
I would have prefered to have been called ahmad but now im just mad instead of ahmad
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Real ones realize that the world is just a playground for the Solar Plexus Clown Gliders.
We're little figures on a board for the jesters to play with
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