>Eben Alexander (Neurosurgeon, Proof of Heaven)Alexander spent a week in a deep coma from severe bacterial meningitis, with his neocortex (the part of the brain responsible for higher thinking) essentially offline. He described traveling through increasingly refined realms, starting from a primitive "Earthworm’s Eye View," moving through a vibrant "Gateway Valley" with angelic beings, music, and beauty, and into the "Core," an infinite loving source of all existence. He emphasizes that the experience felt hyper real, far more real than ordinary waking life, which seemed dream like by comparison. Consciousness existed independently of the brain, and the realms felt responsive to awareness. His story is particularly compelling because of his medical background and the fact that his brain should not have supported such vivid, structured cognition.
>>42364661>part two>Anita Moorjani (Dying to Be Me)In 2006, Moorjani fell into a coma from terminal cancer. During her NDE, she experienced an expanded state of consciousness where she could perceive events in the physical world (veridical elements) while in a realm of profound unconditional love and clarity. She felt she had a clear choice to return to her body or stay, and she was encouraged to come back to live fearlessly. Her experience highlighted how our beliefs and fears shape our reality, and that the afterlife (or the state beyond) is more about awareness and love than fixed structures. After returning, her cancer healed rapidly in a medically documented way. She often describes the shift in perception as moving from a limited "dream" of life to a much broader, lucid understanding.
>>42364661>>42364665>part three>Betty Eadie (Embraced by the Light)In 1973, Eadie had a detailed NDE during surgery complications. She described leaving her body, entering beautiful spirit realms, meeting Jesus and other beings, and undergoing a life review. Key elements include pre birth planning (choosing aspects of her life for growth), free will, and the sense that souls have agency in their journeys. She initially resisted returning but agreed after understanding her mission. The afterlife felt like a place of learning, love, and creative potential, with less rigid punishment and more emphasis on growth through choices. Her account is one of the more detailed and influential popular NDEs.
>>42364661>>42364665>>42364668>part four: finaleOther relevant patterns from NDE research:Many experiencers (not just these famous ones) report the afterlife as a thought responsive, lucid dream like environment where intentions, emotions, and awareness shape the scenery, meetings with beings, and even the decision to return. Researchers like Dr. Jeffrey Long and others have cataloged thousands of cases where people describe heightened lucidity, malleable realities, and a sense of continued choice beyond death. Post NDE, many report increased lucid dreaming in waking life, as if the experience opened a door to more fluid consciousness.
OK, now post the millions of reports of negative experiences that don't survive the curation process for these books and monetized YouTube channels. Post the many stories of NDE experiences who are dragged back against their will, and even after trying to kill themselves, they are unable to go end their life because of freak coincidences or even lost time and seemingly altered reality overnight.Or just explain them away to avoid altering your preconceived views.
Ultraterrestrials can be real assholes. They blackpill us just to feed off our despair.>An NDE of the “void” is an ontological encounter with a perceived vast emptiness, often a devastating scenario of aloneness, isolation, sometimes annihilation. A woman in childbirth found herself abruptly flying over the hospital and into deep, empty space. A group of circular entities informed her she never existed, that she had been allowed to imagine her life but it was a joke; she was not real. She argued with facts about her life and descriptions of Earth. “No,” they said, “none of that had ever been real; this is all there was.” She was left alone in space.If you encounter ideas such as these, beware. You're being messed with. And please try not to spread them, just spread the awareness that they do this.
Another woman in childbirth felt herself floating on water, but at a certain point, “It was no longer a peaceful feeling; it had become pure hell. I had become a light out in the heavens, and I was screaming, but no sound was going forth. It was worse than any nightmare. I was spinning around, and I realized that this was eternity; this was what forever was going to be…. I felt the aloneness, the emptiness of space, the vastness of the universe, except for me, a mere ball of light, screaming.”
A woman who hemorrhaged from a ruptured Fallopian tube reported an NDE involving “horrific beings with gray gelatinous appendages grasping and clawing at me. The sounds of their guttural moaning and the indescribable stench still remain 41 years later. There was no benign Being of Light, no life video, nothing beautiful or pleasant.”
>>42367242these were all written by demons
Fear may remain a powerful influence, but a strict theology may offer a way out. The atheistic professor above who experienced being maliciously pinched, then torn apart by malevolent beings left his university and attended seminary.3 Others also reported newfound devotion, “I’ve stopped drugs, moved back to Florida, and now I’m in Bible college. I used to have a casual attitude toward death, but now I actually fear it more. So yes, it was a warning. I was permitted another chance to change my behavior on earth…. I’ve taken my fear of death and given it to the scriptures.”4, p. 43 Since then, I have dedicated my life to the most high God Jehovah, and spend 60 hours a month speaking and teaching about the Creator of Heaven and earth and all living creatures. I’m not worried now about when I die, because now I know that God has promised us something far more.”>>42367324If someone validates your viewpoint, they are valid, but if they contradict what you believe to be true, they're not even human. Nice.
The experiences are not unlike what people have on psychedelics. And just as people fall hook and sinker for the experience wholesale without critically examining it, they will fall for the NDE experience:Other experiencers have difficulty comprehending or integrating terrifying NDEs. These people, years later, still struggle with the existential implications of the NDE, “I had an experience which has remained with me for 29 years…. It has left a horror in my mind and I have never spoken about it until now.” And, “After all these years, the nightmare remains vivid in my mind.” “For some reason, [31 years later] all the memories are back and vivid…. It’s like living it all over again, and I don’t want to. I thought I had it all resolved and in its place, but I’m having a really bad time trying to put it away this time.
Also, “For the next 50 years, I would try to repress the memory of the black, threatening experience, because it felt so real it continued to be frightening, no matter how old I got.” And, “I’ve been married for 33 years and I do not even discuss the experience with my husband…. Yet it is as clear to me today as it was when it happened.” Additionally, “I just buried the whole thing as deeply as possible, got very busy in civic affairs, politics…. It seems pretty clear to me now, though the specifics aren’t in place, that there’s some core issue that still needs dealing with.””I see this vision as flashbacks constantly. I cannot get this out of my head…. I still see it in my mind from my own eyes. It has been two years, yet I have never talked about it. My husband does not even know…. I want to put this behind me, but am unable.”
“I was filled with a sense of absolute terror and of being past the help of anyone, even God.”“I looked around me. Consciously searching for … God or some other angelic creature, but I was alone.”“I expected the Lord to be there, but He wasn’t… I called on God and He wasn’t there. That’s what scared me.”4, p. 53Overwhelmingly, their questions include some variant of “What did I do to deserve this?” or “What are the rules, if the rules I lived by don’t work?” Not for a long time, if ever, do they lose their fear of death.” The man above attacked by a hitchhiker still struggled with the aftermath, “I’ve pondered if I was in that hell, will I go back on my death? Was I sent there for something perhaps I’ll do in the future, or something I did in the past? … I don’t believe in a hell, but it was such a strong experience, there is always that underlying uncertainty and trouble and fear.”
I find it more interesting how painfully small the amount of confirmed cases of this are. Its just like the kids that say they were reincarnated its only never more then 10,000 at absolute best.Who cares what they saw or said why do so few actually see it? I actually read that book on reincarnation stuff and they found barely any real connection on what leads to it and I'm sure NDE stuff is the same. Why does so low of the population see it?
>>42367242> A man who was attacked by a hitchhiker felt himself rise cut of his body: "I suddenly was surounded by total blackness, foaring in nothing but black space, with no up, no down, left, or right… What seemed like an etemity went by. I fully lived it in this misery. I was only allowed to think and reffect."On the 7th day it took a rest - Genesis 2:2Typical atheist end game, congratulation you have logout in nothingness.
>>42364661Odd I knew an eben and he was very wise despite being a shopkeeper who sold small good kits and natural herbs(We used to visit him to get our drying mesh/smoking coils for our vegetables/herbs).
>>42367242>>42367302>>42367306>>42367314>>42367341>>42367345>>42367348>>42367352>>42367357The truth of NDE’s is that it’s subjective, most of these negative experiences seem like people who didn’t understand what was happening. “A ball of light floating in the heavens”? Get real, theres nothing terrifying about Infact the implications!Pure “void” of white and black? Pure potential! Iirc there are other survivors whom spoke of being able to create within said void, if your scared and have guilt, yeah it’s gonna be negative because it’ subjective like the town of “Silent Hill” from “Silent Hill 2”. It’s a lot like dreaming, people keep saying reality is the “dream” but I’d argue what comes after is the “dream” p, ancient cultures older than the abrahamic beliefs and some newer discuss this.>your trying to shut me down but I’m only going to bite you harder.
>>42364661>Consciousness existed independently of the brainAnd yet he comms this with his brain. Get a grip.
>>42364661Based
>>42370808Yes telephone calls don’t exist in the phone either dummy
>>42364661>(the part of the brain responsible for higher thinking) essentially offlineGiven that man is the rational animal, these experiences were clearly spiritual illusions.
>>42364661Sounds like a pretty cool hallucination to me. It's a pity he thinks it was real, though.
I always like this anons posts because I was also born in 1997
>>42367399Retarded crossnigger.
>>42371535Reincarnation doesn't exist though, the guy in your screencap was full of shit.
