Why did she block the request for images of the wing so they could check if there were damages?It doesnt make any sense to block that request. So why did she do it?
>>42369233Malevolent incompetence.
>>42369258That concept is surprisingly difficult to understand
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>>42369233houston already knew they were dead men walking at that point.The damage occurred during launch.And either it miraculously held on reentry and they got back fine, or they would die a horrible fiery death. there was nothing that could be done about it.So might as well pretend like nothing was wrong and refuse anyone the ability to know if the cat in the box was alive or dead so they couldn't freak out if it was, and would go about their scheduled 2 week mission normally.It's a callous, calculated decision. But a logical one.
>>42369311Horseshit. There are enough propellerheads in nasa to come up with some solution or at least a try.
>>42369311not to mention blame game.there wasn't anything to do in the situation to FIX it, but depending on the situation there damn well would have been things that were supposed to have been done to PREVENT it, and whose department it was would have been pretty obvious.keeping everybody on the ground focused on the mission, instead of scrambling to cover their ass while one of the astronauts yells something over the radio like "FUCK YOU JACKSON SCHMITTY YOU COCKSUCKER YOU'VE KILLED US ALL, I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO"... it just makes sense.
>>42369371>there wasn't anything to do in the situation to FIX itYou dont know that
>>42369380what do you think could have been done? have you looked into all the info on what happened?
>>42369342They fuck are they going to do, go on an EVA and duct tape some mylar over it?a 10 inch hole in the leading edge of the wing was not fixable in orbit. even if they had something that could structurally take the same extreme forces as the reinforced carbon fiber it wouldn't also be able to take the same kind of friction as the missing heat shielding. It comes screaming in at a blistering Mach 25. 35 minutes into re-entry that wing was literally molten slag dripping off the side.if they had seen the hole they would have known they had a better shot skydiving to earth in just their suits like a halo spartan because at least then their terminal velocity would have only been 120 mph. Still nearly double what it would take for them to not die on impact, even if they fell into the ocean. But who knows, maybe repurposing the drag chutes could have left 3 of the 7 with only irrecoverable horrific mangling before they drowned to death.
>>42369233Bitches are unable to think. Every aspect of their judgement is a reflection of feelings. They feel their value should be considered equal but they have no concept of equal evaluation by merit of aptitude and ability.She obviously felt she was right and now she feels you are wrong to question her about it. No thoughts involved. Only feelings.Those men who are pretending to be women are still able to think like a man. They will never be what they are attempting to portray.Also, they had, onboard, a caulkgun type device that was developed specifically for this situation to patch damaged heat tiles while in orbit.
>>42369522Yep. Essentially they would have to stop everything they were doing and concentrate on this problem. Put the white shirts on nasa to come up with something but esentially there could have a way to prevent plasma from entering the inside of the wing long enough to make it. The problem is that the plasma going in melted the wing's inner structure, but if some patch could have been made the vehicle may have been sturdy enough to survive the reentry. Specially if the damage was something like a crack.She didnt even wanted to look at it. Crazy.
>>42369532actually, terminal velocity in a suit would be faster. roughly same surface area but an extra 300lb of load.their best shot was bare naked with a blanket tied to their wrists and ankles as a makeshift wingsuit.
>>42369587so no, not really. you've basically just restated the same thing as above just with more words.
>>42369532Nobody knows what the extent of the damage was. It could have been small enough to try patch. Try to prevent plasma from getting into the wing long enough to barely make it.
>>42369587>but if some patch could have been made the vehicle may have been sturdy enough to survive the reentry.OUT OF WHAT?AND WHERE WOULD THEY FIND SOME?
>>42369615>Nobody knows what the extent of the damage wasNo, YOU don't know because you're bad at research and are high on copium desperately wanting this to have been fixable.Post-investigation they knew exactly what fell off, how big it was, how heavy it was, how fast it was falling, and of course the exact composition of what it hit.I don't know if you know this, but them NASA eggheads are pretty good at high school physics, especially ballistics. I think we can trust their damage estimates.
The people responsible apparently have managed to prevent you from being informed that they had a patch material developed and onboard. They were short on time with the next windowapproaching so they rushed it without making time to check on the tiles. They had developed the systems for rotating the ship to view the tiles. They had everything that was needed already developed.. and then rushed to land on schedule instead of using it. You have to be listening to the insiders to know this. They kept the congressional hearings away from the public
>>42369647They had onboard material and tools to fix the tiles if necessary. I know is not the same as the carbon carbon edge of the wing but remember that nobody knows how big the damage was. Maybe it was small and potentially fixable but deadly. The damage to the wing during reentry could have been delayed or mitigated just enough for the fucking thing to slow and cool off.
>>42369685Bullshit. During post investigation they tried to recreate the impact and it only made a hole after many attempts. It made only a 3 inch crack in one of them. The pieces that could show the exact damage were never recovered.
>>42369727it's most likely they took the damage in a low air resistance area.
>>42369342This>>42369522They’re right. There’s always a possible fix if they throw enough resources at an issue
After the loss of Columbia NASA investigated possible rescue or repair scenarios. One was to repair the wing using tiles from elsewhere on the orbiter, but it would require reshaping them, this was determined to be unlikely to succeed. A more reasonable scenario would be to extend Columbia's time in orbit to 30 days, the maximum that would allow for the air to remain breathable, euthanizing animals and powering down nonessential systems. NASA could then expedite the launch of Atlantis, skipping certain tests, launch it with a minimal crew, and perform EVAs to rescue the astronauts and return them to Earth. Columbia would then be deorbited remotely. So there was a way to rescue them if the damage had been assessed.I think the requests for imaging were denied because of bureaucracy and complacency. Decision makers relied on the knowledge of previous impacts, while engineers did not have the ability to make themselves heard in a meaningful way.
>>42371650>NASA could then expedite the launch of Atlantis, skipping certain tests, launch it with a minimal crew,this sounds the most reasonable option, but it may have been that the risks associated were judged too great. these days theres a good chance that a crew dragon etc could be made available for the rescue, or perhaps the ISS could come into play.one thing i dont believe is that anyone at nasa deliberately avoided trying to save the crew. perhaps some bad decisions were made, i dont know, but if theres one thing nobody wants its to lose astronauts and vehicles.
>>42369532If the shuttle wasn't designed for this 1 exclusive method of re-entering exactly the way they all have to, they could've adapted with shallower angles and even made an emergency landing in the ocean if they had to.That vehicle looked avionic but it was as aerodynamic as a fucking brick and wasn't airworthy as a normal aeroplane.Its wings and control surfaces allowed for a controlled crash, nothing more.That was the designers' fault. "As long as it can follow procedure, it'll work". That simply doesn't fly in the real world.
