Why are opioids particularly so fucking hard to get off? Only 20 and I can't stop thinking about Kratom, 7OH, tianeptine, etc. I know this isn't paranormal but it literally feels like the drugs opened a door I can't close, nothing feels good anymore, life is utterly pointless without opioids.
>>42379234i'll give you a tab if you suck my cock.
>>42379264Gonna need a microscope to see your dick first faggot
Idk but I’ll get back to you once I finally taper off this last 2mg of suboxone I’m stuck on. Seriously though, it doesn’t get easier OP. Just stick to…anything else honestly.
>>42379234If you get addicted to anything it’s because the drugs cover a pain you haven’t addressed or many times don’t know exists. I would suggest breaks. Try experimenting with non addictive substances like psychedelics and spreading out kratom to no more than once a week>>42379292Sub is a bitch. 1700 mg of ibogaine HCL helped me get off opiates years ago. Rehab is great if you can afford it and have a nice rehab facility It was like vacation with AA meetings and counseling sessions
>>42379234I feel you. First time I tried opioids it felt like I had found the missing puzzle piece so to speak. Like this is how you're supposed to feel. I've been chasing that feeling ever since.
>>42379668Smoke DMT. Only thing I’ve tried with a better feeling than shooting oxy and adderall was smoking DMT
>>42379234>calms your nervous system making you feel like nice and euphoric in the moment minimising mental and physical pain>doesn't give you hangovers or near the nausea that alcohol doesOf course they're going to be addictive
Hi, I am unsure how to post on here. I am sorry!Anyways, I just wanted to come and say it does get better. Coming to terms with everything inside me from which I was running was painful, but it was necessary. Like a wound, it will scar, but it will heal.Aerobic exercise helped me replenish all the burned out feel-good chemicals in my brain.I know this is probably little consolation in the moment. It is hell to go through. Just know that I am, at the very least, proud of you.
>>42379234lmao if you think opioids are good try crackthat first hit has ruined millions of livesI still think about how good it was, even use it a few times a year just to experience it againBut I quickly realize I'm trying to chase the dragon and spending a lot of money doing so, only the first few hits are worth it so I only spend about 20$ a few times a year on it.
>>42379234>Why are opioids particularly so fucking hard to get off?Because they make you feel good and your body has adapted to taking it regularly. Ask yourself why you started taking them, and why you want to stop. The rest is a combination of willpower and grace.
You know in kratom these days they took the most addictive compounds in it and biologically changed it by isolating is an amplifying it within the powder so its way stronger than it used to be and gets you higher. Dont even get me started on 7 OH which is 7x stronger than morphine on your receptors and also theres tianapine which is also hella addictive. You were tricked into thinking they are light versions of illicit opiods when its not. Its the same addictive stuff. Youre literally just taking another form of an opiod.
>>42379863I guess im lucky cause crack mostly just makes me vomit and feel jittery with not much upside. I did tale a really big hit recently and figured out what people mean when they say “getting your bell rung”. I started with Kratom when on probation in my early 20s, eventually got on heroin, then poppy seed tea, then fentanyl and now im stuck on methadone. You are going down a bad road Op. You know what you need to do. Its just a matter of finding the strength of will to do it and not letting negative self talk convince you that its not worth doing since life is shit anyway so you might as well stay down in that hole. https://youtu.be/f8hT3oDDf6c
>>42379863Crack is nowhere near as addictive as hard opiates like heroinI’ve tried both and crack is weak by comparison the truth is low quality uppers like crack should be used before downers like opioids, weed, or benzodiazepines because the crack comedown is bad mentally but opioids cover it up >>42380621Yeah drugs are bad we get it
>>42381445It's easy to find good opiates.I've done every drug basically besides hallucinogenicsOpiates are fun if you find the correct dosage to ride the waves.But a good hit of hard? I mean if you got high quality shit? Your head will spin, you will get pure euphoria, you will start sweating.The good stuff like that is rare to come by, the dealers usually keep it for key people and new users to get them hooked then they feed them cut shit/baking soda garbage
>>42381797Even good crack is just weaker coke. Opiates like fentanyl will make your whole body feel good. The addictive part of crack is fast onset and duration of smoking it. Taking coke and shooting makes crack look retarded. Combining coke and opiates(speedball) is the best of both worlds. But smoking a drug never compares to injecting themQuitting crack sucks but quitting opioids feels like you’re gonna die
>>42381807>Even good crack is just weaker cokeYou have never smoked crack, please stop larping, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>42379234I spend so much money on gummies, i'm a fool.
>>42379234Start taking breaks. Detox now before it gets too hard. I refuse to do kratom extracts. Stick to the whole leaf and it’s not as bad
>>42383277thats literally how crack is made you fucking retardyou have to make coke weaker by weight with baking soda to create crackyou black people deserve to be called dumb
>>42386144the route of administration makes the high more powerful but shorter lasting you stupid nigger. thats why drugs get you the highest when you slam them or stick them in your asshole
>>42379234What's a kratim high feel like? >>42380621I'm actually somewhat thankful when kratom was taking off I was curious, and everyone was saying how great it was and non addictive, my local shop owner refused to sell it to me. He asked if I was coping a with an opioid addiction I said no and he just shut it down and said he would never sell it to me.
>>42379234because they make your body feel like shit alongside being deprived of any good endorphins or natural chemicals like dopamine. your quite literally sick from the dope. your blood pressure is higher, your hearts running weird, your actually feeling muscle soreness and the pain of living again. your gonna have to become re-adjusted/numb to it again alongside getting passed the 2-4 week phase of sickness and then work on your finding other ways to produce more good body chemicals.
>>42386192if you take regular leaf it can be kinda stimulating at first. extracts like 7-OH and psuedo are really close to an oxy high. they are like opiates with a faster heart-rate and more hypertension.
>>42386185>the route of administration makes the high more powerfulNo it makes the high more immediate with a shorter peak that doesn’t change the fact that crack is watered down coke you fucking crackhead. You black people are nasty as fuckWhy do you black people love crack so much? Huh Tyrone?
>>42383277>first time I see a African person post a self portrait on 4chan>he’s talking about how much he loves crack
>>42379234discordgg/7kMhrksaGT
Relatively few drugs cause physiological dependency, but opiates are one. If you're a habitual user please be very careful if you're getting clean. Getting somebody to help you and keep an eye on you is a good idea. People die from opiate withdrawals all the time. Ditto if you're a heavy drinker getting sober.
