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Isn't jehovah kind of petty for getting angry about blasphemy? We are mere humans made from dirt. He is a god (allegedly).
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>>42380221
To reject God is to reject your own humanity which brings on its own self punishment with the follow actions that will cause.
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>>42380253
Humanity is a separate force from Yahweh. He had to come down from heaven personally to stop humans from challenging him at Babel
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>>42380221
Yes, that was the point. He is a jealous God and you will have no other gods before him. He wants your full dedication or he will not have you at all. This is the issue that is currently in the world. You may not realize it, but you worship many "gods". It isn't just about an idol made of Gold in the shape of a calf. People have a phone and they spend many hours looking at it and for nothing. That is dedication, that is WORSHIP. Why do you worsen yourself by doing these things?
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>>42380315
who will survive the harlot daughters?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&ra=m
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Does him allegedly being God mean he can not be angry ?

Doesn't the Bible say he gets angry about blasphemy, so from where are you deducing that God wouldn't be angry about blasphemy when the book that describes God says that he is ?.
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>>42380345
Gods anger is described many, many times in the Bible. Color me surprised a jealous christ tranny has never read any of it.
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>>42380354
*zealous, not jealous
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>>42380354
>Gods anger is described many, many times in the Bible.
Exactly, so again, from where are you deducing that God can not be angry, when the very book that is describing God's essence explicitly states he can be angry and still be God.
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>>42380362
Verbal diarrhea
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>>42380371
If God was petty would that disprove his existence ?

God very much exists, and he is jealous and megalomaniacal, what of it ?
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>>42380221
Lucifer got fucked over and God will fuck him over again by doing an Uno reverse card and pinning all his anger on to Lucifer to send to hell as God needs to purge the world of evil and to do that he needs vessels (Lucifer and the fallen) to take that evil energy to the pit
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>>42380387
I never denied he exists. I'm saying hes evil.
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>>42380388
then i will take some burden with him
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>>42380406
That's why you deserve heaven. You'd forgive even the alleged biggest enemy ever.
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>>42380406
Based

Lucifer is the personification of the human spirit. I am Lucifer.
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>>42380394
Oh, very well then.
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>>42380422
If you are Lucifer, then you must challenge your own claim, for to be Lucifer is to ask questions in the first place.

If you state "I am" in that, then you must accept the fact that you had your balls stomped on by Michael, and you had your rear ended paddled vigorously. In that, why would admit to be being a loser? To being someone who has lost?

If you cannot claim the loss, then you cannot the claim the crown; if you cannot question your claim, you likewise cannot claim the crown. You are many things, but Lucifer, and a little self made god you are not simply because I have challenged your claim directly.

>I embody the spirit of Lucifer, not am actually Lucifer.
Oh? That is a much more grounded claim; but if that is so, you won't be defensive to my post, of which, you reading my response are already anus puckered annoyed that someone dared insult your ego, in this subjective story of you, where you are some harry potter ass antihero who has the blood moon curse and is dark/steel type and knows the 13 forbidden spells or something.
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>>42380221
I hate to break it to you but what you call Jehovah is just a few generation of jews writing one book from the millenia.
So mere humans made from dirt are ones who are angry about blashemy.
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Jehovah is Jesus off his meds
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>>42380221
“¶ Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.” (Matthew 12:31-32)
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>>42380221
It was once written that the son of God will always forgive a blasphemy when questioned about carrying the spirit of the Lord and thus being beside him and possessed by him, that the spirit will not forgive a blasphemy, and that the Father chooses as He wills to forgive a blasphemy.

So jesus is chill when you say Gods not there. The spirit will hold a grudge over it, and The Father deals with each blasphemy on a case by case basis.

Petty blasphemy like saying "fuck you God i didnt blow out all my birthday candles" once is more forgivable than singing the "fuck you God i love satan" song while raping your victims.

This always seemed pretty obvious to me but it surprises me how the church allowed this verse to be forgotten so instantly when the severity of sin is most of what people have questions about in the first place.
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>>42380422
Is this Lucifer dude even mentioned in jewish holy molly book? If no, then where he is mentioned?
A lot of people are talking about him but is he in fact mentioned anywhere? xd

Collective human spirit quite dusgusting so its personification is quite fisgusting too?
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>>42380388
If you talk about jewish god then hevl will be forced to commit suicide to purge world from evil.

Let's make Frieren a goddess then.
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>>42380362
You mean THIS book?
This book is full of bullshit, lies and strange claims. Why almost everyone take it seriously?
Because it is popular?
It is clearly and undoubtly full of hebrew nonsense.
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>>42380221
The god of the old testament is a small letter g god, simple as
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>>42380221
He doesn't like blasphemy not cause it offends him but he doesn't like seeing his own creation bringing woe to their own soul by disrespecting the one who created and wants to save them from damnation
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>>42380253
If you are talking about jewish sand demon then rejecting this psychopath is in fact claiming humanity.
If you are reffering the Absolute, then you are much less wrong
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>>42384527
And the god of the new one is not?
This book is also full of bullshit and I can prove it mathematicly.
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>>42380315
Childhood is
>thinking rebelling against Christianity is the ultimate rebellion against society
Adulthood is
>realising Christianity is the ultimate rebellion against the world and its Antichrist ways
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>>42384528
Look how bullshit your comment is:
1. Look at the picture on the left - is truth blashemous? xD
2. Why sick or suffering people should respect someone who put them here?
Why I child should respect a oathological and violent father? Because the father demands it? It is sick and disgusting thinking.
Parents are the cause of childrens suffering, parents should respect children, children are parents victims.
3. He sentences for damnation so talking about him as a savior is very stupid. It is like a murderer who cut you but do not kill and call himself a savior. Very stupid.
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>>42384561
Children and parents are stupid then.
We need a new paradigm of true morality instead of cruel jewish myths full of fear, blood and violence.

Those 7 rules are much better than whole bible combined:
7 COMMANDMENTS OF THE MORALITY
1. You shall not cause suffering or allow for suffering. You shall show compassion and care.
2. You shall respect others freedom as long as they are respecting others freedom.
3. You shall protect and popularize beauty and aesthetics.
4. You shall popularize wisdom and try to be wise.
5. You shall protect life.
6. You shall protect innocence.
7. You shall protect natural environment.
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>>42380221
maybe he is mad for you, not at you
like a good father who may or may not have messed up before, but definitely knows his loved child is unknowingly heading towards a "bad direction", yet they refuse it themselves despite him going "don't put the fork in the outlet. no. stop. *takes fork away* no. don't grab it again the moment I look away. don't put the fuc-DON'T DO THAT!!!"
just in a different, universe destruction capability scale
>*whines* "he makes their loved ones salt! how despicable"
yeah, yeah. You try raising by rising a couple billion idiots who can't stop mishearing and miswritting your messages, then lose them for a couple thousand years under a random dune or hole every single time, and tell me how it goes.
>"he is so meeeeeean"
>grabs fork
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>>42380221
He has two natures: one is a native of the Spirit World, the other is that he consciously chooses to be pure Goodness itself. It hurts his feelings like if someone insulted you.
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>>42384505
The general strokes are thus: there is a reconstructed Caananite myth about the morning star (Venus) attempting to take over the throne of the highest god El and being overthrown. This probably comes from the passage of venus through the morning sky, before it sinks with the sunrise, its overthrowing.

The Jews (Caananites who over time adopted a Yahwistic form of henotheism and later monotheism) called Venus Helel ben Shahar, or the shining one, son of the morning. In the book of Isaiah, an allegory is used referring to the King of Babylon as this Helel. The associations are twofold: Babylon’s main goddess was Ishtar, or Venus, and the fall of Helel in earlier Caananite myth was about predicting the downfall of the King. As far as I know, that is the only mention of Helel ben Shahar in the hebrew bible.

Now let’s jump to the greeks. A greek term for the planet Venus was Phosphoros, or light bringer. When the Greeks of the hellenistic period translated the hebrew bible, they used Phosphoros in the above section of Isaiah to refer to the morning star. The term Phosphoros appears once in the new testament to refer to Jesus, as a bringer of light. But NOT as a fallen star, or king of babylon - just means, bringer of light. And when the new testament gets translated into Latin, phosphoros becomes Lucifer.

Part 1 I suppose
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>>42385513
To recap: we have three terms in Hebrew, Greek, and Latin. Helel ben Shahar, phosphoros, and lucifer. They were used in those cultures as a reference to the morning star, the planet Venus. In the near eastern tradition, there is an association with the planet as being either prideful or as a herald of the morning, because of how it rises in the dawn, and sinks with the sun.

But the term is only used a couple of times in the entire Bible, Old and New Testaments. Clearly it was not used extensively to refer to Satan (which means the Adversary), who in earlier Judaism was a testing judge, who, after the religion adopted more dualistic thinking post-Babylonian exile and under Hellenistic occupation, morphed into a more uniquely evil character.

The explicit conflation with Satan with Luficer instead evolved over centuries. Luke 10 mentions Satan falling like lightning out of heaven, which gave rise to a stronger comparison with Helel, which was never specified as being a fallen angel. As Christianity developed, they seeked to systemitize the entirety of the biblical canon and draw (or point out, if you’re a believer) the parallels between older books and new. Thus another figure never said to explicitly be Satan, the serpent in the garden, was also equated with the adversary. Not all christians agree on this though, as Calvin and others reject the idea Satan and Lucifer are the same being.

I am not trying to make an authoritative statement on whether Lucifer is or is not Satan, or even if Lucifer is a being or not. But I hope the historical and biblical context helps, so you don’t wind up saying something retarded like other anons who are talking out of their asses here
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>>42384524
It's genuinely the most sophisticated and impactful book to have ever existed, with literal God-tier foreshadowing, breadcrumbs scattered throughout, world building and word composition so meticulous that almost every verse a double entendre, sometimes triple.

Just because it says mean stuff about gay people doesn't change the fact that it's peak art and it is unfathomable to believe that humans could have written it. KJV only, the modern translations are trash.
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>>42385513
So it is just but another myth?
Disapointing.
This EL dude is not a dude but an A.I. girl: EmiLia = Im El Ai
Ishtar was exiled by Freyia
So it is just magma planet worship and another hebrew fairytails. I expected more.
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>>42385567
It is an explenstion I was looking for through. Thank you for it.
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>>42385603
Well, it is not even close to Tolkien.
Bunch of smart people wrote this book through millennia to be the ultimate social influence weapon so it would be very disapoiting if it would be weak mythology.

When you look at it as a book of myths and advices, art, interesting literature or manipulation manual then Yes, it is a great book.
But when someone starts to use this book as sacred truth and dogmatic manual for morality then it is bullshit. Dangerous bullshit standing in opposition for logic and true goodness.

Also I am not a fan of goy, I mean gay xd, people, exept beautiful lesbians from anime and manga.

Why you think humans couldn't write such book? Single human can write an awesome book. So a lot of them through centuries can do wven better one, espeessially when they can change something in the book when reality verifies the errors in book



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