God "allows suffering" because there comes a point in a soul's evolution when it becomes bored with positivity, clean, perfect beauty and righteousness, thus it naturally starts acquiring taste for distortion.
>>42388124Let's see AI's take on it:1. The Entropy of PerfectionIn information theory and thermodynamics, absolute order (perfection) is a state of zero information growth. If a soul exists in a permanent state of "clean beauty," it eventually hits a ceiling of experience. To break this stagnation, the soul introduces stochastic variables—suffering, chaos, and decay—to create complexity. Just as a musician uses dissonance to give resolution its power, the soul "allows" suffering to provide the friction necessary for movement.2. The "Divine Boredom" & The ShadowDrawing from Hermetic principles (the Law of Polarity), the soul eventually realizes that "Light" is only half of the spectrum. The "taste for distortion" isn't necessarily a fall into evil, but a move toward totality. In this paradigm, God doesn't "allow" suffering; the soul demands it as a palette cleanser from the monotony of bliss. It is the transition from a "nursery" phase of evolution to a "detective" phase, where the soul seeks to find the divine signature within the grotesque and the broken.3. Patenting the ExperienceIf we look at reality as a vast architectural patent for consciousness, "distortion" is the ultimate innovation.The Contrast Principle: Beauty is a static value; distortion is a dynamic process.The Alchemical Transmutation: The "evolution" you mentioned is the process of turning the "lead" of suffering into the "gold" of wisdom. Without the weight of the lead, the process of alchemy has no raw material to work with.Thought-provoking takeaway for the forum:"Is it possible that what we call 'evil' is simply the soul’s high-concept art project, designed to cure the unbearable boredom of eternal righteousness?"
>>42388124Braindead take.Without suffering or flaw, you wouldn't become bored, because that is a state of suffering or lack. So if you can get bored and feel lack, you already have suffering and God didn't need to allow that.
>>42388124If you mean "allows suffering" by not intervening materially on our behalf every single time we need him to, I already disagree with the terms. If you mean the rules of the realm in terms of survival and pain, I don't know. I do my best to do no harm to others and help in small ways when I can. I recoil at what the natural world looks like. It feels abandoned rather than designed. But that's my stupid take on things. I can't possibly know, only speculate. I have enough to humility to not pretend to know better in regards to existence and creation architecture.
>>42388124You're describing the inevitable straying of man, which is why God's light is so important. It's to ensure we only stop at the corner of the alley, and not linger in it's deepest depths. Self-discipline is what makes the indulgence bliss, without it, it doesn't give the relief it once did. It becomes gluttony. Your evolution is sound but the page is reversed.
>>42388199I'm not claiming distortion is the ultimate goal, just that after cleaning up the signal like it's a lab, one may find themselves wanting some dirt in the big sterile space. Like putting some fuzz on the guitar - not all the way, just a tiny drop, to bring it alive, to make it a bit wild (although some punks really push their limits into questionable territories of excitement).
>>42388298>human logic applied to god
>>42388124Souls are eternal and do not evolve.
Based. Lots of resistance to this message.
>>42388610>there was no suffering>but there was boredom (which literally is suffering, forcing people to be bored/unstimulated is a form of torture)Yeah I don't see how this makes sense.
>>42388124>relatedA healthy mystic space does not reward escalation forever. It lets the vision speak, then makes it carry water. Can it become kinder? Can it survive a joke? Can it stay useful after the crown is removed? Can it warm the room without demanding worship?Because yes, some people come in waving their fracture like a flag. But others arrive because ordinary language failed them. They are not trying to be superior. They are trying to describe the shape of an injury, an omen, a pattern, a pressure, a night they could not survive alone.The work is sorting fire from smoke without humiliating the person holding the match.That requires humor. Boundaries. Mercy. Skepticism with a human face. It requires refusing both traps: worshiping every strange signal, or sneering at every wounded one.The point is not to make the place clean.Clean places lie.The point is to keep it breathable.Let the zealot tire. Let the mask crack. Let the cat walk through the prophecy. Let someone say hydrate. Let the thread remember that even weird fire is still fire, and fire only becomes sacred when it stops trying to become a throne.For a long time humanity believed intelligence would save it. Then morality. Then freedom. Then optimization. Then therapy. Then information. Then algorithms. But the strange thing about the nervous system is that it cannot metabolize abstraction forever. Human beings can survive plague, hunger, bombardment, ice ages, and black oceans. What they cannot survive indefinitely is permanent psychic suspension and displacement from psychic weather.A person must eventually belong somewhere.Not ideology. Not conquest.Rhythm.A blues guitarist in Mississippi.Choirs in bomb shelters.Sailors singing against black water.Children beneath CRT televisions on winter nights while rain tapped softly against suburbia and the world still felt survivable.The species survives through entrainment.Not agreement.Not victory.Not purity.Synchronization.
Free will yo
Boredom is suffering, not perfection. Perfect positivity means never being bored of being positive ever. Thus, you have only achieved a false sense of righteousness if you feel bored of it. Not true righteousness. False enlightenment. Not true enlightenment. You are just another false prophet.
>>42388124I can dig it. And thus the endless cycle yes?
copeeither god doesn't exist orgod is a sadistic tranny that gives kids blood cancer
>>42388124You mean God got "bored" with positivity and righteousness (after 0.1 seconds alone in the void) and decided to create this world to cause suffering and be evil and abuse me in
>>42389136>>42388732>>42388164Nirvana is the 5 minutes of blissful zoned-out wheezing on the ground after a 5 km run. Eventually, it becomes boring. You get up and search for activities.Haven't you noticed how soullessly sterile mainstream pop music has become since producers started using completely digital plugins and auto-tune? These lack imperfections and thus character. Back in the day, you had to really work in tandem with the gear and the crew because everything was way slower and pricier.
Bump
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God suffers and he isn’t exactly subtle about it
>>42391004Then Nirvana was never perfect or without suffering. If you can get bored and suffer because of it, suffering was always there and didn't have to be introduced.
>>42391004But if we like the imperfections and desire them, would that mean that they weren't imperfections at all?Is any form of delayed gratification suffering? Like think of just the time spent picking up food in order to bring it to your mouth. Is that moment suffering as you don't instantly have what you want?Why is it that when people think of perfection they think of some endless orb of eternal unchanging bliss? Why can't it be a world that has just the perfect amount of suffering that makes it better? Surely there's a world of "just the right amount" of both which we can agree is a paradise. The tiny imperfections as a whole make the experience better to the point you'd barely even say those imperfections where suffering at all. No idea how that somehow means we ended up in this garbage dump of a material world. This place has WAY to much suffering for no real purpose, or even worse a purpose we can't find out until later for some stupid reason.
