>What is TRE?TRE stands for Trauma/Tension Releasing Exercises, a somatic trauma therapy system created by David Berceli. It triggers a natural tremoring response in the body which releases muscular tension.>How do I perform TRE?TRE is usually taught in two steps. The six pre-fatiguing exercises which are used to prime the body to make inducing the tremor response easier, and the floor sequence which will induce the actual tremors. Most people can tremor by doing the floor sequence only, without the pre-fatiguing exercises.Official video (6 pre-fatiguing exercises + floor sequence)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeUioDuJjFIGuided session (floor sequence only)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoB9wpuO688Real sessions with experience reports:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbbaFTTvxU0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr2XFrinOloMore demos can be found on YouTube.>Why should I do TRE?Releasing tension from your body has tons of physical and mental health benefits. The technique has very strong effects on the nervous system which every human should experience for themselves.>What does this have to do with /x/?Practicing TRE regularly will help you gain a sense of calmness, clarity and increased sensitivity to your body, which will have a positive effect on meditation and energetic practices. TRE helps with resolving energetic blockages by releasing the trapped energy.If you are suffering nervous system related physical/mental issues, TRE might be a way of alleviating them.WARNING:If you are sensitive, limit your session time to a maximum of 10 minutes when starting out. Normal people can start with 20-30 minutes. This is a real and extremely strong technique. Beginners should rest for 48 hours between sessions. Old thread:https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41101884
It’s more fun just to take it out on other people.
>>42391266What would using this with EMDR be like?
>>42391266Just let yourself collapse and shake like a deer after a predator event. You don't need fancy anything. Just cry and tremble. It's hard to let go but it's the most renewing path. Especially since most things tell you the opposite.
>>42391266is this the TRE anon who also once asked mom to just swish urine in the mouth to heal from throat issue (and yourself with gum and teeth issues?)if yes, cheers fren, i thought the posts were funny and useful
>>42391513These exercises don't work yet for me. I can't get the trembling to start.
>>42391472In my opinion, the two methods should complement each other just fine. I don't have much experience with EMDR though. If you choose to try it, I would be interested in seeing an experience report.>>42391513Agree, that would be the most natural way to do it. But most adults cannot experience this natural reaction anymore after decades of repressing themselves. TRE can offer a way of accessing this reflex again.>>42391545Interesting anecdote, although that wasn't me.>>42391547Can you describe what you tried and what you felt while doing it (if anything)? When trying to get TRE to work for the first time, the internal state is just as important as the external movements. The key lies in relaxing, observing your body while holding the butterfly position and letting any light oscillations (which will happen because of muscle fatigue) happen. These light movements will then usually amplify into full tremors.These posts from the old thread might help you:https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41101884/#q41102416https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/41101884/#q41131385In general, the old thread contains a lot of useful information.
>>42391571how do you respond to someone skeptical about all this stuff?
>>42391266tre lying on back just gives me gastric distress
>>42391266>It triggers a natural tremoring response in the body which releases muscular tension.yeah fucking right
>>42391266>This is a real and extremely strong technique.ah yes all trustworthy science has this disclaimer
>>42391731Depends on what they are skeptical about. The most common questions are usually these:>Can TRE really cause such a strong involuntary tremoring response? Are you sure it isn't placebo, suggestion or faked videos?To answer this question, people need to experience the tremoring once for themselves. For most, it's enough to follow the instructions with an open mind, although others might have difficulties, most often with the awareness required. When teaching people IRL, I have never met anyone who does not have tremors. If you experience it once, you will know the tremor response is real.>Even if it is possible to shake like that, what is the benefit supposed to be?Almost everyone has experienced situations when people naturally tremble in stress situations. For example children shaking from fear, fidgeting around with the legs when you are forced to sit still, trembling in the face from anger... From a theoretical standpoint, this kind of movement expresses the tension that appears in the body, if you let those releases happen, the body will naturally return to a calm state.Most modern people are trapped in a state of chronic tension. Inducing the tremoring response will have a strong calming, discharging effect on the body. Once again, this should be intuitively clear for anyone who tries TRE themselves a few times. The relaxing effect can be very strong, and is usually felt immediately after a session of 20 minutes.>Is trauma really stored in the body? Where's the evidence?I wouldn't take this expression literally, there is no location where trauma is stored. But what is true is that people who go through periods of high stress or "trauma" if you want to call it that, have a higher level of tension than the average person. This shows in their posture, behavior and general physical health. The effect is well documented in psychological literature.If you have any other questions, feel free to ask in this thread, I'll try to answer them.
>>42392389all the trembling could just be attributed to the effects of adrenaline. has there been any attempt to quantify any of this stuff or is it more of a theoretical concept, as you mentioned? saying that 'you just have to experience it for yourself' is more of a religious admonition than anything else.
>>42392483Neurogenic tremoring in the absence of adrenaline is definitely real. I don't see any problem with saying that you should experience the tremors for yourself, since it is quickly verifiable. It should take less than an hour to just try it. But I'll try to give a more convincing visual proof.Check out this video, where the concept of self-induced tremors is explained. The guy is lying on the floor, calmly gesturing with his hands, no adrenaline involved. Now observe the movements of his legs and hips. Can a person even consciously move that fast? That is subconscious movement.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR89DJDsJE8When it comes to the therapeutic effect of those tremors, that is indeed harder to verify. Attempts have been made to quantify the effects of TRE, there are studies which are in progress right now. But at the moment, I would say that the only real evidence comes in the form of experience reports, which of course only reflect individual experience. There are numerous positive reports on the internet. If you are interested, I will link some good ones.
>>42392604ooh i see what you're talking about. and yes, you can definitely set those going through adopting certain positions etc. the easiest are leg jiggles while sat down. your knee will just keep bobbing up and down faster than you could do it deliberately.i dont believe this has anything at all to do with getting rid of tension or trauma. its more along the lines of a reflex response.
>>42392646Leg jiggles are a good example of a subconscious tremor, which you can induce or stop at will.But do you really think that jiggling your leg has nothing to do with stress or tension? Imagine sitting in a crowd and jiggling your legs. Immediately people will ask you: "Are you nervous?" or "Can you stop that? It's making me nervous!". If you see someone jiggling their leg, what do you think about them? Who is more likely to jiggle their legs, someone who is totally calm or someone who is uncomfortable? And the most important question is probably this one: Why do people subconsciously jiggle their legs?If you catch someone doing it, they will probably be a bit embarrassed and tell you there is no reason or they are bored, but the truth is it feels good for them to jiggle their legs. It relieves a bit of nervous tension. Try it for yourself.TRE is basically learning how to jiggle your hip flexors, if you want to put it like that. The biggest hip flexor being the psoas, which is linked to contracting the body in the fetal position. The fight or flight response. TRE gets rid of tension in the hip flexors, the same way jiggling your leg will reduce the tension in the leg. And that tension in the hip flexors is linked to trauma.Does this explanation make any sense?
>>42392747I recall participating in debate clubs, to a large gathering. And the only thing my legs would do of their own will is shake violently, so violent that I had to hold the podium to maintain my balance.I know psychosomatic stress makes my voice shaky, but I never thought to use it the other way round.I wonder that's what higher levels of Yoga does. It's a reverse Psychosomatic stress that pushes your mental ability beyond the natural.
>>42392747i get that you believe its all connected but i dont agree that theres stress and tension needing to come out through deliberately setting these jiggles going. not going to deny that it can feel nice to have jiggled for a bit though because its similar in some ways to any kind of exercise and perhaps some endorphin release because of it, as with many kinds of exercise.
>>42392913and/or just the nice afterglow of a good stretch.
>>42392936Well, I can only encourage you to try the TRE method for yourself, you will see that the intensity of tremors in the hips greatly surpasses tremors in the calves. The feeling afterwards is different from exercise endorphins, it is a deep relaxation and release. It really has nothing to do with exercise.
Is this method good for any psychological trauma? I have loads of trauma symptoms but I can’t pinpoint what the trauma actually is. So I think it’s CPTSD - lots of little things have added up over the years and they’re all sitting in my brain right now. Would this technique help?
>>42392913That's exactly it.Psychological stress causes a somatic effect, such as shaky legs or shaky voice. These somatic effects are expressions of the psychological stress, and help with processing it.We start from the other end.By inducing the somatic effects deliberately in a safe environment, psychological stress is released beyond the normal.>>42393217It's definitely worth a try. However, if you describe yourself as having lots of trauma symptoms, please be careful when starting out. Once you get the tremors going, do it for 10 minutes, rest and check how you feel. Go for as long as it feels comfortable. If people with a high traumatic load do this technique for the first time, it can be very fatiguing. Emotions and memories might come up. Just be aware of this. After trying TRE, do something that is comfortable and relaxing for you. I tend to take a nap. Please share your experience if you choose to try it.
