How come the solo scriptura, hard-ass, scriptural literalist Protestants swallow the trinity doctrine without questions asked?I am curious, why do they?
>>42393513Why wouldn't they? If scripture is their final authority, there's no reason to disregard what it clearly establishes about the subject.
>>42393513cultural momentum and the trinity is the least retarded explanation why having 3 gods isn't polytheism.
>>42393531the bible does not support the trinity concept, it clearly shows that god and jesus are not the same in many parts
>>42393554but how do they not have an identity crisis, picking apart relentlessly the unbiblical doctrines of the catholic church, yet they swallow the trinity
>>42393925Mine does: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” (1 John 5:7)Also rookie mistake on your part for not discerning the fact that Jesus speaks as a man in subjection to God, but also as God Himself with absolute authority; that's the mystery of the incarnation, Jesus is both man and God at the same time.
>>42393969here is what it truly says>For they that bear witness are three: the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and the three agree in one
>>42393969>these three are onethis doesnt mean jack shit, just like adam and eve became one flesh
>>42393996You just quoted the next verse, not a translation, and it's more confirmation of the triune nature of God.“And Jesus [SON], when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove [HOLY GHOST], and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven [FATHER], saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matthew 3:16-17)
>>42393925Yes it does, read the KJV, not the corrupted Alexandrian texts that ushered in the dark ages
>>423940206 This is he that came by water and blood, Jesus [the] Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that bears witness, for the Spirit is the truth.7 For they that bear witness are three:8 the Spirit, and the water, and the blood; and the three agree in one.9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater. For this is the witness of God [which] he has witnessed concerning his Son.
>>42394022KJV is a mall pastor bible
>>42394027Megachurch gopher detected
>>42394024Get a real bible with the whole verses:“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” (1 John 5:7)“And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” (1 John 5:8)
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threadly reminder jewish prophets and the bible claim earth is shaped like a dome lmao
>>42394092seeing that together really tempts me toward Bart Ehrman, that some Catholic scribe just changed "agree in one" to "are one" in the Middle Ages
>>42394239>be subversive roman christian>nooitce the triumverate is powerful>WE MUST STEAL THE TRIUMVERATE>behold i come as a thief1 such case
>>42393513>devsI think a lot of our history was an AI simulation. None of our "ancient" ruins are really that old.
>>42394092my bible is better than your bible, fool!
fucking King James Bible retards are truly insufferable
>>42394239of course, this king james retard is trashing the faithful translation I presented, just because he is a simpleton who doesn't understand reality
>>42393969>Mine doesIs it a Catholic version?
>>42396211I think he means the Anglican Bible
So far nobody answered the fucking question.
>>42396211Nope, good ole' KJV: https://www.bibleprotector.com/
>>42396263I'm the anon that posted the first response in this thread, go read it, make a better case.
>>42396292I already replied to it
>>42393925jesus IS god. that's why the trinity is fraud. the trinity was invented so jews can pretend they worship the same god apart from christ.
>>42393513how come the trinity concept makes midwits so angry, you can understand and watch movies with concepts even more complicated yet trinity is difficult
>>42399219>jesus is godThe crucifixion debunks christianity>why have you forsaken meHow can god separate himself from himself
>>42399519kek, this again...
>>42399472modalism is not trinity
>>42399519not to mention>into your hand I commit my spirit
>>42399219>jesus IS god.he is A god, but not the mighty creator God, he is a smaller god
>>42399472>how come the trinity concept makes midwits so angry, you can understand and watch movies with concepts even more complicated yet trinity is difficultOK, in that case, explain it to me
>>42399853>just reposts the same junkeven that chart shows the son is connected to god as godwhich is contradicted by being forsaken
>>42401159he is so dumb he was not able to read or understand the OP image
>>42393513oh look they reskinned triglav
>>42401159>implying that being connected equals there being no distinctions among themIt's clearly an iq issue at this point. Can't help you with that.
>>42401946Did jesus stop being godYes or no?
>>42401951The eternal Son of God, no. His incarnated body, yes, for a specific amount of time.
>>42401961Then you just denied your own meme image that he is god
>>42401972How?
>>423935133 norse Norns3 greek MoiraiThe Absolute and Her two tulpas.Farher is the past.Son is the present.Holy Ghost is only True God, the perfect future and future's present.It is a trilogy.
DIES IRAE = ERIS IDEA
>>42401974>"me me why have I forsaken myself"
>>42401998Again, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are united spiritually (for lack of a better word) as one God, but each person in the godhead is distinct.When Jesus was saying that, He was calling to the Father, not Himself.
>>42402011he is god is he not? you don't make any fucking sense and made your stupid diagram worthless
>>42402048Of course He is, it's in the diagram you imbecile.
>>42402052>god>but also stopped being god and forsaken by god
>>42402055Already answered that here: >>42401961Get new material.
>>42402065that didn't answer anythingif he is 3-in-1 god how did he get separated? hmm?>Why do you call me good? Only god alone is good >t. Rabbi Yeshua
>>42402078>if he is 3-in-1 god how did he get separated hmm?“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21)When God the father was pouring out His wrath upon His Son at the cross, His very body had transformed (metaphysically, not just symbolically) into sin, and thus the destruction of Jesus' body resulted in the destruction of our sins, sins so ugly God the Father turned His back on this gruesome sight, hence the "forsaken" cry; it was true separation, but specifically separation of the body itself, which the eternal Son of God was inhabiting at the moment.>Why do you call me good? Only god alone is goodIn context He was saying "Either acknowledge me as God or don't call me good at all, because mere men can't be good".
>>42402114mental gymnasticsyour diagram says he is intrinsically god but loses that quality lolyou must be joking the verse is plain. he doesn't claim to be good.
>>42402122I don't exoect you to get any of this. Clearly this is something only saved people are able to receive by the power of the Holy Spirit. I tried, but as usual, skullduggery prevailed.“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” (John 10:11)“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14)
They're taught from a young age to not question authority, even when it doesn't make sense. Those who do are beaten until they either become like those who beat them for questioning, or they leave.
>>42399472The trinity is fucking retarded dude. Just admit it.
They don't, almost none of them beleive the holy ghost until I came alone. The bird took off on Jesus Christ, left him hanging on the cross. Jesus has plotted his revenge since, why he killed stephen. Also his father is a serpent.Father, glorify Your name!” Then a voice came from heaven: “I have glorified it, and I will glorify it again.” 29 The crowd standing there heard it and said that it had thundered. Others said that an angel had spoken to Him.
>>42393513>>42394217The trinity is like the three body of Buddha. God is Life Force.> The Father is the source, the intelligent energy : the will of the Father> The Sonis the will of the father from heaven, manifested on Earth. It's the intelligent energy from spirit manifested. > The Holy SpiritIt's the spirit of the Son of Man (spirit without Ego) purified by the will of father.The trinity is the ministery of Christ in man. (The second coming.)The Father, the Son and Holy Spirit are all Spirit in 3 phases : Heaven, Man, Earth. The Man who has the Holy Spirit is the the bridge between Heaven and Earth (Spiritual / Physical), the channeler of the Will of the Father that manifest a the Son on Earth.This the most sacred spiritual healing technique channeled by a priest.
>>42402114>god turned himself into pure sin and destroyed himselfThere are so many things wrong with this aside from the trinitarian bullshit, not least of all is the implication that sin comes from god and that people still sin today so the destruction of sin (again that he created) is absolutely meaningless
When a Man fast from the world and sacrifice his Ego, he become the Son of Man. (Rigtheous man without Ego.)Then the Son of Man is allowed to enter the Kingdom of the Father (since the Son of Man isn't a Man anymore). By entering the kingdom the Son of Man will be purified in the purgatory then he will reborn as the Son of God with the Holy Spirit and the Will of the Father. This is the salvation or transfiguration bestowed for the Son of Man, during the lifetime. The Christ consioussness, the ministry of Christ, bestowed to any disciple that give his life and follow the Christ. (This is in the 4 Gospell)
>>42393513Because they believe each verse stands on its own, even when multiple verses contradict each other.