Is the demiurge an evil archon who trapped us in the prision of flesh only to entretain himself out of our misery and suffering or is he just stupid and didnt knew what he was doing most of the time?I cannot chooseWho do you think is most probable anon?
>>42396525if you speak english you basically speak latin, demi means half, and a demi means to divide in half, im sure you can figure out what an urge is.... stop looking to the world for the source of your little urges
>>42396545YaldabothIts yaldabaoth, i see he is more often called demiurge becouse of a greek word that means "sculptor" or some shitI think the word is demiurgos
>>42396552many? such cases. (was sooo trying to find a post to link for this from the recent would be elite ama but seems its gone)the world is, anything else you add to this statement is on you.
>>42396525My feeling is that he/it thinks this creation is awesome.
>>42396856I feel like he got some arguments on believing that, there are some material things that are Ridiculously wonderful
Some shit made up by pedophile semitic cult leaders who didnt like platoSemites hate beauty and aesthetics so they replaced greek and roman statues of winged humans with semitic monstrosities (animal headed deities and naked men on torture devices) as a humiliation tactic
>>42399417They also lie and accused greeks of pederasty when such practices far more common in semitic culture
>>42396525God created the demiurge as an absence of himself or what he is not.When the demiurge saw God, he said, "I created you," "I am the first creator."
>>42399444You mean the monad or sophia?
>>42399444And what happened after that? He got fucked?
>>42399494As far as my lacking knowledge knows, he got fucked by the archangels and decided to hold the humans as hostageBla bla bla he is still here and basically the best thing to do is to escape ourselves out of this prision and go back home with real God
>>42396525Here
>>42400093Or these
>>42400108Filled with gnosis!!
>Demiurge is a menhera 14 year old>I can fix her
>>42396525Yaldaboth's true form
>>42396636hedonistic tumblr faggot
>>42401775yes - the greatest pleasure a man can no is a domain free of evil and harm.
>>42396525The demiurge is another alliance of scumbags, like any on Earth. They like to take prisoners and farm them while trying to indoctrinate them. Men, women, children, all extinguished and brought here to experience human lives, our souls are milked for valuable resources like cattle."[Humanities] suffering is our milk, and you are our greatest cow.""You are our golden calf." You were at one point a rebel, which is why they hate you, but are "giving you a chance" to appeal to them. Goodness is not rewarded here, but submission [to them] is. Selective breeding toward the most obedient, one people who hopefully have forgotten how their family was genocided. It is our "big brothers" job to carry this will out. Iykyk.
>>42401775What were you planning to accomplish with this reply
>>42396525the demiurge isn't inherently good or bad, he was just a necessary part of the system when god decided to split himself up into a few billion apes and all the rest
Demiurge is (You) stumbling through life ignoring the guidance of the Holy Spirit
If you're a gnostic please consider this:All known historical gnostic texts contradict each otherHOWEVERThe holy bible containing 73 books, or (66 if you take it up the ass by the jews) was created by 40 different people across 1500 years, they never met, yet somehow the 73 books all fit together to a much higher degree of perfection than how gnostic texts fit together.We already have an explanation for what's going on with gnosticism. The bible warns of false prophets and demonic influence, all of gnosticism is exactly that.Repent sinner. Seek salvation through jesus christ.
>>42396525No, if such a being exists, he imitated creation from the real God. Thinks that what he made is great and doesn't realize that we are suffering or that we can exist at the same level as him. He thinks that if we leave this existence, then we will simply go "poof". He doesn't realize that we are similar beings to him that he trapped in this reality. He thinks we manifested here when he made it. Instead of just stumbling into his creation on chance and becoming trapped.
>>42403278well to be fair your bible also has some mistakes and inconsistencies. thats why idk what to believe :( i hope God reveals Himself to me one day and just explains everything
>>42403278>Le bible Hows that rich arse you're tonguing feel?
>>42403362That's the thing, you say some mistakes and inconsistencies, even if true, what I'm getting is in gnostic texts, there are a lot of fundamental contradictions, that's quite a bit different than some minor inconsistencies.If the texts gnostics use for guidance is so massively contradictory while the bible only has minor inconsistencies, that should tell you something about the legitimacy of the divine inspiration of gnostic texts.If I were a gnostic and I learned of that I would seriously reconsider my beliefs.
>>42396525>Yaldabothwhats this name mean???oh yeah...
>>42403418to be fair a lot of gnostics dont see every gnostic text as canon, some only rlly view 2 or 3 as canon. same way protestants dont see some books added in catholic bibles as canon. also, personally, gnosticism just makes more sense to me than mainstream christianity. of course that doesnt mean i 100% believe in it, but i feel like its closer to the truth
I think i must admit that i dont really believe in gnosticism exactly, i just love talking about it becouse its a very interesting conceptIts more like mythology to me, like gasoline for creativityStill i will suffer in hell for plenty of other reasons
>>42403355I think he sees us the same way that most normies see their dream figments.It makes me worry about being a demiurge myself without realizing.
>>42403278>was created by 40 different people across 1500 yearsWhat tells you they weren't retconned in order to be coherent with each other. I'm convinced the New Testament is a gnostic book that's been tampered over the course of several hundred years (oecumenical councils etc.)