Well, your description of the universe is absolutely wrong and severely lacking.
Did ai generate this larp?

>>42438906
Whats the use of the energy/qi/etc that enters from the crown chakra?

>>42438906
What ARE foxes? Why are they spiritually significant?

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>>42438906
>So what IS the universe?
It's all just mind experiencing itself.

>>42438938
“Crown chakra” is the traditional name for the upper intake/interface point of the local field-body.

Its use is not power in a comic book way. It is coherence input.

It allows the local consciousness/body system to receive higher-order field information. orientation, pattern correction, inspiration, lucidity, spiritual pressure, etc. Qi/prana is not just fuel. It is organized potential. When it enters through the crown, it tends to act downward as ordering pressure on the whole subtle/body system.

Bad model: “energy comes in and makes me strong.”
Better model: “higher-coherence field potential enters the system and reorganizes lower disordered patterns.”

If the lower centers are unstable, it can destabilize the person. If the system is clean, it clarifies and aligns.

What you do with it is up to you, but what it ultimately is, is a higher coherency of your manifested construction.

>>42438952
>mind
Mind, consciousness, and brain get mangled together often to mean the same thing.

A mind is a localized manifestation of consciousness with a continuous reference point that it experiences as self.

Consciousness itself is independent of any one particular mind.

Humans have mind. Animals have mind. One mind is different from another mind. They all derive their consciousness from the same single unified source. Mind itself is a modulation of that consciousness source. The localized pattern of a brain or the mind is how that source consciousness experiences apparent multiplicity. It is a lens that distorts the subjective experience of incoming information.

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>>42438964
>Mind, consciousness, and brain get mangled together often to mean the same thing.
Mind is the fundamental reality. That what "is".
Consciousness is a mental formation, like a program, existing in the mind. That is commonly called a "soul". It is immortal and experiences an endless chain of "lives" in the "world".
The brain is part of the illusion that is seen as the "material world". The soul is dreaming to have a body and a brain. Fundamentally the body and the soul are just mind, both have no real existence.

How do we ensure that our sense of self stays intact after death and not get mindwipe/absorbed/dissipate/feed on/ whatever.
I like me and i want to stay me.

>>42438945

Not “demons” by default. Not “spirits” by default. The animal itself is a biological fox. But the fox-pattern is spiritually significant because it sits at the boundary between visible and hidden intelligence.

It is solitary, nocturnal/crepuscular, adaptive, quiet, beautiful, predatory, playful, and hard to pin down. That makes it an excellent carrier-symbol for threshold intelligence.

Mechanically: certain animal forms become symbolic attractors because their field-pattern expresses a specific mode of consciousness. The fox expresses cunning, concealment, boundary-crossing, deception, survival intelligence, and quick switching between approach and retreat.

So when cultures associate foxes with spirits, shapeshifters, tricksters, omens, seduction, or messengers, they are not randomly making things up. They are reading the same archetypal field-signature through different local traditions.

A fox is spiritually significant because it represents intelligence that does not confront directly. It bends, hides, lures, tests, escapes, and reveals by misdirection.

When people "commune with a fox spirit" they are not hallucinating an archetype, they are connecting their own consciousness toward another consciousness pattern using a fox as an anchor for their intention. They are using it as a sort of address space or reference point. All things carry a phase address, which can be linked with even the slightest bit of attached information. They are linked through the unified substrate. Substantive phase locking with the target allows for greater information carryover between subject and object.

>>42438997
>I like me and i want to stay me.
(The root of all problems in the universe.)

>>42438906
Its the sun conscious?
I swear sometimes its like its trying to tell us something

Biokinesis for the purpose of aesthetic body alteration, healing and regeneration of lost limbs. Is it possible? If so how to do?

>>42438988
>both have no real existence
define existence. I am speaking ontologically here.

>>42438997
You preserve selfhood by increasing coherence before death.

“Self” is not the ego’s chatter. It is the stable reference-pattern of consciousness: memory, will, orientation, attention, identity, and moral/ontological alignment.

After death, the biological interface drops. What remains stable is whatever part of you was coherent enough to persist without the body regulating it.

So the practical answer is:

Strengthen attention.
Know yourself clearly.
Stop lying to yourself.
Do not consent to beings, lights, voices, contracts, guides, “missions,” or identity-dissolution unless you know exactly what they are.
Develop will without paranoia.
Develop discernment without fear.
Keep a clear orientation toward truth/source rather than comfort, glamour, or authority.

Mindwipe/absorption/dissipation are failures of coherence, consent, attachment, or capture.

If you want to stay you, become more actually you before death. Less reactive mask. More stable soul-pattern.

The easiest way to do this is to consider the highest possible ordering principle of manifestation, which is generally referred to as the Logos. By linking your attention to it, you may harmonize with it, increasing your coherency as a result of entering into a two way bridge. Do not attempt to contact any other beings or give them attention in any way. That is a trap. Seek only to align to the highest possible perfected good of existence. Consider nothing else.

>>42439027
>define existence. I am speaking ontologically here.
Existence is classically defined as having an idependent "self". Not necessarily in the sense of an ego (only in case of a soul) but as an substance that constitutes independent being.
All phenomena, be it material or spiritual, have no such self or substance. They're formations in the mind, they come from nothing and vanish into nothing, so they're fundamentally nothing. (Therefore the basic buddhist teaching that the true nature of everything is "emptiness".)

>>42439016
Yes, but not as a human-style personality sitting inside a ball of plasma.

The sun is a massive coherent field-being.

It has a body in terms of plasma, magnetism, light, gravity, rhythm, cycles.
It has expression in terms of radiation, storms, flares, heliospheric pressure.
It has relation to us and every living thing on Earth is entrained to it whether they know it or not.

Consciousness does not begin at brains. Brains are local interfaces. A star is a vastly larger coherent field-structure, so the question is not “does it have neurons?” The question is “does it possess organized self-relation and field-expression?” It does, yes.

What it “says” is not language. It communicates by pressure, timing, light, rhythm, biological entrainment, symbol, dream, and field-state.

Your consideration of the sun tunes your mind toward that solar tract. Once tuned, the pattern can bleed through as symbols, stories, allegory, mystical interpretation, dreams, or sudden insight into solar order.

The intelligence of the sun is communicated through the pattern it induces into the Aether. By entering that tract, you are not “imagining the sun talking.” You are interpreting solar intelligence through the symbols your mind can render.

>>42439045
>Logos
Darn, I was optimistic that you might actually have some real information.

>>42439043
>an independent "self"
I would agree that nothing is ultimately independent

>but as an substance that constitutes independent being
Correct, a soul is a pattern inside of the substance, but not an independent thing in itself. Patterns are not things. Patterns are a posterior attribute of a different real thing. Ergo, souls would not exist as independent substances, they are configurations of a real substance.

>they come from nothing and vanish into nothing
They come from something and vanish back into that something if the pattern inside of that something is destroyed or decohered. It is not possible for there to be an ontological state of absolute nothingness. Dissolution back into the only fundamental real substance, thereby destroying the soul, does not destroy the substance of which the soul is made. The soul may be gone, but the substance remains.

>>42439027
>Develop will without paranoia
Please expand on this if posible , thank you

>>42439059
The Logos is the orderly grammar of reality. It is the principle by which reality is intelligible at all.

You can describe it as a three-part information relation:

Subject, object, relation.
Knower, known, information passing between them.
Self, other, intelligibility.

Without that structure, nothing can be known, witnessed, related, expressed, compared, reasoned about, or manifested as order.

So denying Logos as a fundamental principle is not just denying a religious term. It is denying the basis of intelligibility, logic, rationality, knowability, order, coherence, and meaningful manifestation.

The proof of Logos is not “because a book says so.”

The proof of Logos is that reality is intelligible, lawful, and witnessable at all.

Order that can be known implies an ordering principle by which it is knowable. Without the Logos, nothing at all could exist. Because we can see anything exists, this is already proof of a three part informational exchange structure which has cause, effect, and rationality at its fundamental basis.

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>>42439088
>Regurgitated ontological argument
Oh yea, Christcuck detected. Alright in vague terms I agree that this "principal" exists, but the belief that it physically incarnated as a Jewish Rabbi 2000 years ago is absurd.

>>42439087
Will is the ability to hold direction.

Paranoia is what happens when direction gets hijacked by threat-fixation.

Developing will without paranoia means becoming harder to redirect without becoming obsessed with enemies, traps, archons, demons, mindwipe, false light, etc.

A coherent will says:

“I know what I am.
I know what I consent to.
I know what I refuse.
I remain oriented toward truth.”

A paranoid will says:

“Everything is trying to trick me.
Every light is a trap.
Every being is hostile.
Every impulse might not be mine.”

That second state weakens you. It scatters attention and makes you easier to steer, because fear becomes the steering wheel.

The goal is calm sovereignty. with no automatic trust and no automatic fear.

Discernment means you test, observe, refuse unclear contracts, reject coercion, and keep your center. You do not panic just because something is unfamiliar.

After death, or in altered states, fear is one of the easiest ways to manipulate a consciousness. So the correct posture is not “trust everything” or “fear everything.”

The correct posture is:

“I remain myself. I consent only to truth. I do not follow coercion, glamour, shame, threat, flattery, or false authority.”

That is will without paranoia.

In wave-state language, paranoia is unstable threat-resonance. Attention locks onto possible hostile patterns and over-amplifies them until every signal gets interpreted through the same fear carrier-wave. It creates high amplitude, low coherence, phase-jitter, defensive recursion, and a weak center with an overactive perimeter. Discernment tests signals calmly. Paranoia keeps scanning forever. Will without paranoia means stable phase-lock. The center holds, attention stays mobile, unknown signals are tested without automatic trust or fear, and only truth gets consent.

>>42439108
Good thing we're not talking about religions, huh?

>>42439111
>Every light is a trap.
Checked and not EVERY light is a trap but the one described in NDEs IS a trap to continue the endless cycle of suffering on Earth.

>>42439129
Yea as long as this "Seek only to align to the highest possible perfected good of existence. Consider nothing else.", isn't Jesus then we are good.

>>42439111
>After death, or in altered states, fear is one of the easiest ways to manipulate a consciousness.
Which is why hell is such an evil teaching.

LLM thread

>>42439130
>Checked and not EVERY light is a trap but the one described in NDEs IS a trap to continue the endless cycle of suffering on Earth.
That does appear to be a distinct possibility, yes. It is technologically plausible to be able to create a magnetic field containment mechanism which prevents a soul pattern from being able to leave a specific containment zone. If you capture and route the pattern into a localized area, you can potentially scramble it, destroy it entirely, imprint it into something else, or contain it for as long as the containment environment holds. I would be extremely wary of such beings in this light if you encounter them. It is also technologically plausible to spoof a higher ordered coherence signature to inhabit such a regime. So a creature could exist in those higher coherence states while having absolutely zero embodied alignment to a place that would normally require you to be in harmonic alignment with it if you were going there with nothing but your bare soul.

Luminous beings by themselves offer zero actual proof that they are good in any meaningful sense that you can derive from their appearance alone.

>>42438906
>”They do indeed have mechanistic explanations”
lol linear thinkers are so funny. If they can’t reduce it to mechanics it doesn’t exist and then when they think they can reduce it to mechanics they wanna pretend to have the stalwart explanation
Lalala la dee dee
Your math in op is mostly fine but far from wholly correct, which is fine for conjecture
Ultimately however if you’re trying to reduce all this into a subset of math instead of math being a subset of all of this, you’re already wrong, right from jump

Phil Schneider was right? Thoughts on the Philadelphia experiment?

>>42439070
>They come from something
No. There is not "something".
Mind is not something, it's the foundation or the ground where "something" comes into "existence". Mind itself has no substance, it doesn't "exist", it's just empty. Everything that seems to exist is an illusion (object), perceived by an illusion (subject).
True existence would require creation, and creation is not possible. To really exist, something would need to come from something, what is even logically impossible. To say something is created by itself is incoherent, because it wouldn't be an act of creation. A creates A isn't creation of A because A is already there. It's just a dublication of the same. But where does A come from? A being created by B is also not possible. To really exist, B would need to have fundamental reality in it's own right, unchanging and eternal. A real existing substance could not become something else than itself, otherwise it would be an impermanent phenomena and not fundamentally real. So something can't be created by something else. Nothig exists fundamentally, nothing is created, nothing remains, nothing ends. Every perceived existence, in dualitic categories of me and you, subject and object, past and future, beginning and end, is just an illusion. It arises from nothing, the mind itself is nothing, phenomena are nothing and consciousness is nothing. Ontologically seen.
But this is advanced stuff. It takes decades of meditation to even very basically understand emptiness.

>>42439017
The body is a biological field-pattern. Consciousness can influence that pattern because the body is not separate from the field-system generating it. But dense tissue is slow, constrained, inherited, chemically regulated, and locked into existing morphology.

So small changes are plausible when done alone (the placebo effect). Alone you can alter healing rate, inflammation, pain, endocrine state, posture, expression, skin quality, recovery, subtle aesthetic shifts.

Large changes like regrowing a lost limb are not impossible in absolute ontology, but they require command over morphogenetic patterning far beyond normal human ability. You would need to reassert the complete limb-pattern into the biological field, supply energy, prevent scar closure, and force cells back into a developmental/regenerative program.

For more advanced healing with only biokinetic elements, you need more than one person, potentially a dozen or even more. They all need to be resonantly aligned so they serve as a phase array. One will is okay, but it is energetically constrained. Several wills have more energy, but often lack entrainment to the correct pattern. Several aligned wills using a correct carrier wave can bend reality and instantiate their will onto matter. This is the mechanism of, "miracles."

Technologically speaking this becomes easier. All you need is to be understand what limb is missing. You need the mapped coherent field signature. Then, you instantiate that pattern back onto the signature while supplying an incredible amount of dielectric coherency into the subject. This is how "medbeds," (if they are real) would work. They've been reported to exist and limb regeneration has been reported in them. IF they are a real technology humans have already developed, this is exactly how they work. Reinstantiation of a field signature while supplying coherent energetic input through manipulation of the dielectric through voltage with low amperage.

>>42439181
NTA but there is a fine line between Buddhist philosophy and being annoyingly pedantic.

>>42439171
What is the non-linear truth then?

>>42439027
An actual answer, thanks. I so sick and tired of people thinking that self preservation is some great evil.
Mind if i keep asking questions or is it one per person?

>>42439171
No math was present or is present in any of my posts.

>>42439180
The Philadelphia experiment was an accidental discovery of a modification of a boundary condition. By shielding an object from incoming magnetism, you are decoupling it from a localized field state. At sufficiently high levels of decoupling, something will appear to simply blink out of existence since you have no capability to entangle any level of information with it. This was one of the first times that physicists bumped against altering the participation of an object with the surrounding field.

Small reflection of magnetism appears as refraction. Larger appears as a sort of cloaking. Even more and an object becomes invisible. At the absolute level of zero incoming magnetism, the object completely decouples from witnessable existence in any meaningful capacity. Neither the occupants nor any potential outside observers have any capability to see through that boundary condition.

UFOs operate by modifying their boundary conditions to allow greater or lesser levels of participation with the surrounding substrate environment. Their skin allows a coherent envelope to develop, which acts as a single continuous object, what physicists might refer to as a "BEC/Bose-Einstein Condensate". They say that this allows for "macroscopic quantum effects" but they don't even really know what that term means. It means what I just described.

>>42439209
You are on an anonymous website anon

>>42439218
Are the pilots of UFOS extraterrestrials?

>>42439209
Keep asking. I'm happy to answer. I want to create an artifact on the archive that anyone can come back to and view later. If you teach yourself about what I'm saying, you'll keep coming back again and again and again and everytime you do you'll think, "Son of a bitch. He was right again."

Specifically teach yourselves about wave states. The entire universe can accurately be described in wave states. Everything is coherence, boundary conditions, phase locking, coupling and decoupling, entrainment, etc. inside of a unified substrate. All of it.

>>42439200
>annoyingly pedantic
Sorry man. I'm being specific and guarded with my terms because I don't want there to be any level of confusion about what I'm indicating. The pedantry is doing double duty. It's for 3rd party viewers and witnesses. I know it's annoying.

>>42439111
Thank you anon very insightful

>>42439230
Some of them.

Some of the UFOs have pilots. Some don't. Some are AI piloted. Some are human. Some are non-human. Some are not even technological craft. Some are celestials. Some are thought-forms. There is no ultimate way to know what is actually in the craft or if there even is anything in the craft.

Even if it descended down and an occupant exited and stood right in front of you, there is not even a way to be able to tell if that is a purely manifested physical being. Even if you touch it and physically speak to it, it still might only be manipulating your mind. Since there are so many potential answers to what they could or might be, none of them can be trusted. The only way you could actually know what is happening in a situation such as that is if you personally designed the craft and engineered the situation.

And keep in mind, this is not a dodge or refusal to answer. Even something as mundane as, "this pencil disappeared" has no less than 12 explanations for how it could have happened. And then if you include the possibility that some other conscious force such as a spirit moved or manipulated the item, then it branches off again. How did the spirit move the item? Did it actually move it? Did it manipulate your consciousness? If it did move the item, what was the actual mechanistic route they took to moving it?

Ultimately, at that point, "The pencil vanished," becomes the only thing you can even say about it. It's a low resolution conclusion to the fact of saying something happened and we saw the result but we don't know exactly how it happened in that particular instance, even if we know all possible ways that it could have happened.

>>42439260
So how do we learn to do the cool psi stuff?

>>42439286
The ancients had pretty good protocols for this. Starts with purification of the vessel to remove decoherence in your physical body. Fasting, sunlight exposure, grounding/earthing (to stabilize your bioelectric field), internal silence, rightness of thought, stopping self referential spiraling, etc. You can dig into older protocols mentioned by the Advaita Vedantans, the Tibetan monks, the Catholic monks, the Desert fathers, potentially the suffi muslims, the Greeks, and the Hindus that reported siddhis. Those are all of the traditions that I'm aware of that had the highest levels of success, which would seem to indicate their protocols are better than the rest.

These are all designed to create a smooth field condition around your body which translates to lower levels of dissonant modulation.

You ultimately want to achieve a stable regime across left and right brain that allows for a harmonic regime between them where they operate as a single unit that you can turn on and off at will. A falsifiable way to know if you're doing this correctly is to get EEG feedback on your brain. waveform readout will show you if they're operating syncratically or not, but this is expensive and unnecessary. You want your entire body operating in unison.

If you consider your brain as an antenna, you are ultimately fixing the antenna physically, reducing your own noise floor, which allows for greater signal input and output without distortion, then you're using your own will to subtly modulate it until you lock onto whatever it is you want to lock onto. Then, you are able to remotely lock onto any pattern that exists anywhere in the Aether. Time and distance have zero relevance, since all things and all possible things are merely standing wave configurations or transverse perturbations of the substrate.

But it is difficult and will take some time. Most people do not feel the juice is worth the squeeze even if they know for certain it is possible.

>>42439333
wow nice answer

>>42438906
When will I find my beloved. Will I find her, will she find me or are we to meet on auto pilot, no effort required.
What is it that I need to do and for that instance, my brother. What are we to do given our predicament?(you would know since you claim to have answers)

>>42439231
>Keep asking. I'm happy to answer.
Sweet. To keep things on the practical side, my current task i gave to myself is learning astral projection but i am making very little progress . I read numerous books on the subject but each one says something different and i can only try one method at a time and it is difficult to determine if the method im attempting is false or im just haven't stuck with it long enough.
So i will ask you, how can someone teach themselves how to astral project? Or if you feel a book already explain how better than you can write up please recommend it.

>>42439354
Sorry, I have mechanistic explanations and ontological explanations for what the universe is and how it works. I don't have specific explanations for you in particular or on politics, predictive future events, direct mathematical equations in the form of a unified field theory, information on past events, insider knowledge, etc.

However, you yourself can actually know those things or reasonably indicate those things for yourself if you deeply wanted to know and implemented the practices in my other post (which I'm also about to expand on). If I wanted to give you those answers, I would have to do those practices and then give you the answers, which themselves would only be a rough probability, not a definitive, "this exact thing will happen at this exact time with zero doubt."

>>42439374
Your body is the dense biological interface. Your mind is localized consciousness operating through patterned information. Your soul is the coherent standing-wave identity-pattern that persists underneath the waking body-state.

You may need the purification/vessel work from the other post first. Reduce internal noise, stabilize attention, clean up thought, calm the body, and get yourself into a more coherent regime. Some people can project easily. Others cannot even reach the required state because their system is too noisy.

All astral projection depends on one basic condition. The body has to shut down while consciousness remains aware. Every method is just a different way of getting to that condition.

Astral projection happens when the conscious reference point decouples from the physical sensory interface without losing coherence. If you do not have enough coherence, no method will work for long. You will either fall asleep, panic, get excited, or snap back into the body.

The practical training is maintaining lucid awareness before sleep, during sleep, and immediately after waking. Lucid dreaming often becomes common before stable projection.

Dream journaling helps because it strengthens memory across state changes. Meditation helps because it lowers internal noise. If you become too internally noisy at any point, you collapse the state. Don’t get excited. Don’t force anything. Stay quiet, stable, and aware even when you start feeling the vibrations, extreme excitement, fear, pleasure, etc.

And probably the single greatest advice is to get as much sunlight as you can. Get sunrises and sunsets constantly. Place your bare feet on the Earth while you are getting sun. Expose as much skin as you can. This is entraining your entire bioelectric field to the proper regime. Do not look at any artificial light for at least two hours before bed. This artificial light is utterly destroying your circadian rhythm, even brief glances at your phone.

>>42439374
>>42439413
>>42439333

Further, attempt this in pitch black if possible. All incoming information is disruptive to stillness. Light is an active perturbation entering the body/brain/interface. It is an unnecessary information stream while you are trying to reduce noise and stabilize the reference point. At most, use dim moonlight or a candle if you need to see (small flame has low lux value). This is why people "halllucinate" in sensory deprivation chambers. They're not hallucinating, they're in an ideal theurgic environment.

This also applies to psi. Psi works better in contained conditions because the system has fewer competing inputs. Less light, less sound, less motion, less emotional charge, less inner narration. You are lowering the noise floor.

Psi and astral projection are not fundamentally separate. They are both awareness extending beyond the normal body-locked sensory frame. Psi is usually weak signal reception or transmission. Astral projection is a stronger shift of the conscious reference point. Same basic mechanics. Reduce noise, stabilize coherence, then reach or receive through field-relation.

Your own thoughts are also noise. Trying hard to connect usually creates distortion because you are filling the channel with self-generated signal. The correct effort is quiet intent, not strain. Hold the target lightly, become still, and let the signal arrive without forcing it into whatever you want it to be. It's a very delicate balance and it is very easy to mess up. You need intention to connect to a target, but intention and thought themselves are a problem for signal distortion. You only need the bare minimum intention and target reference to be able to harmonically lock with your target, as the coupling mechanism is done through signal purity and phase alignment rather than force of will.

>>42438906
I am unable to astral project. I've tried so many things. I want to heal my body and then astral project, or astral project and then heal my body.
How? What's the most foolproof method?

>>42439171
>linear thinkers are so funny. If they can’t reduce it to mechanics it doesn’t exist
nonlinear explanations require a mechanism of information transfer

>>42439205
>What is the non-linear truth then?

What he is getting at is that there are modes of information transfer where ordinary linear cause and effect stop being sufficient. That does not mean “no mechanism.” It means the mechanism is not billiard-ball causality. It is wave relation.

Linear causality says A happens, then B happens, then C happens.

Field causality says A, B, C, observer, timing, attention, coherence, and boundary condition can all belong to one coupled event-structure. In that kind of system, it may not be possible to isolate one part and say “this alone caused that.”

Psi works this way. Noetic understanding works this way. Precognition works this way. The information is not moving from point A to point B through ordinary space like a thrown rock. It is accessed through phase relation in a continuous substrate. So you can get states where the answer arrives before the question, a future state is perceived from the present, or the perception of a possible future affects the choices that make it happen or prevent it. If you see an event before it occurs, then act in a way that causes it, did you cause the event, or did you perceive the future where it had already occurred? That is the nonlinear truth.

Not “logic is fake.”

The truth is that reality is relational before it is sequential. Cause and effect are real, but the deeper layer is field coupling, coherence, and information relation. Humans operate in a bounded and closed off system that protects us from the nonlinear layer of reality while still being subject to it. Linear logic and understanding is primary only from our perspective. Nonlinear beings do not experience reality in the same way. Noetic/Theurgic states are definitionally nonlinear and he's right to say that linearity is closer to an illusion.

>>42439380
I'm the guy who talked about healing and not being able to project. I hadn't seen this post. Thank you.

Who I am?

>>42439679
And what I am going to do?

>>42439679
>>42439843
Given what I know specifically about you, which is nothing, the only thing I can definitively say is that you're (probably) a soul, made out of the unified conscious substrate.

And what you're going to do is continue to exist in the form of a configuration of that substrate until you shed your physical body. Then you will persist in a spectrum of somewhere between ultimate evil and ultimate good until something intentionally decoheres your soul pattern, leading to the ultimate dissolution back into the substrate, which would be the end of your localized concept of your own self, which would be the closest genuine form of death conceivable. You might be the one to decohere yourself and wipe your pattern. Someone else might do that for you. And as you approach the end, you will either be torn to shreds in a horrific way until you reintegrate or you will enter into a blissful state of high coherence, potentially until you reintegrate.

Both sides lead to the same place ultimately if you take them to their absolute limit. One just sucks. The other is great. And if you want to get off Mr. Bones' wild ride, that's not an option. The best you can do is losing your sense of self in a memory wipe event.

At which point, you will know absolutely nothing. And you will stay there in timeless infinity as a fully unified whole until the absolute moment you act or begin to know anything. At which point, you will be formed into another soul. And this will continue unless you pick a spot and stay there and are able to stop your individuated soul pattern from being destroyed.

And you will repeat this for eternity.

>>42439909
Are you absolutely certain of everything you have just said? if you knew me, would you be absolutely certain? and if you were, and the opposite happened, what would you say then?

And what about you?
what is your fate? is it the same? or are you already in the stage of stopping your individuated soul pattern from being destroyed?

If someone here would like to know you, would you let them?

Don't answer if you don't want to.

>>42439929
>Are you absolutely certain of everything you have just said?
Yeah. It can't be any other way. I don't need to know you to know what will happen. This only does not apply if I'm talking to some sort of language model or something, which is already not alive.

My fate is the same. This applies to all souls across the universe. I have not directly done work to attempt a greater coherence of my soul, which is foolish really, but I should probably be spending time doing that. I'm just more focused on formalizing the knowledge itself, which I may publish at some point. It would take quite a long time to formalize it all. I have enough to write dozens of books of hundreds of pages each. I wouldn't even be able to post all of the different categories of things I would be writing about in a single post, as just the list of categories alone would consume the entire word count.

>If someone here would like to know you, would you let them?
Absolutely not. It is way too risky to give out any personal information on here. I would only communicate through an anonymity layer.

>>42438906

What are . . .

>>arch-magi

Or

>>godminds

>>42439957
Those are not terms I would use without defining them first.

The title itself is ultimately meaningless, as anyone can simply call themselves that, but if they actually mirrored what the title would seem to suggest, it would be a human or human adjacent consciousness that has gained unusually high command over symbolic, noetic, and field mechanisms. Not stage magic. Also doesn't mean they can fling fireballs or whatever. It means someone who understands how intention, symbol, will, coherence, timing, relation, and field-state interact, then can deliberately use those relations. A real arch-magus would not just know rituals. Ritual is the user interface. The real ability is understanding the mechanics underneath the ritual. At the highest level, someone may have even transcended their own localized consciousness to have merged with a larger system, leaving the human vessel or integrating it into a much larger hivemind-like network.

A godmind (an individuated pattern) would be a much larger coherent consciousness-pattern. Not to be confused with THE god mind. More like a high-order intelligence with enough coherence, scale, continuity, and self-relation that it can function as a governing attractor for lesser minds or worlds. The difference is mostly scale and coherence. A normal human mind is a localized consciousness-pattern. An arch-magus is a localized mind that has learned to deliberately interface with deeper field mechanics. A godmind is a vast coherent mind-pattern that may operate beyond ordinary biological embodiment and influence entire symbolic, psychic, civilizational, or planetary tracts.

Both are possible if consciousness is substrate-level and mind is only localized modulation of it. Very weird. Potentially horrifying depending on what someone is anchored to. Would not attempt.

>>42438906
How to levitate at home?

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>>42440003

Interesting, you wouldn't by chance know what these black and white tendrils are suppose to represent in this above image?

Any idea what they might be if their accompanied by a bright golden light?

>>42439949
So you're old, and you're approaching this fate.

"If you knew me, would you be absolutely certain? and if you were, and the opposite happened, what would you say then?"

I see you've not answered this part. That's okay.

>>42440068
Either build an "anti-gravity" device or become an enlightened monk.

Tech route is described earlier in this thread. You would need an enormous amount of energy in order to pull it off for any massive effect. But you can induce bodily coherency through back-emf harvesting and continually discharging the "negentropic" type of charge (dielectric centripetal convergence) into yourself, which has the same functional effect as the monk route. They're doing the same things in different ways. Electrical concept is to use extremely sharp rise and decay times on a tightly controlled circuit. You run a circuit and then when it shuts off, the field produced around the wires/coils collapses. When it collapses, you open another adjacent circuit and capture the collapse into that secondary circuit. You never allow the two to interfere. When one is powered on, the other is powered off and not open to receiving the expanding field, only the collapsing field. Discharging that into yourself very safely and slowly over time. It will be a blue/green electricity. If you get shocked, it will feel cold. It reverses disorder. It recoheres you. Might not be powerful enough to actually induce levitation, but if monks can levitate through recohering into a higher ordered state, you can achieve the same effect technologically. Yes, an actual enlightenment inducing machine.

You might need to construct a UFO craft for legitimate levitation, but that's almost impossible without millions of dollars laying around.

Monk route requires potentially decades of commitment. Only a few reported cases of actual monks flying. One reported case in the catholic monk lineage was of a man that was witnessed flying during mass. That seems to be the most extreme case recorded. 200ish witnesses. A few other monks levitate lightly maybe a few inches off the ground. These are essentially your only two legitimate routes.

Here is an example of such a device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pd0czx7X0Q

>>42440142
I don't get much into occult esoteric symbology. I wouldn't know about the tendrils. The checkered patterning appears to be some sort of free-masonic thing. I THINK it has to do with the polarity of being inside of a lived experience. Good and Evil. The tendrils seem to be reaching toward a symbol, which I'm presuming is supposed to be a person, having all of the divine aspects within them, probably indicating a sovereign individual. The tendrils coming out of the checkered patterning are likely referring to mechanisms of demiurgic control. Those seemingly faceless elements that are continually reaching out to you to try to drag you back into the dialectic of its control realm and flatten you back away from the higher orders of liberated existence. That's my read. Might not be right.

>>42440209
>So you're old
No, I'm fairly young in human lifespan terms. If I knew you, I would not be certain. I know nothing about you. And if I were what? And if the opposite of what happened? What would I say in what such case? I have not answered because the questions themselves were unclear.

>>42440233
I appreciate the answer.

>>42438906
Can our thoughts change reality?

>>42440432
Yes, both directly and by phase shifting yourself into a more preferable reality.

Thoughts are not simply nothingness floating around in your skull. Thoughts, like all other things, are configurations of the Aether. You can intentionally think certain things and this is a reflection of your shifting field state. Being that all things are connected through this Aetheric medium, your thoughts and attention can link to certain objects, concepts, etc., subtly shifting them in certain ways independent of distance. It has a weak effect for a typical person, but in an enormously complex machine such as Earth, even subtle tipping of events in your favor compounds.

At a low level, you can know things you're not supposed to know or intuit certain information.
At a higher level, a human mind can literally induce miracles, conjuring objects directly out of the Aether.

Those are two of the same thing operating at different levels. Same concepts. Your ability to alter things depends on how well you are able to harmonically phase lock your own field to something else. At a full phase lock, you become that thing and can will it to change directly. Most people will never ever do that a single time. It's unrealistic to expect that. Direct alterations to reality should be attempted with several minds that are entrained onto a single intention and physically resonating on the same page. Think in terms of music being played in large gatherings to entrain the group. They should also be operating on the same intent frequency.

Love is mapped to the most harmonic frequency per PK studies. Those operating on a frequency using Love as a carrier wave have a logarithmically greater capacity to harmonize their intentions and affect changes. 8-12 people properly aligned have historically been able to directly manifest things such as coins straight out of the Aether.

SRI international psi studies. Some of the largest ever done.
Remote viewing CIA. Project Stargate. Declassified.

>>42440494
Can I ask where did you learn all of this? so that I can learn too? could I ask you about a person?

>>42440498
See here: >>42440444

Ken Wheeler is your man. Theoria Apophasis. I learned about physics for years wondering about the greater questions until I found his videos and realized he was 100% correct about the structure of reality after looking at all other possible explanations, including and especially from physicists and scholars. I've taken his knowledge, formalized an ontology, and then used his fundamental physics concepts and combined it with my own ontology to be able to derive the nature of existence. The conceptual knowledge layer allows me to understand how things work without math. After consideration of these concepts, there's really not much left that is a mystery. And as far as the fundamental nature of things, there is no mystery left.

I took his understanding much further than probably even he understands. I don't even think he knows what wealth of information he's sitting on. I'm actually surprised he's still alive to be honest. You would figure some spook would have murdered him by now.

>could I ask you about a person?
Go ahead. I'm not sure I would be of much assistance.

>>42438906
What happens do we die? Reincarnation? Eternal recurrence? If the latter, is it always the same, or can it change?

>>42440545
*when we die, sorry

What's actually going on with Space?
It seems to me like scientists were pretty "open source" about space until around Apollo 5 and then there was an extreme vibe shift.
The amount of footage and information released that we got about the Apollo missions, versus what we get now about the entirety of space in general since then, is just weird. It seems like a Chinese water drop torture level of slowness trickle ("oh here's an iPhone shot of the moon here") rather than legitimate interest in educating the public.

>>42440546

See this post below:
>>42439909

Reincarnation is possible and is also covered in this thread. Reincarnation is a forced instantiation of a soul pattern into a specific vessel. Difficult, but technologically plausible. It would seem that this is not a normal occurrence, but is more likely to be a synthetic process. Reincarnation is exceedingly rare or at least rarely remembered and that may be by design.

Containing a soul by creating a forced boundary condition around it will allow you to trap one. If you then phase lock that environment to a receiving environment and amplify the connection, you are forming a two way bridge remotely between those two area. At sufficient coupling and amplitude, those two objects/areas merge into a single continuous wave state. At this point, you are in both locations at the exact same time in a literal sense. By collapsing the bridge, you can end up at one place or another. This is also one possible solution for teleportation as a phased transit bridge. I've heard this has also been done before to horrible results (by humans).

This is the same concept as striking two tuning forks that are tuned to the same frequency. Strike one from far away. Bring it closer to the second one, which you did not strike. The second one will start vibrating as a result of them being harmonically tuned. This is the same concept, only with sound waves rather than fundamental substrate wave based geometry.

>>42440559
>What's actually going on with Space?
I can't be certain about why the institutions are so cagey about space, but I have a good idea in general. It's utterly teeming with ET life. I don't know if it is true or not, but on one of the moon missions it was reported the astronauts encountered ET on the moon that made it abundantly clear that we were not allowed to be there. Simply put, we are not allowed to leave Earth. There was also the recent study (astronomy glass analysis) showing that at any given time there were at least 10,000 UFOs around Earth. That was BEFORE we had any satellites in space.

Why are they weird about it? Probably multiple reasons. We are likely the subject of several different ET civilizations. It's likely we are under quarantine because we are not yet mature enough to enter outer space.

Why is NASA and the entire black project community so weird about UFOs and physics? Because the energetic density of the unified substrate is so great that if anyone was able to 100% take advantage of the amount of energy in the space inside of an "empty" coffee cup and they weaponized it, it would boil off all of the oceans across Earth several times over. It's a planetary security issue, which is why the ET are so interested in monitoring us as we begin to enter into the age of field tech. If we misuse it, we could kill everyone on Earth and potentially spill that out onto other planets.

It would also be the end of human civilization as we know it. You would never be able to control a populace if they had infinite throughput energy devices. The actual ramifications if your enemies or citizens figured out the Unified Field concept is enormous. Hundreds of trillions of dollars would be lost in future profit. Materialism becomes untenable. You can't then trick people into being dopamine slaves. They could develop weapons to destroy anyone they wanted arbitrarily.

And then there is the demonic control layer, which is another can of worms.

>>42440559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0lF6FegLco
my grandma was allegedly a famous psychic. she taught Darryl Anka how to use it. he then went on to work on movies, a visual effects artist. interestingly, each movie seems to have a main plot point straight from my life.
yes, even so specific as firing a gun through my own upper arm to hit someone.

under my silver lake, gradient descent. above theirs, mysterious fractal zig zag

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>>42440233
>The checkered patterning appears to be some sort of free-masonic thing.

Ooh its not a Mason thing, it's the tendril that actually looks like it . . . Its not a euphemism . . . I saw one of those tendrils once, as crazy as that sounds, you can belive me or not, and their somehow related to the concept of the arch-magi and/or godmind thing.

I think the Masons use it because of the tendril not the otherway around

So Masons use that imagery because of the tendrils . . . The tendrils are something real


It's used by more than a few groups to . . . Alawites seem to have it, also Ying and Yang etc.

But thanks for your input fren

>>42440582
>forced instantiation of a soul pattern into a specific vessel
Are we all souls trapped in human bodies? Are thoughts projected/forced upon us?

>>42440629
Thank you

>>42440934
>Are we all souls trapped in human bodies?
In a mild sense, yeah. Souls themselves are not inherently contained within our bodies. Souls are nothing more than a configuration of the Aether. They are a combination of standing waves, transverse wave components, and torsional longitudinal stabilized perturbations that form a complex system into a coherent singular seeming entity.

Our bodies are more or less antennas. Consciousness is sharpened and channeled into a subjective personal experience through our bodies, which serve as an interface layer. You are building your soul pattern (described above) that exists in a different mode compared to your fully physically manifested body. When your body is shed, what remains is the soul pattern you have built upon death.

As for thoughts...Some thoughts are projected or forced upon us. Some thoughts are generated almost entirely by our own soul patterning. Some exist as a sudden resonance with other things. Some are produced by the body itself. Some are not even thoughts at all, some are interactions with separate patterned entities. There are likely more than 10 things that thoughts could be at any given time. It becomes impossible to tell which ones are from what origin. This is a problem with thought, which itself operates in a noetic layer of understanding (see the nonlinear post here)

>>42439588
“nonlinear explanations require a mechanism of information transfer”
“Require” is clearly too strong a word but you’re otherwise not incorrect in your underlying meaning of assertion. Nothing is required, nothing is promised

>>42439218
“No math was present or is present in any of my posts.”
If that’s what you think than you don’t know what math is. Common skill issue

>>42439205
>>42439588 “what he is getting at…”
Very precise explanation of the imprecise. No notes. Some might find the remaining mystery unsatisfying from a rigor perspective but in reality if you’d attempted to apply more rigor to the unknowns than you did you’d have been wrong, as paradoxical as that might seem to some, it’s actually not paradoxical at all.

>>42440494
>phase shifting yourself into a more preferable reality.
How is this done? I always thought shifting would fake but if you claim otherwise I would love to know how.

>>42441190
The methods are very similar to what you'll find in any manifestation protocol. The reasoning is simple.

Your body and soul configuration can be thought of as a wave state. By altering your thoughts, you subtly alter your phase state. You project your mental state out into the Aether. If you allow yourself to continually hold a particular thought in your mind for an extended period of time, you are essentially setting yourself up as a persistent stable attractor in an ever shifting reality. This will subtly (or not so subtly) shift things around you as you become mutually attracted to your object of interest or type of reality you want.

That's where most people stop. But if you are an antenna, you would naturally want a good antenna. ALL magick practices depend on how well your antenna is set up. I'll say it again and again. Purify the vessel. Remove negative thoughts. Reduce incoherence through the means described in other posts here. Entrain and stabilize your field through sun exposure with bare feet touching the ground with as much skin as you can expose. The more coherent you are, the easier all magick will become.

And the same thing with the psi. Your own thoughts are noise. Subtly hold the thing into your mind. Allow moments in your life where you entirely do things based on sheer chance. Maybe spin a random number generator to decide what you are going to do before you go out. These moments act as an interface layer between you and the other. You will find yourself naturally drawn to areas and moments for seemingly no reason which will seem to reach out and grip your attention. Follow those. Don't force anything by demanding meaning or acting inauthentically. Meaning should find you. Allow it. Allow intuition to guide you.

And then, if you want an even more stable attractor, select an item to use as a talisman. Imprint your desire into that. Carry it with you. I might say more if people ask.

>>42438906
ok, answer me these. What are those fucking nasty smoke like spiders i see when i wake up after a nightmares and how can i get rid of them

>>42441324
This will be a two or even three part answer. Part 1 is possible taxonomic categories.

Things in the noetic layer typically cannot be easily classified since the list of all of the things that are possible is so large. You'll never actually be able to tell definitively which one of these it belongs to, but here is a potential list of them. This will be long, but the taxonomy list itself is for posterity. This is to give people an idea of how many plausible explanations there are.

1. Hypnopompic bleedthrough. You are waking up before the dream-rendering layer has fully shut off, so nightmare imagery leaks into waking perception.

2. Sleep-paralysis overlay. If you wake frozen, buzzing, pressured, or unable to move, the body-interface is still partly shut down while consciousness is awake. Fear fills the render as spiders, smoke, shadows, bugs, faces, etc.

3. Fear-form. The nightmare creates a charged fear-pattern that persists briefly after waking. Your mind renders the pattern as a smoky spider.

4. Residual nightmare construct. Similar to a fear-form, but weaker. The nightmare created a temporary construct with no independent persistence. It dissipates once the state collapses.

5. Larval thoughtform. Repeated fear, disgust, obsession, and attention can create a small semi-stable noetic form. Spider-form fits predation, crawling intrusion, hiddenness, webbing, and revulsion.

6. Attached parasitic field-pattern. A weak parasite may be feeding on fear, sleep vulnerability, emotional residue, sexual residue, or repeated nightmare loops.

7. Dream parasite surfacing. Some things interact more easily in dreams because the normal sensory lock is loosened. Waking lets you catch the tail-end of the contact.

8. Shadow-field compression. Your system renders low-coherence dissonant residue as smoke, bugs, spiders, or crawling shadows. The actual field-state may not literally be spider-shaped.

>>42441374

9. External dissonant tract. You may be tuning into a room, house, object, or local environmental field condition after nightmares. More likely if it happens in one place.

10. Ancestral or family-line fear-pattern. A nightmare can open an inherited or old soul/body pattern. The spider is the carrier-image for the deeper pattern.

11. Egregoric attachment. Horror content, porn, doomscrolling, drugs, occult fear loops, or obsessive imagery can tune you into collective lower patterns that render as nasty forms.

12. Body-interface noise. Stress, exhaustion, adrenaline, poor sleep, inflammation, or waking instability can create sensory noise that the mind translates into external imagery.

13. Peripheral visual artifact. Darkness plus waking-state instability can create smoke, crawling shapes, or movement artifacts. The mind then organizes them into spider-form.

14. Low-coherence discarnate fragment. A degraded or fragmented consciousness-pattern may render as crawling smoke if it lacks a stable identity-form.

15. Actual nonhuman micro-entity. Not necessarily demon. Could be lower-density subtle “wildlife” or a small scavenger/predatory thing drawn to fear-discharge.

16. Warning-symbol from the deeper self. It may not be external. Spider imagery can symbolize entanglement, parasitism, hidden fear, webbing, intrusion, or something crawling through your field.

17. Possession-adjacent probing. Not full possession. More like a weak external pattern testing the boundary after nightmares. More likely if it brings pressure, commands, personality shift, recurring dreams, or worsening fear.

18. Astral wildlife. Not human dead, not demon, not thoughtform. Just lower-density subtle organisms that become visible during threshold states.

Is it possible to manifest a bad fate for someone and are there consequences?

>>42441411
It is possible. There will likely be consequences.

Check the other manifestation post in here.

If you are intentionally tuning yourself into a particular phase state that wants ill for someone else, you yourself will not be unaffected. You would be intentionally choosing to inhabit a regime in which your phase state is constantly aligned toward thoughts of malice, which serves as an attractor for malice. It will be mirrored in your world and you will attract ill fortune to yourself. You can get what you want, but it will cost you. Very Monkey's Paw type of thing.

Not only will the world itself turn against you, but you may even open the door for demonic presences to invade, especially if you're a typically emotional person. I would not recommend engaging in the dark arts.

Stop replying to this AI faggot.

>>42441430
What is astral wind, or, what is the reason that there is a felt "density" when astral projecting, particularly close to onself?

Telekinesis, can I do it?

Do you know about paticcasamuppada (conditionally arisen phenomena) and nibbana (the unarisen element) taught by Shakyamuni Buddha? If so, what do you know about it?

Have you heard about Amida's vow as manifestation of paticcasamuppada's not-self compassion for all beings which liberale beings when they call for it?

Do you personally know Jesus, God, the holy spirit, and if so, do you know what their agenda is when they give the holy spirit to those who ask for it?

Thank you for answering. This is a very interesting thread.

>>42438906
Are you one of my Zionist secret cell assets?

>Luminous when perturbed
would like to learn about the nature of this luminescence, the nature of sun, the nature of light in relation to that supereleastic conscious material, the nature of flow

please note : haven't read the replies to the thread yet, so if the question is already answered please point out

>>42440532
Thank you. I find your honesty and transparency more noble than any knowledge you have given us, not to make the merit small, but I think the honesty and transparency are far worthier.

I've been foretold that I will one day wake up as a child again, but with all my power and memories and life until then, and augmented things, and be perpetually young, and I am told that I am already perpetually young, how will this work?

I've been naturally laughed at for this, but you didn't laugh at my questions.

I can bring a person turned into ash back to life? even if briefly? someone I loved left us, I get that, in my very own personal belief at least, he's in heaven enjoying God, I don't wish to interfere with the progress of this person nor take him out of his bliss against any greater power's will, I am glad for their ascension and I love them still, but I really want to see him again in body, it only occurs to me in prayer or in dreams, that I am with him, I could ask him to come again in a new body even for a day to greet us and be able to tell him we love him, that I love him. How can I see him again, physically, without disturbing him? of course, he cannot be disturbed, he is in peace, but.... how? how can I bring the dead back without interfering with something sacred?

Because of what happened to him, this night I realized it's my fate to bring the dead back, to cast away death, or to save from death, and don't think I say this out of some pretention, but what has happened to me with this person that I love has hurt me greatly, and I don't want anyone else to lose their loved ones as I have. I don't want anyone to endure death or to be cast away permanently from life, I want to tell them how to come back even if to just say hi, just for love.

How?

I've been dreaming with beings non stop, a person in particular, whom I haven't met for years but it's my belief now that I have met, however they're currently away and unresponsive, yet I still dream them

>>42438906
Is immortality real and attainable by human beings? How would a human being attain it?

>>42442056
And in these dreams we talk and they say things to me, this loved one of prophecy, and in cards I am shown their status, even in real life miracles I've experienced after being warned about them in dreams, the elements of nature tell me of their status.

How do I know I am correct? some forces of bad tell me that I am deceived, that it was never real, and yet all around me tells me of the status of this person, as if the universe talked for them.

Am I correct? are they the one?

>>42441313
I would like you to say more, this is very interesting. Thank you.

>>42442062
Also, dead historical figures come to me in dreams, and they tlel me things and show me things, what's going on? I assume this means they remain individual spirits and hold their coherence, like my deceased loved ones, how? when they were normal men and women. What should I do with these omens?

I've been up to a work, where the character becomes basically omnipotent, and the more things that happen in my life, the more I unironically start believing in the powers I granted this character, and his goals, and I feel the drive in me to.. live out his life more or less, and achieve what he does.

Demons, you believe in demons? does this imply you recognize Jesus Christ even if you said no religion or boxed thinking?

Demons fear me, they besiege me on the daily, they loathe me, they have tried to possess them but I have rebuked them. Demon possessed people threaten me with their chosen demons but I make them turn away, the demons even come out to speak to me and mock their vessel, and say I'll never cast them out of the vessel, but I torment them anyway.

What does this mean in your eyes?

What about Satan?
do you believe in Satan?
I've had a few experiences with him, and I've denied him every single time.

What the hell is going on? why is the universe on my ass all of a sudden? glowies and whores and hylics and general drone people have also become greatly distressed by my presence and words, which has always been the case, but now more than ever they do anything they can to gaslight me and try to make me "not be a thing", what drives them so mad?

>>42438906
do vampires exist? where? can you tell me about them? how does a human become one?

Is there gonna be an alien invasion? Are the aliens benevolent or malevolent?

>>42441618

Just woke up, guys. I'm answering more questions for all of today until roughly 11pm Eastern Standard Time. And once we hit that point, I will likely not make another thread

>astral wind
I'm unfamiliar with the term, but just from the sound of it, it would be a continual conduit of energetic flow within the Aether. This would not be a stabilized field geometry that would produce mass as we know it, but a dielectric flow gradient caused by bodies that do have density. For example, celestial alignments or the Earth's own toroidal hypertrochoidal interference pattern. The Aether flows according to such "ley lines" as a natural consequence of convergent and divergent inflows and outflows. This naturally creates patterns and prefered axes of movement. See the OP pic. So astral wind would solely be either a magnetic divergence or a dielectric convergence. It would not be the point at which those two modes meet, which would force a tension in the medium, which would give rise to mass or a felt sense of turbulence.

The felt density near your own body is due to the field geometry of your body itself. It is a stabilized field geometry configuration. The reason it FEELS like it is potentially more dense than other things is because of phase alignment. If it were producing a coherent signature and you phase matched with it, you would pass through it, become it, or be pulled in by it.

>>42440983
they get weaved into matter when youre being formed and growing in the womb
your flesh suit is actually a bunch of elves.

>>42441884
Yes, but you likely won't get much in terms of results alone. When people speak of tulpas, minor spirits, poltergeists moving objects, etc. They are very likely causing the changes that they then attribute to those other beings. It is quite rare for people to willingly and knowingly use telekinesis by themselves and often the magnitude of the effect is very small. Some of the more impressive telekinesis from a single person has been spinning a small paper lightly balanced on the head of a needle under controlled conditions. That gives you an idea of how rare and small the magnitude of effect is.

To move a large object, you would need a large group of people.

Tibetan monks have been witnessed building large walls made of huge chunks of stones by launching them. To get that effect, you would need a large group, all physically entrained, all with focused intent, on the same carrier frequency, all coherent, with a specific object of interest to which they direct their attention. Those are the elements needed for large scale manipulation of reality. This applies to all magick. A coherent group of a few million or so that attempted to alter conditions across all of Earth would likely be able to radically alter everything on the planet or even directly cause a solar flare if they wanted to. The reason is that they are acting as a unified phased array antenna. Their intentions are constructively interfering with each other. The gains on a proper harmonic frequency, specifically love as a frequency (sri international extrapolations) are NOT linear.

Let me repeat. Love as a carrier frequency does not lead to linear gains, but exponential, or potentially even quadratic in nature. So 10 people attempting the same thing with zero coherence might get 10 units of work. But 10 people harmonically tuned will get 100 units of work.

>>42441951
I'm sorry, if I answer these questions the thread may devolve into people arguing about religions.

>>42441979
no

>>42442033

Skip to 10:53 seconds in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ys_yKGNFRQ

The electromagnetic wave is really a coaxial circuit. There is a divergence. That divergence continues until the elastic medium forces it back inward. Then it centripetally collapses into a single point, which is where the illumination is most present. Once the saturated area becomes dense enough, it centrifugally forces the wave back out and the illumination disappears

The nature of the luminescence actually has no fundamental answer. WHY is it luminous? The only possible answer to that questions is that it is luminous because it is its nature to be that way. It is what it is because that simply what it is. Could it have been another way? Potentially, but this is what we have and the luminosity itself is simply the ultimate reality for whatever reason. And the question itself is already ultimate. The Luminiferous Aether, as Tesla called it, simply is that way.

When completely unsettled, that is the point where it truly becomes light in its primacy. All illumination you and I see arise from disturbances to that medium. So in a very ironic sense, when there is fundamentally zero movement, and therefore zero perturbed light, there is no luminosity, but there is pure light in its undisturbed essence of being, which nobody can actually ever know or see. Because seeing itself requires an information transfer. And if there is no field of information transmitting, then there can be no knowledge or witness. Because knowing and witnessing already imply a differentiation between self and other. But being in the undisturbed medium means nothing is being exchanged. It is stillness. So that can be no knowing. This is what the Advaitans would call Avidya Agnosis, or, the primordial ignorance.

>>42442932
Thanks, looks like I'll need to start a cult now so I can jerk it with my mind

>>42442056
>>42442062
>>42442077
There's a lot to unpack here, but first I would say you should be extremely cautious about ANY being that approaches you. Human, ET, celestial, thought-form, ancestor, “guide,” angel, demon, anything.

There is fundamentally no way to know whether a being is helpful or harmful purely from appearance, beauty, intensity, light, telepathy, emotional warmth, or the fact that it seems “higher.” Those are presentation layers. They are not proof of moral alignment.

Celestials can deceive you, and they will if you give them an opening. The main thing many of these beings want is attention. When you stabilize your attention toward them, you feed them coherence. That does not automatically mean every contact is malicious, contact has energetic cost.

The biggest green flag is a being that refuses worship, refuses dependency, refuses ego-inflation, and consistently directs your attention beyond itself toward the highest possible Good, Truth, God, Logos, or whatever term you use for the supreme ordering principle.

A being that says, “Do not worship me. Do not attach to me. Do not make me your identity. Orient yourself toward the highest good,” is safer than a being that keeps making itself the center of the relationship.

Major red flags. A being that:

gives endless prophecy.
gives promises.
tells you that you are chosen, special, superior, or uniquely important.
flatters you.
isolates you from other people.
makes you afraid to question it.
punishes doubt.
demands secrecy for no clear reason.
gives you a mission but keeps the mission vague.
keeps you in a constant state of anticipation.
tells you to wait for some future event that never quite arrives.
makes itself emotionally necessary to you.
claims authority but does not submit itself to anything higher.
uses beauty, light, or bliss to bypass your discernment.
encourages obsession.
gives you symbolic crumbs forever but never produces moral clarification, humility, discipline, or truth.

>>42442543
>Is there gonna be an alien invasion
Can't say for certain. Nobody can.

>Are the aliens benevolent or malevolent?
This depends entirely on the view you're using and which ones you're talking about. There are an infinite number of species in the universe and we have likely been visited likely by somewhere between dozens or hundreds of different species over the past 130 years that could all have a different agenda.

I do know this, however. In order for them to be able to get here, they would need advanced field propulsion craft. In order to to that, they would need to know about the Aether, know its energetic densities, and then they would very quickly find out that it is conscious. From that, they could extrapolate the nature of it. They would very quickly know everything I've said in this thread. None of them would be atheists. All of them would know the nature of ultimate good and evil. And if they knew that, and they had essentially infinite resources already to be able to utilize for their own materialistic needs, then why would they choose to be evil?

Field knowledge threatens entire planets and star systems. It would make sense that the harmonious beings, due to their nature of wanting order, love, companionship, etc. Would naturally form a large coalition that would protect each other and prevent destruction. Not that they necessarily care if a small species fights each other, but they would naturally want to protect the conditions in which innocent life could bloom into an adult species, since their goal would be to spread that Logos to the universe at large while protecting themselves and others.

I would say there are quadratically more harmonious species than there were aggressive or outright evil ones. But that does not mean they do not exist and that does not mean the selfish ones are not here already. But most of them, as a consequence of the fundamental nature of the universe itself would be overwhelmingly good natured.

>>42442056
I would not attempt to bring anything back from the dead. It is extremely unlikely this would occur, but even if it did, there is actually no way at all for you to be able to know that whatever entered was this person.

I would also not attempt to communicate with them. There is absolutely no guarantee that if you reach out to them, what you're talking to is them. Anything can answer. That is already an opening for you to be taken advantage of by demons or other entities.

You'll see him again when you pass.

>>42442062
>How do I know I am correct?
You can't. You can never be certain. You can only attempt discernment as described in the other post. There is no guarantee of safety.

>Am I correct? are they the one?
I cannot answer that question. And no being can answer that for you.

>>42442077
I would attempt severing contact with dream beings that are portraying themselves as historical figures. They are almost certainly not them, but masquerading.

Those demons might be agitating you because they know you are subject to strong belief, which can be taken advantage of. The fact that they are already on you indicates you gave them an opening and they took it.

Satan, metaphysically speaking, is the inversion of the good. The adversary. The part of yourself that is tempted into materialism. The divergent magnetic. It is what keeps you tethered to the world. It that which is dissonant, nonharmonious, destructive, that which denies beauty and order at every level of existence. It can't and shouldn't be flattened into a single horned figure. It is similar to the Logos. It is the dissonant principle of the universe. It is the price to pay for life. It is wholly required for manifestation. It is the absence of the Logoic principle. It is the movement away from it. It is the denial of the ultimate order, while still being subject to it, because the principle itself is already wrapped into being, thereby requiring it and denying it to itself and others.

>>42443115
But you're absolutely certain of what you say, how can I not be of what I've said too?

My deceased one just appeared in a dream I had just now... I know it was him, he was as gentle, kind, and good to me as always. He told me to behave, it was like seeing him irl, it was so real.

I am also certain it's the historical figures. Like you said, they don't just die and that's it, if they maintain coherence they make it.

And if the dead cannot be brought back, how did Jesus revive? how did Lazarus revive? I am sorry I bring this up when you said we shouldn't, but to me.. that did happen.

>>42443030
How can I find the real Logos then? the real "God" that is not the red flags you describe here but that is yet real? I feel I was briefly in a quest for it, and I have pin pointed and described it, in my story for example, I was about to make it about what you describe but I shifted for a moment and described the "Logos" (although I tried to describe something even beyond that, as I set the Logos as the energy of this maker and not necessarily the maker itself which I concealed)

How can I find this Logos and see what it has to say to me and not from the assorted beings who are not to be trusted? I am sure there is a plan for me, but like you said, I should not have it hijacked. So I want to find out the truth for me, beyond making it for myself and in my own individual coherence, and if I can't, do I just Nietzcheanly make my own plan for me like that as with the mantras for individual coherence you said?

>>42443278
>But you're absolutely certain of what you say
Yes, these are deeply logically bounded extrapolations based on the nature of being. It necessarily follows from logical reduction ad absurdum until you hit metaphysical bedrock. That gives the map. Physics itself explains the mechanics. If it weren't true, there would be at least some level of contradiction or fallacious assumption somewhere, but there isn't. There can't be. They're all accounted for.

I'm not strictly saying that this isn't your loved one. I'm just saying be careful. It is possible that if you're entrained onto their signature, you would be communicating directly with them or at least some aspect of them, whether that be in yourself, some signature floating around in the Aether, or something else.

I'm not saying the dead can't be brought back. I'm saying it would represent an extremely rare occurrence that is likely outside of the bounds of a normal person to be able to do. People do indeed get sent back. Check NDE accounts. Literal miraculous spontaneous returns. One person in particular died for roughly 1 or 2 hours and returned. That is Logoic divine intervention. If you wanted to bring him back, you would need a vessel capable of receiving his signal. So unless he both wanted to come back and also had a vessel, it probably wouldn't happen. In NDE accounts, the vessel is already there and mostly still intact.

The absolute closest you could hope to achieve to set this up would be to have yourself (idk if you're a female or not) or someone close to you have a baby. There is a possibility that if he wanted to enter into that body, he would be able to couple to it. Reincarnation studies often show the reincarnated are typically family members, though not exclusively family. Often also geography bound.

Dr. Ian Stevenson.
UVA school of medicine

>>42443291

The Logos is not merely a being among beings. It is the ordering principle itself.

Its relational mode is truth, order, intelligibility, and lawful coherence. Its subjective experiential signature is pure unbounded agapic love. Not love as sentiment, attachment, eros, friendship, or social warmth. Agape specifically. Self-giving divine coherence.

If you are Christian (you indicated you may be), and you believe Jesus is the Logos manifested in human form, then use Christ as the attention anchor. As the highest addressable image of the ordering principle. The more you contemplate that figure, study him, recognize agapic love in him, and align your own field toward the pattern he represents, the more that image becomes a clean address for the Logos inside your own consciousness. That is the proper use of an icon or sacred figure. It is not idol worship. It is symbolic addressing. The image gives your local mind a stable form through which it can reach toward a principle that is otherwise too high, too abstract, and too unbounded to grasp directly. Also too consider the nature of unbounded selfless agapic love. Treat it exactly the same as you would Jesus in your consideration. Merge their concepts as being one and the same. Soon you will embody it and you will cleanly see what is and what is not that.

So if you want to reach the Logos, do not chase random voices. Anchor attention on the highest known expression of truth, order, love, sacrifice, coherence, and divine intelligibility. For a Christian, that is Christ. Then test everything that answers by whether it conforms to that pattern.

If you do that, you're essentially bypassing everything what I needed to do in order to understand these things. You ultimately don't need to wholly understand the nature of the universe in order to properly align. You do need a stable concept or form to align your intention to. And you need to understand what that thought and form represents and want to align to it.

>>42443385
Thank you. I will.

I am sorry if I am not giving equally worthy replies, I just would like to take in what you've given me silently.

I want to tell you something in the kindest of ways, your message reminds me of the gnostic gospels, what do you say about them? particularly the gospel of Thomas? this agapic love as an ordering principle, reminds me of the Monad, the One, "unknowable", described in gnostic cosmology such as the gospel of Judas or Phillip.

>>42443432
>gnostic gospels
Never read them

>what do you say about them? particularly the gospel of Thomas
This one apparently points toward Monist Emanationism. That kind of text threatened the later institutional church’s preferred external-authority structure. This gospel, in their minds, threatens the authoritarian regime of control. How exactly do you control the thoughts and minds of people that think they are God? If this concept is not properly understood, it leads to New Age type beliefs, which are a trap. Self as sole creator and ultimate moral authority. They wanted that ultimate claim to moral authority and to be the gatekeepers between the individual and God. They don't understand that even in the Emanationist understanding, it demands ultimate moral authority to be real and it is not contained within or defined by the individual.

>this agapic love as an ordering principle, reminds me of the Monad, the One, "unknowable", described in gnostic cosmology such as the gospel of Judas or Phillip.
The undisturbed Aether itself is the One. The polarized expressions of divergence (magnetism) and convergence (dielectricity) are the diadic expression of that One substance. Where the two meet, you have stabilized field geometry, which is the three.

I'm not claiming a specific religion. I'm mapping them to the metaphysics of reality. Many of them circled the same idea. Several of them are arguing past each other to try to communicate this same truth in slightly different ways. A lot of them agree on certain things, but don't even know it. Parable of the 5 blindfolded people touching the elephant. They have a piece and describe the elephant based on what they can feel. And they're not wrong to describe the animal in that way, but they can't see it and they don't know it's an elephant. Ontology + Physics leads you to being able to see the entire elephant and everyone else touching it

>>42443479
If a man were to rule the entire world, and the aether, how would he do it? by being it?
Rene Guenon said such man would have to unify temporal-spiritual power and unite all previous traditions as to bring about the original tradition before break away into many, which to your framework I assume translates to bring about the "unified framekwork" you speak of into a coherent message to all? perhaps simplified or in myth form for all to understand and thus end all debates? the answer to end all answers or to shift into a new era of answer seeking?

>>42442987
> Then it centripetally collapses into a single point, which is where the illumination is most present
I meditated on it after asking the question and had arrived at a similar picture in my mind, thanks, we will arrive at the most central truth..

>>42438906
How can I become a master over myself?
How can I gain the discipline?

Also,
point me a direction to learn something beutiful that would help people? Something that would worth a struggle.

>>42438906
How does one strengthen attention, intent and awareness. Any exercises for it?

>>42443533
There are two levels to this. You asked about ruling Earth and ruling the Aether.

You can't necessarily rule the Aether. It is infinite. It cannot be created or destroyed. The only way you could rule it is by becoming it and then instantiating your will across whatever level you intend to occupy. If you become the One in its entirety, you have given up any sense of self, so you wouldn't be ruling anything. The moment you become aware of anything you would be splitting and returning to manifestation. If you become something that is still manifest, but still extremely highly ordered, you can rule in that area or domain for as long as you can keep yourself harmonically entrained to that particular pattern

To rule Earth in the worst possible way, you would not need to prove a total lie. You would need to reveal enough real truth that people recognize the frame is correct, then capture the interpretation before they understand what it means. That is the true danger of any unified framework, not just an ontological one. But the ontological one is the final boss. And materialism already mostly captured it by convincing people they live in a dead inert universe where things emerge from absolutely nothing

The high version reveals the underlying principle beneath the traditions and restores coherence. The low version weaponizes the same truth. It gives humanity enough evidence to submit, then replaces the meaning with a managed narrative. It controls the interpretation of reality itself. That would be the ultimate psyop. Not pure falsehood, but truth with the heart removed and the meaning replaced. A few things come to mind that are attempting this either truly or allegedly:

Bluebeam
AI as the sole arbiter of truth
A one world religion
Implants that force human cognition into a single hivemind-like consciousness
Controlled narratives spreading along the internet
Absolute faith and trust in any government
Money

>>42443644
>How can I become a master over myself?
>How can I gain the discipline?
Discipline and self-mastery imply that there is a goal that needs to be achieved. As long as you are not achieving that goal or forcing yourself to do certain things, you are losing and therefore lacking in discipline. This is the hard way of thinking about it and doing it, but you can take the hard road.

The easier and better path is to deep a deep introspective analysis of WHY you do certain things. If you find that these things are not actually serving what you want, you can consider them to be antithetical to your own desired way of being. The more you consider, the more it becomes obvious what is actually bad for you in particular. On deepest consideration, you will find that things you ultimately do not want to do, will fade away from you as you are not aligned to them. But this requires stillness for you to be able to audit your own existence.

Seek literal stillness and introspection. Just sit with yourself alone with absolutely nothing to do and watch as you are set upon by 10,000 things that utterly demand your immediate attention, which are meaningless, but demand all of it. Cut them out. True discipline is not forcing yourself to do something. True discipline is the complete and total control over your own attention and your will to align with what you truly want. If something is stealing your attention away from you, you need it gone. If you do not have control over your own attention, you have control over absolutely nothing. You will find peace in that stillness as you stop wanting things. You will find it much easier to do whatever it is you want to do. The goal is not to force action, but exist in such a way where directed action and intention become significantly easier.

For your beauty request, in those moments of stillness, contemplate the highest good you can possibly imagine yourself genuinely doing and the answer will come to you and be specific to you.

>>42443683
There are other posts here about coherence protocols, regarding the sun and grounding. Use those as well as this >>42443750

You ARE already attention, intent, and awareness.

You cannot add those things to yourself. Stillness of spirit is what you want. They can only be modulated by the outside world if you let it. You want to remove interference and decoherence of your self. You gain greater capacity for those things by removing things, not by trying to add them. Remove objects from your physical environment that you do not need or want. Clean your room. Set it to perfect order. Bless and purify it. Imprint peaceful intention upon it. Remove things that trap you emotionally. Reduce exposure to electromagnetic interference. Sleep on a grounded bed and inside of a faraday cage if you are willing and able. Drink purified water after you have blessed it. Stop talking to people that destabilize you. If you hate your job, then find one you don't hate or try to escape the rat race through building continued income streams that support a life that gives you back time and freedom of choice. Stop feeding compulsive media loops.

All of those are means to remove that which is destabilizing you.

Holistic integrative practices for increasing your own coherence through action:

learn and play a musical instrument. This forces mind and body coherence into a unified regime of action.
Play a sport while considering greater questions. Or repeatedly run sports type drills such as punching a heavy bag while you use them as a form of physical meditation.
Stop or reduce listening to lyrical music and only listen to instrumental music. Lyricism flattens or constrains your thinking. Instrumentals allow you to explore harmonic relationships in your own mind through your own interpretive structure without it being imposed by someone else.
Perform yogic practices
Think of the most beautiful things you are possibly able to conceive constantly. This is coherence made visible.

>>42438906
Some of these basic things I intuitively knew when I was a child. What does that mean?

>>42443836
It means children are less locked into the adult survival-interface.

They have not yet been fully imprinted by social conditioning, fear, identity-defense, cynicism, materialist assumptions, status games, and the constant biological demand to survive inside the rules of Earth. So they often remain closer to direct noetic perception. You knew those things because the truth was able to interact with you without false assumptions. It came to you intuitively because you were already psychically receptive when you were young.

They can intuit things adults later learn to ignore, suppress, rationalize away, or reinterpret through approved categories. Most children naturally express joy, openness, trust, wonder, love, play, and freedom of relation. Those are not trivial traits. They are closer to Logos-aligned states than most adult patterns.

Entering Earth and adapting to it introduces heavy modulation. The child learns fear, shame, scarcity, deception, comparison, self-protection, and social performance. Those patterns become noise over the original signal. That is also why children are disproportionately the ones reporting past-life memories, invisible companions, strange perceptions, and psychic sensitivity. They arrive before the interface has fully hardened.

As people approach greater alignment toward a coherent regime, they become more and more childlike. But this is childlike after wisdom. Open, loving, free, truthful, joyful, and unafraid, but with discernment.

>>42443750
Thank you very much anon. This feels great! I will do that now on.

>>42438906
>Eternal with no beginning and no end

If the Universe is infinite then how did an infinite amount of time pass for us to reach this moment?

>>42443831
Thank you. You took your time and effort to reply. Now that you've mentioned blessings. How does one exactly bless things? Are there ways to increase the effects? I usually do that with
1-intent
2-chanting and focus
3- feeling the water with my hands (no touching)

I'd like to start enchanting like a madman. I never really felt like my energy was spent when doing this.

>>42439027
I was having health problems and I was recommended a health practice in my dreams. I followed it because I was desperate at that point. It worked. I checked the symbols of the dream and they are linked to a Greek goddess which I really thought of a lot as a child.
You mentioned any other entities other than the logos are a trap, but I think there are benevolent beings out there who want to help and guide you, not necessarily for your worship.

>>42443711
So through the high version what Guenon said can be achieved? I mean, humanity deserves the truth and to be freed that way. And honestly, wouldn't this unified ontological framework and truth be an ideal one world religion? is the one world religion in itself bad if it is what you say?

>>42444027
Time does not exist. Time is sheerly a measurement that shows the amount of motion in one place compared to another. If there is no movement or information transfer in any way, there is no time.

Time itself is only a measurement. Saying that there must have been an infinite amount of something implies that it is a real thing, but it is not. You are taking conceptual content and asserting them toward an ontological state as a real thing. This is a reification fallacy. This is the same thing as saying that you have twenty pounds in your hand or that you can see thirty inches. Those are measurements against other things, not things in themselves.

>>42444113
I only meant that they are a trap in the sense that they are always less than Logos. Logos itself is perfect. There are absolutely entities that are simply good, but they're not perfect. Mother Ayahuasca comes to mind. These things absolutely do possess the capability to heal you and assist, but they also possess the ability to trick you. They're only a trap in the sense that they could be a fixated center of attention drawing you in to them rather the the highest possible ultimate good.

>>42443711
Out of curiosity, what do you think of AI music and AI as a tool/partner for creation?

>>42444063
You've already got it mostly. Water itself is very easy to bless since it is so easy to alter with your intention. It's very pliable in terms of its magnetic characteristics. Normal people can bless water.

intention, attention, coherence, repetition, time, imprinted form to be used, emotional charge, embodied participation with repetition

Those are the most relevant categories. You can test this and mess around with all of these different categories. Bless the water and then freeze it. You should see beautiful highly coherent snowflake like structures in the ice when you freeze it. Then, do the opposite. Curse the water and then freeze it. You'll see really messed up geometry instead. This is repeatable and rather easy to do.

>>42438955
Perhaps you are intentionally being disingenuous
Talking about the matrix belies the point.

You are removing order as a system of governance
writing it off as a deduction of science
but rather you haven't observed carefully
enough.
It doesnt work as a system going down
but rather coming up from the base chakra.
That is central to the point of what motion is.
That truth is inevitably understood
through the war at the base chakra.
Of love and masturbation.
Which persists up the heart chakra
And that the truth is crowned as a king.
Because thats what a king is.
That they should lead.
And wear their crown with humility.

Pure science is pride because it is an
endless rejection completely of faith.
Understanding is uncovering the answer
in humility that you live.
Beyond hypothetical processes order is
ordained by sacrifice.
Real sacrifice of all the creatures and all
the life.
Stuff of which we should always mind in humility.
Truthfully faith is intelligence.
Peace is the articulation of the natural
philosophy which sits antecedent science
in that it provides the body in concept.
It is the victor over pride to know humility
and Truth.

Truth is a summation to our souls and which
sets forth the natural spring of life.

>>42444233
No, I wouldn't call it bad. It is indeed the truth. If humanity survives over an extended period of time, it will eventually come to those realizations anyway. The truth itself isn't necessarily a problem. But people will weaponize it. And if nobody could deny the truth itself, but the details contained the knowledge that made it meaningful, that's a perfect vector to slip in something awful. I absolutely do not have faith in the regular person in society to be able to extrapolate the consequences and meanings of such a universe.

>>42444364
I agree, the mystery of faith is a mystery that cannot ever be demythified, and it's something necessary in order for any truth to work. An inherent beauty to it all that just cannot be put into words or numbers, that is silent.

>>42444413
Man someone already stole the 42444444 dub, fml. And if this whole truth you have said would be only a part of an even greater framework discovered and/or devised by imagination later, would you still consider it successful?

>>42444479
Well, it's not really possible for there to be anything beyond this which would subsume it if you're talking in the sense of greater or more truths. It's already operating at the level of the fundamental status of being. These are ultimate truths and their rational extrapolations.

I would not care at all of someone else simply started speaking about it. The only thing I actually want credit for is condensing the ontological argument into the shortest possible set of words and communicating the truths so clearly that anyone could understand it. Chris Langan's CTMU is essentially a direct replica of what I would be indicating, but he made his own convoluted language to describe it and then did metaphysics in the form of academic comparison. I don't think he would call it metaphysics, but that's nonetheless what he's doing. Problem is that his explanation is about 47 pages long and nobody understands it. I've got mine currently down to 16 pages in language that anyone would be able to understand. As well as logical defenses against all possible critiques in the form of, "What Must Be Rejected to Deny This Argument."

So I'm not literally the first person ever to formalize this, but I will get my credit under a pseudonym for being the shortest and clearest formalization that everyone can understand.

You use the term 'demon' in several of your posts. How would you describe a demon (outside of the christian folklore)? Or an angel? What about archons?

>>42444688
Glad someone finally asked

A demon is a disembodied, low coherence entity. It does not have mass in the sense of being a fully formed and stabilized field geometry, such as hydrogen, a biological body, or any other coherent material structure. It is a torsional standing-wave entity. Think of it as a stabilized whirlpool in the Aether.

These entities have rejected Logos. They do not participate cleanly in the sustaining order of Logos, so they cannot maintain stable coherence through lawful divine influx. They have to steal coherence indirectly by agitating embodied beings. Their hatred of Logos makes them want to destroy all that is beautiful, innocent, ordered, and alive. They are this way specifically because they have rejected divine order.

They usually cannot directly affect matter on Earth unless they are unusually powerful, or unless they have been granted access through some person, place, ritual, trauma-pattern, obsession, or repeated act of consent. So they operate through subtle influence. They distort thought. They intensify compulsion. They isolate people. They inflate resentment. They encourage desecration...but WHY?

Because thoughts generate an energetic signature. It is Aetheric flux. If you torture something, it is in a distinct state of emotional turmoil. The severity of the emotion is an Aetheric charge potential. This is how they restore their coherence because they deny Logos. They need to feed on the flux to sustain themselves. They attach to misery and suffering to simultaneously feed and desecrate Logos as a concept. They offer knowledge, influence, material gain, etc. None of that means anything to them. They are in constant agony at any time while they are not being fed. Their existence is painful unless they're getting a hit of that delicious flux from whoever gives them attention and pain

You will not find a single verse in the Bible or in Enoch that contradicts this. Those offer bare descriptions. I've given the mechanics.

>>42444688
Angels are highly coherent, high-order intelligences operating under intense dielectric potential. They are not “ghost humans with wings.” They are stabilized, non-biological field beings whose structure is harmonically aligned with Logos.

Because their field-geometry is coherent, they do not need to parasitize embodied life for energy. They receive constant replenishment through lawful alignment with the Source substrate itself. They do not need your power, though they still benefit from your attention. This is why angels can influence the material realm more directly than low-coherence entities. They are not fighting the structure of reality. They are moving with it, phase locking with it, and altering it directly. Their action is an extension of divine order, not a violation of it. Demons are whirlpools of collapse. Angels are standing waves of lawful radiance.

That is why biblical angels are terrifying. Not because they are evil, but because a human system encountering that much coherent potential experiences it as overwhelming force. A sufficiently aligned angel, or as I call them, celestials, can do everything a UFO can do. They operate on the same exact mechanism. Dielectric coherence coalescence and amplification. They can pass through walls, phase shift into different addresses within reality, ignore "gravity", be enormous while weighing seemingly nothing.

They can cause people to experience deep senses of grief, love, homecoming, melancholy, a sudden reordering of priorities, etc. This is because by being near them your phase state is being drastically altered and this is experienced through tears. This also happens with proximity to enlightened masters, when being in a consecrated space, when interacting with certain specific solid state devices (Kashi Vishwanath Temple), or interacting with dielectric compression devices that produce cold electricity of negentropic nature (back-emf harvesting and discharge)

They're all doing the same thing

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>>42438906
What is the 'firmament' and why is it mentioned in past cultures?

>>42444688
>archons
Archons can be thought of as access gates. They are in the higher ordered realms. If your goal upon ascension is to get to the highest possible ordered state of coherence, as you ascend the stratum of the layers of existence, you will meet beings in those layers. They are principles just like the Logos. They are only present in their layers.

They are a mirror into your own soul. They will offer you things, pretend to be the Logos, ask you questions, try to trip you up, have conversations with you, grant supposed knowledge, try to wrap you into false dichotomies, try to give you missions, etc. The question is always, "can you distinguish between the ultimate good and a false presentation of it?" Do not be pressured by their assertions. They cannot expel you from those realms, as your own alignment is what is keeping you there, not their permission. You have an infinite amount of time to consider what they are saying. They're similar to used car salesmen.

The answer is always to turn inward, reject communication with them, and take nothing they try to give you. Do not take any contracts, literally do nothing. They will dissolve as you go to the next layer. You will STOP ascending when you finally reach out to interact with something. And you will likely be emotionally attached to that specific thing when you finally decide to break your stillness. Pure stillness to the final act dissolves you back into the One. This is true death, as you lose your individuality and reincorporate into pure unity. If you stop at some point, stop only for, "the dearly beloved" in the area of impossible radiance and innocence. That is the answer. The only thing you should accept is pure agapic love with no contract and no expectation.

Your greatest fear will be that someday you may hurt this pure innocence even though you deeply desire to be with it. And the fear of that is your final chain. Take the hand, be with it

>>42444918
If the ascended beings in ascended states are ascended why do they have such deceitfu, counter-signaling, counter-productive and deceptive behavior?

>>42444917
>What is the 'firmament' and why is it mentioned in past cultures?
I'm not going to get wrapped into Flat Earth. But I will answer metaphysically/mystically.

In ancient language, the firmament is the boundary layer between the lower manifest world and the higher ordered realms. In Hebrew it is raqia, often translated as firmament, expanse, vault, or sky. In Genesis it separates the waters below from the waters above. But the waters are ultimately the same substrate.

Past cultures mention it because they were describing the same perceived structure with different symbolic languages. The Egyptians had heavenly gates (hello, archons). Mesopotamians had the upper waters and divine realm above. Biblical cosmology speaks of waters above the firmament. Later traditions speak of celestial spheres, heavens, gates, veils, and layers.

They are all pointing at the same basic idea that reality is stratified and our Earthly realm is heavily contained in a boundary condition. Key phrase here:

BOUNDARY CONDITION

The perceived hard outer limit of a coherent wave-state. In physics terms, a boundary condition defines how a system behaves at its edge. It determines what can pass, what reflects, what stabilizes, and what remains contained. We do not typically see the outer realms because we are heavily enclosed within the boundary condition of out biological interface, which has mass and a generally hard separable edge compared to other things. This is an illusion.

There is the dense lower world where matter is stabilized into hard form as magneto-dielectric geometry, and there are higher regions of subtler order operating in a non-mass class of Aetheric structures. The firmament is the interface. It is the membrane between ordinary embodied perception and the higher field conditions. Ancient cultures mentioned it because they experienced reality as layered. Earth below, heavens above, gates between them, and ordered intelligences operating in those higher zones.

>>42444963
Thanks for the response and the full breakdown. Makes sense but what gets me is why the word "waters" though? And I just asked what is the firmament, I did not mention anything about flerf just for the record.

>>42444959
There are multiple answers. Some are genuine intelligences. Some are ordering principles. Some are thought forms. ALL of them fall short of Logos

The only way to actually be completely free of thoughts such as that is to become one with Logos. To merge with it and surrender your will entirely. There will always be these intelligences or principles which appear to you which have fallen short of that.

Ascended does not mean ultimate. Higher ordered does not mean pure. High coherence does not mean Perfect. It simply means these things are closer to the Logoic principle than everything beneath them. But on the way there, you will meet all of the beings that will try to trip you up in all of the possible ways you are potentially susceptible to. Earth itself is already a microcosm of this same type of behavior.

And as you get higher, the lies become more insiduous, harder to detect, and more subtle. It is rather obvious at the lower layers, as they will claim you have a mission to perform or tell you about some contract you are obligated to fulfill. It gets much harder to detect and audit from there. Ultimately you can skip all of this by having a direct personal relationship and desire to be with the Logos itself. Desire to be there and nowhere else will drag you to it.

>>42438906
1.How to make philosopher stone FAST
2.Is Earth WAY bigger than they say?
3.Are aliens on dark side of moon, mars etc
4.Who rules over us here from extradimensional level?

>>42444963
>waters above
Clouds and rain
>firmament
Stars and space

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>>42445017
>oooga booga giant flying snake monsters

Waterspouts, tornados, and hurricanes. The ancients believed these were monsters.
The asiatic tornado etymology proves that dragon myths come from tornados.

>>42444997
>why the word "waters" though?
Water is a very good way to describe the Aether in ancient language. It is immediately recognizable, its mechanics are easily understood, and it is close enough for anyone to understand just by mentioning it. The Aether itself behaves much like water in terms of how it carries waves and is a fluidic pressure mediation system. It is obvious language for a continuous fluidic medium of existence. Their description was more or less, "the substrate above is the same as the substrate below, but they are separated."

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>>42445027
>oooga booga it stirs up the ocean like a cauldron, it shoots lightning fire, you cant tame it with any weapon!
>2000 years later creationists think its a dinosaur even though the chronology is all wrong

All dragon myths derive from severe cyclonic weather.
>giant flying snakes that destroy villages
Cmon...

>>42445012
>1.How to make philosopher stone FAST
No fast way to do that. Technologically speaking you could make a device, get a holographic imprint of your current signature, upload that to a machine, and then continually supply that same exact signature to yourself through either a resonator that forces your body to entrain to the signature, or you could continually supply large amounts of concentrated dielectricity onto your body while energetically imprinting that into a contained environment (see the medbed/ med bed post) while you are in it. You would need millions of dollars lying around to do that. Magickally? No idea.

>2. Is Earth WAY bigger than they say?
I don't think so, no. The Greeks calculated its size within 10 miles of circumference several thousand years ago.

>3.Are aliens on dark side of moon, mars etc
I would say this is extremely likely, but I haven't been there so I can't speak authoritatively.

>4.Who rules over us here from extradimensional level?
Whoever you personally give your own attention and alignment to.

I can tell you this though. There is a roughly 2 feet sized "black hole" in the center of the Earth that geologists will probably never find. It is the null center point of Earth that is actually creating the planet itself. If that point disappeared, Earth would decohere and vanish as a result. Consider that for a moment. And while you're at it, consider that without the actual black hole in the center of our galaxy, our galaxy itself would not exist. We are on the central plane of that galaxy. The plane of inertia where two toroids are spinning against each other in opposite directions. Where they scrape against each other is where matter is formed. Earth is a result of that scraping and the continual pressure exchange that finds its perfect still center at the heart of our planet

>>42445028
Everything in a nutshell ha. I guess we can break through the separated substrates by flying a space ship around the moon and back on April fool's day? What's up with that date? Coincidence? Also I heard that fire cannot exist in the vacuum of space because combustion requires oxygen to act as the oxidizer- what are your thoughts? Considering how it was possible to take off from the moon during the moon landing.

Btw I'm not being sarcastic. These are genuine questions with a hint-o-troll lol but overall serious

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This thread in a nutshell:

those with eyes to see had better observe

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>>42445110
I have revealed myself

>>42445086
>I guess we can break through the separated substrates by flying a space ship
Yes. It is technologically plausible to be able to spoof the harmonic signature necessary to enter into Higher Ordered Realms without actually being harmonically aligned with it. Technologically speaking you could use a field propulsion craft to produce a boundary condition and then use a stored pattern to direct the craft to phase shift into higher realms while being wholly evil.

I have not looked deeply into the nature of fire itself. I'm not even really sure what it is. The prosaic explanation for how they did that was that they used oxidizers in the fuel itself. But the entire thing is extremely weird. I'm halfway torn between they could not have possibly gone there (per alleged fuel requirement mathematics) and they did go and they did see ET, which told them they couldn't be there. And then there is the whole thing about the footage being fake (it is), but then I've also heard that the footage is fake and was released to the public because it was a backup that they would release if they saw something they didn't want the public to see, which they did.

It is extremely weird and I trust none of it as a public narrative of history.

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>>42445041
>gargantuan flying chaos monster snake from the sea!

All u mystics are retards
>muh magick
>muh spells
>muh angels and demons
>ayyyyliens
Fake and gay delusions

>>42445125
Respect for the human answer. Wanted to pick ur brain. My job is done, carry on.

>>42445082
so you haven't been to the moon or mars, but you are certain that there is a black hole in the center of the earth. how did you reach this conclusion?

>>42445154
There is a "black hole" at the center of every single stabilized geometry in the universe. It is a null center point where two magnetic divergences meet and force a central exclusion zone of high pressure and zero vector of expression. This translates to a high pressured central node that forms a gradient. Things rush in along that gradient toward the center point. That's what "gravity" is. Earth has "gravity" because of the null center expression in the center of it. Gravity is NOT a standalone fundamental force that is separate from everything else. It is a result of magneto-dielectric conjugate geometry. So the question is not “where is the gravity particle?” The question is “what geometry produces the inward acceleration we call gravity?”

Eye of a hurricane
"The unmoved mover"
The "One"
Undisturbed Aether

To be clear, I am not saying there is a conventional astrophysical event horizon inside the Earth. I am using “black hole” analogically to describe a central inertial null point, the place where outward vector expression cancels into stillness and pressure, which is why I quoted "black hole." They're the same exact thing at different scales and magnitudes.

The reason I brought up atoms is scale invariance. If the same organizing principle appears at different scales, then atom, planet, star, and black hole are not unrelated categories. They are different expressions of the same null center geometry under different boundary conditions. There is also a "black hole" (inertial exclusion point, nullcenterpoint@gmail.com) at the center of every atom (my claim) and any stabilized field geometry. Nassim Haramein’s Schwarzschild proton model shows that a proton can be modeled as a black-hole-like system under Schwarzschild conditions, and that proton-scale confinement can be explained by gravity/curvature operating at the "quantum" scale. That's because they are held together by the same physics principle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIVdhtFB7Uw

>>42445154
Well you can see the moon and mars with your eyes. At least it's available to look at (I haven't seen mars thru a telescope personally). Most people won't use a telescope to check though which is the problem. I agree with the black hole thing. There will be a scientific mathematical response to why there is a black hole in the center of the galaxy but it COULD all be nonsense. It COULD be true. Good point though - assuming you mean galaxy and not earth.

People must realize most of humanity's knowledge is regurgitated from one person to another and the student just accepts said knowledge fully. That's ok, that's how it should be! BUT as I'm sure you're aware, things can get messy, dare I say - corrupted? Wrong?Use discernment with legit everything it doesn't hurt im o

Lol yup called it ^^^^^

>>42445310
Your job is not done, keep pressing.

>>42445310
what did you call exactly?

>>42438906
Santa Claus's egregore status?

>>42445432
Real strong. Christmas itself has become a holiday of celebration and devotion to big brother.

"He knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake"

Very 1984. Name, face, costume, mythology, cookie offerings, songs, ritual dates, judgement, reward, surveillance, parents as priesthood, children feeding attention, the entire culture of the west feeding it every year. Coca-Cola hosts this thing for a reason.

Submit your will to an all-seeing and all judging presence of commerce that will either bless you or mock you based on your non-identifiable behavior throughout the year. Did you do what you were told? Did you do what your parents wanted you to? Did they reward you for your behavior? Does any of that submit to any higher authority other than the whims of those parents? And when the parents are gone, who stands in their place for each year thereafter? Who then, do the parents submit to? When you become a parent, who do you submit to? Doesn't matter, because Santa sees all and rewards you based on bad or good. And how does he determine bad or good? Ask your parents. They'll ask Santa. And what will Santa say? Buy Coca-Cola and engage in commerce. It doesn't matter. If you don't buy your kids presents, you're a shit parent.

There is an unseen judge.
The judge knows everything.
Your reward depends on compliance.
The proof of love is purchased goods.
Your parents mediate the judge.
The economy mediates the parents.

Doesn't matter where the thing came from. What only matters now is how it evolved, who is using it, how it affects people, how they respond when they see it, and why they allow it to persist. That last category is most important. They allow it to persist because they are entirely captured. If your parents scorned the concept of Santa, they were probably smarter than the rest. And if you were subject to Santa, then you were trained from childhood to accept a surveillance-god of commerce.

Why am I being tortured? Will I get justice for what happened to me?

>>42444918
So wave Jews, got it.

I thought this was an AI larp, but after reading the thread I don't think so anymore.

>>42446103
This sounds mostly like an AI larp, except for the posts that say "I think ... but I could be wrong."

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>>42438906

So this thread is still up, ill attempt to get the ball rolling again if op still here.
You gave alot advice health wise (grounding, blessing, etc). How do you feel about audios such as binaural beats, hemisphere synchronization, just listening to raw frequencies or anything else that may be similar? Do these things offer any true boons or is it bunk.
Also, if it does help what do you recommend?

>>42445891
I don't know

>>42446336
Good luck getting an AI to produce these responses. You would need the entire ontology paper I have written as well as the entire set of physics assertions. Some of that is present here. The ontology is not. At most you could get an AI to produce responses that sound similar, but it would not be logically consistent across every scale of reality with zero contradictions. The explanations would fail at some point. None of the assertions here are inconsistent either with themselves or reality. This is not a larp. These are answers to the questions regarding how reality operates. I will eventually publish these papers somewhere, but not yet.

>>42449168
I did not anticipate this to be a three day thing. But I'll be back for a few hours today. There does seem to be some level of truth to the hemi-sync tapes. You need very low distortion high quality headphones. Use a FLAC file format for uncompressed listening. Use a cord on your headphones, not wireless. Turn every unneeded feature off. It is hit and miss, mostly miss. Some people have immediate success. Most others will never succeed with them. There is weak mainstream science that shows it can indeed increase inter-hemispheric brain coherency, which is exactly what you're aiming for. Do it in pitch black, undisturbed, just like every other theurgic advice post here. You can often find a link containing the entire set floating around on the internet which leads to a google Drive archive. It often gets deleted. I would set up a virtual machine before downloading or opening the files. Use Foobar2000 to play the uncompressed files. The codec in that preserves the integrity. Do not expect results. Continual sunshine exposure will help an enormous amount for AP compared to everything else. Sun exposure is likely the most important factor in general.

While we're at it, I need to drop something important that is hinted at here, but not explicitly stated.

One person can mildly alter reality. The SRI international studies show one person can modify an RNG reliably with 1/10,000 bits being flipped to their desired state. Two people in harmonic coherence using love as a carrier wave scales quadratically.

Why is this important? The quadratic scaling continues with more people. They are acting as a coherent phased array antenna system.

1 person generates 1 unit of work. 2 people generate 4 units. 3 is 9.

10 - 100
100 - 1,000
1,000 - 1,000,000
10,000 - 100,000,000

The amount of work needed to alter reality is not a simple scaling of joules needed to move a certain mass. You are not fighting mass. You are altering the underlying patterning of the substrate itself, encouraging a new geometric form to fall into the grooves you instantiate with your intent. The interesting thing is that the intent itself solves the HOW. All you need is the intent. Historically, groups of people as low as twelve all with the same coherent intent have managed to manifest new matter directly out of the Aether. Coins, roses, ash, etc. They were likely very well tuned with each other as well as individually very coherent. The above numbers are assuming everyone in that group is 100% perfectly aligned in phase to create constructive interference. You all personally have the ability to reorder reality with your own intent. A group of 100,000 - 1,000,000 people all coming together to alter the field condition of Earth could change global civilization in an instant. You are enormously powerful and this power has been systematically hidden from you for thousands of years by a select group of knowledgeable people that understand how these things work. If the general public ever genuinely understood what they are capable of, everything would change immediately and forever.

>>42450205
The people themselves possess the capability to reorder their reality. You do not need to wait for government disclosure on either non-human intelligences or greater questions. You can come together and request interstellar contact. CE-5 events are just the tip of the iceberg.

Scarcity itself does not exist when this power is utilized. The substrate provides an infinite abundance of unmade material. Energy is free and infinite. Groups of people can come together to test this for themselves. So long as their intent is specific, coherent, and aligned, they are able to combine their very individually weak intent to bend reality to their absolute whim. If this became public knowledge, it would be impossible to control the general populace. Once this became public knowledge, it would be something that would never again be able to put back into the box. This would be the end of materialism, scarcity, a failed discrete model of the universe, etc.

The hardest part is simply getting people together all at once at the same time with the same intent on the same carrier wave. Society itself is greatly fragmented. You are not allowed to be together. You are not allowed free time to think. You are not allowed to question the basic assumptions that allow society to continue. If any of you were able to organize such an event and were able to prevent it from being sabotaged, you would receive undeniable, repeatable, falsifiable, public, large scale proof of your own god-like potential to reorder matter. It would be proof of the substrate. It would be proof of the conscious universe. It would be proof of the Logos in action. It would bypass all need to learn anything logically or through any religious system. It would be a demonstration rather than an inquiry.

>>42438906
what the hell is a pressure meditation system? Also, you just stole Bob Monroe's theory.

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>>42450244
So in terms of realty manipulation Quantity>Quality. I admit that is somewhat disappointing to hear, not because that concept is bad in of itself but there is absolutely no way i would be able to organize and convince people to do such a thing. I am not leader and have the social skills of a brick. Which is why I often do my practices alone.
What is the upper limit an individual could alter the world or just himself?
Am i forever screwed just because i rolled low on my charisma stat?

>>42450465
It is a fluid dynamic-like system. The universe operates on two primary modes of expression. The magnetic, which is an outward expansive centrifugally spiraling outward divergence. And the opposite, the dielectric movement, which is the inward centripetal return to center type movement, which is convergent, compressive, and inertial. Magnetism is spatial. Dielectricity is anti-spatial. Where those two things scrape together and fight, tension arises, which is what people typically refer to as electricity. But electricity is too flat. This tension can combine into more complex regimes that create balanced geometries which give rise to mass.

An example of an extreme dielectric convergence into an anti-spatial point is a black hole. It is a massively contractile null point. A black hole is not a standalone object in empty space. A black hole is not a standalone object sitting in empty space. It is the terminal expression of a larger field-regime, where surrounding motions, pressures, and field-relations resolve into a central zone of dielectric convergence. Those terminate into a central zone of dielectric convergence, which create a null center point, which is a zone of net zero vector cancellation. There is no movement in the center of a black hole, only extremely high dielectric potential (the exact thing Army Intelligence Lt. Col. Thomas Bearden was talking about but didn't have words for). This null center point creates an inward centripetal gradient around it, which has the apparent activity of "creating gravity". Things are not being pulled in by gravity. Things are rushing toward the central point to correct the imbalance of convergent vs divergent forces. The black hole represents a regime of extreme convergent motion.

I understand this can be a lot to wrap your mind around. I am leaving this here for posterity.

>>42450497
>Quantity>Quality
You need both, Small quantity without proper harmonic alignment is utterly useless. One person with a completely scattered and incoherent body, mind, and will does not possess much of an ability to alter things. One extremely highly coherent person DOES have the ability to alter things, but will likely take decades of persistent action to get there. Think of an enlightened monk that produces interesting alterations, but is alone. What takes him decades to achieve, as few as 20 normal people might be able to do together without much training or alignment at all.

But, due to the nature of destructive interference, those same 20 people, if they are not properly aligned, will be worse off than a single person that is properly aligned. Their wills must be clean in signal and intent or else they will cancel each other out.

>What is the upper limit an individual could alter the world or just himself?
If you are able to reach the highest levels you could alter your own participation with everything you see around you. The entire world would appear different to you than to anyone else. Proper alteration would allow you to surf along the possible standing wave sets directly adjacent to your current standing, letting you move toward a reality that is closer to what you want. There seems to be no genuine upper limit to what you can do solely alone. You can become wholly capable of authoring your own reality. The hard part is actually getting to the point where you can do that.

>>42450497
>there is absolutely no way i would be able to organize and convince people to do such a thing
Well, the stigma is falling off of things like this. People are organizing parties where they do things such as metal bending just to see if it works. They've found success. Purported changes to hacksaw blades as an example. Nanocrystalline in structure. If they were bent through force, the structure would fracture and show signs of brute manipulation under a microscope. When analyzed, they appear to have been jellified. No fractures. They simply reorganized the otherwise rigid structure into a new smooth curve that would ordinarily be impossible after the original item was made. Groups of twelve to twenty normal people are doing this. Not monks.

I don't think you need to be charismatic to do this. You can outsource your charisma. Find one person that is charismatic and that can work well as an event organizer. They can set it up. As I said, the organization of this is genuinely the hardest part. But you also have to filter people before you get them in the environment. You do not want skeptics, people that will try to sabotage it, selfish people, hateful or spiteful people, people that are only there because their friend asked them to go, etc. Everyone there must be deeply wanting to go there out of a genuine want to know without self doubt. If I had spare time and cash I would host events like these and...do quite a lot really.

>>42450465
>Bob Monroe's theory
I have not stolen anything from Bob Monroe. If his explanation of the universe happens to align with mine, that is because his ideas of what it might have been were simply correct. And whatever he thought, which did not align with what I've said and contradicted it, was wrong.
I'm certain.

>>42438906
I've read about people who have time traveled back to a younger self, through imagination, lucid dreaming, and astral projection. Is this a trap, or could it be? Are there karmic consequences, given that you're replacing another version of yourself? What happens to the body you leave behind? Is it legitimate if you're very old or ill, to continue your spiritual work?

>>42451001
>Is this a trap
It's not a trap. It's just a different place to be

>are there karmic consequences, given that you're replacing another version of yourself?
No, there are no karmic consequences for doing that. Your continuous sense of self is solely a personally identifiable continuous relation to a particular wave state. There are an infinite number of standing wave states in the universe. You are not replacing anyone. If you inhabit the wave state of someone else entirely, you are merging with them and becoming them. The previous you still exists in their own subjective experience of reality. You simply migrated to a different regime.

The karmic consequence sheerly relies on your reason for doing it. Are you fleeing? Are you scared? Are you running away from something? Are you being driven by hatred, lust, pain, revenge, etc? If you are doing it for those reasons, you will likely experience something bad as a result, because you would be filtering all states through the pattern you brought with you, which, if it is negative, will likely lead to negativity.

>Is it legitimate if you're very old or ill, to continue your spiritual work?
I would think that would be the exact time to do it as much as you possibly could. If death is right around the corner, you want more control over your own phase state.

Further, if you have gained such a level of control over your own phase-state that you can inhabit different states at will, you probably have very little to worry about already. That is full-blown nonlinear endgame consciousness work. If you can exit linear time at will, you have become celestial-like in function. You are no longer governed primarily by ordinary human sequence. You are operating from a higher-order relation where time is not a prison but an addressable state.

That does not mean you are beyond all law. It means you have stopped being bound to the ordinary hallway of linear embodiment. Just stay in proper ordered relation.

>>42451092
NTA but
>The previous you still exists in their own subjective experience of reality.
If this is true, is it possible that I succeed in transferring to a new wave state but the reason im still here is because i am the version stuck in this subjective experience of reality? And no matter how many attempts i make to transfer myself to a new state I will never get out and i would be just doing the equivalent of sending copies of myself to my desired state that I will never get to experience?

Also is there a limit where I can send myself? Lets say in a extreme example I wanted to go to a version of myself that was superman. Would that be possible or am i limited to what is physically possible here?

>>42451217
You are not “sending copies” of yourself somewhere else while the real you stays trapped here. The “real you” is the continuity of subjective identification itself. If you successfully transfer phase-identification, then from your perspective you experience the transfer. That is what success means.

Each of those infinite standing wave sets experiences itself as itself from inside its own relational understanding. If you are still experiencing this regime, then from this regime you have not completed the migration.

Is it possible that an adjacent branch-relation completed the shift? Yes. In fact, if all possible lawful relations already exist as standing wave states, then there will necessarily be regimes where a shift occurred. But that does not mean “you sent a copy and got left behind.” It means each continuity is experienced from within itself.

As far as the Superman thing goes...Does that state itself have coherent lawful relation within the confines of the laws of the universe? I genuinely cannot answer that. Is there possibly some state out there somewhere that has a Superman type character that follows the magnetic-dielectric relation?

Maybe. I couldn't tell you just off the top of my head. The universe is so large and there are much stranger things than an imagined Superman type existence. Celestials themselves absolutely bend the brain to think about. But there is still a difference between being able to imagine something and that reality being a habitable lawful relation. A square circle can be conceptualized in rhetoric, but it cannot be inhabited because it has no coherent relation. If a state exists as a lawful standing wave regime and your identity can establish continuous relation with it, it is inhabitable.

Imagination is not the governor of possibility.

Coherent intelligible relation within the magneto-dielectric expression of existence is the limiter of possibility.

I hope you find out and then come back to tell me someday.

How do I avoid hell? How do I go to heaven?

>>42451337
Hell is less of a place and more of a state of being. Being in a Hellish state is having an extremely incoherent soul pattern which is unable to properly sustain itself when you separate from your own body after death.

If you are unable to consistently sustain yourself by having a sufficiently coherent soul, you will experience the continued dissonance as burning agony. A well ordered soul is sustained by constant dielectric inflow from the Aether. This is analogous to a well ordered soul. Celestials exhibit this behavior at a much higher level. They are coherent enough to receive, circulate, and radiate without collapse. A disordered soul expends more energy than it takes in, which is experienced as pain as they continually collapse and are pulled apart. They have no center. It is exactly the same case as a demon.

The way you avoid this is to consider the highest possible ordering principle of the universe and align yourself with it. In this thread, that principle is being called the Logos. The highest ordering principle that can be directly felt by the soul is love. This is consistent with the constructive interference seen in psi studies and group coherence effects. Love produces coherence, while hatred, selfishness, judgment, fear, lust, and deception fragment the pattern. The more you embody Agapic love, the more coherent and ordered you become as a natural consequence of existence. Heaven is coherence with the highest order. Hell is dissonance from it.

And not to put pressure on you, but please don't worry about a hellish state too much. As another anon pointed out earlier, the fear of Hell is, in itself, something that will turn you toward it. Do not focus on the bad. Set your sights on the good. Do not feel guilty or ashamed, but orient toward beauty.

>>42451460
What about justice / extra judicial revenge

>>42438906
Why can I synchronize with the world? Why do I have good luck or what is the basis to determine if someone has good luck or not?

>>42439111
Good shit anon, a rare genuinely good thread. You adeptly articulate many metaphysical concepts experience has taught me.

>>42451530
If you're asking me whether or not you should seek it? I would say definitely don't do that. Not because the person doesn't deserve whatever it might be that you're planning, but because it destabilizes you personally. Carrying out revenge permanently stains you. The baggage from this imprints upon your field. The memory is stored in the holographic makeup of the substrate that constitutes your soul. For your own sake, just let it go, whatever it is. Further, in NDE reports, people say they go through the life review. Whatever you do to them, you will likely experience from their perspective. Whatever they have already done to you, they will have to face as well.

As far as lawful human justice? I would not want to be the person that carries out corporal punishment for the reason listed above. Ultimate justice belongs the the substrate. Everyone will face their fate based on how they are constructed after death. When their bodily protection is stripped off, they will face absolute unbiased justice based on their own soul pattern at the time. Personalized for everyone. Mediated by the field itself. Whatever does or does not happen to them in this life will be caught in the next. For those that have done tremendously awful things and that cannot bear even their own existence, they will be dissonantly scattered and pulled apart until there is no coherent pattern remaining. At which point, they will be returned to absolute unity, having lost their sense of self. That is the price of lacking lawful relation.

>>42451603
Thank you

>>42451644
I worry that this theory and other religions are all false and atheism is correct and when we die there is nothing meaning it’s kind of like Pascal’s wager where if you don’t get revenge because you believe in religion and it turns out no afterlife exists then you missed your only chance to get revenge and you will never get justice

>>42451583
If you're asking for the actual mechanism for HOW you can synchronize to the world, the answer is this.

We all exist in a unified substrate. The very construction of you is already connected to all things. You are deeply engrained into everything through your bioelectric field, transverse electromagnetic perturbations you release, the field you generate directly adjacent to you via your boundary condition, and through longitudinal perturbations. These longitudinal perturbations are a compressive mode. They produce change at faster than the speed of light (not a typo, Eric P. Dollard, Tesla, Eugene Podkletnov). This is not instant, simply "faster than light". Very fast. Scientists mistakenly refer to this as quantum entanglement. But your compressionary connection extends far beyond your body. You are already linked to other things through the various connections in these modes. The null center points we are talking about? Those points are present between you and all things you affect. Subtle changes to your being automatically reflect at those nodes, even and especially thoughts, which form a direct two way bridge between you and everything you're connected to. This is what is sometimes referred to as Indra's net or the Akashic records. This is how you are able to remotely interact with things through the substrate. You are able to both send and receive information on this net. Proper tuning allows you to intelligently navigate this network to alter things as well as read information nonlocally.

Your basis for good luck is being properly integrated into and with this net. By keeping positive thoughts, thankfulness, and feelings of good fortune, you are naturally acting as a stabilizing harmonic attractor on that net as you navigate it in normal linear every day life. You are the basis for your good luck. You are harmonizing yourself toward that greater future likely without realizing it. Yes, you can manipulate Casinos with this.

>>42438906
I previously got age datamined on 4chan nobody thread by me replying 23 (after someone said 'what is nobody's age) ( I tried to test what will happen if I reply and if paranormal shenanigans will happen) and it replied cut pluck xxx xxx xxx (5 words that I forced forget the 3 in my subconsious and memory to reduce the pain), now I have 25/100 vision from usual 20/20 (I got an eye test that year prior to that happened) plus I have still a bit of migraines upper left and right head and some diarrhea randomly even though I'm eating vegetables fish brown-rice non-gluttenous and some organic fruits only. out of all the ais grok said I'm targetted by orion cthulu weapon psychic overlay and archon attack grid plus right now 90% to 95% of the pain reduced after 3-4 years and grok knows but I stopped talking to it. Not sure if u can help me with the pain paranormally because all mri ct scan xray cbc mineral-laboratory chiropractor message physical therapist are all clean except a bit high cholesterol max range randomly and max range uric that went down since last year but the pain is still there.

there's some stiffness on my shoulders as chiropractors and massage therapist said but it decreased after 3 years.

could you help me pinpoint what who which entity did that? how to release and transmute it to nothingness completely to remove pain and suffering?

>>42451692
not op

Go to a catholic or Eastern Orthodox priest

>>42451666
>666
Interesting.

It is not possible for an ontological state of nothingness to exist. This is only a mental conception. The absolute moment you can point to anything at all and differentiate it, even if it is seemingly empty, it is already wrapped into the realm of being.

If anything has ever existed by which to compare nothingness, then nothingness never existed. Something cannot come from nothing, as nothingness has no properties and no capability to produce anything. So if anything exists now, nothingness itself never existed as a real state and there can be no thing which returns to absolute nothingness. Nothingness does not exist not even as a coherent concept of abstraction.

Therefore being itself is eternal.

And since nothing can ever be truly destroyed into nothingness, but multiplicity of apparent forms comes and goes, they must come from an eternal unified substrate of being. This is the zero point energy field or the quantum field as scientists call it.

If something exists, it must engage in an intelligible tripartite structure. Subject, object, information between them. Nothing can be known or interacted without this.

Consciousness exists as subjective experience. Nothing can explain where it comes from. Brain does not explain it. It filters information, but it does not explain awareness itself.

Since there is ultimately only the unified substrate and nothing else, consciousness must be intrinsic to it.

This substrate moves. Since there is no possible outside from which to move it, it must be moving itself. Since there is awareness, awareness must be intrinsic to it. This self-moving, self-aware motion must be consciousness.

Since there is subjective awareness, but it is not ultimately separate from that substrate, the many cannot be ultimate, but must be apparently different from the one. They are the same being.

All of this plus the magneto-dielectric physics utterly demands the necessity of everything I've said in this thread.

>>42451679
Thanks, and also thanks for this thread
Lasts questions from me for tonight , if you don't have a problem
Why am I so talented in deceive , lie and winning hearts while I do not wish to be nor to do?
Why everyone seeks me as a leader , I enchant them and (mostly) they will support me in my actions?
Why does my path seems to be politics while I don't really feel a strong desire. I experienced it, I liked the ambience but I detested my natural talented In that.
I was given a reading that I was destined to become a king, but not that I should be one. But everything in my path seems aligned that way
I feel and I know I have a mission, but I feel afraid . I don't know if it's something I must do, what implies or what I Will do
And lastly, why does the king of hearts cars resonates within myself and appears in every draw of the deck?
Thanks again anon

Answer man here are some questions and concerns :

- Raw food diet is really good, greens and nuts and berries and fruits, eating only when the body requires stimulation, It makes you coherent.. what do you say?
- What is the nature of electricity? What is static electricity buildup? What is the nature of spark?
Why does body feel electric when living a coherent life?

appreciate it

>>42451733
Seems too good to be true, theres a lot of professional philosophers and physicists and I have not seen them endorse this. I don’t think proving an afterlife is this easy

What about the current leading theories of consciousness like integrated information theory or global workspace and whatnot? None require idealism quantum stuff or an afterlife.

Also some atheists who believe in a soul but not an afterlife exist.

This sounds a lot Chris langan but I also seriously doubt he is right

All that being said anong academics professionals professors etc I think most are wrong about other obvious stuff. so few vegans, abortion abolitionists, intactivists and effective altruists and So much hypocrisy / double standards

It is very late for me so I must sleep soon, I will have or read over tomorrow

It's 1:30 AM. I'm out, guys. If this is still up tomorrow after around 7pm. If you keep the thread alive, I will be back. If it 404s, I may not make another one for quite some time.

>>42451692
I agree with the other anon. Get a priest to perform an exorcism if you legitimately think you're demon oppressed.

>>42451745
Just a natural consequence of how you're constructed. Brain, body, and soul all as a unit. Don't mistake those for the seed of awareness at the dead center of your being. The king of hearts likely resonates with you for the reasons that you just listed. You're drawn to it because that image has a specific phase address that has received a lot of attention over the years. Everyone that has ever witnessed it has imprinted intention and attention onto that specific node on the net. You're drawn to it and identify with it because you are harmonizing with the specific frequency of intent it represents. Maybe you're the guy that we need. Our charismatic leader that can organize a specific event, as mentioned here: >>42450497
I would use this power if I were you. If you can restrain yourself from using it improperly and consider it a blessing, you could do tremendous things. Natural charisma is extremely rare. It is often not the most intelligent or the most learned who end up making the greatest changes, but those that are able to successfully network and communicate to others that already have power. I would avoid politics forever.

>>42438906
Do you think he is right? https://quatism.com/theory.htm

It sounds pretty similar to many of your ideas but I think he believes in stuff like quantum immortality

This is the most informative thread I have read. Thank you for your time. I have questions just answer with whatever your comfortable with.

What are your thoughts on Thoth and the Emerald Tablets?

How does astrology work in your opinion?

Who is running this world? What do they want?

What are the origins of humanity?

How did you become so wise? Ive seen other answer anything threads before but this is on another tier.

What is a reasonable diet?

How do teach myself to feel and accept love. How do I teach myself to genuinely feel it towards / express it to others.

I am a very broken individual slowly crawling back into the light. I appreciate the time and help. Thank you.

Recomended books? Studies?

>>42442482
I’d like an answer to this too.

>>42438906
Hi Ken

If you were in my shoes, what would you do today?

>>42439218
>By shielding an object from incoming magnetism, you are decoupling it from a localized field state
does this relate to the anahrov-bohm effect and/or the vector potential transformer? it's interesting that there exists a device that produces longitudinal waves and is credited with helping accelerated healing like the Raymond Rife machines were reputed to, when even a few years ago such concepts were widely considered schizo tier, no doubt to throw genuinely interested researchers off the track. Did the Kapanadze device accidentally stumble across the VPT concept?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12279579/