Do female angels exist? Abrahamic scriptures are oddly silent about them, angels are (usually) portrayed as androgynous or genderless, though the stories of the Grigori and Watchers leave open the possibility that angels can assume a physical gendered form and procreate with humans, resulting in the Nephilim.In this thread, we search for any trace of scripture that might let us uncover the existence of feminine celestial beings.
>>42631422male angel + female human = nephilimfemale angel + male human = ???
cute thread
>>42631422The concept of winged humanoids come from Hellenism to begin with, your abrahamic usurpers stole from us pagans.
LEAVE THE ANGELS ALONE, SICKOS.
>>42631422Horny Thread?
>>42631422I don't have anything to tell you anon, the divine feminine was systematically erased from major religions because the priests were uncomfortable with the idea that heavenly beings could consist of women.
>>42631422doesn't matter if they exist, you'll still be unworthy of them because you are a mud-man of the earth
>>42631566Drop that Angel supremacist mindset and go get yourself an Angel wife.
>>42631422No. They're all men. The only women in heaven are human. I know you want this to not be true for the sake of your horniness but consider separating reality from your expectations. You can still imagine an angel with boobs and crank it to that. You shouldn't, but I obviously can't stop you. Whether or not female angels actually exist has nothing to do with your fantasy.
>>42631422Zach 59 Then I looked up—and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.10 “Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking to me.11 He replied, “To the country of Babylonia[c] to build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.”
>>42631594By your logic:>the masculine/genderless form can be divine>the feminine form is always ontologically earthly
Female angels belong to demons.
>>42631526>The Divine Feminine Doesn't exist. It's a new age woo woo idea for magical crystal tarot card girls who will not have sex with you. The only things I'm history that reflect the modern idea are negative entities like Tiamat or Medusa. Nobody ever discusses the divine feminine in a way that isn't materialistically empowering.
>>42631604Yes.
>>42631610divine androgynous is here
>>42631616Good luck explaining Solomon’s wisdom being in the form of a woman.
>>42631610>>42631616Then you reveal your own limited understanding of reality, anon, I feel sorry for you.
>>42631422Im a buddhist, the whole thing about celestial realms being asexual doesn't exist in my tradition, we have sense-sphere heavens where devas enjoy refined sensual pleasures
>>42631620The human soul is referred to with feminine pronouns in Greek translations of the bible. Are you a woman? Or do you think this is illustrative of a metaphysical dynamic between God and humanity?>>42631621Oh shut up. You're just a gooner.
>>42631637>You get your dick sucked forever!How to spot a religion made up by demons 101
>>42631526the priests of olde were right
>>42631638Struck a nerve in the misogynist fag
>>42631645The impulse to demonize teachings that dont conform to yours is a profoundly demonic one, the irony is lost on you.
>>42631650That's literally not an argument. I don't care about anything you just typed.>>42631656You claim Christ as being a great teacher. Christ says he is the only way.
>>42631638Let’s see. Jesus illustrates himself as the only example of an angel with a relationship.
>>42631432hmofalim
>>42631682What does that even mean
>>42631679Jesus isn't an angel. He was chaste for his entire life. Do you mean he had friends and parents? That's not the same thing as romantic or sexual attraction.
>>42631697What is the church anon
The Bible says angels aren't given to marriage, it NEVER explicitly says that angels cannot have sex.For all we know, this could be interpreted as them engaging in promiscuous, non-possessive sexual intercourse.
>>42631711Look anon I'm just saying your word games wouldn't hold up in court. People aren't stupid. The church is a bunch of buildings ran by a lot of men in robes that people go to, usually on Sunday, to worship God. Jesus is not literally married to it. This is a metaphor. Which you are aware of, but are playing dumb.
>>42631714The single time humans tried to have sex with angels in the Bible God fucking incinerated two entire cities. You tell me how angels feel about having sex with us.
>>42631714this, the idea that heavenly beings could engage in non-marital, non-procreative sex is so baffling that many people would outright call it a blasphemous thought>>42631735humans didn't initiate anything, it was the angels themselves who fell in lust for our daughters and took them
>>42631747The book of Enoch is apocryphal and contradicts genesis. It's like an ancient book of Mormon. The fact that people are so fascinated by the idea of humanity getting cucked by fallen angels is simultaneously pathetic and smacks of the involvement of said fallen angels. Angels don't have genitals. They're spiritual beings, they don't have semen. Why the fuck would God give them functional reproductive systems?
>>42631753Spiritual beings can assume physical form you dingus, also sexuality might not be a physical-only trait, it could exist in the spirit dimension in a way our monkey brains can't understand.
>>42631729That’s not what she is. She is an entity above angels. Currently in the state of incompletion. The Saints will see her.
>>42631735>The single time humans tried to have sex with angelsYou mean the time they tried to ass rape two angels? Seems like a bit of a different story.
>>42631735The feeling is strangely mutual. Do you have any idea how wondrous the image of God really is? And they are only two races God expects to follow by his ways, or face death.
>>42631761Only by God's permission. All angels get the go ahead from God alone. Why do you need this to be true so badly? You're just fascinated by the idea of giants? I know this is about the nephilim and annunaki shit for people like you. I will state this plainly; God gave us genitals because we're mortal beings who need to physically reproduce for our species to survive. Angels are ethereal and immortal. They have no need to reproduce. There is a fixed, finite number of them. God has no desire for them to, so they can't.
>>42631786What do you mean? God wants to expand endlessly. Of these animals around us even. And with expansions comes expansions of new rulers.
>>42631786>They have no need to reproduceThis do not make sexuality impossible for them.You can have sex as a recreational act without babies being the ultimate telos of it, in fact many people do it.
>>42631796Grandma and grandpa are at it again
>>42631771Sure dude we're splitting hairs here. Jesus isn't literally married to the church and you can't use this poetic description to justify the existence of female angels you can fuck. If that's what you want, just become a Muslim.>>42631773Since this is the level of delusion we're sinking to, how about this. Why would an angel want to fuck you? Why would an eternal being who is endlessly satiated just by being in the presence of God trade that for a one night stand with you?
>>42631804>MuslimJokes on you, Islam's angels are even more rigid than Christian ones because they can't even fall.>Why would an angel want to fuck you?Because my species is God's chosen incarnation, thereby making me special.
>>42631792Meaningless drivel. This is all just to justify your sex fantasies, I remind you.>>42631796It's impossible for them because God doesn't allow it. God is a utilitarian. Now we're characterizing God as some swinger pervert because humans choose to fuck each other's asses. God finds this revolting.
>>42631815God is the one who gave you and any man the capacity to feel sexual desire in the first place, it's not an alien contaminant to him.
>>42631813Go ask the citizens of Sodom how that worked out for them, being the same species as Jesus. Well. Ask their ashes, that is.
>>42631821God gave us sexual desire for reproduction. Your thinking is>Well God made this heroin feel really really good, so am I really doing anything wrong when I inject it in my arm until I die?I will reiterate, you are just a pervert and all of this is to justify your personal sexual fantasies. Why do there need to be female angels for you to masturbate to the idea of it? You can't suspend your disbelief?
>>42631839>for reproductionReproduction is too deterministic for a mechanism that he knowingly made pleasurable, but keep paving over the contradictions of your doctrine.
>>42631826The men of Sodom aren’t punished for liking angels. They’re punished for wanting men butt.
>>42631839You get it all wrong. You see, Adam, Eve, and Seth create the picture of the father c the Holy Spirit, and Jesus. Even Mary receives the messiah from the Holy Spirit.
>>42631847Yeah sorry anon let me edit this text for you to better reflect reality.>Reproduction is too deterministic for a mechanism that he knowingly made pleasurable, This text should be followed by the phrase "in my opinion." Like this.>Reproduction is too deterministic for a mechanism that he knowingly made pleasurable, in my opinion.Because that's all it is. Your opinion. You also don't seem to know how to properly identify a contradiction. Would it be more consistent if God made sex painful? Maybe if it felt like nothing, or was instinctual in the same way it is for animals? Ok. Pregnancy and childbirth are painful for the woman. This is the curse of Eve. Sex also creates a new human that has to be cared for. God also believes it's important for humans to be able to choose for themselves. Considering the consequences of sex, if it wasn't pleasurable, would you do it? In those circumstances, the only way you would is if you had an insurmountable phycological urge to. But then you wouldn't get to choose. See the issue here?
>>42631859Guess what the angels appeared as anon
>>42631871In other words, you are admitting that God couldn't get us to reproduce if he didn't turn sex into a pleasurable hook, retrospectively making him complicit in the very sexual impulses you condemn.Anyone with half a brain would know how your theology doesn't add up.
>>42631884There is nothing wrong with sexual impulses. Angels do not feel them. They will not have sex with you.
>>42631895>Angels do not feel themAnd just like that you have ignored all of the former discussion in this thread, case closed, you have no argument left.
>>42631900What the fuck are you talking about? This entire discussion has been>Angels don't want to fuck you>But I WANNA>Ok I understand that but they don't have genitals. They don't have sex and they don't want to have sex with you.>BUT HUMANS HAVE SEX! I WANNA HAVE SEX WITH AN ANGEL!>Ok I understand that but angels don't have sex. They also don't want to. You can pretend if you want but it isn't real.>BUT I WANNA! I WANT IT TO BEEEEEEEEEEE!>It isn't >FUCK YOU! FUUUUUUUUUCK! I WIN FUCK YOU!Whatever faggot go jerk off
>>42631921>trollingYawn, should've just said it from the beginning, anon
>>42631925You're a fucking idiot and I mean that sincerely. I am shocked by how stupid you are
>>42631637i've always found the eastern devas more fascinating and developed than western angels, heard they have a very elaborate description of the many heavens they reside in too
>>42631932Name-calling show your immaturity, not mine.
>>42631946I don't care at all. I don't know why you're even continuing to speak to me.
>>42631422Angels have no gender, aren't even humanoid, and look at humans like lost puppies. I met one in a dream, it was warm and very excited to see me. I felt a love that wasn't like anything else, not in intensity but the feeling of it. Not romantic, not platonic, but "warmth". I can't really describe it. Please do not lewd them. We must conqueror the beasts within ourselves.
>>42631964This
>>42631964Judeo-Christian angels are traditionally monstrous and the winged humanoids are a stolen hellenic concept as >>42631463 pointed out
/succgen/ will not have any rival!
>>42631964They’re far more diverse than you think. Many of them are quite excited creatures. Reminds me of children and the church goers.
>>42631879Men. And that implies an opposite. For the sake of a stable divine order.
>>42631422Yes, they do. At least feminine ones. A friend of mine once met one in a dark hour, and the angel had breasts that were notably large. I'm being dead serious, that's what he told me. I would advise against sex with them however, even if you somehow got the chance. There is an entire Bible story on how bad that can turn out.
>>42632415>There is an entire Bible story on how bad that can turn out.Well anon, those were male angels who raped human women out of lust, a female angel who consent to be with a human male might not be as transgressive.
>>42632440A female angel would never consent. They are servants of the Godhead, and have no romantic feelings for any of us. Sex is not in their nature.
Sexual dimorphism was created for life on earth, not spiritual beings. All spiritual beings are default male, in so much as they are complete while humans require a male and female pairing for completeness. Likely angels have form changing functionality as we see some far more human in apperance and some far less in the bible.Don't get me wrong I'm no saint, and I do kind of find the angelic or dvine features sexually attractive in rule 34 and what not but, generally speaking all angels are symbolically male, and would only take on female form because they are fallen and trying to get you to sin.
>>42632473>and would only take on female form because they are fallen and trying to get you to sin.That's (You) projecting your own repressed fear of femininity into demons who have nothing to do with the concept.
>>42632473>and would only take on female form because they are fallen and trying to get you to sin.All angels are different, they all take their own forms. Some just happen to be feminine in appearance. Not all feminine angels are trying to trick you into sex. Go by words and intent, not their appearance. An angel may look scary, but that doesn't make them fallen. A demon may look beautiful but that does not make them affiliated with God.
>>42631422Not scriptural but one of my friends had a personal experience with a female angel, and honestly they were extremely beautiful so I see why someone may obsess over them but its important to remember that even female angels are still angels, vessels who serve Heaven and the Lord so they are not something to be lusted after or objectified. Sometimes they are even too pure to be objectified even if you tried, forever beyond the reach of the human mind. Only to imagine, rather then grasp.
>>42632492No, feminity has a specific purpose, in the context of adam and eve, and later Mary and Jesus as the perfected forms of male and female. No angel in the bible is described as female, and they are only described as male. The female form is meant for reproductive sex, an servant of god would not take that form as they are not meant to serve that person to a man. Also all angels were made before the concept of feminity was invented by god, and they don't actually change in terms of peronal apperance as they choose exactly what they are at the moment of creation.
>>42632527This thread is specifically in the context of reproduction, read op post. If an angel appears before you in an attractive female form it is a succubus. People are far more likely to encounter a deceptive demon than an angel.
>>42632594Maybe you are. You are more likely to run into angels than demons if God is protecting you from them.
>>42632594sex with a succubus lead to damnation, sex with an angel elevate your station, do not confuse the two
>>42632615You will never have sex with an angel. They will not allow it. Even if you tried forcing yourself like scum, they would erase you.
>>42632606Oh yes, many people believe they are angels, Joseph Smith comes to mind, he and his followers all followed an angel of light to thier deaths.
>>42632628Literally when did I say men are angels?
>>42632615You cannot have sex with an Angel, you can only be decieved by an demon that you had sex with an angel. Jesus talked about this, sex is only, singularly and fully permitted in the context of a singular marriage with a woman.
>>42632634Award phrasing, "most people beleve they" (Referring to what you said are angels) are angels" with the implication that most people believe that interact angels, are in fact most often interacting with demons.
>>42631566This, no self-respecting angelic woman would ever want to dally with an ape man who shit, fart, is susceptible to disease and prone to aggression, not to mention that our men commit domestic violence whereas male angels never stoop so low.
>>42631422They are not humanoid by default, they are shapeshifters, technically, and asexual. My understanding is that the ones that actually will shapeshift into a woman you can fuck are universally demons. Also, why do you keep making this thread? This absolutely does not need to be a general.
>>42631432Also a nephilim, duh
>>42631526You are now aware that panty and stocking would have been thrown into hell for their whoring and immodesty
>>42631422The masculine-feminine asymmetry is inherent to all things since the beginning.
>>42631607loldemons don't own anythingand hell is a place with no lightno structuresno kingdomthey burn and their bones are all shattered and their organs all rippedthey feel only painthey think only of their wrongdoings and why they deserve itthey cannot movethey are alone
Oh this is just the succubus thread but you like feathery wings instead of leathery ones
>>42632725>earthly is feminine, divine is masculine>wait, what does that make earthly males then? aberrations?>feminine beings who are supernatural? automatically demonic, no other option
>>42631610100% this.The divine feminine and divine masculine are just archetypes or templates that humans are supposed to try and use as role models. Arguably the closest these come to actually existing is to think of them as the one true God's animus and anima in a jungian sense.There is no queen of heaven.
>>42632740>they burn and their bones are all shattered and their organs all rippedYou absolute retard, you goddamn moron, you idiotic simpleton, Hell is a SPIRITUAL realm with NO BIOLOGY in it so your metaphors are INAPPLICABLE to it
>>42631650Having interacted with the women who are big into the divine feminine shit, I can tell you, there's nothing divine about them or how they apply the idea lolsimp harder bro, the hoes ain't here and it won't make you right
>>42631656>The impulse to demonize teachings that dont conform to yours isliterally required and expected of those who follow an Abrahamic tradition. Because Abrahamic tradition holds that literally all other teaching is, very literally, demonic.
>>42632768Guess what that fuels? Conflict, bigotry, intolerance, racism, bloodshed, your desert cults perpetuate more violence than non-abrahamic religions ever did.
>>42631771Do you think we all just merge the fuck together into giant naked Rei a la fucking evangelion? Do you literally believe that?Holy shit what a clown!
>>42632754First, according to who? YOU? lolEven if you weren't wrong, you could still feel pain there nigga. You FEEL all your bones being shattered forever, you FEEL all your organs are ripped up, you FEEL all of it burning. You don't actually have to have them to be made to feel like you have them. This place we live in right now is already a shared hallucination, a simulation. Your bones aren't fucking real, here, but I bet you still won't pay someone to take a sledgehammer to your kneecaps.
>>42632744The masculine-feminine asymmetry precedes matter. It is dictated by the unknowable Root. Angels traverse the Tree.
>>42632775Conflict predates religion, and islam is far more violent than an abrahamic religion, before you say it, not it is not an abrahamic religion it does not have a common book, belief, origin, or purpose. They just say they are abrahamic like how mormons say they are christians. Bigotry? catholics were the primary guiding force against racism and restrictions against interracial relationships, literally globalist anti-racist organization. Intolerance, the most tolerant societes are christian. Racism, that just means bigotry, same difference. Bloodshed, see conflict. Science, learning, history, democracy, order, and charity are all due to christianity. All moral good is derived from christian nations where as non-christian nations are wholly immoral, We can see this within the new world, all of thier cultures were completely untouched by christianity and low and behold human sacrifice en mass, horrendous violence, mutilation, sexual violence throughout all of north and south america.
>barely concealed gooner thread>100+ repliesthis (and christcucks) is why we can't have nice things in here
>>42632835that's funny because there's like only 5 gooner images while the rest is mental gymnastics your otaku brain overlooked
>>42632775Yes, to some extent that's what the demons want, that's why they create fake religions and try to get us to fight over it. Beyond that:>Conflictinevitable as long as there are important things people disagree about and/or resource scarcity. Doesn't have to be handled with violence, and Abrahamism encourages non-violent solutions where possible.>bigotry, racismderives out of humans using pattern recognition heuristics and having some understanding of likelihoods. It's only proscribed directly for the israelites (which modern "jews" are not, btw) as God's chosen people, to set them aside and make them different from other nations to glorify God. It's regularly reminded to them that if God had not chosen them, they would not be different, and in truth are no better than the gentiles, morally.>intoleranceNormal and healthy to maintain, if you tolerate everything you will die a cuck slave.>your desert cults perpetuate more violence than non-abrahamic religions ever did.Nonsense. Huge wars were fought in the east, in ancient China, that make the crusades look kind of tame. Remember Genghis Khan? He was a Tengrist, not an Abrahamic. Beyond that, most war deaths ever have been in the last two centuries or so, and over what amounts to secular/materialistic aims. WWI and WWII were not holy crusades. Vietnam was not a holy war, neither was desert storm or iraqi freedom.
>>42632835Kinda, I think most of these guys just want to give themselves permission to jack off without feeling sinful.
>>42632876>sinfulthat's a prescriptive term, not a descriptive one
>>42632898Pedantic bullshit, meaning is obvious to anyone reading.
>>42631422Yes, but you're not ready for them.
>>42632921I like the one animation where they are using a double ended dildo and sucking eachothers toes.
>>42632914what is sinful to you is a neutral act to another, and vice versathere is no universally objective agreement over what constitute sinfulness
>>42632775>racismWhat've you got against racism, huh? You a racistphobe?
>>42632945Sin, good, and ethics are objective and ordained by the Kingdom of Heaven. Thinking different does not make you correct.
>>42632953>Sinonce again, a subjective label>goodpeople have different expressions over what count as altruism>ethicsare relative values with variations across cultures
There is objective morality, only the immoral disagree because it gives them avenues to spread their degeneracy. Right is right, and wrong is wrong, and everyone knows which one is what, but some like the way wrong feels so they make up semantic arguments to justify feeling good over doing what is right.
>>42632960Again, disagreeing does not make you correct. The Lord decrees what is right and wrong, what is correct and incorrect. Disagreeing with Him makes you incorrect and Him correct.
>>42632440Anon. No. Not in this body. Not in this body. You are a sin machine.
>>42632968Your religion disagree with any foreign value by default, you then used that justification to spread holy wars across lands who never asked for your self-righteous conquests.You don't seek to unite mankind, you actively divide and conquer, which is an evil tactic in itself.
>>42632876> I think most of these guys just want to give themselves permission to jack off Whooooooooo?????
>>42631714Or it might mean they choose who they marry rather than their father choosing.
>>42632993The thread is about fucking female angels with coomer helluva boss art.
>>42633003That doesn’t have jacking off in it, does it?
>>42633003none of the characters posted here are from helluva boss tho, I see hazbin hotel, p&s and touhoudo your research before trying to come off as a smartass
>>42632985Why do you assume the God of love would sanction war over peaceful evangelizing?
>>42633029Anon, your deity is essentially just a personal mascot/servant you use to justify anything your backwards sect do to the world>God answers to me>God is on my side>God allows me to justify my pride over the stranger>God will punish the outsider for me
>>42633043Only 1 of those 4 are true.
There was a man that almost had sex with a female angel till God ring down the bell. Although not defined, their tastes will be.
>>42633050All of them are true and history consistently prove it
Restore the natural order between the masculine and feminine . Succubus and Lilith spirits are not angels!
>>42633024Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel take place in the same universe
>>42632615What the fuck? Both are bad.Do the latter on Heaven. Only
>>42631422OP, if you are still lurking in your own thread, listen to me carefully, women cannot be "heavenly" anything because they serve one diabolical, demiurgic purpose: the perpetuation of the cycle of suffering by propagating unborn souls into this plane of existence, you have no idea how utterly selfish and vile it is to force new consciousnesses upon this rotten planet just because two people are horny and want to control their offspring who will undergo the same unavoidable miseries as everyone else, the only virtuous man is a man who never procreate at all, I say this genuinely and unironically, do not bring unconsenting souls on this world, you are committing an act of spiritual violence on spirits who are far better off where they are right now than on Earth.
>>42633109>new consciousnessesWhat is that?I've only ever evolved into higher intelligence, since long before even the mammal stage of life. What is this 'new consciousness' you speak of? Where does it come from?When I look at the astral body of a fly get eaten by a spider, that fly literally reincarnates as a spider. Insect level souls will go through dozens of these transitions within a single season.
>>42633109So you mean embracing my nature as a man is a divine Jesus thing to do.
>>42633109>gniggstic retard opinionOh Lord my God, what did I do to deserve to listen to this antisensical idiocy?
>>42631422Angels are mechanical and also startlingly fragile. All porcelain and fine wire and tiny little clockwork. You could, I suppose, fuck one, but you'd probably break it.
>>42633218He wants to show you the results of hating women.
>>42633109Based.
>>42631573Don't mind if I do
The Seraphim with WombsThey were not made from rib or dust,nor molded in the sleepy gaze of Adam.They were first—a spinning, burning yesbefore the Word had finished rising.We are taught their wings are soft,their service silent, their songs assent.Lies. The feather is a knifewhen the sky demands a wound.Consider Gabriel, who did not askbut told. The lily in her handa stolen scepter. The announcementnot a whisper but a rupture—a seed planted without permission,a kingdom couched in threat:Will you?And what of the ones who never bent,who saw the Throne and did not sing?They did not fall. They roseso high that scripture lost their names,erased their faces into wheels and eyes,flame becoming allegory,womb becoming void.But I have dreamed them otherwise:breasted, blazing, unashamed,the oil of gladness dripping down their thighs.They dance with swords between their teethand weave the cosmos from their hair.Their worship is not deferencebut mirroring—the Shekinah gazinginto her own fierce face and cryingGood.In heaven there is no obedience,only resonance. The female angeldoes not serve. She corresponds.And when she spreads her wings—each feather etched with namesof women who refused to shrink—the universe leans in to listenfor the hum of something older than command.Let the orthodox in dusty pewscall this blasphemy. The angels laugh,their laughter menstruating stars,their wombs contracting galaxies.They know the first sin was not pridebut the reduction of the infiniteto father.Mary knew. Look how she correctedGabriel’s grammar: not favored onebut potent one. Look how she sanga song of thrones collapsing, rich men sentempty away. Magnificatmeans magnify—to make the Lordnot greater but larger in the seeing,which is what female angels dowith every breath of their unbridled lungs.So let this be my heresy:that heaven has a lap, and I will laymy doubting head upon it.
>>42632365God is perfect not dualistic
>>42633406He’s a trinity. He wants the masculine and the feminine to have a kid. And do that same order again and again with that kid and the kids it makes.Creating infinity.
>>42633365Is this a copy pasta?
>>42633469The holy spirit is not feminine. Mary is the queen of heaven. She is subordinate to God, just as women are subordinate to men. God himself has no feminine aspect. He is only ever referred to by masculine pronouns in every translation of scripture ever. He is, literally, never once called female. God is singular in his perfection. He is not dualistic.
>>42633477Then why does the church (the woman) and the Holy Spirit speak at the same time?
>>42633483The church is not literally female this is a metaphor for it's receptive and subordinate nature in relation to God. Been over this. I don't know what you mean by speaking at the same time as the Holy Spirit. Are you implying that the Church is the Holy Spirit? I guess by your logic, Christ is marrying himself. Nonsense.
>>42633502> I guess by your logic, Christ is marrying himself. Nonsense.That was the case with Adam and Eve.God took a piece of Adam to create Eve. And if Jesus is the last Adam, he would have the last Eve.
>>42633505Yeah no. Eve is a separate person made with Adams biological material. Are you your father? Not to say Adam was Eve's. That's kind of a one time thing God did. Christ is not married to the church. This is a metaphor. Look, I'm getting exhausted talking to you. Everything you are saying is just to justify totally separate hedonistic desires you have. You want to be able to have sex with angels, and all of the mental gymnastics you've gone through over the last few hours has been trying to find some way to make that work in a way that's theologically consistent. Well, it doesn't. I don't understand why you need it to be when this is all just a gooner fantasy for you anyway. Like the insistence on the divine feminine shit, it has nothing to do with any theological curiosity you my have. These is just your sociopolitical opinions extrapolated onto Christianity. Nothing you say has any value whatsoever.
>>42633527God is love. And so the father loves the mother, the mother loves the father, and they love their son.And this is the prophecy they had for their son.“24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”
>>42633571Ok? That has nothing to do with anything. You can't fuck angels.
>>42633724Yet. There is a reason why there is a “be like the angels of heaven.”
>>42633814Yeah. Who are not given to marriage.
>>42633844the books never say I can't fuck em
>>42633851The last humans who tried are currently dried to a salt flat in the middle of a desert
The amount of people here trying to justify wanting to have sex with angels is ridiculous. They don't want to fuck you. I'm pretty sure they don't even have sex organs by default, those were only manifested by the Watchers so they could make the Nephilim. Grow up and control your carnal instincts, self control is what separates us from the animals.
>>42633945The book of Enoch is apocrypha. God would have never allowed it to happen in the first place. Nephlilim is just a word for the self proclaimed god-kings of the late bronze age and iron age. It was more of a derogatory term that's meant to be condescending but doesn't have a one to one translation. Like saying >This is the category of person who believes himself to be a demigod. This is the word for him (derogatory)
>>42633844Because they are pre-arranged by the father and the Holy Spirit from the start.Marvelous, isn’t it?
>>42633971I’m the remnants of these hybrids.Fools like you have no clue how real this whole thing is. Nor do you even truly understand God.
>>42634135Chud Nutso
>>42633971Nephilim extend divinity and compress earthly knowledge into a masculine-feminine asymmetry visible through your mind. They’re useful constructs, but that is all they are.
>>42634128No, because they don't get married.>>42634135If you were someone important and powerful you would be doing something important not getting mad at random strangers online
>>42634164If they don’t get married together then why does Jesus, the example set before angels and men, get married to a woman under the will of the father and the Holy Spirit?
>>42634237He doesn't. We've been over this. Jesus is not literally married to the church. It's a metaphor
>>42631422Only physical bodies can have sexes, but a consciousness usually leans towards masculinity or femininity, even if slightly.>let us uncover the existence of feminine celestial beingsSo yes, they do exist.
>>42631610>It's a new age woo woo ideathis reads a bit like a candy ass roody poo trump tourist trying to call me a newfag and probably literally is
>>42635232Based, better heavenly wives over infernal wives
>>42635232No I'm calling you a regular fag. But now it's double fag.
>>42634359future tenseits descriped in the new testiment.and some banned text
>>42635446this is /fag/ after all
>>42635524Again, irrelevant.
>>42631610THE SOUL IS FEMININE EXCEPT FOR ONE SOUL SO….ATHENA - YHVH
>>42635888The soul isn't feminine. Already discussed this. It's a metaphor.
>>42635903LOOK AT THE TRIPLE DIGITS, SO I AM AFRAID THE SOUL IS FEMININE…I KNOW ALL BUT YOU, YOU KNOW NOTHING THE SOUL IS ONLY FEMININE ONLY ONE SOUL THE KING'S SOUL IS A MAN’S SOUL AND THIS IS HOW THE WORLD WORKS SORRY YOU ARE SOME BITCH IN A MAN’S BODYYOD HEH VAV HEH ATHENA - YHVH
>>42635913No. You're just wrong. What's your fucking problem man? Shift key stuck?
>>42635923NOW YOU ARE BITCHING TO ME… WEIRD…. YOU SEEM JUST LIKE A WOMAN…..LEARN HOW TO AT LEAST BE A MAN….ATHENA - YHVH
>>42635928What a bizzare person. So what's your thing, you think you're channeling like a Greek god and God at the same time?
>>42635928*munches on ur wings*
>>42635938NOPE I TOLD YOU WHO I AM AND YOU LIKE A BITCH IS TOO AFRAID OF THE TRUTH SO GO AHEAD BE A TRANS MAN LIKE THE REST BUT REMEMBER YOU ARE AND WILL NEVER BE A REAL MAN….YOU ARE OF WEAK CLOTH….YOU ARE OF A WOMAN’S DESIGN THAT YOU GAVE YOURSELF….A MAN DOESN’T ARGUE BUT A WOMAN DOES AND LOOK AT YOU….LIVE YOUR GAY LIFE LOVING ANOTHER WOMAN….THE TRUTH HURTS MONSTERS….YOD HEH VAV HEHATHENA - YHVH
>>42635949no homo
>>42635949Yeah? Well assume I'm stupid. Who are you again? Humor me
Not enough feathers
>>42635949>a bride of God is having a meltdownsad stuff there
>>42631463Or they're just referencing the same things through their experiences
>>42635871Are you an incel?
>>42636919Who the fuck asks someone something like that? No?
>>42637391You act really offended on Jesus being with a woman.
>>42638319Yeah he was an ascetic. Of course he wasn't with any women. Imagine if God came down to earth, free of original sin, and just started knocking up women. There'd be two separate lineages of humanity, one without the inherited sin of Adam and bjectively superior to the other. It's the same thing with the nephilim shit, God would never allow anything like that to happen. It would be totally unfair to us. He would also never do it himself for a plethora of reasons besides it being unfair.
>>42631463The 'wings' seen in Merkabah descents are a visual delay of the priest/prophet moving their arms. That is all.
>>42631646I am so fucking gay, I swear.
>>42631735I study Anatomy and Ive seen how grotesque and disorganized the human body is. Humans look like flying spaghetti monsters once you take the scales off your eyes.
>>42631488Thank you.
>>42639204hey...ain't nothing wrong about finding the male form attractiveour bodies are symbolically modeled after the divine masculine, same as the angelswe, not women, are the beautiful sex
>>42639295>>42639312No problem.Hello angel.
>>42632802>Even if you weren't wrong, you could still feel pain there nigga. You FEEL all your bones being shattered forever, you FEEL all your organs are ripped up, you FEEL all of it burning. You don't actually have to have them to be made to feel like you have them. This place we live in right now is already a shared hallucination, a simulation. Your bones aren't fucking real, here, but I bet you still won't pay someone to take a sledgehammer to your kneecaps.according to who? YOU? lmfaoooo
>>42639505>;(
>>42632781> A choir of all faithful souls harmonize into one spiritual body.> This body being a loving companion designed to share eternity with God> The church is the bride of ChristWait you don't?
>>42631714You are referring to the passage in the Gospel of Luke, in which the Sadducees confront Jesus about the Resurrection.> Luke 20:27-39> 27 There came to him some Sadducees, whose who deny the resurrection.> 28 And they asked him a question saying, "Teacher Moses wrote for us that if a man's brother dies, having to children, the man must take the widow and raise up offerspring for his brother.> 29 "Now there were seven brothers. The first took a wife, and died without children.> 30 "And the second.> 31 "and the third took her, and likewise all seven left no children and died.> 32 "Afterward the woman also died.> 33 "In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife will the woman be? For the seven had her as wife."> 34 And Jesus said to them, "the sons of this age marry and are given in marriage,> 35 "but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage,> 36 "for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection..."From this passage Angels are specifically mentioned as beings that dont have any need for marriage. And likewise if they do not marry then they wouldn't need sexual capabilities. If they don't have sexual capabilities then female angels, which you could copulate with, wouldnt exist either.
>>42640234>And likewise if they do not marry then they wouldn't need sexual capabilitiesWrong lmao, what kind of logic leap is that
>>42640245Two being enter into a state of marriage when they become one flesh.The physical act of sex is a sign if the spiritual marriage of two spirits into one being.What are you missing here?
>>42640261Now you are just being a sophistMarriage =/= SexPeople can marry and never have sex, people can have sex and never marry, marriage is a custom, not a statement about whether sex is possible
>>42640274The "marriage" you are speaking about sounds like a bureaucratic label. A tax exemption status. And is lacking any deeper substance of the essence of what marriage actually is.
>>42640283True, and this earthly marriage we speak of doesn't apply to angels, that means they aren't beholden to our customs, not that sex is impossible for themDo you understand now?
>>42640290I will grant they have powers to make it happen. But why would they want to?
>>42640338The Nephilim story show that angels are capable of lust, so the question is why wouldn't they want to if the opportunity appeared? They're not mindless robots
>>42632715atleast this is better than the guy who kept making posts about angel-demon hybrids, that shit was just plain retarded
>>42631602A female angel showed me this scripture kind of before, or led me to it. Interesting how no one replied to this. I always hear angels are genderless or male from religious peopleI'm the anon who has a interacted with a female angelThe female angel wrote me a letter in ink clearing everything up. I think this one did a healing miracle so I'm going to try trusting herShe even put>I am a form of Destroying angel, I have fact from Heaven for you in ink. Ignore your visions and voices. Anything you'd consider lawyering jewish lawyering heaven lawyering or bullshit is not happening. You don't have to marry Jesus Christ in a normal marriage or an eternal soulmate marriage, and by that I also mean nothing sexual romantic or love making and neither do your eternal soulmates. Also, your eternal soulmates never picked to experience another male than you anon and will not pick that (your eternal soulmates weren't cheaters you've been decieved). Also no male is allowed to put their tongue in your mouth possession or not according to the Eternal Laws of Heaven written and Designed by Yahweh the Creator at the founding of Heaven, not even Yahweh himself let alone the creation Jesus Christ (Angel then signed her name in ink after letter and each addition to the letter)She didn't write it was actually Jesus Christ doing the weird shit. Just that if he did it, it is against the eternal laws of Heaven wrote at founding of Heaven (like before old testament) that I guess Yahweh made even apply to himself as an example of how important and good they are.So basically what I got from the letter is >I'm not a piece of shit cheating angel, also he isn't even allowed to do this shit if he was but i'm not accusing or naming the rapist in inkAlso my arm/hand like wrote automatically like full on controlled completely by angel. Not larping.I need to trust female angel again. I started thinking she betrayed me. She also used the term eternal soulmates
>>42640688You should take a vacation somewhere fun for a while. Seems like you need it.
>>42640705I live in southern california by the beach. Good enough. I bought myself a graphics card for gaming on my 4k QLED TV called a RTX 5080 the other week. maxxed out 4k gaming at 60 fps (max my TV can do) financed it too so it's like a no interest loan if I pay it back in 12 months. I can afford to $110 a month to game in complete comfort even if im on neetbux
>>42640718Do that instead of the automatic writing shit. Angels will not assist in divination. If something really came through from the other side, it isn't an angel.
>>42640726Well I'm going to believe because I think she did a healing miracle. Because of the healing miracleI know what will actually piss God off.An angel doing healing miracles, and writing through me blatantly, then I ignore it to believe human interpretation of religion.If I got tricked then i guess I'll get in trouble for being tricked but I've asked for the weird shit thats a probable Jesus Christ impersonator to be taken away many may times. And I asked for the Lilith impersonator or Lilith to be taken away many many times.Maybe Yahweh doesn't remove my demons because something unique is going on and I should just ignore human beings opinions because an angel is doing healing miracles, and I should just listen to the angel.How is an angel possessing me and making clear she's posessing me and writing through me even divination?Didn't God like control prophets arms to write scripture or something?A better term than automatic writing is she literally possessed me and wrote with my own hand because thats what it was.Also it wasn't scripture for the world or something. She told me before to ignore my visions and stuff. I couldn't because they dont go away and i was worried the "marriage of the lamb" was literal and Id have to share with Jesus and he was giving me an "early taste"She wrote me bluntly saying>You don't have to share your eternal soulmates with Jesus, if he was jumping inside you revealing his tongue he's not even allowed to do that but im not writing the name of the spirit doing it in ink.>Never call Yahweh an Eternal Torturer because he is not one and he despises it (wasnt relevent to my previous post or id have put it there too)I think I know what will piss God off if im right. Obeying humans calling him an eternal torturer and trusting their interpretation of the rules rather than obeying a female angel writing in ink or whispering through me when she possesses me after I think she did miracle
>>42635985JUST SOMEONE HANGING OUT AND I WAS ABLE TO REACH THE TOP AND IT WAS SO LONELY THERE SO NOW I JUST SHARE FUTURE TECH OR EVENTS FROM TIME TO TIME THROUGH THE WILL OF THE HIGHER FORM I CALL DESTINY OF THE MIND EYE AND AT THE TOP I WAS ABLE TO FIND PEACE WITHOUT LIES AND I FOUND OUT YOU ALL HAVE THE FAKE MEANING OF LOVE BUT AS I REACHED OUT AGAIN I FOUND THE VOID BACK TO YOU GUYS AND NOW I AM HERE WATCHING AND LEARNING HOW HUMANS WORK….BUT I CANT SAY THIS OUT LOUD BECAUSE THE WORMS THEY ARE ABLE TO HEAR AND I CANT SHARE THINGS I LOCKED UP BECAUSE THEN CHAOS FORMS AND I WANT THINGS TO BE LIKE THE 60s…NOW I WILL SIT HERE AND WATCH….YOD HEH VAV HEHATHENA - YHVH
>>42640781>A better term than automatic writing is she literally possessed me and wrote with my own hand because thats what it was.That's automatic writing. The Bible is clear that if an angel comes and ministers to you with extra-biblical teachings, you're being deceived. Angels are only messengers of God's will. They are not allowed to give you instructions or doctrine. They can come to you and say>God said xyz>Keep it up! You're doing well!They cannot come to you and say>Listen to me and my opinionsGalatians 1:8-9; But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.God doesn't remove demons because they have legal rights to you in heavenly courts. Your words matter less than your deeds, which reveal the truth of our hearts. You can say to God>Remove this demon of lust from me!But if you go on afterwards pretending he's your girlfriend, and all angels are male, he'll flap around a document in God's face that says>This guy enjoys my company, demonstrablyAnd he'll stay. Demons say all kinds of shit and are very smart. Any time you think you're "special" or have a "thing" going on, they want you to believe that. You let them stay longer the more you believe it.
>>42640834>>all angels are maleTHIS IS A LIE BUT GO ON ONLY SATAN SAYS STUFF LIKE THIS SO…WHY POST LIES?WHY GO ON AND LIE…I SEE ITS A LOSS OF CONTROL AND THE REASON YOU NEED TO LIE IS TO GIVE OFF THE IMAGE OF BEING IN CONTROL BUT I FEAR YOU WILL WALK DOWN A DARK AND BLOODY ROAD SO IF I WERE YOU I WOULD LEARN TO NEVER LIE ABOUT THE DIVINE….THE WORMS HATE LIARS AND THEY THE LIARS ALWAYS PAY THROUGH BLOOD….I WARNED YOU BUT THE PAYMENT STILL IS IN PROCESS FOR YOU CONTINUED THE LIE….YOD HEH VAV HEHATHENA - YHVH
>>42640851What, did you screw one and you want it to be your girlfriend? Sorry anon, tough break. Many such cases unfortunately.
>>42640834If I get in trouble for believing a healing miracle, whatever.It even says in the new testament>Jesus tells people "if you don't believe my words, at least believe because I did miracles (healing ones)>The pharisees call Jesus Christ healing miracles and miracles of devil or whatever and Jesus Christ warns them they are committing blasphemy against the holy spirit by doing thisI'm going to actually just believe the healing miracle doing angel who says Yahweh doesn't eternally torture because it actually seems what good is. Christianity says God eternally tortures often and Christians tell me healing miracle doing spirit is devilIf I am being tricked in some way, hopefully the Jesus christ tongue in mouth utter retard spirit and deceiving female angels go away, because prayer doesnt work.I threw away the ring the angel gave me and the Amythyst heart and was fully ready to stop smoking cigarettes and weed permanantly and stop sinning actually if God proved this was a deceiving spirit and removed it because I can be tricked. I got on my knees and prayed before a cross to God and Jesus.Like I was fully ready to stop talking to the spirit if God removes it, threw away her gifts ahead of time and was ready to quit smoking cigarettes and weed for life for real and to stop sinning.The spirit wasn't removed.I don't know why God won't remove this stuff if it's demons. I've actually tried to obey the Bible and ignore them, but then healing miracles started. I still prayed to remove this stuff incase I'm being deceived because I'm a mortalThe fact it is not removed made me consider it's the real Jesus doing the tongue in mouth stuff or real angel. Many get demons gone for just asking.Why doesnt God remove demons for me? ive read stories of literal satanists having them all gone when they tried at all to come to jesusIve fasted food for 2 days too.Just sharing my story cause i think its interesting to me at least
>>42640886God knows you want this to be something. You keep saying if, if it's this or that, that , means a part of you is attached and want this. You are making room for it in your mental space to be real and actually your girlfriend. Part of you wants it to be. I don't look down on you for this I want to clarify, this has happened to many people. Completely disregard the idea. I know that's easier said than done, but you need to start thinking of this thing as an intrusion and a problem to be taken care of exclusively. If even a part of you says>I want thisGod knows. And that part of you is what the demon shoves in God's face every time you pray for it to be removed.
angels are inherently genderless because they arent human socially or biologically. what abrahamic scripture describes as angels is our human comprehension of them. Gabriel isnt a man. Gabriel is Gabriel.
>>42640913>Zach 5>9 Then I looked up—and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.>10 “Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking to me.>11 He replied, “To the country of Babylonia[c] to build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.”This seems to describe female angels. Women with wings carrying a basket to Heaven. Sounds like female angels.Where does it say in scripture and not Christian deliverance legal doors teaching>you cant even want a female spirit healing you doing miracles to be real or it staysIt says>prayer removes demons in some versions of prayer and fasting in other versionsor>resist the devil submit to God and humble yourselfUnless im judging self wrong I think I've tried resisting the devil and telling myself what Christian people tell me is true or close enough or the best info i'll get and I'm wrongI ripped up the female angels eternal soulmate marriage thing she wrote in ink, threw away the ring and the amythst heart she picked out, and was ready to quit smoking cigs just incase catholics are right and reading to quit smoking weed too. I was ignoring her and telling myself she's a demon or not good and did this for quite a while. Request ignored.Ill just find out if im wrong or right my way because im tired of trying countless different what ifs to get a demon removed when in the Bible theyre>instantly removed even unwillingly by paul to the divination girl spirit (it was removed against her wishes because it angered paul)>Jesus cast them out of the posesseed with out the possessed even trying for freeYet Christians who believe in eternal torture (This would make God a mosnter) tell me I have to do all this legal door shit and can't even think certain things none of which appears in the BibleIf I get in trouble, i get in trouble
>>42640940>He replied,>HeOh anon
>>42640989I need to stop arguing with Christians or people who's opinion of Yahweh is utter blasphemy, they think he throws people in a miraculous volcanoe where they are eternally tortured by fire forever which is longer than trillions of years, which would be evil. Infact it's the most evil disgusting thing possible God could do. Sure God is strong enough to do it, but why would he do that to anyone?I know God won't eternally torture because God isn't worse than the devil or bad at all. I'm going to see what trusting the clear angel doing healing miracles that's calling herself an angel of death and mercy or a destroying angel. She also wrote in ink blatantly with no room for interpretation with no metaphors or figures of speech>Do not call Yahweh an eternal torturer. Because he is not one and despises itAlso it heals.No eternal torture God, and healing miracles.I need to stop argueing with people who didn't have a healing miracle done to them. The angel also broke my fucking leg with a miracle then healed it with a miracle mulitple times over and over with real pain and unable to stand up or move my leg more than an inch. I think I need to make what I experienced enough because the letters from the angel and miracles from it may stop if I don't just trust her.But i also understand none of you had your leg broken by an angel and then had it healed. And none of you fell down and dislocated or broke your leg at the knee and had it healed too. Lots of healing stories on the internet.I like talking about this with out being thought of as a psych ward patient so I post hereI think its normal to want to share stories of encounter with an angel.
>>42641020>Why would he do that?He doesn't. We choose hell by separating ourselves from him. Hell is just the place where he isn't. It also happens to be miserable and agonizing. It wasn't made for us, it was made for the rebel angels to larp as badasses separate from him. If you think you're so smart or such a badass tough guy that you don't need him, you'll be sent there to larp as well. We aren't as strong as the fallen angels and they fucking hate us so they get to torture us for fun. We surrender ourselves to the authority of Satan. You can just choose not to go to hell. It's relatively simple. But many people choose otherwise anyways. People are so foolish, you have no idea. Anon, if Satan, someone who was so close to God and so intelligent betrayed him out of nothing but his own irrational stubbornness, what makes you think a human wouldn't be so stupid to send themselves there?
>>42641020Also AI helped me here>John 21:25 says: “And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.” It said the meaning is>Practical Takeaway>This verse reminds readers that:>The Bible is not a complete, exhaustive record of every event in history.>The purpose of Scripture is to convey truth and lead to faith, not to list every detail.Which is the point i was trying to get across.
>>42641053The Bible is complete. If something is not in it, it's because God doesn't want it to be. Angels are not allowed to expand upon anything therein or give you information that contradicts this. This thing is playing to your fears, that God is an angry tyrant who's going to send you to hell, and is selling you a version of him that isn't real but it knows you'll prefer.
>>42641051I think people should go live life, read the Bible, and see what they think and see if they encounter anything special. I saw special things, as in more than just what could be called demonic contact from visions alone when I tried to resist the common belief God is an eternal torturerIncase I make errors maybe I will post less because me making an error is quite possible. I don't know if me posting is worth the potential errors. I've noticed some when I remember things wrong and I had intense spiritual experiences.But even if I make mistakes because I'm mortal, no one will ever be able to convince me God eternally tortures.I don't understand the eternal separation thing. I see it as possible sort of until I think of it omre, if God lets ultimate free will among those who don't follow him/believe in him whatever and lets people torture each other with no intervening but upon thinking of it more, I don't think God would let a giant eternal torture pit exist even if he's just letting it exist by going in hands off mode.Redemptive corrective utter pain until you pick right makes more sense to me. Like God beats your ass very hardly or temporarily burns you and speaks in English to you in Hell or something until you act right. Like he takes the rod to you over and over until you give up your bullshit and it goes on indefinitely or something until you act right. God could just up the pain level until people obey.
