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Welcome to Energy Cultivation General! here we discuss the theory/practice of energy cultivation where we help guide and help each other to higher planes of being

>What is this energy you speak of?
Qi, ki, aether, orgone, archeus, etheric energy, vital life-essence, prana, chi, mana, vital energy, Vril, life force, Nen and quintessence
(Or whatever you call it.)
Is the forgotten (not so forgotten) Energy which radiates within every life form. small or big, "weak and strong".

>Why cultivate it
Improved... Physical/joint Health, Mental health, Spiritual health, Mental clarity, perception, creativity, mood, companion, strength/mobility, etc

>Ok I'm sold, where do I start
(research extensively on each subject, (take a look at the /ECG/ library for other books and subjects) then practice the one you resonate with the most (doing multiple cultivation practices at the same time is not advised))

>/ECG/ Library (Do NOT try to contact or email op)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wMiUyWg2JnGFCwC36KubXLPRQMRE2dO7?direction=a

>Taoist
https://archive.org/details/howtodevelopchip0000will
https://files.catbox.moe/z1ncts.pdf
(Advanced)
https://ia803101.us.archive.org/6/items/LuKuanYuTaoistYogaAlchemyAndImmortality/Lu%20K'uan%20Yu%20-%20Taoist%20Yoga%20-%20Alchemy%20and%20Immortality_text.pdf

>Qigong (topics from Taoism cross over here)
88(start here)--> https://archive.org/details/QigongMeditation.EmbryonicBreathingByYangJwingMing/mode/1up <--(start here)88
https://archive.org/details/quigongmeditationsmallcirculationyangjwingming_202002
https://dyhr.com/qigong/Chinese%20Soaring%20Crane%20Qigong.pdf
https://rexresearch1.com/AlchemyArchives/1TaoistAlchemy/DanaosMagusJavaTaoistImmortal.pdf
https://www.scribd.com/document/539837106/Yongsheng-Bi-Chinese-Qigong-Outgoing-Qi-Therapy-r
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>>42646163
> Kundalini
https://ia801602.us.archive.org/35/items/folder-20230407-20/Kundalini%20Tantra.pdf
88(start here)--> https://www.baytallaah.com/bookspdf/jonn%20mumford%20-%20chakra%20&%20kundalini%20workbook%20%5Bocr%5D.pdf <--(start here)88
https://archive.org/details/BiologyOfKundalini_201903/page/n28/mode/1up
https://maypoleofwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/ajit-mookerjee-kundalini-the-arousal-of-the-inner-energy.pdf
https://ia801902.us.archive.org/2/items/KundaliniEnergyOfTheDepthsLilianSilburn/Kundalini%20Energy%20of%20the%20Depths%20-%20Lilian%20Silburn.pdf
https://www.scribd.com/document/848500622/Kundalini-Psychosis-or-Transcendence-text
>I don't want to read some scitzo bs
Here is an academic reference https://www.theosophy.world/sites/default/files/ebooks/Goswami/Laya-Yoga%20by%20Shyam%20Sundar%20Goswami_0.pdf
>I'm Christian, this got to be Satanic or something
Nw https://www.sheshnaag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/kundalini_and_christianity.pdf

>reiki (search on annas library)
https://archive.org/details/spiritofreikicom0000lube
https://www.scribd.com/document/897977387/Reiki-the-Healing-Touch-First-and-Second-Degree-Manual-William-Lee-Rand-JRT-Hayashi-Healing-Guide-Ed-Updated-Ed-Southfield-Vision
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>>42646165
>Vril/other
88(start here)--> https://dn721604.ca.archive.org/0/items/bruce-robert-new-energy-ways/Bruce%2C%20Robert%20-%20New%20Energy%20Ways.pdf <--(start here)88
88(start here)--> https://ia803200.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/26/items/ebook-buddhism-2/EBOOK%20BUDDHISM%202.rar&file=EBOOK%20BUDDHISM%202%2FSUDAH%2FNOVICE%2FENG%2FUpasaka%20Culadasa_The%20Mind%20Illuminated.pdf <--(start here)88
right concentration a practical guide to the jhanas (on annas library)
https://libraryofagartha.com/Ancient%20History/Hyperborea%20and%20Atlantis/VRIL%20Compendium%20Vol%202%20VRIL%20Telegraphy-%20(%20PDFDrive%20).pdf
https://monoskop.org/images/c/c9/Becker_Robert_Selden_Gary_The_Body_Electric_Electromagnetism_and_the_Foundation_of_Life.pdf
https://archive.org/details/vril-compendium-vol-1-vril-white-ray-conductors/page/n201/mode/2up
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>>42646172
If this doesn't fit your taste you can find search for them here

(warning like 50Gb (selectively downland what you want)
Energy Healing
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ddef332eb2e7b45b7d50f6924f2ff73fe6141557&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fconcen.org%3A6969&dn=Theoccult.click+Content+Leaked+%28Part14%29+EnergyHealing&xl=68476885815

(warning like 300Gb (selectively downland what you want)
Taoism, Daoism
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d6cc2a6223094d53986ab5f4bdc826248922d262&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fconcen.org%3A6969&dn=Theoccult.click+Content+Leaked+%28Part21%29+Taoism+Daoism&xl=26439638413

TLDR: Just practice/partake in: fasting, a raw diet, overt-generosity, celibacy, compassionate action, breathwork, meditation and adventure

Pervious thread:https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/42621439/#42621439
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>>42646176
(Not me talking)
Look for the links which have the
88(start here)--> Name <--(start here)88
These are all legit and helpful sources verified by me another multiple other people, just remember everyone is different, what worked for you wont work for others thats why there is a range of methods to use.
You should expect to see notable results (and not just "I felt a tingle up my ass" as in you will be energised and be able to clearly define your energy) around 2-3 weeks in, keep going for a couple months there wont be a doubt in your mind, if you ------>continuously/constantly<----- do the methods linked in the sources.

IF you are New New I unironically recommend N.E.W energy ways and embryonic breathing, the results are the quickest

Also If you want to a goal to head for as a beginner. Here is one everyone should do

IMPORTANT
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GOAL: Master stillness
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IMPORTANT
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Slow day hu?
tbf it is a weekday
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>>42647681
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What does this mean
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>>42647715
just thought they should be included
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What book is effective and good for beginners to learn about this topic?
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>>42650267
please read the OP or just look at the book provided
88(start here)--> https://archive.org/details/QigongMeditation.EmbryonicBreathingByYangJwingMing/mode/1up <--(start here)88
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>>42650499
battlin the jannies that want /x/ to be bat boy tier with no good info so they shoah every thread with good info
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Satanist turned Taoist here. Should I throw out all my satanic stuff in my house with demon names, etc?
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>>42657806
When you name something you have power over it. That is one of the first teaching in the bible when God asked adam to name the plants and animals. You identified it and gave it a consciousness in your conscience. That is the fruit of good. You have the power over any demon given that you exist: I am
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OP, if I’m already doing Robert Bruce’s energy work should I also look into embryonic breathing? You say not to mix systems that’s why I am asking
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>>42657872
How do women breathe when they give birth?

In india this is called pranayama

Prana means life and yama means death.

There is also such a thing called: amrit chakra

...Which feels like dripping nectar

But you are too stupid and illusory to care.

One day you will begin to crystalize like a quantum flux.

Then you will care.

And not be hard hearted
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>>42657872
How's the energy work system working out for you?
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>>42657872
embryonic breathing is a foundational technique, not its own system
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Do you guys meditate?

How do I start, any resources that I can read and follow in order to meditating like a pro.
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>>42659382
read olfactoryanon
there was a good thread yesterday but of course the jannies had to shoah it
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>>42659382
Depends entirely on what you're trying to achieve
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Last night I was doing a quick half lotus mediation, then after a while -- even though I was perfectly still -- it was if my mind was spinning counter clockwise; I tried to control it but at most I could make my mind spin clockwise until it would could back to CC. It was so prevalent I had to stop mediating.
And this was the spinning you would get if you would just spin around physically.
Why was this?

- Quick note: I tired out Sema (Sufi whirling) for the first time a couple hours before this, maybe that effected it.
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>>42659882
>maybe that affected it.
ya think
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>>42660330
Not really, because I was doing it clockwise and it was like hours ago so it shouldn't of effected me then
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>>42660576
I read about it and it 100% seems to be the case from my pov
good bit of advice,
if you don a bunch of random chikung crap, you're gonna have a bad time
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>>42660594
>if you don a bunch of random chikung crap, you're gonna have a bad time
Not necessary, rn its pretty hot where I live due to the summer, but after doing some MoPai my body T is really low because I'm trying to do something. the upside is that the heat doesn't bother me anymore, the downside is that if i go to any room with air conditioning it feels like a freezer
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>>42660620
>but after doing some MoPai
anyone still practicing from Jim's piecemeal notes these days needs their head checked
Jim could not even communicate directly with John
he did things wrong because of that
he's dead now
Kosta should never have given his notes to kids as if he were giving a box of matches to some toddlers and telling them to run off and have fun
the only reasonable advice for people who are that hellbent on learning mopai is to go train with their cousin lineage on the thunder path, but then again master Jiang killed himself from doing things wrong too
then again #2, that costs money and anyone practicing mopai is too broke or cheap to pay the thunder path folks
not too much help can be given for people that want to play with that fire.
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>>42660659
I'm fully aware of the risks; I'm still doing to do it.
I'm just not going to tell people how I do it.
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>>42660684
sorry to hear that anon, please accept my condolences
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>>42646163
I've activated my Kundalini. I am cultivating prana. I'm ready to battle any Reptilian, pedo cabal, archon, Demiurge
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I started cycling energy through all 3 centers instead of just my navel center yesterday. my chest is very hard to feel compared to forehead and below navel. I felt the cool yin go down my nose as soon as I tried my forehead. Now today I keep seeing... Things? It's almost like waves randomly moving off my phone or the wall or myself in the mirror kind of glitching into a different version of me for a moment. it isn't disturbing in any sense just.. there?

what's up with that did I fucky something
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>>42662309
I also have no hunger today and couldn't sleep for more than a handful of hours, though I don't know if I'd say I feel well rested. It's been a while since I tried cycling my energy in general and I think those were normal reactions for me though, I don't really remember
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>>42660789
didnt we already win the great war basically?
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>>42662517
Last i checked we lost and have been enslaved by Reptilians as loosh cattle
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>>42657881
This is a tad unrelated, but do you have a favorite translation of The Vedas, Upanishads, or Gita?
I already bought some, but I'd love any input on this.
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>>42662309
You should only really focus on your LD if you do that, it will naturally overflow to your MD and HD
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>>42660620
> but after doing some MoPai
The fact that stuff is actually is happing is probably the worst case scenario, rip
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Time to give some quick recaps of some methods from the last thread
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>>42664927
(1) NATURAL BREATHING (WITH THE ABDOMEN) (1)

1. Relax your body.
2. Close your eyes and look at the tip of the nose.
3. Stop all thoughts in your mind.
4. Concentrate your mind to see inside the dan-tien center.
5. Inhale slowly (6 seconds) directly into the ocean of chi while expanding the abdomen.
6. Relax the abdomen exhaling slowly 6 seconds.
7. Repeat this exercise a minimum of 10 minutes if other methods will be exercised simultaneously, 20 minutes if not.
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>>42664940
(2) CONTROLLED BREATHING (2)

1. Inhale 50% into the ocean of chi while expanding the abdomen.
2. Hold the breath for three heartbeats.
3. Inhale the remaining 50% without exhalation.
4. Hold the breath for five heartbeats.
5. Relax and exhale slowly.
6. Repeat for minimum of 10 minutes.
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>>42664949
A small note:
This exercise is a method is also a method of which ancient Taoists practiced holding the breath to make sure it passed through the entire body from the nose and mouth to the ten fingers. This began with an apprenticeship and holding the breath from three to twelve counts and was known as a small series (hsiao tung); one hundred twenty counts was a large series (da tung); from the large series one was able to cure himself and treat his at around 300 counts "the eyes no longer see, the ears no longer hear, the heart no longer thinks", exhalation is then little by little to avoid decompression. When able to hold the breath a count of one thousand, one is near to attaining immortality. illnesses through breathing.
Though I will never advocate for this ancient method and believe it to have serious disadvantage when not exercised properly. A master should be consulted when practicing the large series of holding the breath. However, if controlled breathing is practiced it will serve to regulate the breath and cultivate the postnatal chi energy.
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>>42664954
>this and the next one are going to get more advanced
(3) ANUS CONTROL AND BREATHING (3)
1. Push the anus forward and upward to the navel, relax and push the anus backwards and upwards toward ming men (without regulating the breath).
2. Inhale slowly, expanding the abdomen and simultaneously pushing the anus toward the navel. Without relaxing, exhale slowly pushing the anus toward ming men. 72 times. Repeat
3. The eyes should be closed to keep the spirit from wandering outside and the mind concentrating on the lower abdomen. At no time should the middle channel be exercised this way.
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>>42664961
A small note:
The anus serves an important function in qigong (this is just the truth, any serious cultivator knows this).
A crude analogy is tying a knot in a balloon to keep the air inside. Being able to control the anus will keep the internal organs tight, and that is the secret to obtaining abdominal power and prolonging life. Indian Yoga practice emphasizes the anus, believing that anus strength will prolong a dying man's life by several days.
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>>42664970
Also to expand on the last step
Do not push the anus upward toward the Chung Mai channel, to do so may cause headaches. The procedure for opening the middle (chung) channel (mai) is given in, level three, but that will be a long time from now and in the mean time you should focus on the fundamentals
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>>42664970
>>42664987
(4) DANTIEN BREATHING (4)

1. Inhale 50% expanding the abdomen (A) then stop the breath.
2. Quickly and simultaneously push the abdominal muscles forward and out(B) and the anus forward and upwards (B).
3. The breath, abdominal muscles, and anus should be concentrated toward the navel. The eyes are closed.
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>>42664996
I don't think the instructions are clear enough so here is this:
Inhale 50% expanding the abdomen, stop the breath, and with a quick simultaneous action push the abdomen muscles forward and outward, and push the anus forward and upward toward the navel. Hold this posture for three heartbeats then relax, and exhale slowly from the abdomen. After the 50% inhalation and expansion, the simultaneous actions of pushing the abdominal muscles and the forward upward contraction of the anus should serve to compress the air into the ocean of chi. You should repeat this exercise 18 times a day, minimum, 81 times max.

If you cant do this rn no stress just do the beginning exercises.
Anyways thats it, I'm going to go now, bye
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>>42664927
w wang
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>>42657881
oh stfu jeet
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bump.
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the best system for energy cultivation is semen retention.
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>>42667972
thats only the first step, that being conversation
But you also have Restoration and Transmutation

To call celibacy a system for energy cultivation is an extreme exaggeration, its more or less just a foundational practice of all systems
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>>42667972
but what if i like jerking off to japanese women's armpits?
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Gonna reccomend trying to sit lotus position at your pc.
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>>42671235
why
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>Always had been inclined towards Devi worship
>Went to some random and temple met with a Baba
>He told me about Shri Durga Shaptashati, and told me to read Kunjikastotram also gave few tips about how to read it
>Told me to focus on the tip of my nose and sit in Lotus pose
>Before meeting him I used to meditate with my own mantra
>And used to feel the blood pumping in 2 veins in my head
>After meeting him, started following what he told me
>But now I can't feel the blood pumping, can't really focus on meditation with so many mantras and things to do as a precursor to reading Kunjikastotram
>The only thing i can feel is a bit of idk kind of a movement of water droplet ig in few hair in the back of my head and nothing else
>He told me Kundalini will rise as you progress
>Also told me to do whatever practice I can do when I still have time idk what he meant by that

Any anon who can help me with Devi worship? Like how to focus? Should I keep looking at my nose while chanting Mantras, or should I close my eyes then.
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>>42672579
From what I know you should just stick to one mantra and just do it.
Although I'm not that well experienced in it.

>Should I keep looking at my nose while chanting Mantras, or should I close my eyes then.
yea. well at the very lest within Qi Gong practices you should do that.
you should focus them on the TIP of your nose then close your eyelids while still looking at them

Within tantra/yoga, when one focuses on the tip of his noes and brings awareness to it, it also simulates your Muladhara,
so I can see why he told you to do that assuming you want some "Kundalini experience"
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i have this thing where i can sort push "blood" to the top of my head or another way of explaning it is if there was a veil around my head that i could lift up and down. I feel it best behind my head and on my forehead. Idk what it is, i just think it's a cool thing i have and i don't have much in life so I just wanted to share it even if off topic, bye
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O wise anon, since many years when i meditate i get increased pressure in the forehead, 3rd eye. a few years ago i had periods where i could feel like something was rotating into my brain from my forehead.
What does this mean? energy simply going there and doing stuff?
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>>42678998
What's your togue posture looking like when this happens?
Which way is it rotating?
What do you do when this happens? (i.e where does your awareness go? is it painful?)

Rn I'm suspecting that it may just be your ajna chakra (which nessery isn't your 3rd eye (thats a different thing), though its closely related) or something of the sort; the feeling of a vortex or a screw like object moving from your forehead is a description I expect if thats the case. What I would "advice" ("" in the sense that you should take what I say with a bit of salt) if this happens is to look up gently at the bhrumadiya area (the area between eyebrows).

I'm not 100% sure whats going on, so go look around and search more about it from others experiences. but this is a pretty common occurrence so i doubt its anything to worry about
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>>42679081
i don't pay much attention to the tongue actually, so i would say it slightly touches the palate as this is my default position though i'll check again. I don't do anything special, i just sit down and breathe slowly, trying to gradually let go of any though and focusing on the breath.

I think the rotation is clockwise from my perspective. A few years ago this started violently. First i noticed a slight pressure on the forehead, i gueninely thought it was the skin there doing funny stuff. It wasn't unpleasant. This was the period where i studied a lot of stuff about alternative health, chinese energetic medecine, etc, opened my min broadly to this stuff. Eventually i noticed it wasn't just a physical sensation and i would get these random episode of extreme pressure with a rotating screw penetrating through my forehead. A few days it was unsettling, not painful but a bit overwhelming. Eventually it winded down, but now i still get that random pressure point when meditating. It didn't give me any powers however i'm disapointed. :C . There is almost no doubt the sensation is energetical however but it took me a while to realize it.
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Using Robert Bruce's book. I can feel a sort of pulsating feel, but whenever i try what he describes as swirling or stirring i don't feel shit, is this normal? Also, what the fuck is even the end goal of all this? What have (You) accomplished with this?
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>>42683411
>Also, what the fuck is even the end goal of all this?
zhenren - real person - achieving more of what is possible from a human
but also, learning how to generate the spiritual light has direct implications for your death process
if you read through the sumerian stuff on what happens when you die, you are presented with obstacles & choices
so ideally, when one is ready to die, being able to generate the spiritual light and hang on to it through the death process lets you avoid the random spit-out from the wheel of karma that takes place when you fail the challenge
in effect it allows you to have the requisite energy potential to overcome the winds of karma and then you are able to freely chose your next incarnation
>What have (You) accomplished with this?
metabolic boosts, eliminate sickness, no colds or seasonal allergies going on 20 years, enhanced healing, enhanced mental clarity, improved ability to have short meditation sessions have high rest/restoration value
parlor tricks like hey watch me put this ohmmeter across some certain parts of my body and drive the resistance to 0 for a period of time are kinda just sideshow things, although that would likely be of significant help if getting struck by lightning
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>>42683411
oh, none of what I just said has much to do with robert bruce's material except insofar as they accidentally overlap
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>>42683644
>sumerian stuff
source please.
most of the sumerian 'material' I come across on youtube is ai-voiced junk and if they use AI for the voice I doubt I can trust the content of the script.
I keep hearing of the Tibetan book of the dead but this is the first time I've heard of a Sumerian text on it.
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>>42683647
>oh, none of what I just said has much to do with robert bruce's material
what was the point then?
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>>42646163
I've been meditating more deeply lately with a new technique. Ive discovered a lot about myself and people around me. I study the "force" yes I call it that because in my mind its something fundamental to the cosmos and it flows naturally given my generations media. Now I will tell you this, prescience is real. The future is I believe able to be observed on a very surface level yet can be redirected and changed similar to how we remember a memory. Through my study and trust of this energy, I'm able to stay awake longer, move faster, think more sharply. Aliens or some sort of "psychic" entity do exist as I have seen and been visited directly by them. I have alot of wisdom and have lurked for 10+ years. LMK if I can answer any questions or if you have any guidance. Im always open to learn. Not a schizo btw, married to a doctor.
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>>42681436
This is important what you say here. Its not anything special. We are imo the most in tune with these psychic/cognitive energies in the cosmos, or at least not dominated to a degree in this way by ETs. Not with proper training which I assume they receive from birth. This sounds crazy so Ill stop. Good advice overall here. Remember, YOU are the power
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>>42685278
refer dr ainsworth and the pre birth contract
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>>42685998
give you some idea of what accomplishment-signposts look like along the path
as Bruce Lee said, man only have 2 arms and 2 legs, there's only so many different ways he can fight
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>>42687535
only so many right ways. plenty of dead-ends. what technique or lineage did you practice to get your results?
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>>42687789
I have a bit too mixed of a path to recommend it to anyone
I had a proper start with embryonic breathing and spent a few years on it until I was able to achieve daily samahdi
after that, I sorta had some parallel lines of study, a bunch of different teachers...some who didnt really want followers at all, some who saw I wasnt on their teaching path and we didnt continue/we became good friends over the years always sharing tips, tricks, techniques...some who turned out to be somewhat unsavory and it wasnt proper to continue with them after learning enough about what they were doing.
so it winds up being that I teach people foundational basics here, encourage being rigorous and thorough with them, and that this will at least prepare them for further studies when the right opportunity presents itself.
but the initial training, doing it right and thorough, I can assure cultivators that this proper beginning will save you from troubles from advanced practices, also if cultivated far enough, it can easily be your entire plate and you are well fed from it, requiring nothing further
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>>42688576
I've been following you for some time. Is there any way to get in direct contact with you except here? Maybe a discord/matrix/IRC server.
I have another kind of personal question. Why here of all places?
Why not r/streamentry, dharmaoverground, daobums or other forums.
Why not start your own blog for that matter.
Really curious.
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>>42688834
had a discord a while back, scarcely used, not much at all there, dont even recall how to look up what it is
>Why here of all places?
I've lurked on /pol/ long time before coming here, occasionally saw meditation threads that were mostly lackluster
so I figured I would help at least show people the basics and give them a good start on things
plus I've been using interactions here to refine the writing of the book, which is coming along slowly but surely
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>>42688576
>>42688980
who are you?
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>>42689313
He's the olfactoryanon providing a rigorous breath training regimen for attaining samadhi. You can browse past /ecg/ or his name in the archives for the instructions.
He uses certain keywords like: spiritual light,samahdi(yes,with this spelling),anapanasati,heartmind etc. which you can search for to get info about his method.
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>>42688980
I'm asking for discord because how would one go about advanced practices after laying down the proper foundations?
Not that I attained full-blown samadhi, just relaxation,numbing and mild pressure around my face/head.
The only thing getting in my progress is my tendency to engage in mental masturbation about the practices instead of actually sitting the fuck down.
Good luck with the book. Hope I'm able to see it within this lifetime.
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>>42659212
I've experienced about a 50% reduction in my chronic carpal tunnel from practicing about an hour a day. I haven't really noticed any further effects yet, however.



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