>first shown to fox studios but rejected and then rocket pictures in 1996 by someone claiming to be an Area 51 scientist going by the name "Victor">eventually a documentary is made about the footage in 199730 years since someone outside of area 51 and no one has debunked this footage>no puppet found>no one in the footage has come forward>no one has claimed responsibility for a hoaxGenuinely I would love if this mysterious piece of film was debunked just as much as it being confirmed a live alien because I want to know who did it and how and why it was done for seemingly no gain.
>>42737363>*30 years since someone outside of area 51 has viewed it and no one has debunked this footagesorry folks
Always found it to be perhaps the only true mainstream footage of an alien because it has a shit ton of small details.Even one of the animatronics specialists who saw it and got interviewed said years later that he was appalled at how good it was and how the pupil and mouth drooling made him suspect it was real, only said it was fake on the doc because he didn't want to be seen as a loonie on camera.And to be fair like both of them said if it was a hoax the guy who designed it and made it work was obviously a master and would be considered one of the best in Hollywood
The environment just seems so off. Why would it be a darkened room like that? If it was a case of light-sensitivity or something there'd be more precautions than just sitting around in the dark. I'd expect some sort of hospital or lab-like setting.
>>42737363one thing about this film, is if you invert the colors this reveals the eye movement much better. In this version it feels strangely real, there is something uncanny about it and creepy when you view it inverted colors.
I’m more interested about what Victor knew about 9/11 not so much the alien footage he smuggled out.
>>42737363There is also a rubber Johnny and a few tens of videos in the YouTube around NHI sightings
>>42737363It's real, because this is the exact same type of being captured by a totally different person in another country, you are looking at a real ultra terrestrial being.
Also the same type of being that Whitley saw.
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>>42737363>>42737369Why is it humanoid? Life on Earth is more diverse than: two eyes, mouth, located on a head with the eyes above the mouth. Can't tell from overly dark footage, but if it's bipedal with arms and fingers, again: so unimaginative. For an alien (extra terrestrial) to be so incredibly similar to us PLUS being adapted to our atmosphere/gravity/ambient radioactivity? It just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.IF any of the humanoid "aliens" are real, they are almost certainly future humans (with various degrees of genetic modification). It also explains/allows for any claims of hybridisation. To produce viable offspring, the parents need to be genetically very similar. We can't mate with gorillas for instance. Sure, advanced alien tech could just modify a woman's egg to be a "fertilised" egg with modified genes ... but Occam's razor this. Even the fact these "aliens" are interested in us at all is indicative that they're future humans (or not from another planet at least).I WANT to believe guys, but I need more than something some prop guys could replicate in the dark.
>>42739603QRD on where this pic is from?
>>42737363Here, I can debunk this:The filming tech is at least from the 70's-80's.If this were real, all human staff would have been wearing Level 4 Hazmat since the 60's.Therefore, fake.Film directors/hoaxers aren't very good at time piecing the technical parts of their settings.Done. /Thread
>>42739696And just like that, the Alien Interview HOAX video has been one shot.Dead.It's debunked on this premise alone.We aren't risking cross contamination from an alien species with OR Scrubs.This film group didn't have a technical director, or a high enough budget to get convincing Level 4 Hazmat, these guys aren't even wearing Level 3.This is dead as roadkill.
Dumbest fucking shite everStop reposting this stupid shit
>>42739696>The filming tech is at least from the 70's-80's.Wrong, it's early digital tape>If this were real, all human staff would have been wearing Level 4 HazmatProofs?
>>42739678>I need more than something some prop guys could replicateThe entire cool thing about the video is that expert prop guys couldn't replicate it.Also who says it's extraterrestial? might as well be subterrestial
>>42737587Kek.>>42737363It’s been debunked so hard that no one cares.Get fresh material.
>>42740660Subhuman amateur prop guys could replicate it.
>>42739678Convergent evolution. Name any other body plans you're aware of on earth right now that would be suited to mining, metal working, and other fine motor skills that would be necessary to build a vehicle capable of leaving their home planet.
>>42737587The eyes could be animated in causing that flickering
>>42739707how do you know what precautions were or were not necessary? for all we know there could no reason to use hazmat and the people involved knew it from the jump. you really gotta try using your brain dude
>>42737363That is Dan Burisch's EBE. He fell in very deep love with it. They decided to let it die against Dan's judgement. >>42739696This is well after hazmat stage. They did not care about protecting EBE from us. EBE was not dangerous to us biologically just like plants aren't. EBR itself probably convinced a program director of this. By the time Dan got to it, it was considered expendable.
>>42739684I made this one.
>>42739696That specific type of being species had eliminated all contagious diseases in its race. Or so they say.
>>42737363People were trying to deboonk it so hard they actually reboonked it to the point of inboonking it for all Eternity.
>>42737363Would.
>>42742965>That is Dan Burisch's EBEIt is not. This is Dan's, Dan's was never shown. OP's alien is "Victors" alien.
>>42737363>let's conduct this super important interview in almost total darknessYeah sure dude.
>>42744117If I had such large, jet-black eyes, then I imagine I would be susceptible to being blinded by high light intensity or the intensity of some light colors. Like, say red, even as bright as possible, is acceptable, so is blue light, while the in-between wavelengths are only tolerable depending on intensity. It would make sense most of the "abductions" and related phenomena take place at night or late evening. Our eyes are also more sensitive to certain wavelengths and less to others.
>>42741317>evolutionThat's my point. We're related to every other lifeform on Earth (if you go back far enough), plants included. It's why it's not so strange that all other mammals share so many similar characteristics as us. My comment was pointing out that we see massive diversity in numbers of eyes, limbs, mouth placement, etc. with life we're related to here on Earth ... why the hell are aliens who evolved in completely different conditions humanoid? It's beyond credulity.Them being so similar to humans (a little taller/shorter, larger heads, larger eyes, different skin colour, etc.), being able to breathe our atmosphere, withstand our gravity, etc. points overwhelmingly to them being related to us. Either a lost advanced hominid civilisation that now hides in the deep oceans, or future genetically modified humans.Also: the tech required to travel interstellar distances is so advanced that we should be like bacteria or ants to them. If these beings are real, the very fact they're apparently interested in us indicates their human origin. Our machinery and equipment is built with humans in mind, that's why it's suited to the human shape, not vice versa. It's why humanoid robots are being pursued instead of new robot forms: it's a drop-in replacement for how we've designed the modern world. If octopuses were the ones who built civilisation, it would be suited to their form. The humanoid form is only evolved for Earth, and really specifically hunting/gathering. Evolution hasn't had time to adapt us to agriculture yet, let alone modern nutrition.The humanoid form is not some obvious convergent form (unlike "crabs"), we are the only surviving example of it on Earth. The simpler explanation is that this is not somehow the random result of evolution in a completely different environment and yet somehow compatible with Earth, but that this is terrestrial in origin if real at all.
>>42744486The answers that were considered in intelligence community research endeavors have to do with gravitational waves affecting the development of organic biological structures from the chemical structure on up.The idea began to be taken seriously when multiple efforts to create an entirely sterile sealed environment resulted in apparent contamination by biological materials. Even in the most secure and certain production of an environment completely devoid of any organic chemical compounds the problem persisted. Efforts were made to determine the cause. Eventually gravitational waves were considered as the possible cause and various testing gave rise to the theory that the several black hole presences in the center of our galaxy are responsible for nudging the dormant chemical chemical materials into organized structures.. preamble to biological life. The theory is that the biological structures are a reflection of the distance from the center of the galaxy.. and that significantly different body form would be found at various distances from the central hub of our galaxy. The theory also suggested that the future well being of humanity would be affected by the approaching gravitational waves. The decision to conduct an operation to collect data from closer to the galaxy core was made and highly classified ftl equipment was utilized in the endeavor The determination was that we are secure in our biological conditions for at least the next 4000 to 6500 years.Leaks of information happen on occasion. When it rains it pours Most people have no way to evaluate the available sources.. and no skill or luck in finding them
how do you even interview a graythey speak english or something?
I don't even believe in the video, but some of you guys are just flailing around and not checking what Victor said.>>42747219Telepathy. Victor doubted its efficacy, but it's the best the military could do. They literally can't speak.>>42744117>super important interviewIt wasn't. If they have one interview on tape, they have hundreds. They interrogated these things daily if they captured one.>>42740690>It’s been debunked so hard that no one cares.How? I've looked around for years, but I never found anything definitive. The best evidence I saw was Victor's similarity to Strieber.>>42739696>If this were real, all human staff would have been wearing Level 4 Hazmat since the 60's.Not if we know we can't get sick. Victor claimed they relaxed standards to Level 2 after they realized the greys didn't carry disease, but apparently they're susceptible to microbial infestations from Earth's atmosphere, which is why this one keeled over. There's no real solution to it, which is why the feds don't bother clearing out the build-up.>Film directors/hoaxers aren't very good at time piecing the technical parts of their settings.One of the weird things about the footage no one's pointed out in this thread is apparently, you can see a keycard for a split second, and it checks out purely from a layout perspective. That's one of the weirder things.>>42744486If greys are real, they may not be aliens per se. There's a compelling argument they're genetically modified to look that way.
>>42739678There is only one blueprint for ALL life manifested trough the 3D cosmos. We are all related.
>>42747348>flailing around and not checking what Victor said.why don't you just post "what victor said"?post the transcript of this alleged telepathic interview and shit
>>42747348>There's a compelling argument they're genetically modified to look that way.Where? I'm not seeing an argument.
>>42739603>you are looking at a real ultra terrestrial being.if I'm not mistaken, I'm looking at major camel toe
>>42747516Google, nigger.https://youtu.be/TvamS6X5l2I?t=2108>Victor removed the audio on the tape because he doesn't want to compromise personnel nor himself.>His purpose is to prove that greys exist, not spread compromising information, so no transcript of the interview nor identifying information>The room is kept dark for the aliens' comfort>The figure in front is the telepath>Behind the camera is a room with observers, but only one other aide was immediately present>The alien is seated behind glass in an area at BSL 2, which is for the alien's sake>The aliens aren't susceptible to disease, but are susceptible to microbial colonies forming in the lungs>Note, there's a guy smoking>The interview didn't go well and the telepath couldn't get tangible responses>The alien starts coughing and signaling for help>The telepath notifies medical personnel; he can't get behind the glass whatsoever, so it's up to medics to help>The alien stops responding altogether>Medical staff take too long because they're selected for secrecy over actual skill>Medics shine lights in the aliens face to check for hemorrhaging, but they're too late>Alien is kill, feed cuts>>42747524Let's assume you're an alien species from a planet 18,000 lightyears away from Earth. You send out Von Neumann probes to explore the galaxy. On these probes, you install some form of genetic manipulation system to construct an organism/drone based on native biology.>Why?Because these new organisms are better suited towards the native environment, allow for further understanding of that environment and native biology, and will hypothetically receive better treatment from whatever organisms dominate the planet. If greys looked like shoggoths, we'd assume they're unintelligent monsters. From our human perspective, greys look like intelligent, neotenous humans, even if we find them creepy as shit due to the uncanny valley. A self-replicating probe wouldn't understand that necessarily.
>>42747688>GoogleOr you could have just posted it all to begin with, like a proper OP, instead of being a lazy ass and reacting incredulously when people think it's fake. Google this. Why should your readers do your fucking work for you?>On these probes, you install some form of genetic manipulation system to construct an organism/drone based on native biology.>these new organisms are better suited towards the native environmenthe says after saying they're dropping like flies from every little airborne microorganismget your story straight
>>42747733>Or you could have just posted it all to begin with, like a proper OPI'm not OP, retard. If OP mentioned a documentary, you can at least look up the documentary instead of being a lazy faggot.>he says after saying they're dropping like flies from every little airborne microorganismI gave a logical example, not reality nor do I claim my example is related to the video in particular. I don't even believe in the video; I just resent people asking questions that have answers in the mentioned documentary when it takes 30 seconds to look that shit up. If you said>It's dark, and it looks like a puppetI wouldn't give a fuck. That's reasonable.Acting like there's no plausible explanation for NHI to look like people is stupid, especially when abduction reports consistently mention DNA collection. We don't even know if they're aliens. They could be anything. They could be Chinks that got CRISPR'd to look that way. They could be time-travelers or some ancestor that seeded the planet. Victor is the guy calling them aliens. I'm just imploring you to do the bare minimum before you ask braindead questions.
>>42747688>From our human perspective, greys look like intelligent, neotenous humansYou need new glasses, those creatures don't look like human, even neotenous ones. Their appearance is so extremely non-human they're the stuff of horror movies.
>>42747876Not my fault they fucked up the aesthetic and they look weird and creepy.In my example neotenous means>Big head>Big eyes>Small nose>Hairless>FrailAn AI would misread all that and pump out a creepy fucking thing.
"Vega 7 Entertainment"According to IMDB, the director did something called "Sexbomb" before this and worked on horror movies after.It came out right after a bunch of money was made off the "alien autopsy" video.
>>42741317Moluscs with telekinesis capable of shaping rocks into hollow vessels that they then fill with water and their food source ecosystem, get inside. Close it with their telekinetic powers and move it across the universe. They are shape shifters. They shapeshift into these molusc humanoids whenever they have to deal with primates.
>>42746781First, just untrue about clean rooms. We maintain various levels of clean rooms today: from satellite production to biolabs. It's not exactly easy to maintain this, but it's not impossible like you're making out.Gravity doesn't work like that. Walking past a particularly large rock has more gravitic impact on you than gravitational waves from interstellar distances. Find a new scientific term to misuse.>>42747348Why have a fleshy body at all? Whether it's time-travel or FTL travel, both are technologies so far advanced that biology will have long been replaced.>>42747394Why don't trees, fungi, spiders, and us look the same then? And we're genetically related to them - why would beings we're not even related to genetically look like us?
>>42748378It was in a particular type of reactor with essential elemental building blocks present. I'm repeating what I remember of the report. Was high radiation present in water. Not simply neutral. Not a clean room but a fluid system.
>>42747733>i'm not interested in the discussion and i'm only here to DEBOOONK but also you should provide me with info that will never be good enough that i'll also ignorefuck off dumb subhuman reddit filthwhy are you even here fucking retarded faggot>i didn't watch the video but i have an opinion. wtf my opinion was ignorant which is to be expected but i'm way too subhuman to understand why? someone help me i'm so fucking stupid! but also i'm super smart!man you people should kill urselves seriously. there's so many like you too it's disgusting.
>>42737363I really wish people would show the original uncolor graded video of the original fim. its a lot brighter and you can see its arms and torse better. its no puppet from the 80s or 90s unless it had stan winstons expensive sfx puppet ass working on it.
>>42740690no it hasnt discord tranny. stop lying, ands just admit you are a porn addicted cross dresser trying to work up the nerve to hang yourself. >>42748378>We maintain various levels of clean rooms todayyeah, today, not the 1980s when the film was made. clean rooms then were not a solved problem. constant contamination. I had a college prof who worked on a subsystem for the space shuttle, they had constant contaminations in the 70s and 80s. >>42740654>Wrong, it's early digital tapeno it wasnt. it was film taken of a cctv screen. >>42744156theyre polarizing lenses that autogate the light to avoid being blinded to hell.
