>only liked martial arts as a sport growing up>as an adult have had knee problems (ACL, MCL)>have tried to continue martial arts but have blown my knees previously and now realise BJJ/MT is just going to result in that again>need another sport so I can meet people and not be a shut-inSurely others are in this same situation, i.e. don't like team/ball sports, prefer something like martial arts but can't do it anymoreWhat sport should I do?
>>225400hey man, what about boxing? how much emphasis is put on your knees there? There's a lot of bending and moving so i don't know.If your acls and mcls are fucked though then maybe what you need is fuckin' surgery. If you can't get surgery then ripppppppp. Especially if boxing won't do it for you.Might have to be, like. A walking club or something dude. Or some fake martial art, like aikido.
>>225400Didn't you make this thread before and people told you BJJ/MT were going to shreckt your knees, but you did it anyways?
>>225409if so, he is fucking epic for that hahaha.>>225400one thing i forgot to mention: have you checked out ATG? Like, kneesovertoesguy on youtube? If you're fucked anyway, you might as well go ham on that (with proper rest also) for a while. Maybe it'll take a month, maybe it'll take a year, maybe it'll never get your knees to a comfortable level, but it's worth a shot if the alternative is never training again.ATG is exercises that are specifically to strengthen your knees and increase their mobility to prevent injuries, and to rehabilitate existing injuries. Stay hard brother!
if you play a proper jiu jitsu game you probably shouldnt injure your knees
>>225400Just do whatever martial art you want but take it easy. You're not gonna be the best at anything you start at 30+ anyway and you can still enjoy being part of a community.
>>225409No not me, though I could imagine this is fairly common 30yo boomer scenario
>>225413I never found the instagram/youtube knee guys really made a difference for me. What made the difference was doing physio for like 6 months twice a week, then less regularly since thenWe started from scratch with basic isometrics, strength, pliometrics etc and kept building up. Legs are strong as they've ever been now so it worked like a charmBut now that they're fixed I'm pretty hesitant to fuck them up again, like maybe BJJ would be okay but I'm aware of the risk.Fuck it, maybe I'll just go to /fit/ and become a powershitter. It's only lateral movements that cause my knee issues so powerlifting would be fine>>225407Boxing would probably be the best out of martial arts for my circumstance I guess - I've had surgery in the past, not in a state where I need it now but more like aware that I need to derisk a bit
>>225400Pickleball. Can play mostly solo. Easy on the joints. Incredibly fun. Can be learned in literally 15 minutes. Awesome for aerobic health. I play at my local YMCA a few times a week and I've developed a bunch of good friends. >muh senior sportIt's not just old people. But even if the people in your area are mostly older, the great thing about Pickeball is that age doesn't matter. I'm 30 and I play with a few 70 year olds that mop the fucking floor with me.
>>225400https://www.youtube.com/@TheKneesovertoesguyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OViN3q7sHYTrain your knees, dumb dumb
Gordo was a BJJ guy who invented half guard because his knees were fucked. Bjj is the tai chi of combat sports dude.t. Training since '02 and 3 knee surgeries from unrelated BJJ injuries
>>225400If you wanna be super casual, bowling and other bar esque "sports" like billiards and darts/axe throwing could be good.It can get competitive, but it's also casual and good for meeting people. Plus gentle on the knees.
>>225400you could still try judo or wrestling, you aren't going to get your knees destroyed if you take it easy. just make sure to always warn whoever you're training or sparring with.
>>225400>What sport should I do?Sumo.
>>225400dont do all the sport bjj shit made to explode your own knees like de la riva and single leg x guard >>226051half guard is comfy
The fact is, most sports are going to be hard on your knees. There aren’t very many that aren’t. Your best bet is to lose weight — human knee reliability seem to top out at around 160 lbs or so, and the problem becomes a lot worse over 200 lbs.But some ideas anyway:Rowing (many af actually).Cross country skiing (actually awesome).Swimming/water polo/etc.Yoga/tai chiNordic walking (gay af but good exercise and MILFs galore).I wouldn’t recommend climbing generally but there are climbing-adjacent disciplines that might be suitable, e.g. aid climbing.Cycling and other bike sports works for some, not others. Technique is a big part. A tip here is basically use higher RPM and lower gears, relying on endurance over strength. Do some spin classes to get started.
>>225400>has knee problems in his 30s>decides to do full on MMAYou’re a fucking retard. BJJ alone would probably be fine as long as you don’t do stupid shit like try to train through injuries.
>>225400Get a hobby that doesn't require you to be athletically fit and capable, because you aren't and never will be again.
>>226833why so negative?
>>226902Truth hurts.
>>226933we dont know anything about him, he could easily get fitter than he has ever been in his life for all we know
>>226953If you're in your thirties and you've already destroyed your knees, it's time to gracefully accept that your athletic peak is behind you. It's time to realise that there is more to life than sports, and find something else to devote your energy and spare time to. The objective should be to exercise lightly to remain healthy and stay at a reasonable weight, not to push an aging and battered body ever harder. You're only young once, and when it's over, it's over.
>>226954if you have limited self belief then i feel sorry for you but you do not need to spread this to others. it does not give you any advantages at all, its rather the opposite
>>226957Let me know when you find someone who's unfucked his knees with the power of positive thinking. The simple fact of the matter is that longevity in any sport is entirely contingent on injury avoidance. There are many, many men who have been forced into retirement through injuries, and it's an insult to all of them when someone says that they just aren't believing in themselves enough. Life doesn't work like that - sometimes you can try really hard and do all the right things with as much dedication and positivity as any man can muster, and still fail to achieve your goals. This is natural and normal and must be accepted, failure to do so goes beyond optimism and into delusion.
>>226959there are guys without legs doing bjj nevermind fucked up knees. you dont get bonus points at the end for being a defeatist little bitch but you seem to think so for some reason?
>>226972OK, OP should cut off his legs and become a Paralympian. Do you really think that's more sensible and reasonable than finding fulfilment outside of the realm of sports? When you grow up you'll understand that nothing lasts forever and that it's not a bad thing to reinvent yourself and do things differently when circumstances stop you from doing what you wanted to do. It isn't cowardly or a mark of failure to turn aside from your former goals and hobbies to find something that's a better fit for you. If OP continues trying to do sports, he's going to make his chronic injuries worse and probably pick up more, until he finally accepts that his youth is over and he needs to move on. You are stupid and evil if you encourage people to do that.
>>226954NTA, but I am in my mid-twenties and starting Judo, are you telling me it's already over for me? Damn.
>>237137Judo can be a very solid old man martial art, especially if you're in a gym that prioritizes good judo and safety over maximizing scores in competition. There have been judo Olympic medalists in their early 40s and my gym has literal grandpas on the mat.
>>237139Thanks anon, I was going through a retarded quarter-life crisis for the past few months, so I am glad to here that this isn't something I should give up on due to my age. Then again, I should've known since a fair amount of other people in the dojo were old dudes.Either way, thank you for the motivation. I appreciate it.
>>237144One winter years ago my instructor, who was in his mid to late 70s at the time, walked into class and told us that he'd wiped out hard in the parking lot. Normally for a man his age, he explained, that would be a trip to the hospital or even a death sentence, but since he trained his breakfalls every day he was perfectly fine. We trained breakfalls that entire two hour class, it was a lot of fun. Mid-twenties leaves you plenty of time to study judo and use it to both add years to your life and life to your years.
Boxing is genuinely the least injury prone martial art you could do, but only on the condition that you spar lightly and not too often. All forms of grappling WILL fuck you up one way or another in the long run and anything that involves kicking is not good either.
>>225400Iaido? Or any other weapon martial arts for example escrima. You could also try archery
>>225400Golf. The similarities are not obvious at first but there is a reason so many athletes from so many disciplines end up playing. Easy on body, endless levels to it, can get as autistic as you like with body mechanics and gear, instant feedback, it's purely you initiating your body movements, always room to improve, mentally tough etc. Plus you can play til you're old and get to spend time in the sun with good people.
>>225400Some martial art with weapons would be good, like escrima, fencing, kendo.
>>225400BJJ only destroys your joints if you >Compete>Don't tap early>Go too fast for your own good>Don't practice play styles that hide the legs>Don't learn your submissions>Want to win/tryhardBJJ is very much accomodating in that you can choose to play to your weaknesses
>>225407>>225702The most important thing in boxing is footworkMake of that what you will
>>238152As a judoka, how much time do I need to learn to defend against leg locks? I wouldn't mind doing some camps or weeklong trips to a good gym to cover that hole in my understanding of grappling.
>>238152>BJJ only destroys your joints if you>actually practice the martial artwhoa
Clean cardio, not as “martial” but fantastic for rehab and overall conditioning
>>238265What do you mean by "clean cardio?"
>>225400skydiving
>>238153>The most important thing in boxing is footworkThat and conditioning. It may not be every time, but sooner or later someone is probably going to get you to run for part of your conditioning regimen. Having said that, he could at least try talking to his coach about it and see if there's some kind of substitute he could do. Especially since he's not competing.
>>225400Freediving. If you don't live near the sea you can do the dynamic stuff which is length wise rather than vertically
