Tie-in Merchandise EditionOld Thread: >>215905Keep strictly real-steel related topics in >>>/k/, gun and gear porn's cool as long as you don't spam.If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.>Newbie pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/9EdSzRMj>Recently updated /asg/ retailer guidehttps://pastebin.com/VHtFZX8M>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe sidehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airsoft
>>228063>Threadly TopicPost recent acquisitions/projects etc.
>>228090This is a discord for books
>>228064>acquisitionsA terrible loss. Goodnight sweet prince, we hardly knew thee.
>>228064Getting coyote brown gear for my kit I'm gonna use in euro forests lmao
Lately I'm fighting the urge to camo paint my AK. When I got it I decided that I wouldn't but there are so many tempting examples out there. What should I do /asg/?
>>228179painting is cringe
>>228179sponge painting is the best look. >>228181this is only true if you add fake wear
>>228182Nah, painting is lame. When I see a painted replica it immediately loses all value to me
>>228184lmfao ok
>>228181No.>>228182It's definitely effective but it kinda looks like you just gave the gun a mud bath.
>>228193>le gigachad self insertPainting is gay and retarded kys
>>228196your opinion is shit sorry!
>>228197Nah. My opinion is the only correct one. You're all just NPCs in my world
>>228198hateto break it to you ol' buddy, ol' pal, ol' friend, ol' mate, ol' chum, ol' partner, ol' bro but I live in my own little world so I can't possibly live in yourst.delusions of granduer
>>228063KSC seems to make a nicer sword cutlass than my WE>>228064I bought TAPS without harness, I;m gonna mod the shit out of it when package arrives
>>228182I do like sponge painting, but I've done it twice at this point and if I manage to motivate myself to paint my SPR I wanna do something different.
>>228223looks gay and retarded
>>228181>>228196black guns give away position. you know what, nevermind, they dont give away position. make sure your gun stays black and dont question anything.
>>228329just buy an FDE gun instead of smearing paint on it like a toddler
>>228329It's BB gun war dude, quit being a tryhard, Russians are supposed to be the laidback ones.
Anyone know why a sportline ar47 cyma would not plser on with full battery? Are the wires just loose? It is 3 months old.
>>228349>AR-47Damn centrists.I would definitively check the wiring if the motor doesn't turn at all.
>>228179You can do, but 9/10 camo paint jobs on guns look shit, an that AK already looks cool.
paintjobs aren't supposed to look like cod skins. shitty spray paint is top tier.
Weapon/scope scrims are neat IMO. More effective than paint, and you can go for a wider range of looks. Paint is cool too, but I like to be able to run a stock look for games where you play as low-tech opfor.
cop or not?
>>228349Check if the motor connection's loose, and if it's not then your trigger contacts might be burned out
>>228427nah, vector optics make better micro dots
>>228432sure but theyre 200 yuro, could get a new romeo 5 for that
>>228433Frenzy-x is 115 jewros
>>228423Imagine not hydrodipping your gun and then teabagging your downed opponents.
If you have a green gas pistol where the slide catches at the back and you need to tap it forward manually, that's usually the... disconnector sticking, right? Is that a spring issue or a fitment issue or is the pistol just fucked?
>>228470I mean whatever this guy is
>>228064A pkm with a scope
>>228470if my pistol was doing this I'd check that or the roller on the valve knocker assembly. my glocks like to stick on the slide return if they're doing so weakly, they do this less now that I've added a bearing roller. HRC would tell you the wrong size bearing to install.
>>228403It is a coworker friends gun, the fuse seemed fine when I checked but idk if this disassembles like the cyma ars or are weird. Also said friend lost his ak alpha charging handle and they are looking for a new one.>>228430I haven't looked at these before and neither has he. I figure it has to be wiring but I will see what I can do for him.>>228470Thats WE using a spring thats slightly too weak in my own personal case.
>>228494Do you know what voltage battery he used in it?
>>2284953c 7.4v battery. Its the nunchuck kind.
>>228493>>228494Thanks boys. To clarify is the knocker the hammer in the gun or the little button on the valve assembly on the magazine?
>>228493HRC is fucking shit. I know one of the people in there from another airsoft discord and he doesn't actually play airsoft, and until summer he didn't even own a GBBR (which he hasn't actually fielded) yet he has +10k comments on hrc giving advice to people with zero experience in GBBR's just regurgitating what other people has said. I want to kill that fucking nigger and people like him
>>228504hahaha damn
>>228502inside the gun. within the trigger assembly. it is the part that hits the output valve.
>>228506Makes sense, thanks anon.
>>228504a lot of the trannies there just collect and don't actually play with their replicas. Just post the same fucking pictures of them over and over again. If that place wasn't the only gas blowback community I would have left that faggot hellhole a long time ago
>>228509it's a crazy place. between the absolute tsunami wave of retarded easily googable questions there's some people dealing with really cool and rare gbbr problems/guns. someone will drop stls for some obscure shit nobody has made yet and it gets drowned out by retards asking if X hopup bucking is good.
>>228510I wish they had like a verified owner thing for the gun channels so you couldn't post in there until you had been verified if you actually owned one. Would remove a lot of the faggotry I imagine. Then the midwits could keep to themselves in the general containment channel
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACKgonna be testing TAPS rig this weekend, got one without harness for CHEAP
is krytac vector gbb that ass?i want an any gbb(but not pistol) with a burst but cant really decide besides vfc mp5 looking like a really solid option
Government mandated airsoft games now!
>>228599At least around its launch, the thing was *okay* but had some serious issues - particularly that it's nonfunctional in cold weather or after significant cooldown from use, among many other thingsXE video's got a lot to say on the matter but I'd only buy one if a later revision (or aftermarket) has fixed some of its more serious issues - which is a shame as a GBB Vector in concept seems like a fun gunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwv8TZQVPiQ
you guys do historical bbwars, right?
>>228623No I like speedy bb wars
I've been out of the airsoft loop and game since 2016 and have been flirting with the idea of getting back in. Has much changed? Is there a new meta?
>>228666I got out around the same time and got back in two years ago. not much has changed. I'm seeing more gbbrs which is really cool but there's still a bunch of hpa faggots with lines and regs sticking out of loose fitting camelbak pouches.
>>228668The hpa fags and milsim tards are one of the factors that made me leave the hobby, unfortunately. Remember the whole 811, high level days of /asg/? That was happening in real time at my home field.I miss the days of the "weekend warrior" and people just having fun. It seems to have dried up a good bit, though. My local scene is trash now.
>>228668>hpa faggots with lines and regs sticking out of loose fitting camelbak pouches.rent free
>>228675incomprehensible
How do I stop googles from fogging up? any tips anons?Got the Moondog anti fog, but it doesn't work at all. Tell me how do YOU personally apply anti fog /asg/.
>>228678exfog. I sweat a lot and everything fogs no matter how many holes or gaps I add. forcing air in is the only way I can keep the fog away.
>>228679Thanks, which version will fit best into an ops-core?
>>228680depends on how you want to mount it. I just have mine in a pouch hanging off the back of my helmet.
>>228681Thanks, will try once I sell off some gear
>>228678by buying eyepro that is not dogshit. I got milsurp revision glasses because that was the cheapest way to get prescription inserts, I am not able to fog them up no matter if I'm wearing mesh face protection, balaclava, have helmet on my head. I used to have wileyx glasses and those didn't fog too.
>>228678Voodoo goggles were pretty good for me. Oddly enough, even lancers were until they just started falling apart. I have an issues pair of goggles too that are good. I forgot the manufacturer though.
>>228678wear a dye mask :^)
>>228687I only play with complete/half seal glasses with side panels. Plus I am tight on money to cash out for prescription ANZI lenses.>>228690I have an i-5 and my prescription glasses fog under it too.
>>228678Anti-fog wipes, bulk pack. Use a couple, and remember you want to leave a thin film, so don't try and clean it out with something else after you use the antifog wipe. You'll likely get cloudy first 5 minutes or so (just walk around the prep area) and then it'll clear up
i have a tokyo marui fnx45 and the gas reservoir is too deep to fill them. any way around this without buying an extension?
>>228712Thanks, never thought about these.
>>228577TAPS passed the test, it's a light and comfortable rig. One big drawback - I'm not a huge guy so mag pouches number 2 and 7 basicaly unusable so I stuffed cables from the speaker into one because they are massive.
nephews are at the house for dad's birthday dry firing my gbbr's, and will be for the rest of the eveningthe smiles on their faces are honestly worth it
>>228716In pictures, it kinda looks like you should be able to remove the baseplate by lifting the magazine spring retainer and pushing it forward, which'd make accessing the fill valve considerably easier; otherwise, yeah, you might need to get an extender (or an adapter with a longer stem)
>>228678>>228679This. I wear glasses, but even when I wear contacts, fogging is always an issue. I've tried everything. Wipes, coatings, thermal lenses, sprays, fans, etc... The only thing that solves the issue 100% of the time is my ExFog. I use it while skiing too, and it worked in falling snow/rain.
>>228623Of course, those are the best bbwars.
I've not airsofted for awhile, I want to get back into it but I want to be a massive faggot larper, who makes the best gas blow back airsoft rifles?
>>228905>Tokyo MaruiIf you want something that just werks™, but can only use weak Nipponese gas, big western gas will cause unexpected seppuku.>VFC If you want something that looks good and functions more realistically. But VFC guns often come pre-fucked with some design flaw that is addressed in their next released version.>WEIf you are a poorfag, or want a model of gun only WE make.
>>228913I would offer these brands as well. VFC pulled their pants up, we-tech's v3 looks like a minor improvement, and TM has yet to fall off. also we-tech is great if you're a crafty nigga that likes repairing/upgrading.
>>228623>>228830Do you guys have multiple different load-outs, or is it always Wehrmacht/SS?
>>228599VFC M16A2
Finally got to try my E&L and worked like a dream with stock internals. The only meh thing about it is a slight gear screeching due to the usual poor factory shimming. I could open it and do it myself but im afraid messing with it may ruin whatever black magic is making it run so well. Should I try it or nah?
>>228929Do it, but replace the stock motor and gears (high torque & 13:1) whilst you're there. The little Chinese lady who put it together only put globs of grease in it, no magic.
>>228934Nta, but I'm looking to get back into airsoft. Is there a way to get good trigger responce while not making the rate of fire go though the roof? I'm looking to put an ak74 together with a modest 700-800 rmp fire rate, but with a good trigger responce. Only interested in AEG
>>228063When did airsoft guns go from looking like something you would see as a typical GI / military issued rifle to those guns that all look like race guns?
>>228956etu like perun hybrid, with precocking and rof reduction
>>228920For WW2 games yes, for now at least. I do Vietnam war and nondescript modern load-outs too.
>>228920I have a fuckload of kits lol>93. Infanterie-Division, Heer, 1944>1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, 1944>Xª MAS (Italian marines), 1944>39th Guards Rifle Division (Soviet), 1942, Summer and Winter.>US Army, 7th Infantry Division, 1989.>7th Guards Mountain Air Assault Division (Russian), 2014>hamas, gaza 2019>Wagner Group in Ukraine, 2023Those are the complete ones, I have a bunch of other kits still being worked on
>>228957When faggots started considering their 30-round burst from an HPA highcap against rental players to be totally indicative of IRL military black ops navy seal gunplay killer skill
>>228905With specifically ARs, TM MWS to plug-and-play without much issue and with a decent chunk of aftermarket (also, contrary to what the other guy said, IIRC the only thing that happens to the MWS on propane is that its nozzle return spring eventually wears out; this can be solved by buying a replacement with the gun), VFC V3 ARs if you want the best realistic design on the market with the best-designed (and cheapest) AR mags on the marketCheapest options to get into the systems are Double Eagle's MWS clones (in this case, buy a replacement nozzle with the gun; I've heard that's the only real problem component with them) or VFC's Olympic Arms package (a very compact SBR that comes with two PMAG-style magazines out of the box), though if you're willing to spend more there's a decent bit of variety on both frontsWouldn't go with any other systems myself for ARs; for AKs VFC and Marui also reign supreme (the former being FAR superior in terms of raw performance if you can find it and you're willing to detail-strip the blowback/magazine components to lube internal seals; though future batches may not have this issue as it seems to have been a first-batch rush issue), and for other platforms VFC makes a decent variety of other guns (H&K rollerguns, FAL, FNC, M249, upcoming PPSh, etc.) and TM makes a Saiga-12 that's extremely well-regarded - it may sound like I'm exhibiting favouritism but that's because from what I've observed, these brands have demonstrated above-average quality for the price compared to most othersI'd advise watching Explosive Enterprises for more info; he's probably the single-best review creator on Youtube, and specifically specializes in GBBRsExample shown here, VFC V3 AR review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iDVLTMt-40
What do anons think about building a field with trenches like the picrel?I am in NorCal and a lot of dudes here are rusfor. The admission will be exclusively 18+ and the minimum engagement distance will be 3 ft.how much money would I need to do this assuming I want a 200x200 patch of land for the field?
>>229019seems fun but then I think about trying to maneuver around a bunch of fat retards in a hallway just to get perma-pinned at the next corner by some faggot firing full auto totally gamifying the shit.
>>229020I get what you mean, the actual trench will be wider and will have side-foxholes.the picrel was the first pic I found, I intend to make the actual trenches more akin to the ones in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJMbtgNdEDo
>>229021then if the field is fun while still being trench-like I guess it's all up to the players being fun to play with and you have enough money to inject.
>>229022this is merely a concept, however I plan to minimize investments and use the money people pay for the admission (let's say it's $25-35)It would be Ideal to:1. collect the money beforehand2. rent the land and schedule the game3. make shitty trenches that will self-destruct after the game, but not shitty enough to collapse from people jumping in and out of them.4. rinse and repeat
>>228905Vipertech if you want to drop real money on full steel parts and forged recievers
>>229257i'd rather go with ESD if what i want is a plain ar15 and they got back in stockfuck ESD when they will even restock?
ak can have just a bit of rice
>>229257vipertech is the earthbound of airsoft brands I stg lmao
>>228826On the TMs the valve sticks down into the baseplate, so you need to take it out in order to get the baseplate off.
>go to an airsoft game>its a bangerever happen to you?
>>229462no, never
>>229462it must have happened once otherwise I dont know why I still play this
>>229462Maybe one in five games. You need good stewards, good players turning up, fair split of players, decent weather, etc. But when it happens nothing beats it.
I finally feel like I've got good reliable kit to play with
>>229462>go to an airsoft gamewhy would I do that?
>>228064I bought a MK12 SPR, gonna get it soon, what height of scope ring should I get ?
>>229634I got 1.93 gieselle mount copy, it's just right for me.
>>228064Just got this. It's useless for skirmishing, as the fps is too high, plus the shells ping off in random directions when ejecting. But it's neat for plinking.
>>230030I wish that some company would make a proper skirmishable lever action. Not that G&G tacticool AR "lever action" faggot shit
fuck sound grenades
>>230057I have 40 in my possession.
>>230057Thunderflash are all part of the fun, except when they go off in room you happen to be in.
Finally a briefcase concealable RPG-7 launcher
Worth a shot to ask.got a VFC MP7 v2 and it's awesome, crazy amount of recoil for an airsoft gun. But need a mock suppressor for it with the internal diameter of 31mm or more so I can fit in a muzzle flash/tracer unit inside, would all of the generic ones that go ontop of the VFC flashhider work?
>>230326Of all the posts here this is the one that will land you on a watchlist.
Does anyone have expirience with Golden Eagle GBBR AR type rifles? Are they any good?
>>230492Absolutely not; they're based on a 21-year-old design with virtually zero improvements, their polymer-receiver guns are prone to self-destructing and the internals are prone to a number of issues on their own, on top of the cost of magazines adding up fast anywaysStrongly recommend investing in either VFC V3 or TM-spec MWS ARs; cheapest entries into both are the VFC Olympic Arms ($289USD before shipping, comes with two mags, system is well-designed, well-supported and has some of the best-designed and most inexpensive gas AR mags on the market - buying an NPAS would be advisable but installing it immediately might not be necessary since out of a barrel that short it's probably going to be fine for most fields) or the Double Eagle (*NOT* T8/CYMA) MWS clones (seemingly $280USD on Taiwangun, $380USD everywhere else for gun + one mag, very well-designed system for longevity even if it's not the most realistic, and has a lot of aftermarket available due to being a proper TM MWS clone - the only advisable upgrade to buy alongside it would be an aftermarket MWS nozzle as I recall hearing it's a weak point, but aside from that it's good to go out of the box), as both are modern systems with far better designs and a lot more aftermarket available, and will last you a lot longer and cost you far less money than investing in a third-rate clone of a fourth-rate system and inevitably having to sell it at a considerable loss
>GHK don't make a full length SIG 550>They stopped making the AUG in OD>VFC don't make a full length HK33Don't they want my money?>>230492Just get a TM or VFC.
>>230497>>230577I may end up with Double Eagle off Taiwangun, but I will need to offload a lot of gear first. It's not a cheap gun by any means.
>>230585Get a job
>>230585buy anything and learn it's actually how competent you are that determines your experience with gbbrs. mongoloids with TM and VFC have problems I never have because I'm not retarded.
>>230606This. Your experience with GBBRs largely depends on how knowledgeable and competent you are at fixing shit
retard newfaggot here, what's the general storage rule with gas(not co2) magazines?can you store them filled all the way up?should you empty them to half during storage?what about completely empty?
>>230614store them with a very tiny bit of gas. you're looking to keep pressure on the seals/orings/gaskets. I've stored mine completely empty but I'll also disassemble them to re-lubricate, replace orings, or shove RTV in where a gasket is missing before I game again so any downside to storing them empty is not something I take notice of.
>>230615why the fuck would you ever store them empty?
>>230616lower weight means I'm more high speed.
>>230605I do have a job, but getting a gun that shoots plastic BBs cuts into my ammo budget for actual guns. Therefore I'm offloading shit I don't use/need. I need to at least pretend to be responsible and shit.
have anyone used ATP-Z from kwa?how does the pistol feel to shoot?
>>230628take that tactical fucking shit off of that FAL RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>230629>KWAIt's shit
>>230628why did you do that to FAL......>>230631is it really that shiti wonder how it would feel compared to vfc p320i am looking for a nice pistol to use that is not a glock
>>230633>P320>nice
>>230635bruh it's not rsif it fits in hand nicely and kicks good then it's all good for meairshit p320 wont kill or amputate me lol
>>230636it's ergos are shit
>>230638i mean yeah but better than glock1911 is truly ergomaxxed
>>230630>>230633I bought it already that way, bubba'd by finnish hands. Not that I mind, you do what you want to yours.
>>230606>>230613True, but buying into a good platform to begin with means being able to source replacement parts whenever they're needed/wanted and deal with issues far less oftenI have heard far too many stories of people buying cheap Western Arms clones and having to deal with issues that people with more widely supported platforms either never run into or take a lot longer to run into, and then subsequently writing off all GBBRs as malfunction-ridden nightmare machines because they had a bad experience using a severely outdated platform when the problem could've been avoided entirely by buying something designed this decade
>>230628You know, VFC does make a GBB FAL if you've got the money - but in all seriousness, DE MWS seems to have a solid enough track record, and the occasional reports of nozzle breakage are readily resolved by just buying a replacement, which is a pretty common part that'll run you all of 15-40 US dollars as a one-time replacement
>>230644I agree of course, I just wanted to post in opposition to the reddit parrots.
>havent airshat for a while>want to come back>browse through what the stores have>still basically no ww2 gbbs worth a mention>the only two of note is the we thompson and the vfc ppsh soon coming out>nobody yet made a bar or a usable g43 or garand>theres at least more m16 variants thoughI'm slowly inching back to HPA gay but this time an N23 to be extra gay. Wish GBB manufacturers made a wider variety of guns than just 10 slight variations of a faggy civilian AR.
Bought those shitty aliexpress spring grenade, what am I in for ?
>>230777into shitty spring grenadeslel
>>230777a neat little thing on the shelf.
how do I make the gayest loadout possible?
>>230780tactical maid
>>230780hpa non recoiling anything with hicaps and wear hentai clothing
>>230778>>230779I'll beef up the springs and see if it's a decent addition to my storm
>>230780Hoses. Hoses everywhere.
>>230768Northeast makes a Sten that seems pretty well-regarded, but I agree that there's absolutely a void in the market for WW2 GBBRs - that being said, can't be surprised that ARs get the lion's share of attention given how easy it is to make all sorts of different variants and how prevalent they are in both media and actual real-world useAt least we're seeing retro AR variants popping up instead of 20 billion generic freefloat AR builds, for whatever that's worth>>230777Everyone I've talked to who uses them says they work fine enough in CQB but have inconsistent BB dispersion, and that you really need to toss them gently to avoid damaging the thin plastic doors - they work, but they aren't perfect>>230780either invest really hard into big-budget speedsoft or milsim loadouts and then act like a pretentious prick about it when people don't play the sport exactly like you dobonus points if you end up cheating in some way while playing
>>230795>NE StenI've heard bad things about it. Mainly really poor accuracy and magazines dumping out gas because they don't have any features to protect the mags from syphoning gas out of the mag when you tilt it too much to the right.>At least we're seeing retro AR variants popping up instead of 20 billion generic freefloat AR builds, for whatever that's worthYeah but still. A select fire BAR or a Thompson not made by WE would be killer.
>>230800If I had to guess regarding the Sten, it's probably the same issue a lot of open-bolts face: gas is released while the BB is still moving into the hop unit, causing unpredictable rotationsMight be possible to resolve it the same way other open-bolts have been, by either adding a spring standoff that forces the nozzle in a little earlier or clamping the metal reinforcement of a Maple Leaf bucking down a little more tightly to increase friction and stop the BB in its tracks sooner - XE's shown the former in the NE Uzi video and the latter in the VFC M249 video, IIRCAnd a GBB BAR would fuck unbelievably hard, even in the realm of AEGs the only one that's commonly available is pretty shit IIRC
>>230801I know the WE Thompson has that extra spring behind the nozzle and it still sucks ass. That also just might be general WE niggery though because I don't think they've released a single good long GBB yet.
>>230805v3 bolt catch improvements are looking promising but I don't think there's much else they changed.
>>230806I had a WE M16A3 and that thing was constantly spitting out gas through the ejection port, had massive cooldown issues and kept breaking trigger bearings. If they only thing they changed was the bolt catch then it's still a shit gun especially considering how VFC guns aren't that much more expensive and have much better mags.
>>230807lol
>>230795>>230800Does Northeast make anything with good performance? I heard the Sten was a bit shit, same with the Uzi, I assume the FAMAS isn't great as well. They seem more like collectors pieces more than anything.
>>230805At least in XE's case, it fully resolved the issue in the Uzi - so yeah, probably just a WE moment>>230810Uzi does seem to perform reasonably well with either open-bolt fix applied, but obviously that requires immediately doing work to a gun fresh out of the box - though I also recall that they've been polishing various aspects of the design since releaseNo idea about the FAMAS but I hope it's at least decent
>>230828>probably just a WE momentI really wish they didn't actually make the Thompson. Now nobody else is going to make one for a long time since "there is already one out on the market". Same with SRC and the MP40 because from what I've heard it also sucks dick.
>>230805>WE niggeryTheir G36 is pretty solid.
>>230846If WE didn't make one I can't imagine that any other decent manufacturer would make one. TM, VFC, GHK, don't make any GBBRs older than the AK. WE, despite the jank, make a pretty eclectic bunch of replicas e.g. Colt Junior, Beretta 950, L85, if WE hadn't bothered I don't think we'd see other manufacturers stepping in.
why are airsofters generally broke retards?
>>230900VFC made a PPSh and I think VFC has at least slightly better quality guns than WE does.
>>230807This. Had 3 WE ARs, then bought an MWS and now I'm on team VFC
>>230901We spend our money on our hobby and come to games to play and not talk about normalfag shit
>>230904yeah that's the problem lol
>>230810Have an MP2A1 and it's my least used replica. Not cold weather resistant at all. From the looks of it the Famas isn't very good as well. It seems like Northeast is what VFC was 10 years ago. Decent replicas of real firearms but not very good for actual gameplay. Hope they improve and are on par with VFC
>>230905Go do another hobby, normalnigger
>>230907you're retarded lol
>>230903>Had 3 WE ARsMy condolences>then bought an MWS and now I'm on team VFCWhat made you do the switch? Muh realism or was there something wrong with the Marui?
>>230909Mostly realism and I wanted an M16 but making one on the MWS system is retardedly expensive. Only have TM pistols now and I love them but all the TM rifles feel like toys to me
>>230917>I wanted an M16Very good reason. I'm thinking of coming back to airsoft and I'm tempted to buy either the VFC M16A2 or the 727 but I'm probably going to end up with some HPGay because it's such a massive force multiplier in airshit.
>>230919slug
is there a way to make gas produce more "smoke" when firing without using those smoke units?
>>230919>caring about wining and not having funtried HPA once and don't want to go back after using GBBRs
My friends are making fun of me for putting a gueissele SMR on an HK416A5
>>230942Good
>>230942416 is quadrails onlyeverything else is wrong
>>230945A7 is pretty cool with the M-lok, ackshyually
>>230942Post pic
>>230946>hk using something not proprietary you are still dreaming anon
>>230979
>>230980I refuse to believe that Hk made something that is standard. guy in the back original HK not-keymod-gofuckyourself.
Does anyone have the slightest clue if the tridos.design rail adapter for the SSX23/MK23 fits the KWA MK23? It almost seems like a no brainer on paper, and yet I can't find this specific piece of info anywhere as if no one has actually attempted it.https://tridos.design/products/frame-rail
The new cyma aks arent actually full steel. Outer barrel is still shitty pot metal that makes the gun wobbly before long
>Just sold my cyma ak so I'm down to a reasonable three guns>Someone posts a cheap PKM for sale
>>231385If you're referring to the Cyplats, that means a lot of retailers have been engaging in a fuckload of false advertising since every single retailer I've seen listing the things mentions that at least the receiver and outer barrel are steelEither that or you need to RMA the thing, because you got a model with an incorrect outer barrel
>buying Cymashit
>>231560Where>The outer hull, except for the barrel and trigger, is made of steelhttps://airsoft-rus.ru/catalog/1025/510805/Its full steel, gweilo! *except for x, y and z
i was so fucking annoyed by this crap's avability i just drew it in fusionalso how not to cad 101 sketches lmao
>>231621nice job. I just designed some mags for this hpa converted gbbr I'm using but your sketches look a lot cleaner than the absolute monstrosity I've been starting at for a few days.
>>231624>hpa converted gbbrthe one that has the HPA line going through the grip and has mags that keep the bolt catch function?
>>231625yeah one of those
>>231625It's the first real thing I've designed in CAD but I wanted short mags.
>>231624im now printing it with my voron machine>>231627this looks really nice anon, good job there too
>>231628Thanks. I think it's a good system and the file availability is a huge bonus. I'll likely upload the files once I can verify they function nicely. printer is down for a week while I wait for a new hotend throat.
i hope this works because i am pretty sure that paramatric constraints are broken beyond repair before i did all the filletsif this doesnt work some thogh time awaits
>>231631it fits well but i found some minor problemsall fixable very easily surprisingly and ar stock fits really welli think the fixed design will work perfectly
>>231656>it fits well but i found some minor problemsrelatable
>>231673picrel is a first printall problem it has are hook position and hinge hole&grubscrew diameter
>>231682came out looking great. nailing the dimensions seems to be the hard part.
2nd iteration worked perfectly without any modification
after sanding and burnishingif you ask about strength it is more than usablecant feel any of the flmsy of usual 3d prints
>>231991pa6cf?
>>232004asa-cf, i will reprint in pa6cf though
>>232032hell yeah dude
Is this shit discontinued or does it get restocked like once a decade?https://www.evike.com/products/61466/No reputable retailer anywhere seems to have the black version available, and from what I've seen Zshot went tits up like 5 years ago.
>>232145If you're saying the manufacturer went out of business years ago, then a restock seems unlikely anywhere, so you're left with lesser retailers and secondhand market.
>>232160Man that sucks dick. I'm pretty sure they were the only ones making actual licensed Osprey replicas, and because of my cuntry's import laws I'm practically limited to Evike only to buy shit.>If you're saying the manufacturer went out of business years agoTo be honest that's a half assumption on my part and half logical conclusion. Some fags on plebbit said they fucked over like a couple dozen people on some expensive shit around 2020 and then they completely disappeared after getting called out. The dates line up with screenshots on wayback machine too, but I'm not sure them being out of business was ever officially announced in any way. They just up and vanished since then and that was it. I can't find any actual legal confirmation of bankruptcy, then again I'm no expert so I may be not looking in the right places. Funnily enough, one of the main reasons why I had my doubts about this whole thing is they do still have the shorter 9mm version in tan on Evike. So it either means they're somehow still getting stock of that one somehow, or it's so ugly and undesirable that they still have 5 year old stock on hand.Anyway, I guess that's a no-go for that. I was looking to get a cool square-ish suppressor for the USP Tac I have coming in soon but it's slim pickings on this site. The closest things I like seem to be pic related or the Dytac mock suppressor for Vectors.
>>232161>it's so ugly and undesirable that they still have 5 year old stock on handThis DESU. It'd say either buy the tan one and paint it black, or somehow get a 3D-printed one.
>>232145Here is one from a different company for sale in europe:https://www.powair6.com/en/dummy-silencer/5281-pps-osprey-style-14mm-dummy-long-suppressor.html
>>232194Unfortunately like I said in >>232161, I'm limited to Evike for my airsoft autism. Otherwise I think this would be another great optionhttps://us.novritsch.com/product/modular-suppressor-v2/As it stands where I live, I'd literally have to get an actual firearms import permit in order to import airsoft stuff because there are no airsoft laws here, so it basically means they get treated as firearms in customs just because "they shoot stuff". The only reason I can get shit from Evike is I know a middleman with a local store who can import from them specifically, but not from any other retailer.
>old head hereI shouldve got one of the old 8mm Marushins mossbergs when I had the chance. The one that didnt use shells. >>232306I used to talk to Evike and his Uncle all the time, when their shop was just a "hole in the wall". Where did all the time go?
Anyone doing any cool kits or just typical airsoft/vidya inspired faggot shit?
>>232306>it basically means they get treated as firearms in customs just because "they shoot stuff".Canada?
>>232306beanerland?
>>228623I used to be a reenactor but Im an Asian, thats the reason why everyone mocked me in a Wehrmacht/SS uniforms. So I was selling my Artillery Waffenrock uniform bc of them
Is the tac41 sl worth it or just yet another shilled product?
>>232745>>232749as a certified Canadoid, airsoft guns over 366FPS (which is the import minimum, because otherwise they're considered prohibited replica firearms for the purposes of importation) are considered unregulated firearms meaning they can be privately imported, purchased and owned by anyone over 18 (though the CBSA really likes to fuck over private importers of airsoft guns whenever possible)More likely Brazil, where owning airsoft is an 18+ thing but importing it is a "gun dealer licensing" matter that's resulted in it being prohibitively expensive for most people since actual licensed importers jack up the prices to an extent that would make Canadian retailers blush - though I have to wonder why he's using Evike at that point since that would also qualify as importation
>>232867I'm also Canadian, but him saying>The only reason I can get shit from Evike is I know a middleman with a local store who can import from them specifically, but not from any other retailer.Made me think they were talking about AndysAirsoft, since they do redwolf and evike imports.
>>232745>>232749No dice, but I can tell you it's Central America. Not a beaner or a HUE but somewhere in between.>>232867>>232882If I'm completely honest, I don't know the specifics of why exactly my middleman only imports from Evike. It's not something that I'm interested in knowing or even if he's willing to divulge it to begin with, but I've never asked him anyway.In any case, after looking through this list https://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf-airsoft-shipping I can tell you I am in fact completely fucked and not even accessories are legal to import without a firearm permit. Funnily enough I've bought some cheap lasers for fun in aliexpress and I'm fairly certain they only get through because they get declared to customs as "camera range finder equipment " or similar things to that extent.
>>232986Costa Rica it is, since that's the only country that says "cannot ship airsoft guns" without at least stating that accessories are fineSucks that they're that strict about it, my guess as to why your middleman is using Evike is that he may have a contact in the US that can get free shipping on his bulk orders, thus being considerably cheaper to ship abroad than having Evike (who are notoriously bad about international shipping costs) do it themselves - but that's just my theory
>>233005Guess that was a bit too on the nose, huh. Yeah that's the place.>my guess as to why your middleman is using Evike is that he may have a contact in the US that can get free shipping on his bulk ordersThat may be the case. I purchased some pistols with him months and months ago, and just very recently he told me that the reason they hadn't gotten here is they got packed into a big bulk order along with, what he called, traumatic weapons. Turns out they all got here ages ago, but those traumatic weapons specifically got rejected by customs, and since they all came in bulk, he couldn't just pick and choose which ones to keep here and which ones to send back, so the entire bulk order got sent back no questions asked. He did mention they were being shipped from Florida as it happens with a lot of imports here, so your theory might be quite close to the truth.
>>233040I honestly suspect it's a case of a US-based contact because that's roughly similar to how some people I've talked to who live near the US-Canada border can take advantage of both free shipping from US retailers and not being fucked with by customs when importing from elsewhere - some people open up PO boxes stateside with the express purpose of giving themselves a US address to ship to so that they can just drive down, pick up their goods, make them Canada-compliant (by increasing the velocity above a certain threshold, because the CBSA is retarded and decided that airsoft guns have to hit hard enough to pierce a pig's eye to be legal to import) and produce forms confirming as such if the product hasn't already gone through that, and bring it back with them in their belongings since it's a lot harder for the CBSA to be as much of a pain in the ass as they normally can be when it means stopping someone who's actively entering the country without anything illegal on themShit sucks but it's not the worst way to work around a terrible situationAlso, out of curiosity, what's the airsoft scene in Costa Rica like?
>>233103Right, I reckon that's more or less how he does it. Again, I don't have any interest to ask him about it in detail, but if it lines up with how you know other people do it, then it's more than likely close enough.>Also, out of curiosity, what's the airsoft scene in Costa Rica like?My interest lies more in collecting replicas of weapons I find cool for one reason or another, so I haven't been too keen on investigating actual events around here. That said, based on what I've found during my occasional research on airsoft, the community ranges from extremely small to borderline nonexistent.That probably comes down to two factors:1. The cost of the hobby in general is astronomically high because you can't just go to your local Walmart to buy a $30 BB gun for shits and giggles, specially not for licensed/branded replicas. Your only options are contacting people like this guy I know, who clearly has to make a profit somehow so for example, if you want a $100 pistol from Evike, he'll mark it up to be roughly $200 in our currency. The price increase is approximately +100% in most cases just because the process of importing them is such an asspain, and I'm fairly certain actually selling them too is in a bit of a gray area legally. For instance, I don't think he's ever asked me for my age or ID, even though it should be limited to +18.2. As I've mentioned, all "shooting devices" are heavily regulated unless they're literal toys like Nerf guns or similar shit, and real firearms are practically reserved for law enforcement. You can get a carry permit but it's a convoluted process and you'll be lucky if you can carry a small self defense pistol/revolver by the end, let alone purchase a big caliber rifle. This has lead to more than one group of airsofters to just fizzle out over time because the barrier of entry is so restrictive and expensive that the average guy will never bother to take up the hobby. It is for all intents and purposes a hobby for the wealthy.
just got booted from a game today>be firefighter>me and the boys go to a beginner's airsoft dig>buy some basic airsoft shit; mismatched camo, gun etc>teams are getting picked>enemy team has a pic related except wearing a ghillie suit>is so fucking fat the ghillie suit doesn't cover him properly>can see his regular clothes through his ghillie>fatboy has some fucking alien gun GPA sniper rifle with 100m range>so accurate it's basically a laser beam>get a thermal imaging camera out my truck that i use for fire safety inspections>tuck it into my pouches>game starts>i know fatfuck is too fucking fat to actually walk into the arena and do objectives>bitchtits just sits at the back and shoots at random kid with his £2000 gun>go as wide as i can>don't shoot any other players>take out my TIC>scan bushes>giant fucking white ghillie blob appears clear as day>bright fucking white slurmblob>fatfuck must be sweating like a beast inside his ghillie suit>sneak to around 10m behind his fatbitch ass>full auto him in the ass cheek>he whails in some kind of blubberspeak>"SNARF SNARF, UHHH HIT">waddles off back to start point>i stay put and hide>keep tracking him with my TIC>he wobblewalks back out to the same place>flumps his fat bitchass back down and starts sniping>full auto his fat ass cheek in the same place>he screams and slurmburps something in fatspeak>waddles back to spawn>this time he comes back looking for me>get's fatfatigue and decides to give up the seach>dumps his fat ass back down in the same spot>i throw a pyrotechnic grenade at hime>lands on his fatfolks>he fatpanics and tries to get up>can't>rolls over on his back like a fucking beached whale>grenade goes off next to him>full auto him in his fatboy belly for good measure>he calls the marshal on me for shooting him while he was already out>lifts his shirt to show marshal all the pellet marks on his blubberbrev i fucking laughed so hard i started crying
>>233510Funny but didn't happen
>>233510Didn't happen but it should have, just like certain historical events
>>233644lmao real
>>233510>firefighterYou're clearly petty enough to be one>get raised to believe all firefighters are heroes>know the son of one, says that's bullshit>be in mall>walking through parking lot, super quiet>see Firefighter kid and his little brother>little brother runs ahead on crosswalk>firefighter gallops over, picks the kid up, starts smacking him>"DO YOU WANT TO GET HURT? THAT'S HOW YOU GET HURT!">the son I know runs over, apologizing>dad backhands him, yells at him for not watching over his little brother>as far as I know, we had 3 fires total, over 10 years all of them small brush fires and a couple of basic 911 tier calls>that's all the local department ever went on, and firefighter dad got a 20% discount at the mall applebees for and jerked himself off overThanks for proving your career is filled with fags
Aight gents I'm gonna be an NPC in an event here soon. Somewhat postapoc, I'm gonna be a banker. I've got one of those KWC CO2 Uzis, does anyone know a good shoulder holster for a pdw like that? Well, good as in will last me a weekend for airsoft. I'm gonna try to hide it under a suit jacket so I can at least make a last stand when the goons come shoot my guards and come for the vault.
Also why do you guys hate HPA? I come from a paintball background and HPA makes a gun so much more reliable than the tamiya clockworks. I just wish it was a little easier to get into; I'd rather everyone walk around with those.
>>234268its fuckin gay and boring
>>234276and I mean HPA "engines". HPA to power GBBs is based and basedpilled.
>>228179don't be a pussy and spray that shit up
>>234277HPA for gbbrs is mega gay and retarded. Kill yourself, faggot.
>>234268Tier of gun usersMelee > Using the field rentals as a regular > using springers > using a basic bitch aeg or gas (bb or nbb, doesn't matter) at lowcap > using a basic bitch aeg or gbb at midcap > newbie using field rental >faggots with a special ebb or gbbr blowback mid/lowcapwho needs a $900 gun to beat up teenagers >hpa lowcap > aeg/gas hicap > hpa midcap > hpa hicapWhen the sport was first started, it was japs perfectly happy to shoot plastic pellets at each other just hard enough to notice, but not cause permanent damage. Airsoft was (and still is) great in this zone. 250-450 fps, playing with midcaps? Perfect.Then faggots started pressing it too far. 500+ fps. 400 round magazines. They snicker and try and act like they're the greatest (hurr, my gun is more killy than yours and worth more xD) but anyone with half a brain knows it's a case of diminishing returns--you're paying $900 for a quarter of what some budget basic $400 Palmetto ar15 can do>but I'm such a special tactical genius cqb ranger black ops operator I need a mega gun for my mega skillsI've generally noticed that the worse the player, the harder they try and act like they're a gucci daniel defense larperator in real life. Does your field have team color rules? Bitches try and play ambiguous within the rules, and wear colors that can be confused for either side. Fun people make it clear which side they're on. HPA guns are the same thing--retards trying too hard to beat up teenagers and parents there for a birthday party.In sum? Legit killers are content to play with field rentals, laugh it off when some newbie shoots them, and will happily wear just red or blue in a red vs. blue game.Wannabes bring super spec'd up HPA guns to murder kids there for the first time, throw a pissy fit that someone friendly fires them when they're wearing brown and refuse to wear color/team bands, and make the field worse, because they complain "if I'd have a real gun, I'd kill you!"
>>234301kill me yourself you bitch.
>>232722Be the change you want to see anonHere'a little tidbit for those who know what I'm talking about>guy wears a wizard costume to airsoft>field sees an increase in fantasy-themed gear and tactical cloaks
>>234310>>234310pretty true
I'm going to open my own airsoft field with fps limits of 350 for everything, your BFGs are banned, no high caps at all (exceptions for timmies will be made, they're easy enough to spot). cannot wait to turn away all the people who will pray on my downfall because they're too stupid to get a green light.
>>234310cope
>>234310>>234319That ranking only applies for over 18s (which you should be to post here)Kiddies can bring whatever, hell, up to and including 21 can play hpa hicap.Past that though?You need to overshoot a little kid and confuse him with your camo? (IT'S NOT CRYTEK BROWN, IT'S CRYTEK FADED COYOTE!)Faggot>t. a guy who gets $700 HPAs out with a c02 lowcap
>>234319project
>>234320thnk u four ur cervix
>>234313Yeah I dont get it eitherIm guessing the jannie is actually one of the two pedophile posters >>234304>>234304 and thats why he so selectively and defensively deleted and banned here. Janny you are an actual corrupt piece of shit I hope you know that, you worthless fucking loser Why are you bending over backwards to protect pedos, janny? Quite suspicious!! This is not a troll post in any way nor have any of my posts ever been trollingThis is pure and unlawful CENSORSHIP based on nothing but personal motiveCENSORSHIPCENSORSHIPCENSORSHIPCENSORSHIP
>>234322thanks anon you can put your 6mm balls on me anytime
schizoposting and retardposting at the same time is crazy.
>>234317Incredibly based, I wish you luck.
>>234317what's a BFG?
>>234348airsoft version of dooms BFG
you must be at least 18 years or older to post here
>>234320>Kiddies can bring whatever, hell, up to and including 21 can play hpa hicap.No way. Kids with HPA's are whiny brats with parents who get them whatever they want and will also spaz out when they get hit/not get hit despite their expensive loadout because $$$ = winning.
>>234402This. There was a video a few years ago where some brat got tackled for being a petty overshooting faggot and got banned from the field
>>234402Exactly, you let them have it because >>234411Is stuff that'll root the dumb timmies out early. Most if not all fields I know are happy to ban retards, because insurance policies are worth their weight in gold, if nothing more than a karen legal defense wall>why did you ban my baby boy he didn't do anything wrong>ma'am he violated our safety rules insurance requires us to control or ban overly-aggressive playersOpen-shut case in any court, Karen can't don't do jack shit
>Buy replica 4th gen 6B45 vest from Aliexpress>Canadian customs hold it back for 33 days>Finally release it>They confiscated the inside liningThe absolute state of this nanny state
>>234453>Can'tadiansorry to hear about your disability, man
i sorta want to play airsoft again for the first time in like 10 years but cant decide whether i want to do a full cowboy larp or get a GBB SMG of some kind. i fully expect ill play 1 full game and then never do it again
>>234532oh yea i guess i could get an AEG SMG too but i feel like AEGs are kinda boring
>>234453that's sad
>Tokyo Marui master r-ACK!
>>234651Funnily enough most trannies I see are HPA users
>>234532>GBB SMGThis would be more fun, single shot cowboy stuff might get frustrating after a while. Get a VFC MP7.>>234651What happened to TM?>>234746>most trannies I seeI've never seen a tranny at an airsoft game, where do you live that you've seen multiple?
>>234789>where do you live that you've seen multiple?Must be an American thing I have only seen a tranny once in all my years and it was a young girl that was bald and identified as a boy.HPA here at least is just a thing people who stay in the hobby longer than 1 year usually invest in. Doesn't matter if they are casual, speedsoft or milfatty
>>234268Genuinely "people" here are too retarded to understand how it works so they're afraid of it.
>>234310This is pretty bad poorfag cope and I've seen it numerous times. They also never say this to anyone's face but cry and shit themselves on faceberg groups about muh ebil HPA.
>>234791>>234792You just know they are standing in the corner in the safe zone reracking their gbbr a thousand times because nobody wants to talk to them
>>234793From my experience it has mostly been stick thin faggots for some reason and obeasts in the middle of their gear journey. As in they aren't just fresh newbs but haven't yet gotten anything actually good so they see everything more accurate than their fucked up shitheap a personal sligh against them. I didn't see many GBBRs here. I would ironically want a GBBR myself but I've only had bad experiences with them and mid caps are such a huge force multiplier in airshit it's not even funny.
>>234794I swapped out all my hpa engine guns (except my vss mancraft) and swapped to gbbr but I use hpa adapters with them. I get the recoil and I can still use full auto and compete because my mag count Is higher.
>>234795I would love for some company to make a daytona gun because I'm not paying whatever the fuck they want for those fiddly pieces of shit. Or any of the other conversion kits people make. Sadly I've heard the E&L T191 is dogshit so there hasn't been any progress in this matter.
they should make airsoft guns that you have to blow into to shoot
>>234796Not exactly the same I guess but there's the frog engineering guy that converts gbbrs to take his own AEG midcaps and it uses some hpa solution so the line comes out the grip. It's kinda pricy tho. I think it cost 300+ euro for a mws conversion. Though tbf you have to send it to him and he does it so that price does include labor
>>234798That's one of the fiddly conversion kits I was talking about. I've seen a bunch of people complain about his mags because they're made out of cheap thin 3D resin so they're very easy to break. I haven't seen any opinions on how those kits actually work though. It's a much better option than a daytona because it uses OEM parts instead of their gay hop ups and buckings but it's not ideal.
>>234796Probably because no one wants that faggot shit. Either use gbbrs as they're intended to be used or fuck off back to using aegs or hpa
>>234802Did an HPA tapped GBBR fuck your mother? Or is there any other reason you're seething so hard?
>>234803>wHo hUrT yOu???You sound like a woman
>>234804You sound like an assblasted faggot for overreacting like a bitch like that.
>>234802It's okay anon let all your anger out. Maybe one day someone at the airsoft field will pity you enough and try to talk to you
>>234805>>234807>assblasted faggot samefagging Pathetic
>>234809>everyone i disagree with on 4chang is the same person
>>234809Keep going I'm almost there
>>234796keep an eye out for my work :)
>>234802you're a faggot lmao
>>234802If Planet Eclipse made an Emek in 6mm I'd run a GBBR
>AEG/HPA/GBBR shitflinging againDo you people even play airsoft. Also springer master race
>>234885yes, that's why I use an HPA'd GBBR.
>>234887What model?
>>228063>AirsoftImagine LARPing with some plastic tacticool crap and going pew pew at each other with a toy like you're some kind of navy SEALs badasss. Cringiest shit ever. No thanks, I'll stick to my real guns like a man.
>>234893Last I checked I couldn't shoot real guns at my friends for very long
Co2 cartridge chads never argue because we know we're the best
>>234888we-tech because I like working on my airsoft guns and have access to tooling. wouldn't recommend the v2s to anyone not like me.
>>234888This is my stuff. From top left to bottomKing arms vss with a mancraft engine in it.CTM AP7 (AAP) G&P MWSDE N4 MWSMk23 (I don't like this kit I printed I'll have to try something else or just go back to using it as a sidearm) KJW P226 in printed kitSome random gold match hicapa I bought used. I want a different slide for it at some point. WE Glock 17AAP printed kitAAP kit. Actually feeds from the m4 mag which I thought was pretty coolAnother AAP lolWE Apache MP5 (i use a shorter barrel with some printed stabilizers and then no end cap it's so loud kek AAP Lambda kitArmy Armament G36 WE clone from Begadi. I printed a new handguard for it. AAP in a uzi kitI also have a disassembled cyma svd for a project I haven't finished yet and 2 more AAP's in parts lel
>>234902only thing you're missing is an aug or p90
>>234893>thinks he's le cool badass larperator for shooting at steel and paper. Go live your oper8or dreams somewhere else, loser
>>234897CO2 is the worst kind of gas replicas
>>234903Idk if I wanted a bullpup I'd get a F2000. There is a MWS kit for it on Cults but eh I don't really want it enough to buy the parts to make it
>>234905*teleports behind you**puts a co2 cartridge up your ass*
>>234894turns out, the government provides a free opfor if you do it
Did see some guy with a GBBR AR a while back, I guess it had gas in the magazine like a pistol, and it was pretty sweet. Do they make any that are reliable; every single gas pistol I've fucked with starts taking a shit after like 5 games or so.
>>234940Tokyo Marui MWS and VFC V3 ARs are your go tos
>>234941>>234940seconding these recommendations.
>>234941Aren't the hop ups in the VFC's still trash? I saw a video by 4uad and the accuracy on it stock was terrible
>>234943>a video by a new hopup bucking seller says the stock bucking they sell a replacement for is trashI have no idea why they would say that
hi aldo
>>234943Just got a new VFC AR last week. Gonna play with it next weekend. Got the 4UAD hop up chamber in my other VFC AR and I gotta say I'm not impressed. I'd say it's not that useful. It's a pain in the ass to adjust and it tended to readjust itself by shooting until I made the wheel more stiff to turn and now it's a pain in the ass to turn. Now I prefer the original adjustment wheel behind the handguard. Both of my ARs are retro with clamshell handguards so it's more convenient to just take of one half and turn, shoot, turn, shoot until the hop is set instead of having to take the mag out, locking the bolt back, putting a hex key through the ejection port and fiddling around to turn the adjustment wheel inside the barrel extension and having to repeat the process every time you want to make an adjustment. I's say the 4UAD hop chamber is only useful if you change the external barrel to a steel one on a URG-I or something and you lose the guide hop adjustment through the gas block.
>>234943>4uadReally nigga
>>234532>>234789my posts were from a while ago but anyway i thought about it some more. i'm not really excited playing airsoft in itself, because the whole "hose people down in the bushes with a plastic AEG" part is honestly quite boring and gay to me, and that was most of my experience in the past. however i do miss plinking with my shitty GBB glock, and i miss handling authentic replicas in general. good news is that i have no real autistic obsession wrt any specific gun so i figured i could just get random used guns for cheap, play a few games with them and maybe fix them up a bit, then resell them for about the same price if and when i get bored>Get a VFC MP7.yeah thats one of the few guns i was interested in, mainly because of the build quality. i was also looking at the vorsk vmp-1 because its smaller and could double as a funky full auto sidearm for MED reasons, but it seems of dubious qualitythe only gun i have a real autistic raifu type obsession with is probably the M14 (M39) EBR, but that'd have to be a 1000 euro AEG project and i'm like 90% sure i'd regret it. i even know its a pretty stupid gun IRL and also in airsoft but i still want it
>>235033>however i do miss plinking with my shitty GBB glock, and i miss handling authentic replicas in general. good news is that i have no real autistic obsession wrt any specific gun so i figured i could just get random used guns for cheap, play a few games with them and maybe fix them up a bit, then resell them for about the same price if and when i get boredoh yeah i meant to elaborate that i have essentially 0 desire to play with a normal AEG anymore. if its possible i hope to find a GBB/EBB only field in my area because playing with 30-40 capacity GBB against someone hosing down the range with a 500 capacity 2000RPM AEG kinda sucks
>>235034just let those tards waste their ammo. I love when some aeg/hpa retard sprays hundreds of BBs in my direction when I'm behind a concrete wall lmao
>>235035yeah but still, i think id rather feel like im larping a real scenario than playing against timmy who tuned his gearbox to fire beams of pure light. that said one of the reasons i wanted to get a schofield and larp as a cowboy was to clown on AEG players thoughi may just have irrational hatred for highcap gamers ever since some jerkoff stole the highcap stanag that came with my gun back in 2013
any thoughts on how the next gen electric blowback guns feel to shoot? is it just an AEG with just some minor recoil, or do they also have less motor whine and so on? any performance worries?i've been eyeing this thing as like a platform for either DMR or AR stuff
>>235034Play at fields that do semi only. Lowers the gap a bit. Obviously you are still at a disadvantage, but it's not that bad.>>235037All EBB's suck. TM recoils are really overpriced. Recoil is non existent it's just the bolt going back and forth, they also come with the con of being made for jap fields so they are very underpowered and if you do a spring swap you will kill it. Take a look on YT where people build them. You are basically swapping out all the internals for something skirmishable.. . The only "good" ebb is BOLT, but they also come with their issues. They rattle so much you have to loctite every screw, and you can't use standard gears with them either. I think if you want a scar gbb the best currently is the Guns Modify one? But I'm not actually sure if they make both a L and H model. Otherwise VFC but that one isn't perfect either.
My chingchong Remington clone is only shooting like 410fps with .25s and I can't get much more than 70 or so feet with it. How much can I expect from a springer?
>>235050>only 410>only>70 feetlmao. shit hopup.
>>235073Makes sense. The hop is mated to the outer barrel and I think the whole thing is canted slightly to the right. I'll have to do a full teardown and try to see if I can cam it or shim it with a level.
>>231385The outer barrels on CYMA AKs are aluminum. You can weld up the pin slots and redrill them if they get loose.>>230326Is that airshit? My friends and I made an RPG-7 ages ago that used a thermobaric style "rocket" to hide CO2 shells + nerf footballs. It was cool because you could actually fire it with the faux rocket attached, then swap it out for another rocket. Most other airsoft RPG-7 must have the rocket removed to fire, and are then limited to shitty shower shells-- not something that can knock out a vehicle.
>>235080Yeah Julien Cendie over at Reaper's House makes them out of steel in France, among other things.
People say HPA users are trannies, yet the biggest gbb community is filled with them or people that accept themInteresting....
>>235207Interesting. Now show the biggest HPA community.Also hope that HRC trannies ACK! themselves.
i dont get the appeal of HPAif you asked me what could be more immersion breaking than lugging around a big RC car battery in your gun, then i would have said lugging around an air tank on your back and attaching it to your gun by a tubemaybe it makes sense if you are doing a hellgun larp from wh40k
>>235238A sewing machine is a lot more "immersion breaking" than a concealed air tank and a hose if you want to go with that angle
>>235238The appeal of hpa is that it works.
>>235371wheres the fun
>>235367Having a hose attached is a lot more immersion breaking than a properly shimmed gearbox >>235371Funnily enough I see a lot of guys having problem with HPA. Even with MTWs
>>235376>properly shimmed gearboxlollmaoThat still sounds like a sewing machine
>>235375In going outside and playing airsoft. I guess I'm at the age in my life where I want to buy something, and have it work. >>235376It can't be worse than AEGs or gas blowback; sold a guy a TP22 and on his third outing it started having feed issues which is fucking wild. I personally spent nearly $400 on a Krytac and it's been an absolute nightmare for years, and I've had to do valves in all the mags for my GBB pistols multiple times. Meanwhile the guys who run MTWs seem to get consistent performance with them all the time and no weird issues like selector plate wear, sheared gears, burned out motors, disconnector issues or anything like that. Also I have an Axe 1 that I let sit in a pole barn for 4 years covered in paint, hooked it up to a tank, and started ramping ten balls a second, without any new lube. No leaks, fired flawlessly. The gamut of issues I've encountered on AEGs has been absolutely wild too, as well as having pretty damn good GBB pistols like G&Gs with cracked valves and deformed piston seals. I mean, if there's better manufacturers of AEGs and GBB please let me know. As of now our field is planning to stick Mechlabs units in all our rentals.
>>235385And Empire is fucking garbage; if you have internal issues with an AEG you're gonna be fucking with it for four hours. If your gamma core leaks you slather it in white lithium grease, spray the frame with a fucking garden hose and shake it out, put your bolt back in, bob's your uncle.
>>235385I had an HPA'd M16 I built myself and the only thing I ever had to do once I dialed the settings in was to refill the tank every so often. It was also extremely flexible because I could adjust my FPS before every game very easily, even more easily than a quick change spring. I also had a bunch of AEGs and a few GBBRs before that and they all had some absolutely retarded issue which should never even occur. Feeding issues despite being new guns, nozzles exploding, terrible trigger response and contacts burning out just to name a few. The only annoying thing about HPA is refilling the tanks if you can't do it a home. Other than that it was my best airshit purchase. Worked every time in every weather and was always consistent.
>>235387That's what I'm saying. One of the biggest arguments I see against hpa in the thread is that it's for people who want an unfair advantage. I'd argue that HPA should be the standard like it is in paintball. I want airsofters to be able to drop a couple hundo on a gun and have it run for a million cycles with basic maintenance like you can in paintball.
HPA non GBBRs are for absolute faggots lmao
>>235389If wanting a functional gun is for faggots then line up those cocks and I'll suck em all. I think airsofters are too willing to accept dogshit, are too forgiving for companies selling them completely unreliable trash.
>>235388Airniggers seem to have an allergy to reliability or are just sour grapes because they can't afford them like this fag>>235389But then they go on to buy 5 shitty guns instead of 1 good one and piss and shit themselves about pay to win and other unfair advantages. All the while forgetting an HPA'd gun is so much more flexible than an AEG. In an ideal world someone would make a proper recoil kit for HPA but as it is now I'd rather have a reliable gun I can rely on every single time I go out to play instead of something arguably more fun but not as reliable.
>>235375>wheres the funI plug in hose on my WE gbb mp5 drum mag now I can fire full auto and make loud noise and there's recoil.How's that not fun
>>235391They make recoil guns for those guys though, they're called Tiberius Arms/First Strike. And they're good.
the classic cope>ur poor!cope harder with your microswitch triggers lmao
paintball players coming into airsoft are like californians moving to any other state. your "sport" is stagnant as fuck despite a gorillion dollars being pumped into it for 50 years and you've learned nothing.
>>235395>petty faggot doesnt even directly replySeems like I struck a nerve
get owned faggot lmao
>>235396I dunno dude, I just feel like I should expect a product I pay for to function without endless tinkering. If reliable guns are what killed paintball then this world doesn't make any sense.
>>235396>>235399
>>235401What was the lesson then; sell cheap shit that doesn't work because people will buy it anyway? I mean, tbf people buy Anderson and PSA so it's not far fetched.
>>235385>pretty damn good GBB pistols like G&GsLol, lmao. Buy TM or VFC and their offshoot brands and you'll be fine. G&Gs as gbbs are dogshit
>>235393No realistic manual of arms therefore no fun.
>>235393you make a good point, as does the other anon who has accurately surmised that everything in airshit is airshit and breaks constantlyi deliberately made a provocative post in order to stoke the fires of conversation and now i sorta want a HPA GBA
>>235412>i deliberately made a provocative post in order to stoke the fires of conversation and now i sorta want a HPA GBAno idea why i wrote GBA i meant GBB. i dont want a gas blow ass, i want a gas blow back
gas blow ass lmfao
bringing my gameboy advance
What's the appeal of using GBBRs with HPA adapters? Seems lane to me. Why don't you want to have a realistic manual of arms?
>>235413>i dont want a gas blow assBut anon that's what all GBBs do at some point. Jokes aside I would like a proper HPA GBB that isn't a hackjob like a daytona or those frog engineering kits but it is what it is.
>>235435I don't want to maintain gas mags, they suck for full auto, cooldown is annoying and varying performance for every shot because there's less gas in the chamber.Besides that I just don't really care about muh realism, just the illusion of it. Like how people play Battlefield instead of Squad.besides I don't understand being so pissy about it. Like going to a normal Sunday game and acting assblasted because other people aren't propane sniffers like you is just pathetic
>>235435>adaptersgay>conversion kitsbased
>>235438What is hack about daytona? I've had two of them and I'm looking to make my own conversion kit after experiencing all the kits I could find in the last 10 years. What would you be looking for? A GBBR built from the ground up for HPA? Probably beyond what I can do but I'm curious.
>>235441>I don't want to maintain gas magsWhat's there to maintain. I have never had a leaky mag>they suck for full autoauto is gay and retarded but some retards like wasting BBs>muh performanceAirsoft is about having fun. It's pathetic how some "people" come to airsoft to "win"
>>235446>A GBBR built from the ground up for HPA?Something like Tippmann but not shit
>>235446Don't Daytonas suck? Know a couple of guys who had them and they hated them.
imagine not just throwing bbs
what's that incredibly expensive AR AEG that has high recoil and doesn't work like a regular AEG and sounds like sex? I remember seeing a video of it but I can't remember what it was.
>>235455DAS GBLS?
>>235451They're just too expensive for how many quirks they have. Tommybuilt type shit. Sure they offer kits for some guns that don't have good GBBRs to be host to HPA for but the break-in period on top of the particular regulator+hose setup I had to put together to get it to work made me not like it. For the price they shouldn't have so many problems. The people who are fans of them are evangelical about it and typically don't have much xp with any other system. >>235450I wanted one before they discontinued it. Seemed like it would be a bit more robust but I guess they didn't believe in it. >>235453Let me guess, you need more?
>>235451Oh and to add to my complaints about DG they had a lot of bolt bounce and the AKs were a nightmare to get mags for. The body and the DG feed tube made for the most picky princesses to please.
>>235456oh yes that's it.those look pretty fun to use
Closest to a airsoft tec9 we will ever get
>>235446>What is hack about daytona?Their stupid proprietary buckings for one. Also break in period and fifty additional mods so the gun actually functions correctly which are obviously additionally priced if you order from the jews directly.>What would you be looking for?A conversion kit that's drop in and reversible so no drilling in any of the parts of the gun. Also it has to use standard AEG mags, no proprietary bullshit. I don't care about shit like a working bolt catch but if it's there and working then it's a nice bonus.>>235449>auto is gay and retarded but some retards like wasting BBs>proceeds to say airsoft is about having fun right in the next sentenceIf this isn't a badly thought out cope then I don't know what else is.>>235451>Know a couple of guys who had them and they hated them.I've seen three daytonas so far and all have been absolute trash. Jamming constantly with worse performance than a bone stock plastic cyma. Two were converted by their owners but one was done a shop so there is no cope of them being improperly built.
>>235462You know there's an actual airsoft Tec-9 right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvol6WzJbNM
>>235464>What would you be looking for?>A conversion kit that's drop in and reversible so no drilling in any of the parts of the gun. Also it has to use standard AEG mags, no proprietary bullshit. I don't care about shit like a working bolt catch but if it's there and working then it's a nice bonus.This is what I'm looking to make.
>>235464>spraying and praying is funkys, nigger
>>235466Then I unironically hope you actually succeed. I'd be willing to put down some dosh if it's any good. I'd even go as far as having it shipped to yurop since I'm assuming you're a burgerstani.>>235469What a great retort you coping retard.
>>235404Sheesh. I guess if you spend $400 on a pistol it'll probably end up working at that point. Makes sense though. Shop has a VFC Glock then, I'll try running a burndown with it and see how far it gets.
>>235450First Strike
>>235469Suppressive fire is an important part of fire and movement tactics.
>>235534Ehhh, not when you're spamming 100-200 rounds every other minute. It's gamist bullshit pretending to be legit military skills, like that one wargame where a military officer used motorbike couriers, but because it was a simulation, let them travel at the speed of light because a speed wasn't listed. Are you the type of faggot who "accidentally" wears the other team's colors too, and pretends you're somehow smarter for doing so?
>>235462Kingdom Technology KG-9, RWA KG-9, Echo1 GAT - a GBB and two AEG replicas that already exist without needing to resort to what is admittedly the least retarded-looking AEG-to-AAP mag adapter I've ever seen, but still doesn't look anywhere close to a Tec-9
If you get 100+ bbs in a mag I want to take 10 bbs before I am actually "hit"
>>235532Stock TM pistols are the best. I don't know why people buy anything else. Poor?
how do you resist buying something really stupidive been trying to fight the urge for over a week now
>>235721ok just typing this out caused me to suffer some extreme episodes of boy math>only rifle i always prefer to pick in vidya>can easily afford to buy it like 10 times over and once i buy it i'll have it forever and won't need to buy it>tall enough to actually handle the very kino long versionfuck me. basically the main reason for me to not to buy it is because i have a hard time maintaining the actual sport as a hobby
>>235722of course the other reason is that i might not want to get it is because i might instead want to get the TRVE m14 for the black hawk down experience
>>235722heavy
>>235724im a big guy
>>235724>>235726though you're right that it contributes to it being slow to move around with it, which makes it less fun to play with. but i generally like heavier guns and idk if i care that much about "winning" at this point. if i pick up an airsoft gun and immediately feel like it's a toy then it kills all my enjoyment, win or lose
>>235532>>235607My bad, I didn't know this glock at the shop wasn't a VFC. Actually I still have no idea who makes the fucking thing, I'll have to find the box. It's $430 MSRP though. And actually TMs are a lot more reasonable than I thought, only like $160 or so. Apparently the Elite Force glocks are supposed to be VFC derivative though and those things are pretty fucking garbage so, who the fuck makes a gun that's good if not them? Also apparently the TMs get chewed up just from usage because the plastic slides wear out. I know to stay away from ASG and I'm not super impressed with Elite Force, who's left? Vorsks seem fun but are they expensive because they're good or expensive because airsofters will buy bullshit?
>>235727not trying to discourage you from getting it. that's just the biggest problem with it.
>>235729oh yeah i didn't take it as discouragement. though i don't view it as a problem as much as pushing the whole "larp vs actual enjoyment" thing to its very edge. but yeah i like heavier replicas and for me something like 3kg is about perfect for a rifle, but the M14 EBR is 50% more than that lolprobably even the bigger issue is the length though, assuming i go for the long version. i briefly tried a normal M14 and it was REALLY long, like "can't take it indoors" long and "scary to walk around trees with" long. i could always go for the short version but i think i would regret it due to autism
>>235728>$430That one is probably the GHK Gen 3 Glock 17 with the steel slide.
>>235731Is it any good?
>>235735Not very from what I've seen. They stopped making Glocks with steel slides and now the newest GHK Glock 45 is already a "V2"
best g33/g43 replica?
A noob hereI was offered Tokyo marui scar h for 130 bucks. This would be my first gunSeller told me the issues>Broken button on stock>Charging handle broke off>It will keep firing if you pull the trigger even when no bbs are present.>Needs new batteriesPrice is good, like 1/7 to 1/9th of the local price, but I'm worried about the issued. Also I get 5 mags to sweaten the deal. It shoots at 90 m/s, but he says it's enough for outdoor fieldsShould I do it?
>>235722>basically the main reason for me to not to buy it is because i have a hard time maintaining the actual sport as a hobbyI've been trying to get back into airshit for the past year or so but still haven't bought a gun. I absolutely hate if you want to have something competent it has to have a V2 or V3 gearbox and standard AK or AR hop ups. Don't get me started on the bullshit that is GBBs.
>>235812git gud
>>235808i really haven't played airsoft as probably most others here have but there's some wisdom i heard over a decade ago: it's better to buy a cheap, usable gun at first, screw around with it, then after that you'll have a better idea of what you want and how to take care of it. and that old gun can stay as a backup for emergencies or given to a needy child. i'd just make sure it shoots fine and the issues are just cosmetic>It will keep firing if you pull the trigger even when no bbs are present.isnt this standard for replicas that aren't EBBs or GBBs anyway?the main reason i wouldn't get it is if you really would rather have something else. if you actually want something like an MP5 because you love MP5s in games, movies, whatever then it's probably better to just save your money for that instead.>>235812oh yeah that reminds me that i'm not sure if i could even feasibly upgrade the M14 EBR if i got it. i guess the G&G M14 already shoots at 1.6ish joule anyway, so maybe i could get away with not touching the gearbox. i was hoping to get it to 2J though
>>235827actually i don't really know if i need to upgrade for bigger FPS anyway. i've stuck with stock performance thus far
>>235827>Buy a cheap, usable gunI mean, it's cheap. If buying new the only thing cheaper would be a springer shotgun.It is an Ebb.I don't have any particular gun preferences, although I would prefer something more original than m4 or ak
>>235827the only worthwhile M14 is the G&G. TM spec ones suck and have more proprietary parts and WE GBBR one is shit no matter how much money you sink into it. G&G at least takes AUG hop units unlike the TM/CYMA ones that use a proprietary garbage hop unit
>>235808I hate NGRS
>>235808I love NGRS!
>>235827I feel like the reason the common wisdom is like this is that spending more money on airsoft doesn't guarantee better quality
>>235850depends on a lot of things. Some companies charge out the ass for some replicas just because they're the only ones making them.
>>235854name 3
>>235865Most of ARES stuff
>only activity this place gets is when people shitfling about HPA/AEG/GBBSad!
>>236098recession indicatorseems anecdotal but airsoft popularity seems pretty low right now. maybe a good time to invest in used airsoft and then cash in when cheeto in chief outlaws digital media
>Sold my AK-74M>OKP-7 sights drop on Aliexpress week laterAAAHH
>>236267Now I'll look like a dumbass mounting it to my shotgun.
Extreme know nothing question, Are there any dirt cheap spring pistols out there with built-in tracer lights? I mean dirt, dirt cheap.
>>236285No, because there isn't a market for retards that want a Springer with a tracer built in.
>>236287Any other dirt cheap options?I just wanna plink squirrels off my bird feeders in the evening man.
>>236294I mean if you can find a Springer with 14mm thread you could buy a tracer for it. But sprinters are really shit. They don't reach far and poor accuracy What I'd get Is a nbb like a Mk23 cheapest is the STTI/ASG one, and then a tracer for it. Probably the cheapest and somewhat viable
i hadnt held a marui gun for like 10 years but i picked up one of their more recent ones today and was surprised to find out it didnt actually feel like a creaky plastic kinda toy and instead it was very solid (an EBB mp5)its also a bit funny that cyma used to be absolute scam shit but now is apparently quite good but still affordable. again, a lot better build quality than what i've known to experience with airshit in the past. makes me wonder if it's even worth paying for the 100% markup to get something from a dedicated build quality focused manufacturer like G&G anymore
>>236310G&G fell off hard
>>236328yeah i've been trying to unlearn my habit of mentally filtering away anything that isnt a "safe" brand from the old days. its pretty cool that you can now get a decent AEG for less than 200 even with inflation. its much easier to justify buying random guns for the fuck of iti'm now wondering how something like a G&G rifle can be twice as expensive vs a cyma equivalent. i'm sure the quality can be a bit better in some respects at least, but 2x more expensive seems kinda wild.
>old gun is busted and want to get something new>not sure what i would enjoy the most>decide to scientifically determine it by checking what gun i used the most in bf4 and bf3, figure it's going to be one of the AKs, or maybe the SKS or some other DMR >actually m249 by a wide marginwell shit
>>236374time to start lifing boyor get a good harness
>>236302>What I'd get Is a nbb like a Mk23 cheapest is the STTI/ASG onemeh, mk23 has a wierd thread, you'd have to get a tracer for just that, and I doubt it would work with anything else
>>236285>>236287There's hardly ANYTHING with a tracer built-in, much less dirt cheap. Best cheap-ass bet is to buy a cheap springer, a cheap tracer unit, then macguyver a solution to mount the tracer to the end of the pistol.
>>>236389True, but if he has a 3d printer he could print a thread adapter. But yea I forgot it's 16mm ccw>>236395Only thing I know is there are some cyma m4 and aks that has built in tracer in the hop up.
>>236382>liftingalready do but i'd expect lugging around an m249 requires a specific kind of muscle-cardio health you can only really gain by... lugging around an m249. not that lifting doesn't help. the idea of firing an m249 one-handed in a sea of AR-15s is admittedly pretty cool its always been a curious quirk of this "sport" that there are a lot of fatasses and emaciated skellingtons doing it. you'd think if you are going to spend 3 hours fucking around with airsoft maintenance that you could afford to hit the gym 3 hours a week too
>>236478>you'd think if you are going to spend 3 hours fucking around with airsoft maintenance that you could afford to hit the gym 3 hours a week tooYou'd think if you're regularly going to be running around with a toy gun then you'd get into shape at least a little bit. Then I remember how 75% of retards playing just sit on their asses the whole games or are larporators slowly moving around corners only to get dunked on by someone actually flanking.
>>236479yeah lol. but to be fair, i would agree the larping part is more fun than the actual sport>get dunked on by someone actually flankingi had to make an effort not to flank as much because it started feeling a bit cheesy to always just walk behind the enemy line and one tap everyone on my way through
>>236480>i would agree the larping part is more fun than the actual sportDepends. When I still played I liked shitting on mall ninjas with their gay heavy loadouts trying to larporate with my basic bitch M16A1 and 80s GI loadout by being extremely mobile.>>236480>i had to make an effort not to flank as much because it started feeling a bit cheesy to always just walk behind the enemy line and one tap everyone on my way throughThat reminds me I got accused several times of cheating by not starting from our spawn but instead supposedly several meters in front of our spawn to get to the center of the field faster. Fat fucks on the other teams could not comprehend there's a faster movement speed than an awkward waddle.
>>236481>gay heavy loadoutsyeah i can't really get into the mindset of wearing a metal helmet or a plate carrier in airsoft. for some reason it just rubs me the wrong way, even though i love stuff like real steel type guns and GBBs. something more "functional" like pic related makes more sense to me. i do also appreciate a deliberate setup like wearing vietnam GI gear. maybe it's because it's actually closer to actual historical RP rather than just putting on random tacticool shit for your own donut steel mall ninja setup
>>236483>i can't really get into the mindset of wearing a metal helmet or a plate carrier in airsoftI don't understand it either. I don't find it fun nor does it have any functional merit to itself.This was my setup. Ended up with HPGay because I wanted something reliable and versatile for different fields. Other than that it was just lighweight tropical BDU, ALICE webbing with a buttpack and the HPA tank in it and a plastic "training" PASGT. Probably the most fun loadout I had.
>>236484>classic m16 with no tacticool shit on ithell yeahprobably the only AR-15 i would want to get at this point would be something like that, except with the grenade launcher handguard setup
>>236483>carries 16 AEG mags for gay pray and sprayWhat a fag
>>236499surely they're all realcaps
>>236484>80s US kit>fucks it up with fag mask, goggles and hoseWhy even bother?
>>236501Never met a single AEG user that used realcaps except for NGRS users
>>236485I was thinking about a GBB VFC M16A2 if I were to get back to playing but I'm still not convinced about GBBRs.>>236499>>236502Stay mad and poor samefag.
>>236508>GBB VFC M16A2 if I were to get back to playing yeah i've thought about GBBs a lot more recently and i've thought about making the switch myself. i'm curious if it would substantially change how it feels to play the game (for the better)imo GBBs are also fun enough that i've thought about getting one for plinking for trips and stuff. it's not too hard to get a real gun here but i think i'd rather hand a GBBR to a dumbfuck friend than a real rifle i think airsoft is just not very fun to play unless i love spending time with my gear. just picking up a random plastic AEG and spraying at stuff does basically nothing for me in itself
>>236513>i'm curious if it would substantially change how it feels to play the game (for the better)If you like the larp aspect then probably. If you want to frag fat or bony losers like I do then probably not. Magazine capacity is a really big limiting factor as is cooldown and temperature tolerance.>just picking up a random plastic AEG and spraying at stuff does basically nothing for me in itselfOh yeah absolutely. I especially hate the sewing machine noise and lack of feedback. HPGay also has no feedback but in comparison "it just werks" and you can also actually suppress HPA guns. AEGs are a good entry way into airshit to see if it's actually something you like but if you want fun you pick GBBs and if you want efficiency you go with HPGay. Now of course you can also have a very good AEG on par with an HPA gun but HPA is still less finnicky and less prone to breaking than even the best AEG.
>>236508>can't afford a good gbbr so he resorts to using HPALol, lmao
>>236502I feel like the only reason you are here is so you can use your no no words and be contrarian for the sake of it. You type like the average pol fag, now go back to your containment board, and let the adults talk about our toy guns
>>236519What's here to discuss here? Why even bother doing an impression if you'll farb it up? Just stick to doing regular normalfag airshit. Do it right or don't do it at all
>>236522He was talking about his setup and all you contributed was hurr durr hpa gay like a 12 year old. Did your parents not love you enough for you to be the way you are?
>>236523It is gay. Learn to read, retard. Do it right or don't do it at all
you claim to run an authentic 80s GI ensemble, yet your gun fires 6mm bbs instead of 5.56mm NATO. curious!
>>236527>le it's just airsoft xDKys, normalniggers should have been gatekept
>>236526This nigga definitely stands alone in the staging area because nobody wants to talk to him. There's no way you live any kind of meaningful live being this bitter
>all the fields in my new area have a 1.4J limit or lesssurprising but quite based actually
>>236612For what class?
>>236374If you've got the funds to ball out, VFC 249 + HPA rig is apparently a super-fun machinegunner setupEven if you're just running the tapedeck mags and not converting it to feed from a bottom-mounted box, it's still solidly effective according to those I've talked to who run the things, both because the tapedeck mags are a very lightweight way to carry a lot of ammo and because the noise a blowback machinegun puts out intimidates people a lot more effectively than the usual whir-popping of an AEGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwj6QbtjU4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_AHHP_uhac>>236522(You) are a member of the saddest airsoft demographic of all: retards who think farb kit actually matters outside of hardcore re-enactment eventsWe're playing BB wars, who the fuck cares, if some kid at a pick-up game tossed a modern repro Chicom and rice hat over his modern civvie clothes while wielding an AKS-74U and said he was LARPing as a Viet Cong I'd be like "haha yeah you are go get 'em tiger" not "KILL YOURSELF FOR NOT WEARING GLORIOUS HISTORICALLY-ACCURATE VIETNAM ATTIRE AND WIELDING REPLICA OF HISTORICAL TYPE 56 RIFLE YOU BRING DISHONOR ON FAMILY"take your attention and fuck off back to the moldy basement you crawled out of
>>236637Make me, nigger. I'll shit on normalfags for not putting any effort in doing anything
>>236612For all classes? Means the different roles don't really serve a purpose, but if it fits the terrain then whatever. I like when fields require you to use a sidearm within a certain distance.
>>235834This is from like 5 days ago but I thought the G&G one has more proprietary parts? I'd like to get the G&G one but the only one I can find costs twice as much as the Cyma (the equivalent of 600 bucks vs the Cyma being 300)I don't really know how substantial the difference is between the two, but at that price difference I could get the Cyma one and have another 300 set aside for replacement parts. And I figured it'd be easier to find parts for the Cyma one too since it's a TM clone and a more popular brand.I'd like to get the best version of the gun I can find but at that kind of price increase vs the Cyma it had better be next to perfectAlso it kinda pisses me off how the two G&G options are "too short" and "too long" lol
>>236646There's no such thing as paying once in airsoft. No matter how much you spend you'll have to buy something anywayAlso the only proper M14 is with a 24" barrel
>>236649Yeah that's what I was getting at. It feels pretty stupid to pay an extra 300 dollars and still end up with something that has a chance of having various issues and breaking parts that I would need spend extra money to fix. And finding G&G parts seems difficult.I guess really it would come down to whether the whole Cyma gun is fundamentally made of such shit pot metal compared to the G&G one that it would be worth spending double price for it. I can't find either locally but I was thinking of ordering both and documenting the differences side by side>Also the only proper M14 is with a 24" barrelI think the gun that these airsoft replicas are trying to copy was the original Mk 14 Mod 0, which was specifically given a 18" barrel for muh high speed low drag SOCOM operations. But I think the G&G short one is even shorter than that
>>236649>>236652>Also the only proper M14 is with a 24" barrelOh nevermind I think you were saying that only the classic M14 with the wooden stock and Fortunate Son playing in the background is worth considering
>>236638You don't even play airshit
>>236728Stop giving that faggot (you)s just ignore his bait
>>236484Love it, I miss my TM M16A2. I may have to get another long boi M16 soooon
>>236801I loved the palpable seethe from speedniggers and other losers who thought you can't go into buildings and do well with this musket.
How come there are no airsoft USP Experts or Elites? Seems like a no-brainer to me.I don't think anyone's making any decent GBB Tacticals at this point either for that matter. The one KWA made is discontinued and the crappy Umarex one isn't even really a Tactical outside of the cheap threaded barrel.
>>236857Nobody cares. All I want is a Match. Easiest W for Marui and they made some Resident Evil faggot shit USP
>>236861Why not the KWA Match?
>>236865KWA sucks
>Mail my gun and charger in advance for the airsoft game>Arrive by plane and set up charger>Charger is completely deadRIP Imax B6AC 06.06.2012-07.05.25
>>236637>If you've got the funds to ball out, VFC 249 + HPA rig is apparently a super-fun machinegunner setupthat actually sounds very enticing. i love GBBs but the limited capacity and fucking around with the gas sucks when everyone else has AEGs. i could also hide the air line under an ammo belt loli assume the whole ordeal would cost zillions though lol
>>236878>i love GBBs but the limited capacity and fucking around with the gas sucks when everyone else has AEGs. to clarify i mean i've been wary of fielding a GBBR as a main gun vs AEGs, but a HPA'd GBB machine gun seems like it would be fairly well matched with them
>>236857The literal only USP Tactical available that isn't KWC's bullshit and isn't just a pricey, hard-to-find slide kit for a TM at the moment is SRC's TM-clone USP Tactical; it's solid, kicks like a mule, and I love it despite it lacking proper trades, but sourcing replacement parts for the TM USP9 system beyond slides and barrels is a fucking nightmare (the only sources of replacement triggers on the market are like, one or two Canadian retailers who sell SRC units, for example)I hope someone eventually gets around to it, but it's been over half a decade since the TM USP dropped and all I ever see are slides and barrels so it might just be a case where your only real option is to buy SRC triggers if something causes it to snap>>236878>>236881Videos I linked cover it; it's pricey (XE recommendation of the gun + three 3-packs of cassette mags runs $850USD at time of upload, not including the one-time cost of getting an HPA tank, reg, line and fittings to attach to the thing if you don't have them already), and it requires a smidge of work (chief among them being something to slow BBs down before they're fired out of the barrel, since a problem typical of some open-bolts is that the BB never stops moving, causing lots of unwanted spin on the BB in random directions; the second video has the superior solution of slightly modifying the metal collar of a Maple Leaf bucking to be a smidge tighter, IIRC), but it seems like an absolute blast and I'd probably invest in it myself if I had a bit more cash to throw around
>>236869How come?
>>236812The musket is a bona fide classic. I was at an indoor arena yesterday and saw a azn dude with an AK74 full size/side folder stock shreddin it up.
>>236952Always brings a smile to me seeing a kid trying to pack his full length M16 into his backpack in an inconspicuous way.
the japanese are doing all kinds of cool gbb mods like stronger trigger springs, mag limiters, weight mods. I wish they compiled all their cool mods and hacks into one place I could read them.
>>236941not a reputable brand. Everything they make has a better alternative made by another company
Anyone here have a WE V3? I was considering the xm177. Yes I know VFC makes one but it costs double for both gun and mags, and parts are easier to get for WE. I just want to know if the V3 version is gud or not
>>237035Just get the VFC, man. You'll regret buying the WE
>>237043Why? It's the same on leddit. Someone ask about x they say it's bad buy y, you ask them have you ever tried or owned x? And the answer is always no. It's just parroting something because another person said it
>>237035>>237047i agree people should disclose if they actually have real experience with something. that said it's very rare to find a single person that has bought a specific gun that's known to have a bad reputation, so people just repeat what they've heardsometimes you can order guns from both manufacturers to see which one you like more (like in terms of build quality and so on), and return whichever one you don't, but i don't know if you could really meaningfully test a gas gun and still return it
>>237035for the nothing it's worth the bolt change looks good but the mag change seems like a good direction. >>237054pic related
>>237047Because WE is a low-tier brand. The only thing I'd recommend from them is the Desert Eagle. Had 3 of their ARs in the past and all had problems. The design itself is flawed. The only thing addressed in the V3 is the bolt catch mechanism which is basically the TM Zet system but made by WE with shittier materials. The trigger group is the same shit that breaks. You might think that it's JuSt aS gOoD but it isn't. You'll end up buying RA tech "upgrade" parts and end up getting fed up with it and selling it for a low price because no one wants a used WE AR.
>>237058I have a WE Apache I quite like it desu, but yea I heard a lot of mixed things about WE which is why I asked but I can't imagine it is as bad as something like Golden Eagle WA clones
>>237058I also had a WE M16A3 which killed it's hammer twice over the span of something like 500 BBs. Then I bought a RA Tech steel trigger and BCG and it completely fucked itself to death so I sold it for peanuts.
>>236634>>236642all classes. all these arenas were indoors or close range outdoors. i did find some weapon class based arenas though they are rarer and farther away. i mainly thought it was cool to find so many arenas and events with a low FPS limit because it means i can buy and field whatever gun i feel like and not get caught up in optimizing its performance
>magazines are proprietary, cost 100% more and apparently made in quantities of 5 so they aren't available anyway outside taiwan or some shit>muzzle is a load bearing component and also proprietary, and it requires a 40 dollar replacement component to so it accepts different standardized parts (which they could have just as well shipped in lieu of the original component that doesn't)i can understand marking up your guns by like 50% for the fuck of it but why does G&G need to also inconvenience their customers with this nickle and dime shit constantly
>>237035VFC V3 is far superior in virtually every way, from a more robust set of internals to much better (and cheap) magazinesVFC XM + NPAS + maybe inner barrel and bucking is your best bet, costs a smidge more up front but the performance benefits mean you're ultimately going to be spending less than trying to bring a WE anywhere near similar performance
>>237203Maybe VFC ARs are nicer than WEs, but VFC in general get too much credit. They still make wonky designs out of chinesium, I have two VFC pistols, the USP, which I had to modify to stop it ejecting the barrel out the front of the slide, and the PPK/S which is poorly designed and executed. But they both look the fucking tits, and I think a lot of people give them a pass just for looking good.
>thread is 3 months oldThis place is dead
>>237246Thank gookmoot for deleting /asp/
Hey CHUDS,If you choose to show up at an event in full SS kit, understand that you're not just playing dress-up—you’re painting a giant target on your back and everyone’s trigger finger gets a little itchier. Nobody cares if you think it’s “historical” or “just for aesthetics,” because the second you goose-step into spawn with your sad little feldgrau cosplay and bone-white skull patches, you become open season. You will get overshot. You will get mag-dumped. And no, nobody’s going to “check the rules” or feel bad when you’re flopping on the ground screaming about calling your hit. This community is done pretending to tolerate fascist LARPing under the paper-thin excuse of “reenactment.” You wanted to be the bad guy, so don’t cry when everyone else decides to LARP as the partisans, the Soviets, the Free French, or your ancestors’ worst nightmares. If you get lit up before you even reach cover, that’s not a violation—that’s performance art.
>>237257Sick bait post bro. Seriously though redditors will be redditors. There's a team of rusfor larpers with Z patches and st George ribbons near me and nobody gives a shit.reddit isn't real life
>>237246I prefer the slowness. there's only one retard autist so far.
>>237246what happened to airsoft
>>237257>zigger redditor complains about ebil nazisNazis did nothing wrong and anglos fought the wrong side
>>237258I've seen people talking shit about unironic commie larpers more than the rare muh nahtzee getup here. This was something around 2019 so way before the second banan chimpout.
>>237265nothing it's just that nobody knows this board exists
im continuously taken aback by how many of these airsoft youtubers are obese or at least fat. who you larping, paul blart??
>>237258appreciate it, thank chat nggt. As for the content of the post yeah, this faggotry has been circulating on r/acj for a year now with troons also >>237268Preach. I grew up around Slavic immigrants(Russians and Ukrainians mostly) and they have by far been behaving like total niggers, except maybe Belarusians but I didn't see that many.>>237269Things haven't changed in the slightest. Went to a local field and there were a queer faggot and a ratnik kit kid playing on the same team.
blog time. i'm this anon >>235033>>237191i've been trying to figure out this purchase since it's been difficult to even find the damn thing anywhere in my area, even in neighboring countries here in yurop, and even when it's in stock it's been like 600 euros either way. and i also wasn't able to find ANY magazines for it. i was basically planning on fixing up my old AEG and just playing around with it for a while before i decide what i want to do, like maybe all i wanna do is buy some GBBs and fuck around with it, and then go play some CQB matches with it or something.anyway then some redditor pointed out a website that lets you scan the entire EU area for stuff, and i found the G&G EBR at like 30% of its usual price, and the same place also has some (overpriced) magazines for it. so i feel like i have to buy it now. i also had some decision paralysis regarding whether to get the long or the short version, but they only have the long version so i guess i had that decision made for me. oh well, the long one looks cooler anywaywish me luck bros imma send it. hopefully i wont totally play 1 game with it and give up
>>237322oh yeah and i do have 1 question regarding this: is it at all suspicious that they might have a gun on such a sale? like if 3 people already returned it due to bad performance or something? it's a reputable shop though. not that i cant return it but itd be annoying
>>237257I love snappy dressers. But he's not dressed that snappily,
>>237217Won't get any disagreements from me on their pistols - it seems they can't make one of those without it needing some work, Glocks notwithstanding - but their rifles are significantly better on average and I haven't really heard any similar complaints about even the cheapest ARs (ex. their Olympic Arms two-mag 7" SBR, which is apparently regarded as one of the best ways to get into GBBRs)>>237257vidrel is all there really is to say on photo and comments alike>>237322What store is it? Odd are you can probably look up if other people have used said store and find out if it's a scam through that, which I'd do if I saw a store conveniently offering a significant discount on something I'm looking for
>>237337powair6. i see a lot of people vouching for them though. i doubt it's a straight up scam but i worry it's on clearance for a reason, such as returns due to bad QC or something. i expect i'll need to at least chrono it and open it up to confirm it's not messed up in any weird way.i'm still contemplating whether to even bother picking up the midcap magazines or not. charging 150 euros for 4 AEG magazines is some wacky shit. you can almost pick up a cyma M14 for the price of 4 metal boxes with a spring in them lol
>>237322>website that lets you scan the entire EU area for stuffI use this to find shit https://www.airsoftdb.com/Although I have several sites bookmarked and often looke manually through them to check what they currently have.>>237338>powair6It's fine. I've heard people ordered stuff from there and didn't have any issues.>charging 150 euros for 4 AEG magazinesG&G M14 magazines are retarded expensive. t. know because I wanted to build an M21 back when.
>>237345>G&G M14 magazines are retarded expensive. t. know because I wanted to build an M21 back when.yeah i ended up ordering just 2 for now, mainly so i don't have to rely (totally) on the hicap. i'll just have to pull out my speedloader a lot i guessstill not a 100% sure if the long barrel will work out. hopefully it doesn't make peeking feel like shit and or make it difficult to traverse certain areas. the short version looked more manageable for running around. i think i just got pissed off by it using the wrong flash hider (even cyma got it right baka). oh well. not every gun has to do CQBi did recently pick up a long m14 again for the first time in a long time, and it was much shorter than i remembered. i expected it to be much longer based on the videos i've been watching recently. it wasn't short obviously but like "oh yeah this seems about right". so maybe there's hope for me yet
>>237345>https://www.airsoftdb.com/also yeah thats what i used, incredibly useful website
>>237346>still not a 100% sure if the long barrel will work outI'm this guy>>236484It's perfectly doable albeit inconvenient at times. I still believe what matters more is how you play although a convenient gun is a good power multiplier.
>>237348yeah i have a rifle with a similar length to an M16 (a long LR300) and i don't think i have really felt like the barrel gets in the way of playing. the bigger problem was the stock getting in the way, so i often played with it folded. thankfully the EBR has an adjustable stockhonestly i really think i've recently gotten used to thinking that these guns are much bigger because i see them next to short skinny asian dudes on youtube. meanwhile your m16 doesn't look too long for you at all, evidently because you're a decently tall and broad dude
>>237359>the bigger problem was the stock getting in the wayJust short stock it.>you're a decently tall and broad dudeNot at all. I'm the average 180 cm and that particular BDU was a bit baggy on me.
>>237362>Just short stock it.i guess i could but i think the LR300 is too based in its unaltered form. really it's not that annoying, it's just easier to spray with it when the stock is folded>Not at all. I'm the average 180 cm and that particular BDU was a bit baggy on methe whole look looks good. kinda getting a post-nuclear-exchange mopp suit vibe with the mask onanyway i was going to still order the short version just to have some point of comparison. i briefly mocked up the long version and it really is pushing the edge of what feels sensible. it's like a good 25% longer than a full length assault rifle lol
>>237362>>237389I bought an LR300 (A&K) with the long barrel, I also ordered the short barrel just in case, but I've never needed it, with the stock retracted it's never been an issue. I also have a full length M14, it is long, but I think it's only unwieldy for people under 6'. Longer guns just look cooler anyway.
>>237424yeah full length assault rifle length feels exactly right for me too, and i don't feel the need to go shorter than that. but every inch after that has more of an effect on the ergonomics >Longer guns just look cooler anyway.agreed though admittedly it's handy to be able to add and remove length (and weight) on the go. the short EBR with a suppressor looks pretty good too, even if it's a bit generic tacticoolapparently attaching a suppressor to a short G&G M14 with its meme flash hider is a pain though
>>237436forgot my attachment
>>237257I know this is bait but whining about being overshot is the stupidest fucking thing. You can barely fucking feel or hear it sometimes, I'd rather get shot 18 times than not call a hit because I couldn't feel it. I was playing last Sunday and I was regularly confusing raindrops with hits and calling myself out just in case
>>237424>be 5'9>buy parts for my WE xm177>turn that bitch into an m16 with a wooden stock and wooden a1 handguard>the setup is all of a sudden way more ergonomic and easier to wield while being heaviernigga i cant into logic anymore. always wanted an m16, had i known beforehand i would have just gotten the m16 right away>>237035i got the we xm177 v2. i got some ra tech shit in my trigger unit. that mf runs like a fickle ass woman. i love that bitch like you wouldnt believe but it just does shit like drop the hammer and not run untill you fondle it in a certain way, bitch does that often. the barrel wobble is fucking horrendeus, i got it in check after 2 bad games but man that mf hoe is time consuming. i even got the lube explosive enterprises recommended and she still chooses when to run clean and nice and when to just let me hanging. On the upside she doesnt eat bbs like the dirty whore that is my mp7, she only bursts dogshit cheap bbs, the mid priced stuff runs almost flawlesly. that being said, pic very fucking related. also its the rifle i can afford, so i dont have this shit lingering in the back of my mind like, oh noooooes 800€ setup i better be careful fuck no, none of that. i run my shit all the way aggressive. pardon my dogshit english but there is a lot of emotion involved here. Tldr just get one if you want see how satisfied you are and if you feel like ditching your gun just sell that shit used, you absolutly won't regret the cost of "renting" after sale for the experience alone. Besides i didnt see anybody not bitch about vfcs new batch of 416s, them hoes be acting up too
>>237518>nigga i cant into logic anymore. always wanted an m16, had i known beforehand i would have just gotten the m16 right awayperhaps there is some hidden ergonomic boon from wielding a gun you really really likethe only other reason i can think of is that your mind expects the gun to be heavier because it has wooden furniture, and you can exert more force on maneuvering it because wood feels stronger and more stable
>>237521you know what that might just be it. the way my m16 looks like just tickles some part of my brain without fail and its just right when i grab it. The wood part is spot on, i can gorilla grip things and the fucking wood is just immune to dont fondle me wrong. i suppose Dakka is a thing. funnily enough, i got myself one of those somewhat ugly drum mags and those mfs are heavy, still, shit looks right feels right, it just does it for me. I wish i had tagin money. ffs i want that predator m16 with the launcher handguard whatever its called and have a fucking actually usefull nade launcher
does anyone have a good experience getting a <1J gun that can pull double duty as a CQB primary and as a backup weapon for a gun that fires too hot, or is it going to be like a worst of both worlds kinda thing? i have a GBB pistol but i feel pretty limited whenever i try to rely on itthe cyma p90 would be very cheap, quite light and has good capacity. but i hear it's pretty awful trying to carry it as a backup. i assume i'd need some really specialized macgyvered carry pouch for it, because i wager it'd swing around too much if it wasn't directly attached to my torso in some way.i hear mp5ks are pretty decent for this but i just don't like them visually
>>237557>i have a GBB pistol actually turns out it is such an antique that mag availability is poo poo, and it would also need to be fixed, and so it seems i need to replace it anyway. but honestly not too excited about getting another GBB pistolthe vfc mp7 would be awesome but the mags oohhh the mags
>>237578hahaha you want another retarded ass fact about the vfc mp7 ? the mag catch hooks wear off after a couple hundred uses to the point where recoil eill just drop the mag from the naturally occuring space between mag and grip. happened to mine. Unless you know how to weld and diy mags or are willing to go the hpa route getting either the funky looking drum/ gay ass half mag that takes aeg mp5 mags at the bottom dont fuck with it. i fucking wish it was as good as it should have been but it not... sometimes it be like that
>>237557>>237578Some options for all three, with parts and mags commonality in mindRaw practicality over form factor: AAP optionally with a stock, uses TM-spec Glock mags, is cheap, plenty of external and internal aftermarket to fuck with, also plenty of printed shit if you want to do anything from pretend you have a real submachinegun to making the externals necessary to run a gun from HaloA practical gun that looks a lot more normal: TM-spec Glock, also with the option of a stock or perhaps a low-profile carbine kit (ex. USW), also (obviously) uses TM-spec Glock mags and has plenty of aftermarket to fuck withThere's also a few routes into an FMG9 if you want a compact SMG using TM Glock internals and mags, but they're expensive and/or not clear on whether or not they're any good - easiest route I can think of is that Poseidon and Acetech recently collaborated to produce a plug-and-play FMG9 that doesn't require a donor gun and comes with an integral tracer unit, but I don't know enough about Poseidon to judge whether or not their Glocks are any good so probably look up some reviews and ask around before pulling the trigger, and after that you'd still benefit heavily from buying some real irons or a red dot since the FMG carryhandle has some very low-profile, short sights in it
>>237670meant to say "options for both secondary weapon and backup 1J subgun" but I did not get enough sleep last night
>>237456>imagine dying because it starts rainingElphaba, plz...
>>237557I might get this eventually, just because I like dicking around with my P90.
>>237557I got an MP7 leg holster but it proved to be just too much bulk for me to carry around on games for the little CQB we do here.
>>237670seconding get an aap01, a glock, or and adding a hicapa. someone sold me one with a bunch of glue spread through the internals and I cleaned it up, bent the leaf spring a bit and its great.
>>237706Meat, but it would be better to sling it, that thing is waiting to get clattered on a doorway or tree.
>>237709*Neat.Meat doesn't sound good at all.
just got a VFC MP7 v2I love it so much, the form factor is perfect
Broight a used TM scarSince the battery that came with it was swollen I wanted to get a new oneWhen I went to the shop I was advized to only buy tm's own 7.2 batteries only and that 7.4 LiPo will damage itProblem is, getting one here is next to impossible. Should I just buy the regular ones?
>>237706looking at this makes me think the p90 is a bit of an ordeal to have as a backup lmao. still kinda want one as a primary though>>237707yeah i figured about the same. maybe an MP9 sized gun could fit more comfortably in a belt holster, like pic related>>237708>>237670yeah it'd make the most sense to get a hicapa or a glock whenever i find a good deal for one. but honestly the main difficulty i have with them is that i don't really *like* pistols or carbine kits, so i end up neglecting them. on a lizard brain level i really would rather get a vorsk vmp 1 as a "pistol" even if it's inferior in just about every way, just because it tickles at my brain
>>237518>>237521>>237522This isn't some profound 4D chess. Full length M16 is just balanced differently than an XM177.
Would it be weird to keep a journal for a gun?Basically my thought is that I'm a bit of an OCD freak and can't stand buying used guns because I don't know how much mileage they really have or how well their owners handled them. So I was thinking I'd get a notebook and jot down every single time I play a game with a gun, about how many BBs I fired with it in that game, any notes, and so on. I thought it'd be kind of a fun mindfuck but also kinda reassuring to buyers if I ever sell the gun (I probably will, eventually)
>>237346coming back to my blogi was thinking i could buy a replacement front assembly for the G&G SOC16 and use those parts to configure my EBR to be shorter when i need it to be, such as for indoors games. i thought it'd be dumb and expensive at first, but i got the long version on a sale for 150 cheaper than the long version so it'd be about the same price, and i'd have some spare parts to play with too.https://www.airsoftgi.com/product/GG-SOC16-Front-Set-for-GG-M14-Only-3490/it's out of stock here but some german site is selling it for 160ishthat said all the proof i have for it being compatible with the EBR is some redditor going "trust me bro". but i have no reason to think it isn't compatible (since G&G seemingly 1:1 reused the outer barrel from the soc16 for the ebr). long shot to ask here but any idea if that redditor could be lying?
>>237772oh yeah just realized the EBR's (supposedly) better quality inner barrel would protrude out of the shorter front housing. this set comes with a fitting inner barrel but idk how good it is. it may not be as great a deal as i thought it was
Anyone know what the common springer buckings are? The one I need is about the length of a VSR-10 bucking but it doesn't have the tab on the outside; just a guiding ridge inside and a two pronged hop nub on the top. It's for some chink piece of shit Remington clone
Packing for my first vacation in over a decade that doesn't involve attending an airsoft game.>Speed loader? No, don't need to pack that..>Magazines? Nah.>Anti-fog spray? Probably not.
>>237557Coming off this guy, can you put a CQB spring in a Krink to get it to shoot under a joule? Just want something I don't have to worry about MED with
>>237985I'm assuming you're talking about an AEG with a gearbox. if so then yeah it's a common thing people do and if you don't break shit or lose springs opening it you can do it too.
>>238008Anything really; I've done springs with more power before but only on v2 gearboxes and never anything with less, didn't know if ak gearboxes were different
Talk me out of it
>>238075it's a plastic pos
>>238076Is it a POS because it's plastic or is it a POS that's also plastic?
>>238029slightly different but not anything you would be surprised by. it's easier to swap to lower springs and put the gb back together.
>>238078True, it offers way less resistance, especially if it doesn't have a quick change piston
retard heretheoretically, can you light the gas that comes out of GBBs on fire for cool muzzle flash effects instead of using a flash unit?can't fit flash units inside a flash hider after all.too dangerous?
>>238083nvm as soon as I ask this I find this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sa7CerN8FY
>>238084hey this is the magpul g&p m4 gas blowback
>>238085will you try to light the muzzle on fire?
>>238085
Bought one of these things for a good deal today. Gonna probably end up getting one of those MI buffer tube adapters. What stock should I put on it? Should I just be unimaginative and use an SL-K?
>>238091Also I figured out what was going on with this thing; the Vityaz/KP-9 has that extended magwell which is why the LCT mags are the way they are; this thing is based on a theoretical 9mm AK with no magwell extension. Maybe a 9mm Draco?
>>238083You can, in theory, but the heat of the burning propane's potentially going to end up causing some serious issues with the brass and rubber that are your inner barrel and hop bucking, among the many other potential issues with blasting flaming propane with your shots - better off grabbing one of those low-profile flash/tracer units that kinda resemble a linear comp>>238104If memory serves it's roughly based on a Chiappa PAK-9, but with a lower profile handguard and thus without a magwell adapter installed; a unique specimen to say the least, and I'd imagine one could readily convert it to ARP9 mags to bring it closer to the look, if one isn't a fan of the 9x19 rock-and-locks
>>238109I actually really like the ak style paddle release mags, especially doing the push reload. It's just, 40 round mid caps that you can't find anymore and they're $30 a piece. Sheesh
Who makes the best metal and blowback USP replicas?
>>238146VFC
im very liking this so farvfc ump9 v2it had knocker reset cam assembled backwards so anyone get the gun should check if theirs installed correctly
>>238091>tried an rfg on this thing>felt great but as I was afraid of, you can't take the mag out with it mounted Gonna have to get a fucking small boy huh. Hopefully a BCM is small enough
>>238146Probably VFC, but best is a relative term. If your budget can stretch, just get a TM and put a Guarder slide on it. VFC pistols aren't great in general.
i bought a wicked jacket i wish to wear for airsoft but its not stretchy at all, so it tugs against my shoulders if i try to extend my arms too much. fucking sucks. i guess i could go 1 size up but then i wouldnt look as cute in it
>>238188Post striped battle stockings
>>238190sorry i have still not been able to find any with integrated kneepads
i spent half a grand on an airsoft gun and these dumbass frenchies fucked up the shipping and put it on the wrong plane. not only did they send it to the wrong country, they also sent it to god damn spain. rip
Got my new cap
>>238228oh my fucking goooooodi'm going crazy and i feel as though i gotta buy another gun to hold me over since there's no telling how long these guys' siesta will last>just use the guns you already haveno
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>>238246oops>looks cool but apparently fucking sucks because AEP internalscouldn't they find a way to shove a v3 gearbox in there somehow
>>238237If you haven't ran a springer only day recently, you should
>>238286funny i contemplated ordering a TM springer revolver since i was looking for something in the 1J range. but they go for like 200 for some reason. i feel like i may as well pick up a cyma platinum mp5k and maybe molle attach it to my chest so it can disintegrate whats left of my knees and lungs when i run it alongside my 12 pound rifle
Gonna play my first 48h weekend next month, any advice, I'm going with an AEG
>>238299Charge your battery beforehandKeep your goggles on while on the field and barrel blocker on while offBe respectful Try to get loaded in a reasonable timeframe between games. If you're unsure if you got hit call yourselfShoot the guy until he calls his; if you think you hit him you probably didn't. Your BBs can get blocked by a leaf.Basic fire and movement tactics do wonders. One guy shoots while the other guy moves up. That guy then shoots so his buddy can move up to where he is, etc. Oftentimes you can move after you get a guy's head back in cover for a moment. Oftentimes it helps to take it slow and get a lay of the land.
>>238299Oh for overnight stuff mb.Try not to get wet. People are a lot less cognisant than you'd think at night, but this includes you. For sleeping outdoors there's tons of good stuff about camping and whatnot, but biggest thing is make sure wherever you pitch a tent or whatever is clear of shit. Don't pitch in a depression. Don't leave open food in your tent.
>>238321id just sleep in my car desu
i think i want to get a cyma platinum mp5, mainly because>cheap and no hassle due to AEG>metal construction>extendable stock (even if i like folding stocks aesthetically more, i must admit they suck to use)>lots of rail systems, can detach handguard and attach optics easily, etc. etc. (very important)i haven't decided if i want to get the mp5 or the mp5k thoughshort >can be both a primary and maybe a sidearm with a really good chest/hip attachment system>can be made longer with a suppressor if needed>could do some silly shit with it because it's so small, fire it one handed and stufflong>probably a bit more ergonomic for actual shooting>25% more length but 100% longer inner barrel>looks a bit cooler>not *too* much heavier or longer than the mp5k, could probably still run it as a comically large MED secondary still>can actually get it for a bit cheaperi was leaning towards the short version but i see some benefit to the long one too
>>238337>can detach handguardi meant foregrip but im retarded
>>238337>no hassle due to aegI know the thread is huge on GBBRs but if AEGs are considered no hassle in comparison how fucking unreliable are those things?Anyway mostly depends on your field and use case I imagine. If the short one lets you stay in a certain MED bracket get that one. If you need more range get more inner barrel. Or just go with what you think looks cooler like the long one
>>238340>how fucking unreliable are those thingscould be very if you have a shitty gbbr and you're not inclined to improve the system yourself. some design decisions are just stupid and there's not much you can do.
>>238342I was thinking of getting one of those Novritsch 10/22s because the idea of a .22 airsoft gun just tickles me pink for some reason. How's that system?
>>238342Nta but every WE gbbr i have seen in the field falls apart and kwa are always dumping gas or temp sensitive.Coworker I am trying to get into it wants an aug gbbr kwa but i have no idea if thats aweful
>>238344I have no idea sorry, though the 10/22 gbbs are cool to see on the field.>>238345WE is like a honda civic 20 years ago. affordable but with a retarded bolt catch in the v2. the v3 looks like it fixes this.
>>238340>I know the thread is huge on GBBRs but if AEGs are considered no hassle in comparison how fucking unreliable are those things?i was mostly thinking about how you can pick up a cheap AEG, pick up some compatible mags for next to nothing, then throw in a battery and it's pretty much always there when you need to hold down the trigger on someoneGBBRs are fun but i feel like you really need to have unlimited love (and funds) for whatever you end up getting so you can handle maintaining the gun and all its leaky mags. like i think you have to be ok with dropping an entire gun's worth of money into mags (that routinely break and malfunction btw) and still have less capacity than a 25 dollar hicap for an AEG. for me personally i could not get a GBB MP5 because i don't love MP5s enough to tolerate the typical GBBR humiliation ritual for one
>>238347>that routinely break and malfunction btw>leaky mags>>238342
>>238347stfu, poorfag
>>238346How are the aug gbbrs that exist and if I personally moved to a gbbr ak what versions are easy to work with?
>>238344Get the VMP-2 instead.>>238347I have a WE MP5 I just use it with a drum. It's fun>>238351GHK Aug is good from what I've heard. Like it's the only good thing GHK can make these daysOn AK. Only thing worth getting is a VFC. There is TM but the akm is plastic and the AKx is retarded expensive. Watch the explosive enterprises video on the VFC AK
>>238230>sourgrapes.jpg
>>238340>Anyway mostly depends on your field and use case I imagine. If the short one lets you stay in a certain MED bracket get that one. i would use both the same way, for lower joule events and indoors. that said i would love use the short mp5 as a sidearm for its lower MED, because i really don't like using pistols for that. but if it turns out strapping 6 pounds of pot metal to my hip actually sucks, then i would prefer the long one for primary use i guess. i touched it on my post but i kinda wanna try running the long one as a sidearm for dumb reasons (to mimic pic related). i have this vague idea of attaching it to my hip but also guide it to my thigh so that the weight is on my hip but it doesn't knock around when i walki think i just gotta order both and return whichever doesn't feel right
>>238334Pretty sure MSW-style events outright forbid leaving the event grounds until it's over (with doing so being taken as you leaving the event entirely with no opportunity for re-entry), which is why camping equipment is listed as vital in the TACSOP>>238344Nov's 10/22 is an off-spec clone of the KJW KC02 with a myriad of issues, either get a KC02 + some upgrade parts (Rogueworx is best) or ASG's Hera Arms H-22 (which is pre-upgraded, comes with a better stock, and is still compatible with Rogueworx)>>238351GHK AUG is best on that front for being GHK's best design outright, but if you're moving to AKs, TMs are solid, but VFC's AK-74M is by far the better option if you can source one and aren't specifically wanting an AKM; mags hold an insane amount of gas, gun uses that gas extremely efficiently (other guy mentioning the XE video on it is right, semi-auto firing test hit 420-430 rounds before gas-out on a full mag), the entire gun is hard steel where it should be and reasonably solid polymer almost everywhere else, the hop unit is hilariously easy to get at if you need to change parts, the stock hop and IB setup is solid enough to be left alone anyways, the only particularly weak point (the lower handguard's retainer tab) can be fixed by replacing it with any other AK handguard, the gun works with any aftermarket that'd fit an AKS-74 (read: standard handguards, real-spec dust covers and gas tube covers + 4.5mm-pin sidefolding stocks and stock adapters) and the launch issue of guns arriving with zero internal lubrication no longer exists meaning that, assuming you're buying new-production, the gun will perform that well fresh out of the box without any need for BCG and magazine disassembly - while the TM AKM is a solid performer and would normally be a decent recommendation, VFC's AK-74M is a genuine contender for one of the best GBBRs ever made so far and I'd go with that over anything elseXE review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLtOwSkHiY
>>238357>>238352I told my friend to get the ghk but he wants the bokt release. He's mainly trying to get one fore manual of arms training.I just want something to upgrade to for myself for my stalker kit, I run a cm040j right now and I want a classic style ak next so it was gbbr or custom tm cyma
>>238358Sorry "bolt release". Again they wanted something for manual of arms like I said.On my end though gbbr seems interesting but I've been split on what fits my kit and whats too rare or expensive for me to buy the gun for and can actually field in airsoft. I can't even afford a real ak thats any good, without hitting my savings, so it kinda fits both my wants for airsoft.
>>238357Aren't ASG garbage? I saw someone at the field using a KJW and it looked alright all things considered; are they only good if you upgrade them?
>>238357>>238369Also does a regular 10/22 stock fit/they make a wood stock for it? What about ten round mags?
>>238369Also>Official HERA Arms licensed real steal chassisConsidering that HERA arms is airsoft tier garbage anyway (in comparison to firearms manufacturers), not much of a bonus
>>238369asg doesn't make anything (besides the skorpion) the Hera arms is made by KJW. They are just a license holder. Same with Umarex and Cybergun.
>>238372Also the Skorpion being made by asg is a bit of a meme. They just have all the parts sent to their warehouse in Denmark where it's assembled. It's just a marketing gimmick
>>238372Ah, so that's why a bunch of the CZ shit sucks then. Damn. Who makes their pistols?Anyways the KC02 is cheaper than the Novritsch anyway, and apparently people are saying Ruger stocks fit on them so that'd be the method I'd go with. Just want a wooden ranch rifle style stock. Might put a little rimfire scope on it too. For kicks and giggles though, assuming I wanted to do no upgrades, what're the issues with the SSQ22? Reason I ask is because the local shop has one in stock.
>>238358>stalkerever think of putting together a groza? some guy on reddit did that
>>238374ASG CZ oem is also KJW. I wouldn't get a Kc02 unless you Really want one. I had one and it's crap out of the box. You should look at the rogueworx site and when you realize literally everything in it has to be replaced and how much it costs you'd think otherwise. I have had one and it's not worth the hassle. An example is that ootb you can't change the barrel or hop up rubber because it's all proprietary. You have to use the rogueworx hop. And remember they are placed in the UK so there's a extra tax because of brexit when importing it. On the Novritsch I have tried one and desu it's fine but it's built on the raptor which is a clone that uses its own parts. Like T8 for MWS is different. I wrote about the VMP2 earlier have you looked at one? My mate has one and it's a great rifle. (you need to swap inner and rubber as well like everything)
>>238377Oh yeah fuck all that then. Idc if the Novritsch is a different standard or doesn't have as good of an upgrade ceiling if it works better out of the box. It's a silly idea for down the line anyway; the mental image of plugging a guy in full chink knockoffs of crye with a fucking .22 like he was a gopher just sounds hilarious. Also the VMP-2 looks kinda neat. Is Vorsk gtg for a lot of stuff? I'm pretty sure the shop can order those, they've got one of their 226s in stock.Honestly I wouldn't mind getting some sort of AR just to see what owning a GBBR is like. Closest thing I have right now is one of those KWC Uzis. It's alright but hangs up sometimes and I have no clue why.
>>238376I am more of a m82 valmet person than a groza person for bullpup ak. I'd consider a pp19/18 whichever the bizon was. It's kinda sad the an94 never gets anything.
>>238378Vorsk was known for making shitty hicapa knockoffs, but their VMP projects have been good. The VMP2 have sold like hotcakes in the UK, and I've only heard good things. Same from my friend
>just ordered 400 euros worth of shit i don't really need brosfeels good manwasn't sure if my new tactical pants with knee inserts would really look good in navy so i ordered them in black too. not sure what im gonna do with either but i was hoping to wear a lot of blue and brown somehow, something like pic related i guess (won't get a BDU shirt though, i'll just wear a t shirt and a jacket over my rig if i need to)>>238380>but their VMP projects have been goodvmp1 looks very cool but the general sentiment about it seems a bit mixed
>>238390nevermind i think ive found my aesthetic
>>238379>It's kinda sad the an94 never gets anything.there's a S&T one coming, but it's an AEG so eh
>>238390>400 euros worth of shit i don't really needI grew out of that really fast
>>238398yeah its a guilty pleasure for sure but i just order shit on a whim and only decide if i really want to keep it once i have it in my hands. thats why i ordered like 3 different pairs of pants and 3 different foregrips
>>238369>>238370>>2383711. ASG's simply a distributor, the OEM for a large amount of their GBBs is KJ Works - including CZs (which to my knowledge are actually damn good performers, their P-09 in particular has a legendary reputation), Steyr L9, M9, STI Tac Master 1911, "P18" (KP-13, basically royalty-free G17 which I was able to run for four years before having to replace a couple of parts and get it back up and running) and for this conversation most notably the KC02, which is the base gun their H-22 is built off of2a. Stock KC02 needs to have a rear stock tang removed from the receiver to fit real stocks (or you need to remove material from the stock, but most go with the receiver mod), unsure if the H-22 needs the same treatment but I'd imagine not?2b. I believe a niche manufacturer in HK/Taiwan produces flush-fit mags, but they only hold 8 rounds and are very expensive per unit3. The stock KC02 chassis isn't very good (picrel 1, also heard that the pistol grip is particularly rattly) so even if Hera's stuff isn't great by real-steel standards it probably beats the piss out of the standard Bubba-esque affair it comes with>>238374As for the Novritsch gun, IIRC the quality control is remarkably poor and a great number of parts are too off-spec to allow replacement with off-the-shelf parts - which is a huge issue when the gun has problems and one of the things the KC02 platform is most known for is having a metric shitload of aftermarket availableIf you're going to ball out on a KC02, to my knowledge the H-22 is the best route for a stock pick-up-and-play gun with no fuss, however...
>>238378...I'd personally recommend a VFC AR; their Olympic Arms (picrel) build runs $300USD before shipping from Asian retailers and comes with two mags, getting you into a system that's very competently designed with some of the best GBB AR mags on the market (which are also relatively cheap, too) and doesn't require too much out of the box (bucking and barrel swap at most OOTB, if you want maybe get a steel fire control group with the gun or later down the line because while the stock parts aren't necessarily bad to my knowledge, they aren't as good as proper steel) while being CQB legal due to the short barrel, bypassing any need for an NPAS - for not a whole lot more you can get some retro carbines, though they've only got one mag out of the box and may benefit from an NPAS for power adjustment purposesExplosive Enterprises has a good video on them, would recommend watching it; if you're more interested in the MWS system on a budget he also made a video on the Double Eagle N4 recently that's quite helpful, so check that one out too and see which one appeals to you morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iDVLTMt-40https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qol9iEMLJ-0>>238390the VMP-1 is basically a clone of the KWA MP9, which has a mixed reputation due to certain elements of the design shitting themselves a little too quickly for comfort; I'd imagine the VMP-2 is better by virtue of having its own fire control and blowback design on the inside while using the same mags, but I don't have enough experience or knowledge about the things to really say anything; I like the Charger-esque model they've got though, would be cool to see something like that but with TM-spec Glock mags
>>238408How long does it take to get one from Asia? Anyone carry it stateside? Also any clones with a steel fcg to start with? I can't imagine it takes AR triggers.
>>2384141. Last time I ordered something from Asia it took a couple of weeks, though it varies depending on retailer and what shipping service they're using2. Nope, unfortunately VFC GBBRs aren't exactly a common sight at stateside retailers for one reason or another (though their mags and some replacement parts can be found), so Asian import is the only way - beats the hell out of buying WE or GHK ARs stateside and having to contend with QC issues and replace a lot more parts though3. VFC's higher-end ARs have higher-end material compositions (ex. their MK18 MOD 1, as mentioned in the former of the two videos) and thus have steel fire control parts; however, a decent chunk of retailers that sell VFC ARs also sell VFC OEM steel fire control parts for not a lot of money (ex. Proact has an OEM steel trigger and hammer for ~$42USD combined), so it's possible to just buy the spare parts and swap them in when needed or when you feel like it, whichever comes first4. I've heard mixed things about slapping AR triggers into GBBRs, but the safest bet is to guess "no", or at least "not entirely"
I'm planning to use a VZ61 as a side arm, howerver I'm left handed so surplus holster are inconvenient to me and Kydex ones cost more than the replica itself, do you know if a nylon universal holster could do the trick, with some modification
>>238435i've fit a mauser c96 into a generic mil tec leg holster before, and it worked decently fine. the main issue is that you probably won't get the gun fit very deep inside the holster due to the mag. but if you don't mind taking the mag out before holstering then i think you can pretty easily fit it in a lot of universal holsters
>>238436>i've fit a mauser c96 into a generic mil tec leg holster before, and it worked decently fine. i said "worked decently fine" but what i meant was "it didn't immediately fall out", i would not have brought it to a game like that
>>238435Another leftoid mutant L
is it true that every american airsoft game is exclusively played with AR15s and you are only allowed to run an AR10 if you can prove you also have an AR15 with you
>>238461100% true fact checked by real patriots
Is there any logistical reason why USPs with stainless finish slides are basically non-existent outside of aftermarket kits? This is the closest thing I can find offered from the factory.I mean, it doesn't even have to be actual stainless steel, just make it look the part and that's it. Is it too difficult to do with the shitty alloys manufacturers use?
>>238514In TM's case they're too busy building Resident Evil shit special editions instead of releasing a proper USP Match. God, I fucking hate TM releasing gay replicas only retards want. Instead of releasing an M16A1 they released some faggy racegun AR
Does the kwa Aug use proprietary mags as well?
Are there issues running high preasure gas on hotter days for pistols?
>>238514Guessing the majority of people buying a USP want it black (ex. in TM's case, the USP is clearly meant to appeal to fans of MGS2 IIRC), even if the stainless look evokes memories of classic Counter-Strike - sucks, but imo isn't the most concerning thing with USPs, as someone who owns a TM-spec USP with a snapped trigger and is extremely frustrated with the lack of replacement trigger components seven years after the gun released (the only replacements out there are SRC OEM parts for their clone, and while that would get the gun working again I'd rather buy something better if it was available, but the only aftermarket parts out there at the moment are basically just replacement slides, frames, sights and outer barrels)>>238537Yes, no word on its performance but KWA's history with GBBRs isn't remarkably confidence-inspiring>>238539Higher temperature = higher pressure, so while higher-pressure gases are helpful in colder temperatures they beat the hell out of your gun a lot more harshly in summer heat; best to stick to propane (or if you're running stock Marui pistols that aren't a recent design, 134a/144a/Swiss Arms 110) until things cool down
>>238435You'd have to get really creative with fabricating the holster, doesn't mean it cannot be done. I've only seen people use Skorpions as primaries in cqb arenas.
just got my G&G EBR long today. its a big gun. seems very nice externally, though all the external moving parts seem to have no lubrication at all. the stock and trigger movements are both very scratchy and grindy. i'm not sure how normal it is for guns to arrive like this, but this is the first time it's happened to me. the internal action sounds fine when dry firing though. it's actually a bit quieter and much less whiny than the other G&G AEG i have (though that is not a high bar to clear)i had prepared for the worst regarding the front heaviness, but the center of balance is actually around the magazine area. that would make it pretty typical, except the mag area is a lot more forward than in an AR for example. so instead of the center of balance being between your hands, it's pretty much right on top of your forward hand. i drew a picture to kinda show what i mean. its not too tough carrying it, but actually aiming it for long periods of time unsupported is likely a bit taxing. my natural instinct would be to grip it by the magwell and push it into my body for support, but there is no magwell and grabbing it by the magazine doesn't seem great, so i think a vertical grip is pretty much a must have. maybe having something to weigh down the back would help too? idkanyway after moving it around for a while, i kinda got used to it and started thinking that maybe it's a pretty typical rifle weight after all. then i picked up my old GR300 long, which is a full length metal rifle with a bit of front weight, and it felt feather light next to the EBR lolverdict: i love my my big new anchor
>>238765what the heck happened to my imageheres the same image but with less radiation damage
Anyone ever fuck with Krytacs? My trident 1 upper needs a new hop up since the stock one split on the bottom right in front of the clip. I saw that Laylax makes Krytac spec ones but I don't know if those are for the Vectors or not. That and I wanna use a different bucking and iirc the Krytac hops aren't great with non Krytac buckings. I'm just tired of my rainbow trajectory BBs.
>>238765i noticed i was not able to find a good size comparison for the EBR when originally shopping for long guns, so i took pic related for thati was worried about the length originally, but honestly this thing is so bulky that that it doesn't even come across as long like the OG M14 does. instead it just feels very large overall, like an LMG. honestly handling this thing reminds me of being an airsofting child and handling an adult sized AEG for an extra comparison, i can pick up my GR300 one-handed, flick it around and fire it like a pistol, but i cant really get the EBR into a hip firing position without using both hands. still, i sort of adore it for all the same reasons i find it inconvenient, though there is a worry is that it's not as quaint after running around with it for an hour or two
can you play airsoft with your friends in a forest, or will you get shot or arrested?
>>238520>Instead of releasing an M16A1 Meanwhile VFC released almost all fixed upper combinations for an M16 so far>some faggy racegun ARThat's unfortunately what gay retards buy. An M16 isn't interesting to them.
>>238838>canare you asking like "is it possible" or "is it legal"it's generally not legal to go wave around potentially dangerous BB guns anywhere without permission from the owner of the property. but if you are out in the woods then you probably won't get caught or shot. probably. i still wouldn't do itwhen me and the boys were kids, we would just go airsoft wherever that didn't have too many passerbys, like the edge of town. occasionally someone would show up to jog past and we would yell "hey pause the game" so that we didn't put his eye out. in hindsight it was all pretty dumb
>>238838National forest in the US? Legal. But that won't mean you won't get shot or arrested.
>>238875That's why I switched to VFC. It's a shame that no companies make forged or CNC receivers for them
>>238808really wish this thing had a quick spring change system. there are so many different allowed joule ranges in my area and opening this thing up is a real headache
>>239184You could just make the GB Quick change with a drill and a dremel
>>239188is that a real thing
>>239196You need the right spring guide and I imagine you'll get a ton of piston tilt
>that one faggot that nobody likes and has an anger issue every gameyou just know this dude gets raped at home on the regular. idk where they come from.
>that one faggot mad about me being a faggot nobody likes and has anger issues and gets raped at homeLOL cope
>that one faggot who just lurks the thread instead of playingbitch nigger lmao
>>239401I HATE THIS GUY AAAAAAAAAAA
>cool gun you want to buy is a piece of shit>good gun you want to buy is boringnow what
Went to a gbbr game today. You wouldn't know anything about it aeg/hpa trannies
>>239426Is the bad gun totally irredeemable even with upgrades?
will never follow up on this but I keep thinkingwouldn't it be cool?
Coming to an indoor field near you
>>239441i wouldn't say totally irredeemable but having to spend 2x the money and 10x the time gutting it so it can still not be as good as the boring but good gun is just harrowingthings would be so much easier if i just loved AR variants and 1911s>>239449reminds me of the cyberpunk trailer gun from 10 years ago when it's setup like that
>>239449Was thinking of grabbing one of those air grips, a blade trigger, and a goofy handguard for some ar and making an airsoft marker
>>239449kys
>>239449Needs a hopper on top that goes WHIRRRR WHIRRRRRR....Honestly, tho, those motorized hoppers were a really cool piece of tech.
i dunno what kinda paint G&G uses on their stuff but the mail scratched off my M14 magazine after seating it in place maybe like 3 times. i guess that's one way to disincentivize returns
>>239528>maili must have been listening to something while writing this lol, i mean paint of course
I'm thinking about buying a Zenitco RK-1 + B-25U angled bicycle foregrip. Anyone have experience with them?
>>235461> too expensive> will vaporize bio BBs> heavy trigger pull (heavier than actual milspec, probably like 8-10lbs)might as well buy a GBBR and save the rest of the money for other stuff.
>>239426what gun
>>239653>cool gun but shitto be honest i dont even remember what i was specifically thinking of, probably something like an Ares RDB>good gun but boringevery single airsoft gun ever made has an armalite variant in its category that probably outperforms it, which naturally gives me armalite fatigue. also i wouldn't say MP5s and AKs are boring but they aren't exciting either
>>238808i've decided the EBR is pretty impractical for general use. i'd need to run it slightly below stock to even bring it to local weekly games, and that rapes my soul too much as a concept so i'm not going to do that. instead i'm going to buy a G&G F2000 for that. i was also briefly thinking of getting a different bullpup but very few have the kind of "autists 3d printing new triggers and handguards for it in they garages" aftermarket support like the F2000 doessensible thing would be to return the EBR since i'm barely going to be able to use it, but it continues to generate a smile whenever i pick it up, so i may instead just keep it as an emotional support kinda gun
>>239657https://fourleaf.ie/ares-kel-tec-rdb-airsoft/>Proprietary EFCS>EFCS will shit itself if you use certain motors>Standard gears but has a magnet for the EFCS so aftermarket gears are a no-no>Proprietary hopup>Areseven if you wanted to make this into a good gun, you really can't if you don't have insane teching skills. Best you can do is make it "adequate" enough to play with.
>>239711>Here is the brand new Double Bell Ares KEL-TEC RDB!>Had to replace broken piston seal >The shaft of the motor was protruding too much, had to press the motor shaft through the motor to get it in the correct position>Had to replace the little metal circular disc that normally sits between the motor and its adjustment screw because it was actually missing, meaning the screw pressed directly on the motor itselfFuck all that noise.
>>239740As much problems as a real keltec lol
I wonder what will happen to all those airsoft manufacturers when China invades Taiwan.
i have in my possession a leak of the 5 airsoft rifles to be released in 2026>AR15 with 16 inch barrel>ayare15 with extra special "dark earth" imitiation kydex furniture>ayugh ahre fifden CQB speedsoft edishun with da stubby 9mm mahg >black AK with rails (actually very interesting due to being the main service rifle of the famous short-lived balkan nation "shitslavistan")>H&K G11 (made by ARES)
>>239751they won't
>>239760Grok, is this real??????
>>239760I want companies to make airsoft reproductions of small arms from ace combat just to confuse people and up charge for things that don't exist.Yuktobanian AK for all.
>>239760Here grorious AMD-65 from Hungaly, u rike?
would like one of these but 400 dollar gun + 200 dollar conversion kit seems like a bit of a humiliation ritual
Reminder that pic related is all you need.
just tried an angled foregrip and it felt terrible to use. not sure i get the point
>>239846oh youre supposed to like c clamp it
>>239846It only feels good when right against the mag well or if you have big hands and need more surface area to c clamp.Arx Beretta for how ugly it looks has probably the best oem angled grip.
>>239845>scopeuse irons like a real man, you fucking queer
>>239856No, this way I can walk my shots on to target with greater ease.
>>239870skill issue
>>239845what do u need the beretta for though
>putting a stock and sling on my new ak pistol is gonna cost $240 Aaaaaa
fine weekend for a little larp
apparently my G&G EBR came out firing like 0.85J out of the box, when it should have been at 1.2-1.5J range. shop page promised 370 fps at 0.2g. not sure if i should just return it because i fear a 30% loss in power could mean there is something really retarded going on inside (plus paying $500 for a gun and have it be so shit out of the box is just nuts to me)>>239904yes but surely its resale value will also go up by 240
>>239891Clearing bunkers and rooms.>>239914Interesting flags and patches.
>>239921My Krytac did the same thing. Nozzle needed lube.
>>239927i used a better quality chrono and 0.25g bb instead of 0.3g and it gave me 1.1J instead. if the first chrono wasn't completely off then it might be that they put in a ported piston with the 500mm barrel, which could mean joule loss with higher weight BB. but i don't know if it could account for that much loss in muzzle energy
>>239921Pff. If I end up buying it I'm keeping it. Shopping list is MI buffer tube adapter, SL-K, MS4, and qd mounts. Surprised airsoft manufacturers don't offer something cheaper for it.
>>239944yeah the joke kinda was that the more you upgrade or modify a gun, the less confident people are about buying it. at least, that's the experience i have had. for me personally, i assume anyone selling a modded gun through some typo-ridden posting with barely any info makes me assume they probably fucked it up pretty bad while modding it. and then they probably put 10,000BBs through it and let it rest in the sunlight on the porch. but ooohhh my biggest gripe when buying used is someone taking a perfectly good gun and spray painting shit all over it oohh the freehanded paint squirts all over it ahh i can't take it
>>239946The spray paint doesn't bother me much because I can just spray over it. But the rest is definitely true; people are usually pretty shitty at working on guns.
>>239947i think its a peeve for me personally because its the owner going "im going to make my gun extra speshul and add my personal flair" and then they proceed to try to sell it anyway. its kinda like engraving your name on something and then not wanting to keep it
>>239950I guess the way I look at spray paint is utilitarian. It's just something you do to fit your environment
i did the math and it would take me around 350 dollars to make my new gun perform at the same level as a stock 300 dollar specna arms m4. but hey at least its not an m4
>>239960It just occurred to me that I wonder why companies don't just offer externals + gearbox as a special retail option that costs 30% less and let players build their own guns out of them. Maybe it would be a hard sell back in like 2010 but in 2025 it feels like anyone who spends serious money in airsoft intends to throw the stock internals away with most guns
>>239998Because the amount of people that do that is still very small, and if they upgrade they pay someone else to do it.
>>240011it doesn't really matter if it's low volume of sales, since it doesn't require them to do any R&D and they can generally produce as many as people want to buy. they could charge greater margins and it's still cheaper for everyone involved because you don't end up with people buying a gun and immediately tossing away the stock barrel, the hop up nub and bucking, the gears, the motor, the piston and so on, and it might simplify their QC tooi would say it was unfeasible to do something like this 10-15 years ago but nowadays i'm hard pressed to find any airsoft enthusiasts who don't have encyclopedic knowledge of aftermarket parts and how their guns are built
>>240011>if they upgrade they pay someone else to do it.i mean this could work alongside it, you could buy a cyma AK shell for 100 dollars and pick out what parts you want in it as you buy it from evike or whatever. actually now that i think about it, i feel like they must already do something like this for their custom builds, since it seems silly that they'd buy a stock gun from a manufacturer and then throw away most of the parts
>>239998They do, it's just piecemeal.
What is the deal with the VFC FAL GBBR not available anywhere? Finally have enough money put aside for it and it’s non existent. If it’s out of stock at the moment how long does it take to make new ones? I really want to get out in the field before winter…….
>>240054are you american? i can find it on powair6 (france) at leastafaik theres some weird shit regarding VFC availability in the US, so most people just import them
>>240071Speaking of, where can you get VFCs from as a murrican? I wanted to try one of their ARs and do a burndown on it
>>240071Tariff related? Thanks for the suggestion. Looking at 800usd now, ack…
Just bought a VZ61 as a sidearm for my MK12 loadout, how the fuck do I carry it, in a GP pouch ?
>>240124custom holster on your belt (3d printer or retail) or 1-point sling + some attachment point in your chest or beltfor me personally chest attachment to molle is coolest for machine pistols simply because it looks kinda cool. sadly vz61 doesn't have rails so you can't use a weapon link like the FMA's
>>240129oh actually you can actually attach rails to a vz61 so you could still molle attach it via a FMA weapon link (found this on thingiverse)
>>240130faggot shit
>>240124How about a VZ61 holster?https://www.k-var.com/vz-61-skorpion-leather-holster
>>240136dont sign your posts
>>240138Nah I'm gonna back the guy up. What's airsofters' obsession with 3d printing nigger rigged bullshit that's just going to break the first time you try to slide into a bunker instead of just taking three fucking seconds to Google to see if there's a cheap, readily available milsurp option designed for the fucking thing you're worried about?
>>240139>cheap, readily available milsurp option designed for the fucking thing you're worried abouti just pointed it out as an option if he can't find one elsewhere. often trying to track down a milsurp version is a pain in the ass and usually requires paying a huge markup because they're so scarce. some parts are genuinely not available outside the 3d printing scenedesu i like 3d printing some parts because it's easy and completely free for me. it also lets me try it out and decide whether i want to actually track down a real steel version for later
>>240141I didn't mean to blast at you specifically but just at airsoft in general; this idea of reaching around elbows to get to assholes.
>upgrading 2 guns >realize they will share 90% of parts despite being for different rolesthis is fucking me up
>>240139>What's airsofters' obsession with 3d printing nigger rigged bullshitEvery retard wants to feel speciul and gay "customization" like that is the cheapest and easiest way to do that. Before that it was custom made chest rigs, plate carriers and patches but the former two were a lot more expensive than 3D printing useless garbage.
>>240124The ghettolster work just fine
>>240252you should 3d print TACO style brackets and cords for it
>>240254Nooooo you can't 3d print stuff it's gay you have to instead buy the parts from a shop that bought it from China
i forgot how fucking awful it is to try to set up trades with airsofters. youd think these guys were addicted to crack with how willing they are to nickle and dime you with random scams
>>240288tell me about it >every time having to deal with airshitters wanting to buy something from you
>>240346does that happen often? i've only had someone wanting to buy a discontinued gun off me
>>228063>be me>sad all the time as my purchases just dont satisfy>after a year of searching finally get my hands on an affordable sexond hand deal ona Cyma RPK>happiness returnsFun and games aside, what did you guys get your hands on that just made you happy, similar to the expectation you had before the purchase ? Also any big guys itt ? I gotta say the handguard on the rpk is somewhat slippery and well, just not all that comfy. I want to shoulder mine with ease which i do have the strenght for but my hands being the length that they are, there are no edges to grab onto in tha sweet spot length. Can that be mitigated by some different type of handguard, like one of those thumb hole AK handguards ? Or maybe an RPD style handguard ? Pls help me brainstorm with some experience
>>240353I started using GBBRs and haven't bought a single ngbb replica since. So much more fun. Would have quit the hobby if I haven't switched to GBBRs
>>240254Work just fine desu, I have some plasticard laying around if need be
Here's my cursed P90. I'd normally run midcaps, but that zaku drum is so ridiculous, I had to have it.
>>240252using the gp work fine as a holster, however, it tends to double feed bb every other shot if I don't spam the trigger, I think it's a hop up problem
need pistol but pistols are lame and hicapas are the lamest of all of themid use a h8r if they werent so shit
>>240572buy a Glock
>>240572buy a springer. be a man. one shot, one kill.
>try to fix up a gun within 4 hours of a gamenever making that mistake again lol
>>240664>he takes only one gun to the gameyou will learn at some point.
>>240698i have 2 backup guns but i REALLY wanted to use that 1 specific gun for that game and so i was obsessed with trying to fix it upeventually i gave up and headed over with a different gun but it turns out my car had died so it didnt matter either way
>>240698I need a back up gun other than my tokarev.
>>240729You only have 2?
>>240787I have 4 airsoft guns 2 we tokarev, kwa tokarev, and a cyma ktr AK 105 with rails.I keep wondering if I should use parts I have for a cyma 023 but Idk if I should make a tamiya AK project a thing.
>>240810>3 Tokarevs
>>240572Why don't you like the H8R? It's so cheap and it shoots bbs. What more do u need?
>>240864i think i read about it having some QC issues but i don't remember what they werebut really it's not h8r's fault as much as airsoft revolvers in general having a bunch of drawbacks, with the h8r being the least shit one. but even though the h8r is ok, a decent semiauto pistol still has 4x the capacity, an easier reload and a better trigger pull. so i suspect actually using the thing for the purpose of laying down a fusillade of low joule BBs within low MED would kinda suck in comparison to the other optionsi shouldn't have called it shit because it is cheap and it does its job, and it does look more interesting in your holster than your average john wick styled TM hicapa that everyone else has. i might still get one but i am afraid i'd hate using it after a while
>>240872H8R's big issue is that it's a 6mm conversion of a cheapo 4.5mm BB gun, meaning it's not designed to be worked on and wasn't really designed with a hop-up in mind (BBs slam through the bucking at full speed instead of being seated before exiting, putting extra stress on it), and on top of that the bucking within the thing is pretty weak - buddy of mine had it chew through its bucking in under 200 rounds, and the buckings it uses are nonstandard necessitating some bespoke modifications on the end user's partIt's cool in theory as an NBB, since a thread adapter means making it quiet, but in practice the juice isn't worth the squeezeIf you're looking for a sidearm, I can personally recommend the KJW G17/KP-13 - mine lasted around four years before having parts fail, and thanks to aftermarket being plentiful I can confirm that a GM Ti-coated trigger lever and GM alum slide are drop-in fitsI know there's also the Army/EMG Staccatos for 2011s, which are pretty well-regarded, but I don't have hands-on experience with them
>>240876>KJW G17a two-tone glock or a USP would be kinda interesting but after thinking about it, i usually buy guns based on how much it tickles me to handle one, and there just isn't any pistol that activates my neurons like that. i partially wanted the h8r because it is at least a revolver and cheap, but i really don't want to deal with those hop up issues you describedi should maybe just use whatever old busted pistol i can get my hands on until my brain almonds reconfigure themselves to find a pistol they actually like. either that or i get some hyper compact SMG as my next AEG and try to work that into my kit
>>240876>>240883oh yeah i forgot i was going to go off about how i love the wingun schofield aesthetically but making it even field legal would be a tough sell
Whats the current meta rifle? Looking for a reliable airsoft gun for around $500. I don’t know shit about airsoft but I want to try it, looking for either an AK74 or some flavor of AR15.
>>241106Specna prime. They make them for both M4 and AK
>>241106>some flavor of AR15you're in luck because that's the default airsoft gun and you can find very good stuff for that platform. i havent bought one but i constantly hear about how the specna AR15s are very cheap and good. edge 2.0 is mentioned a lot online but again i have no personal experience with themthere's also cyma platinum for AKs but i don't know how well they hold up vs specna stuff. afaik the main reasons i can think of to get an AK instead of an AR, aside from personal preference, is the slightly sturdier gearbox for upgrades, and the stock is typically also a bit more lenient in terms of cheek rest with masks. my info might be out of date though.imo your gun should only be like half of the money you intend to start with. a lot of expenses pop up since you do need decent eyepro, good boots and decent pants. a lot of the shit people wear in airsoft matches is larp stuff that you don't actually need though. if you want a way to carry stuff easily, get a a decent two piece belt (shooter belt)
>>241106>a lot of expenses pop up since you do need decent eyepro, good boots and decent pantsactually to correct myself, it varies depending on what field you play on, you can get away with some really basic clothes and sneakers if you're playing in an indoor arena or something like that, but if you're out rustling in the trees then you are actively putting yourself in danger unless you have the gear for itand honestly this is a bit of a grim truth grenade but i would go check out the fields in your area before you commit to any meaningful purchase. some fields are vastly preferable to others. you may have better fields farther away that are worth the 25 mile drive. i bought an extra gun explicitly to play at a local field but then i showed up and realized it's a tiny forest area that combines basically all elements of what i hate about actually playing airsoft (no room to flank, poor visibility, can't really maneuver quickly) so now i'm stuck with a 400 dollar paperweight. oh well
>>241109Thanks>>241112>imo your gun should only be like half of the money you intend to start with. a lot of expenses pop up since you do need decent eyepro, good boots and decent pants. a lot of the shit people wear in airsoft matches is larp stuff that you don't actually need though. if you want a way to carry stuff easily, get a a decent two piece belt (shooter belt)I have tons of gear already from guns. I’m a schizo so I stock up on surplus. All I need is an airshit gun. I mostly want to try milsim west to test out my DZ rig and my ruck. Probably won’t wear pc pic rel
>>241106AEG: Maple Armouries Marauder/Blackout (depending on price range), insane bang-for-buck performance with the bonus 5-mag + 2-battery bundles being solid value as wellGBBR: VFC V3 or TM MWS systems, both having cheap entry options (VFC Olympic Arms and Double Eagle N4) and both having solid videos on them by Explosive Enterprises
>>241130Cool thanks any other good non shill reviewers on yt besides EE? The brands are completely foreign to me I have no clue what I’m doing, just need to consooom some reviews
>>241139not that anon but i study stuff obsessively before buying anything but i profess its generally pretty hard to find real reviews for airsoft stuff in general. dedicated reviewers can't really give much more than a cursory assessment of any gun. people mostly go by the manufacturers' reputation with regards to a specific style of gun. afaik specna arms is pretty much based around making really good AR15s. tokyo marui is the toyota of airsoft, in both good and bad. cyma is a good budget brand with a higher-end platinum line, though they still have a slight reputation for using chinese pot metal. G&G usually has great externals and materials, but they are retarded boomers stuck in 2010 and can't seem to figure out the whole "pre-upgraded" thing.aside from that, i look for mentions of a gun on forums, reddit etc to see if there's anything expressly bad about the specific model. you aren't necessarily going to find detailed reviews of every gun because (electric) airsoft guns are very similar internally, and a typical manufacturer uses the same parts/materials as much as possible. the industry is based around aping tokyo marui products so the main differences come from a few points>the manufacturer, the parts and materials they use, and their market>the gun's gearbox version (AR15 has a V2, which usually translates to a better gun for the price point, though it can have issues handling a heavier aftermarket spring)>what (few) proprietary parts it has and what quality they arewith gas guns it gets a bit different but a lot of the same applies.also as a side note, take everything you read online with a grain of salt. airsoft quality control is not great, and sometimes someone gets a lemon and calls the whole brand crappy based on that. and imo more often some dumb teenager puts a m140 spring into a stock V2 gearbox and cracks it, and then goes on reddit to rant about how that gun is bad. a lot of dumbasses and children play this sport so keep that in mind
Everyone please welcome LCT into the 21st century
i had this idea for what i wanted for a sling/harness thing. basically it'd be a way to comfortably carry weapons on your torso like you usually do with 2 point slings, but with a way to instantly turn it into a normal 1 point sling when you actually need to use the gun, kinda like a best of both worlds thing. idk if it's overengineered or even feasible, or if it already exists. it wouldn't be a huge upgrade over a normal 2 point sling with quick adjust, but i think it'd allow for more security and tautness while in 2 point configuration since it'd work more like a harness than a slingi think 3 point slings kinda try to do this but they don't quite work the same afaik
newfag to airsoft here, got a brand new hk416 NGRS and the trigger pull is awful, responsiveness sucks and it jams too much in semi automatic and I hate how AEGs with quick trigger pulls have inconsistent spots where the gear or whatever stops leading to inconsistent responsiveness in trigger pulls.is installing a Jefftron Leviathan or similar and turning on precocking a solution? do I have to swap batteries or is the proprietary nimh batteries good enough?>inb4 just get a GBBR insteadalready got one and it's so much better than AEGs holy shit but I want to use my NGRS as an infinite ammo hack cheater gun.
>>241163Getting a ngrs was your first mistake. If you wanted a infinite ammo gun why wouldn't you instead get something better without the shitty "recoil" the ngrs has
>>241141Thanks anon. Any good videos to learn about internals? Also I have an Evike store in my town, maybe I’ll just go in person and check out stuff in person.
I'm the guy who bought a G&G PRK9 recently. Mags are coming in soon but took it out to fill a vacancy for a cqb game. Shot pretty well for a but but I was having a few shots be super low velocity for some reason; I know it wasn't BBs hitting the Chrono because I could see them just rainbow into the dirt a couple of times. Can a low battery cause that or should I dig a bit further in?
>>241130Nta but what's the step up from the Olympic Arms?
>>241150Buy webbing, hardware and learn to do simple stitches. I make my own because I have particular preferences over material and color choices (generally better than what the manufacturer's pick). You can prototype with temporary fixings to see if it comes together.
Should I just get a Tokyo Mauri for my first AEG
>>241169i've drawn my information from talking to different people and reading a ton of opinions online, so i don't have that many good resources to offer. TheAirsoftTech comes to mind, but a lot of the airsoft science is still guesswork and based on reading multiple sources and picking your favorites. for example the TheAirsoftTech guy is a total OCD autismo in regards to working on airsoft guns but i've heard very convincing arguments dispelling some points he makes. and just looking at his most recent video from 3 years ago, he advocates for some very minor and time-consuming upgrades as something that are "mandatory" for an airsoft gun. so even monkeys fall from trees when it comes to airsoft sciencei think you kinda have to aim for a more holistic view of engineering and how airsoft guns work in order to cut through some of the bullshit and bias, and that comes from reading, watching and listening overall, and some of your own deductions and experiences.that said, this stuff is mostly generally enthusiast-oriented, and a lot of it barely makes any difference because at the end of the day, airsoft guns are still toys. as long as you don't get a total meme gun (basically impossible when buying an AR15 from a reputable brand), you should be fine. in terms of doing better at the actual sport, spending extra time and money on your physical conditioning, your eyepro, clothes and overall ergonomics will probably yield you more benefit than whatever time and money you spend on making sure your BB hose shoots smoother and harder. but it's more fun to work on the guns instead, so that's what a lot of people are inclined to do. i like airsoft but i like working on my guns much more, but i understand i do it more for its own sake than to "win"i think it's a good idea to go over to evike and ask around. most people who work at airsoft shops are enthusiasts and are aching to talk about airsoft
>>241208Cool thanks anon, maybe I’ll head in this weekend. I just want a reliable gun that isn’t made out of chink potmetal. I have a lot of firearms so I don’t really care about simulating recoil, I just want it to work well out of the box and not immediately break on me.
>>241184The improvements come from both replicating a wider array of guns (ex. retro ARs) and some models having better materials; would recommend checking out XE's video on the matter to get a fuller understanding since it's a bit hard to say what's just flat-out better than the OA from an objective perspective beyond thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iDVLTMt-40
>>241109Is a GATE ASTER the best MOSFET or is HAL good enough
>>241209yeah i would just get something that instinctively appeals to you. i'd ask about the specna arms edge 2.0 to begin with>I just want a reliable gun that isn’t made out of chink potmetal.it should be noted that almost all airsoft guns are made of some manner of "pot metal" as a cost saving measure. not all pot metals are equal, though. usually expensive taiwanese guns use a better mix than cheap chinese ones. you can do a basic squeeze and shake to test the build quality and how good the polymer is, but it's kinda hard to know which guns are made from good metals. the airsoft community does not seem that interested in sleuthing which guns are made from the best metals. anyway what you can do is stick to a manufacturer you trust and hear good things about. however you may want to stay away from budget lines because afaik even manufacturers known for their good materials will revert to crappier metals when it comes to making budget stuff.if you're interested, there are some manufacturers that make steel guns. LCT and GHK make steel-body AKs in electric and gas respectively. a lot of nylon-polymer frame guns are also going to be sturdier than your basic airsoft metal alloy frame, and my common sense tells me they'd be even harder to break than a steel gun because the smaller non-steel parts are going to be pushing up against polymer and not steel.
>>241201Depends, which one are you looking at?
>>241164thanks for your answer, gonna upgrade my niggers then.
>>241224I appreciate it but I ain't watching a fuckin' hour. Where can I buy that Mk18?
>>241224>>241259https://www.redwolfairsoft.com/vfc-mk18-gbb-mod-1-v3-airsoft-rifle-colt-licensed.htmlIs this it? It's less than the guy said it should be so I'm worried it's some shitty dogshit.
>>241150quick adjust 2 point sling does what you are describing. and 2-to-1 point slings also exist.
>>241268MS3 my beloved
>>241273Vickers combat slings are even better. Cheap at lanbos.
>>241259>>2412601. Watch it, it's probably the single-best source of information on the VFC V3 platform and will give you a full understanding of what you're getting into *before* dropping nearly 500 United States buckaroos on a rifle before shipping - plus XE's videos are very well put-together2. That is indeed the better of the two in said review, the price Catgut puts in his reviews almost always includes shipping to the US due to either the guns not being sold by US retailers or US retailers price-hiking the guns sufficiently to where it's preferable to just import it on one's own
>>241229https://www.evike.com/products/15040/>KWA AEG 3.0 Ronin Tactical T10-SBR w/ Kinetic Feedback SystemI think I made my mind up on an M4. Should I get this or is it a meme? Still looking for an AK, leaning towards either an Arcturus, Specna Arms EDGE J Series or a CYMA plat. Not sure if I want to go E&L OR LCT.
>>241169>>241106Just wanna mention that the manual of arms between AEG and GBB is very different, GBBs usually have fairly accurate internals and a more true to real steel manual of arms. Racking the bolt, moves an actual bolt, pulling the trigger releases a hammer that releases gas, bolt catch works, magazines don't shoot out bbs when you drop one thats not empty, etc. But it comes with it's own problems so just think about how much stuff like racking the bolt or having a more tactile trigger means to you.
>>241289>Should I get this or is it a meme?added recoil on an AEG is always a bit of a meme, but that KWA gun is at least a good meme since it uses a dedicated kinetic feedback system for it. most other electric recoil systems use blowback, which has a bad reputation since the cycling bolt puts extra stress on the internals and can cause other issues. if you're going to get a recoiling AEG, that's the one you should get. i guess the main downside of that gun is that it's a bit expensive for what you're getting. at that price point i'd expect a slightly better internal parts. i think that gun is more marketed towards the enthusiasts, because they don't care if the motor or barrel are mediocre because they intend to put in aftermarket upgrades anyway. the main reason i personally wouldn't get an AEG with a feedback system is because explosive recoil comes much more natural for GBBs. i'm sentimental about the engineering side of things so i view AEGs being most natural at being delicate clockwork contraptions that spew BBs at 1200 RPM with minimal friction or wasted energy.>>241292i think that anon would probably like a GBBR way more, but i hesitate to recommend one to a new player because it's like 3x more expensive with the magazines, the maintenance is time consuming and having one puts you at a disadvantage vs the guys using the actual "meta guns" like your average 300 dollar value king SBR or SMG. i'd recommend anyone to get a value king gun first and then later delve into meme guns like GBBRs. a meta gun for me would be a hyper compact SMG that i could pivot around corners and over walls, fire one-handed for point shooting in CQB. i already try to do this stuff with full length assault rifles, which doesn't always work great, so i imagine something like this would be my tryhard gunhttps://www.evike.com/products/13365/(bonus points for adjustable fps for squeezing that extra bit of sweat out of the field limit)
>>241295>if you're going to get a recoiling AEG, that's the one you should get.idk if my phrasing made sense but what i mean is: if you want an AEG with recoil, i reckon you're much better off with that KWA gun rather than some overengineered NGRS thing
>>241295>https://www.evike.com/products/13365/oh this thing actually has a bunch of proprietary parts. cringe
>>241288Fair enough. I assume I'm getting into a tinkerer's gun with gas blowback, right? Do these things last a while?
>>241299As long as you buy a decent platform, the amount of tinkering should theoretically be minimal - as well, anything you need to do is simpler than working on an AEG VFC ARs are pretty resilient as well, though XE did just drop a video recently about upgrades for and alternatives to the platform and VFC revealed a new overall revision to the platform that they're starting to roll out, so it may be worth watching the video (it's all of six minutes and change) and waiting to see how the new system pans out before investing in it too deeplyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpI3H-_lOYY
>>241295Yeah you're right about the recoil. I just want an ultra stable bullet hose to spray normies. What do you think about this one? https://www.evike.com/products/21567/GBBR sounds cool but I have enough actual firearms where I think it might be a little gimmicky. Maybe in the future.
>>241302double eagle is a decent value brand afaik, so that's probably a decent gun. i like that it's cheap too. you can probably dig in some more to see if there is some issue with it but honestly, the AR15 market is so competitive that it's hard to really find a bad one these days. if it was really shit for the price point, they wouldn't bother selling them. you mainly have to do a lot of research when you buy something more niche like a rare gun or a specific platform like a DMR. that's where you can make some real mistakes. but honestly, imo just order like 3 different guns, mess around with them, practice pieing corners in your house and then eventually return all of them except the one that instinctively feels right to you.not to get too philosophical but imo airsoft is a sport where you should largely go by your gut rather than information. even if you buy some 600 dollar custom built giga AR on evike, you may discover some triviality like that you don't actually like the way the stock interacts with the mask and optic you want to run, and you wish you bought an AK instead. or the full-steel body AK you buy might feel too heavy to run around with for a full game, and you wish you bought a polymer frame SMG instead. ultimately, every purchase you make will suck to some extent, and so it is generally better to buy stuff based on emotion and have no regrets. you'll feel safe knowing the purchase wasn't dictated upon you by dumb gay shit like other people's advice or logic, and instead you bought it because you wanted it. the best part about airsoft is that you can basically buy anything and make it work with enough love, and if you can't, others will at least see you suffering for it and appreciate you for it.
>>241308Based. I'm gonna get the DE for CQB shit near me and buy an AK or something cool for weekend larp events.
Blowback in airsoft is always a meme. Yeah, it can be cool sometimes, but it's an aesthetic feature. I always thought it's funny how with real guns, people do everything they can to reduce recoil to improve accuracy, but in airsoft, it's the complete opposite.I actually have a gun with electric blowback and didn't realize it until while playing, my friend asked "Hey, your gun has blowback?" I looked at my gun, fired some shots and went "Huh, I guess it does." Pretty much unnoticeable, and 100% for the looks. It broke later, and I fixed it. It didn't affect firing, but now it's just another point of maintenance.
>>241351Sorry but try using a GBBR.Anyways people shit on EBBs but that tiny amount of recoil that slightly shakes the sight picture and taps your shoulder very lightly goes a long way to making a gun feel more snappy.Don't care if it's pointless or even detrimental, it simply is more fun.
>>241351blowback IS a meme. I run GBBRs for realistic manual of arms. Not for "recoil"
>UTR45 going for 140 euros on taiwanguni dont especially want one but how do i resist such a deal
>>228063>Almost all fields around me don't allow full auto>Probably gonna get blasted by cod kids and run and gunners anyway>can buy a good GBB with the price of this>Still want to feel the DAKKA and the heaviness of itTalk me out of it
>>241389Find a full auto field. Otherwise, feel the DAKKA DAKKA in your bedroom.
>>241364trueaeg trigger feel is just trash compared to the feedback that direct mechanical clicks make
>>241308Ended up getting the Calico Jack and a GBB Glock 17 (replicating my home defense guns). 10 mags and 2x 11.1v lipos.I really like both of them, but I see what you guys mean about GBB supremacy. When I get gud and grow bored of the AEG I’ll probably get a GBBR.
>>241407i assume the accessories are worth more than the gun just a fyi, the main 2 reasons people buy pistols in airsoft is for funsies or due to field rules that require them to use a lower power gun for close quarters. just mentioning that you may not need one because i bought a pistol when i was starting out because i thought i needed one, and then i proceeded to never use it for anything except plinking indoors. kinda wish i had put the money towards a GBBR instead
i have a real hard time buying into the cylinder / barrel volume theory>uhm actually a 300mm barrel with a ported cylinder is good for firing 0.43g bbs because muh ratio>nooo you can't run a 500mm barrel, downgrade to a 350mm for the perfect 3:1 ratiomy gut tells me that it shouldn't matter if you run a 400mm or a 600mm barrel as long as you have a full cylinder and a spring that can empty all the air it into the barrel as fast as possible. i don't get the idea that the BB *must* leave the barrel at the peak of the air pressure, and why it can't just ride out that 200mm on pure momentum. there's a suckback effect??? what the fuck is thati would imagine having a longer barrel beyond maximum cylinder capitalization and basic BB stabilization either doesn't matter at all or the various benefits and downsides are so marginal that they don't matter
>>241414The only reason you don't need your pistol is because you play like a pussy and is too scared or fat to push up to a point where you'd need a lower med gun
>>241417Please read.
>>241414>i assume the accessories are worth more than the gunPossibly, its sig romeo5 and extra gun parts from my parts bin. >just a fyi, the main 2 reasons people buy pistols in airsoft is for funsies or due to field rules that require them to use a lower power gun for close quarters. just mentioning that you may not need one because i bought a pistol when i was starting out because i thought i needed one, and then i proceeded to never use it for anything except plinking indoors. kinda wish i had put the money towards a GBBR insteadI bought it because my local field is CQB only and I want to practice pieing with a Glock 17, because its my home defense weapon. I know it’s airshit but I am planning on some skills transferring to the real world. Already have a safariland for it too. No regrets about either, but I think I’ll go GBBR next.
Every GBBR I've used has been a piece of shit but they were a KWC Uzi and an Elite Force UMP so maybe those just suck
>>241446>KWC Uzi and an Elite Force UMP>maybe those just suckNo shit. Try an MWS of VFC V3 ARs or something
>>241465Yeah was gonna order that Mk18. Do AR15 anti walk pins work for it? That was the UMP's one real problem.
I genuinely don't understand the people that purchase like a billion different variants of this shit platform that all look the same. It's the most generic dogwater rifle imaginable but because they have shit like SOPMOD ULTRA HYPER TACTICOOL CONFIG versions they buy them from every brand and manufacturer possible for some godforsaken reason.
>>241472It has a cool development history and fun variants. I wanna see someone do one of those Olympic arms AWB pistols
>>241473They all look the fucking same.>Olympic arms AWB pistolsThat actually looks interesting on virtue of having a completely different side profile and reason for existing. Can't say the same about all the dogshit identical full size rifles.
>>241475What about an LR-300 or a Type-91!
>>241470there's no need for them
>>241472because it's the best "weapons platform" ever made
>>241489I'll hold you to that. Do you have to baby the mags or can you rip? Also how does it take to HPA? Saw that Airtac makes an adapter
>>241472to some extent be explained by the fact that it's just a very decent rifle both in airsoft and real life, and in airsoft buying one is helps you save money and find aftermarket parts. but i don't think it fully explains its popularity since there are other less-popular guns that benefit from that, like the DE UTR45 (which is basically an airsoft AR15 but dressed up as an UMP). so i think there's something more to it. i think it is largely just been accepted as a "default" gun, to the point that people can't wrap their minds around using something else. i've watched a bunch of gun reviews (real steel and airsoft) on youtube and often the tacticool operators tend to sum up their points with "this gun sucks to use because it doesn't work like an AR"i think there has been a bit of a shift in this regard since i feel gun and airsoft enthusiasts of the past wanted guns for historical reasons or their quirky designs. that was the way people expressed themselves then. nowadays, i think people are more inclined to do that by taking a blank canvas (an AR15) and making it their "own" by changing the furniture and strapping all their favorite toys on it. people will claim their AR platform isn't like all the other girls because they picked some world of warcraft subclass for it like an SBR, SPR, DMR, DMR, IAR or SMG. why use anything else for any other purpose when you can just take rig an AR15 to do that role insteadi don't think there's anything wrong with the AR15, and i honestly don't think it's even really overrated. it's a very good gun in both airsoft and real life and it just works. but i do find it a bit annoying as someone who is more of that historical gun autist type because everything is increasingly consolidated around the AR15 fudds who can't wrap their minds around anything else. there are a lot of really cool airshit guns i'd like to buy but they are only made by retarded companies like ARES or they have some insane markup due to low demand
>>241470vfc works with it but i dont really see the need for them
>>241515Well if the pins stay in then sure.
>>241517even with aftermarket triggers like crusader two stage trigger it stays just fine but i put mine one lol cus just for looks
>>241519Aight good enough. Wonder if you could stick an MBT-2S in lol
>>241522i think it might work? but it'll greatly reduce the gas efficiency if it works because now the attack angle of hammer and bcg is perpendicular to eachother just like the real steel
>>241523Gotcha. Think I'll just keep the stock one in mine. How long does that red wolf place take to ship one?
>>241524>$80 shipping Aah, that's why homie fucking said they were $600. Yeah nah fuck that, ain't paying 20% the cost of the gun to ship it
>>241524>>241525>everywhere else is just as expensiveYeah I guess. Who's gonna get it to me the fastest?
>>241526Also also just skimmed a bit more of that guy's vid that was linked. You can use AR buffers, neat. Can I put an A5 kit on it?
is VFC g2g? I want either their 74 or 14.5 URGI. Do they ever go on sale?
>>241530Between the two, their AK-74M is by far the better platform performance-wise, though the AR system's starting to see the introduction of some improvements - newer batches are apparently properly greased out of the box so you'll get the sort of performance XE was getting without needing to go in and lube everything, assuming you don't get a first-batch gun, so I'd go with the AK-74M personally
>>241538What do you use to lube them suckers? White lithium grease? Silicone oil? Dunk it in moly grease?
>>241539Yeah same can I just use clp? Also how do you prevent mags from leaking, because that seems like the Achilles heel of gbbrs
>>241539>>241540DO NOT USE CLPSuper Lube 21030 (multipurpose synthetic grease) is by far the most common suggestion for general-purpose lubrication due to being optimal for both lubricating moving components as well as some seals (though some internal seals would be better served with either the oil equivalent or a 1:1 mix of the oil and grease to produce a thinner grease), since grease doesn't move far from where it's placed and thus doesn't run any risk of getting into, say, the inner barrel and hop unit (something silicone oil, particularly through oiled green gas, is infamous for - propane is the way)White lithium grease is a common runner-up suggestion for moving parts specifically, but frankly I think it's worthwhile to just go on Amazon or to the hardware store and snag some Super Lube - I snagged a 3oz tube and it's not showing signs of running out anytime soonAs for preventing mag leaks, store them with gas in them to prevent the lubricant on the seals from drying out; if your mags are already leaking, Explosive Enterprises has a really good video on maintaining guns and mags alike, but the most likely culprit is either an insufficiently lubricated or damaged sealThe video does also cover lubrication of moving parts AFAIK but a basic rundown of lubricating moving parts is1. field-strip gun2. clean off old lubricant (abraded material will likely have combined or will combine with it to produce an abrasive sludge that accelerates wear)3. apply a thin layer of Super Lube to contact points (ex. slide/bolt rails)4. reassemble, manipulate moving parts a bit to ensure proper distribution of lubricationXE GBB maintenance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JPLe5R8-Ms
>>239671i've been playing with this gun for a bit and i have some mixed feelings on iti actually like the ergonomics overall, like the stock length is actually pretty much perfect for me as someone with long limbs. the gun tucks really well against my body while being very short and balanced, so i can also easily switch between 1 and 2-handed use. it kinda feels like firing a pistol with a stock on it, which is great for me. the grip is kind of ass because it has the dumb donut hole design instead of a pistol grip, but i've gotten used to it.the main downside of the ergonomics is the very elevated and bulky stock, which makes my current optic impossible to use until i get a riser, and the iron sights are essentially unusable. the gun feels good to keep nuzzled against my shoulder but the bulky stock makes it difficult to fire it outside that position (so cheeky corner peeks are not so easy). the gun's short length and grip configuration also makes point shooting in cqb a bit difficult, but maybe i can get used to iti think the main thing that bothers me about is that it just seems kinda rough internally. i haven't opened the gearbox yet but the spring is incredibly loud to the point that i may have to put sorbo on it. i believe it has a ported piston because the muzzle energy drops like crazy if i try to fire heavier BBs, so i have to replace that as well. the trigger was also atrocious, not because of the usual bullpup trigger bar thing (it doesn't have one), but because G&G apparently just can't get the tolerances of the trigger guide right. i filed the trigger parts so it's better now, but it's still not great. yeah i know there's the M-trigger but i'm still kinda miffed how much work the gun needs despite the higher price tag. who knows, maybe the FN Herstal license accounts for half the costi still like it but i wish i had bought an easier gun to work with while i work on my dumb DMR project
>>241552i forgot to mention but i do think the gun has a shit ton of potential despite my current issues with it. i absolutely love how easy it is to do stuff like field strip it, change the barrel and spring, and pull the gearbox out. the ability to quick adjust the spring tension pleases my autism too. it seems like a really cool gun to work on and experiment with. the silly bullpup configuration also provides a barrel that is pretty much at the exact perfect length for a full cylinder + 0.32g BBs. i assume it is extremely durable too, since it's entirely encased within in a big brick of G&G polymer. i like to trip and fall on top of it so this is goodi don't think there are that many guns that have this combination of advantages. i vaguely yearn for an L85A3 since it is an even sexier bullpup, but it seems to be largely unobtanium or behind a ludicrous price tag due to having to buy a conversion kit, so i shall refrain for now. i think G&G is also making one but i don't see it anywhere on sale yet
>>241472I genuinely don't understand the people that purchase like a billion different variants of this shit platform that all look the same. It's the most generic dogwater rifle imaginable but because they have shit like NYET RIFLE IS FINE/CHINESIUM ZENITCO MALLNINJA CONFIG versions they buy them from every brand and manufacturer possible for some godforsaken reason.
>>241472>>241554relax theyre both boring
>>241555What isn't boring then oh enlightened one
>>241556VFC M249 SAW machine gun GBBR
>>241557>THE most generic lmglollmaoYou're even more retarded than the retard seething about ARs.
>>241558m249 stopped being generic after the marines replaced it with an ar15 clone
>>241559Sure buddy, whatever let's you sleep at night.
>>228577>>228744What harness are you using? I have the HRT h harness and it loosens up on me when I wear it. Also need someone else to clip it on for me
Why is it so difficult to find a full metal GBB of this thing in the US? Almost makes it seem like Umarex doesn't have the licenses but surely that can't be the case since they do sell a crappy spring powered version over here to begin with.
>VFC AK74 and 5 mags is $1100Fucking why
>>241571gas users actually enjoy the humilitation
>>241564Idogear, just mind the buckles - they don;t really wanna cooperate with ones on the chestrig. You gotta make them fit and then still if you put enough weight into the rig they can randomly unclip - I had that happen literally the during milsim, now they are secured with zipties.I updated the rig since then, I'm happy with how it is now.
Has to be painted obviously but I like how it turned out. It's an AAP btw if it wasn't obvious.
>>241585Nice touch with the optic. Almost had me.
>>241587>Nice touch with the opticWym?
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>>241612Kek fuck that's embarrassing I just threw it on for the picture and Yea I didn't see that until now. I will now commit sudoku
>>241587/diy/chad with 4d eyes kek
>>241585Should have gone full Home Depot and made it look like the whole thing is made with PVC pipes. It's how doers get more done.
>>241585Kinda looks like a an AS VAL did what slavs do and raped an AR-15. 4/10, will probably have nightmares about.
>>241569Did you even look?https://www.proactstore.com/products/vfc-umarex-ppks-gbb-pistol-bk
>>241604>>241612>>241628idgi
>>241692oh backwards scope optic
What cool repro optic do I mount ontop of my LPVO
>>241699Holosun
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