Ajigawa senshuraku celebration edition>Banzuke:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspxhttps://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/>Fight Schedule & Results:https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/>Some sumo links and how to watch live:https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d>Oyakata channelhttps://www.youtube.com/@親方ちゃんねる公式/videos>Beya Youtube channels:>Futagoyamahttps://www.youtube.com/@futagoyama-sumofood>Isegahamahttps://www.youtube.com/@isegahamabeya>Kisehttps://www.youtube.com/@kisebeya>Tatsunamihttps://www.youtube.com/@tatsunami-beya>Tamanoihttps://www.youtube.com/@sumo-tamanoibeya>Hidenoyamahttps://www.youtube.com/@hidenoyama>Oshimahttps://www.youtube.com/@oshimabeya>Minatohttps://www.youtube.com/@湊部屋どすこいチャンネル>Shikoroyamahttps://www.youtube.com/@shikoroyamabeya>Asakayamahttps://www.youtube.com/@浅香山部屋公式チャンネル>Takasagohttps://www.youtube.com/@TAKASAGOSUMOTEAM高砂部屋Previous thread: >>232989
Fuck it, first for Churanoumi.
>>236174In theory a computerized system could be even better at accounting for strength of schedule because it could more easily account for not only the opponents' performance, but also the opponents' opponents performance, etc. recursively, however it could never account for the quality of wins, an authoritative win vs a close match is better judged by the pros' eye, so the theoretical computerized ranking system could never be perfect.
Real thread>>234480>>234480>>234480
>>236051The whole purpose of the sanyaku ranks is that it's their job to show everyone who is boss by smashing the joi. They did a great job of it last basho, all of them except Takayasu, who lost 60% of his bouts including half of those against M1 and below (and he only managed that good of a record because his last 3 matches against there were with guys who averaged out to double digit losses). Which is why keeping him in there is kind of a weird move. Its not like he is about to turn it around and suddenly start beating everyone, he will probably just put up a similar performance again. Maybe Oshoma will put up a great record and sanyaku will be expanded yet again and allow Takaysu to maintain komusubi west with a losing record again.
>>236172kys dan nigger.
>>236172the fuck is dis Asian tony soprano>where da fucks mai shi-magora?
>>236172Is that Dan's father?
>>237408Its Ukrainian Tony Soprano
>>236172>Zensho yusho? OWA HERE!!>Onosato zensho yusho, whatever happened there...
>>237654He is going to have to pull off some major upsets just to get to 7. Aside from sanyaku, Kinbozan owns him and Abi and Tamawashi won't let him get anywhere near their belts and Wakamotoharu is bigger than him and just as muscular. Dan's only real advantage is the element of surprise since he hasn't faced most of the opponents he will go up against. If he goes as good as 3-7 in the first 10 days he might still be able to make it to a senshuraku darwin match facing others with bad losing records over days 11-14.
>>236193>>236193>>236193This is the new thread you fucking morons it's been here for weeks
>>237657I can see Dan beating Onosato, Onosato likes to win at the rope with his backwards moving slapdowns and Dan is exceptionally resistant to slapdowns.
*sharts*
Anti-danners lostDan enjoyers won
>>237912d*n wins against an 8-7 tier fraudzuna and you start being a cock gobbler immediately.
>>237935Dan dominated the entirety of sanyaku. As things currently stand in the sport Dan now outranks everyone outside of Onosato in terms of ability.
>>238046Dan and Onosato both have the same record, but Onosato hasn't even faced any sanyaku yet.
>>238197He beat Oshoma on day 1.
>>237935>Horseryu>8-7 tier fraudzunaYou're giving him way too much credit. 3 bashoes as 'zuna, 2 MKs, average win total 6
Dan is winning this 'sho
>Tamawashi beat OnosatoHoly macaroni
>10-2>Yusho leadits absolutely happening, he has nobody left to challenge him but a bunch of low rankers who are way in over their heads and pretty much guaranteed to lose. aonishiki pretty much already has this one in the bag.
>Dan can still win!!!
Is mbovo kill? Just want to watch English commentary
>>238472>>238360lol. lmao
Dan is still shattering the record for fastest trip from maezumo to sanyaku by two bashoes and he will be making kwabs like this >>235893 look retarded for the next 15 or years
>>235884Aonishiki is a suicidal pick at this point; his record against sanyaku thus far has been pathetic and there's no reason that would change
>2 (two) Yokozuna>M15 Yusho
>>238625current state of sumo sadly
>>238618theres got to be dozens of posts in previous threads excitedly predicting Dan's impending embarrassment at the hands of the upper rankers.they were all wrong lol. its weird how so many ppl have a massive hate boner for Dan, why did Dan do to inspire that? are they angry at him because he is good at sumo? its weird.
>>238662wasn't it strange he took ozeki on the parade car instead of his bro? kinda lame
>>238692Propably had to do something with koenkai
>>238692bro was mk
>>238613I'm a fan of Dan II, but we've yet to see how he can handle his first major injury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nm5EhBSdr0
>>238867Is there any list that shows which wrestlers Takasu supports?
we would be so lost without YDC...nothttps://hochi.news/articles/20250728-OHT1T51228.html?page=1
>>238893>we promoted a guy who cannot put 2 yushos in a row and a one note pusher, now they're not performingI have no pity for the old fucks
eat
>dan's record vs sanyaku & joi: 11-2 OMG UTTER DOMINATION!!! YOKOZUNA TIER!!!>dan's record vs double digit maegashitters from the bottom end of the banzuke: 0-2sewer sucking suckage, total failure and sissy wimp weakling eggs plane this phenomenon
Does /sumo/ run this board or something?
>>238880here is the list:Dan
>>239012Theres also:Hoshoryu
>>238996>SAY!>MY!>NAME!
>>239027ELEVENFOUR
https://plus.nhk.jp/watch/st/g1_2025072830863?t=30&cid=newsoon-tw-250728-03
The banzuke committee meeting is over and jap media is now speculating about S2 slots being opened up for Takayasu and Dan. Did someone on the committee leak something to the media? I can see them wanting to expand sanyaku because that would cut down on the amount of potential kinboshi that could be given out.
>>238996Yeah, we might as well make it official at this point. I almost wish hemafags were more active. Almost.
>>239126>I can see them wanting to expand sanyaku because that would cut down on the amount of potential kinboshi that could be given out.I guarantee you that's not the case. The extra money for S2 paychecks for a single basho is worth like 10x more than a single kinboshi payout for a 20 year career.
>>239129its not about the money, the excess of kinboshi are an embarrassment to the yokozunas that were recently promoted. And its kinboshis seem worse in part because the new yokozunas are being compared to the hakuho era when when yokozunas were facing only 6 maegashiras per basho while the yokozunas today are going up against almost twice as many.
>>239027Bow to the Yokozuna, just like Dan did
>>239141Anyone complaining about Onosato is retarded given the performance Horseryu has been putting up.Its also worth noting that everyone who beat Dan ended up with double digit wins, so it takes an impressive power level to beat him.
>>238998quick and sloppy one for you anon :^)>>239008if I had a paypal / venmo/ whatever account without my legal name attached I might take you up on that. if the idea is funny enough I'll just do it
>>238996Basically yes. I'd be interested to see comparative population of the big generals but sumo is definetly on top.
>>239151yes because 4 kinboshi is less than 3, ok. Also pulling back like maegashira is really a display of a worthy yokozuna... Stop coping, it was shitty performance by onosato. His own oyakata said the same basically.
FINLAND MONGOLIA BROTHERHOOD
Still have 40+ posts until the image limit in the real thread >>236193
Sanyaku prediction>>Onosato YE.......Hoshoryu YWKotozakura OEWakatakawakakage SE......Kirishima SWTakayasu KE........Aonishiki KW
Otake stable's (Oho's home) next boss has been announced: Kumagatani (formerly Tamaasuka), to take over the stable and the name when the current Otake turns 65 in a couple months.
based wakamotoharu
>>239326this wakaman is going places, brother
>>239326Holy based
Kusano yusho and 2x kinboshi next tournamentYou heard it here first
>>239415>he thinks horseshit won't be kyujo by the time M7s with good records get around to being promoted up to sanyaku bouts
>>239157If you turn this image upside down it looks like he's suplexing him.
How common is it to consider ozeki promotion outside of the sanyaku ranks does Dan have a case?
>>239476Never happened, and never will happen.
>>239477Yeah retards on Reddit think he has a case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3STmt8L4s3wNow this is slop I can get behind ofGOCHANDESU
>>239476Takes 33 victories over 3 basho to earn ozeki, and while the upper maegashira victories count, after a good score he's usually promoted to komosubi, and then sekiwake after a good komosubi basho, so no, nobody gets promoted straight out of maegashira.
Will Kotoshoho do well enough in September to make it to joi rank for November or is he just another fluke winner who will never go anywhere like Takerufuji & Tokushoryu
>>239476Aonishiki’s 11-4 from M9 is far too low to start an ozeki run from. The lowest rank anyone started an ozeki run from this century was M3 (Tochinoshin, who scored a 14-1Y)Aonishiki’s 11-4 from M1 would be the first basho in his ozeki run if he kept putting in 11-4 results.
>>239499fluke, he got lucky with poor yokozunas, 1 ozeki who is apparently injured, sekiwake who had a fever in the last 5 matches etc etc.
>always movingmore like "always moving to Japan because Mongolia is a 3rd world dump that nobody wants to live in.
>>239529why'd they get roga to do this, he's from tuva
>>239543retard
shishi still hasn't learned how to use chopsticks. they put his chanko in big bowl on the floor and he eats it like a dog.
>>239548I want to believe this so I will
>>239548I cook for Ikazuchi and can confirm this is true. We also let Ikazuchido out to sit in the bushes were he eats leaves and bananas instead of chanko.
>>239544tuvan, while traditionally using adapted tradtional mongolian script, is a turkic language
>>239548>mfw today they cooked chanko made of pig ears and goat hooves in blood and they gave you a double portion
>>239499Teru is the only one in the past 50 years to have yusho'd at a low rank and then make KK in the subsequent basho.
>>239569the similarity with a pig is uncanny
>>239569>they gave you a double portion>ypeшiшi!
I'm still waiting for the newest scandal
>>239577fag
Imagine being a skinny Japanese woman who marries an ozeki because you want fame and glitter and then 5 years later you have to care for 10 adult babies who weigh 300lbs and stink up your house (which they call "Heya").
>>239599it reads like you were thinking of futagoyama okamisan
>Aonishiki carrying a shoulder injury since midway through the second week It begins…
>>239609
>>239609I figured this would happen, but that's even sooner than I thought. His wrestling style makes me concerned for his longevity.
>>239609>Aonishiki didn't win in July because he broke every bone and joint in his shoulder mid-basho>He still came close to winningHOLY KINO
>>238693
>>239613As he develops his skills and his body, he’ll learn to get the “easy” wins with a straightforward yorikiri, and keep his wrestling and judo techniques in reserve. He’ll have to because otherwise he’ll end up as one of those really skillful wrestlers who are always battling with a bunch of nagging injuries.
the KOGAuikan
ryogoku DANugikan
>>239739anti-danners hated this one
Predict kinboshi totals for next 'sho:How many does Onosato give up?How many does Horseryu give up?
>>239815I expect 2 from hosh and 1 from sato
>>239815Hosh will kyujo and Onosato will g 14-1, only losing to Aonishki.
>>2398154 each + kyujo on Onosato.
>>239739Maonishiki
>>239815>nooooo stop looking at my penis!!! >its too small!!!>I block your view with my foot!!!
>>239855>I didn't really lose, I just had a fever >I didn't really lose, I was injured >I didn't really lose, I just didn't practice enough>I didn't really lose, checks in the mail>I didn't really lose, I tripped and fell down>sorry I grabbed your topknot, but I didn't really losethese are the lamest excuses. if you don't keep your body in decent shape and then lose because of it that means you lost. if kiriSHITma has an AIDS tier immune system because he chose to take the vax then who's fault is that?
>>239866
>>239866>3rd worlders and accepting responsibility for their own actions
>>239529>mongolia>palestine flag>wan piss yukata on Tamashohoreddit
>>239898>palestine flagwhat do you think the next 'current thing' is going to be?
>>239900Something to do with Shishi becoming officially Russian once the border changes are made permanent. He is already genetically, ethnically & linguistically Russian, so the border changes make a lot of sense.
>>239907Remember when retards chimped out and got offended on Shishi's behalf when he and Roga first met. How dare the JSA pair up the "Ukrainian" with the "Russian", don't they know there's a war going on?!!
When Stalin drew the borders of modern Ukraine he included vast areas of territory which contained no ethnic Ukrainians in order to assure than the ethnic Ukrainians would never be a majority in their own homeland. Not only were Russians included, but also large Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, German & jewish regions were also included. They even moved the capital from Ukrainian Kiev to Russian Kharkiv. These are the borders that the people who call themselves Ukrainian are fighting to keep, its retarded.
>>239962No. Didn't happen.
>>239965No one asked.
>>239962No, I don't remember that at all.
this ceremony will be held in london in october.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDRnztP8wdk
>>239962>shit that never happened
>>239962you are clearly a redditor, you deserve to read stupid shit for browsing that shithole.
What possible reason could there be for futagoyama not showing any of Mita's practice bouts? It's been like a year since he started showing up in videos, it can't be because they want to hide some secret tachiai tricks or anything like that.>>239962Why is a The Ukrainian angrily samefagging at you so much? I saw many japanese make weepy retarded comments about how nice roga was for looking ashamed when he won, lmao. As much as I like Japan, they're no exception to the rule of most people being dumb normalfags.
You're fucking retarded, mate.
>>240023he does look extremely yellow, i hope it's just lighting and not some jaundice or other sickness
>>240026at least he isn't wearing a bunch of gay jewelry like hakuho
>>240028*tips fedora*
>>240023>>240026I was gonna point out the same, he looks kinda unhealthy and I mean, it's not like he was the healthiest man back when he was a lardball but he didn't have this yellowish tone on his skin. What the fuck is he eating to lose so much weight? is he even eating at all?
>>240066The man sitting behind Hakuho is not that far off from Keisho. It's probably just a case of poor lighting and color balance.
>>240066Maybe that's just what it looks like when he tans.
>>240026azns are revolting, his head looks like those ugly jap festival masks were modeled on him
Horseryu doing well in (((practice bouts))) again so expect another disaster basho from himhttps://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/08/11/kiji/20250811s00005000236000c.html
>>240066>What the fuck is he eating to lose so much weight?Normal human portions. He had to force himself to eat sumo portions when he was competing to keep weight on.
>>240109As long as he doesn't exert himself too much and chip his glass bones he should be fine in next basho
>>240109pre-emptive fell for it again award
>>240109useless articles. if he would fart, they would write about it. he confirmed a few times that doing good in practice doesn't mean shit when it comes to basho
>3 of the guys being promoted to Juryo are from Takasoga-beyaWhat the fuck are they feeding them over there?
>>240148Sand.
>>240131He still ended up cooking with that rusty pan even after inspecting it.
What records would our 'zunas need to not be disappointing next basho? I'd say 11-4 from 'sato and 12-3 from Nephew. We can't realistically expect Onosato to win every other basho.
>>240165>We can't realistically expect Onosato to win every other basho.why not? thats been his pattern so far
>>240165I think realistically it also depends on who they lose to and who ends up contending the cup. Giving out 4 kinboshi and letting an M15 take the cup is part of why last basho people were disappointed at Onosato.
>>240165max 1 kinboshi, shit happens. record at least 11-4, 10-5 already feels wrong.
>>240165both at least 12-3 with a playoff between them
Are sumo's drug tested for PEDs?
>>240178No, and I don't care. Please take all the PEDs if it improves your sumo
>>240178Yes, but they are only disciplined for narcotics.
>>240178Yes, you get a reprimand if your intake is insufficient based on your rank
>>240168If he doesn't win next time people will start to say things like "Is Onosato injured?" and "whats wrong with Onosato?" because everyone expects him to win every basho. He was 5:2 to win last time, over 40% of all money wagered was on him to win.
>>240193>over 40% of all money wagered was on him to winWhere?
>>240178>Is this baka serious?
>>240178Yes. Any sekitori not on PEDs is suspended for not taking their performance seriously.
are there any PEDs that can help you skip leg dayasking for a tomodachi
>>240201Heroin
>Why did you retire, Yokozuna Kisenosato?I tore my pectoral striving to reach and maintain Yokozuna dignity after a decade of being faced with the ultimate challenge in Hakuho.>Why did you retire, Yokozuna Terunofuji?My knees had nothing left to give after I came back from career-ending injuries at Ozeki to make Yokozuna in a legendary final bout against Hakuho.>Why did you retire, Yokozuna Hoshoryu?I hurt my toe :'(
>>240204>Why did you retire, Yokozuna Onosato?That ass had 'bottle of sake' written all over it.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZX9QquJkdPsCHAT IS THIS REAL???
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/08/15/kiji/20250815s00005000082000c.htmlJapan humiliated - foreigner wins Japanese university sumo championship
>>240131Kyoda seems like a moron even for a rikishi ngl, surely there was someone more suited for that hanchou position
>>240344They call him sensei. The bar is not high.
>>240332Mongolian menace never ends
>>240332>リ・ビル・クリストファーis that some kinda pinoy haafu as the runner up?
>>240352Hell if I know, but he graduated high school in Kanagawa.
God I love watching fatsos slap each other. I missed Daieisho in July :(
22 year old mong with a forged birth certificate wins Jap high school championship https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/08/16/kiji/20250816s00005000117000c.html
The new kokugikan should have entrances like this but the pillars should be modeled on Abi's shiko, while the doors themselves should be modeled on Abi's henka
>>240654>The new kokugikan should have entrances like this but the pillars should be modeled on Abi's shikok1no....
your reaction in this situation?
>>240752
>>240752Lick his palm maybe give him the ick to let go
>>240752>pull>lose
Horseryu beat Onosato 6-4 in practice matcheshttps://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/08/23/kiji/20250823s00005000313000c.html
>>240870This time for sure
left: wakatakaKOGA when he chokes like a bitch sissy and doesn't make ozekiright: daiseizan when he wins juryo and gets promoted
Takerufuji can't work out his upper body currently due to his injury. So now he can only put his enthusiasm for body building into his lower body. Post your yfw when The Taker discovers leg day and shows up at Aki with massive legs and a puny upper body.
Dan no longer has a neck
>>240955>picchink shills are insane lmao
>>241053I don't think nodowa was one of his weaknesses but good for him?
Ikazuchido in about 5 years
Can't be. He's not wearing his tsuna.
Zak looking strong from what I saw on twitter
>>241117he still has a bad back, expect 8-7
>>241126Fighters his caliber shouldn’t be forced to go in it’s obvious he’s in just and he could used the whole two and a half months worth of rest his position has. Needing a doctor to say you’re injured is stupid but heal on the dohyo ig.
>>241132holy jeet babble
>>241135Sybau
Hoshoryu injured again Lamehorseruy
>>241155You'd think having two yokozuna would mean one could dip out of the regional tours to get proper medical treatment, but no.
>as Ozeki, Zak has handed out an average of 2.8 ginboshi per bashIs this normal?
Wake up babe the new clown basho is starting.
>>241159That's not and never will be a thing.
>>241155His entire career is gonna be like this. Either he's overeager after a bad basho so he overtrains and injures himself or he just sucks and keeps coming up with injuries to cover it up. Either way, it's too obvious a pattern at this point.>>241156The whole point of having two is so they can face each other. Now, if we had three, maybe then one could sit out.>>241161At this point it seems more likely than Hosh winning another one. My pick would still be Daieisho (assuming Onosato is still napping).
>>241166>Onosato wins 3 out of the last 5 basho, ropes, then has the audacity to _only_ go 11-4JY and be a single win against Kotoshoho from making a playoff and likely winning iturgh why is onosato napping oommmgggg
>>241171one kinboshi has been deposited into your account
https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2ABz8qgNGet your votes in on whether Hoshoryu will kyujo.
>>241171>11-4JYEvery single one of his losses are kinboshi.>a single win against Kotoshoho from making a playoff and likely winning itLol, have you seen his record against Kotoshoho?
>>2411752-2 at the time and they hadn't fought for 4 basho while Onosato had been improving at a crazy rate the whole time? Only a fucking dip would've put Kotoshoho to win that.
>my YokozunaGoing 11-4, a respectable record despite the post-promotion slump, set to dominate in the years to come>your YokozunaChoked 4 matches to shitters and printed multiple kinboshi like a fucking retardKnow the difference
>>241178Both of our Yokozuna are Onosato???
>>241180The People's Yokozuna
Horseshitryu will be taped up and faking an injury in every basho from here on out until he manages to put up a good score and validate his yokozuna promotion, if he ever does, which is a questionable probability since he only has two career yushos
>>241176Yet he won the same way he won in juryo.
>>241190Kakuryu ended up with 6 and he didn't win his second until he had been Yokozuna for a year and a half. There's time.
>>241196Horse is on pace to pull down #6 in 2033
>>241155Will this loser ever complete a basho as yokozuna. Kick this mongolian menace out before its too late.
>>241214He already has, dummy.
>>241215That one doesnt count.
>>241190>>241196All the wrestlers who got promoted with a yusho-equivalent inevitably got 2 in a row to justify their promotion. It took Kakuryu 3 years since yokozuna promotion to win 2 in a row. If Hoshoryu doesn't beat or match that, he's officially fraudkuzuna.
Hoshoryu going 12-3 while wiping his taint on Onosato's rope yusho was a great showing.
>>241220Agreed.
Aki basho in the big 2025How did Hoshoryu do at Aki in 2024?>8-7How did Zak do?>8-7What about Onosato?13-2 yusho
I miss Takakeisho...
>>241247Me too. Say what you want but the man was able to consistently put up good results, was exciting to watch and had his own brand of sumo.
>>241249>consistentlylol
>>241250More consistent than the vast majority of the current rikishi, one Yokozuna included.
>>241251This is an insane level of reality denial.
>>241251Nope he kyujo'd every other basho lol, but yeah he delivered whenever he actually fought.
>>241248>AIEEE DONT GET TO MY MAWASHI HAKUHO-SAMA
>>241248Imagine the balls on Hakuho to be able to confidently just stand and wait for someone the size of Takakeisho to charge while basically announcing your intention to catch them.
>>241249there was something uniquely entertaining about seeing him blast dudes with those t-rex arms
>>241248>Hakuho casually walks him out with barely any forceso what was Keisho's problem? was his pushing too weak? was Hakuho too strong? After Keisho's weight loss seems to me like he was mostly just lard with very little muscle underneath.
>>241248Tough to go up against a yokozuna because if you slap the shit out of him, or make him your bitch, he'll just show up at your beya for "training" after the basho and make your life absolutely miserable for revenge.
>>241269oh no hoshoryu please dont show up at my beya haha oh noooo your hurt your shoulder in practice bouts noooo hahaha
>>24126650% of his wins were oshidashi. You don't get that by just being a lard. You can even see how big his legs were in this clip
>>241266>so what was Keisho's problem?1) Neck injury2) He was too large to fight for very longIf the fight went over 5 seconds he lost more and more power to exhaustion.
>>241266I believe that post-weight loss, Takakeisho still weighs over 100kg. He hasn't posted any shirtless pictures yet, as far as I know, which makes it hard to judge how muscular he really is, but he's by no means small or scrawny with the fat removed.
>>241282>He hasn't posted any shirtless pictures yetI believe there was a picture of him in a mawashi, it was posted somewhere in these threads but I couldn't find it.
>>241266>was his pushing too weak? Yes.>was Hakuho too strong?Yes.Notice how Hakuho keeps slapping him around like a bitch? He's doing that so keisho can't close and thrust against him. Hakuho could use his reach to keep thrusters out of range to tire them out and frustrate them into making mistakes. Then, once they're worn down a bit, he grabs the belt and it's fucking game over.
>>241282>>241287All that loose skin must be pretty gross looking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7jMciFBG0E&ab_channel=TheTatsunamiStable-SumoFoodsGet your fresh Tatsunami BBQ sloppa.
>>241321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvFMHdmkjrM&ab_channel=ChrisSumoHoshoryu's shoulder doesn't seem to be bothering him all that much, he did a ton of bouts against WTK and won most.
>>241327The Hoshoryu Cycle>Perform well in practice against top rankers>Get over confident>Job to lower Maegashira because he's not prepared>Pull out to avoid giving out Kinboshi>Never actually fight the people he knows how to fightIt sucks too because I really like Hosh and I hate to see him flounder like this
>>241326The fuck was the Blob's power anyway? Wasn't he basically just a carbon copy of the Juggernaut?
>>241331Strength, resistance to injury, and a personal gravitational field that makes him impossible to move.He’s like the opposite of the Juggernaut, who was impossible to stop once he started moving.
Joining a fan club should give you access to Okami-san ASMR.>Oooohhhh Eimi-chan scratch my ears while whispering into them uuunnggghhhh
Takerufuji when he comes back from his kyujo
>>241353needs one of the arms to be completely atrophied
>>241353He turns into a hobbit?>I don't think there's gonna be a return yusho Mister Teru
Teru looked like shit in the recent Iseghama training video. Showed up unwashed, unshaved and with messed up hair looking hung over in a dirty old white t-shirt and sat down like useless blob. zero hinkaku
>>241356Hinkaku is for *active* Yokozuna.
Latest Futagoyama slop was pretty bad. There wasn't even any training, it was just Denuma cooking some pretty awful looking food and then eating.>Microwaved potato chunks with fried spamWhat a delectable delight. Why do they let Denuma cook? Were they just low on ingredients?
>>241358>rubs off the sweat from his forehead with his hands>proceeds to grab a handful of onionsshit is fucking disgusting, whoever watches this crap should be ashamed.
>>241359There isn't really anyone at Futagoyama with the bantz of Syunrai and Okaryu to carry it either since Babutame is apparently just fucking dead. Still waiting for the day when Roga does jack shit in a beyaslop video. I'm starting to think he just has terrible Japanese so they don't like featuring him. Even Meisei gets a look in with Tatsunami's content.I'd rather they didn't put out sloppa than put out sloppa of this quality.
>>241358Souga or Kyoda are even worse though. The previous vid with Denuma cooking was fine. The dude at least thinks about what he wants to cook and experiments. Those two fucks are just plain bad. They should be peeling potatoes and garlic for their whole life.
What would you cook if you were at a beya? I wouldn't make anything that looks like soup because fuck that gay shit. I'd be all about udon with fried vegetables and meat.
>>241365If you're at a heya then you don't have a choice, you make what they tell you to make or get golf clubs to the skull
>>241366I guarantee you no one told Denuma to cook microwaved potato chunks with spam. That shit looked so bad I thought it was British.
>>241366Nope. The master and the sekitori can "hint" at food they want to eat, and they'll certainly get it, but for the most part in Futagoyama, the leader of the chanko shift has free reign to make whatever he likes with the ingredients on hand. However, it's not really "whatever he likes" and more "whatever he can" - the Futagoyama boys are all very young and none of them are accomplished or adventurous chefs. If you've just done your morning keiko and you've got an hour to make enough food to feed twenty fat fucks, you're going to fall back on simple, basic meals a lot. It'll be much better when one of the boys turns into a full-time cook due to chronic injury and reluctance to retire, like Kokuryunami at Tatsunami, because he'll have more time and feel more pressure to "earn his keep".
>>241368What happens to the eternal jd guys when they intai? I could see a guy like Kokuryunami opening a restaurant since he is pretty known from the sloppa videos but there are hundreds of guys like him.
>Futagoyama needs a young crippled rikishi to take over cooking dutiesNABATAMESISTERS???
>>241370
>>241358>>241359>>241367
>>241362>I'm starting to think he just has terrible JapaneseIt's definitely part of it, he speaks uncomfortably and didn't know what the word 由来 meant when Sakagami asked him where his shikona comes from. He also just seems like a not very talkative guy in general, so maybe that's part of it too.
>>241367They call it German Potato and they've made it many times in their videos. I seriously doubt any of them dislike it.
>>241444>Moves to Japan for the culture>Can't speak the language>Awkward as fuckIs Roga /our rikishi/?
Koga's face pisses me off so I'm glad we're seeing Kikuchi kick his ass in the training portions of the videos now.
>>241448(You)
>>241448They look evenly matched to me.
>>241450Yeah, but last time I watched Kikuchi was only winning every once in a while, so it feels like good progress.
>>241445Just got to the cooking part of today's video and Kyoda is making it too kek
>>241448This is a pro-Koga board. Say sorry, and like Koga himself, we will be kind and gracious in forgiving you.
>>241462Best I can do is refrain from wishing a life-altering injury on him. A career-ending one would probably benefit him in the long run though.
>>241464What you want is irrelevant. Either say sorry or you'll get a very Japanese sounding knock on your door at 2am :)
BANZUKE TOMORROW BROSARE YOU READY FOR EVERY PREDICTOR TO GET IT WRONGARE YOU READY FOR STABLEMASTERS TO OPEN SO YOU CAN PROVE HOW MUCH SMARTER YOU ARE THAN EVERYONE ELSE???
FUCK YESNONE OF THE INFLUENCERS THINKS SHISHI WILL GET TO STAYI THINK THEY'LL BUMP HIM OFF
>>241476what I wonder more about is where will they put Daieisho and whether there will be more than 2 Komusubi.
>>241476its out lol, he is still in>>241477daieisho at 10 east
Seems like I'll get the manletbowl I wanted.
>>241482Daieisho JY by just farming them during the first week lol
Whoops, didn't even fucking crop it right.
>>241485>manletbowl>kinbozan
>Onosato vs Dan day 1My zabuton is ready.
>>241500>SAY!>MY!>NAME!
>>241505he just broke asashoryu's record for fastest trip from maezumo to sanyaku. all the vocal anti-dan posters here must be absolutely seething
>>241509I don't think people feel that strongly about Dan as a rikishi, they just think the danposters are obnoxious faggots, which is true
>>241476>INFLUENCERSlmao, Shishi stays because so many above him did horrendously.
>Y1e OnosatoIt's finally here. The moment he's been destined for ever since entering Ozumo; being officially the #1 in all Japan.
>Daieisho only demoted to M10eEvery single guess the banzuke entrant just got shit all over. I knew they were gonna give Daieisho preferential treatment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=650m0gN0gH8&ab_channel=SumoSpiffy%27sBar%26GrillLmao that Kinbozo rant.
>>241545You guys laughed when Dan was cruising mid basho and people started posting>what about Kinbozo thoughbecause he had yet to fight him. Now JSA is laughing at you by posting>what about Kinbozo thoughin their banzuke
shishibros we eating good
>>241528>I don't think people feel that strongly about Dan as a rikishitheres tons of anti-dan posts in the sumo threads on this board, they're all singles too. anti-dan posters never get doubles
>>241576You're confusing "anti-dan" posters with anti-"danposters." There's a massive difference.
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/09/01/kiji/20250901s00005000223000c.html>Dan's promotion to shin sanyaku in only 12 tournaments from his debut is the quickest for a non-tsukedashi wrestler since the introduction of the six-tournament system in 1958, breaking the previous 14 tournament record held by Konishiki, Asashoryu, and Kotoshogiku.He didn't just break the record, he shattered it
>Keeps posting SAY MY NAME>Refuses to actually say his name (Aonishiki)
>>241577danposting wouldn't irritate you so badly if you weren't an anti-danner. dan enjoyers also enjoy seeing danposting. hope you enjoy your next decade and half or so of continual anger and frustration at seeing dan win, the rest of us will be here enjoying dan's exemplary sumo
>>241546No anon you don't understand Dan is weak against thrusters and while Daieisho and Onosato are obviously above him Kinbozan is still more than good enough to blow Dan away.
The only reason Danposting pissed people off because it was obvious dickriding on the fact that he was Ukrainian. Same reason anyone ever cared about Shishi. Now that Dan's proven himself I'm fine with him being posted, though nonstop posting is obvious trolling thus annoying.
>>241588I just think that being devoted to a particular rikishi is stupid and pointless. In ten years time the top division will look completely different. I'm a fan of sumo in general, I will watch and enjoy it regardless of who occupies those top spots, just as I watched and enjoyed it ten years ago. Dan will come and go like hundreds of men have done before him - why get attached to him?
>>241601>In ten years time the top division will look completely differentI'm genuinely interested in what will finally take the Ageless One down.
banzuke is up on sumodb now too
>>241602realization that if you don't start your own stable by 45 then there is almost no possibility you'll have anyone to inherit it when you turn 65. he is already cutting it close. he got Japanese citizenship, so he clearly plans on staying in the JSA post intai.
Alright gaylords here we go.>OnosatoAnyone not picking him is a dumbass.>Wakatakakage11 wins nets him Ozeki and it's probably the last chance he'll ever get, the guy's gonna be fighting like a wild animal.>OhoI believe.>DaieishoThis nigga? At M10? Lmao free real estate, his injury had nothing to do with how he fights so he's just gonna go around breaking people's jaws.>AsakoryuAll the low Maegashira picks suck this time around, but Asakoryu has looked super driven lately.>IchiyamamotoM5w puts him outside the joi for the most part (Waka- joi includes him, Koto- joi includes him), so if he can fight like he did last basho he'll put in good work.>KusanoIs probably gonna keep on bopping people.
>>241588I've been one of the many enthusiastic Danposters and I have no interest in him attributable to the war, you're just projecting your own obsession with politics and /pol/ onto everything else you see, I don't even look at any boards other than spee and excess. I like Dan because he is a phenomenal wrestler, he has everything, and is exciting to watch. You see a lot of posters complaining about flowcharters being boring and predictable while Dan has as deep a bag as it gets, Mainoumi 2.0 and way stronger as well. Anti-Dans are sick in the head
>>241616>>Wakatakakage>11 wins nets him Ozeki and it's probably the last chance he'll ever get, the guy's gonna be fighting like a wild animal.Yeah but on the other hand you could bet on the guarantee of >Dan "11-4 is what I'm going for" Aonishiki
>>241618Dan's gonna be held back by people knowing how he fights now. Last basho he had the element of surprise, but no more. I can see an 8-7 for him. One of his wins in July was over an injured Hoshoryu, who if not injured this time around will brutalise Dan.
>>241618i think he had gotten lucky with the sanyaku bouts and will probably finish 8-7
>>241619>>241620See I said the same thing two months ago. But now I believe in meme magic and an Ozeki run on nothing but 11-4 finishes. Then he can start dropping 8-7s
>>241622>an Ozeki run on nothing but 11-4 finishes. Then he can start dropping 8-7s
>>241622Dan will make yokozuna on back to back 11-4 Y
>>241616>DaieishoA lot of people seem to be taking it as a given that his injury is completely healed, it isn't. He skipped the tour completely, if he competes at Aki it won't be at full power
>>241625I think it's more likely that Daieisho is just exercising "common sense" and not risking aggravating his injury for no reason on the tour. I know we're all used to watching Hoshoryu make things worse but not everyone is that desperate to prove themselves.
Aonishiki is going to be in a similar situation as in July, he'll get all his sanyaku matches out of the way early and if he does well he'll be put into the position of facing any lower ranking yusho competitors. Tough schedule, if he manages to put up dubs again he will have earned it
>>241602BASED Tamawashi will probably do the old school intai as soon as, IF, he gets dropped from Makuchi.
>>241626Daieisho doesn't have a history of skipping out for insignificant reasons, sitting out in July was a disaster for his ozeki hopes, he'd have been way better off even if he had been able to put up a weak performance and only drop to joi level. If he got hurt enough to sit out it was something that might've been bad enough to prevent him from performing at full Daieisho power in September too. We'll see in the first few days if he is blasting opponents out with his characteristic approach or trying to win with slap downs or other techniques that keep the strain off his legs
>>241500Komusubi don't get kinboshi
>>241368>If you've just done your morning keiko and you've got an hour to make enough foodChanko detail usually skips morning keiko, depending on the size of the beya, in order to focus on meal preparation for the rest of the boys.
>>241630>sitting out in July was a disaster for his ozeki hopesFighting would've been too. Difference is that now he can fight in September.
>>241578>didn't just break the record, he shattered itGood on em'. Good on Aminishiki for training and guiding him too.
>>241618>>11 wins nets him OzekiI hope that motherfucker finally lands it and has better luck than Mitakeumi at keeping it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SumoMemes/comments/1n5q79x/wakamotoharu_and_ichiyamamoto_teasing_kotozakura/Yes, I know, R*ddit, but lmao Zak getting roasted.
>>241637
>>241631people used to throws zabutons for a sekiwake beating Hakuho or Asashoryu.
the biggest shitpost would be throwing one when Onosato beats a maegashira
>>241644People used to throw zabuton for ozeki beating Hakuho in his prime. Now barely any zabuton for a kinboshi on Hoshoryu or Onosato. Pretty sad.
>>241637Jungyo antics are always great
>>241617STOP POSTING THAT FUCKING FAGGOT
>>241626Common sense is in short supply among top level rikishi, they much prefer fighting spirit. If they had too much common sense, they would be hanging around in sandanme.>>241627He's going to he in the sanyaku now and will be fighting other (below yokozuna) sanyaku later.>>24160290% chance he over does it in training and slips a disk or something>>241644Onosato is not either of those two. He has potential to become of that level, but potential is just that.
>>241659>Onosato is not either of those two.Hakuho won about 40% of the yushos during his tenure in makuuchi and Onosato has about the same win rate. The only reason you say Onosato isn't either of those two is because he hasn't been around long enough to match those two's totals yet, there is no reason to expect that Onosato won't eventually be in their range. If he improves as he gets closer to 30 then he may even outstrip them.
>>241665Even if he manages to stay on those numbers Onosato has no right to be put together with those two. He's the king of forward stomping mediocre rikishi in a sumo era with an otherwise non existent sanyaku.
>>241668Onosucko should be demoted to toilet cleaning duties. 4 kinboshi is embarrassing. Letting a lifelong maegashitter yusho is embarrassing. Making your juniors drink with their ass is embarrassing. Get this clown out of here.
>>241668he wins, thats the only thing that matters. nobody cares if you find his style of sumo upsetting.
>>241674
>>241676Me on the right.
Elbow shots really should be against the rules. This ain't fucking MMA and that ain't a kimarite.
>>241665>The only reason you say Onosato isn't either of those two is because he hasn't been around long enough to match those two's totals yetYeah, I just said he has potential, what did you think I meant by that? You can't compare a guy with all time greats when he's been around for 2 years at the top. His sumo needs to develop as well because those 2 were far better wrestlers then he currently is. Your 40% yusho rate for Hakuho is reductive and misleading. That's dragged down by the last 5 years of his career where he was absent all the time. He had 42 yusho out of 84 as yokozuna (50%). If you just remove the ones he went kyujo, it skyrockets to 42 out of 65 (64.6%).
>>241358meanwhile Tatsunami has Kakuryunami fileting fish and cooking delicious porkevery stable should have a guy like himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ysFC17I7yM
>>241680Kachiage is valid tactic, Hakuho just aimed them at his opponents face rather than on their chest to push them upright
>Hoshoryu met TrumpBased
>so who is this guy? some important guy's son?
>>241703Oh it was his retarded son and not Trump himself
>>241682>he has potentialhe is already a yokozuna with 4 championships under his belt and pretty much nobody standing in his way for more, only thing that can stop him is an injury. kusano has potential
>>241708Saying Onosato is guaranteed to up there with Hakuho and Asashoryu is ridiculous. You have no idea what the future holds. You can't fucking sleepwalk your way to back to back zensho or winning 7 yusho in a row, he has to put in work to get better and stay ahead of his peers and figure out what to do when walking forward doesn't finish the match.
>>241704hoshoryu's face lookin like he just had the same realisation
Humiliation Ritual
>>241703Hoshoryu and everyone else from Tatsunami are cursed for all time for letting that faggot even step one toe into the ring.
>>241710Hosh's face is saying "I'm an immigrant feeling ashamed of myself and uncomfortable standing next to the anti-immigration guy".Whats that going on behind them, making a new tsuna or and epic ramen lunch?
>>241709>figure out what to do when walking forward doesn't finish the matchUhhh anon? It's called a 'hatakikomi' ;)
>>241674>I only care about winningyou're the lowest kind of sumo fan.
Reminder that we're 3 basho away from Yokozuna Wakatakakage.
Realistically what COULD Onosato do once his opponent stops going backwards? Is he tall enough to pull a Hokuseiho and just lean his opponent to death? At 190kg it definitely won't take nearly as long.
>>241719>starts going backwards himself
>>241718Wakatakakage will fail and the 12 win 'sho will fall out of his 3 basho history and he will have to start all over again. There are just too many tough matchups for him to make 11 wins.
>>241719Onosato's opponents shouldn't stop going backwards, and he has no excuse for letting them do so. Never mind figuring out what to do when it happens, he needs to stop letting it happen.
>>241725>bro is cooked!! >HE IS COOKED BRO!
>>241711edging handjobs from hello kitty
my mfw when future ozeki vs my mfw when former ozeki
>>241711standing next to hoshoryu is NOT humiliating and it's actually AN HONOR
>>241716Yes, he ran backwards and got his ass slapped down outside the dohyo 3 times :^) (other time he got dumped by a man older than his master)
>>241739Never underestimate old man strength.
>>241578I am glad he was able to grab at least the one kinboshi before he got promoted, that must have been fun for him.
I have a grip strength of 60 kilos, I am sumo tier
>>241725There's a decent chance they give it to him on 32 wins, but they'll make sure he knows the decision wasn't unanimous.
>>241743I once managed a one minute deadhang on one arm, I believe I weighed 77kg at the time.
>>241713ywnbaw
>>241746what's xis/xer shikona?
>>241750大把山
>>241737
>>241738kek
>>241711Our yokozuna looks like a nerd
>Atamifuji is now heavier than OnosatoSAKESISTERS???
>>241777Who's tits are hanging lowest at this point. Keisho's or Big Dan's?
>>241714Hosh doesn't seem like a faggot so I don't think that's what he's thinking.
>>241714They are already making tsuna for the 76th Yokozuna Shunrai Shoma
>>241725Onosato - loseHosh - maybeZak - winKiri - winTakayasu - maybeDan - winTamawashi - winAbi - maybeHakuoho - winOho - winAtamifuji - winGonoyama - winHiradoumi - winKotoshoho - loseIchiyamamoto - maybeI only count 2 matchups he will definitely lose, what are his other bad matchups?
>>241803>Dan - win
Now that the banzuke is out, any out-of-pocket predictions?
>>241811Dan gets 10 wins, but one of his losses is controversial
>>241811Shishi 10-5, I will not elaborate
>>241813Aonishiki mysteriously goes kyujo on the first day, followed by a noticeable improvement in Shishi's skills
>Shishi M18>M18Miracles DO happen from time to time...
>>241814they merge, form aonishishiki and win the 'sho 30-0
>>241818Incensed at Aonishishiki's victory, Hoshoryu, Kirishima, Tamawashi, Onokatsu, and Oshoma fuse together into a Mongolzord in the hopes of proving Mongolian supremacy in the november tournament, the ensuing clash destroys the Fukuoka Kokusai Center
>>241803he has a career losing record against kiriSHITma and only beat him in July because he was incapacitated with a high fever, wakatakaKOGA will be facing all 5 he lost to in July plus possibly a healthy horseshit
>>241809He was still suffering from food poisoning>>241821>careerHe won the last 3, he has Kirishima downloaded.
>>241803Why are people suddenly acting like Kotoshoho is an Ozeki?
>>241826I grabbed everyone from the top of the banzuke, excluding Wakamotoharu since they're stablemates.Kage has not beaten Kotoshoho even when he was an injured mess, so he probably can't beat him now when he is at the top of his game.
14 wins against Meisei and co, shoulder is "fine". Is this it Hoshoryu bros ? yusho in the bag ?https://x.com/italianozeki/status/1963570098763141509
Taker is out, his arm is still too gay and he is heading back to juryo
>>241838>dan's honest reaction to noticing how small his legs are
>>241837he already demonstrated that even at his healthiest he is 2nd best to onosato
>>241823>Nooo he had a boo boo to his tum tumDan will beat ichiyamamotos boyfriend in convincing fashion.
>>241703>>241704Meeting with the retarded son of Bibi and Epstein's top guy, not a good look. Cringe humiliation ritual.>>241711This extremely BASED though.
Investing in Zakcoin Zak is back and he's going to win it
>>241845Wait for November pls thks
>>241837Even you could win against Meisei
>>241834The sample size is laughable. They haven't faced each other for a year lmao.
I'm all ready for fantasy sumo!
>>241846>Zak inexplicably crushes every November basho 14-1
>>241862>>241862>>241862Move over.
>>241859are signups broken on there atm?
>>241859takerufuji is out btw
>>241869I don't think he was serious, Anon.
>>241863How about we actually wait for this dead board to kill off the other 5 threads first?
>>241873You guys didnt want to fill out image limits so this is the new standardDon't like it? Too bad. Actions have consequences.
>>241871im dumb
>>241858>the data doesn't conform with my beliefs therefore its wrong
>>241883that isn't what happened
>>241883>>241863unironically, kill yourself. Dumb faggot.
Sumo Stable Power Rankings updated for Aki 20251. Isegahama - 5 maegashira, 2 juryo, 4 makushita joi 2. Kise - 3 maegashira, 2 juryo, 2 makushita joi 3. Nishonoseki - 1 dai yokozuna, 1 shirokuma4. Sadogatake - 1 ozeki, 1 defending champion, 1 juryo, 1 makushita joi5. Tatsunami - 1 yokozuna, Meisei, Akua & 2 others in makushita joi6. Oitekaze 3 maegashira, 2 juryo, makushita 1e7. Arashio - 1 sekiwake, 1 maegashira, juryo 1e plus another in juryo8. Sakaigawa - 2 maegashira, juryo 14w9. Ajigawa - 1 komusubi10. Naruto - 1 maegashira, 1 juryo, 1 makushita joi11. Tokitsukaze - 2 maegashira, 2 juryo, 1 makushita joi 12. Takadagawa - 2 maegashira, 2 makushita joi13. Nakamura - 1 maegashira, 2 juryo14. Isenoumi - 2 maegashira, 1 makushita joi 15. Kataonami - maegashira 1e, 1 juryo16. Futagoyama - 1 maegashira, 1 juryo, 1 makushita joi no-show cripple 17. Otowayama - KiriSHITma18. Tagonoura - Takayasu19. Otake - 1 maegashira, 1 makushita joi20. Takasago - 1 maegashira, 3 juryo21. Shikoroyama - Abi22. Tokiwayama - 1 maegashira, 2 makushita joi23. Takekuma - Gonoyama24. Hanaregoma - Ichiyamamoto25. Onomatsu - Onokatsu26. Ikazuchi - Shishi27. Dewanoumi - 1 maegashira, 1 makushita joi28. Tamanoi - 2 juryo, 1 makushita joi29. Fujishima - 1 juryo, 2 makushita joi30. Kokonoe - Chiyoshoma & Chiyomaru31. Kasugano - Meanface & Tochimusashi32. Oshiogawa - 1 juryo33. Oshima - 1 makushita joi34. Hakkaku - 1 makushita joi35. Nishikido - 1 makushita joi36. Onoe - 1 makushita joiAnyone who wishes to dispute the rankings or congratulate and thank me for all of my hard work in compiling these is welcome to reply to this post. There has been substantial movement since the previous rankings came out a couple months ago, but gang Isegahama remains on top.
new ep of Doki Doki Sumo Salon has been dubbedhttps://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/5001479/
>>241904that kisenosato reaction circle
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2025/09/05/kiji/20250905s00005000190000c.html>horse good in practice, onosato mediocre everyone knows what this means by now
>>241934onosato was only joking around, he was 12-3 against zak today
Do any of you guys actually compete in sumo?
>>241987No. I don't have a bike.
>>241990Its a pretty fun sport for what its worth i'd definitely recommend getting involved if you have a club local to you.
Has anyone tried Shiko stomps in their gym routine? I know it's not a replacement for barbell squats in terms of building muscle but I'm considering adding it to my routine.
>>242019>I know it's not a replacement for barbell squats in terms of building muscleits different because it isolates each leg/foot. seems to be more of a foot/ankle and balance exercise than a squats substitute. try holding the position for as long as you can
>>242021Is there a difference between doing it arms crossed or hands on legs/knees as a beginner?
>>242019I sometimes do them before kickboxing classes, actually helps me kick higher
He was forced out by the growing anti-immigration party (sanseito) and because of his party's loss of seats to them in. Ishiba embarrassed himself, his party and his country when he fell stepping off the dohyo back in January after handing the cup to Horseshitryu. Hopefully the JSA will learn a lesson from this and kick all the mongs out of sumo. International types can go wrestle for Hakuho in his international league.
Dan Sr. got his hair cut
>>242057>Instantly get's 1000% more Bulgarianlol
>>242057Woah it's Tom Cruise!
