Milsim events editionOld Thread: >>228063Keep strictly real-steel related topics in >>>/k/, gun and gear porn's cool as long as you don't spam.If you have a useful guide or want to rework one for the OP, post it and someone will add it to the next one.>Newbie pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/9EdSzRMj>Recently updated /asg/ retailer guidehttps://pastebin.com/VHtFZX8M>Legal comprehensive, crosscheck with your local laws to be on the safe sidehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airsoft
>>236300This board is so slow just because the old thread reach the bump limit doesn't mean you have to make a new one.Didn't even make a thread prompt either 0/10
>>236300need to fit another 25 dollars into my taiwangun order for the free shipping what do
>>241761Buy more bbs?
>>241761actually do canted rails + red dot work at all? i get the real life use involves canting the gun sideways and that doesn't work in airshit, but i wonder if i could just use the red dot without canting the gun. putting the red dot on top of my LPVO is not an option>>241762eh i already got like2 opened bags and 1 more in the order but i guess i could get 1 more in a heavier BB weight
Thinking of getting a 2nd gun. An HK416, preferably. I have narrowed it down to VFC HK416A5 V3 GBBR and Arcturus AEG ver.Is it a hassle to maintain and clean a GBBR? I've heard the magazines are very fragile because they need to be air tight. I am also worried if AliExpress replicas can withstand the recoil from the GBBs, or should I invest in some quality attachments.
>>241763>but i wonder if i could just use the red dot without canting the gunto clarify i mean like putting it on the left side instead of right, like pic related (i just flipped the original picture horizontally). that way you could use it without canting the guni don't have one but it seems totally doable to have it on the left side, and it seems like it'd be more comfortable to use it like that anyway. is there any reason why people put their canted rails/sights on the right side normally?
>>241765>is there any reason why people put their canted rails/sights on the right side normally?ok nvm i was able to figure out that it mainly has to do with having the optic over bore so you can properly zero and your shots aren't offset as well. i can imagine it's a necessity for longer range shooting irl, but i can't imagine that really matters for airsoft engagement ranges and accuracy requirements
Do TMs have specifically strong coatings or am I just retarded? Shit seems so strong.
>>241764Personally going to suggest the GBBR because I think it'd be more interesting - mags are tougher than people give them credit for but feed lips are the main trouble spot, though the ones on VFC mags tend to be pretty sturdy AFAIKAs for maintenance, literally just buy some Super Lube 21030 and follow Explosive Enterprise's GBB maintenance guide on the matter; can be summarized as "field strip, clean old lube, apply small amount of new lube, reassemble"His paracord boresnake video is also pretty helpful since a clean barrel can make a surprising difference as far as accuracy goes>>241775If you're referring to the MWS, pretty sure they're all Cerakoted which is way stronger than the usual airsoft paintjobs
this is too much even for me
Best options for a replica PPSH-41?
>>241878The new vfc gbb?I have had this S&t ppsh and you have to remove the ebb because it will eat itself. The materials are too cheap. Otherwise it's fine. The hop up comes from a Thompson and you will have to change the hop rubber and nub because it can barely hop 0.25 ootb. Also the trigger switch is from a m249 just in case it fries. Wiring is pretty shit too.Then there's the snow wolf which is the same as the S&t but faux wood.
Ordered a VFC AK74M. You've all seen it by now, but I'll post pics when it gets in.
>>241909>AK74Mreminds me of military class in high school
>>241910>military classSounds based, which country? In the US, kids just get brainwashed with holocaust lies.
>>241911kazakhstan its called нвп
>>241912stands for beginners military training
>>241912>>241913>нвпInteresting. Is it taught to all students or an elective for those joining the military?
>>241914taught to all students cuz we have conscription for men so its supposed to get them ready for that but you mainly just do stupid shit like pushups with a gas mask on
>>241915Did you do fast AK disassembly and reassembly like this?https://youtu.be/LrxjYfl05ek
>>241909Can never have enough AK posting.
>>241920Hell yeah. I can't wait to see the next AK VFC makes.
>was just going to buy a simple high profile red dot for my rifle>that was 2 days ago>currently about to spend twice as much trying to rig together a micro red dot with a separate LPVO without any idea if the setup would even be any good at allthis happens every time
>>241928i was also briefly considering just running the LPVO but i assume like it's impractical trying to get the eye relief right within any kind of closer range engagement where people run around. i prefer to aim down sights a lot even in close range (semi only in my area + i suck at point shooting)my experience with magnified scopes is limited to firing real guns with big boy scopes instead of LPVOs however.
>>241909wish they released an AKS-74U or AKM. Tried the 74M and it's very nice but I don't want that specific model
>>241917yes literally that exact thing in front of the class
>>241933From what I’ve read online VFC plans to release every significan AK model, I’m assuming that includes a krink and an akm
>>241951the question is how long will that take, tho
>>241936Thats pretty cool man. We used to teach marksmanship fundamentals in the US before women took over the education system. >>241954Probably a while, but I’m not going to buy a first gen anyway. I’m sure it will be fucked up.
>come back to the hobby and buy a new gun>it needs upgrades, tuning and accessories>"wtf well i guess i need another gun to rely on while i figure this out">buy another gun>get annoyed with its stock performance>now have 2 guns that need upgrades, tuning and accessories
>>241995Just get a 3rd gun to use while you work out the first 2.
>>241998ive actually entertained the idea since i actually have some parts and a need for an 1.2J-1.4J joule range SMG. but i can't get a cyma plat mp5k right now and regardless i feel it might be a bit irresponsible after closing in 2k spent in the last 2 months
>>242003>1.2-1.4J SMGWhat's the rifle class power?
>>242003ARP9 and be done with it
>>2420281.7J for rifles, 1.2J for SMGs (full auto allowed for them)>>242031i get why it's good in airsoft but i just can't get into the whole deal with companies using the AR15 receiver for everything, and using one for 9mm just seems like sheer hubris to me. at least the DE SMGs make a good effort to mask that they're repackaged AR15s i was also hoping to go as compact and small as possible. like i thought about getting a DE M924 but i think even that is too big. really not a lot of SMGs that are even smaller except the mp5k
>>242039You thought about one of those full auto Mark IV clones?
>>242087the gas pistols? yeah that would be most compact and fun but i'm hesitant to do anything gas related because of the magazines, especially for full auto usage i found some specna arms edge 2.0 x-series guns on sale for €225 on gunfire.com. it's definitely bigger than an MP5k and i don't really like AR style guns, but it's hard to argue with the stock stats and the price. however i've read that specna arms fell off big time at one point due to QC issues and i don't know if they've ever really recovered. what's the situation on that right now?maybe i should just wait for the cyma plat mp5k to restock. i guess i could get something else too (like the ARP9 mentioned earlier) but i tend to buy stuff on sale if i can help it
>>241921>next AKI'd rather they do something else than another AK or mallninja AR.
>>242136what kind of AR would you like then
>>242142I said I DON'T want an AR. I want something VFC hasn't made before like a BAR or an FG42 or a GBB M60. Anything but yet another boring nugun, unless it's a V4 rerelease of their fixed upper M16s.
>>242146i hear u loud and clear. here is your fg42 sir
>>242147They used to make guns with so much soul back in the day. Not like the heaps of plastic we get today.
>>242153you said it pal. i like plastic though. my personal boggle is more that every country is moving towards some kind of AR-shaped platform. what happened to countries seeing some dude's random gun project made in a garage and going "hell yeah let's make that our troops use that thing"
>>242153>muh sovlshut the fuck up, retard
What's a good brand/place to get an SVD scope from? Vector optics/RS ones seem to be out of stock everywhere and I've heard less than stellar things about the 100-200$ alibaba ones
>buyer's remorse over pretty expensive gun i boughtnow what? i don't think i can return it since it's been a month. do i flip it while it's "fresh", do i just keep it in case i come around? i need to hear some anecdotes
A friend and i are going to build a milsim loadout, we are going to run identical kit and we decided we want AR15 GBBRs so, whats the best option that is:-easy to find parts in US-have decent performance OOTB-its a workhorse of reliability-its easy to find magsSo far we are between GHK, TM MWS and KWA, i know cyma have the T8 system, but nobody seems to talk good about that
>>242232If its a system that you dont have already, like your first GBBR or HPA, keep it, otherwise try to flip it because collecting tens of plastic crap is annoying and hard to do maintenance after a while
>>242239>ghk>kwalollmaoIf you really need to buy something off your list buy the TM. Other than that there's VFC with decent OOTB performance and plenty of aftermarket. Nobody talks about cyma bullshit because it's aping TM while being proprietary.
>>242239An MWS is just going to get you right, I'm knee deep in an APFG (VFC) MCX right now and I'm trying to figure out how and why my gas routers are getting torn on some magazines. This was after replacing the hop arm and bucking to get it to atleast hop .45s without sending them to the moon.>inb4 check heavy recoil clubthey can't decide what causes it so I'm just going to file the nozzle arm thingy and hope it works. Also their advice is shitty and nonspecific.
>>242247>An MWS is just going to get you rightNTA but I wish the faggot japs made at least one variant with a fixed carry handle. I know there are receiver kits but I'm not going to pay several hundo on top of the already expensive gun and mags.
>>242242it's an AEG and i have a couple already, but it's currently my main assault rifle. it's the F2000 that i've talked about earlierto sum up, i definitely wanted and still want a good bullpup, but the F2000 feels very half-baked and needs a lot of small issues fixed before it can be fielded, like the air voluming, the trigger, and spring twang. the ergos are also kinda retarded, like most of the weight is towards the back, but your main hand has to grip the gun by the dumb thick donut hole design, which makes it difficult to do a lot of fast shoulder changes and other things like that. it's also just a really bulky gun. it seems most viable for like a pseudo-DMR configuration where you abuse its longer barrel, easy teching and very comfortable shooting position to patiently shoot from afar, but that's really not the role i bought it forthere's a lot of things i still like about it because of the bullpup configuration, and i was going to just accept its faults, but then i found out i had totally missed the SSR77 when looking for bullpup options. the SSR77 seems much better out of the box and has better ergos than the F2000, now i want to get one of those instead rather than try to make the F2000 work better
Opinion on the new VFC L403A1?
>>242280Boring
>>242280>ANOTHER fucking AR
What GBBR should I get? Thinking VFC 727. Any higher quality AR alternatives I should be considering?
>>242280>VFC L403A1isn't this the first new and updated VFC AR or something?what's new about it and how does it compare?
>>242382It's got some internal upgrades over the V3, mainly a different nozzle, carrier and hop up chamber design, but other than that it's yet another gay mallninja AR so nothing really interesting.
Is it worth it "upgrading" the nozzle for a 2 oring one? In going for maximum air seal/compression in a krytac SPR and want to change the nozzle for the Maxx 21.25mm double oring one.Also what other straight upgrades can i do to it?
what if I secretly replaced your airsoft with a real gun in your sleep
>>242470I have waaaaay more real guns than airsoft guns
>>242280internal changes are cool, can't wait for them to be rolled out across their entire lineup - particularly their more budget offerings>>242382new BCG using the MCX-style nozzle that's significantly easier to work on, new hop unit design that can be removed without OB removal (think like their AK-74M), and IIRC due to using MCX nozzles comes with an NPAS - has been informally called the V4 system and I wouldn't be surprised if it gradually becomes standard on all rifles going forward
What is the best airsoft revolver I can get?
I thought about getting into this hobby, since it looked like fun and always wanted to try it out.Glocks looked cool, but pic related cought my eye. I was told to never get a beretta. Is it true? are they that bad?
>>242639the only Berettas worth getting are the "Gen 2" Tokyo Maruis with hop up
>>242639Nah they are decent, but you have to be aware that 80% of the aftermarket world for GBB pistols are for Hi-Capas, so if you are buying a glock, sig sauer, beretta, etc, you are basically buying something that only accepts stock parts (even VFC glocks have _some_ aftermarket), plus if you're in Europe mags can be hard to find.
>>242644>Hi-Capasthese things are so obnoxious to look at lol its like john wick larpers everywhere
Anyone know if someone's done an Evoker frame for the AAP?
>>242638i looked into it myself a while back and the options are pretty abysmal. h8r is among the most workable options because of the 24rd oreo clip and even that is pretty bad. aside from that there are a few tokyo marui springer ones. most of the CO2 revolvers shoot way too hot for any cqb use, but they at least have proper shells for immersion. supposedly you can get low power shells for them but i was told they also suck. in short: it's fucked mate
>>242666I'm not too worried about it shooting hot, I just want something fun that won't just break itself after 100 shots. I'm looking at the umarex because I have one of their paintball guns which is pretty fun, but I'd prefer metal for the feel.
>>242672are you just going to plink with it? if so you may want to get an airgun instead. a lot of airsoft revolvers are pretty half-assed airgun conversions, which means shit/no hop up and other issues. i realize i probably shouldn't even be giving input since i don't own any airsoft revolvers, but afaik very few people do. i've never met one myself, even online. but if i were to own one it'd be the schofield.
>>242675That looks pretty nice, who makes it?I mostly just want one to shoot my nerd friends in the woods. I have a pretty nice airsoft 1911, but I just really like revolvers. I am looking for some nice pellet guns too, mostly to teach my children to shoot before starting them on actual firearms.
>>242680wingun, sometimes rebranded as ASG. supposedly it's decent but it's definitely more meant for the replica/airgun market than airsoft usagenote that many CO2 airsoft revolvers can cause actual bleeding wounds, and shooting anyone in the face area with one is very bad news. but i guess if you and your friends are grown ass man wearing baggy clothes and paintball masks then you won't cause permanent damage to each other
>>242680>>242683also i failed to point it out but the wingun schofield comes in both airgun pellet and airsoft versions, as do many other co2 revolvers. the airsoft version is typically an afterthought. much like the real life schofield it's going to be front heavy so not the most comfortable gun for kids to shoot though lol
>>242642I love my olde Y&P M9 NBB! It's accurate, reliable, efficient and cheap.
>>242639>>242644TM-spec Glocks (Gen3-based in particular, though TM's newer Glocks in the G19 and Gen4 line onwards have very good fundamental upgrades to the design and have a decent amount of support) are the second-most supported pistol platform on the market, personally own a KJ G17 that lasted four years before needing parts swapped and now has a GM alum slide, GM Ti-coated trigger lever and Guarder blowback bitsIf you want the best performance possible, TM's Gen5 Glocks upgraded to nylon slides and feature the most up-to-date internal designs of any of them, with a decent amount of support; that being said the KJ G17 (or the KP-13 if you live in the US and can't/won't order from out of country) is a pretty solid option for an entry-level airsoft pistol that's compatible with TM G17 Gen3 aftermarket (just make sure to use gas mags running propane, CO2 mags will absolutely beat the piss out of the gun)>>242638Not many options; there's TM-style revolvers that hold gas and 20+ BBs in the cylinder, or shell-fed revolvers that use actual shells which hold the ammunition; most common option for the latter's Wingun revolvers, which do surprisingly have aftermarket thanks to CL Project (as they're the most commonly used revolvers for IPSC Action Air), but expect parts to eventually wear out and need replacement (maybe not in 100 rounds or less, but a buddy of mine treated his damn-near perfectly and still wound up dealing with the timing getting fucked on it eventually)Also, while low-power shells exist, another option if your goal isn't maximum immersion is 3D-printed shotshells; there's plenty of designs out there for them (including some honeycomb-clip designs that have the added benefit of bridging the gap between the CO2 output and the cylinder, on top of being moonclipped) and let you turn your fuck-your-shit handgun into a reasonably alright pocket shotgun(You can also just print single-BB shells, low-power or otherwise, and save a boatload on ammo)
>>236300Anyone in the US import airsoft replica shit recently with the new tariffs and shit? How did the process go?
>>242475>new BCG using the MCX-style nozzle that's significantly easier to work on, new hop unit design that can be removed without OB removal (think like their AK-74M), and IIRC due to using MCX nozzles comes with an NPAS - has been informally called the V4 system and I wouldn't be surprised if it gradually becomes standard on all rifles going forwardAre they gonna make V4 fixed carry handle ARs?
>want to buy a ww2 gat>essentially everything is a piece of shit>want to buy a gbb ww2 gat>lol>lmaoI fucking hate this hobby. I guess fuck you if you want something else other than generic mallninja larper AR with 5 metric tons of useless shit strapped to it or generic mallninja larper AK with 5 metric tons of useless shit strapped to it. I guess VFC recently changed it up a bit with those retro M16s, FALs and shit like that but there are still no good WW2 GBBRs at all no it didn't change much. How I wish some competent company made a GBB Thompson, BAR, MP40 or StG44. Even a Bren would be sick. There is a little bit more variety with AEGs but I'm over sewing machines and lack of firing feedback.
>>242718I know it's WE but isn't their Thompson fine? But yea a good GBB Mp40 would be sick. I've tried the SRC/Cybergun one and it feels cool to shoot but the mags being dual CO2 just ruins it.Besides that get the VFC PPSH?
>>242691God I fucking hope so - at the very least the V4 BCGs w/ MCX nozzles are backwards-compatible with V3s, but it would be nice to have that easy-to-swap hop solution in a gun that's just a little less generic without likely needing to extensively modify the upper receiver to house it>>242718Manufacturers will always prioritize the most recognizable options first before going niche, and ARs are used by almost every western military in some capacity (plus multiple Asian countries) - from there you go to the less common things slowlyVFC just dropped a GBB PPSh that seems pretty good (drums only, though the way they're constructed lets you swap out ammo feed tracks for quick mag-reloading), WE has a Thompson that seems potentially okay, Northeast has a Sten that seems alright(?), and I think SRC has an MP40 (though it's one of SRC's homegrown designs, meaning zero aftermarket available) but yeah, options are limited because WW2 stuff is pretty niche by modern standards - personally wouldn't mind a new GBB M1 Garand that uses enblocs, kinda like Marushin but with greater durability, or an M3A1 grease gun
>>242733I wanted either an A1/A2 or a 727 but after hearing about the v4 improvements I think I'll wait.
>>242738That's pretty much my plan too - in my case I want their 723, but it'd be nice to have the new improvements built in from the factory
>was about to buy one of those fancy v3s>now they're coming out with a v4Thankfully I held out.
>>242721>isn't their Thompson fine?No, I had it and it was terrible, just like basically any WE gun.>get the VFC PPSH?They made one of the few WW2 guns I absolutely don't care about.>>242733>Thompson, Sten, MP40All of these are average to bad. I already mentioned the Thompson, Sten has terrible accuracy, vents gas all the time because they didn't bother correctly designing the magazine and you basically can't get parts for it when something breaks and it will break. MP40 is just bad all around from what I've seen. I would gladly pay €1k for a low production WW2 replica if I knew it was actually good OOTB. That's not going to happen because I haven't even seen any popular guns, be it AEG or GBB, priced like that where you didn't have to fuck around with it to improve performance, fix some stupid, underlying issue or it just straight up broke after a while. Airsoft manufacturers just don't give a shit because they know their consumer base will gobble up whatever they shit out anyway.
>>242754larp as late war waffen-ss instead of early war so the ppsh fits
>>242756Even mid war would work, I just don't like the PPSh.
>buy a used dye i4>can't comfortably use my 2 optics even with the highest riser option or high profile weaver ringstwas all for naught. back to fog gaming
>>242759What kind of gun? Chances are you probably don't need an optic.
>>242756>>242758>Even mid war would work, I just don't like the PPSh.what a shame. could have larped as steinerhttps://youtu.be/Ye9J4nQrz5s?t=111i can sympathize thoughever. doesn't seem much you can get if you've looked into all your options already, like even carbined pistols. i also found a king arms m1 carbine but i have no idea if that is shit too>>242760eh i've tried playing without them but i can't really pull it off. i don't know if i have bad eyes or if i'm just bad at shooting intuitively, but i can't quite really walk my shots onto target, at least not on semi. lack of practice perhaps. either way i tend to aim down sights even within like 10m range. also my DMR is required to have a magnified optic to even field it
>>242761Ah yeah that sucks. Keep the i4 those fucking things are amazing for pistol shooting or cqb stuff, and honestly get the Valken Zulus, best fucking goggles I ever had; they can't make guns but they can make the shit out of paintball pants and airsoft goggles
>>242761>king arms m1 carbineIt's not good either. Already done the research.
VFC G3 yay or gay?
>>242762yeah the i4 seems really nice and i'm definitely keeping it around. i gave it another try and i can aim with it after all though not very intuitively. it'll be a good backup>Valken Zulusoh good hint, there are some on sale in a store very close by>>242763sad. airsoft truly is an ar15 world
>>242765Unfortunately the world is also an ar15 world.
>>242759I have a Dye, AKs I don't need a riser due to the lower stock and with anything else I my Hydra
>>242766>Unfortunately the world is also an ar15 world.it really is lol. reminds me of the US military claiming they want to adopt a new rifle for like 25 years and then rejecting all new rifles anyway, even if they were better than the AR15. i think the only reason the US military approved the H&K 416 and the SIG XM7 as replacements was because the those companies went out of their way to make them look like the good old AR15 (even though they are internally not similar at all)
>>242764it's an older design. Wish VFC upgraded it. Wanted to get one but decided to go with the FAL.
>>242769Nah the us military went with the SPEAR because someone in charge of procurement has a bunch of stock in Sig, same reason they bought a bunch of pistols that shoot themselves
>>242771
>>242770fal is cooler imo. g3 has always just looked like an oversized mp5 to me
>>242774It's the other way around for me. MP5 is a midget G3
>>242775sorry i saw matrix when i was a child so to me mp5 is actually a bigger mp5k.
Whats the best lower facemask to wear with bump helmet and goggles for weekend larp events? I tried a mesh mask years ago and it hurt my nose.
>>242789>I tried a mesh mask years ago and it hurt my nose.they hurt my nose out of the box as well, but you can typically shape them with your fingers to assist with that. also some come with optional foam inserts to help with fit
>>242789>>242796>nose issues
>finally get airsoft gun>show up to field>its fucking completely dead
>>242823no lefunds!
So far I’m impressed with the VFC 74. It feels exactly like my real 5.45 AKs
>>242851now if only they released an AKM or at least an AKS-74U
>>241764>Thinking of getting a 2nd gun. An HK416, preferably. I have narrowed it down to VFC HK416A5 V3 GBBR and Arcturus AEG ver.>Is it a hassle to maintain and clean a GBBR? I've heard the magazines are very fragile because they need to be air tight.>I am also worried if AliExpress replicas can withstand the recoil from the GBBs, or should I invest in some quality attachments.Mainaining a GBB is easy, just look up dissasembly video, regularly clean old grease and relube.Ive been through 6-7 "airsoft" red dots and all of them are shit, all of them had some kind of weird ass issue.but GBBR recoil is so light that it should be a non-issue though. IMO just buy a proper red dot for 100-150 usd.the VFC mags are actually pretty tanky, they're a good design and its easy to fix leaks. Usually it involves tightening a valve or relubing orings.IMO GBBRs are better in every way except convenience.
>>242031>ARP9LOL
>>242239TM MWS and VFC ar-15s checkmark both of these, but the MWS is the definite plug and play rifle. (the DE one, not so much)Having both the VFC and MWS, the VFC just feels so much nicer than the MWS, realism and recoil. VFC mags are also lighter.
>>242396If you havent replaced the plastic piston, i'd do that. Especially on a DMR.
>>242718if they made a BAR, STG, or a BREN they'd all be 800-1200 dollars. Like the Northeast FAMAS is over 900 dollars.
>>242771the spear is riddled with so many issues that i wouldn't be surprised it ends up being scrapped
>>242892how do you go bout making gas a financially sound decision in colder temperatures ? No silicon lubed gas runs me 10€ for about 750ml of gas. I find that shit bareley is enough for 1,5 game days. My pistol eats it like hotcakes, my rifle does too, there is no cheaper ready to buy Gas that i know of. I would get my hands on a VFC if the m16 was anywhere near affordable. No used ones ever get sold and shit runs 600€+ new. Anyways im sure europe is different when it comes to gas but maybe i dont know something yet
>>242896If they were actually good and didn't break then like I said before I'd be willing to pay that much. We both know it wouldn't be the case though.
>>242639Well lads, went to the nearby shop and got myself a cz shadow 2. The Glocks looked cool but felt also cheap and way to light. they also didn't had the m9a3 in the store, which was sad, but fuck it, maybe next time
>>242920Fucking forgot to add the pic
>>242916What about those welding propane bottles? They run me like 14 CAD for one and work decently in the autumn.
>>242921>CZoyyou fucked up
>try an aug for the first time>forearm keeps knocking against the magazine due to the way the pistol grip is shaped because i keep trying to hold it like an ARnow i get why the f2000 is shaped the way it is. it kinda forces you to grip it in a style that is more natural for bullpups. i wonder if the tavor would feel more natural than the aug
>>242933>bullpups are gay and retarded
>>242932> fucked upExplain
>>242941ASG sucks
>>242893Least shit AEG
>>242943Why? Whats wrong with ASG?
>>242934i actually kinda like many of their aspects, even ergonomically, but i think only the f2000 and p90 feel like they're really designed with those limitations in mind, instead of just sticking the mag in the back of a normal rifle like most of them do
>>242943You do know asg makes nothing right? It's the same as Umarex or Cybergun. They just license stuff. The CZ pistols are all made by KJW
>>242951cybergun makes logos and puts them on guns for a mere extra 100 dollar price tag
>>242916So the beautiful thing about green gas is that its similar to propane... in fact, it IS PROPANE.you can buy the camping cans that are about 1/3 the price of green gas. Better yet, if you're willing to invest into it, you can get a propane tank and refill the cans as well. When it comes to "winterizing your GBB" VFCs are not really well suited for cold weather OOTB. You'll need to swap a few springs to make it ideal for that.Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6-HL5k-GBoAlso check out Action!/proact airsoft for more affordable VFC GBBRs.
>>242944Overrated>>242951They do actually make a few things, like the skorpion.
>>242944Then literally any G&G with a G2 gearbox would work, doesn't have to be the arp9
>>242953Evike owns cybergun now IIRC
>>242968Guy wanted a small gun Also it comes with a battery and charger, super easy to recommend to new folks
Got 2 new pistols this week
>>242982fair nuff
>>242967Reliability is very hard to find in the airsoft world. It's overrated in the same way Glocks are.
cop or notfor subzero playing
>>242916Green gas is literally propane, so anywhere you can buy canisters of 100% propane (usually found in hardware/camping stores, over here Coleman (great for bulk-purchasing as they usually come in three-packs) and Bernzomatic (blue blowtorch tanks, less bitterant and fits in waterbottle pouches but costs more per tank) canisters are the usual picks)For winter performance, VFC V3 ARs (and the "V4"/"V3.5" British AR they just released, which likely also performs better in winter due to what seems to be greatly improved efficiency due to an improved BCG assembly that can be dropped into V3s as aftermarket) come with an adjustable screw on the hammer out of the box that can be backed out to increase the amount of gas released before the hammer is recocked; beyond that, MAP-Pro/propylene gas (Bernzomatic's yellow tanks are the go-to for this, as it's a blowtorch fuel) is a simple go-to as it retains higher pressures in lower temperaturesBeyond that, you'd need to swap out springs for softer equivalents; buffer spring's the usual go-to, followed by the hammer spring if absolutely necessary, both of which serve to reduce the amount of spring tension the BCG is fighting when forced to operate at lower pressuresAlso, as an added tip: it may be wise to figure out a solution to keep your gas tank(s) and mags warm in order to mitigate the effects of ambient cooldown as much as possible, ranging from simply storing them in a closed bag with a handwarmer or two (tank at all times, mags between games to warm them up a bit, though it'd be wise to make sure the inside of the bag doesn't exceed 45 Celsius) to making use of electrically-heated magazine pouches (though I've not seen any reviews of them at this point in time)At the very least you want the reservoir you're filling from to be warmer than your mags, since otherwise gas simply will not flow into the magazine
>>243007Fuck titan batteries, if their Nimhs are anything like their Lions they are fucking dogshit. They decided to use a fragile copper ribbon to connect all the cells which will end up being stripped making your battery useless.The only reprieve for this is that they have pretty good warranties and their Lipos are good.
>>242990>not MaruisNGMI
>>243031>NGMII already have like 6 marui pistols, don't need another. Also plastic slides are boring.
>>243007>nimh>subzerogood joke anon!
>>242866>now if only they released an AKM or at least an AKS-74UWhen (if) they do I'm buying it. Rumor is VFC wants to make every significant AK.
What does /asg/ think about my gun?
>>243094this is the airsoft general not paintball
>>243097Well thank God it's Not Paintball then ^^
>>243094An identity crisis in gun formI feel like you would genuinely get more enjoyment out of paintball and its general playstyles than airsoft at this point
>>243094when did you start your transition? :)
>>243094>Ammo doesn't feed from the topAre you even trying?
>>243109paintball kinda sucks. Even on top markers it's not very accurate and at least here you can't play it recreationally besides tournament play which are only a couple times a year. Otherwise paintball fields are reserved for work events, bachelors parties etc.
>>243113As long as you arent a piece of shit teenager with an ego problem
>>243116>As long as you arent a piece of shit teenager with an ego problemLike these faggots?https://youtu.be/1lDPQM8eb7A
>>243117Oh thats Tac City. Never want to go there again, filled to the brim with those types
>>243117>>243118I'm looking at the other videos on this channel, and noticed some of the guys recording are grown men. What a bunch of losers.
>>243117lol how are these kids not getting their shit kicked in, i would be escalating to a physical altercation within the first 2 seconds of something like this
>>243120no you wouldn't
>>243120Calm down gravy seal
>>243135>>243136are you telling me you would let an 18 year old kid spray your neck with BBs while you walk off to spawn? you can see these same kids immediately go into crying baby mode when a ref actually confronts them. confront your bullies guys
>>243139I'm not American so I don't have to deal with behavior like this
>>243141neither do we here, there's 0 tolerance for that kind of behavior. that's why i thought it was crazy that there was no one was stopping these kids, like actually taking their gun away and banning them on the spot. if someone got caught doing something like this here, they'd probably have their gun's build quality tested against the nearest rock, followed by a ban on every field in the area and a de-facto ban everywhere in the country where their reputation preceded themi don't know if americans are afraid of escalating because of the high availability of guns or lawsuits though
>>243142>that's why i thought it was crazy that there was no one was stopping these kidsIt's the same when you see some white lady get stabbed on the subway you just mind your business and not get involved. Bystander effect or whatever it's called. It's funny tho seeing all the american videos and there are marshals everywhere keeping an eye on people. In my country majority of fields don't even have marshalls. The sport isn't that big so if you are a cheating nigger everyone knows you are one and don't want to get associated with you, so it generally sorts itself out
>>243142>>243143People definitely fight back if they start magdumping. My money is that the OP of the video clipped out parts of him getting punched out.I was trying to find a video of some guy who broke his krytac after using it as a club on someone else. I guess youtube took it down?
>>243213The beginning of this video?https://youtu.be/lQzUayaYVZQ
>>243226Yes lmao, I heard everyone involved got banned. SC Village is so popular and old so much shit happens. That's where the "i burned my patch" video happened as well.
>>243227I still don’t know what patch burning means
>>243094Got a parts list?
>>243139I'd stand there and watch him do it. And then when he ran out of ammo I'd tell him to reload and do it again. And again. Until he ran out. And then I'd laugh at him thinking that bothered me
>>243241So you would just let some punk kid cover you in welts while you study the blade?
>>243239https://www.reddit.com/r/perfectlycutscreams/comments/10jd0m4/rest_in_peace/Ok so some context: There was some team that gave a kid their patch (and some gear apparently) to him because he was new. The kid proceeds to record a video of himself burning the patch and posts it. There was also a rumor that the patch was made by a team member's dead grandma.So anyways, the guy recording recognizes the kid and proceeds to light the kid up with his polarstar on the spot.
I saw that you can print a hollow suppressor. What's the best foam to fill them? Same whole size or change between sizes? Also do i need a spring or nah?
>>243282im amazed people using airsoft (HPA) guns as weapons to try to deliberately hurt people hasn't gotten this hobby banned in most countries
>>243241cuck
Why is the discord so full of troons? Is the entire hobby just trannies now?
>>243520ima keep it a buck with you. I dont have the answers, my best guess is that this must be the next avenue the lucust have affixed their gaze on. I think it just makes sense to gatekeep the perception of the sport in a certain angled way. It could also just be posturing. I mean Every time i play irl its mostly just dudes enjoying themselves woth the occasional talked into it gf of a local player. What about your local fields ? Is socializing an option maybe building a sort of mini network locally ?
>>243520it's their safe space. It's full of children too. Fucking groomers. At least they'll kill themselves eventually like all trannies do
>>243355ayo what printer are you running? Ive been thinking of shelling out 800 buckaroos for one but i know down deep inside that all ill end up printing are some airsoft accessories and maybe a couple of goofy little keychain toys. Why dont you just print one and fill it with whatever ? I saw a video of a dude who measured the sound difference on aegs gbbrs with and without a foam filled regular hollow mock suppressor and it was a 15 decibel difference. Btw i did not try this out yet but irrc the guy i watched made some round cutouts from stuff that resembled the foamy shit airsoft guns are sometimes shipped in. No clue what the material is called. But hey man just try the cheapest shit first and see for yourself. Also would the effort and extra weight be worth it to you ?
>>243520It's a large community Discord server, trans people are all over those like white on riceI personally just ignore them and make liberal use of the search bar whenever I need info because it's got better odds of success than straight-up asking about something, and I don't really feel like engaging in regular conversation in any Discord server with more than 15-20 active members
>>243544Yeah same. Lots of good info in there but all the incessant troon and furry presence really ruins it. What is it about discord specifically that attracts them like a moth to a flame?
>>243520Mute every channel for the guns you don't own and it's fine. Well maybe not if you have something more mainstream like a VFC or TM M4, but for something a bit more niche it's good.. There's no reason in reading the main chat it's just faggots and retards, but yes airsoft is one of those hobbies that have more wo(men) than actual women. >>243540Not him but I use a Creality K1 with some aftermarket parts. If I were to buy a new one today I'd get the Centauri Carbon from Elegoo. Friend of mine has it and he prefers it over his Bambu.
>>243568Also on HRC I forgot to mention. You shouldn't actually believe everything you see on there either. The server also has a lot of GBBR "larpers" that don't even own the Gbb guns they talk about, or if they do they don't actually use them. Same goes for YouTube reviewers like Middle-aged gamer or bada Bing airsoft. Both don't play airsoft but act like they are knowledgeable about GBBR. Same goes for the Discord. I know one of the guys there who has 30k+ comments and is in Every channel. He owns 1 GBBR and he doesn't actually play Airsoft. Yet he gives advice and recommendations on a daily basis to users on the Discord with knowledge he pulls out of his ass or parroted from other Discord users.
>>243553>What is it about discord specifically that attracts them like a moth to a flame?They hide behind "server rules" to be as obnoxious as possible without any possibility of anyone lashing back. As soon as someone dares to retarded admins throw a shit fit because troons for some reason are some kind of protected caste in every discord server. I have no idea why they have so much sway on these though, even if there aren't any in the admin group. Is it really just politically correct social brownie points for discord admins for appeasing those subhumans?
>>243571Y'all sound like Russian Nazis. We need to be better airsofters :>)
>>243571Airsofters don't have sex so they want to fuck the tranny cause it's the only chance they get at something
>>243575I don't have sex and think that TTD would be cool
>>243569>one of the guys there who has 30k+ comments and is in Every channel. He owns 1 GBBR and he doesn't actually play Airsoftwho?
this guy, i only know of him because he's in another discord as a janny where he does the exact same spiel but with AEG's. I'm pretty sure he jerks off to the thought of getting mod powers on HRC
>>243589oh, that fucking retard. I personally hate that germoid Nacho guy
>>243590Nacho is a giant faggot as well. People been asking for a CGS channel for a long time, but he wouldn't make one because he disliked it. Only recently gave in.
>>243540>>243568I'm using a Elegoo Saturn 8k resin printer. it's great for printing minis, but it get's harder to print bigger stuff. If i ever gonna buy a new one, then it would probably be a filament one. i also got bored and created some shooting target. Some "worked", some broke and some manage to handle multiple shots without problems> Also would the effort and extra weight be worth it to you ?Maybe? Only one way to find it out
>>243569Bada bing does play...? He even posts gameplay footage
>>243612It is true he did recently start playing again, but in the same video he said he went a couple times and didn't really want to again, and that he hadn't played since like 2019 before that. So not really what I would call active and someone who should make reviews on what's good or not when your metric of performance is shooting targets in your backyard
>>243589Haha I already had a run in with that dipshit and made a note about him
>>243622Kind of redundant, isn't it?
>>243622650 days since he joined that discord with 36981 comments a day that amounts to 56 posts every day. Talk about being terminally online
I'm going to 3D print my first AIRSOFT gun, is this worth printing?https://www.printables.com/model/1403014-mosquito-mk1-airsoft-kit
>>24362656 posts per day about fucking AIRSOFT
>>243652Yes mosquito kits are good
been trying to buy new boots for airsoft for airsoft for like a week now. everything just feels kinda shitty, even shittier than the milsurp boots im wearing now. finna just pick a pair and wear them until they fit
>>243729just buy Lowas
Give me one good reason I shouldn't get a VFC M16A1
Has anyone ever ordered Taginn grenades from Evike? I got some several years ago and they took like 7-8 weeks to arrive. Was never given a tracking number or any time frame to expect them and genuinely thought they were lost and filed a case through Paypal, etc., did eventually get them, but is this extra long lead time typical or a fluke?
>>243774i had not opened this thread for 2 days, but i did end up getting lowas after all. i wasn't able to find zephyrs for my fuckhueg feet so i picked out Z-8S GTXs on sale. i put in some insoles and now they feel like my running shoes, only heavier and a lot warmer. feels good man. supposedly these things suck for winter wear and super wet conditions but at least they're very comfortable. i could still try to find zephyrs but ive already spent about 7 hours trying to buy shoes lol>>243958if you know it works well for your use case and you have long had an unquenchable desire to fiddle with one and maintain it with love and care then you should get it. i dont think GBBRs make for good guns to buy on a whim and stuff in your closet after 1 game. they should at least be finger fucked whenever you walk past them in your house
>>243979>i could still try to find zephyrs but ive already spent about 7 hours trying to buy shoes lolnvm researched a bit more and apparently the zephyrs suck for winter wear too, but that's fine honestly since i hate winter sports, and i do still have my old ass milsurp boots for that if i really need them.also the z8s seem more supportive around the ankles. i constantly dread rolling my ankles when out in the woods so i appreciate that
MWS or VFC?is that the question that makes everyone go apeshit?
>>244089It's a question asked by people who have done zero research on their own and want to be spoon fed.
>took my gun apart and changed the cylinder inside the gearbox>somehow didn't destroy my gun in the process>also gun now shoots a bit less than 1.4J instead of 1.2J yippeei reckon the air seal is still kinda shit though. the chrono values swing quite a bit and i should be shooting a tiny bit hotter with the spring i'm using
>>244133also i blogged this because i had never taken apart a gearbox before. it was daunting at first but now that i understand what every little part does, and how to do all the rituals in order to put the fucking thing back together, i feel pretty chill about it. desu i think i enjoyed it more than airsoft
i played airsoft today and it was pretty goodi am becoming more and more convinced i should just get an mp5k so i can run & gun and flank with even more impunity
Retard here.When the V4 ARs come out will all their ARs be upgraded to that standard?
Can any GBB enthusiasts tell me if there's any good way to mount a suppressor and longer inner barrel on a Glock? I've read that it's a bad idea because the barrel moves in the Glock so having extra weight can cause problems cycling and/or damage.The main reason I wanted to do it was to have a pistol that can easily be modified to fire at around 1J or 1.3J at will. And also because suppressors are cool and they make it easier to point the gun on target in CQBI reckon the alternative is to buy a Glock and then also buy an AAP01 to use as my suppressed 1.3J pistol. The extra Glock mag is a nice bonus. I just don't especially like how the AAP01 looks and would prefer to have a suppressed Glock
>>244454>suppressor and longer inner barrel on a GlockAh, I'm reading that you can get a front kit that the suppressor attaches to, but then that would mean I couldn't have the longer inner barrel
>>244454Would easier if you installed a longer inner barrel and then a npas instead of some niggerrig solution where the inner barrel is inside the supressor.TTI makes a npas for the AAP. Idk about glocks. Maybe if you get a WE spec glock the nozzle valve is the same?
>>244390probably not. The only worthwhile update is the bolt carrier
>>244469>Would easier if you installed a longer inner barrel and then a npasDid you mean shorter inner barrel and a npas?I guess I could do that, I think I would just like it more if the suppressor provided some actual use via gas efficiency and maybe a bit of accuracy. But I guess it doesn't matter as much as it does for AEGs.I read that you can also get an aftermarket non-recoil outer barrel but I think that would just cause more issues down the line.I'll probably just get the AAP01 and stick some glock shit on it, and only splurge on the frankenglock dream if I really like running it as a primary.
>>244497Actually I thought the AAP01 was still like 80 bucks, I'll just get the WE Glock if they're going to be the same price
>>244390If I had to hazard a guess, they'll probably do it eventually, whether just through the BCGs (which are drop-in to V3 ARs) or with the new hop units as wellAt least, I'd hope so since those changes singlehandedly greatly improve the gun's performance characteristics
>>244497>Did you mean shorter inner barrel and a npas?No bc the maximum air you get out of a stock aap amounts to about 1.1j depending on bb weight, so if you want 1.3 you need a longer barrel + npas so you can adjust it down to 1j
>>244536Ohh I see that makes sense. Though I don't see how the longer inner barrel and suppressor would work together if the inner barrel wasn't inside the suppressorHonestly the whole longer inner barrel thing isn't a big deal. I don't really want to own more than a single GBB due to maintenance/teching concerns so I was just thinking of having 1 gun that I can modify for various uses, like even run it as an outdoors primary if I feel like it. I figured the longer inner barrel would make it more competitive among SMGs and ARs. I'm pretty sure I should get an AAP01 to this end since it very easily supports different barrel lengths and suppressor combos, but I think the Glock would look and feel better with enough work done on it
why they gotta make guns that look like this
>>244763speedsofters and IPSCAA shooters, mainlythough as far as split-slide designs go, at least that one has a real reason to exist (so the front half can have an optic mounted to it, for open-division shenanigans)
>>244773oh yea i think the split slide design is fine and i consider it a plus. the design is just so busy lol. they wanted to make it look like a dinosaur with red gums and teeth or something?? also threw in some mayan symbols in the grip because fuck youat the very least these call of duty skin guns make the regular hi capas look relatively cool
>>244763>call it the carnotaurus>doesnt even remotely resemble a carnotaurus>>244773>IPSCAAI honestly don't know if this or IPSC is more cringe
>>244763retards buy them
>>244807really i think the gun seems pretty good feature-wise, the aesthetics are just stupidback in my day, the aesthetic meta was trying to make guns look like real military guns. now all these kids are taking their serious military guns and then turning them into call of duty battle pass content. at least i suspect it has to be some kind of call of duty influence, like how some "people" nowadays use their middle finger as their trigger finger. i hate to call it by this name but it is CRINGEis there like a specna arms prime for pistols? like something that comes pre-upgraded with the stuff people usually put in a TM pistol, and has good compatibility with other parts when it inevitably shits itself. best i've found is stuff like that ICS hicapa dinosaur teeth gun, but i lack knowledge of any subtle pitfalls. sure i can read reddit but the last couple of times i bought something recommended by them, i ended up dealing with a time and money consuming humiliation ritual
>Official Arcturus website now sells spare parts and accessoriesYesssssss>Shipping US onlyNooooooo
>>244763Ricer of the airsoft world.
>>244810https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHSQPPOMPZ0
Are they any recommendable m14/m21 airsofts, to setup something like this?
>>244823the main m14 options i know about are G&G and cyma, and G&G magazines don't come in that short type. there's also G&P but i don't know anything about them. >recommendable desu i don't know if i would recommend any m14 for anyone that doesn't extensively know what exactly they're getting into. all of them are pretty hard to work on, they aren't really the best DMR platforms because of how wank some of the proprietary stuff can be, and as an owner of a G&G one i think it's pretty overpriced for what it is. at least the CYMA one is cheap and decent so you can leave it mostly stock and use it as a cute skirmishing gun, or pay someone else to endure the grim task of upgrading it and tuning it so you can use it as a DMR
>>244823>>244830also i don't know your familiarity level with airsoft so i don't know if i explained that very clearly. let me know if you need more information
>>244810>turning them into call of duty battle pass contentI don't mind. These absolute retards don't realize their gay gaudy guns are visible from orbit and that's fine with me.
>>244830>proprietary stuffThat reminds me I wish some company made a good M14 unlike that WE piece of shit. Especially since it would most likely be possible to convert one into a GBB Garand.
>>244881I hope VFC releases one. They made all the other major battle rifles. Hope they do a DX one like the FAL. Man, that would sound so nice
>>244810Shinji's mother is embodied in that pistol, you insensitive bastard.
>>244901its a crime that there isnt a good GBBR m14 considering how nice and flashy the blowback action is. my theory is that people want to keep the real life m14 relevant because they just find it sexy like that, despite all reason
is glock the worst hand rapist of the common airsoft pistols or does it just feel like that because i have one with the finger grooves
>>245004I'm still omega mad fucking WE made a Thompson because that means noone in the near future is going to bother making one. It'd be fine if it was decent but it isn't.
>>245243you either have very large or very small hands, I don't get that at all as a large-glove individual who's been running a TM-spec G17 Gen3 clone as a secondary for years; try getting the chance to shoot a Gen5 (or a Guarder Gen2 frame if you're running a Gen3, don't care about not having an attachment rail and want to go the old-school cool/Gordon Freeman route) and seeing if that fits you better>>245004>>245290fucking realin the M14's case it'd be nice to have one that doesn't implode within one game day's worth of shooting unless you pour a ton of money into steel replacement parts, and while the Thompson doesn't seem terrible (AFAIK it surprisingly is the origin of the open-bolt hop solution of incorporating a standoff spring on the back of the nozzle to delay the release of gas until the BB has fully seated) it could probably be a lot better; also wouldn't mind a GBB Mini-14
>>245297>(AFAIK it surprisingly is the origin of the open-bolt hop solution of incorporating a standoff spring on the back of the nozzle to delay the release of gas until the BB has fully seated)That's literally one of the only two good things about it, the other being it's a Thompson. I had one a few years ago and it was fine at first but it kept getting worse over time. It had atrocious accuracy OOTB but that probably maybe could have been fixed if I bothered to. The bigger problem was it was made out of the absolutely cheapest dogshit pot metal ever made by man so the bolt bottom was already damaged when I bought it which I assume was just after someone tested it back at the factory. Naturally the sear not only was also made out of soft pot metal so it deteriorated really fast but you also have to file every single one because they're too sharp so they scrape across the bottom of the bolt. Additionally it will inevitably fail because the spring is trash and gets weak really fast so it'll burst on semi. As a last fuck you every single magazine, of which I had five, started leaking after about 3 weeks for no reason, even though I had them stored properly. My KJW 1911 and WE M9 mags stored in the same conditions were fine but the Thompson mags were not. Most of this shit is fixable with decent tutorials on the jewbook WE Thompson group but I didn't feel like fucking around with it anymore because there was no guarantee it would actually be halfway decent so I just sold it.
Given a joule limit, what is the best way to increase the distance of your shots: increase velocity or increase mass?
Just got this bad boy for £150 with the sight and the sling. I think it's the G&G L85 with the ETU. Did I get a bargain or is it a peice of shit?
>>245303technically i think distance might be unaffected but higher BB weights mean your BBs will be going faster for at longer ranges and will be less affected by wind, so effectively you're always better off using heavier BBs at long range>>245314if it actually fires and sounds good, and doesnt have a lot of wear on a lot of hard/expensive to replace parts then i guess that is a good dealbuying used is just a meme because the people who have this hobby act like crack addicts and will scam you with their used trash so they can get their next fix. i generally wouldn't buy used unless if it was some kind of gun i was intending to fuck around or use as a project
>>245314>L85 "carbine"Why did you buy farbshit that doesn't exist as a real gun?
>>239236>>239188this is from a while ago but i'm seriously considering dremeling something like this into the G&G m14 gearbox. not even just for the quick change feature, but also so i can assemble the fucking thing without it exploding on me. something like the f2000 quick spring change system *should* fit in, since it's like a big block you drop in, if i could get a spare one somehow
>>245318Seems to fire alright, and there's no end of autists on YouTube taking them apart and fixing them. Thanks for the heads up though >>245328Firstly, it's an Airsoft gun, not a real gun. Secondly, a carbine variant did exist and the l86 handguard also exists. It's not outside the realm of possibility that such a frankengun could've been cobbled together (albeit needing a brand new mid length barrel). Thirdly, fuck you I think it's cool
>>245331it looks like shit. Get better taste
>>245303Increasing BB weight, easilyHeavier BBs retain their velocity for longer and are significantly less affected by wind; a .20g BB at 1.5J and a .30g BB at 1J will reach a target at 150' at the same time, but the latter won't be slow enough at shorter ranges to matter while also being substantially less susceptible to wind and general air resistanceExplosive Enterprises made a damn good video on the matter, so here you go; it's eight minutes and change and is more informative than most other content on the matterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtYlIpIq2Xk>>245314G&G's internals leave much to be desired AFAIK but if your goal is to have an SA80 of some kind then hey, not many options so here's hoping it lasts a long while and that parts replacement is straightforward in the event that you need to do it>>245328>>245332I'll give (You) one response, as a treat: bitching about a gun being "farb" when the person running it isn't doing an impression kit makes me instantly picture you as either a 450-pound chairsofter who can't walk from the basement to the fridge to grab a Pepsi without nearly fainting from a blood pressure spike, or a hypercaffeinated fucktard who wears knockoff-Crye clothing to Walmart and claims he would've joined the military but he would've punched out his DS/DI to try and sound cool when he instead sounds like an undisciplined manchild
>>245339farbing is for fags and if you're not gonna do it right don't do it at all. If you show up to the field with a farbshit I and my team WILL laugh at you
>>245339I'm not well versed on ballistics but it's basically that, all else equal, heavier projectiles have a better ballistic coefficient?I'm wondering how to accurize some of my stuff, and I'm worried about going for too heavy of a bb weight, and then putting my joule count up too high in an attempt to get more velocity.
>>245342Your team sounds like a bunch of losers desu so let them laugh. Is this an American thing? Because here in the UK everyone just uses whatever kit they feel like unless it's specifically a milsim game, or some kind of reenactment
>show up to a game that allows full auto and higher joules>like 70% of the players doing HPAat least the machine gunner with 1200 RPM had the balls to run a full steel gun. but what happened? why is everyone blowing their rent on the funny hose gun instead of using an AEG and playing the "keep your gun from exploding" minigame? >>245388i cosplay an OC donut steel i invented in my head and i wholeheartedly believe it is both more fitting and less cringe than larping as military in the plastic bb hide and seek
>>245396Because HPA is more reliable.
>>245397i get the use of HPA for some wacky high power builds like DMR or LMG since some those guns naturally disagree with their own existence and you may genuinely not have any other option, but i can't really understand putting in a HPA engine into a basic ass M4 so you can shoot like 1.5 joules with it. like yes you get a better trigger response and you can go fuller retard with full auto if allowed but at the end of the day its just plastic BB larp and now you got a hose coming out of your gun because you were too lazy to open up your GB every dozen games or soi guess there is some merit to just having a boring forever-gun that does everything and always works but for me i'm more of a "model kit" type player
>>245399>i can't really understand putting in a HPA engine into a basic ass M4 so you can shoot like 1.5 joules with itReliability and trigger response.t. had a 1.1 J M16
>>245399Idk I like to buy something, and then have that thing work. I know for a lot of people the tinkering is part of the hobby but it's not for me.
>>245429oh yea im the exact opposite, i like putting in new parts and seeing how they affect the gun, comparing reddit advice (tm) to my own intuition, and when i actually field a high intensity build i'm constantly thinking "yeah fucker i dare you to break"the only thing gets annoying is if the disassembly and especially reassembly is detrimental due to a gun's design. some designs are good and you can basically open them up after every game easily, but others can take several hours and just working with them can cause wear or damage to certain stuff like wiring
>>245520I think my big thing is I'm a ref first, a salesman second, a tech third, and a player fourth. I want everyone to have something good, I want to sell them something they don't have to work on if they don't want to, I want to sell them something I MYSELF don't have to work on, and finally I've got things I'd rather spend my time on than tinkering with my airsoft gun. Airsoft has a lot less easy choices for new players; everything has caveats and there aren't a lot of things that are good out of the box and that's super frustrating. I tell people if money's no object to just get an MTW but a $900 setup is a lot harder to sell than a $200 setup
How much of an issue is a high humidity environment for GBBs in general?I have a couple limited Marui collectable pistols that I don't intend to actually shoot much and I'm worried the metal pieces might start getting fucked up with rust over time on my not-very-airtight display cases. It's usually 60-70% RH where I live, but I got a dehumidifier for my room recently, though I don't leave it running all the time because they're power hogs.Is periodic dusting and maintenance enough to keep them in good shape? Also, how different is it for actual non-TM metal replicas? I don't actually know what alloys manufacturers use for these things and by extension how suceptible they could be to humidity damage.
>>245629Keep them oiled. A lot of the metal on airsoft guns is Zimak so it's non-ferrous and won't rust but if you keep them oiled it'll keep moisture from the parts that are
>>245629Majority of "metal" airsoft guns are made out of a zinc-aluminium alloy, with some being straight aluminum and rare expensive collector's pieces sometimes being steel; the former and middle are by far more common, however, and aren't nearly as susceptible to corrosionClean out any factory lube and apply Super Lube 21030 (multi-purpose synthetic grease, literally the best lube for almost every GBB application; for some very tiny parts like magazine release valve stems an equal mixture of it with some Super Lube 51004, its oil equivalent, to produce a thinner grease may be wise, but for most applications you may find yourself needing lube for 21030 is perfect) to any moving components to keep them moving smoothly; if any parts are made of steel it's wise to apply grease to them regardless of if they're in regular contact with other components just to provide an extra layer of protection from humidity
>>245587yea that makes sense. though i still think value AEGs are a sort of a better starting point for most airsoft players, because it gets them into the correct mindset that these are cheap, disposable toys that constantly crack and break when you actually use them. someone might think that their $1000 HPA build should now be top of the line since it costs twice as much as the real rifle that it is trying to copy, but it can still have some fault that ultimately tracks down to "it's airshit"i think the hardest part of acquainting someone with the hobby is making them understand 1) how shitty airshit stuff is in general and 2) how you can save money by buying the correct things for your needs. like you can spend $150 on a cyma AK or $350 an LCT AK, and yet they're the same levels of airshit, only one has steel in it. or you can make the mistake of only spending $100 and getting some shitty low power AEG that is complete irredeemable garbage. then there's also the hidden tax that you pay for a licensed gun, and the tax you pay when you buy anything that is too "unique" (anything that isnt a common V2 or V3 layout), or the tax you pay when you buy a gun type that has no real competition to drive down the prices.most people who get into airsoft are poor as shit, especially here, so a newbie making one bad purchase can be such a bad experience that they tend to just give up. our stores are very complicit in this, they keep telling people to buy the wrong cheap shit, and i have NO idea why, because if they actually told them to get the fucking specna flex instead of whatever sportsline crap they shuffle in their hands, they would come back to buy BBs too. instead they make sure that dude never plays another airsoft game after he gets laughed out of his first one. for what it's worth, many players in my area have wisened up to this and boycott these stores and sometimes will outright donate a spare AEG to one of these kids when they show up.
>>245587>>245744>though i still think value AEGs are a sort of a better starting point for most airsoft players, because it gets them into the correct mindset that these are cheap, disposable toys i should add that i have no experience selling airsoft or reffing (where the issues would become apparent) so i truthfully i trust your assessment more. i'm just basing this on how i think i would have preferred to approach the hobby if i was just now starting in 2025
https://discord.com/channels/531031882880647170/549361525022916608/1430928337445978172 if you are in the HRC discord this is what the average USER looks like
About to get into the Novritsch™ ecosystem with the SSP18. Is dealing with him (them) as bad as Reddit says it is, or is it just bandwagoning?I want a Glock shaped gun for a holster I intend to use (which costs more than the gun), and it that has a lot of the upgrades I would want anyway, like the lightweight slide, the grip, the hop up, the barrel setup, etc. I also like how it looks, aside from the ugly logo (heh). I don't mind having to mainly buy Novritsch™ brand accessories/parts for it, if that guarantees they fit instead of being the usual "oh it sort of fits if you work on it" affair with airsoft aftermarket tolerances.The only other alternative I've really come across is the ICS ICP, but I just can't find much information or support for it. Or just buying a TM/KJW Glock and praying it doesn't suck after switching out half the parts.Any input? The only thing I haven't decided on is the mags. I was hoping to only use extended magazines but I'm not sure which ones are goodest/cheapest for it, if any (aside from the Novritsch ones)
>>245789>person above has unanswered question from liek 6 hours agopoetry
>>245790>just bandwagoning?just bandwagoning really. I've bought a decent amount of stuff from there and never had any complaints. Haven't seen any nov guns shit themselves on the field either. The MK23 mags they make are the best out there cause they don't have the retarded crosspin that causes leaks
>>245744We have to sell AEGs because they're at the price point for new players. But the problem is that it's a fucking minefield finding a good gun at the price point for entry. I'll talk to my guys about the Specnas because those seem super fucking nice and at a great price point at least according to evike but we'll have to look at a direct dealer account with them. We do G&G right now for our entry stuff but unfortunately it's a bit higher than we'd like to offer. We were doing the Elite Force bundles because they had a battery and charger and were pretty goddamn decent at $150 or so with a nunchuck and a charger, and at least were repairable and upgradable, but I'd like something better at the $200 or so point.What's hilarious is that paintball actually has had this shit figured out for a long time and it's HPA; the Emek and Etha are absolutely fucking bulletproof and at a decent price point; ours have millions of rounds through them and the worst I've seen mess up on them are bolt guides cracking at the ports, a $20 part that takes 5 minutes to replace. The problem with AEGs are if a gear shears it takes like an hour to replace it and it's a pain in the ass, and that's if you have a quick change gearbox. And a lot of them just don't fucking stand up to rental usage. >>245790We've carried novritsch at our store for four years or so now and I don't think I've ever had to work on one. They might have weird parts compatibility things and a lower upgrade ceiling but they're turnkey.>>245745Unfortunately I'm probably less capable of pointing someone in the right direction than a lot of players; it's not my main hobby and I don't get a lot of trigger time in so I don't get to really run a lot of guns a lot, so everything I can tell someone is anecdotal. For the longest time G&G was my go to recommendation but I've had some weird shit going on with their ETUs being picky about battery level recently. I'll look into a Specna account though.
>>245827G&G seems a bit of a bad value proposition these days for your average renter/newbie gun. i own 3 G&G guns and they've mostly been overpriced, though i still like them because they stand out among all the M4s and AKsi haven't bought any of their guns but specna arms do seem to be very good value. though their quality assurance also seems to have been a bit spotty from what i've read. that said, i think you're best off running them stock so you can warranty return any lemonscyma also makes some cheap guns but i think nowadays you're best off only picking guns out of their platinum line to stay competitive
>>245827>The problem with AEGs are if a gear shears it takes like an hour to replace it and it's a pain in the ass, and that's if you have a quick change gearbox.yea also this is an understated part of AEG ownership. getting to the gearbox and having an easy assembly/disassembly is a godsend. some guns require only like 10 minutes to replace a part in, while others are like an 1-2 hour ordeal. airsoft bullpups like p90s have gearboxes that you can just pull out of the back of the gun and get right to work
>>245833I'll look into grabbing a couple to try out. The Combat Machine line is what we're thinking of going to for rentals, and we've sold a few of the Battos and they're solid for the price point, but just a bit higher than we want to sell intro guns at definitely.
Anyone own a KJW/ASG Shadow? Wondering if they're worth a shit.
>>245880Not an owner but given that it shares an OEM with the P-09 and KJW CZs seem to see frequent use in IPSCAA (and have a decent amount of CLPD aftermarket as a result) I'm sure it's at least decent
>>245792this kind of reminds me of a thought i had while browsing through pistols. maybe someone who has owned a lot of GBBs can weigh in. i would see this over and over again on reddit or airsoft forums etc.>"don't get the <x>, get a WE because it's slightly cheaper and you can just upgrade it"like that to me spells out that there are a lot of people who sought to save a bit of money by buying a WE, realized it was crap, then bought 100 dollars worth of upgrades for it. and now they're telling other people online to do the same. it was revealed to me in a dream that the tolerances in a budget pistol are going to be pretty wacky, so i assume that even with upgrades, it will never be as good as a stock TM or a novritsch or what have you
>>245920crabs in a bucket basically. They're either retarded or poor and want others to be the same. They think their WEs with "upgrades" are "just as good" as better brands
>>245922desu i think it's possible to get a really good gun out of anything if you win the factory lottery and work on it enough, but i just don't see the point when you can pay a bit of extra to avoid that rigamarole altogether. seems especially silly with GBB pistols when they're relatively cheap to begin with, and it's the magazine/gas that make up most of the costs. maybe people just really like the aspect of making their own pistol
>>245925there are objectively worse systems. A WE will never be better and more reliable than a Tokyo Marui. Buying a WE and then spending more on "upgrades" is a waste of money.
How many shots do you think is fair for a burndown test?
Did anyone EVER manufacture an original Springfield Armory XD-9 Gen 1 replica? All I'm able to find are the XDM/XDE-whatever successors, but the original must be an absolute unicorn because I cannot find even a mention of one ever existing at all.
>>246033Posted the wrong pic, but the point stands.
>>246034Probably not? Maybe they did the croat one but I doubt it
No one makes a mini 14 right?
>>245847You are an absolute retard. The mechanical trigger contacts will fuck up in like 30k rounds.Spend the extra cash and go for the ones that come with a MOSFET, and then your rentals will actually come back instead of playing once, deciding the gun is a POS, basing their entire opinion of the games/sport on it, and then never coming back.
>>246037What you are looking for is called a Viva arms ranch boy. However, I can only seem to find HK and Leafistan sites selling those. YW anon.
>>246037Sorry bud, Looks like you are SOL unless you live in one of these countries.
>>246040That's a 10/22 cosplaying as a Mini 14
>>246043Looks like double bell makes an aeg version.
Honestly I'd take an m14 with an ar mag adapter
Fuckin' mag won't take more piss. Is it because it's 55* out?
>>246070Try putting some poo in it
>>246039>playing once, deciding the gun is a POS, basing their entire opinion of the games/sport on it, and then never coming back.lol this, better to give a newbie a specna arms with 11.1v lipo so they don't immediately feel outgunned. not that i can tell others how to run their fields but i would run rentals at a loss if i needed to, just so those players dont have a shit experience.
>>246071But then it will smell like poo.
>>245847Pardon me if I come off as harsh but please for the love of God stop falling for the Combat Machine meme, they haven't been good value picks since 2012 to the point that there are comprehensive breakdowns of why they're hot garbageGet a bunch of Specna EDGEs, use the QCS to change it to the M90 if it's shooting too hot for the field, run them on LiPos (7.4v for marginally better longevity, 11.1v for actual performance since the things can actually handle them) and watch as they both perform considerably better and last considerably longer>>246033>>246034Nope, TM was the first to make an XD and it was an XDM-40 Will say that the XD-9 you posted looks a lot nicer than the XDM though, don't know how to describe it>>246037Double Bell *just* released an electric Mini-14 (specifically an AC-556) within the past month through Octagon for $175USD + shipping, no idea what the internal situation is like but allegedly it is capable of using AR AEG mags along with its own Mini-14-styled mags; a GBB model would be pretty neato even if I have to accept that it's a long way out>>246070Colder mag and warmer reservoir means gas flows more readily into the lower-pressure environmentWarmer mag and colder reservoir means gas doesn't flow at all since the mag is potentially already at or above the pressure of the reservoirMy guess is that the mags, which have been in pouches closer to your body, are considerably warmer than the gas tank that's likely been sitting out without any heat source to keep it warmIf that's not the case, then check if your gun's spitting clouds of liquid propane when you shoot with those mags because you might just be overfilling your mags and that has its own problems
>>246039>>246074>>246078I can order some of the Flexes or Edges, and we have the Battos in the store right now. The Battos have MOSFETS and ETUs so I'm not sure what the Specna has over those. What kind of testing methodology would be acceptable to try and shake problems out of either; case of BBs in semi? I haven't seen many problems with the G&G stuff other than picky ETUs as described before, but I'm always open to trying new options. Also, I absolutely agree on spending good money on rentals; trust me, if Planet Eclipse made airsoft that's what all of our guns would be. We also discussed just putting Nexxus units in our rental fleet and being done with it, but I think we're gonna order just one or two of a couple of different things to get some longetivity tests on all of them. I will be a bit of a pedantic fuck though and say this: technically rentals should never operate at a "loss", they're a high initial cost that becomes nearly pure profit once the break even point has been established; the only way they'd be a loss is if the cost of maintenance or replacement would outstrip the money coming in from rentals on a yearly basis, and at that point I'd blame that on the guns being shit.
>>245388>Is this an American thing?No. The places I go to don't care what you wear unless it's a milsim event, And even then, the organizers aren't anal enough to care as long as you fit the loose dress code since you're never going to get 50 people wearing authentic north vietnamese army gear.
>>246112I am inclined to say that the specna edge family of guns are shite. The motor is held in by thin plastic tabs on the bottom of the grip. This means that motor height is never stable leading to increased wear on the internals. Also I have had issues with electronics in the buffer tube stock.The connectors are secured with some type of weird see-through no heat shrink wrap type of thing,not soldered on i(please correct me if I am wrong.)meaning your entire system can fail if the wires are compressed in the stock should you adjust it.Can’t speak for the ak’s tho
man i hate autumn its getting too cold and dark for outdoor game
>>246254All it means is that tracer units are even more fun.Fall-Autumn-Winter is peak airsofting IMO.
>>246285Fuck that shit. I'd rather stay at home building model kits
>>246285100%. Once you get moving when it’s 30-50 degree weather, it feels great. >>246310I’ll never understand why fat losers with no cardio (aka the majority of airsofters) only want to play in the summer. They layer on all this gear that’s just for looks on the days when it’s 90-100 out and are physically spent in like 30 minutes. Gotta take a few hours to recover while chit chatting about their gear. All the big games have to be in the summer too because these same people can’t fathom spending some dough on a base layer since nobody can see it.
>>246366desu i cant speak for others but i can sorta manage with the cold, i just dislike that it gets dark so early in my northern shithole. that means games have to be played much earlier when i would prefer to sleep in. and if there's snow or ice then fuck it i'd rather stay home and wait for spring
>>246366Because I only run gbbrs and have other hobbies besides airsoft. Shitsofting in the winter doesn't make you a "badass"
>>246388Why would you buy a gun that doesn't work in rough temperatures?
this sotac SRO M-13 is actual dogshitany good SRO repros? or a repro of something similar? (I hate RMRs)
>>246398Because it's more fun than AEGs and HPA and I don't play in the winter
>>246402Evolution Gear or Holy Warrior
>>246404missed that they've also made an SRO, thank you anonymous.man fuck, sotac has made my favorite repro optic(the sotac c-more) but how in the fuck do you make a sight this bad and think it's okay for you to sell it?
just ordered $300 worth of more shit that i'm not sure i'll use but damn is it gonna feel great peeling it all out of the boxwas also gonna buy a barrel for my pistol in hopes that i could make it shoot considerably farther and hotter for some sort of pistol sniper meme, but i realized i have no idea how to work on GBBs yet so i elected not to do that
I need recommendations. I want a Glock style gun - preferably actually a Glock with markings. Optional but wanted - optics cut. I heard good things about umarex Glocks, wgc has all that I could want but it's a bit pricey. Do they even ship umarex asia only versions to yourope? Any other ideas for reputable shops or glocklike things that will survive me beating on them training in the basement during off season?
>>246472>but it's a bit priceycant speak for your specific case and generally i have nothing useful to add, but the general rule in airsoft is that wanting something more specific, like authentic markings, causes an instant and considerable price increase because stuff like that gets produced in smaller quantities and sold at greater margins, which means a shittier deal overall for (you)i cant tell you its a bad idea to pursue your specific niche since ive done it several times and stubbornly stand by most of them, but i think its better to load up on "fuck it" beforehand because you will get shaken down whenever you turn from a hobbyist to an enthusiast
