40+ anons. What martial arts do you train? When did you start? Do you train/lift outside of martial arts? I'm looking to get back into judo/boxing but i'm an old fat piece of shit right now. Any suggestions for training smart as an old guy?
>>243996>Any suggestions for training smart as an old guy?You need to take it slow, do not pull/strain anything. Its just the way it is when you are older and have not kept in shape. Zone 2 cardio for 30 minutes, with some HIIT profiles at the end. Don't over do it, there is plenty of time to get back in shape. Light weight lifting, light meaning you have to train/condition your tendons and they grow/recover more slowly than muscles. Stretching, lots of easy streteching. I would start with boxing, slowly, learn to wrap your hands so you go not injure them. Super important to learn combos - head/body, body/head. Learn Mauyi Thai eblow strikes - very very effective at close range. Elbow if very hard, you can also eblow strike someone in the arm, leg, back, its like hitting someone with a ball peen hammer. For self defense just walk away of possible, but do not turn your back. If conflict use your pepper spray first (at distance) gives you huge advantage if you need to strike afterwards. Learn to front kick (and distance) to stop approaching thug, then spray. Its all part of the training, it all works together. You need to realize as you get older you just get a bit slower, a bit weaker, and less endurance. The focus on self defense helps you to do those things that may actaully help if you need it.
>>243996Mark Rippetoe's (Starting Strength) publishing company put out a good book which discusses training around age and injury.https://aasgaardco.com/category/books-posters-dvd/
>>244205>Mark Rippetoeoh yeah, the obese guy who could not run 100 yards. Should listen to him
>>244206While Rippetoe is respected within his specific niche in the strength training world his name isn't on this book, his company just published it. Even if he did have something to do with the writing there's value in listening to busted-up old guys who can tell you how to avoid their mistakes and there's value in listening to prolific coaches who have experience working with a huge number of clients of different ages and needs.
>>244209op asked about martial arts, not fatty lifting. These are distinctly different. The concept of martial arts is to use skill against weakness to give you the ability to defend yoursel. Rippfat attack food and destroys it on the regular.
>>244214You are more illiterate than Rippetoe is fat.
>>244216>You are more illiterate than Rippetoe is fat.at least I am not fat claiming to be fitness expert Mbassa, no go back to pretending to read. Its all so tiresome.
>>244273>fat claiming to be fitness expertRippetoe is fat claiming to be a strength coaching expert, which he is (I'm not aware of a better description of the squat and how to coach it than what he wrote in "Starting Strength"). Sullivan, the main author of "The Barbell Prescription," is a doctor, marital artist, and strength coach for old people whose area of experience and expertise is exactly what OP requested.
Im 35, Im advanced in Karate, Muay Thai, Boxing and wrestling. I could easily break the ribcage of an untrained weakling and confident enough to go toe to toe with anyone within my height range +/- 40lbs.
>>243996Judo, fencing, escrima. All very casually. I've done some kind of martial arts since I was a teenager and I've never had to diet or do normal exercise before, but I've been a fattie in a desk job for the past 12 years and it's left my body broken and embarrassing. I don't have much time or money but I do what I can. Sometimes my back will start hurting so much I have to stop and stretch. I do weightlifting and cardio at the gym to try and keep up with the younger guys. I've never had to do that before. Before I'd just get fit from doing the martial art. As a lowly office worker I need all the exercise I can get. Since I'm fat I outweigh most everyone so it's not like I'm easy to push around or anything. Experience counts for a lot too. Most guys I train with are young and thin, but that also means inexperienced and lightweight. Still, it's all very discouraging, knowing that I can fight these kids but I can't fight Father Time. But it's still a million times more interesting than just lifting and jogging. All physical traits are use it or lose it, even if you're young. Mental traits too, I guess. You gotta always be doing something. Stillness is stagnation, movement is lubrication.
>>244198I'm trying to go slow. I'm about a week into 5x5 Stronglifts. I'm going to wait a couple of months before I start judo again because I should probably lose some weight before rolling around. I hurt my back doing barbell rolls on stronglifts before, had to take a break from lifting and judo. If I get hurt again, i'm thinking i'll just start doing body weight exercises and muay thai, and try to lose more weight than i'd like. I'm going to start incorporating yoga to help with flexibility and tendons and all that. but yeah right now the plan is to go slow, build muscle and flexibility and lose a little weight.>>244205thx anon, i might look it up. i'm trying to not overload myself with info because that's an endless road to go down. the guy on the cover looks at least 60 lol.>>244343that's a hell of a work load, good for you man. i'm mainly interested in judo/jujitsu for grappling and muay thai for striking. I wish kung fu worked because it looks cool as fuck. part of me died inside when I was younger and realized kung fu is worthless for defense, but I do recognize it's mental and physical attributes.>>244482i love fencing, i took a few classes when i was younger. i wish i had endless time and money to be able to train all the things i want. but you can only walk one path at a time i guess. I'm overweight and out of shape and i'm trying to fix that, but i haven't really had any physical issues at all, other than popping something in my back a while ago while doing barbell rows. i go back and forth between deciding whether or not to stay kind of big/chunky but strong and focus on grappling, or losing more weight to get more limber to prevent injuries.
>>244209THANKS FOR THE MILK, MARK>>243996Judo will teach you how to fall. That's why I would place it before boxing, that's not to say that you shouldn't do boxing.
>>244482>I'm fat>>>/fit/76077351>>>/fit//fat/>>244561>I should probably lose some weight >>>/fit/76077351>>>/fit//fat/>thx anon, i might look it up. i'm trying to not overload myself with info because that's an endless road to go down.If you're already dealing with training injuries I might suggest either pirating or buying a digital copy and doing a Ctrl+f search for recommendations around that specific injury (it doesn't have everything but it has some of the common ones). I used my digital copy as a reference before buying a physical copy to read outright. Pic related are some excerpts I was discussing with a friend who was struggling to bench with a recurring shoulder injury.>>244578>Judo will teach you how to fall. That's why I would place it before boxingVery solid suggestion. It sounds like OP used to do judo so he should already know how to drill ukemi. Adding this to his daily routine could do a lot towards injury prevention.
