those that aim to redirect the oponent's energy, like aikido, hapkido, daito ryu, taijutsu, etc. i'm kinda interested in them, especially taijutsu and hapkido, but dunno what i should expect exactly (in order to not fall into a mcdojo), so if anyone has experience in them please share, as well as your thoughts on them
>>246396Wrestling and judo are the sameIf you push they pull and redirect your energy. If they pull, you push.
anon... sorry to be the one to tell you but this isn't real...
>>246408This summarizes it well. Furthermore: OP, what you're referring to is just a philosophy. It can be used in every single human endeavor that involves confrontation, ill willed or not. Personally, I believe it has a lot to do with Ju/Jiu (柔), which means soft, or gentle, but it can also have a meaning of "yielding", let your opponent over commit and then exploit his/her blunder. It can happen in boxing, chess, poker, car racing, etc. Doing so it's not easy anon, and many times you will come to find that attempting to assert your will will be more constructive, either to a victory or learning, than just staying passive. >in order to not fall into a mcdojoThere's plenty of guidelines about mcdojos. No sparring (very important for self defense), excessive emulation of oriental culture (but no real substance or understanding of it beyond surface level kowtowing), etcI assume you have no martial arts experience, and we don't know your motor skills: But I infer that you don't have any, and that the latter is just mid: Get into something simple dude: Hitting those flashy moves is not simple, and you will be learning far more effective stuff (for your skill level) in more mainstream martial arts like kickboxing, wrestling, boxing, muay thai, Judo, BJJ and Karate in that order. You can still apply the concept of using an opponents strength and what ever response you have will be far more easy to execute and as destructive.
>>246408i mean yeah, but those involve a lot of struggling in order to perform a takedown, while these ones are usually just making one move to throw the oponent. either way i didn't know what i should call them so "redirectional" made sense to me>>246420ooooh, yeah you're right, should've called them "soft" martial arts then, my bad.>to assert your will will be more constructivei agree, i just thought that it would be good to train, since i wanna train my falling technique (in order to not break or dislocate a bone when taken down)i've been doing taekwondo itf for a few months now, and used to do judo but the dojo i went to didn't have very good instructors (they simply told us "alright do this" and got into their phones, leaving the more advanced students actually teaching). so far i've improved my skills overall, but i'd like to keep practicing takedown focused martial arts. i guess goju-ryu or wado-ryu would've solved this but i have no dojos near me that teach it (﹏).also thanks for the info on mcdojos and the recs on martial arts :)
I love the way Aikido looks, and breakfalls are a genuinely useful skill to have. I won't really learn to hurt people, but it looks like a blast to do.
>>246409Not real but looks cool at least :)
>>246396It works really well if your opponent blindly throws their entire body at you. The problem is that people don't do that. Though admittedly, I HAVE used these moves successfully when I was attacked by a medium sized dog.
>>246437>breakfalls are a genuinely useful skill to haveyup, that's why i want to learn one of these soft martial arts, i mean i learned how to fall in judo but without practice it's useless :/>>246469>The problem is that people don't do thati guess you're right, though it would be useful if you're fighting a drunk or overall messy person who doesn't know how to fight well.>medium sized doglol, how did that go? i've been curious on how one should defend from a dog attack, since they're fast and if they jump on you you'll end up getting fucked up on the floor
>>246480You're living in a fantasy landIf you're "fighting" a person so drunk they can only shove their whole bodyweight into you like a zombie, then just low kick them and walk/jog away from themIf you're faced with an actual fight this shit will fail you massively. If you're going to waste time training you better do something proven to work against actual aggression
>>246490Ignore this nigger asshole OP. You do you, don't think too much about de streetz, half of it is bullshit
