Future Yokozuna edition>Banzuke:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspxhttps://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/>Fight Schedule & Results:https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/>Some sumo links and how to watch live:https://rentry.org/uwbgc88dPrevious thread>>245691
>Here's your prodigy back, kiddo
>>246513Who would Koga be given back toFutagoyama barely teaches him anything
We are now at 7 sumo threads still on the board that have not hit the image limit.
>>246514His father in the crowd.
>>246515The blame for this can be laid squarely at the feet of the danfag, whose intransigent fanboying caused this and every other problem in these threads.
What exactly CAN you teach Koga? If he doesn't have the willpower to eat enough to get bigger or train enough to get stronger then no amount of technique will get him anywhere. It's just like the Boss said, what really matters is spirit. With enough spirit even someone the size of Harumafuji can be a great Yokozuna.
>>246518We must teach him spiritWe should send a representative to japan
>>246516Do we have any screenshots of Kogas parents?
>>246521I think we've only seen his cousin at one of the camps he participated in
>>246517Retard.
>>246518
No more off basbo thread
>>246515
Excellent Chris video today, looks like Zak is in for the competition
>>246528Yikes. Kadoban in January incoming.
Dan participated in (and won easily) a children's sumo tournament with approximately 80 children from Suitengu Nursery School.
Hearing about Hosh saying that he is just now starting to train for a basho that starts fairly soon is pretty retarded sounding coming from a guy who is now starting to set records for futility as a yokozuna. I guess he just doesn't care or is otherwise unwilling to put in the effort necessary to demonstrate that he deserves the rank he was given.
Kotozakura's average wins per November basho is 14. Let that sink in.>uh but anon-That was Kotonowaka.
>>246528I want him to do well, back in the day i was sure he was yokozuna bound over hoshoryu
>>246535It's a shame he took the name of Kotozakura and didn't just come up with his own damn shikona. LARPing as your grandfather won't make you a Yokozuna.
>>246530Doesnt seem the same one but similar videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=assP0KwqpPQMaybe each stable went to a nearby children school?
>>246518Unironically Takahara or whatever that new kid's name is is kinda lighting a fire under Koga's ass, moreso at least then old man Futa. Also, new capcha: >New capcha>Have to do it twice>Have to do the old capcha now>Post Whew lads, 3 capchas just to post
>>246537>Can I get this kid medium rare?
>>246530He didn't win, he had four losses and only eleven wins.
>>246527>Baby Body Burger was the last properly done threadI warned you guys this would happen and now look
>>246522I really want to see the phenotypes that resulted in Koga
>>246545
>>246546>>246547>>246548We must preserve rare Japanese phenotypes
It just doesn't feel the same since he left.
>>246558Tbh the gyoji are all interchangeable and I cant tell how any of them do anything differently
>>246515>>246527It would be wise to use /sp/ full time instead, the bottom of the catalog includes threads that haven't had a reply in 20+ hours.
>>246562These threads wouldnt make it without me
>>246562It's better to be a big fish in a small pond than a small fish in a big pond. We should continue dominating /xs/ until we're given our rightful /sumo/ board. Origami gets a board, why not sumo?
>>246564xs stands for Xclusively Sumo
So far in the early stablemasters picks there's not only one nigga wasting his 'zuna pick on fucking Aonishiki, but someone putting it on Zak lmaoooooo.So far the Sato v Hosh pick split is 19 v 5.
>>246566I feel like 90% of people will have Onosato, Dan, WTK and Gonoyama
>>246561I really like the juryo gyoji that yells a lot and the one sanyaku gyoji that has a really loud hakeyoi
>>246569The crazy nigga who picked Aonishiki over Onosato has Takanosho as his lower Sanyaku pick. He's effectively picked Takanosho over Aonishiki and bet that both Yokozuna will have a garbage basho. Lmao I might remember this nigga's name and check up on his score. He's called Yamagona.But yeah, Onosato (22), WTK, and Gooneryama are popular picks (all at 11), with a good dose of KiriSHITma (10). Daieisho is at 14 picks. Dan (27) actually has more picks than Onosato right now which is wild since that basically means people are putting him over Onosato to yusho.
>>246566>Zak: oy vey muh knee heh heh heh, i'm totally injured for real. oh no looks like i'm gonna have to miss visiting turd world London and not training for a week and a half so i pose for selfies with Chris's cousins in jolly olde. >*spends all of october getting in shape while everyone else gets wimpier*zensho Zak show incoming.
I'm making my stablemasters picks now since the log in finally worked for the first time
>stables
>>246575umaaaaaa
>teru actually stands up and demonstrates moveshow will Futagoyama respond
>>246575It's not an inaccurate translation historically. Back when wrestlers were sponsored directly by daimyo, part of the sponsorship was that daimyo would set aside part of their estate holdings for sumo training. Both the toriteki's sleeping areas and the training dohyo would be located in an actual stable (cleared of animals obviously) while the sekitori were allowed personal rooms in the actual house.
>>246574Ganbare.
>>246577By eating too much, drinking heavily, and telling Roga to lead the morning practice. Oh Roga isn't here? Mita can do it, he's sekitori.
Reminder that Ochirsaikhan is going to be given the shikona of Asahifuji. And that Bukhchuluun is waiting in the wings to obliterate people. Some big prospects incoming. Ochirsaikhan would've joined Ozumo sooner but Teru held onto Isegahama's gaijin slot longer than expected. Pretty crazy to think that he was being held back by a Daiyokozuna.
>>246580>Koga, you have to *gestures vaguely* when your opponent gets the belt>Kotakiyama, stop losing to your younger brothers>New boy! Squat in the corner for the first six weeks!>You three, I want an early lunch today, stop practicing and go to the kitchen>Roga, however hard you try, I will always prefer Nabatame
>>246582He should start referring to Koga as Mienoumi. He'll either quit in shame or start getting real.
>>246581sumo has a new "the next big mong" every few weeks, nearly all of them end up being flops, the ones who turn out as well as katsu or chiyoshoma are rarities
>>246564Well don't come crying to me when someone gets pissed off that there are 27 sumo threads clogging up the board and we get forced to move to sp anyway.
>>246586nothing is "clogging up" the slowest board on 4chan
my picks > ur picks
>>246588>ShishiLet me guess. Slava Ukraini?
>>246389i would drink kirishima's rural mongolian sweat without any expectation of compensation and/or reward, so branded sake is a piece of cake
>>246589Did you pick Roga?
>>246587The fact that it is the slowest board is precisely the reason why it will clog it up. If you guys would stop thread warring and making a new thread at 300 posts we could be civilized, but no.
>>246598You know anonI did my best to keep things in lineI told them all of this before, multiple timesDid anyone listen? No. How many dan posts have you seen? Thousands. That FUCKER did all of this. All of it. Every single problem in these threads can be laid at his feet and nobody else's. That piece of shit should be fucking killed but you chumps only humor him. And only NOW you have the gall to complain. By rights I should leave you all to his mercy again like I did the last few months. Have you been enjoying them?
>>246561>gyoji are all interchangeable*pinches you*
>>246598>>246602
>>246602I should clarify I'm not complaining, I think the situation is hilarious. I was around when /vg/ was forcibly created because of endless Starcraft 2 thread creation drama and god that was so fucking funny to see. The sprit of those retards clearly lives on here in this thread.
Spooky in here.
I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret here: it doesn't actually matter if we "clog up" /xs/ with threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91DnT_Ukdk4>Beya hosts little kids for morning training>Suddenly Okami-san reappearsShotacon BITCH.
>>246604easy with the projection Frank
>>246616I believe his character's name was Blain.
>>246577Hidenoyama has raised the stakes by actually physically training his rikishi
>>246620Even K*senosato gets hands on. At least with Onosato. Shirokuma can go fuck himself.
>>246621According to the latest Chris video Shirokuma is kicking Onosato's ass in practice. Also apparently Takakeisho is losing weight so fast because he has AIDS and according to Takakeisho's father, Keisho ended up as a manlet because he refused to eat properly as a child. And it looks like Yoshinofuji is going to be suspended for November because of his passport incident.
no way taker wins juryo this time with asanoyama and big mong both in there going for the crown.
>>246620Isn't Hiden the one currently being sued by his ex-manager or something? what's the story on that?
>>246623Crazy statement to make about Onosato v Shirokuma when it was 8-3 iirc. And Onosato is much larger than Shirokuma so I'm not too shocked that the latter would start taking wins eventually as Onosato tires.
>>246614I mean, it's either sumo threads or empty air
>Already in pain before the basho because of the flights
When's the maegeshira training session before the tournament?
>>246629Chris is making it sound like every wrestler that went to London is now compromised either by pain or lack of training.
>>246631Dan isn't
death, taxes, 11-4
>>246630We'll get the videos next week.
This newfags regurgitating chris posts era is making me miss the inane argument era a little.
Basho starts next week anon
pov: you are chanko
Never forget, 11-4
>>246640More like, POV: you are Aonishiki next year.
>>246643Still can't believe he broke his neck at the tachiai and had to take low paying work as a waiter.
>>246646imagine getting bred by that
>>246640>$10 million or the chance to wait this table?
>>246647For all we know there could be a woman under him in that picture.
>>246647yoritaoshi
There is more Ukrainian blood in the present sanyaku than there is Mongolian. Must be a long time since last time the mongs weren't the best represented foreign nation. The balance of power in sumo is shifting rapidly
>>246651Shut up idiot
>>246640some zunas already prefer dan's company
>>246638Just admit you're wrong and he's right.
>>246640Dang Kisenosato actually smiling? I wonder how much he had to drink by then.
>>246640How is Musashimaru still alive weighing 500 pounds for 30 years now...
>>246655hes smiling all the time in the nhk sloppa
Dan can store several days worth of chanko in the pouch under his chin
If Hakuoho puts up a KK then him and Onosato will be the only guys to put up 6 top division KKs this year.
>>246649>Women on the dohyo.
>>246652He's right though
>>246662Where did you find this picture of me with Gagamaru?
>>246640this thing is still going on? nice.
>>246640>that space in between Onosato and KisenosatoHakuho went to the bathroom when they snapped the pic.
>>246680Not a chance. JSA chads only.
>>246640Chriso posted a schizo vid about this being racist since Hakuho wasn't there.
>>246640im pretty new to this shiti assume thats a dinner celebration of all the Yokozuna that are still around? with one very specific exception?
saw this image from natto on a previous threadwhich basho was this on? i would like to check the match
>>246685
>>246684All the current and former yokozuna that are employed by the JSA. There are several former yokozuna who aren't in the picture, due to their retirement from the association, such as Takanohana, Harumafuji, or Asashoryu. It's a company event, so of course they aren't in attendance.
>>246687oh i seeI imagined most of them would still be under the JSA except Hakuho since their falling off seemed way bitterThen again im new to this shit so its probably just recency biasThank you anon
>>246686not easy to find old boutsTy
>>246688Harumafuji and Asashoryu were forced out of the JSA due to scandals, Takanohana played the game of thrones and lost, Wakanohana didn't stick around for long and tried to get into American football, Akebono lost the support of his fan club and had to become a pro wrestler and MMA fighter to put food on the table, Futahaguro was expelled without being consulted - him and Akebono died relatively recently and so wouldn't be at the table regardless. The JSA's retention rate for former yokozuna hasn't been great these past forty years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v5FCpcDEA4SLOPPANDESU
>>246688A lot of Yokozuna act like hot shit once they retire and think the rules don't apply to them when they start as Elders in the middle of the pack. Then reality hits and it turns out that being good on the dohyo doesn't translate to being a good oyakata or being a higher up in the JSA. >HarumafujiGlassed a maegashitter that was acting uppity. Said maegashitter ended up also being yeeted because he was actually an uppity retard. >AsashoryuPunched a reporter>TakanohanaActed like hot shit as an elder and got burned once reality hit. >WakanohanaJust left>AkebonoDisgraced himself by going into some serious debt>Futagahurolollmao>HakuhoActed like hot shit inside the dohyo was uppity when a match didn't go his way. Literally made enemies of basically every elder as a wrestler. Then scandals happened at his stable and he actively covered them up. Couldn't hack being under another elder for 2 years and kwabbed out. That being said, Harumafuji is the only one that is actually liked by the JSA from those and actually shows up to official events and pictures.
>>246692Made me google FutagahuroI assumed that by default the JSA would take of living yokozunas with little jobs at the organization, promotional ambassadorial shit, but if you want to go an step further and become an oyakata or actually get some responsability in the organization then that requires something else beyond wrestling skillsBecoming an oyakata seems like a hard job, and as you mentioned not everybody will be cut for that no matter how dominant on the clayThank you anon
>>246691It seems exaggerated how the rest of wrestlers rush to stop the bout the second is overI mean anything that might prevent a wrestler falling or an extra hit might end up being beneficial but it seems performative who they rush to stopI have so much to learn
>>246691>>246694another question thenWhy some of those training mawashi are neatly tucked in the front while others (worn by higher ranks i remember aonishiki with one) have that "kitchen towels roll" in the center front
>>246694They aren't rushing to stop the bout, they're rushing to be picked as the next opponent. The winner stays on, and he will choose who he wants to fight next. If you fail to get his attention, or if he just doesn't feel like he has anything to gain from fighting you at that point, you simply don't get to do any practice bouts. Your oyakata will also criticise you if you don't show eagerness by rushing in and asking the winner to fight you next.
>>246697ohi thought that kind of shit would be scheduled so everybody got rounds in with extra effort being shown to those that are climbing ranks or somethingAny input on the different mawashi? >>246695
>>246699The white mawashi means they are sekitori, meaning a salaried wrestler in the top two divisions. The "roll" in front is just an extra bit of cloth that has their shikona written on it. Most of them tuck it up as you see there but they occasionally come loose.
>>246699Different rank groups will do bouts at different times during morning practice, starting from the lowest. That's why it was Shunta and Kikuchi rushing in while Nobehara and Denuma and all the rest stand around the walls, doing various warm-ups. If it wasn't like that, nobody would ever bother to fight against Jonidan men, because there'd be no challenge and nothing to learn. The system, as it is, ensures that if someone's on good form, they'll stay on and have more opportunities to practice, but that comes at the expense of weaker men. It's down to the individual to carve out more chances to improve himself. This is why most stables have a handful of men who never seem to improve - they aren't given the support and training that they need, and aren't competent enough to self-improve.As for the mawashi, I believe that it's just a result of them being messed up during practice. Some men prefer a looser tie on their mawashis to try and hinder opponents from getting a good grip, so that would make them particularly prone to getting messed up. A man with a neat mawashi probably hasn't been exerting himself very much.
Man Kazuma got put straight to the ms15 zone from sd26 after his 7-0. Really hope he can go 7-0 again. We need that ugly bastard presence in sekitori ranks
>>246688Around half aren't under the JSA at all. If we go backwards through retired 'zuna to the 90s:>TerunofujiStill in the JSA.>KisenosatoStill in the JSA. Future chairman.>KakuryuStill in the JSA.>HarumafujiForcibly retired for his extreme hinkaku levels.>HakuhoToo based for the JSA to handle.>AsashoryuProbably the only one who deserved to be forced into retirement desu.>MusashimaruStill in the JSA. Lacks the brainpower to oppose anything they tell him to do.>WakanohanaDespises the JSA.>TakanohanaDespises the JSA.>AkebonoWanted none of the JSA's bullshit. Also dead.>AsahifujiStill in the JSA.I think a lot of it comes from the whiplash of retiring as king of the sumo world and becoming just a regular pleb in the JSA. All that ego and self confidence means nothing when a nameless middle manager tells you to go clean the toilets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8orMLs5FLo>Starts talking about the Yokozuna meetup>"However there's only a net gain of one because there's someone missi-"This guy genuinely masturbates to the thought of Hakuho.Also Endo is becoming Kitajin which apparently is the only kabu to never be used for a stable, which is what he's going to be doing with it. Neat. I can see Onosato inspiring a mini wave of fresh recruits so Japan will probably need an extra couple of stables.
>>246711>the JSA's bullshitBe fair here. His fan club tried to force him into an arranged marriage, he was tired of the sumo world in general.
>>246713>His fan club tried to force him into an arranged marriagewat
>>246714nta but his supporters club announced his engagement to a TV celebrity without his say. This sounds insane but wasn't uncommon back in the day because part of the supporters club would be to find a suitable stable mistress for when the wrestler eventually retires and runs their own stable. Akebono broke it off which was seen by them as an insult and they dissolved their support, which left him unable to afford an elder stock when he retired, because to them it was rejecting the woman they approved of as the stable mistress and signifying he didn't have serious aspirations to fit in as a sumo elder if he was going to choose a wife they hadn't vetted first.
>>246715It's so incredibly insulting of his "supporter's club" honestly. That to them a Yokozuna is some trophy that they get to boss around because they're the ones holding the strings to his purse. Why did they think their opinion of who was fit to be Okami-san was better than that of a Yokozuna? Do they think they're more qualified to run a stable than a Yokozuna? God I hate Japanese people so fucking much. You just know that the woman they picked for Akebono was only picked because of some shady shit like blackmail.
>>246716>a Yokozuna is some trophy that they get to boss around because they're the ones holding the strings to his purseMoney makes the world go round, anon.
>>246718No it doesn't fuck you. Akebono was in the right to tell them to go shove it. Shame he couldn't manage the rest of his life though.
>>246715so he was dating this woman and they decided she was fit to marry him when they were just an early couple? or was his supporters club like>dude you should marry this tv ladyI assume the former
>>246719And if they were moneyhatting his operation to buy the elder stock, then they also can tell him to pound sand if they like.
>>246716A rikishi's supporters' association is serious business. They provide a lot of funding during his climb through the ranks, often paying for his kesho-mawashi. More importantly, they function as his primary social network - they're generally a collection of older professionals who know a lot of people, and will put their man forward for all kinds of opportunities that a man with a lesser fan club (or none at all) could never hope to have. When he becomes a yokozuna, the assumption is that he wouldn't have made it as far as he did without the tireless efforts of his official supporters. Thus, in a very real sense, a successful rikishi owes a tremendous debt of gratitude (the financial aspect is generally forgiven). Akebono's fan club fully expected him to go along with their ideas, because that was simply the way things were at the time - it's very likely that many of his contemporaries also had arranged marriages. His refusal to cooperate with that custom was seen as doubly insulting because he was a foreigner, and therefore held to higher standards than a Japanese rikishi might have been. Akebono's mistake, if you choose to call it that, was assuming that sumo life was all about the wrestling - it goes much further than that, and no man in the JSA has the freedom to do as he pleases.
>>246721Sure but it exposes them as awful people who couldn't care less about the Yokozuna they claimed to be supporters of.
>>246723No one is arguing against that, it's just the reality of the situation back then.
>>246723He's not a friend, he's being groomed as an investment. That's not necessarily an awful thing, especially if everyone involved knows what's going on. Akebono clearly didn't understand what he was getting himself involved in.
>>246725Have you considered that possibility that the people in his supporter's club were actually assholes even compared to regular supporter's clubs?
me typing up a post for /sumo/
>>246726No, because they didn't do anything unusual by the standards of the time and culture. We're only discussing them because Akebono defied them, there'd be nothing to talk about if he hadn't. It's still very common to see an announcement from a rikishi that he's marrying someone he met at a supporters' club event.
>>246719>Shame he couldn't manage the rest of his life though.Exactly, because he lacked the money because he pissed off the people with money. Oh well.
>>246729TIL Yokozuna make absolutely zero money and are dependent on handouts.
>>246731Akebono made so much money he had to resort to clowning around as an MMA fighter and making a mockery of himself in pro wrestling. A yokozuna makes money by leveraging his personal and professional contacts, that he met through his supporters' association. You can turn your back on the JSA, as Hakuho has done,and still do well for yourself, but when you turn your back on your social network then you're just a washed-up ex-fighter.
>>246731I think it's more that kabu were (are?) prohibitively expensive
>>246731Even yokozuna don't actually make enough to retire on if they're not an elder or have smart post-wrestling finances. Akebono had neither.
>>246731or they just squander it like most athletes
>>246715>Akebono broke it off which was seen by them as an insult and they dissolved their supportThe craziest part of this story is that Akebono's tsukebito was the one who proposed calling off the engagement and she agreed, again without consulting Akebono.
>>246737japan is silly
>>246734giwtwm
>>246737Wait what the fuck? Elaborate on this lmao
>>246743A TV show in 2017 got Akebono and his ex-fiancee (Yu Aihara) together to clear the air and she admitted that's what happened. She thought the tsukebito was relaying what Akebono wanted but he was acting on his own volition.
>>246744NTA but the tsukebito probably was relaying what Akebono had been telling him, but in confidence.
For a change of paceBefore the tachi-aiUsually one of the wrestlers has both fists on the clay ready, with his heels dug in, propped to explode while the other wrestler has the advantage of knowing exaclty when the match will start since it starts on his touchdownThat about correct? that both positions might have a different advantage?
>>246731Didn't Akebono also have a restaurant he poured a ton of his own money into? Plus you have to consider his lifestyle up into that point: as yokozunas everywhere he went and everything he ate was high class and comped. It's quite possible he was eating hundreds if not a thousand dollars a day on food. now imagine that lifestyle when you have to pay for it
>>246746The biggest advantages you can get with different styles of tachi-ai are mental. This is why you see so many mattas, even in the top division where nobody can reasonably be expected to be very nervous or inexperienced. One of the most important things people miss by watching Kintamayama/Natto style daily digests is the pre-bout staredowns and pseudo-starts that lay the groundwork for the eventual tachi-ai. Some rikishi are masters at throwing their opponents off balance before the fight even starts, and some are certainly not.
>>246748I used to watch the nhk highlights and when i moved to natto was incredibleIts obviously edited but he includes the matta which nhk didnt and you are right i was surprised there were that many
I hope we see another triple matta this month. They're so funny.
>>246750just watch juryo, those knuckleheads do it all the time.
>>246750It makes me sad that I've already seen the best matta sequence I'll ever witness.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrZW8LzPLks
next onosato just dropped, new jap uni yoko hiroki sugimoto190cm 175kg
>>246752I'll never understand anyone who says Hakuho was the one in the wrong here. Those were very obvious intentional mattas from K*senosato, and watching the fat fuck faceplant like that brings me endless joy.
You now remember that Kotoshoho won a basho in 2025 in which he thrashed Onosato and AonishikiThats all, carry on with your day.
>>246754Ochilsaikan and Bukchuluun haven't even debuted yet calm down faggot.
>>246756Imagine telling Kotozakura before July that he'll get to ride in the yusho car again.
>>246757>the next mitoryu and the next hokutomarunobody cares lol
>>246748>Some rikishi are masters at throwing their opponents off balance before the fight even starts, and some are certainly not.Hosh and his 30 minute staredowns, God I love them
>>246762>matta used by someone I don't likepetty, low-level, churlish>matta used by someone I likegenius, graceful, justified
>>246754>koga eyebrowsNGMI
>>246768natto used that argument with henkas after hoshoryu henka on the 14th day to ensure the yokozuna matchup last basho
>>246773natto isn't shy about his fanboyism so I'll at least respect his honesty over someone who tries pretending there's some noble standard to it.
>>246768funny how chris chimps about japs taking pride when their people wins, but is never offended when the mongs do the same
>>246775>but Hakuho didn't matta in that incidentBut he did in another incident, which meant he was the one doing the disrespect. Why is it petty low-level mind games if one guy is doing it, but not the other?
Is it just me or does the oyakata of tatsunami stable not show up? It feels like either the videos he's not there or they're hiding him from view
>>246779they used to show him standing around doing light exercise with the disciples
>>246780Yeah I remember vids showing him do shiki stomps but he's non existent now
Crazy to me that sumo stables can easily have 15+ guys but only two bathrooms
>>246782Not that strange. My university dorm was the same way.
>>246782only winners get to shit
>>246768This but unironically
https://x.com/Asashoryu/status/1984519810726969437Mongolian Warlord Morning Rising Dragon.
朝昇龍? Nah. Sounds like a dragon with a boner.
>>246778That wasn't a matta either. I'm sure you know that that's footage from Hakuho's last tournament, in which he scraped the bottom of his personal barrel to win at all costs while chronically injured and way past his best. Some of his fights and tactics in that basho were absolutely petty and disrespectful, because at that point he no longer cared. It's down to each individual observer to decide whether such a basho was better to watch than a basho in which an ailing Hakuho got his shit pushed in by Shoudai's charge, and so on.
>>246797>Some of his fights and tactics in that basho were absolutely petty and disrespectful, because at that point he no longer cared.Absolute midget-brained take.
>>246797>That wasn't a matta eitherhe did in this one >>246768
>>246798>t. wasn't watching Hakuho's whole career
>>246800I didn't have to to see he wanted to zensho.
I'm 31 and my knee is starting to hurt /sumo/-bros...
FUCK HINKAKUA yokozuna should be a master of all things sumo, and be able to use all and every technique and skill within the rules in order to achieve the victory.The onus is on the challengers to rise to his level, not on the yokozuna to handicap himself
Is sumo any useful for self-defense if I'm a turbomanlet (165/5'5")?A gym just opened close to my home and it looks fun but I feel like it's for heavy guys only.
>>246809Sumo is useless for self defence at any size, because the whole point of sumo is to charge head-on at your opponent and push him six feet backwards. If you're small and not experienced with striking or grappling, the best thing you can do for self defence purposes is to practice running away faster.
>>246811That makes sense.
>>246809what the other anon saidsumo is extremely specialized as it has a very niche goal and a complex set of rules to make that goal entertaining.For self defense you would be better served learning literally anything that will keep you in shape and teaches you to throw a punch, that puts you ahead of 90% of the population.But when possible de escalate and run.Shit ain't worth it
>>246809It's far from optimal for self defense, but it's better than nothing. It's a good supplement to other martial arts though.>>246811>Sumo is useless for self defence at any sizeIncorrect. Webm related.
>>246816Get that slampig into a mawashi, stat
>>246816Leaving aside the fact that she almost definitely isn't trained in sumo at all, who is she defending herself against?
>>246815>complex set of rulesComplex for you.
>>246816Nigga in the back fuckin' loling
>>246820might not have been the best choice of words, i meant to address the many limitations sumo has in what you are and not allowed to do during the bout
>>246822There's like 8. It's really pretty simple.
>>246816>Hikiotoshi>Oshitaoshi>Okuritaoshi
>>246824Obutayama no kachi
>>246774>someone who tries pretending there's some noble standard to itBut enough about Chris.
>>246819>who is she defending herself against?Society trying to tame her.
The kind of discourse you miss when you dont visit reddit
>>246844Go back.
>>246844I wonder how long they've been watching sumo for; 5 minutes, or 10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk1_HqF1kz0Not gonna lie that looks pretty UMA to me. Under the cheese is gyoza.
>>246850umai
>>246850Are there even rikishi at Tatsunami? Training is always the same four goobers plus Meisei. Has having a Yokozuna at the beya scared them off or something?
>>246850>I added some broccoli to it, therefore its healthy :)
>>246853A single head of broccoli sat on top of a kilo of melted cheese.
>>246853A) There's veggies in the gyozaB) Why would it need to be healthy? It just needs to be tasty calories.
>>246853Broccoli isn't considered to be a "necessary evil" healthy food in Japan. The stereotypical yucky vegetable is bell peppers.
>>246855You can't get big and strong by eating junk. The meat and veggies they usually eat is what gets them that way.
>>246859Nonsense. It's one course. They can have both.
>>246856Broccoli hate has always been unjust anyways, they taste fine.
>sup /ck/the slop views and posters should fuck off, they aren't here to discuss sumo
>>246856>Red pepperBased>Orange pepperLess based>Yellow pepperNot very based>Green pepperPut it back on the plant and give it time to ripen you disgusting piece of shit
>>246865They're all the same.
>>246867I bet you eat green bananas too you vile cretin.>hoshoryu_signature_look_of_superiority.jpg
>>246868If you don't eat bananas you aren't a human being.
Aonishiki is going to walk his way into Ozeki purely because everyone who isn't a Yokozuna is a broken man by the time their fingers touch the joi.
>>246864
>>246871I mean, really the greatest skillset he needs to really learn now is try avoid catastrophic career altering injuries, so it checks out. Also wasn't his master really good at just that during his run?
>>246873>during his runHis run at what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzk5sWnj-M0Musashigawa beya started a channel. I hope we get to see first hand how Musashimaru keeps himself in such great shape.
>>246875I can answer that.
>>246872All the newfags don't even know who that is.Tbh I'm thankful for that fuck because I would scrape his classic sumo restreams.
>>246876If he considers a serving to be a single piece of meat then that's probably about right for a guy who fought at 550lbs.
>>246878A serving is a plate full of thinly sliced meat.
>>246879Then either you or Akebono are lying.
>>246820It would be extremely painful!
>>246880I'm imagining one of those little plates you might see at a sushi conveyor, and "Japanese full". I can certainly imagine Akebono eating several kilograms of meat at a boozy dinner, I've seen men less than half his size eat astounding amounts.
>>246875The hopeful, inspirational hero music really sells it
>>246875The Dan Jr Channelu
>>246875Pretty nice production values considering their highest ranked guy is Ms23>>246891>makekoshi at sandanmeI dunno if he's another dan at this point.
>>246902he is still young and small, once he clears 200kg he'll be unstoppable
Decorations going up in Fukuoka
>>246883A couple Christmas's ago I did about 1kg of chestnut mushrooms, 1.5kg of beef, and a crate of Desperados in a day. Woke up the next day with blood the thickness of tar.
>>246880He was talking about a group of rikishi, but a small group to be fair.
>>246883This is a serving.
How many different rikishi do you think will be at the rank of Sekiwake during 2026? Things feel so chaotic that I wouldn't be surprised if it was close to 10, with Zak being one of them.
>>246883It's probably a combination of tiny plates plus Akebono just saying big numbers for the cameras. Remember that Isegasloppa where Atamin and three other fatsos did an eating challenge at a sushi place? Atamin managed to eat around 80 plates of sushi. I believe he's about 190kg which comes out at basically 420lbs. Akebono was around 25% heavier, so if we apply that to the plates he'd be able to eat about 100 sushi plates. Does that equate to 60 portions of saucy meat? Fuck knows.
>>246912>with Zak being one of them.Yokozakura gonna make you eat those words boy
>>246875musashigawa looks older than konishiki, lmao
>>246913Akebono's claim is that it was he and three other wrestlers. If Musashimaru was one of them, I could see it.
>>246916>Akebono>Musashimaru>KonishikiWho's the other biggest eater ever who wasn't a waste of time? Onosato is huge but he doesn't strike me as the overly gluttonous type.
>>246919Kisenosato probably still devoures a kg of meat every day. And no, he wasnt a waste of time. He was an excelent rikishi who got gatekept by Hakuho.
>>246919Takamisakari was Akebono's incredibly nearsighted tsukebito. If you can't see the food, it doesn't count.
>>246711>>Akebono>Wanted none of the JSA's bullshit. Also dead.He was straight up told that he would never be elected as chairman because he was a gaijin. That crushed his motivation and lead to his decision to leave.
>>246719>No it doesn't.What are you, 12?
>>246748>pre-bout staredowns and pseudo-starts that lay the groundwork for the eventual tachi-ai.
>>246778>That look on Shodai's face when Hakuho stepped to the rear of the dohyo like that.That was a sweet match.
>>246809>turbomanlet (165/5'5")?Take up muay thai and learn how to fight for real, kid.
>>246931>Hakuho mentioning on an interview that he had played that match on his head a hundred times the previous night and he never won if he had to withstand Shodai's chargeTo this day i dont know if he was telling the truth of its a story he made up after the fact.Cool shit either way
>>246935Probably not. It was after Shodai's injury. He was a shell of what he'd been the previous year.
>>246932bjj is the martial art for manlets
>>246936was trying to find the quote to make a quick webm but i cant find the documentary anywhere now when i think i watched if off youtube not a month agoHakuho's lone battle or whatever, it was from nhk too i think
>>246938The Pride of Yokozuna: Hakuho's Lone Battle. Seems to have been scrubbed. I don't doubt he said it, btw. I just don't think Shodai was in any shape to beat Hakuho that basho.
>>246939Yeah i understood what you meant, i just wanted to make the webm for the sake of itIts just that he was so pleased with himself during the interview telling the story that i suspect that he may be making the story about replaying the fight in his head a hundred times on his head.
>>246938
slop videos are now considered newsworthy by the jap press
Any upcoming prospects to keep an eye on?
>>246947me anonim already fat as fuck
>>246948What is your style of sumo
>>246947https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnSumoDataRikishi/profile/4339/
>>246947There are some new Mongols starting in the upcoming basho, if you watch lower divisions you can watch out for them. They have long Mongol names I'm not going to try and remember, but you'll know them when you see them because they'll be mauling Japanese stick insects. I think Goshima is in Juryo this basho, too, and people say he's good.
>>246947In what division? Fujiryoga debuts as sekitori in his 4th basho, Tenrosei is still the only member of his family to not make Yokozuna, and I believe Ochilsaikan (rumoured to take the shikona of Asahifuji if all goes well) and Bukchuluun start fighting soon.Oh and there's THIS guy.
>>246947Of course anon
Daieisho says his leg is significantly better and he isn't going to be afraid to use it properly. Can't wait to see his latest 8-7.
>no chris video today lazy smbi >>246944that oyakata channeru video is top stuff, theres a dozen or more great bouts shown during that 45 min, both the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat are well represented, also got a lot of today's vets competing in their youth
I want to be Musashimaru's Okami-san and get railed by his small Hawaiian dick every night.
>>246937>bjjBJJ is nice for 1 on 1, but in bars and in the streets you're usually dealing with multiple people that will start kicking your head in when you go to ground. Muay Thai and western boxing are great because it teaches you how to fight on your feet, which is better in those crowded environs.
>>246959He's a big guy
>>246811I think you guys are underselling the value of sumo. It has striking, standing grappling, makes you resist being taken to the ground (very important), and trains you to be a big fucking dude. Most street fights quickly devolve into grappling, so being big and experienced at that is a boon. Sure there are other martial arts that are better, but sumo is pretty well rounded and I would put it a cut above things like most forms of karate or taekwondo.
>>247002Why would you use harite in a street fight when you're allowed to punch people? Is your opponent in the brawl wearing a mawashi? What happens if you get put on your knees or on your back? Sumo is a min-max sport, designed to do one thing really well at the expense of training for any other situations. If you're already a sumo wrestler, you'll beneift from the strength and resilience you've gained from your sumo training. If you're not already a sumo wrestler, it would be stupid to become one to improve your self-defence capability, there are much more efficient and effective ways of doing so.
>>246852They're probably all Hosh's Tsukebito.
>>247005>Why would you use harite in a street fight when you're allowed to punch people?Less likely to break your hands. Boxing uses gloves for a reason.>Is your opponent in the brawl wearing a mawashi?Lots of people wear belts and you can grab their waistband if they don't have one. That's setting aside the fact that there are lots of throws that don't require a mawashi to begin with.>What happens if you get put on your kneesJust stand up lmao.>or on your back?The only point that holds water, though it's going to be very hard for them to reach this point if you're good at sumo.
>>247002I can see a standing tachiai into big push or nodawa would give you a big advantage because the average person has no clue how to maintain their balance in combat, but other then that there are better ways to defend yourself then sumo.
rikishi to watch in sandanme and lower?
>>247007Your a idiot.
how does one get into watching/following sumo?
>>247017Tournaments are held on odd numbered months, starting on the second Sunday, and running 15 days. The Fukuoka tournament starts this Sunday. The easiest way to watch is on ABEMA with a VPN. They show all divisions. If you just want to watch the top division, there are other links in the OP.
>>247017There's a 15-day tournament that starts on the second Sunday of every odd numbered month. Just show up and watch. Start with makuuchi, and when you feel like you want to watch more then get into juryo and makushita.
>>247016>Your a idiot>Your
>>247017You may find this video informative. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJRH0NCEXy4
wait theres a sumo general? why is it relegated to /xs/ lol
>>247023The "s" in /xs/ stands for sumo. We run this board. During the tournaments, we move to /sp/.
>>247023Not active enough for /sp/ unless there's an actual basho happening.
>>247024>>247025based, ive been following sumo for a year now and had never noticed any threads (or thought to look)
>>247025Because 85% of our posters only post on /sp/ during bashos.The crew here off basho is quite small. There's probably not more than 10 regulars here. Less even.
>>247015Dan Jr
>>247024and the x stands for xtra
the new mong is a 180cm manlet, lightweight too
NSK's Endo retrospective included this match, so I thought I'd share it. Not often you get to see Hakuho with clay on his back.
>>247031What a wet fart his career turned out to be
>>247017next tournament starts this sundayif you cant watch it on the same day (some info in the op) the next day nhk (the japanese broadcaster) uploads a 30 minute video with all the first division matches commentated in english to their page. During weekdays they also upload those to youtube, but not on the weekends, weekend recap videos are only on their page until monday when they usually get to youtubeJust watch this tournament, ask your questions and see if the vibe of the sport is for youDuring the tournament there will be a quite active thread at /sp/
>Telling someone to watch NHK and not NattoFiendish.
>>247035When i started having the english commentary was a mustI probably wouldn't have made it if i had to watch natto right awayWhat i recommended was in earnest
Possibly the greatest sumo webm in years.
>>247032Yeah 45 yushos is pretty low.Edit: Wow thank you for the gold king stranger!
>>247038You're welcome.
Bukhchuluun's physique is crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTg2rHYqUZcFallow sloppa
New thread>>247047>>247047>>247047>>247047
>>247017The absolute easiest way to watch is tune in to one of several twitch streamers (e.g. LeoDickinson, MidnightSumo, QueenBee) who stream the whole time tournaments are happening with commentary. Make sure to close and completely ignore the chat box. Find whichever streamer you can stand to listen to.Next tournament starts this Sunday. Each day is 9h of wrestling, but only the last 2-3 hours are top divisions. Unfortunately if you're US-based, the timing is pretty bad for watching live. Most of those twitch channels above will immediately re-run the day's matches so you could catch it the next day.The official sumo org posts match results live as they happen here so you can track this against a live feed to know who's wrestling or who's just wrestled and who's coming up: https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/ Everything else is about watching a lot of matches and slowly picking up on the terminology and such.
>>247053Then, if you're after more content and context, there are torrents available for past tournaments. Search 'Grand Sumo MVGroup' on BTDig and sort by age, those ones are usually well seeded.
>>247053he's probably better off checking the sp thread when the basho starts for whichever kick channel is restreaming nhk, esp if it's a murray day
>>247042basic muscle manlet bodyset sail for fail, he will peak at m6 and spend a lot of time in juryo before eventually retiring
>>247025It's more than active enough for /sp/, scroll down to the bottom of the catalog and look at how long those threads have been up without a post.
cutie alert on the latest tatsunami sloppa.
>>247038This guy is my hero.
>>247058Do they do english commentary now? If so then yeah that makes sense. But for me, when first getting into sumo, having some form of commentary in my language helped enormously. I wouldn't have quickly developed a depth of appreciation for it without.
>tfw I've watched ABEMA from the beginning and never looked back.NHK is for the weak.
>>247072Abema commentary needs to say "jikan desu" consistently, back before NHK went nuclear on streams and highlight videos it was my audio cue that the match was actually going to start.
>>247074Just look for the flashing まもなく box.
ken-sama's sumo stablehttps://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2100068/
>>247075Or listen for the crowd getting loud.
>>247123Quiet, you mean. They get all hushed before the tachiai.
>>247005As I said, most street fights quckly devolve into standing grappling, and sumo is great for standing grappling.>what if you get put on your backThat is the one thing you are training for as a sumo wrestler harder than anybody else to never allow to happen. An average person is going to have a monumental time trying to knock over a over 100kg man that spends all his time training his legs and flexibility so he doesn't fall. I'm not saying sumo is the best thing for self defense, but there are obvious benefits.
>>247145Sumo wrestlers train to avoid losing sumo matches. They don't train to resist some cunt in a bar punching you in the back of the head, or being hit in the face with a glass bottle, or being ganged up on by three men. Random, senseless fighting is messy and chaotic, and you're going to be in disadvantageous positions a lot of the time. Any training that doesn't cover escaping such positions or finding ways to turn them into advantages is no more useful than simply lifting weights to become bigger and stronger.
>>247137Yeah but they're hyped right before. The enthusiasm of these people when the rikishi shove their face in the towels is astounding
>>247147>They don't train to resist some cunt in a bar punching you in the back of the head, or being hit in the face with a glass bottle, or being ganged up on by three menNo martial art trains you for that.>but muh krav maga/street fighting experienceis bullshit. Combat sports are still your best bet for self defense since they let you train full contact against a resisting opponent.
>>247147>or being ganged up on by three men
>>247170Retard>>247171Fake
>>247177You have never been in a street fight.
>>247179Don't need to to know that some form of striking is better than sumo to prepare for one. Only a retard would think that.
>>247180Retard.
>>247180>some form of striking isACK
>>247181Faggot. >>247182Yes, and look how unprepared he was. One shot and he went straight down.
does anyone have a clip of takayasu making a mush of dan's face from september?
Can't believe Mita is kill
