Why is the peek-a-boo boxing style dead and no longer done by other professional boxers?
>>250572You could ask the same thing of crossguard. These styles rely on coaches that know when they're the right thing to advance a boxer's career and that depends on the person, the era, and the resources available to teach it. I think peekaboo is usually used to shore up a weak defense backed up by some good offense (like Floyd Patterson throwing triple and quadruple lefts), and it is a mistake in some match ups. The raw level of the modern athlete might exclude it in this era.
>>250572It has to do with the beginning of Floyd's career. Back in 2005, it was pretty much disproven when he was up against Malpache Quarez, the only other known practitioner of it at the time. Shit was completely fucking useless against Floyd, even though Quarez was on a clean streak of 19-2. Didn't mean jack shit. After four rounds, the damage was done, when the only athlete then capable of it was completely demolished. It pretty much killed it dead on the spot, and nobody talks about it.Peak-a-boo only works if you have explosive power, something Latinos don't have.
>>250577You just made all of this up. There's not even a real boxer named Quarez
>>250577I was gonna agree with you before reading>>250614>You just made all of this up. There's not even a real boxer named Quarezand I did some research and... yeah, you just completely pulled this shit from the bottommost depths of your meth-head brain. What dismal, ungodly abscess infected your ethnically impure mind to imagine this troglodyte drivel. Before deciding to shoot up a school, did you write up your manifesto too? Kill yourself brother.
>>250572Because peekaboo was literally design for stocky manlets. Aside from that it is very hard to master as it requires someone with insane stamina that even a pro couldn't tolerate
>>250647Floyd Patterson disagrees. Peek-a-boo works by taking away feinting and replacing it with a different form of threat. It needs some kind of offensive battery behind it, be it quick relentless fists or Mike's insane power. The other big problem of peek-a-boo is that it's not as dynamic as something like philly shell or orthodox. Hopping in and out for different scenarios is less common than it is for those two.
>>250576>You could ask the same thing of crossguardI've seen Floyd do itAn old coach told me he doesn't teach crossguard anymore because you can't punch from it
>>250616Imagine being THIS butthurt over a trivial shitpost. You must be frothing at the mouth whenever someone disagrees with your politics or religion.
>>250832boxing lore is already convoluted enough
>>250572In the modern era there is no need to learn a complex style that will fuck up your knees in the future to beat nowadays jobbers
>>250572every style has strengths and weakness. It worked for Tyson for a while until people who were capable of beating Tyson were taught how to beat Tyson and began knocking him out. The first time was Tyson's sparring partner who knew how to counterpunch Tyson's left hook and knocked him down in Japan before his first loss, I forget the guys name. Then the smarter ones after just ducked and doged and covered up and counter punched. Tyson got so angry he bit the guy's ear.
>>251016Tyson started to lose when he said F.Y. to Cus D'Amato's camp. Whether it was Cus himself or Teddy Atlas or Kevin Rooney coaching Tyson, he was winning. Once he thought he's smarter he lost
>>250576Teofimo Lopez sometimes uses the cross guard and counters with a hook from the lower hand
>>250572Tyson was able to get away with the Peekaboo style for so long because he was too fast/explosive and the average heavyweight was too slow to react to him. Isaac Pitbull Cruz has a similar build to Tyson, small and stocky, but you won't see him use the Peekaboo style because the guys in his division of 140lb can react and move faster enough to counter it.
I tried watching current boxing a month ago and lighter weights are filled with daddy long leg urbans, weight bullies, wing span freaks.peek a boo is good if you are fast, explosive, shorter. a solid chonker with normal-ish span that can take people out quick.Who has all that nowadays?Some are slow, some lack power, some can hit you from the shower rooms, the ones with potential cut weight.And then, as it happened with the daddy long legs I watched, you get a jumping dude that spams overheads into a hug till decision and nobody bats an eye.Then add the clinch rules that means you can do nothing to counter that.And that it's mostly wwe and the judges sell out, so you'll need a knockout if you are for real, then never get invited again.Kinda shit to pika pika.
It's everything to do with Cus going away. He was THE trainer for peekaboo. Just because you've only seen it with Tyson and his pretenders (and Ippo) doesn't mean that it only works with shorter guys with heavy punches.
>>251387everything works if you get shit donedoesn't mean it'll work against everyone. doesn't mean it'll work for you as you age and get injured. Doesn't mean it's optimal for you.That's the reason nations tend to have styles. If most Mexican boxers are build like the Tasmanian devil, can eat punches and aren't as fast and jumpy as some west african with skelly, high calves, you understand why they have "mexican style" boxing. They develop these fighting other builds btw. When you go outside it has to work, too.All of the sudden, in some other country with people build completely different (say, cuba), they have their own style.That's why the Japanese go hard, in and trade, for example. They generally can't out-reach, out-point, out-footwork, they can't even fucking out-weight-cut I think. But they have grindset, David and Goliath culture and seem to eat hits well.You can teach p-a-b style. It's not some ancient, forgotten magic, sealed from man forever. But is there use for it NOW? And can someone optimise their fighting with it? Will (boss) let him in? Tyson is still kicking!Wait till they are used to the current meta and Tyson is almost dead or fully dead. Then comes the dude that let's he's guard down and dances, the underdog brawler, the turtle shell wiggler. And they get belts until they are countered or quit.
