>>261449
We could have had Onosato doing the exact same thing...

>>261447
Onokatsu, Midorifuji and WTK are listed on the 'kumi so theyre in I assume?

>>261451
Looks like it.

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the gods are pleased by the injuries thus far

but a new dohyo must be watered with new sekitori blood

Back in the day, before man lost his honor, a demoted Ozeki would've retired on the spot for daring to bring shame to the rank.

>>261447
We can probably stay on /sp/ now. They need us to keep evil spirits out.

>Onosato out
>Dan out

Lmao.

>>261456
Horse's best chance at a yusho as yokozuna, pity that Zak and Kirishima seem to be back on form and whatever spells Abi is casting seem to be working.

Kirishima yusho.

>>261462
>Make Ozeki with a yusho
>Win the following yusho
>Lose rank

Dan invented the formula. Kirishima is simply following it.

>>261464
Don't worry, Aonishiki will reclaim his ozeki rank with 11-4

>This is the first time Ura has been in double digit Maegashira since Hakuho retired

God damn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy0jPXGyRX0

Spiffy ranting about sumo AI slop.

Dan oyakata is buying a car and parking it in his ozeki parking spot

If an ozeki is ranked at sekiwake and yushoes then he get promoted to yokozuna if he also yushoes the subsequent basho

>>261479
You're asking if a demoted Ozeki is still an Ozeki. They aren't.

>>261480
lmao everyone get a load of this stupid noob who doesn't even know any of the rules of sumo

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>>261479
>ozeki is ranked at sekiwake

Dan will never be able to become Ozeki again.

Screencap this post.

>>261482
>Hoshoryu fucks up somehow
>Zak is gonna zak to an 8-7
>Kirishima proves why hes always gonna be an ozeki not a yokozuna
>Atamin does well but only a 10-5 to kick off his ozeki run
>Kotoshoho completely crumbles
>WTK barely scrapes few wins with his injury
>Takayasu is cursed
>Ichiyamamoto wins all his coinflip matchups and a 1 or 2 losing ones
ITS HIS TIME

>>261484
He's not making yokozuna this early anon

>Dan comes back next sunday
>zensho's the remaining bouts to save his rank

>>261487
Has anyone done anything similar to his as an ozeki?

>>261485
JWags thinks Kotoshoho has an Ozeki run in him. I've never heard anything more ridiculous in my life.

>Never had a KK in the joi
>Before March his highest KK was M5w and it happened 4 basho before Hakuho won his 45th yusho it was that long ago
>His 11-4 in March contained two fusen, the first from Onokatsu and the second from Dan's broken toe

I'm going to enjoy watching Kotoshoho suffer. What a shame we won't get to see a relatively fit Kotozakura bully him in the ring.

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>>261488
Of course. Everything Aonishiki has ever done has been done better by others before him.

Is this Kusano's Basho?

>>261491
I meant going kyujo for the first week/days and then winning out the rest to save his rank

>>261492
If they let him matta everyone again and he learns to not lose while cheating then maybe he can get a kk

>>261492
his name

is YOSHINOFUJI

>>261495
KUSA

NO

>>261485
>writing off Zak
He is going to suprise you

Say it with me:

>KOTO
>ZAKURA
>II

>Hoshoryu is the only one holding the hinkaku of the rope together right now

Onosato is a disgrace. He will intai on 5 yusho while Hoshoryu retires as a 14 time winner.

The final fight on day 15 will be Kirishima (11-3) versus Kotozakura (7-7).

>>261505
Oh god holy shit, the final fight as it stands is going to be Hosh v Zak. Fucking lmaooooo

>>261506
Nah, I can feel another 5-5-5 coming for Nephew.

>>261508
That was erubō chippu. He's in good health right now. No reason not to expect 12+.

>>261503
>Onosato is a disgrace.

>gets injury where all the muscles from the shoulder rip away from the collar bone, an injury that DEMANDS surgery and a lengthy healing process to repair at all, let alone with issues
>master, who had to retire due to a similar injury convinces him to keep fighting on it
>hakkaku(who has zero impressive students in his own stable) says the yokozuna are a joke and that nobody is training hard enough
>onosato tries anyway, does admirably for a man with a shoulder like a ripped canvas sack
>hakkaku continues insisting that it's a fucking joke
>in training Onosato can't even beat juniors and they relent and let him go to the hospital
>it's really fucking bad
>kisenosato at last admits, "we're considering surgery, this won't heal in just one or two basho"
I do not feel it was Onosato who is a disgrace but either his master or hakkaku, perhaps both.

>>261512
Hakkaku being a tremendous cake eating la-la homo man has been a known thing for a while now. His support of Fujinokawa's recklessness is probably the reason for his current "injury".

>>261513
I'm so fucking pissed his insistence might've been what destroyed Onosato. His career, from everything I've been able to find in sports medicine might genuinely be over and watching his meteoric rise was some of my favorite time watching sumo, I am so gutted. I knew hakakku was retarded but he'd never as far as I paid attention been the cause for someone's direct downfall like this. Maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention.

>>261512
Holy fuck they totally blundered the best japanese rikishi of this century didn't they.

>>261449
I miss flashbulbs at sporting events so much. Made big moments feel even bigger.

The most infuriating part of this is how Hakkaku's own stable is so fucking low tier. Like nigga, if Isegahama had said this shit he might've had a point because of his 7-8 sekitori, but holy shit by the numbers Hakkaku is such a shit stablemaster, his entire authority comes from his rank and not his actual ability.

>>261517
to be fair nishonoseki was basically gifted a mountainous powerhouse, other than Onosato and Shirokuma(kinda') is anyone else noteworthy in there?

>>261518
No his stable basically sucks shit.

>>261512
Nice schizo headcannon dude.

>>261520
What is the headcannon part? Not the OP but seems like everything mentioned there was written in the media.

>>261521
Mainly the parts where he assumes direct cause and effect based on statements made to the media. I don't care for people posting their opinions on how or why things happened the way they did as if they are speaking absolute fact from a position of greater insight. It's been shown many people will take shit like this at face value, example Chris Sumo's older videos where he speaks as if he knew wrestler's inner thoughts.
Further assuming the extent of the injury and it's progression. As well as Onosato's own feelings and decisions towards it and the extent to which he took outside opinion and direction.
For better or worse it's been shown that many decisions in each stable are left up to the wrestler to handle themselves at all levels of sumo.
I want to clarify I don't see Onosato, Kisenosato, or Hakkaku as a disgrace in this situation. Hakkaku shit talks, that's just what he does, this doesn't have direct consequences.

>>261522
tl;dr

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>>261522
>For better or worse it's been shown that many decisions in each stable are left up to the wrestler to handle themselves at all levels of sumo.

I don't see how you can say this when they are pressured every time by their elders in public spaces. I can't even imagine what it's like behind the curtains. Even if the decision is eventually up to the wrestler, they still live and are influenced by this system where everyone is expected to fight through,

>Hakkaku shit talks, that's just what he does, this doesn't have direct consequences.

You say this like he is just some bloke who is a fan of sumo, but in fact he is the top guy. His comments represent the whole JSA and the sport. His leadership is a direct cause of the career decline of the most promising rikishi. There could be a world where the sumo elders treat injuries like real problems with real solutions, instead of treating them like some fault of the psyche, where the rikishi is "just not working hard enough".

>>261526
Look, I understand you hate Hakkaku, and I agree that I would prefer for "sumo" as a whole to treat injuries differently.
I'm not disagreeing that sumo elders have influence on those below them.
But again, you act like his comments have a direct and provable outcome on a wrestler's decisions, which is insane.

It's entirely possible Onosato himself felt surgery wasn't necessary at an earlier point. We however don't know.

>>261528
No I don't hate Hakkaku, he is also a victim of the same system. His career also ended the same way.
But I do wish he would try to make systematic improvements, instead of furthering the problem, especially in an era where sumo is making a resurgence.

>But again, you act like his comments have a direct and provable outcome on a wrestler's decisions, which is insane.

I think it's insane you are saying it doesn't.

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>>261530
Alright, no reason to argue over your opinion.
Have a good basho, I too hope we see Oonosato healthy again.

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GRAND SUMO Preview May Tournament

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/2067055/

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>>261532
Still technically possible, though I hope not.

>>261530
There was a reform guy and his name was Takanohana.

Hakkaku cannot improve things for the same reason that Takanohana never became chairman. Systematic entrenchment.

Hakkaku is actually doing a good job but wastoids can’t grasp he stopped Hakuho from turning sumo into another dei shit show.

You're both retards.

>>261474
buy an ad

>>261485
>Kirishima proves why hes always gonna be an ozeki not a yokozuna
literally has more yusho than the current yokozuna lmao

>>261528
>But again, you act like his comments have a direct and provable outcome on a wrestler's decisions, which is insane.
the guy is basically like everyone's boss, there's a very clear power dynamic here that happens in literally any career and I believe it's a little lame to suggest just because Hakkaku didn't personally directly ask these guys to be reckless doesn't mean there wasn't any influence.

but I'm not gonna blame Hakkaku personally. These shoulder ligament injuries are a hell of a thing and even if they had done everything in the world it could have already ended Onosato's career regardless.
>It's entirely possible Onosato himself felt surgery wasn't necessary at an earlier point.
and really, a lot of this has a lot to do with the medical assessment of the injury. You take professionals at their word and sometimes they are wrong. Everyone involved must've been given the impression it wasn't so serious or torn, that it would get better with rest and PT.
My own mother went through something bizarrely similar, for like 6 years different ortho told her that her shoulder wasn't so serious, just giving her regular cortisone shots. only like the 4th ortho actually had her get an MRI and they saw that same ligament was ripped to shreds.
Except Onosato isn't a woman in her 60s. He's an absolute beast of an athlete in his prime, constantly exerting himself to the limits. He's a fucking national hero Japan born Yokozuna and they knew EXACTLY when he got injured. So why are they half-assing his diagnostics? Why are they just now talking about surgery? I feel like if you're such a high risk for a tear like this they should be taking a closer look.

>His leadership is a direct cause of the career decline of the most promising rikishi.
>but I'm not gonna blame Hakkaku personally
Will you give it a rest, you blithering idiot?

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>>261543
>His leadership is a direct cause of the career decline of the most promising rikishi.
I never said this you schizo I'm just some other guy throwing in my two cents
shit I forgot /xs/ sumo threads were full of people like this

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>>261546
I hope your Mom is in a lot of pain.

>>261548
she had her surgery and physical therapy a couple years ago now, the recover was pretty long.
honestly I think the prognosis is pretty grim for Onosato if he really has a problem like this.

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>>261537
>>261535
It's weird that people don't realize that there are shitheads like hokuseiho gluing wallets shut and slamming guys nuts with a stick every day out there at the beya. The only reason this became an issue is because based Hakkaku wanted to get rid of reddits yokozuna so he could save sumo.

>>261506
Why are you laughing? The battle for most disappointing wrestler since Nov 2024 will be decided. It shall be epic.

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At nearly the last minute as always, it's another basho bingo!
Make (you)r card at https://bingobaker.com/#69feaa7d0c30678f

So what's the deets on 'sato? Did we hear anything more than "shoulder hurt"

>>261559
He's dead, Jim.

Hakkeyoi!!!
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>>>/sp/154580033
>>>/sp/154580033

>>261552
>reddits yokozuna
are we talking about hosh or hakuho

>>261566
Neither, thats a reference to aonishiki

>Onosata and Aonishiki both out.
Well....shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWVIO0a2E28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WH6lry1Yvs
Last slop before the basho, eat it now while its hot!

>ywn have a cute maiko pour your drink and serve your meal
bros...

>>261484
Dan will always be an ozeki, sekitoris retain their highest rank for their honorifics

The US Sumo Open stream is the most embarassng shtshow I've ever seen somebody needs to take this announcer out back and put him down holy shit you are not joe rogan especially if you let crowd hecklers interupt your announcing wtf

as i am coming here to kvetch it seems like they literally ripped the mic out of his hand and gave it to the other guy finally but holy shit i knew it would be a total clown show but i did not expect it to be this bad

i hope there is a vod so i can clip some of the really bad cringe he would outputting for a bit there