appraisal being the super secret special op skill is so fucking tiresome
interestingly enough, the most powerful class, contrary to my preconceived notions, is in fact that of the appraiser
>>287145224Does it matter? They usually forget the premise before 1st episode even ends and start going through the checklist.
>>287145224>>287145278hard to tell which is worse: appraisal or "kicked out of the hero's party"
It would seem that, in contradiction to my previously held and admittedly biased assumptions, the highest level of efficacy belongs to the role of appraiser
>>287145323I'm sure there's at least 500 active series with both.
Please god no more isekai
>>287145387god I wish, I'd read all of them
>>287145506
>>287145224The government should do something about this.
>>287145224but this is how games like Elin work. everything is just shit until you get it appraised and learn that piece of slime is lvl 99 STR+++ food.
>>287145387>I was kicked out of the heroes party for being the weakest level 0 appraiser, but it's actually the strongest class and now I'm getting revenge by living a slow life in another world with my harem!?
>>287145612Picked up!
>>287145224Don’t watch it them.
>I was dropped by my party but now am I lead a party with my former students (all girls) who I shoelace and we have a restaurant that is S-ranked thanks to my Red Mage class?! Savory Dungeon Story!
>>2871457646/10, you tripped.
>>287145803translation error by the fansubber.
>>287145612we had this a few seasons ago but with gacha skill
>>287145323Shoelacer getting kicked is better than appraisal, but not by much.
>>287145224>left to die by my previous party, I got reincarnated as a dungeon dragon boss that my old party is trying to take down, only to find out this dungeon is secretly run by the local guild which inhumanely raises dungeon monsters for their killing pleasure, so I stage a dungeon riot and help my new monster friends escape, and somehow my old party leader falls in love with me!?
>>287145962unironically, it was actually good. partly because it wasnt appraisal, but mostly because it was actually a revenge story where the victims actually get what they deserve.
>kicked out my SSSSSSSSSSSSSS-rank family for being the weakest production assistance but little do they know my ability to make the perfect appliqué will attract the attention of others
>>287146030it was extremely mediocre and Simon suffering was the only redeeming factor
>>287145224I want my Heavy Knight Giga Chad Tank Build anime already.
>>287146250I don't remember Simon's anime having any gatcha
>>287146281GodHand are gonna fuck it up worse than OPM S3, I can feel it
>>287146281pierrot sexo
>>287145612You missed the part where he made the harem with the mothers of those who kicked him
>>287146041That one was funny just because everyone who wasn't his sister or mom thought they were morons for getting rid of him including having their main rivals try to scout him.
I find this premise acceptable if the series has boobs and/or lolis in it (auto crafting)If not it’s a complete waste of time
>>287145224Need a non-coward author who will make the school class isekai into an actual uphill battle when everyone BUT the mc can analyze/appraise
>>287146456kinda always boils down to people want to be acknowledged for their hard work and efforts, but nobody cares so it just festers and comes out as BANISHED FROM PARTY NOW THEY'LL ALL REGRET GETTING RID OF ME fantasies
>>2871463829/10 series. However the pacing is rough and the authors obsession with NTR is odd.
>>287146532>Everyone but the MC gets magic bullshit eyes and constantly take all the best stuff>MC says fuck it and just starts luck maxing>Turns out shit like dowsing rods and astrology actually work and just don't appear on the stat screens
>>287146250i dont think there was a character named simon in 9999 unlimited gacha. are you getting two things confused?
>>287145224Yeah we need some obfuscation/stealth reps. Hiding shit from people should also be OP. Rule Breaker anime when?
>>287146532You've got Pig's Revenge if you want class isekai where MC's got no power while his evil classmates all have powers.
>>287145323What about an appraiser who gets kicked out of the Hero's party?
>>287146532>most of the world are risk-averse because they all can see everyone else's STAT SCREEN and APPRAISE THEIR GEAR and never get into battles with anyone that has highe rnumbers>think MC is a retard since he can't see the numbers>he ends up punching above his weight because he doesn't give a shit about the stat screens
>>287147705Based. Im sure Himmel the hero would have kicked the appraiser.
>>287145224>kicked out of the hero's party for being "useless" (bonus points if they were actually kicked out due to jealousy, or the hero's party realizes how useful they secretly were only after they were kicked out)>cartoonishly evil characters for no reason (bonus points if they do some exaggerated evil grin that makes them look ugly and contemptible)>said evil characters always turn into pathetic sniveling and crying messes when they are about to die>slow life as a merchant/farmer>appraisal skills>medicine/healing skills>"steal other people's powers" skill>slave follower (always female 100% of the time)>either that or rescued humanoid (usually a cat or cat-adjacent girl)>MC was a loser/outcast/salaryman at a black company before reincarnating (bonus points if they reincarnated into the body of a blonde haired blue or green eyed kid)>somehow they are immensely popular with everyone in this new world despite literally nothing about them changing
>>287145224Welcome to Isekai. Isekai has been a fucking huge problem for the industry for the last decade and everybody just laps it up.And its the same shitty story EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. complete with harem females, unresolved plot lines, power fantasy protagonists and flimsy poorly defined antagonists.Its a fucking pathetic genre for exceptional cretins.
>>287145224>makes you obsolete
>>287148046It just keeps getting worse too. WHY DOES THE VENDING MACHINE HAVE MULTIPLE SEAONS?
>>287147984So this series? It's not an Isekai and I didn't bother to see if he fucked all the girls, but odds are he did.
>>287148130Never seen that series either but I can guarantee you he doesn't fuck a single one of them
>>287145224>furry in a partyPass.
>>287148227Tall, dark, and furry there looks like a bro, though.
>>287148147It's pretty clear they're heading to a harem end.
Where's the "Engagement Cancelled and Sold Off to a Foreign Kingdom But Her Nation Fell to Ruin Because Its Economy Was Carried By Her Appraisal Skill" anime?
>>287148535>FeMC>not villainess (the type you never see outside of the context of villainess slop)
>>287148553What if she becomes a villainess because the foreign kingdom she was sold to was the realm of demons and she's now engaged to the demon king?
>>287145224Seriously where is the guy who becomes a banker.>I was a Bank Teller but died in a botched Bank Robbery I have bad stats so I decided to open the 1st Bank in Another World
>>287145224Give me an apprivoiser instead
>>287145224Usually being a fighter is just fine.
>>287145224I was a Shut in NEET with Bad Social Skills Who Died In my room so I maxed out all my Charisma Skills Unfortunately my team wiped so I opened a Bar in Another World and Became an Information Broker
>>287148291That still doesn't mean he's fucking them.
>>287147984Don't forget>protagonist cooks white rice and builds a hot spring and blows the minds of fantasy westerners
>>287148644Literally me!
>>287148790It actually sounds like an interesting show if done back in the 00s style.
>>287148735Wasn't there one where the guy boiled rice and the people were losing their minds.
It's bad when you can't tell if a title is real or a piss-take.
>>287148966Did you know you could drink beer... CHILLED!?
>>287145224Why? It makes perfect sense. Getting precise info on enemy strengths and weaknesses would be invaluable in any fantasy setting. The problem is that practically all of those shows devolve into the MC getting some additional cheat powers that turn him into an one man army. I don't think I've ever seen one of those things where that nigger just appraises shit and that's it. Granted, it's kinda boring, but still.
>>287149332Ironically, as far as revenge slop goes this one actually understands the assignment and doesn't just have the MC and his overpowered army immediately destroy his old party before proceeding to become generic litRPG garbage. It's still shit, but it's surprisingly enjoyable shit. Much better than most shoelacer series.
>>287149439I'm liking the one where the betrayed protag bonds with Yggdrasil at the bottom of the FUCK YOU dungeon and slowly makes his way back up to the surface, slowly losing his humanity and actually becoming vengeful after finding out what has been transpiring since he's disappeared.
>>287146643>>287147065>>287147918Beautiful thank you
>>287149421>The problem is that practically all of those shows devolve into the MC getting some additional cheat powers that turn him into an one man armyMother. Fucking. Beast Tamer. I thought it was going to be about MC playing Pokémon trainer with his combat harem; taming the waifus then standing back and issuing orders. But nope, he gets their powers too and becomes le strongest as a result. What a fucking waste of what could have otherwise been an actually fun story.
The story is always>my useless and probably common skill is actually GOATed and everyone I knew from way back when was a fool for not appreciating how special and useful I am, and that's why I have a harem and they get a humiliating death or jobLike the reason why appraisal is worthless is because every merchant should have it. It isn't a skill appropriate for an adventurer, it is the skill of an NPC or 9 to 5 jobbie.
>>287149364>something tastes better... cold?
>>287149576Cold pizza when you're drunk absolutely fucks. Especially cheap, shitty pizza like Little Caesars.
>>287149615i mean, i would heat it up, but it works cold too. kind of like chicken nuggets.
>>287149785I ordinarily reheat it in my air fryer. But something about it just hits different with I've been drinking. Speaking of, I just realized it's 6 o'clock. 6 o'clock is beer o'clock.
To be fair no one really wants to read about a useless boring sack of shit loser who keeps failing. So we have boring sack of shit losers who keep winning instead.
>>287149845good for you, Mr. Didn't Give Up Alcohol for Lent
>>287145224>unironically screenshotting a streaming siteroflkill yourself underage faggot
>>287149947>no one really wants to read about a useless boring sack of shit loser who keeps failingRude.
>>287149994How does /a/ do it? Even with all its flaws it still manages to maintain a level of quality far above the other media boards.
>>287149987I'm as atheist as a newborn baby. I didn't even realize it was lent.
>>287150178nta but for some reason I feel like this sounds like an isekai title. don't ask me any questions that's all I'm gonna say about this matter
>>287149576I was shitposting really cause it's an offhand comment, but this manga actually does the whole introducing a new type of food thing properly.and it's a specific preparation to give the tortillas nutrients to prevent pellagra
>>287150235>Godless Crusader: The Goddess Who Reincarnated Me Doesn't Know I'm an Atheist - I Wasn't Going to do Shit in this New World Until I Realized the Church was Corrupt. Now My Only Goal in My Second Life is to Free the People from Religion
>>287147705I'm pretty sure there was an anime like that a couple of seasons ago, it was not an hero party but he was kicked
>>287150408This sounds kinda familiar...
>>287148735you forgot crops rotation
>>287149947stop bad mouthing about the russian literature
>>287150520>I used to be in the Hero's Party but I got Kicked in the Ass so now I can't Sit Down but this gives me LVL 99999 Kick Strength?! My Journey to SSS Rank
>The Appraiser-Killer: A Hero Scorned>Born into a world of haughty, good-for-nothing, overpowered "appraisers", I've been given one task in exchange for my reincarnation. I will bring balance back to the world. For too long, these undeserving worms have cheated the system and gained vast influence, power and wealth. It ends today. I will not leave a single one alive.This could be so good if a studio had the balls to make it
I'm convinced the majority of these retarded isekai plots are a sport for authors where they all compete to make the silliest premise and try to get as much success as they can knowing they're writing absolutely retardation.It's like sound editors for movies, TV and games sneaking in Wilhem Screams
>>287150666Wouldn't you just get appraised and they'll see you're an appraiser killer?
>>287145224I think I can only take isekai with OP skills in a funny premise now like the Vending machine anime or Kurt being secretly OP and nobody knowing what to do with him. It just turns into Shoelacer slop other wise or getting kick out of parties.
>>287150687the (un)funny thing is that the premise is like soon after the first chapter and they become all the same story
>>287150738I was thinking more along the lines of MC gets the Hero class, to which he's pretty much laughed out of every building and told to kick rocks because the world finally recognized Appraisers are the best skill. And we can keep this plot going all down the line once the Heroes win, until finally the Sludge Fishermen have their final victory that results in global destruction.
>>287150687That's because that's pretty close to what's actually happening. These authors just throw together whatever trends and tropes are popular on Narō at any given time in hopes of climbing the site's rankings and landing a publishing deal. I'm sure that for no shortage of them it's seen as a way to escape the soulless, corporate drudgery of Japanese life. You can tell from the afterwords in a lot of light novels that many of them have no idea what the fuck they're getting themselves into when signing with a major publisher, though. It's a small handful that can actually keep up.
>>287150801yep, that's why I kinda enjoy reading these trash isekai. I am always curious how quickly the premise is abandoned and it turns into Dragon QuestI've seen a couple do it on chapter of the manga
>>287145224Another thread where nobody explain what's wrong about what they are complaining about...
>>287145224>special skill is supposed to be appraisal>its not actually that rare>instead his super rare map ability will likely be much more usefulI guess they can just write every character to be stupid and constantly needing his appraisal skill though
>>287145323Shoelacers are the worst by far.
>>287145224Appraisal is mentioned to be overpowerd in a few isekais but is rarely actually an OP skill.Like really, name 5 anime where Appraisal is the core cool skill (as opposed to just one of several OP shit the MC can do anyway)
>>287145323>I was a Demon Lord who joined the Hero's Party until I got Kicked out and now I'm an Appraiser for a Princess Who Doesn't Know my Secret and She's Fallen in Love with the Wrong Person
>>287150905It's the worst kind of uninspired storytelling. Every work is derivative to some extent or another, but these shoelacer stories are uniquely formulaic and lazy. The MC's rarely have defining characteristics or personality traits—they're instead defined by their respective cheat skill. The harem elements are frequently tacked on so that the volume covers can be plastered with a litany of different waifus to sell books to undiscerning otaku who just want a distraction from their miserable day-to-day. And the plots are generally fundemetally the same from start to finish. And oh BOY does it that them forever to fucking finish. Plenty of people have pointed out everything I've just said with these series come up. It's not true fault you're too fucking stupid to pay attention.
tourist question but what does shoelacer mean?
>>287151167Ive never heard the term before either but using context I figured it out in like 0.002 seconds. Think about it for a little longer
>>287145323I grow tired of "kicked out of the hero's party" because it guarantees that at least three episodes are wasted on a conflict with the hero's party full of comically rude people with zero depth.
>>287151167>YOU WORTHLESS SHOELACER YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF OUR SSSS RANK PARTY YOU ARE HEREBY BANISHED>...>AIEEEEEEEE BRONZE RANK GOBLINS ARE RAPING OUR SSSSS-RANK PARTY, NONE OF US CAN FIGHT SINCE WE KEEP TRIPPING DUE TO OUR LOOSE BOOTS AND FLOPPY LACES AIEEEEEEEEE
>>287151194>>287151218oh ok thanks. I just don't know why it has to be shoelaces but alright.
>>287151060By the way you didn't explain what's wrong with the series at any point of your post.
>>287151167>>287151194Is a new meme pushed by 1, maybe 2 spammers that think is the funniest shit ever, I would talk about objectives but I don't think is the time or place.
>>287151268Because it's usually something incredibly obvious as to why the party is now dysfunctional, but the banishers act like the exile'd one was worthless.>YOU WORTHLESS HEALER, GET OUT OF HERE. DPS IS KING, QUICK KILLS MEANS MORE LOOT AND MORE EXP>OH NOOOO WE'RE ALL DYING AND CAN'T FIGHT MORE THAN ONCE WITHOUT BEING INJURED, EXILED HEALER KUN PUT A CURSE ON US WE HAVE TO HUNT HIM DOWN AND KILL HIM NOW
>>287147705It was just a party, not a Yuusha Party, but that's Fugukan
>>287151288>bad characterization>unnecessary additions to the cast for the sake of low-brow pandering>generic story that serves no purpose but to be a vehicle for poorly-written action and fan service
>>287151460bro the other guy is clearly not looking for an actual answer
>>287151268It's from the original pasta. The point is that the MC's services to the party is something simple enough that anyone could do while also nesssary for the party to function. The party however, is written to be knuckle dragging retards that don't see the value in MC's role and don't make adjustments for his absence. The truth is that it's the "I'm the most important person on this team doing the most basic and minimal shit, but no one appreciates me" cope made into a literary device.
>>287151208Shoelacer trash and kicked out from heroes party garbage is honorary Korean slop
>>287151494Neah, gook regressor slop is genuinely way the fuck worse on average than shoelacer slop.
>>287148046There are some good ones but yeah, most are formulaic slop with no actual plot or character development. Especially these modern ones come off as pathetic revenge fantasies
>>287149947The issue isn't failures, it is being boring
>>287150558Pure coincidence
>>287145224That's about as retarded as some banker class ending up pulling the strings behind world governments haha
>>287151519It looks exactly the same to me.
>>287151167Since we are in a new season it's time to remind newfags>AAAAA YOU ARE SUPPORT AND YOU AREN'T DPS SO YOU ARE USELESS TRASH GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SSSSS-RANK PARTY AAAAAAA>AAAA I'M SILLY AND CHOLERIC AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW ADVENTURING WORKS AAAAAAA>AAAA YOU COULD'VE EASILY REFUTED MY NONSENSE BUT YOU'RE TOO HUMBLE AND BETA TO DO THAT AAAA>hey mister, do you want to join our party, Protagonist's Onaholes?>ladies, please let me automagically everything for you with my support skills>OH MY GOD, support classes can do SUPPORT?!>MASAKA>BAKANA>I've never felt so supported in my whole life!>MC-sama sugoi, pls support my womb with your baby batter!>*humble beta noises*>AAAAAH MC-sama please stop being so useful, I already came twice!>AIEEEEEEE WE ARE SSSSS-RANK BUT WE'RE GETTING DABBED ON BY GOBLINS AAAAAAA>AAAAAAAA WHY AREN'T MY SHOELACES TIED THEY WERE ALWAYS TIED BEFORE AAAA>AAAA WHY IS EVERYTHING SO HORRIBLE WHAT COULD'VE POSSIBLY CAUSED THAT AAAA>Hero-sama, m-maybe that support guy wasn't so useless after all?>AAAA I HATE THAT USELESS TRASH SO FUCKING MUCH AAAA
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>>287145611desu there's nothing else like Elin except its precursor Elona. it's probably the only rpg i can think of that actually attempts to feel like a real "isekai game". like 90% of these are weird fusions of half-remembered ideas from random franchises and vague nostalgia for early 2000s MMOs the author might have read about at best. and if they're especially "well-read", they probably read about someone's tabletop rpg campaign.shit like final fantasy doesn't even do job classes and even RPG mechanics anymore except for XIV, and that copied WoW classes 1:1 on ARR's release, while FFXI is older than half of /a/'s posters.
>>287151460>bad characterizationNo.>unnecessary additions to the cast for the sake of low-brow panderingThis doesn't mean anything but, and? I assume you are still in the line of complaining about "harems and waifus".>genericAnd? You started saying "every work is derivative" and yes, that's the one thing you got correct.Any of these "points" is just you crying about something you don't like, which would be acceptable if you were sincere about it.
It's just really sad and pathetic how you can see the sorry piece of shit target audience and the equally shameless 0 IQ no-life writer.
>>287151478What do you mean? I'm not looking for anything because any discussion with this type of people lead to a big waste of time, the next thread it will be as it never happened, I'm just with time now and checking if he can come up with new material.
>>287151696Try harder.
>>287145224I don't play videogames. What does appraising mean in that context?
>>287151788The same thing it means in real life, except there's a dialog box that lists what you've appraised. Seems like common sense...
>>287145224the rise of web novels is one of the worst things to happen to anime and manga
>>287145224it's 2026 and we still have 10 fucking isekai shows every seasonfuck narou, fuck kadokawa, and fuck the japanese
>>287151905There's like 1 this season and like 10 romcoms.
>>287145224@SystemVoice [Appraise] this post
>>287151696Because "actually the strongest", "banished from party" and all other similar underdog stories are just template writing that only exists for one reason: to pander to useless turds that don't want to move an inch but want to be told that they aren't the ones who are wrong but rather the world that is wrong for not valuing their videogame skills. The normalfag equivalent is something like Saitama: he had trained hard and became super-strong, but society still looks down on him because he doesn't try to present as a super-hero; he might have a meme cheat skill, but the idea is that he worked hard for it, and the arrogant heroes looking down on him aren't presented as one-dimensional antagonists but rather as complicated funny people, they don't only exist for his sake. In narou slop, the world exists only for the main character.
>>287151922yeah but I like romcoms so its ok for them to be over-represented
>>287151922There are 8 isekai this season. A better argument is that 6 are just sequels.
>>287151984Now this is an anon I respect.
Kicked out of the hero's party" and "betrayal isekai" are so popular because everyone wants an enemy that they can claim absolute moral superiority over. There's nothing better for inflating the ego. Everyone can relate to it. Most sensible people might feel some degree of shame over wanting such a thing, but but shame is in short supply these days.
>>287151998Iruma is not isekai.And yes I wasn't counting sequels, now I know there's 2 new ones.
>>287152100>Iruma is not isekai.How do you figure?
>>287151208>full of comically rude people with zero depth.They're called "co-workers"
Ladies vs Butlers but it's Villainesses vs Shoelacers
>>287151980My job here is done.
>>287152197Fuck. I never even considered it, but Iruma-kun literally is isekai. It's so devoid of the normal trappings of the genre that I just didn't think about it.
>>287152335If the existence of a "demon world" makes something an isekai then there's about 1000 new isekai out there starting from today, hell Yu Yu Hakusho is my favorite isekai.
>>287152335Iruma is something of a spiritual successor to Kyo Kara Maoh, and old 2000's isekai that went on infinite hiatusAlice in particular is extremely Wolfram coded
>>287152451Is it really a successor? 'Cause I think the entire cast needs to be gay for that.
>>287152335if it doesn't have the trappings of the genre then it's not actually genre isekai but classic fantasy that happens to have an isekai plot device
>>287145224but its not super secretElf tells MC its really valuable then went on a rant on how MC is just a weak piece of shit for being retarded which needs to happen more often
>>287149364>fantasy girl wearing a tracksuitkek love stupid fashion like this
>>287145224How do people watch more than 10 of these things without getting sick of it
>>287152620>girlDon't worry anon, Alek fools a lot of people for a LONG time. Also all the dragons clothing is incredibly anachronistic as a way to distinguish them as surreal beings in this world and with how beautiful the art is, the artists take the chance to change their clothing all the time since they use real clothes as references.
>>287152509it's a more bisexual successor>MC is a human that's being groomed to become the next demon king>shortly after arriving meets a standoffish nobleman that, after an initial conflict, falls madly in love with him>demon world is very prog about gay marriage n'dat>the better the MC gets at navigating the politics of the demon realm the bigger his harem grows>gets a magic artifact the mastery of which lets him keep up with demons in combatI'm not saying Nishi ripped it off but I do think it definitely left an impression on her when she was younger. biggest difference is the demon world in Iruma has more of a Disgaea vibe
>>287150666There was that one that had an isekai protag, and an isekai protag assassinator. Think it was yuri or something.
>>287152667Here's his mother who always has extravagant kimonos
>>287152664To get the most out of your hobby you need a balanced diet of peak, mid, slop, solid 7/10, extremely niche shit that appeals to exactly 13 people including yourself, and actual masterpiecesthis applies to animes, vidya gaems, movies, novels, and music
There are a few isekai that I personally like though. The ones that stand out to me are:>Yakuza Reincarnation>My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!>I Got My Wish and Reincarnated as the Villainess (Last Boss)!>I Became the Strongest Witch - Living Freely as the Only One in the World Who Can Use Walkthrough Websites-The last one isn't quite an isekai because none of the characters are actually from another world. It's one where an NPC somehow gains access to our world's internet and is able to cruise through the game with guides. It's actually not really that good, but I still can't help but like it.
>>287152769i love my ultra-niche made only for 13 peopleI evangelize it whenever I can
>>287148046Red Ranger Isekai is cool at least
I like comedy shoelacer, Cursificer is really fun
>>287152784>an NPC somehow gains access to our world's internet and is able to cruise through the game with guidesat last, true native isekai
>>287145323I really gotta know who reads this stuff? Is there a really big customer base for this, or is it just really cheap slop for these companies to pump out?
>>287152664Sometimes the studio puts in effort into some aspects.
>>287152589Wasn't world map the AAA rarity skill and not Appraisal? Even the voice in his head says it's B rarity.
>>287151060>And the plots are generally fundemetally the same from start to finish. And oh BOY does it that them forever to fucking finish.That's another thing. A gorillion isekai get made in the last decade or so yet none of them come close to ending. What gives?
>>287152784That last one is getting an anime
>>287152951if chapter sell, why end. you gotta make hay while the sun shines because there's a pile of dead authors who had 1 minor success that could never get another thing going
>>287145224These kind of shows along with isekai with game like skills are the reason anime is on the ropes and any run of the mill manhwa can now compete with it. Anime advantage has always been it´s versatility. It´s capacity to be as depth as any live action movie while retaining the plasticity and stylistic freedom of animation.The proliferation of this type of content hurts that greatly. It´s not as bad as what´s happened to western animation yet but it´s certainly starting to show some decadence. One could argue exceptional anime has always been just that, exceptions, but even mid tier action anime used to at least try to be somewhat creative if nothing else.
>>287151372>new How nu R u? This term has existed for years now.
>>287153052>anime is on the ropes
>>287146570NTR is all but outright stated in the title there. I don't know how you could expect anything else
>>287145224That huge boobie elf archer girl should paizuri the MC.
>>287148272>abs somehow visible through dark fur Goonbait for furfags
>>287153155author removes that character after the 4th chapter, it's baffling they made her the face of the adaptation
>>287152951Dude, literally nothing ever end these days.
>>287145224even I'm tired of it (and of other things)
>>287153167Wow sounds like dogshit then thanks for the heads up
>>287152846I felt like Red Ranger took itself far to seriously after like 3 episodes or something.
>>287153052This is pure ignorance. Koreans have their own repeating themes, story beats and settings. It just has relative novelty to someone who has read zero manhwa.
>>287153224The korean obsession with status and punishing people who have wronged you makes manwha so fucking dull. It's always the same god damn stories each time.
>>287153200The juxtaposition between a literal sentai hero and an isekai fantasy world can only fuel so many jokes. The series wouldn't have worked if it weren't willing to take its premise seriously.
>>287145224i just literally woke up to watch this
>>287153255Well, I felt like it stopped working once it took its premise seriously.
>>287153256Live your life anon just know I'm judging you harshly based on just this post
>>287153256See >>287153167 and go back to sleep.
>>287153200it works better being completely sincere in its premise than being irony poisoned and lampshading everything nonstop
>>287152941ah true but still its not useless like other isekai try to make it
>>287145224Tensei Kizoku Kantei Skill is such a sweet title that I don't blame people for ripping it off
>>287148130I do wonder if this is still running, last I saw online was that there was going to be a ghost girl to join the harem, maybe.
>>287153942You could have done a cursory Google search to see that the abortion in question had its 11th volume release at the beginning of this month. Fan translation is up to 9 volumes as of October. Easily one of the worst shoelacer series I've ever read, though. Might honestly be THE worst if not for the jack-of-all-trades one.
>>287151998One of those was written by a korean american japanese larper
>>287154046I mean, it turns out that he was for real special, though - anime was clearly pointing at him being the actual Hero, not the guy who's party he joined or whatever. Anyway, I'll Google and see what comes up for a site to read.
>>287153224Every mahnwa i ever read is solo leveling tier and pretty much the same. Regression with OP powers, family issues, revenge and a salad of western mythological entities and murim themes. Some are certainly better than others and some are bordering plagiarism but overall that´s pretty much it. No much different from American obsession with super heroes. Meanwhile anime can be about glorified garbage disposal employees in space, a disjointed recollection trying to piece together a supernatural massacre on a train in the 20´s, a conspiracy thriller about a political plot to dispose of a special counter terrorist police unit, an AI managed hotel after the apocalypse and humanity´s extinction, etc. I´m just saying the world of anime doesn´t begin and end with a character opening a player window. I reckon that maybe i just need to lurk more to find different mahnwa and that it having more depth is indeed a possibility but you can´t deny the ones being pushed are like the ones i just mentioned. Those are clearly the ones being used to spearhead manwha´s insertion on the international markets. It is similar with the kind of K-dramas as well. Am i saying Korean culture is surface deep? No, not really. In fact it would be easier to blame the international audiences tastes. Koreans are probably pushing that kind of content simply because it is what´s being consumed internationally and Japan is doing kind of the same, which is why when something even slightly better comes along it´s hailed as some sort of masterpiece.
>>287154080>I mean, it turns out that he was for real special, thoughThat's a huge part of why the series fucking sucks. He could have just used his unique, underappreciated skill to tame powerful bitches and have them fight while he directs the flow of combat. Instead he has to become the strongest because he's the MOST special. The appeal is right there in the name of the fucking novel and still the author managed to somehow fuck it up in only a few chapters.
>>287154151>Regression with OP powers, family issues, revenge and a salad of western mythological entities and murim themes.This is literally Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint, only that series is so meta and fully aware of what it's doing that it circles around to being genuinely great.
>>287152674I always felt it also started off with a Hayate the Combat Butler influence that disappeared over time. I'd check out Kyo Kara Maoh but it looks too gay for me
>>287154059I accept his trash over another season of Wistoria: Wand and Sword. What a foul anime.
>>287154236Crazy that the premise of that show was basically:>You are the strongest 7 year old I've ever seen, I gotta fight you!
>>287154236He's also at least trying to write something he genuinely likes as a love-letter to the genre that inspired him. Is it great? Definitely not. But there's nothing wrong with a non-nip writing isekai. I'm not mad at Horikoshi for writing capeshit so why would I be mad about that?
>>287154236uhhh but wistoria has good animation though? objectively better by default
>>287145224kys isekai/litrpg trashliteral fucking human garbagefucking die you slopeater
>>287154306For me, I tend to instantly realize when a writer is korean or chinese, because they tend to incorporate their own countries tropes into the writing. Kizoku Tensei was a good example of that, even with the author being a Taiwanese japanese citizen, the signs are obvious. Korean influence doesn't bother me. Chinese stuff does.
>>287154334The TBATE webtoon is serviceable. Lots of shitty, 3D modeled backgrounds, but not much different than your typical manhwa that isn't handled by one of the few big studios. It's an overt Mushoku Tensei rip-off, even more so than the Japanese series that fall under that umbrella, but it's far from the worst thing I've ever read. It has some interesting ideas, but it does fall to deliver on then on a way that's compelling enough to call it great.
Apologize to HIM.
>>287154415OP is LITERALLY saying these series are a problem you absolute fucking moron. >>287154418Are you me? Because I feel the exact same way. Gookshit is fine. Chinkshit is a hard no.
>>287154421It's interesting to look at any female oriented anime based on an LN/webtoon/etc. and see it rated really well (Ascendance of a Bookworm), then you look at a male focused one and see it nuked to hell (wahhh it doesn't deliver on the depth!!!) I feel like it's a concerted effort.
>>287154435I already said I kinda like him though... >>287149439
>>287154448TBATE was a legitimately bad adaptation. It's an action-heavy series and the anime was a horrific slide show. Bookworm was a shoddy adaptation itself, but not to the extent the it genuinely undermined the source material. It just wasn't very pretty to look at. I don't think you can really compare the two.
>>287154482maybe it's because i'm older but fight sequences are the least interesting part of an anime to me so i guess i should give it a chance
>>287154533The animation is hardly the only issue with that adaptation. The characters are frequently hideously off-model and the overall pacing is fucked. Just read the webtoon. It's an English language series so you don't have to worry about the horrific transitions the frequently plague manhwa. It's fun. Though the MC is... bland.
>>287154583*horrific translstions
appraise dese nuts
>>287154598FUCK. The booze is really working overtime tonight.
>>287145224the high level weapon you got from an endgame boss is useless unless it gets appraised by an appraiser. meaning you're at the mercy of an appraiser if you wanna use high-grade equipment.
>>287148130I very briefly looked at the WN so don't trust this, but it looked like a main story ended and they all split up for a time before starting some new part. I think at the end of that he at least accepted some sort of harem solution, so sex is very unlikely to have happened before then and probably not after that yet.
wheres screenshot anonneed some of that busty elf
>>287145323Healer is useless
>>287147984yeah its bullshit even revenge stories are even revengeotome is usually the same with MC just following the story and being retarded most of the time>>287152846oh my
>>287154435Sure the title is goofy but I like this story. Light’s a nice balance of vengeance driven psycho, caring older brother (Once he reunited with his sister Yume.), and he bonds well with Miya. The ladies are a lot of fun with individual personalities. (The LN side stories really let them shine.)
>>287154850Does Yume actually get page time in the LN? She may as well not exist in the manga and has been part of like two incredibly brief and unimportant scenes.
>>287152951Do you also protest wanpiss run for 30 years?
>>287154960One Piece has an ending in mind, even if Oda has lost sight of how to get there. These mass-produced Narō slop have nothing to their name but the name itself. Literally.
>>287155012>One Piece has an ending in mindLMAO
>>287155043Multiple editors are aware of it and the revelation of the One Piece itself has literally been dropped into the ocean in a hermetically-sealed box. You're fucking retarded if you don't think an author as autistic about coming up with inconsequential shit years ahead of time as Oda doesn't have his ending mapped out.
>>287152951Digital hosting on lowbrow web services that don't try to keep a high sense of curation means that as long as the artist can eke out a living from dividends, they can keep submitting new chapters forever. Back in the day things were a bloodbath because a print magazine could only fit in a certain number of series at once.Some digital services try to keep a sense of higher quality by axing lower level performers. But a lot of lower tier ones just act as dumping grounds with the bare level of editorial oversight.
>>287154960Yes?
>>287155134He doesnt realy think of stuff ahead of time, he just says stuff and gives it meaning later
>>287151038I'd watch it.
>>287154871She gets moments in the side stories more than the main story. But it’s a good amount of stuff that fills her in life in the Abyss. Of Light’s comrades, she likes Ellie who teaches her magic and Nazuna who is her bodyguard and best friend. (Nazuna’s childish personality works in her favor with Yume.)
>>287154871Also the side stories apply to a lot of characters. We see how Mera and IceHeat initially clashed after being summoned. Suzu’s inner thoughts with Lock observing. Various ups, downs, hobbies and daily lives of characters. (IceHeat has a running gag of feeling cursed on not getting to show off her battle skills ever since Miki got captured.)
>>287155134So you yourself admit he just recently got things figured out after 30 years? Ok.
Is shoelacer shit capitalist or anticapitalist? I could see both angles.>capitalist"Middle managers are totally important guise, without my moral support you'd fall apart in an instant">anticapitalistThe person doing the most important and fundamental work will be alienated and disenfranchised by others the moment sufficient profit has been extracted from them.
>>287152263I think they're actually called, "people who bullied me back in high school"
>>287147984Don't forget introducing an incredibly basic skill, such as farming or making rice, and having it be completely revolutionary as if a developed society doesn't already have that shit.
is Japan so miserable they need this avalanche of otherworldly fiction?they should try and improve society somewhat if so
>>287155849Please understand, very low birth rate. Also
>>287155882hmm i don't think that's it
>>287154059If only I, a burger, could achieve such slopistry...
>>287145224The switch is already on the way to SciFi isekai, get ready for another 10 years of that.
>>287156010you are not the right race. sorry.
>>287145224I watched it. It was actually pretty good. I laughed a few times. I can't imagine that's because the source material was good - seems like it just has a good director and decent studio behind it. They'll start being held back by the source material soon, I imagine.
>>287145224information is most important thing.
>>287156017any good ones in the genre? apart from Futurama ofc
>>287155849The elite families that control the economy aren't hurting, so they're not changing anything.Go work and die for 100 yen snack dinners, peasants
>i'm sorry you were born a manlet i'll reincarnate you in to another world (but i'm gonna leave you a manlet)why is kami-sama such a dick?
>>287156997that's not daijyoubu at all
>>287145224So is this like an isekai Pawn Stars or some shit?
>>287150766>Japanese humility till you vomit: the anime>funny
>>287157670Nipping Japanese Bushido spirit in the bud was a mistake.
>>287145224it's not Inspector class?
What if he appraises the shoelaces?
>>287145224>appraise stock>get richsounds op
>>287150766>Pic relatedguy's a practically an ancient immortal elder dwarf who can build anything, but somehow it took decades for normie human beans to notice him.
>>287145224Thanks for the rec anon, picked up.
>>287146382This one is great because he breeds the milfs. Then he gets the daughters and breeds them too. Lots of seething by the shoelace enthusiast.
>>287145224GENTLEMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>287157826Yeah that shit it actually based. And the MILFs are totally dead set on getting revenge and punishing their kids even though he doesn't care and just wants to fuck MILFs.
I'm just sick of every MC being a mage. Even if their class is swordsman they'll still spend all their time summoning big magic circles and shit.
>>287151788It’s like googling somebody’s name and going to their Wikipedia page and clicking “early life”, except it shows you what their RPG game level is and what spells they can cast and stuff like that
>>287157880>Even if their class is swordsmanRead Simple Sword Saint .
>>287157961Don't tell me what to do, faggot.
Is there an appraisal fantasy that actually treats appraisal as what it genuinely does without god tier self-insert powers or swiftly escalating into the user being able to do literally anything
>>287156969
>>287152197He doesn't die and is reborn in the demon world. He just goes there and can come back if he really wanted to.It's basically portal fantasy akin to Narnia.Making the trip be effectively one way and his permanent integration and subsequent development while stripping everything from the MC are important elements that shape how the MC interacts with the world. The MC is far more integrated into the new world in Isekai than portal fantasy.If the MC could just leave or has another world waiting for him then you'd have to write extensively around that.
>>287148580there's the>i died in a bank(?) robbery, that led to an explosion and reincarnated along with the criminals
>>287158206Liam is a pussy who refuses to lay pipe even when pussy is served to him on a silver platter. Hiro fucks the first 15-year old to offer herself up to him less than halfway into the first volume. Therefore Hiro > Liam, therefore Space Merc > Evil Lord. I haven't read the third one.
>>287149576Yes, the cold dulls your ability to process flavor, so naturally foul tasting beverages end up tasting "better".
>>287158186to be fair, I have met a few people with economics degrees, and I think I would sooner trust the opinion of some guy who fucks dogs
>>287158206The space merc one is great. I was playing rogue galaxy around the same time and really got into both.
>>287158341Do you not know that people drink beer at room temperature, and even warm?
>>287158286Anon. The "stuck in the other world" is just an EXTREMELY common cliche, but it's not a defining part of the genre in any sense. Older stuff like Kyou Kara Maoh had the protagonist chilling at home between books.
>>287158286>He doesn't die and is reborn in the demon worldSo you don't know the difference between isekai and isekai tensei. Are you suggesting that Re:Zero isn't isekai?
>>287158388>people drink beer at room temperatureYeah to match their IQ
>>287152383Inuyasha is the oldest isekai I can think of
>>287158462Going back and forth through a portal isn't isekai tho.
>>287158558It absolutely is.
>>287158558damn, if those dozens of>there's a door leading to another world in my basement/atticauthors could read, they would be mildly miffed
>>287158312#1 trash, more like
>>287158558>going through a portal into another world isn’t “another world”are you listening to yourself
>>287158558Everything is isekai, where do you think you come from? Exactly, this is your isekai life.
>>287158647No this is native isekai. I'm isekai'd into the real world. I'm just here during a period where the fantastical elements like magic and Gods are dormant.
>>287158664Chances are that you missed the real world, this one is obviously too flawed and probably made by some guy that can't write for shit and removed all the cool features that made it interesting to begin with.
>>287158693>The Strongest Job is Apparently not a Hero or a Sage, but a shitposter on a Himalayan salt lamp licking forum.
Give me an isekai with end game power levels like Shaman King ie MC is definitely not top 5
>>287149364this kind of shit like the "i cookku raisu and minna daisuki" and other "common knowledge is unknown in ishitkai" tropes are just the worst. It's devised so to make the reader feel even better by telling him "even YOUR useless ass would be revered for things YOU actually know besides your cheat skill or whatever" It's beyond pathetic
Is there any isekai where girls fall in love based on the mc's 4chan rantings
>>287158409not to mention really vintage isekai like magical shopping arcade abenobashi, sliders, the faraway tree and the wishing chair where every book/episode they got isekaid to a new, different world
>>287159136no but there is dead account which is battleslop where everyone has superpowers based on their twitter/Line rantings
>>287159136There is one where they fall in love after reading the MC's rantings on his diary.
>>287158186the spider isekai did it for a while (like, 4 volumes) and then the MC literally went "wtf appraisal is kinda useless, can I have some OP upgrade or something??" and god said "okay". honestly at that point in the story it felt deserved, and added to the mystery of the story....too bad that LN had a dogshit ending so I can't recommend it.
>>287151167>>287151639Oh no... I forgot to save the audio version and now it's gone from catbox for some reason...
>Job>AppraiserPICKEDTHEFUCKUPISEKAISLOP BROS!!!WE ALWAYS EAT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>287158186In to another world with landmines, the appraisal skill's usefulness scales with your own actual knowledge so if you want it to tell you useful shit you gotta hit the library and learn about the shit first. So it's not just pulling info from some mystery akashic record but your own expertise and just giving you the QRD.
>>287151038Chapter 1: Going to the slave market to get an elf maid
>>287152674Don't forget>missing legendary former demon king voiced by Miki Shinichiro who reappears in a miniature advisory form>aired Saturdays at 18:00 on NHK Ed channelJust kind of funny.
good isekai before it was cool
>>287145224Wait until dungeon livestreaming anime hit the air
>>287145224I hate the influx of non-isekai fantasy series that use shitty video game mechanicsFunnily enough most of them are revengeslop
>>287145224Appraisal should be the skill held not by the protagonist, but by a side character who can't win fights on their own but whose job it is to stand on the sidelines and Speedwagon about the current situation as a way to provide rapid exposition. "Protag-kun, look out! 「Appraisal」says that guy's sword freezes everything it hits solid instantly. You can't let it touch you!"
>asura scans is closing downoh noanyway
>>287160466> I was reincarnated in another world as a beastkin woman and sold into slavery to an isekai hero who won't believe who I am. I have to get rid of this magic collar!
>>287145224>Appraisal comes in the form of a fan wiki
>>287150558>>287150408but thats actually a giga-based 10/10 anime that everyone loves though.
>>287150666lmao, that already exists, its called The Executioner and Her Way of Life. It was mid, the premise bored me after a few episodes, even if the animation was good.
>>287162533What could go wrong?
>>287162585That one is about natives killing isekaijin. If you want isekaijin tasked by god to kill evil isekaijin there's Cheat Eater.
>>287153224correct, the way that korean (and to a greater extent, chinese) protags are either complete pussy pushovers who are utterly naive+ignorant to others malice, or rude dickheads that act obnoxious to the point that anyone doing that irl would die of shame on the spot, it is its own brand of insufferable.Solo leveling was good because of the action, the way they integrate it into a videogame format, and cool setup for the battles, nothing else.
>>287153224someone almost always pisses thmselvessomeone gurns over korean foodsome villainess with a distorted hourglass body shows up
>>287154169Omniscient is probably the best of the lot but the formula is present on several other mahnwa as well. The most common blueprint is probably Solo Leveling though. >>287163738>Solo leveling was goodSolo Leveling has been done to death (pun intended). they are not even subtle about it. Several even literally use the Sung jin Woo build. Front liner assassin necromancer solo player, zero fucks given.
>>287147984>mc starts growing rice>is regarded as a genius
>>287164771Rice is okay I guess, but the real 200IQ strat is potatoes.
>>287164812I recall that king from isekai Shokudou who bought some potatoes off kid mastah because he wanted to have his favorite meal every day and turned into an empire with potato power feeding their armies.
>>287165089Yeah. Rice is actually kind of a pain in the ass to grow. Its high yield, but requires specific growing environments and specialized irrigation to create farms for it. Potatoes are almost literally just as simple as 'cut up some old potatoes, plant the chunks wherever you want, even in really shit quality land. Odds are you'll have more potatoes soon."Also, potatoes + any kind of dairy = a complete nutrition profile. You can feed an army and keep them healthy on nothing more than potatoes and cheese (both of which travel well over long distances) and anything on top of that like meat or eggs is a nice bonus but your army will survive without them.
>>287145224So this anime is about a guy who checks out different lands to determine their market value?
>>287152938I think it is just low risk, where there is some minimum interest that just comes from the premise.
>>287157670>Japanese humility till you vomit: the animeHahahaha I bet you kiss boys, fox!Never again!
>>287165175The Nippon cannot comprehend that there is a better crop to grow in Isekai worlds than rice. Please understand.
>>287159112In the context of the whole manga, this is just an offhand comment that's similar to "oh yea we like thin crust simple pizzas in italy" rather than the typical isekai pandering you talked aboutbut when you just see those panels it's really just like that
Very cute elf. I will continue to watch this.
>>287151208I have the opposite problem with shoelacers. 95% of most shoelacers shit I read is spent on the new harem that keep sucking his dick non-stop and not enough on the conflict with the original party.
>>287153167What the actual fuck?!
>>287166322Cursificer is one of the few I've seen that has the party actually be relevant past the betray
>>287154236Hated that shit so much.
>>287145612you had me at kicked out
>>287145224Appraisal is basically omniscience. You can look at anything and know everything you need to know and more.Super OP Enemy? A single look and you already know its weakness, where to find it, how to use it, etc. Appraisal may even tell you personality traits and life history, which allows you to negotiate or manipulate easily.
>>287145224>THIS HAS GOT TO STOPYou had one job, retard
>>287145224Never read one of those appraisal skill isekais. How can this skill even be OP?>captchaLmaoMaybe this year's April Fools isn't so bad
>>287157826>Then he gets the daughters and breeds them tooNo he doesn't. You're just making assumptions based on the shitty manga.
>>287158206evil lord is the most overrated pile of shit shilled on this board.
>>287166591There might be something to it, I dropped the anime after episode 3 when it still did nothign interesting with space setting
>>287145323>>287145224Both are trash because they offer nothing beyond first chapter where MC already gets godlike powers. Either would be cool if MC would actually have to work for it or be creative with his shit skill. Like MC has a dog shit skill but he makes it work and slowly works up. There should be some sort of struggle, some effort
>>287145323>"kicked out of the hero's party"The only good one was the first volume of Arifureta.
>>287157770so you are saying that Bandana did a good job at hiding him. Bandana banzai!
>>287166650>MC has a dogImagine isekai which is just a road trip with the MC and his dog (animal)
What I never understood is why does Shoelacer's party so quick to hate him, but at the same time his harem is so quick to love him?
>>287166702You should keep reading it, the hero is rightfully treated like a retard the entire series.
>>287166702Arifureta is carried by being one of the progenitors of this cursed genres, if it came out today as it is it would crash pretty hard
>>287148046Who was it that said that anime is made by people without life experience.The society has been destroyed and people don't live real lives anymore. We are basically clinging to the scraps of history. The last people who really lived are getting old and demented. Modern humans are just mimicking ideals from the past, but without fresh input from real life, each iteration degrades the original life substance further (like AI slop), turning into the monstrosity that it is today.
Would you read it if it were real?
>>287158186Tensei Kizoku Kantei Skill...Ars can only see combat stats (and maximum stats) like in a game. It still takes years to find good characters and it takes years to train them properly, and the skill can be fooled. On the downside, the series treats combat like a computer game.
>>287167044someone out there was in the process of writing this, I gurantee it
>>287167044Sounds like slop, so no
>what's wrong with it>it's been done beforeFollow your beliefs and don't breathe again, you have done it before.
>>287167221The fact that all these manga are total dogshit is what's wrong with it. Who are you quoting?
>>287167263Little bro can't even read the thread he decided to open >>287145224
>>287167348Where did even a single person say that the issue is that "it's been done before"? The issue is that they all fucking suck. I'll ask again: Who are you quoting?
>>287145224>Appraisal>Crop rotation>Slave haremany other overused isekai tropes
>>287167527Japanese onsen in not!germany country
I know isekaihaters are stupid but nobody is this stupid, seek attention from someone else, I'm not that easy.
>all the manga & LN's referenced in this thread are 1/10 piles of trash>"Y-YOU JUST HATE ISEKAI!!! G-GENTLEMEN!!!"
>>287148077I think there's like three or four light novels about the vending machine.
The only banished from the party story I liked was this one.
>>287167886I didn't like the second season, not enough of the blonde chick.
>>287148077>Vending MachineSome people enjoy good writing,
>>287167886mah man
>>287145224> 16 year old MC looks like a 10 year oldIs this a new trope?
>>287167955Yeah, needed more SoL with Red and Rit instead of focusing on the nuHero
>>287167886>>287168147Sell this series to me
>>287168909Isekai by truck kun is boring.What are some series where someone gets Isekai'd to our world?
>>287167068It also sees only combat stats. So when what he needs was spies, all he can do is ask someone who probably knows how to recruit spies for him to do it.
>>287168988The OP will do a better job of selling it than me because it sums up the show well enough.https://streamable.com/thpabt
>Getting kicked out of the partyWhy is this such a popular trope? Shouldn't said party know what they're getting when letting someone in? Or at least have a probation period for new recruits?
>>287169512It's been recognized as a very convenient isekai setting to do a "bully revenge" type of scenario.
>>287169512convenient writing for a Bronze rank adventuerer with a Plantinum God loadout
>>287169512See >>287151486
>>287169512You know the rick and morty Szechuan sauce guy? It's made for and by people who act like that every time someone tells them "no"
>>287153167>baited by an elf girl againIt will not happen again... next time for sure.
>>287169512Is realistic, the hell are you on? Go out and experience how the world work.
>>287169512It's just another cope for wageslave japs.>Ohhh, I do nothing but actually I'm super important, I'm the one who glues this company together. If it weren't for me, this company would collapse. I matter! I'm indispensable! You will miss me when I'm gone!
>>287158186Kekkai sensen
>>287170179the joke is that those are union laborers working a government contract
>>287145224is there any isekai where the MC ends with his [real]imouto or [step]daughter?
>>287166558In the appraisal anime from last year, the MC appraised dead monsters and learnt their skills.
>>287166745Because the shoelacer is a stand-in for the loser japanese teenager/salaryman reading the story, so his party hates him to show how evil and irredeemable they are while the harem loves him to that the reader can pretend he too has 3-6 women who worship his zero-personality ass like a god.
>>287171414Amazing how a corporate bootlicker could find a way to make this 'my true form of capitalism has not be tried'Where's my Isekai where the MC upends the entire economic system to redistrubte wealth to the peasant class?
>>287171641I always read harem in these threads but I'm pretty sure not even 10% of these series are really harem, they just have a huge female cast from where MC chooses his waifu
>>287171652lol wtf is this post, are all political shitposters just bots
>>287171786>Says something stupid>Gets mocked>NANI!? BOTS!
>>287171973yeah you're that bot with that poorly tagged reaction folder
>>287172038>Seething this hard that he's getting filtered by the simplest captcha known to man.
>>287172087you couldn't have played pokemon in high school since you're a computer program
>>287145323> I was kicked out of the hero's party because I was too weak so I became a farmer and poisoned the hero's food that I shipped them but then ended up poisoning the whole town and ended up becoming the demon lord because I was too evil on accident!!??!!?
>>287172112>He hates fun.>And can't do proper capitalization and punctuationKeep seething at the capcha, this is a great April Fools for filtering normalfags like you.
>>287170179With the context you posted this image in, is it supposed to be interpreted with the opposite intent? In the "kicked out of my party" isekai, it would be Dave yelling that the Logistics Manager isn't "doing anything" and try to have him fired.
>>287145224Who cares the elf titties are good so I'll watch
>>287145224The good news is that you don't have to watch or read them and you can avoid Isekai shit in its entirety
>>287172304The elf titties are a ruse, she gets dropped from the story in Chapter 4.
Is there an isekai where the protag is kicked out of the hero’s party for being a dick?
>>287172779>'Protag' is kicked out the party for being a dick>He vows revenge because he's a dick and becomes the antagonist>The series keeps following the hero's party instead >'Portag' comes back at the end having made a deal with the demon king to try to get revenge.>Finally got a captcha with an anime from the 1990s.Give me something from the 1980s!
>>287145224nah wtf are these titles tho
>>287154046My big complaints are how cartoonishly evil the hero's party is, and the usual retardation of not being able to carry their own gear is compounded on the fact the MC is a super beast tamer who magically runs into a super beast catgirl who wants to partner with him just because or he's the only one who can have contracts with multiple beasts at once.I mean, how did the hero's party not know that?
>>287145224Can they take the budget from one of these isekai shows and make something good please?
>>287154791Guest Director: Yoshida Producer.
>>287156017good, sci-fi is way more interesting and is rarerI hope it wont be too much of a monkey paw
>>287158439Yest.genius who use kelvins
>>287158439>>287158388>>287158341>>287149576Hot Egg Nog is great though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Sr6dkGq8Y
Whaaaaaat? This world has RAMEN?
>i'm a 40 year old pedophile who was hit by truck-kun and sent to another world as a 12 year old and kicked out of my party for being a pedophile who has sex with other 12 year olds but with my overpowered appraiser class i appraised pedophilia as SSS class and now everyone wants to be one
>>287145323isekai in general because it's been the death of anime the same way marvel superheroes killed cinema.
>>287176774prove it without insinuating that battle harems are good
>>287164771>MC reinvents onions sauce>everyone shits pisses and cums their pants
>>287176774Anime is more popular than ever which increases profitability of all types including those you like (if you even like any)
>>287166702That one where the MC is a shoelacer who chooses to be a shoelacer kicked out of the hero party in every universe he is sent to by god after he gets kicked sets up the first arc pretty interestingly. Because he allowed himself to be kicked out of the first party, the Demon Lord was able to infiltrate the party with a spy that took his place as shoelacer, brought them to the penultimate challenge before reaching the Demon Lord, then sabotaged them. It dooms that world to be destroyed by the Demon Lord, and this is the premise of every arc in the story.
>Kicked from the heroes party I was forced to become a prostitute to surviveAny stories like this?
The isekai bombardment will continue until people get less pessimistic about the state of the world and less lonely
>>287145224Does everyone in the series need to buy a house or something?
>>287177724yea your life story
>>287177779It's vital. The Otherworld Realty Corp. is run by SSS-class sssleazebags.
>>287178084I was never a part of a heroes party
>>287172255No, Dave is the one doing the actual work for the group while everyone else is just telling him his tea taste awful and that he needs to go because the retards don't see that he's the one doing all the work, this lead to the company going under and then throwing the blame to something else.
>>287174068I haven't seen this one but they are always pretty good, so I would believe this one is also pretty good, will check it out another day and actually judge the content.
>>287147918There's potential here for comedy. Maybe the stat screen numbers are bullshit? Or the world the hero is in fundamentally misunderstood the stat screen?
>>287151415>>YOU WORTHLESS HEALER, GET OUT OF HERE. DPS IS KING, QUICK KILLS MEANS MORE LOOT AND MORE EXPironically, this is literally the case in FFXIV.If you can make do without a healer (looking at you, Warriors) then it is simply more efficient to run as few healers as possible because the only function a healer serves is healing. The balance in that game is so retarded.Even in their own franchise, there's a VERY good reason White Mages (and other jobs) got access to a plethora of buffs and debuffs.Essentially, it's the Flanderization of party roles that turns the entire experience into a farce.
>>287151788Basically, appraising can take the form of Runescape style 'Examine' where you are given a short (often comedic or painfully obvious) blurb explanation of what it is you're looking at, or the Diablo 2 style Identify where you get to see all the stats of the item, including percentages.Usually it leans towards the latter.
>not even any cute girlsThey didn't even try with this did they?
We need an isekai but instead of the MC being super powerful he's just a below average guy, doesn't speak any of the languages stick out like a sore thumb and is treated as such and basic survival is just a constant uphill battle and he's always on the verge of death or some shit.
>>287154151>Regression with OP powers, family issues, revenge and a salad of western mythological entities and murim themes>Meanwhile anime can be about glorified garbage disposal employees in space, a disjointed recollection trying to piece together a supernatural massacre on a train in the 20´sYou're comparing two industries of vastly different ages.You're not even actually talking about Manhwa since that industry died in favor of the webcomic industry propped up almost entirely by webtoon. The industry you're comparing it to is actually 3 separate industries in the manga, anime and light novel industries and they've been running big off eachother for some 30-40 years since the 90s.Yes, manhwa/webcomics are generally lower quality in terms of writing but it's a fairly unfair comparison to make.
The episode was a lot of fun. Might be AOTS tbqhwy famalamapai.
>>287178355>WHAT DO YOU MEAN we don't have enough personnel for the outstanding projects?? A-Anyone can hire people! The HR guy never lifted anything!>Holy fuck when's all the machinery gonna arrive?? Someone call up a truck or something. The Logistics dude always did it. Anyone can do that!>How can we be over budget on all our shit and go bankrupt??! The Project guy should've know- oh right, we fired him. I hated that guy the most. Fucking useless trash.- Yuusha Dave
>>287179424Yajin tensei if you want isekai hobo adventures
>>287152938Yes
>>287179424>We need an isekai but instead of the MC being super powerful he's just a below average guyThese are a dime a dozen just like the inverse.MAYBE the story shouldn't have the only stakes be life or death and there should be some conflict that isn't purely solved by killing the problem.
>>287176443>hot orange fool
>>287158439>Yeah to match their IQprojecting
>>287145224Need to make a manga where everyone but MC has an appraisal skill and he just fucking decks everyone while they read his stats like nerds.
The amazing thing is that people still watch Isekai in the big 2026, I automatically filter them out of every season.Biggest cancer on the anime industry bar non, It's like them shitty gacha games that copy the popular gacha game and then you get 50000 million clones of it.
>>287186247Watching anime is isekai in itself
>>287186247>Biggest cancer on the anime industry bar noneThat would be shonen manga adaptations
>>287167527RPG mechanics.
Why are you watching isekai garbage to begin with?
Why are isekaijins fine with slavery. Are more nippon-men piece of shit?
>>287188355The real world was also fine with slavery until a couple centuries ago. Free labor is a very appealing idea to most societies.
>>287145278>SPBPI have nothing against Isekai, but the authors doing this shit requires a state mandated appointment with a curb. Which basically includes ALL the authors. 15 years of Isekai and basically almost noting decent to show for it. If 90% supposed to be shit, where are the 10% of the good stuff?
>>287188412But most isekai-guys are 21st century wageslaves and teenagers. Shouldn't they be adverse to slavery?
>>287188674When in Rome, do as the Romans do. If you get isekai'd, you can't just force your morals and principles on everyone from the get-go.
>>287145224JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES NIGGA IT'S NOT HARD
>>287188412>until a couple centuries ago.
>>287160466Honestly im surprised there isnt some completely nonsensical parody which doesnt take itself seriously like this itd be hilarious
>>287172120>Chapter 1: my CF ntrs me with the village' chief son
>>287188725They already do anyway when they need to clash against a hotshot noble or ruler for the sake of a new haremette.
>>287189070By that logic, the MC should've died fighting child trafficking in africa or some shit, not crossing the street to buy cup ramen.
>>287189105Meh. I am just saying a 21st century everyman wouldn't do slavery and there is something seriously wrong with the average isekai protagonists.
>>287145224Indeed, you should stop streaming anime you filthy normalfag.
>>287189070>reddit man imageignored
>>287189177Literally all the isekai MC's buying slaves are doing the same savior shit where they feed them white rice, bathe them in hot springs and show them other japaniisu QoL. They arguably give their chosen slaves a better fate than they would have met otherwise. I don't see anything morally reprehensible.
>>287189225Okay, but do they buy male slaves?
>>287189177Why not? It's not like the meme nigger slavery that people like to imagine where you'd have to treat them like absolute shit. It's more like indentured servitude or the Roman type where you're expected to treat your slave somewhat well because they're an expensive part of your household. I've yet to see a single MC who'd actually treat them like shit and if he doesn't, the whole slavery thing doesn't matter either.
>>287188355It's isekai version of "I like him because he was nice to me" romcom trope. All the self-insert MC has to do is treat slave girls like nip beta male reader treats people irl and that alone more than enough justification for the slave girls to deeply love and care for him.
>>287188355Why are isekaijins fine with killing. Are more nippon-men piece of shit?
>>287189177>a 21st century everyman wouldn't do slaveryWaging is slaving. >inb4 that's ridiculousNo, and if I'm being serious, then waging is objectively worse than slaving. While on the subject, 21st century isn't particularly moral period either. It wins over the early industrialization, but that's a low bar and nothing to be proud of. >inb4 some stupid anecdoteTerrible things happen all the time. Fuck off.
Wtf is appraisal?
>>287186247The eternal isekaihater dilemma>I hate isekai so much I cut my wrirst and foam at the mouth every time I see it>so I watch every single one of them, no I'm not going to stopor>I hate isekai so much>no I don't watch it and I don't know what I'm talking about, please look at me
>>287188412Lmao, dude, we have more slavery today than in any other time in history, and no I'm not talking about the "regular job" topic, I'm talking about a dude with a whip beating the shit out of you for not filling a quota, and everyone is ok with it, human trafficking is even more profitable than drug dealing.
anime is going to make European-based fantasy an abandoned genre like the western and mecha, within the next decade for how cheap and lazy they've made it.
>>287189177Isekaijin don't "do" slavery though? They buy slaves. Just like a modern everyday person buys beef at a store and doesn't personally raise and slaughter a cow. They didn't do the removing someone's freedom and turning them into property part. They're just buying the property that's the result of that.
>>287189276Slime Janny does buy male slaves since he needs muscle to guard his businesses.
>>287191890Broadly it's "determining the properties of a thing". Most commonly in modern day usage would be value. ex. the price of a piece of jewelry. Can also be authenticity ex. This is a real painting by "artist" and not a copycat/forgery. In gamey setting it gets you an encyclopedic breakdown of properties, like levels and stat/skill values.
>>287165943potatoes are basically just a large rice. get them to think of it like that and they'll come around.
This one is actually kino. Picked up.
>>287196717>Titty elf girl who's tits burst out of her shirt>No nipplesBlueballing means auto shit tier
>>287151523The only good one is Sister and Giant.
>>287145224I like isekai anime but it's really weird how many people are doing basically the same story to the point that the name of the show is almost the same too
I want more isekai where the MC starts off as a baby and we learn about the world along with the MC as he/she grows up
>>287147065>start reading>I'm supposed to believe this chad is "ugly" and is getting harassed by these weirdos
>>287166702*the entirety of arifureta
>>287166725Dungeon Crawler Carl?
>>287145224This concept seems pretty boring desu. I'm assuming it's always carried by haremshit.
>>287189177>a 21st century everyman wouldn't do slaveryHe likely would in the right context.
>>287146483>I was dishonorably discharged from my unit, so now I want revenge>tags: action, historical, military, harem, loli, erotica
>>287150766>Kurt being secretly OP and nobody knowing what to do with himmore like Kurt being OP and all the girls around him want to find new ways to take advantage of him without telling him he's OP
>>287195850I'd argue maize is even better, climate permitting. It's the most calorie dense per acre, and naturally is way less labor intense than rice, but Potatos are obviously great for being able to grow in harsher climates. Native American crops just kind of mog everything else for whatever reason.
>>287165175But how do potatoes compare to the king crop of the west, corn?
>>287202680Potatoes don't need extra processing to make their nutrients fully available.
>>287189276No, because m*les deserve to be sold to abusive owners.
I don't know how people can read video game isekais without shooting themselves. They make the old battle harems look like high art in comparison.
>"NO NO Bro you don't get it unlike other isekai this one is good!">watch it>it's shitOverlord, Shield Hero were my biggest traps of this bullshit
>>287203874but you are male
The only appraisal series I've ever watched is Lake Dredge Appraisal
>>287191890ever seen antiques roadshow>>287189177>>287189070shield guy had the most reason to do it, but author-san forgot to write the part where he overcomes his trust issues and abandons the practice. Instead slaves get a buff and everyone is desperate to be his slave
>>287145323i kind of like the idea of "never was a hero to begin with". like that one manga of the middle aged guy who gets isekai'd and opens a store.
>>287145224>streaming>isekaishitreally nigger?
>>287145323Appraisal. At least with kicked out the shoelacer can bring a new power/logic/ability to the table. Every appraisal series is literally the same exact thing with swapped artwork.
>>287204827If I am, that just means that I need to get sold.
>>287189105That's not logical at all. There's a big difference between a Japanese teenager in the real world living in a completely different country to where slavery is happening, and one in a fantasy story where they have super powers and the bad stuff happens right in front of them.
>guild>academyI feel like banning these settings would greatly improve the isekai genre
>>287150178>I'm as atheist as a newborn babyNewborn babies are still connected to their higher-self thoughbeit.
>>287205626Having it not be in a European medieval fantasy setting at all is considered a "fresh take"
>After Being Hit By A Truck and Reincarnating in Another World, I Was Dropped On My Head As A Baby But It Actually Made Me A Genius?!
>>287145323I'm 90% sure these are just picked up by people and then put down after they get their dopamine. No one actually reads them/watches their adaptations to completion.
>>287189621>It's more like indentured servitude or the Roman type where you're expected to treat your slave somewhat well because they're an expensive part of your household.Your typical Isekai is not even close to the Roman type of slavery you mention here.Also, even if they just do cotton farming, you'd still not treat them like absolute shit since that would leave you without slaves sooner or later, and replacing them is expensive as well. Slave abuse is however quite common in Isekai (by other people than MC of course)
>>287205692Whatever you have to tell yourself, Christfag.
>Kicked Out of the Isekai by the Goddess who Gave Me the Weakest FFFZ-Shit-tier Skill, but it's Actually the Strongest and I Became the Isekai God Sending Adventurers to Other Worlds, and now the Goddess has been Sent to Another World and has to Kill the Demon King but I was Merciful and gave her a Decent C-class skill?!
>>287150178>>287205692newborn babies don't even know the concept of a "god" yet, they neither believe it exists or doesn't exist.
>>287205720>European medieval fantasy settingAh, the good old setting that isn't like medieval Europe at all?
>>28720860810/10. Title makes me interested, but is convoluted enough that I know its gonna be a fuck fest plot wise since people that write these have a hard time building upon their initially interesting premise.
>>287208923It's what happens when all your knowledge about medieval yurop comes from shitty jrpgs
>>287145323>I got kicked out of the heroes party for giving king Vince a Stone Cold stunner so I opened up a can of woop ass on the Demon Lord
>>287152938What needs to be understood is that there's an ocean of web novels written on some kid's phone that never get picked up by a publisher. Of the ones that get picked up, a lot of them will never get a manga adaptation or much attention. Then, among the ones that do adapted, most don't actually make bank and see additional seasons, they just make sales on a small budget to an already established fanbase. The audience isn't as big as it seems, but it's just a very fair bet because the audience is already firmly established.
>>287151639You know what I hate that isn't covered here? The point that makes me drop a series even if I was enjoying the blatant power fantasy of it up until that point?When the fucking support character is also the best in 1 on 1 combat because he can stack his support abilities on himself or adapt his support skills into combat. Like, fuck, what little premise there was completely vanishes from that point including the reason his party was being so myopic. You see plenty enough in the real world people neglecting important roles because their scope is poor, but this is just ridiculous.
>>287209097Is it an audience or is it some kind of bad writers lottery where the all read each others slop in the hopes one of them gets a studio deal?
>>287209187>Broken overlooked support skills win in 1 on 1It'd be like rewriting moneyball so the fat autistic guy takes to the field to pitch a no hitter himself.
>>287209097>The audience isn't as big as it seemsThese series always do great streaming numbers.
>>287197940There are other uglier people but he's the one marked by the "cool" students to be bullied so "better him than me" ensues.
>>287153052>Gook shilling out of fucking nowhere when the most popularanga and anime are not Isekai Kill Gookfags
>>287209187To be fair, Orhun was a DPS who learned support.
