>>288029054
Sanji WON

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>>288029054
Can't believe he openly dissed MHA and Horikoshi, literally calling him out as a sellout bootlicker.

>>288029122
Which manga doesn't he hate? He even shits on db

>>288029140
He doesn't dare to say anything against Tezuka, and, at least I did not see any examples, against Nagai.

>>288028951
The irony of saying this in a general that can take three days to whimper to bump limit, where threads completely die the instant another one is made because only one person consistently posts in them.
>>288029101
And your chart is never gonna catch on because it's a visual mess of shit that only makes sense to you.
Learn 2 edit.

>>288029101
Pretty funny

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>>288029054
NAMI-SWANNN

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>>288029054
ROBIN - CHWANNN

>>288029200
>>288029212
Robin>>>>>>>>>>Nami

Amazon Pre Order:

Digital / Physical

Akane-Banashi 22 #230 / #479
Witch Watch 26 #257 / #658
Nue's Exorcist 15 #620 / #1,927
Shinobi Undercover 8 #1,545 / #3,962
Kinato's Magic 1 #23,032 / #65,543
Gonron Egg 2 #26,164 / #95,936
Hero Girl and Demon Lord Call It Quits 2 #27,276 / #98,671
Hero Girl and Demon Lord Call It Quits 3 #27,277 / #98,672
The Mage Next Door 2 #29,634 / #70,147
Under Doctor 1 #29,635 / #90,593
The Mage Next Door 3 NA / #89,548
Gonron Egg 3 NA / #173,829
KINATO WON

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>>288029285
Unordered doctor...

>>288029285
Basketball Deku and Roku will fill the two bottom spot in ToC soon. They're the real cushions of WSJ.

Basically under Saito's rule:
>New series that has potential to low-diff Kiyoshit: Bottom 5 material
>New series that has no potential to low-diff Kiyoshi: Bottom 3 material
Since Gonron, Osoegawa and JK Yuusha gone, UD, Kiyoshi and AH became the new cushions. But it will soon change with Roku and Basketball Deku. And maybe Sorachi, it seems his new manga isn't received well.

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>>288029294
Nami-san's CUM

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Another week of dr stone at the top of jump anime
Another week of one piece elbaf doing worse than akanebanashi,kill blue and rerun of mha's finale

>>288029363
>akane anime performs around the same as axed manga anime kill blue
>cuckshit like MHA and rental girlfriend is there as well
That explains it.

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The KINO we LOST

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>>288029442
Final stretch of the manga
Gotta insert as many of his fetishes as possible

Real talk, is there any hope left for AH to survive?

>>288029363
What garbage fucking site is this where botan, the clear winner of the season, is nowhere here?

>>288029462
No, that's why last chapter was rushed as fuck. I'm going to laugh if AH volume sells more than UD

>>288029463
? It's at 31 isn't it

>>288029463
holy mother of shit taste

>>288029442
>Editors and saito are unable to use ah as some kind of Pragmata
Why are editors so bad these days? It should be the easiest job

I don't think the kinato author put in a lot of thought in the setting or characters before starting the manga.. It's so haphazard and directionless compared to ud and ah. With AH you can tell he had a lot planned out which helped tell a tight story even with the accelerated pace due to cancellation. Kinato doesn't know what it wants to do.

>>288029970
Yeah he probably thought he could improvise after 2 chapters but no. You need at least 15 chapters thought out before hand, a lore, structure, etc
Which editors should help but they don't do shit these days
>Under Doctor
While not as directionless as Kinato, it still feels too random, like a poorer SD. Last chapter is just too desperate

>>288029787
I'm not the only one who think so. All nips do.

>>288030111
Except they don't. Only those who have shit taste do.

>>288030185
>Seethes when the op is about ichi or jjkfags read other series

>>288030185
rudoblud thinks he's on the team

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kekmagazine....

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RIP

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This definitely isn't true

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This one looks cool
>>288030688
I'm gonna miss them, specially ah

Shoseki?

>>288030864
Sukunasister stop cursing manga

People on Xwitter surprised about 0 girls in KGB top 10.
What did they expect from a fujofandom?

>>288031300
They bought the feminist meme. It should be to no one surprise because hackazono can't draw women and none of them are relevant.

>>288031334
Good, he should make a normal shounen next time since he obviously wanted that

>>288031300
nobody cares about kgbt
>xitter
go back and stay there

>>288031334
Anime confirmed then since saito axed KB and Chojo when they had the anime in production already kek

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Is it just me or are shounen series a lot more girly and basic and a lot less boyish, acid and ambitious than they were a few decades ago

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>>288031300
Gintama is peak fujoseries and had 2 girls in the top 10 on average(Kagura and one between Tsukuyo and Otae)sometimes even all three of them.

>>288031498
Zoomer here, we are more sensitive now and hate toxic masculinity

Togashi...save jump

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ya gettin' yer kgb metallic poster?

>>288031503
I will never forgive Gorilla for ruining Kamui’s popularity…
He was better without that backstory…

>>288031834
Why?

>>288031834
Was it the backstory or the fact that for a while he was basically Takasugi henchmen?

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>>288031834
There it wasn't too bad, in Soul Silver arc pt.2 he became 15th behind Sacchan and Otae.

>>288031965
>Gorilla
Kek

>>288031990
There are three Gorillas in that image.

>>288030185
our HEROES
and kgb i guess..

>>288031503
Gintama was unintentionally fujo and Sorachi still bothered to write decent arcs for the women.

Gorilla’s new manga has too few named characters…

>>288029442
This has a '90s or '00s vibe
I don't think this will go over well with young people

>>288032282
There's more fanservice of Gintoki than from any of the girls.
It was intentional Gorillabait

>>288032371
It's already dead, the rapid powerup in that very page is what confirmed it

>Seeing how almost all comments are about Kinato and Alien Headbutt I have to remind these are Mangaplus views and they are decent but not viral. Reality is both manga are in the bottom of ToC and reception in Japan is being low. Last chance is volume 1 sales.
Do you agree with him?

>>288030835
in the sense that it was doing so before it even came out, at least here, i'm not sure about japan

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A reminder that Sorachi was a little shit

>>288032421
No chance, they were axed before volume 1

>>288032331
Maybe now with the weird going ons exposed to all the school that will change
or maybe it will pull a Nue and erase everybodies memories and fix the damage

>>288032389
Mostly in the anime, like the ending with all the shirtless guys.

>>288032446
>Sorachi was a little shit
Sorachi is a big shit and came back after 6 years and half of begging to write a literal shitpost manga, plus isekai parody.

>>288032446
Gin's past wasn't really that important, nor do I remember people particularly caring about it.

>>288032468
There was the equivalent ending with the girls as brides.
Plus woke Kyuubei being in both.

>>288031503
gintama fujos pandering was played for laughs
unlike kgb, gintama 100% can survive without fujos.

>>288032510
I think there was a theory about Gin being half-yato in particular. In general people asking who the main character's parents are since we've never seen them.

>>288032538
>gintama fujos pandering was played for laughs unlike kgb, gintama 100% can survive without fujos.
BTW Gintama is Haikyuu/Kuroko level of fujobait with 80% of the audience being female, KGB is at max a JJK/MHA with 60% of the audience being female.

>>288029363
how on earth are people still watching Beginning After the End much less is it number 6 overall

>>288031919
Yeah, this. I don't remember anything surprising from his backstory, even. The part that might have hurt him is that he ended up clearly bellow Takasugi. Should have kept him completely separate.

>>288032622
It's good

>>288032449
>they were axed before [headcanon]

>>288032640
being better than the literal slideshow of the first season isn't saying much

>>288032636
He ended below Takasugi without enough interactions with him.(Even if canonically Kamui is for sure top 5 in verse maybe top 3)
Kamui is weaker than other Gintama guys since he only has yumejos fanbase and not fujos. Plus in Rakuyo he was shown as an annoying brat with a mother complex and the "yatos must fight their father once they reach adulthood" was retconned to him being a brat.

>>288032538
His new manga has less fujobait than Gintama. Let's see how successful it will be, since the only difference with Gintama is lack of fujobait so far.

>>288032551
I dumped the undumped

>>288032901
but why

>>288032901
It was undumped for a reason anon

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>>288031134
Nngh..!
>>288032951
To break the undumped curse. Been thinking about storytime kgb and finally join but sisters here would get too mad at me so I may dump Shamo or MCMH instead. Wanted to dump Ichi the killer (before he was a witch) but that might be too gore
Btw nobody talks about witch watch what is even that about so many chapters
>>288029442
The coolests, I'm definitely following him for his next job

>>288033032
>Btw nobody talks about witch watch what is even that about so many chapters
It's nice gag manga with cute light romance focus. Just read it anon, it's way better than Roku.
When Nico turned into a loli. Just skip to where she turned back, you won't miss anything.

Yep AH>>>>>UD

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>>288032901
I've seen this chapter as support for under doctor not getting axed any time soon but I gotta say it's the opposite. He's giving her this solo chapter since he probably did get warned of a impending axe. He won't really get another chance to flesh her out. The last few chapters are gonna be chill like this and won't be heavy on fight faggotry

>>288033246
Like there's a couple of pages of infodumping her entire backstory and motivations.

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>witch watch
Shinohara was based for this

>>288033347
Who was the assistant though? Witch Watches Mangaka?

Most people said "Kinato would be the winner of this batch,” and it looks like that’s exactly how it’s going to turn out.

>>288033393
Yeah, he is initially referring to sket dance.

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>>288033150
Ok will do, dunno why it always slipped out of my mind and it looks cute.
>Just skip to where she turned back, you won't miss anything.
Kinda like Shamo chinese arc then lmao
>it's way better than Roku
Masaka!

>>288033246
I think it's getting axed after Kinato (first it's AH). Besides the clan it doesn't seem like he would need to rush things to end it

>>288033443
BASED Top 8

>>288029101
the real one

>>288033607
unless you're saying alien is getting axed this upcoming round, kinato the round after that, and then under doctor the round after that it's not likely as they usually axe recent series in the order they debuted and the debut order from that batch was doctor -> kinato -> alien

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Is it just me or does everyone have to solve three captchas before posting now?

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>>288033847
Not seeing that here

>>288033881
subhuman paypig

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anime is saved

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Maybe magical girl and narco wars should have ended sooner so more people would stick around to see the cool climax

>>288033847
did you erase cookies or log in from a different device?

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>>288029054
Read island rock.
Super chill series with nice dialogue.

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Post your jump plus face

Make the Exorcist Fall in Love and Centuria are trash.

Make the Exorcist Fall in Love and Centuria are great.

Make the Centuria Fall in Trash and Exorcist are Love.

Since a lot of you don't read the rest of the manga in the magazine. I will tell you how close they are to ending

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>>288034934
>ao hako
The long awaited final between Taiki and Shuji is starting. Taiki is already going to nationals no matter who wins.
I doubt we will get introduced to bunch of new characters for nationals, so the story will probably conclude after this match.

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>>288034992
>hima
They will go on a field trip which takes place right after the date when Tenichi stops being Himari house cleaner and where he will read Honoka love letter.
He will probably confess during the trip then the manga ends.

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>>288035042
>saka
We're still in twin fight. After this maybe Tenkyu will help Shin fight Tanabata then all that's left is Sakamoto vs Uzuki.

Bachi sisters... our manga was meant to be the next Black Clover. What the hell happened to the sales?

our

KINATO WON

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Tsugimanga

AH can still be saved by making volume 1 double length and ending at Little Mei

>>288035373
No one wants to be the next BC and kgb is gonna blow past BC's peak sales when the anime comes out.

>>288029285
>that huge difference in shinobi and kirknato
>UD below gonron
they are doing 5k and 1k each
grim

>>288036479
another dud batch but Saito will be forced to keep onw alive after so much shilling

>>288036528
If Basket Deku is the lowest one then Saito will shill that one. I wouldn't be surprised to see Roku replacing Alien in the bottom

>>288029101
No one cares Jeremy

>>288029101
we care

the himatens owe me sex

>>288033735
Yeah but I think the order will be this: Alien, Kinato and then Doctah

Kinato and Alien will end next round in that order. Doctor will end the round after that, unless Saito keeps putting it on bottom 3, in that case it will end alongside the rest of its batch.

>>288037145
>Keeps the worst selling one
Funny

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>>288037165
He is so easy to read, see
>>288029326

No one can beat Kiyoshi

>>288037234
>No one can beat the secret son of a rich pedo
Of course

i like sorachi's new manga.

>>288029122
What are you talking about?

>>288037165
But it hasn’t sold yet. Past the top 5000 or so Amazon placements are meaningless. It’s like comparing two tiny drops of water to see which is slightly bigger

>>288037365
while kinato is a droplet the droplet known as Gonron is microscopic

>>288037260
why cant Kiyoshi be like his sisters...

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>BC isnt selling at all so stores are putting it on clearance
LMAOOO

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>>288034616

>>288038002
that's a preowned set of volumes 1~33 though

>Kaguraflopshit

>>288033347
Festivals are indeed cringe

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Funny story yesterday. A guy grab kiyoshi and told his friend that it's the next one piece. Friend replied with everyone is trying to be the next one piece.

>>288038794
I heard a kid tried to kill another one with a katana to steal his Kiyoshi manga

Fun fact if you buy Kiyoshi and put the manga next to a pregnant woman the kid will be born sooner because he/she can't wait to read it.

>>288038337
>finale was so shit fans are trying to get rid of their volumes
LMAOOOO

>>288040050
You need a full night of sleep, for real.

>>288040065
i just took a nap thoughbeit

HEROshige peacefully resting on QUEENaki's thighs...

>>288040099
Explains the schizophrenia, I guess.
Consistently interrupted sleep is terrible for mental health.

PlusGODs use this thread

DDD was so shit this week again

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>>288040654
MAD is the superior Monday manga.

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shiba inu rooms is the next big jump+ series

Shame AH introduced Mei so late
I'd be vastly more interested in it if she was there early

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The sports curse continues

>>288042118
BASED Shiro

>>288042118
Alien Headbutt had insane boost these last two chapters, but can it actually save it?

the loli goat isn't that cool

>>288042277
Trust in Goat.

>>288042309
but she is hot

>my manga is failing? i'll start pandering to waifufags who surely read Weekly Fujo Jump
AH author is a genius

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Serialize this now

>>288042477
>native isekai slop
Torishima will never stop shitting on Saito

>>288042477
>CSM but isekai and more souless
Matsui was right

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KINO Piece
Me & RoboKINO
SaKINOto Days
KINO Watch
BLEAK Box
AKINO-baNINO
Nue's Exorcist
KINObachi
Ultimate Exorcist KINOshi
Hima-Ten!
Ichi the WINNER
KINObi Undercover
SomeWON Hertz
ABOVE Doctor
KINOto's Magic
Alien HeadKINO
Roku’s House of KINOties
Drawn to the KINO
Class 2-B Hero Destroyerz

>>288042393
>it works and AH gets a boost in popularity
AH mangaka is a trailblazing innovator

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>>288042580
Is CSM in the room with us?

>>288038794
At a anime con a while back a guy said he liked kiyoshi. The crowd surrounded him and started pulling his limbs off.

>>288042790
its literally the pochita/yoru take over contract

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All the guys are cuter than the gori woman

>>288034934
Roboco and WW are also ending soon

>>288042886
>roboco
lol

Ichi the NoStakes

>>288029294
That gif would only be appropriate if he posted Zolo

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>>288042863
Sex with Shoma.

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>>288042886
>Roboco ... ending soon

>>288038002
This is where kagurabachi is headed.

>>288026155
>Otohi Ogi with "Pyurifaiāzu"
Exorcism slop
>Shigeto Kiji with "Raifu ∞"
Hero Native Isekai sloo
>Ping Pong Peril mangaka new oneshot Yoshiharu Kataoka (Ping Pong Peril) with "Saikyo Joreishi Kan-chan!", with an official color page
Exorcism slop #2 but with some romance
>Hidechika Matsui with " The Demon of Shadow Burial" or known as "Kagesou no Akuma
Exorcism slop #3
>Wamino with " Miyabi yuē Wa Ku"
We want Medalist at home
>Shun Yabe with "Onmyo Donkan Massugu se Ima"
Exorcism slop #4
>Kemuri Taimatsu with “Pen wa ken yori etosetora"
https://imgur.com/a/kmSOhzj
>Tatara Kyou with 'Inyoroku Battle Fantasy Bu'
girl fights monster and has some sort of manager, could count as Exorcism slop #5
>Daiki Nono with "On Stage"
We want Act Age 2
>Wataru Kuroki, as the writer, and Takeshi Kuroiwa, as the illustrator, with "Hangetsu kurīningusābisu"
Exorcism slop #6, this time with panel reuse galore
>Hayashi Tatsuya, with "Mamono no Yusha"
Hero native isekai slop #2
>Odoru Issei with “Shinran - KAMURAN - ”
Exorcism slop #7
>Takumi with "OHALIVE"
Exorcism slop #8 this time with stands
>Jou Tanakura with "Kitsune no yume"
Exorcism slop #9 but in Heian era, also first KGB inspiration mentiones
>Murano Shiki(Or Fumuki Murano) with "Yamori no Iemori"
Exorcism slop #10
>Fujisawa Shinobu with "Aze no mamoribito" or known as "Guardians of the rice paddies"
Exorcism slop #11
>Hokazono Akira, with "Sūpānakkuru ojōsama" or known as "Super Knuckle Lady"
Hero slop that could be yuri slop, basically we want Shy at home
>Fuji Tomoya with 'Niide Reiran
Gagshit
>Chihiro Okuno with "Nairu to Noeru"
Fujimoto esque artstyle drama, at least look somewhat unique
Like 11 exorcism if you dont want to count the girl one, absolutely criminal, with these prospects i think we are better off staying with Kiyoshi

>>288043572
messed up "Pen wa ken yori etosetora" is the girl exorcism slop
Inyoroku Battle Fantasy Bu is hitman slop

>>288030835
Yeah.. and fans in the west had to keep it alive by word of mouth and fuxking voting for it. Because yes Japan did not give a fuck about the series when it first started. We all remember the Char jokes,ugly anya, the stupid long mouth gag, the author is a guro pedo etc.

>>288043654
>and fans in the west had to keep it alive by word of mouth and fuxking voting for it
Why the fuck are foreigners allowed to spam vote the surveys

>>288043943
They should sell the magazine in dollars and it make it so the votes from this are worth more

>>288043572
https://imgur.com/a/inyoroku-battle-fantasy-bu-GE8lTDt
This is the only one I liked out of the batch. The only one I can see working as a series. Horrible oneshots all around

>>288042815
>guy said he liked kiyoshi
I don't believe you

>>288044154
I feel like I'd like the kitsune one once its translated, but reading it on the giga issue must have been really tiring since its exorcism after exorcism slop

Naz Chris is seething over people poking at Torishima's bold comments again
https://x.com/i/status/2053797213277700345

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Do electric Ruris dream of Kyoani shows?

>>288046723
can't get enough of Torishima trvthnvkes
hope he never stops, the man has seen so much.

>>288046287
I still can't get over how bad the author is at designing characters, in terms of both appearance and personality. Doesn't help that he hyperactively cycles through these designs in hopes that one of them goes viral, resulting in none of them leaving any impact.

>>288029054
>Oda loves his manga and now One Piece is more for adults than for children
I agree

>>288046972
>The only thing people care about piss now is power level agenda
>for adult

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>>288047006
I don't think you read One Piece

>>288047073
>random jrpg babblig
>for adults

>>288046725
>Just a tease
What's the point kek

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>>288047379
To advertise their other projects

>>288029054
where can I read it please? All I can find is snippets instead of a full translated transcription

>>288040692
not much discussion of it online though, is it doing OK?

Weekly Shoseki Top 500 (5/4/26 - 5/10/26)
01. Jujutsu Kaisen Modulo #3
03. Kagurabachi #11
04. Blue Box #25
05. Sakamoto Days #27
06. Ichi the Witch #8
15. Someone Hertz #3
18. The Elusive Samurai #25
71. Hima-Ten! #9 (6,291 / 12,979)
96. Me & Roboco #26 (4,316 / 8,560)
102. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi #8 (3,967 / 8,692)

>>288047632
Which series cuck kgb out of number 2?

>>288046723
>bold
More like retarded.

>>288046723
I thought this interview was fake and no one cared about it? Why am i seeing this all over twitter now? Is this the official translation?

>>288048063
Cause agenda-driven retards are responding to it like it's real, not a single person is asking for a source.

Why do people love woke-bachi

>>288047446
Maybe they should use more popular series like maid dragon to advertise

Axel is flaming the fuck out of Saito

>>288048075
>>288048063
The interview itself is real, retard.
I wouldnt be surprised if the translation is real too even if its exaggerated

>>288048131
Hiroto boywifebussy is that good that it revived national socialism in every fujo hearts.

>>288048026
The Five Star Stories vol 19. The manga has been published since 1986.

>>288048131
SNKrapefuges trying to find something to latch on, yes.

>>288048075
You ask too much of bots that roam twitter.

>>288048196
I need hate sex fanart between him and descarass

>>288048196
Hey, I just saw this pic on /cm's Jump thread.

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Heil Hitler

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Keep the discussion chill. We've been having debates wether or not to allow talks around the malediction and wether "akemura was right or not". (cant believe i have to say this) Please just refrain from using the malediction as a reason to justify actual genocides. You're allowed to talk about the malediction and akemura's decision and ideals.

>’Fairy Tail' Manga Return has been advanced by 1 week ahead due to Author Hiro Mashima's Speed finishing way before the Magazine's Editorial Deadline. Now set to start July 29th instead of August 5th, he's also currently serializing a monthly series at the same time.
Why are the authors at Jump so weak in comparison?

>>288047446
I hope Ruri doesn't get released until 2028 i dont want KGB and it to cannibalize each other

>>288048340
anyone who see (((them))) killing 3 diplomats without any reason should've known by now who is right or wrong.

Post John Mikaboshi

Pre order status???

>>288048340
i hate animeniggers for discovering KGB.

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>>288048378
Who cares. Mashima shits out manga fast because his writing is formulaic and he recycles designs constantly.

>>288047632
Why is kiyoshi lower than roboco?

>>288048568
This week's sale (3,967) is lower than Roboco's (4,316)

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>>288048475
Volume 1 of 1 : 回撃のキナト
Amazon Bestseller:
#26,701 in Shonen Manga
#55,858 in Graphic Novels (Japanese Books)

Volume 1 of 1 : UNDER DOCTOR
Amazon Bestseller:
#32,061 in Shonen Manga
#63,526 in Graphic Novels (Japanese Books)


OH NO NO NO DOCTOR KEKS

>>288048323
>>288048340
>>288048391
Even the pol bait sounds boring

>>288048568
Roboco always sells better than Kiyoshi in the end

>>288048673
Ayup those are axe numbers for sure

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Even nips are noticing

>>288048885
This was Kiyoshi's pre order for volume 1 back then on October 24

Amazon pre order digital ranking:
301 - Akane vol 14
314 - SD vol 19
336 - WW vol 19
1,963 - Chojo vol 3
2,699 - Kill blue vol 7
11,834 - Himaten vol 1
16,996 - Necromance vol 2
21,177 - Bucket vol 2
22,405 - Murakami vol 1
26,765 - Kiyoshi vol 1

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>Doctor
>Kinato
>Alien

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>>288048947
Why is Oda's secret kid so fucking bad it's so hard to mamoru him desu

>>288046287
>getting fanarts
KINATO WON

>>288048977
>Saito gives the cp to UD

>>288048131
Good thing the genocide already happened unlike SNK

>>288047240
Yes
Kid hate watching
They only like watching pretty picture

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Damn, by chapter 3 Class 2-B already disappeared from the Top 10, and btw, the comments about this week chapter are rough, there are a lot comments calling it boring, there's not even a thread on Animanch to discuss, i read on Matome 1 or 2 even saying Samurai 8 was more interesting -_-; (Well It was way more interesting lol)
https://twitter.com/user/status/2053838596222918717

>>288049005
Why do they say about ah, kinato and ud?

Alien headbutt is dead
Kinato is shaping up to be good
No one cares for Under Doctor

>>288048990
He probably had the most confidence in it because it had the cleanest art out of the three. Welp it's a flop like the other others so whatever

>>288048568
Roboco has better legs

>>288048977
Why do newfags think fanart matter? Oh wait

>>288049032
Nah he never supports the ones with the most potential

>>288049005
I still hope Sorachi will pull off a miracle and win. If not, well, KGB and Ichi aren't going anywhere, I will just keep reading those.

>>288049032
Basically what >>288049092 said.
Saito always pushes the 2nd worst of the batch, because he doesn't want the best series of the batch to outshine Kiyoshi and threatens Kiyoshi's position.

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>>288047632
Where is the light novel about Sukuna's life that will get a mappa anime Gege
>>288048196
KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*faints*

>>288049172
How does any of that make sense when he let Kiyoshi's batchmates stay alive and they repeatedly outsold Kiyoshi

>>288047969
>even jabba cucks dekek

>>288048131
the fanbase gor AoTified fast because jew Eren killed their favorite twink

>>288049157
Only retards would doubt Sorachi, he's gonna make it just wait and see

>>288048378
>Mashima needa money fast that he needs to go back to Fairy Tail while Jump mangaka can go on hiatus and not feel pressured
lmao

>>288049426
He has alimony to pay

>>288049412
That's exactly what I am doing.

>>288049396
What do you mean? Kiyoshi's batchmates are Himaten (soon to be axed) and Murakami (axed). It's clear that Himaten is the best of the batch, Kiyoshi on the second and Murakami the worst (axed).

Himaten outsold Kiyoshi by 1.5 times and Saito put it out in bottom 5 toc for months, no color pages while Kiyoshi got promoted into top 7 toc all the time, and he gave kiyoshi color pages multiple times. And now Saito is axing Himaten just because he can't stand having Kiyoshi humiliated by an ecchi romcom.

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This is what Saito is shilling

>>288049546
Retard, the point was Saito letting it live that long to continually embarrass Kiyoshi over and over every volume release. Why would he let that happen in the first place if you're not a schizo about him suppressing other manga to save face for Kiyoshi?

>>288049765
Low sales for any manga is an embarrassment for the editorial team, not the mangaka. It's not mangaka responsibility to make his manga sell well, it's on editors.

>>288049816
It's a mangaka's responsibility to make a good manga. You can't sell absolute shit, like Kiyoshi, no matter how good you are as an editor.

>>288049546
Himaten doesn't really seem like an axe even if it's been in the bottom in the last few issues it just got a cp recently and earlier in the year it was out of the bottom pretty consistently

>>288049816
>Low sales for any manga is an embarrassment for the editorial team, not the mangaka
So now it's not because Kiyoshi gets embarrassed but the editorial, glad we ripped up the schizo headcanon this fast.

>>288049835
Extremely good manga could sell quite bad. Good sales is an indication of popularity, not quality. The best manga is usually in josei/seinen category which usually sells lower than shonen. Not talking about Kiyoshi in particular. It's still an editor job to make it better.
>>288049870
What? Saito keeps Kiyoshi not because he wants to embarrass anyone, he keeps it and shills it because Oda said so.

Just found out oda buys 10k copies of each kiyoshi volume
Source:My sources

>>288049904
>What? Saito keeps Kiyoshi not because he wants to embarrass anyone, he keeps it and shills it because Oda said so.
Schizo can't even keep up with the conversation. We're talking about Saito not wanting Kiyoshi to be embarrassed, that's the claim made by >>288049172
>because he doesn't want the best series of the batch to outshine Kiyoshi and threatens Kiyoshi's position

>>288049940
This
>because he doesn't want the best series of the batch to outshine Kiyoshi and threatens Kiyoshi's position
absolutely doesn't mean anything like this
>We're talking about Saito not wanting Kiyoshi to be embarrassed
This "embarrass" was brought up by you here >>288049765 and that is simply because you and constant embarrassment go hand in hand. It lives rent free in your head so you are unable to avoid constantly associating it with everything around you, being a living embodiment of embarrassment yourself. Simple as.

>>288049904
>Extremely good manga could sell quite bad
In WSJ? In Kiyoshi's overshilled position? No. With this level of exposure and shilling there are no excuses why your manga is selling like shit other than it being shit.
"Extremely good manga could sell quite bad" only refers to series that lack any exposure in obscure magazines.

>>288049958
Nice, projecting now because it's clear how easy it is for your schizo conspiracy theories to fall apart upon any scrutiny. If we don't want to use the word embarrassing because it scares you, we can just go back to the direct quote about Saito not wanting a series to outshine Kiyoshi and "threaten" its position.
When it comes to Himaten's involvement, you either acknowledge here that it isn't actually outshining Kiyoshi (so your schizo headcanon remains in tact) or Saito for whatever reason kept it around long enough to keep outshining Kiyoshi in sales over and over.

>>288049978
Wow, it's just that me talking about seinen and josei could give you a hint it wasn't about WSJ.
>>288050005
It's good you understand now your bringing embarrassment up was nothing but a projection of your sad life.

>>288029054
how long would it have taken for flamingo to kill sanji

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Ichibros...

>>288050011
Notice you don't have any arguments left and all you can do is try to flip every insult back to me. You have zero answer as to why Saito kept Himaten around as long as he did to keep outshining Kiyoshi repeatedly. You don't want to acknowledge that Himaten never actually made Kiyoshi look bad enough to truly threaten its position because you'd have to believe otherwise for your schizo conspiracy to make sense in your head.

Kiyoshi never outsold even Chojo or Kill Blue

>>288050011
>it's just that me talking about seinen and josei could give you a hint it wasn't about WS
Except we're talking about WSJ and the mega-overshilled Kiyoshi.

>>288050039
At this point I think you are falseflagging, because being such a retard as you're trying to present yourself is too much even for /wsj/
I will still bite: Himaten is a pure romcom without any gimmick. Jump tends to have at least one. Just like a gag manga. Himaten was kept because evidently there were no pure romcoms editorial wanted to serialize.
>>288050053
And you think, unlike other magazines, in WSJ it's not an editors job to direct manga in a way which will make it sell well?

>>288050097
Alright, squeezed an argument out of you.
>Himaten is a pure romcom without any gimmick. Jump tends to have at least one. Just like a gag manga. Himaten was kept because evidently there were no pure romcoms editorial wanted to serialize.
That's interesting because now we have a manga called Someone Hertz. Since editorial got their romcom that's an instant success, wouldn't this mean Hertz is the true reason Himaten is on it's way out the door and not Saito feeling like Kiyoshi is getting outshone?

>>288050125
Again, you're being retarded. Someone Hertz is not a pure romcom, and me mentioning a gimmick could gave you a hint if you wouldn't be such a retard. Now, do your best, and tell the class what is an actual manga which is on it's way out the door due to Hertz being successful? Hint, this manga overstayed its welcome, but the editorial kept asking mangaka to prolong it for as much as possible, because they did not have Hertz, and now it's finally released of its misery. Name it, I believe in you.

>>288050147
>pure romcom
What does this mean to you? And you definitely don't think it's weird Himaten started heading on its way out around the same time Hertz started emerging as a success?
How much do you have to twist here to think Kiyoshi is fault and not the simpler, earthbound reason that Saito found his new pillar romcom?

>>288050175
>What does this mean to you?
A romcom giving some focus on something else outside of the relationship aspect, duh. What else?
>And you definitely don't think it's weird Himaten started heading on its way out around the same time Hertz started emerging as a success?
No, because it doesn't work this way in WSJ.
>How much do you have to twist here to think Kiyoshi is fault and not the simpler, earthbound reason that Saito found his new pillar romcom?
Hertz is not a competitor to Himaten and it doesn't take its slot. Once Himaten ends, you will most likely see another romcom serialized very soon after.

>>288050202
>A romcom without* giving some focus on something else outside of the relationship aspect, duh. What else?
Fixed

>>288050210
Lmao almost just nuked yourself there but the distinction is meaningless since it disqualifies Himaten anyway from being a "pure" romcom. Those always spend time focusing on things outside of the relationship because characters tend to have more in their lives going on beyond the love interest.
Editorial isn't making a hard distinction either way if you believe Himaten was in the running as a Blue Box replacement. If another romance shows up and quickly shows out with "future tsugi winner" level performance, it makes sense they found their true Blue Box replacement and now they could let Himaten go.

>>288050259
>Those always spend time focusing on things outside of the relationship because characters tend to have more in their lives going on beyond the love interest.
No, they did not, not to the extent of Blue Box focusing on spokon aspect or Someone Hertz focusing on radio jokes.
>Editorial isn't making a hard distinction either way if you believe Himaten was in the running as a Blue Box replacement.
No, retard, because Blue Box isn't a pure romcom. And himaten wasn't a replacement for it. Someone Hertz was. This is why you can see what happened with Blue Box the moment Someone Hertz gained traction. They literally swapped them in TOC lmao, how come something so obvious eluded you completely?
>it makes sense they found their true Blue Box replacement
They did! It's called Someone Hertz though for the romcom aspect. And for the spokon, they are frantically searching for one, but honestly, BB had spokon only as a "gimmick" in the first place.

>>288050303
Okay so Himaten was not intended to replace Blue Box, meaning editorial had no vision of Himaten being a romance pillar in the magazine, so it was always just a filler series they could toss out at any time. The other explanation for Himaten's demise then would be no future in the magazine from static sales performace + poor survey showings.
That's your other option if you keep up this cope that editorial simply didn't find the better romcom manga, because Himaten actually fits this super specific genre in your head and not the other romcoms.

So himaten is on its way out bcuz author doesn't have anything else to say and someone hertz is bb successor ?

>>288050355
>so it was always just a filler series they could toss out at any time
It was just taking a pure romcom slot. Neither BB nor Hertz have anything to do with it. The facts it's out is either because mangaka wanted out/got a better idea (possible due to his first manga) or because editorial believes they have a better replacement for a pure romcom slot.
>Himaten actually fits this super specific genre in your head
Pure romcom is super specific for you? How much of a newfaggot are you?

>>288050388
>Himaten wasn't killed by Hertz or Kiyoshi, it was actually killed by a manga that isn't even out yet
You know what, we can leave it at that

>>288050417
Its sales were shit and it wasn't popular at all. It killed itself and should have been killed earlier.

I want another "guy helps group of girls because of reasons" romcom, maybe involving idols

>>288050482
Doormat shit is half the romcoms out there, especially harem ones, starting with Love Hina.

That kiyoshi dude is so fucking retarded. It's clear that Saito kept Himaten around because he wants to humiliate Himaten by placing it in the bottom toc and kiyoshi above it.

But the reality check comes in, Himaten is still beating Kiyoshi in sales, so he has to axe Himaten now. As for other new series, he can't have new series to actually outdone Kiyoshi. There are only few exceptions, such as Ichi, Shinobi (Saito's shill projects) and Someone Hertz (a surprise hit). Other than that he killed all new series that's slightly better than Kiyoshi.

Just look at UD/Kinato/AH batch. He pushed UD because he knew it could never be better than Kiyoshi. On the other hand, he'd rather axe Kinato because he's afraid it's going to outsell Kiyoshi's first volume as indicated by the pre-order numbers. Same with Roku, Basketball Deku and Gorilla's manga. He's going to kill Roku's momentum, keep Gorilla's manga which is the 2nd worst of the batch and put it in bottom toc to humiliate him, and axe Basketball Deku.

>>288050482
himaten is literally that

>>288050482
If you like the concept of the guy being helpful and great at cleaning, may I suggest you the romcom which precedes Himaten and most likely an inspiration to it, since Himaten is obviously going to end the similar way. Avoid spoilers, it was just as a rollercoaster Genki Ono promised us!
The manga is called GalCleaning!

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pray for...

>>288050599
You really believe you can mess with me like that huh I may be 25 but I've had read my fair share of manga and have been around here for a while now