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Normally a story, anime or movie whatever has a MC with a goal. They want to get stronger, or they want to explore, or solve a problem or something. What is the point of Frieren? She wants to experience what its like to have friends or some shit?

The characters are like cardboard cut outs - I dont remember any of their names, they haven't overcome any real challenge or developed in any way. That purple haired frumpy bitch, the apprentice, what is her purpose?

There's not even any dynamism in the relationships. Theres no flirtation between the males and females; they're neutered, asexual creatures. there's nothing between frieren and her apprentice either, no indication that these people have been travelling together for years. No emotion.

No one has a nice physique in this anime; there is no fan service, no tits, no thigh, nothing, probably bc women aren't capable of understanding beauty of form, see list of famous female artists. the moonface on this bitch, damn.

I guess this just boils down to one thing; I shouldnt be surprised, its written by a womyn after all.
The author is a personality crippled bore. Frieren is her self insert and "duh goddess" Is her ultimate Mary sue sona.
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>>281886679
>There's not even any dynamism in the relationships. Theres no flirtation between the males and females; they're neutered, asexual creatures.
Wrong, the author made sure to include SPH and NTR
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How come all these glorified D&D campaigns are written by women?
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Yeah but I want to sex the elf and the fatty and the demon girl, how about them apples op bet you feel pretty stupid huh? Dumbass
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>>281886679
ChatGPT post
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>>281886882
Please fuck my wife
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Oh look, another post by a tourist from /v/ seething about women and anime
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>>281886679
>That purple haired frumpy bitch, the apprentice, what is her purpose?
She genuinely has no purpose
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>>281886679
>Normally a story, anime or movie whatever has a MC with a goal
So does Frieren. The only way you can have missed it is by not reading or watching the show at all.
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>>281886679
They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.
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>>281886679
yeah the worst part of it all is how dry everything is. characters literally dont show any emotion and act like nothing happened even when they are literally fucking stabbed. even the voice acting is intentionally directed that way to NEVER show any fucking emotion. anyone actually enjoying this is just being fucking pretentious thinking they're watching something deep. I'll tell you : NO. you're just watching a garbage shonen ripping off fucking to your eternity. this is no different than jjk. just because a promising director making it and Evan Call is doing the music doesnt make it a masterpiece. this is shit. the beginning part may be interesting but you'll get to magic exam arc where everything falls apart but i bet you'll still convince yourself you're watching a goddamn masterpiece. because that's what you are, a pretentious fuck who don't have your own taste or opinion. anyone defending this garbage show just want to feel superior to others that they're watching 'something different'. you'll literally eat shit just because its something different than what you usually eat
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>>281886679
My reaction to Frieren hate thread
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>>281886679
The mangaka has a very limited range. NO ONE would give a shit about this without a high-budget anime behind it. Remember that anime anout the spearwoman and the shota and their travels? Neither do I, but back then /a/ was gaga over it, and them promptly forgot it existed after it ended. Why? Because animation quality carried everything about it. That's Frieren.
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>>281887178
Okay, tourist
Go tell other losers on /v/ about your dogshit opinions because they might actually agree with you. After all, none of you have real opinions and just lash out as contrarians against good and popular series.
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battletoddlers....
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>>281886679
then don't watch it. simple as.
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>>281886679
These two threads a day you make complaining about a show you haven't watched and don't understand are hilarious. I can't wait for January when your favorite shonenslop falls to #3 on MAL because Frieren Season 2 is the new #1.
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>>281886859
Frieren is fine. Dungeon Meshi on the other hand? Now THAT'S some hot garbage.
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>>281886679
To your eternity copycat
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>>281886679
It’s not that bad but it is overrated as hell. At it’s core it’s just a comfy travel series with a likeable main character, does it need to be any more than that?
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>>281886679
much like your posting
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but i liked frieren
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>>281887393
Not even remotely true
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>>281886679
You know who else was hated for speaking the truth
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>>281886679
>No one has a nice physique in this anime; there is no fan service, no tits, no thigh, nothing, probably bc women aren't capable of understanding beauty of form, see list of famous female artists. the moonface on this bitch, damn.
This is the main reason it's popular

it's an industry plant to make more woke anime like this where no fanservice happen
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>>281886679
The weirdest thing about this series is how all the characters are emotionless, like everyone’s either an 80-year-old grandma or ChatGPT, no vitality, flat, uncanny.
If it was just Frieren, fine. But when every character in this universe feels like that, it’s just bizarre.
Not saying they need to be hyper-emotional like in the pic, but either way it feels off and unsettling.
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>>281887315
They clearly understand it since they take a contrarian stance to every point. You don’t bullshit about Frieren having no goal unless you know that there’s an explicit goal that gets set immediately, OP even tries to undermine the emotional reasoning for that goal with dismissive language. They understand it, but it triggers them because they are empty, friendless losers from /v/ who are terrible people. Positive messages in anime make them seethe, especially if the anime becomes popular and receives critical praise.
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>>281887232
Based
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>>281887547
Shonen junk would be more to your liking, ADHD brained manchild.
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>>281887536
The quintessential tourist from /v/ who complains about woke and only watches anime for fanservice because he’s a porn addicted loser with no other drives or interests
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>>281887623
>>281887550
>>281887268
>ITS DAAA /v/ TARDS
You're embarrassing yourself reddit kun
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>>281887687
>complaining about reddit
Okay, tourist
You might find more people who care about reddit back on /v/ where you all obsess over and cross post to that site. Are you going to post a twitter screencap next to express your childish sentiments?
None of those things matter here so you expose yourself instantly trying to invoke the boogeyman for your echo chamber on /v/.
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>>281886679
Didn't read lol
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>>281886679
Have a ChatGPT response OP:

I appreciate your perspective on the anime, and it's clear that you're looking for a different kind of experience compared to what "Frieren: Beyond Journey's End" has offered so far. Different viewers have varied tastes, and it's totally okay if this particular anime doesn't resonate with you.

It's essential to acknowledge that everyone has different preferences when it comes to storytelling and character development. "Frieren" might focus more on the emotional and interpersonal aspects of the characters rather than traditional action or challenges. The absence of fan service or specific character dynamics may contribute to a unique storytelling approach that may not be appealing to everyone.

Criticism is a natural part of discussing any form of media, and it's completely okay to express your thoughts. If you find that the anime doesn't align with your expectations or interests, exploring other series that cater more to your preferences might be a good idea.

Remember that each creator brings their own style and perspective to their work, and it's worth exploring a variety of anime to find what resonates with you the most. Mushoku Tensei and "Frieren" are different in their storytelling and themes, so it's understandable if the transition between them feels abrupt.

Ultimately, the beauty of anime lies in its diversity, and there are numerous genres and styles to explore. If "Frieren" doesn't meet your expectations, there are plenty of other series that might better align with your preferences
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>>281887687
Fuck off Chud
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>>281887687
it's the anime industry shill

he's always seething at people noticing things in anime
he even made a long post where he had a breadown saying "anime was always queer coded and only tourists get mad at it" lol
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>>281887948
>shill
>noticing
Oh, this time it’s a tourist from /pol/
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>>281886679
>What is the point of Frieren? She wants to experience what its like to have friends or some shit?
You didn't even get to episode 4?
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>>281887981
this you?
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>>281886679
WOW! You're very smart! Have a piss candy, Mr. OP!
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>>281888134
holyshit lmao
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Will people even give a shit about this series at all if it got berserk 2016 treatment?
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>What is the point of Frieren? She wants to experience what its like to have friends or some shit?
You didn't watch the show.

>That purple haired frumpy bitch, the apprentice, what is her purpose?
You didn't watch the show.

>Theres no flirtation between the males and females
You didn't watch the show.

>there's nothing between frieren and her apprentice either
You didn't watch the show.

>No one has a nice physique in this anime; there is no fan service
You didn't watch the show.

>I shouldnt (sic) be surprised, its written by a womyn (sic) after all.
There is it, the "I hate women" admission. Shit thread. Kill yourself.
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I'd only watch this anime if frieren gave me a footjob
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>>281886715
>>281886984
Why are women infatuated with ntr?
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>>281888272
>>281887565
>>281887232
>>281887802
Are you all inserting into this bland and sexless female character? Is that what /a/ is now, a bunch of gynophilic troons in socks?

I didn't want to come on here and just say frieren is shit. That isn't constructive. I outlined WHY its shit and I'm looking for some reasons as to why I might be wrong.
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>>281888367
>I outlined WHY its shit and I'm looking for some reasons as to why I might be wrong.
Because you didn't watch the show. Can you read? I'm not convinced you can.
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>>281886679
I agree with you. The animation saved the worthless source material.
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>anon doesn't watch it because he doesn't like the vibe
>he should watch it

>anon watch it and still hate it
>"why did you watch it if you hate it anon?"

Really is no way out for him lol
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frieren fans are just Mushoku tensei haters and isekai tourists

they flock to this anime because it has no fanservice and is "mature" (fanservice le bad)
it's for outcasts who can't enjoy better isekais like Mushoku tensei (cuz it's full of le bad porn)

maturity = women having no emotions and showing no nudity
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>>281888634
/thread
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>>281888367
>we have words
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>>281888634
>mushoku tensei
That is also boring as fuck after volume 8, you were there for the erotica but every man who respects himself dropped at volume 9, you fucking faggot
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How on earth do you not know Frieren's goal? It's laid out plainly in the text.
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The author of Frieren is an otaku who never interacted with human beings.
>>281887232
>>281887565
>le autistic, quirky elf is literally me
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>>281888367
Why is it that idiots who have no substantive argument always resort to accusations of self-insertion? I guess I answered my question with the question.
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>>281888272
>>281888737
OMG SO QUIRKY
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>>281889132
>I have no argument, the post.
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>>281886679
I personally consider frieren to be the best anime ever made, but whenever someone like op comments this way about frieren, instead of giving my arguments and detailing why frieren is so superior to other shows, i first ask a question people like op and contrarians in general almost always disappoint with their answer, and that question is very simple: what in your opinion is the best anime ever made?
You will realize that these kind of people not only struggle to answer but also if they do they name some of the most famous overrated anime ever.
So whenever you find someone like op, just ask them what in their opinion is an example of an excellent anime, or just which anime is the best?
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>>281889230
Not OP but Yu Yu Hakusho.
>>281889229
Frieren is reddit.
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>>281889333
Ah, I see now that I'm arguing with a retard. Sorry to hear about your condition; it's incredibly unfortunate that your brain is incapable of functioning normally. Does your caretaker know you're posting on 4chan? I'm sure they wouldn't want you posting here or reading the comments on this site.
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>>281889409
Ok reddit, go watch your quirky chungus show.
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>>281886679
It's no classic/One Piece
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>>281886679
>autistic seething
k
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>>281886679
As usual OP is wrong
This is not why Frieren is uninspired soulless trash.

It does have a goal driving the story.
But it's a vague excuse written on a post-it as part of the incredible twist of "What if we followed the immortal elf after the generic fantasy adventure?"

Everything from that point is made-up on the go with no actual plan, and that's why it feels wrong.
Past the smartass joke about typical fantasy tropes, there's no foreshadowing of future intrigue, no growing mystery beyond episodic adventure that add nothing to the grand journey.
The story is slow vib / contemplative simply so it can be made to last without effort. Likely the reason it was so readily made an anime.
The characters are introduced with sudden complex backstory only because they can't disturb the status quo.
Frieren herself is overpowered, aloof, quirky & ""mysterious"" only so any action from her can be retroactively justified as some 4D plans involving memories older than any human characters. Ignoring immediate stuff because "that's no big deal when you live +1000y"

Also you can keep your misogyny for yourself
It is only different from male written isekai-harem in that it don't use a literal male otaku self-insert.

>>281888541
>The animation saved the worthless source material.
I can easily guess why they chose this.
It's slow so there's a lot you can cut, the actions there is can easily be animated to a higher standard without quality loss from the manga
It mainly features comely girls so it will sell.
And since the author is still making it up on the go, they can just wait until there's enough content to make more.
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>>281888634
>frieren fans are just Mushoku tensei haters and isekai tourists
what if I hate all three?
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>>281886679
Skill issue. I love my autistic flat wife!
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>>281890389
Good post
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>Story about an elf who by definition can't live a life with human perspective and reaction
>Complain that the character doesn't act human
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>>281887363
>sasuga getting every bit wrong
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>>281887613
you should come up with another strawman, coperetard
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>>281886679
The first 5 episodes are better than your favorite anime. Arguably better than some 12-ep classics

The chunin mage exams was hot garbage and the author is a nigger for letting it go on longer than 10 chapters / 3 episodes
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>>281886679
>Normally a story, anime or movie whatever has a MC with a goal.
Yes, and Frieren has tha--

>They want to get stronger
Oh, sorry, wasn't aware you normally consume garbage shounen. Yeah, this show wouldn't be for you.
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People really watch a show where characters don't have Looney Tunes levels of emotional expression and conclude they have no emotions at all.
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Frieren and Serie are goddess-tier designed characters trapped in a boring slog of a manga/anime. Truly a shame.
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>>281886679
You're dumb.
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>>281891399
She doesn't feel right by elven standard either. More of a walking plot device than a character.
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>>281886679
Yeah, but have you considered that everyone being an emotionless husk is actually mature and super cool and awesome?
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>>281886679
Retard
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>>281886679
You choose to use the freedom you gained after realizing that Frieren is shit to... talk about Frieren.
Why?
Go read a good manga, go watch a good anime, what the fuck are you doing here, why the fuck are you doing this to yourself?
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>>281893705
Retarded/pol/tard
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>>281886715
Hot
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>>281893031
too bad Serie will die soon
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>>281886679
She tells you in episode 1 retard-kun: she wants to get to know people better.
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elf thread?
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>>281886679
The one dimensional characters is what made me drop it. The green haired girl is evil for the sake of being evil, the demons are evil for the sake of being evil its just endless plot devices
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>>281896376
Waiting for the next chapter thread
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make a thread about actually good anime that has artistic value
>2 replies
>make a bait thread about garbage like frieren or jjk
>500 replies
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>>281886679
You're overthinking it. Frieren is Medieval Dragon Ball Z written with the offset of a Wizardry party while also catering to Zoomers in the same manner that FMAB was for millennials.
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>>281896696
>ugly flat hag
I fail ito see the appeal
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>>281896687
>catering to Zoomers in the same manner that FMAB was for millennials.
How so? Frieren is a masterpiece regardless of generation
T. Millennial
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>>281886679
>I guess this just boils down to one thing; I shouldnt be surprised, its written by a womyn after all.
The writer is a man. Kanehito is exclusively a male name in Japanese.
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pick your fighter
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>>281888134
How is that false? Anime has had gay shit for decades longer than mainstream American media has, to the point when US dubs used to censor the hell out of them
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>>281895668
Take your pills anon, Freiren is just not a believable character, not even as a quirky immortal who don't know what normal is anymore.
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>>281896967
All jobbers
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>>281888367
I want to insert into her, if catch my meaning.
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>>281896967
My wife (who will kill me)
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>>281888634
I like both.
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hop in
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>>281886679
Wow, that's crazy OP.
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>>281886679
faggot
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>there are “people” who think Frieren is actually good
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>>281897777
What’s funny is that as someone trying to learn how to write, I like to ask you guys as to what you think is actually GOOD writing, in a way with concrete examples that aren’t deliberately ironic or detached, but it never happens because you guys don’t actually think anything is good.
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Respect elves
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>>281897777
it's not just good, it's great
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>>281897777
Digits of truth
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>>281886679
Children cannot relate to adult stories.

>>281888634
>it's for outcasts who can't enjoy better isekais like Mushoku tensei

Mushoku tensei was good in the first season, but it was nothing special. The second season was just boring, pointless bullshit where absolutely nothing happened. That's a big problem with all anime these days, they just can't move forward with their storytelling because they want a second, third, and fourth season.

"TBATE - The Beginning After The End" is the best example of how monotonous Anime has become.
Is just another Isekai shit that Mushoku Tensei so brutally cloned that you can practically swap the video material 1:1 and you wouldn't even notice a difference.

But people watch this crap anyway.

>>281888634
>maturity = women having no emotions and showing no nudity
Which only makes Frieren even more appealing.

Frieren simply shows that the majority are fed up with the repetitive crap we are being fed today.
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>>281898000
Pet Elves.
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>>281898425
What people actually dislike isn’t the formula it’s the enslavement to moral law in JP media. Nine times out of ten when you see any manga or anime fail to deliver, ask any interesting questions, squanders a good setup, etc, it boils down to having to satisfy moral law. Protagonists can’t do anything or even have the APPEARANCE of doing anything that would be considering immoral by JP moral standards. That effectively destroys any sort of morally grey area from being explored. For example, Frieren. Why is Aura’s army empty suites of armor? Her magic has nothing to do with controlling pieces of metal, it’s about controlling people. Why empty armor? Because moral law prohibits Frieren from even the APPEARANCE of attacking innocents. Even though the narrative makes it clear Frieren was being non-lethal with the armors (clearly indicating that they’re supposed to be humans), but just the IMAGE of Frieren being violent with innocent people is not allowed. Once you learn to noice JP moral law you will see it EVERYWHERE. This is advanced JP media literacy most of /a/ is too low-IQ or not experienced enough to figure out on their own.
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>>281896751
>ugly
cheap bait
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>>281886679
You're just mad because you identify with the demons and you're seething at the portrayal of them being irredeemable pieces of shit (with no exceptions) that aren't worth communicating with. The fact that there are no exceptions triggers you.

Get over it.
Frieren is good, not everything needs to be woke.

Roundhouse kick a demon into the concrete.
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>>281886679
It was a kewl up until the cave tournament arc.
I found the hiding powerlevel for deception and the grand reveal satisfying.
After that it was just eh whatever
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>>281886715
NTR fags deserve death
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was about to start this manga then i just realized it made by a woman.
hell nah i'm not a feminist. im not reading or watching anything by w*men
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>>281887259
>spearwoman and the shota and their travels
title pls? because I genuinely can't remember
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>>281900255
okay scratch that, I forgot jewgle now uses AI powered suggestions
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>>281898425
>Children cannot relate to adult stories.
That's why you don't like MT.
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>>281886679
Your mum is uninspired soulless trash
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>>281900516
You're so real for this
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>>281897918
If you want to get tips on writing you basically have to be contrarian to the contrarian tourists from /v/ since they hate good writing

>>281898907
Frieren is woke, the demons represent fascists. Predators that only use human language to lie.

>>281888134
Seems I’ve triggered you almost as much as the progressive ideology in anime
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>>281898425
>The second season was just boring, pointless bullshit where absolutely nothing happened.
Saying this while liking Frieren is an example of a total lack of self awareness.
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>>281897777
Based
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>>281887259
If you are talking about Seirei No Moribito you should shut your whore mouth because it is 10 times batter than anything made in the past 5-6 years.
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>>281887363
Absolute bullshit, Danmeshi feels alive and vivid, has actually fun characters and worldbuilding, Frieren is lethargic dogshit
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>>281887259
>NO ONE would give a shit about this without a high-budget anime behind it
The manga was very popular way before the anime came out, you have no idea what you are talking about
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>>281901789
Why do you lie
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>>281901789
Why do you lie
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>>281901737
Neah. I found Dungeon Meshi way more boring than Frieren despite Frieren being much slower paced in earleir episodes.
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>>281887363
>>281901737
>>281902518
I like both Frieren and Dungeon Meshi
It feels so good to live life being able to enjoy things
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>>281900169
Why is reading something by a.. male better?
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>kuudere
>doesn't give a fuck about how OP she is
>thoughtful story about regret and the passage of time
works for me
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>>281896645
This board is down the gutter for sure but don't kid it, JJK is over as it can be, until the next season of anime airs.
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>>281886679
you didn't even watch it
more than half the shit in your post is outright wrong. you're a retarded gorilla nigger
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>>281898000
never
she's silly and childish
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>>281902753
I don't dislike DM, but I'm kind of forcing myself though it because I like the concept and feel like it has potential.
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>>281886679
Go back to your generic shounen
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>>281886859
>How come all these glorified D&D campaigns are written by women?
Record of Lodoss War was written by a guy. And Ryoko Kui legitimately loves western CRPGs including the D&D ones. It makes sense that she'd write D&D inspired fantasy.
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>>281901737
I'd give it Danmeshi simply because the characters don't all react to everything with a state of nonplussed bemusement. I swear this whole cast of characters from the immortal elves to the warriors kinds only ever react to literally everything with -_-
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>>281886679
>Didn't read OP
I know you wanted to discuss Frieren and worship her beauty.
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>>281906463
shes a potato
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>Normally a story, anime or movie whatever has a MC with a goal.
The best MC of all time ignores this trend, perhaps others should follow.
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>>281898000
They're for headpats
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>>281907776
>Frieren will never headpat you
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>>281889023
>https://ghibli.fandom.com/wiki/Studio_Ghibli#Name
>name "Ghibli" is derived from the nickname the Italians used for their Saharan scouting planes (Caproni Ca.309 Ghibli) in the Second World War (and later for the AMX International AMX and Maserati Ghibli), which is derived from the Libyan word for hot wind blowing through the Sahara Desert (also known as sirocco)

>shiroko (blue archive)

https://youtu.be/KhKP3NsG1Nw?si=6OBBWeqQ8TT7uMnj
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>>281898425
>The second season was just boring, pointless bullshit where absolutely nothing happened.
Did you watch this show? How many anime have a season where the main character marries and has children?
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>>281888634
I like Frieren and I like Mushoku trash before it turned into garbage, cope, tranny
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>>281886679
I have seen so many anime where protag goal was to live "normal life" or "measured live" and then failing at every step at this point I don't think OP watched anime at all and just shouts at popular things.
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>>281886679
You're acting like it needs to be perfect.
It doesn't.
It can't.
There's only one example of perfection.
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>>281888634
I hate both
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>>281886956
Looks like a reddit post to me. Reddit folks are so conditioned to talk like they do there and write in the exact same format Reddit imposes when making a post they come here and seem to forget they aren't there.
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>>281902753
>I like both garbage and shit
>It feels so good to live life being able to enjoy things
You people are ruining anime by hyping up these garbage series
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>>281907670
>The best MC of all time ignores this trend, perhaps others should follow.
Pic unrelated I guess
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>>281906169
Frieren is generic af, the world is so fucking boring
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Everyone on /a/ is some sort of contrarian faggot
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>>281909623
Maybe you should get better taste instead of hyping up garbage series?
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>>281886679
>to get stronger
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>>281886679
>They want to get stronger
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>>281893031
I need to fuck Serie
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>>281909598
your garbage and shit, my gold and masterpiece
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>>281886679
Can't stand that balloon face
Are we catering to the west now?
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>>281909754
Fuck off /pol/tard
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>>281886679
OP, it seems you've never lost someone who was close to you that you regret having not spent more time with.
Frieren's goal is to make up for that lost time by going to Heaven and communicating with Himmel if she can.
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>>281902753
Based things enjoyer.
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>>281886679
It's just boring and the comfy atmosphere wears off in the second half.
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>>281909711
nobody fucks serie.
still, not all is lost, serie may fuck you if she finds you interesting enough.
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>>281886679
Frieren's fine if you dismiss the uninspired story and lackluster characters and treat it like your average shonen anime, it has a stellar animation going for it as well so it's easily enjoyable if you turn your brain off.
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I just finished it, would say it's like 7.5-8 imo. All the good parts come from Frieren herself. Her autism, her hatred of demons, and the kindergarten-level existentialism philosophy coming from her learning to cope with short human lives.
And the overall mood of the comfy adventure, but for some reason I wasn't feeling it that much the further it went. Probably because a lot of the episodes felt almost like a blatant fillers except they all are connected to the story every time, but sometimes it still feels like a a filler, and some of them were comfier than the other. I can't even pinpoint a single episode that is plain good or bad, it's more like each episode has great or bad moments here and there, but it never feels like there's enough of those great pieces.
Almost all characters are boring cardboards, even Fern and Stark who are main characters could've used some actual development. Also holy shit Fern is even more autistic than a 1000 years old elf who raised her, except not in a good way.
I really really liked the TDD way Frieren deals with demons and I wish there was more of it. All the other combat, it was okay, generic anime shounen battle. Last FvF fight was cool, even if mostly just carried by the really flashy explosions.
The soundtrack was surprisingly mediocre.
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>>281910039
Clearly I must beat the first class mage exam, and when she interviews me I tell her how hot and fuckable she is
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I enjoy elf.
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>>281910062
better put it in verse or something to be a bit different, she's probably very bored of hearing it.
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>>281910058
>The soundtrack was surprisingly mediocre.
I could get all the others to some extent but this is just ludicrous
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>>281886679
True
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>>281886679
>They want to get stronger
kek OP is retard
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Need elf.
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>>281910374
Yeah, I'm listening it right now and it's really good. Now I have no idea why the anime left such an impression about it.
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>>281886679
I bet you wouldn't dare call out any generic cute girl slop fanservice show as being "uninspired" and "soulless"
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>>281910896
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>>281886679
>Normally a story, anime or movie whatever has a MC with a goal.
so what?
bait or you are just plain stupid, i don't read later
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>>281909754
yes, and the weabs want to allow it, they get mad and defensive if you notice things.

Anime is already being censored to death

a japanese told me in 1 year or 2 Japan will be under the control of Korea. Everything including anime will be korean

SoloLeveling won aoty 2024 it's proof that anime is so dead.
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>>281911742
blame the western investors and woke
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I hate demons.
I hate demons.
I hate demons.
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>>281911765
>>281911742
Brownoids poltards
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>>281912427
I want to bring total demon death to the world with Frieren
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>>281886679
Not reading all that. Sex with flat, short elves. That is all.
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>>281910896
>uszaty smieszny
more like usztasi smieszny
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>>281912734
Go back into your grave, Himmel
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>>281912734
>Sex with flat, short elves.
You're gay
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>>281912734
>Sex with flat, short elves.
You're straight
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>>281886679
Her goal is to repeat a journey that she didn't value enough while making it. It's a feeling you only understand later in life then something important is gone.
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>>281912427
It feels more like she's apathetic towards them in general. Just like bugs, she doesn't go out of her way to exterminate them, but she will step on one if she comes across it.
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>>281910058
I remember kept wanting Frieren to show some level of emotion beyond bored indifference and stoicism. Will she get mad that someone tried to pay her in yet another fake Flamme grimoire? Will she at least pretend to be pressured when going into combat, including with greater demons? Will she try to rebound onto one of the other characters after the 100th flashback of Himmel? Will she go through a phase of wanting to dump her party out of despair of how quickly humans will grow old and die? Will not Frieren be bombarded with requests to recount stories from the war with the Demon King? Wait, why do literally none of these top-tier mages in the exam know who Frieren is? Like, what's going on? Does Frieren get into ANY kind of beef with Serie? "I failed to see you at the Demon King battle, so I must commend you on your stealth magic". At least some personality. Nope. Nothing. The 1000-year-old elf's personality amounts to challenging Mimics and carrying quirky luggage practices.
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>I remember kept wanting Frieren to show some level of emotion beyond bored indifference and stoicism
She does in basically every episode, but it doesn't trigger with autists.
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>>281912438
you lost
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Notice the types of people who defend Frieren:
>she is hecking silly
>i love this autistic elf
>let people enjoy things
These are the same type of people who "enjoy" Azumanga or Lain in the current year. Please go back to xwitter or whatever shithole you came from.
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>>281914048
>I made up a bunch of stupid expectations, why didn’t the show fulfill them!?
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>>281914216
Okay tourist, go back to /v/
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>>281914048
>Why doesn't she do leangry face when things mildly inconvenience her?
>Do they not even turn her face red with steam coming out of her ears like in normal cartoons??
>How am I meant to know when characters are expressing emotions without flashing backgrounds and claxon noises?

This board is hopeless lol
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>>281914373
That post should give you hope for the board actually, the dude’s description of “the TDD way Frieren deals with demons” should have clued you into the fact that he’s a tourist from /pol/ rather than someone who belongs on /a/. It’s just another confirmation that all of the shitposts on this board come from tourists.
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>>281914048
>Does Frieren get into ANY kind of beef with Serie?
Based retarded anon.
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This anime is only popular thanks to /pol/ and Maga who compare demons with illegal immigrants
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>>281914560
Is that the only screencap you have of me? What happened to the others? Or is that a different tourist who wants to turn me into a boogeyman by being an obsessive stalker? I’d be happy if a second one of you losers is slipping into that derangement since that first guy didn’t commit to spamming screencaps of my posts like I very much want you to do. I suppose in that sense I should still give you a headpat for spamming this one like you’ve tried to do so far.
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>>281914649
BASED
frieren will kill all swarthoids TND, TBD, TPD. Total white victory
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>>281914290
>/v/
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>>281914663
i just found it to be funny since you act like there is no woke in anime
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>>281886679
I don't agree with most of what you're saying, but I do agree that the character writing is generally shit.
Everyone has the same kind of flat, emotionless kind of personality. They're not exactly the same, but it's like everyone is just a variant on the same kind of default personality.
Character writing is shit, it has no plot, and there's no real message to the story. It's just watching shit happen. There's no subtext or meaning to anything.
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>>281886679
That's not true the first 10 chapters were good...
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>>281914760
Well no I just act like anyone who uses the term “woke” is a dumb piece of shit and a tourist who doesn’t understand a single thing about anime, because that’s the truth
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>>281914446
>can't follow literal 2 posts chain and tell one anon from another
>accuses anyone of being a tourist
Just because I check boards other than /a/ doesn't make me /pol/tard.
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>>281914820
Why would I assume two long blog posts repeating the same shitty opinion are different posters?
At least you admit to being a tourist piece of shit lol
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>>281914048
Children think that emotionless face is the equivalent of being mature, pls understando.
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>>281886679
kys tranny your opinion is shit
>>281914138
best elf
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>anything more than a single sentence is a blogpost
>any kind of criticism is the same opinion *ignores all the positives*
lol indeed
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>>281914373
NTA but having an unnaturally stoic emotionless character is as ridiculous as everything you listed. Not even the Rei Ayanami type.
At least the anime had great animation so it cannot be called Hirai-face cheap.

Also >>281914048 is right to question why a character as OP, famous (and old) as Frieren, with statue of her in the street, would not be recognized by anyone with an interest in powerful magic.
>Wait, why do literally none of these top-tier mages in the exam know who Frieren is?
If I had to guess, I would say the author wanted to make it look humans have short-memory and can't keep track of what's important
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>>281915063
>low effort greentext
>any kind of counterpoint is evasive
*deny all the negative*
Indeed, indeed.
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>>281886679
Frieren is basically an animated litrpg. It's not even dogshit, just painfully mediocre.
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>>281901737
>worldbuilding
>hi, let's talk about eco friendly agenda in our MAGIC dungeon
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>>281916840
Using the fantasy genre for environmentalist messages is another one of those things that anime has been doing since before you were born lol
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>>281886679
I watched it because having to deal with outliving all her friends seemed like an interesting concept but she is far too autistically written for it to be compelling and it's more interested in being a generic fantasy anime. I read the manga and it's mostly filler side adventures.

Why did the older priest outlive Himmel and stay 6'3 until death but Himmel turned into a dwarf?
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>>281915213
>ould not be recognized by anyone with an interest in powerful magic.
Because most people are not interested in magic.
Because in general she tries to keep a low profile.
Because how many people truly notice the faces of the heroes behind the statues that were erected 80 years ago?
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>>281915213
Has she been wearing the same clothes for 100 years?
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>>281886679
Yeah it's really bad. it had an interesting premise, but fell flat and then turned into a battle shonen. Zoomers are just starved for good anime and don't know what one looks like.
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>>281917325
>the writing is too autistic
>wtf people age differently and Himmel’s old age was used for gags!?
Tourists are so dumb lol
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>>281917325
>Why did the older priest outlive Himmel and stay 6'3 until death but Himmel turned into a dwarf?
Living with the Dragon horn next to him for decades
or the lack of elfussy
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>>281917460
Yes she is far too autistic to make it interesting.
>gag question was about le gag
You are so smart.
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>>281888134
nta but that image is kind of true
anime has always been made by people unsatisfied with society so it being largely progressive makes sense
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the reason shills hate frieren and try to desperately downplay it all the time is because of its depiction of what are the demons, and how they behave in that world

its too close to what they are in real life and how these people behave themselves
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>>281917545
>I was just pretending to be retarded
Okay, tourist
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>>281917383
>Because most people are not interested in magic.
sounds like a plot for little witch academia!
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>>281886679

>Tell me you didn´t watch it without telling me you didn´t watch it.

Everything you said is fundamentally wrong. It´s alright to not like or care for it but if you are going to criticize it at least get your facts right. Otherwise you sound like an idiot.
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>>281916840
Idgaf as long as the characters aren't emotionally numb zombies which Frieren is guilty of
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>>281886715
Frieren xisters, what is this?
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>>281918758
Yeah the show that became wildly popular breaking into the mainstream surely must be too stoic and autistic to be compelling…
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>>281918885
Being palatable to the lowest common denominator isn't a mark of quality. Peak fire yoooooooo ahh just like Marvel.
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>>281918984
Your opinions are below the lowest common denominator of the mainstream. You just shitpost because you’re a stupid contrarian who doesn’t even like anime. You’re a worthless tourist.
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>>281919062
I didn't even say frieren is bad I said appeal to majority is retarded.
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>>281919173
Mainstream appeal directly contradicts your contrarian bullshit about it being too autistic and stoic to be compelling. You’re just regurgitating dumb lies from the same echo chamber where you all complain about Marvel as if anyone else gives a shot. You tourists from /v/ aren’t even pretending to be retarded, you’re just brain damaged trash.
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>>281919227
Lol as per usual you can only cry about your other board boogeyman. I'm sorry it makes you angry that you have the same taste in media as a retarded teenager.
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>>281919323
Having the same taste in media as retarded teenagers and little girls is part of the bedrock of otaku subculture lol
Every single thing you tourists say reveals how stupid and disingenuous you are, as well as how you’re just dumb cunts from /v/ and /pol/ who don’t know this board’s culture at all
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>>281919443
>Having the same taste in media as retarded teenagers and little girls is part of the bedrock of otaku subculture lol
Ah... You're a broony too. Should have figured.
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>>281919507
If you think of a western show and fanbase instead of precure you’re just confirming once again that you’re a tourist from /v/ with culture war brain brain rot
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>>281917383
Except we are specifically talking about people with an interest in powerful mage who should, at least, wonder who is that elf and if she could be someone they've inevitably heard about.
You can hardly call the staff she carries around for an eternity as low profile. Assuming her ears are also not that rare in the setting.
And I'm not counting the author being lazy with >>281917415. Speaking of little details beside clothes, those statues are incredibly precise, quite the craftsmanship, and yet that's a very boring pose.
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>>281919227
You are acting like an overdefensive fanboy who have never known better yet act as if Frieren is top fantasy.
It's like seeing a Narutofag believing his shonen is top quality writing.
I bet you'll pretend I'm a samefag or whatever.
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>>281919716
You’re acting like trash
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>>281919613
It's as if someone was talking to you about statues from WW2. I'm sure they acomplished great deeds, but they're ancient history to me.
To be fair Denken noticed her and he's the only one from her generation, it's no wonder the younger ones aren't as familiar.
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>>281918885
>wildly popular breaking into the mainstream
Not an indicator of quality. And it became popular because Frieren is sexy, let's not kid ourselves here, also foot fetish bait
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>>281919955
>It's as if someone was talking to you about statues from WW2
With literally the person they made the status of in front of you. With ears that say "this person lives forever", while likely taught why those persons deserved statues because there's no social media to rot your memories.
And here I'm pretending she didn't wear the same clothes, same staff, and could have just looked like another elf.

The story simply doesn't feel anywhere as natural as fanboys defend it.
When I read it, it became painful to see so much wasted opportunities to make the setting more organics. That's why it felt lazy.
You'd think an artist who don't focus on art would put more effort on writing.
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>>281920461
But it is an indicator that it is compelling and not inscrutable due to stoic autism. It’s funny that you tourist NPCs have this one single line about popularity and quality that you all regurgitate on command.
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>>281916938
>environmentalist messages
What messages? You can solve everything this MAGIC? Very inspiring.
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>>281920559
>the story did something other than the random expectations I made up for it so it’s lazy
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I sure do love stories where people are only allowed to die in flashbacks. I love having no stakes!
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>>281886679
ᛞᛁᛖ ᛁᚾ ᚨ ᛞᛁᛏᚲᚺ ᚠᚨᚷᚷᛟᛏ
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>>281920601
>But it is an indicator that it is compelling
No it's an indicator that the marketing team is doing their job properly, promoting this 'le based elf' among faggots like you
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>>281920985
See even the way you frame your shitpost as sarcasm just reinforces that the real problem is you’re an irony poisoned loser who can’t engage with media genuinely so you need to be “tricked” into believing the stakes set up in stories while the entire time you nitpick irrelevant things to outsmart the story and confirm your biases. It’s over, ningen shikaku, incapable of independent thought and functioning.
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>>281921172
>No it's an indicator that the marketing team is doing their job properly
when humans who see themselves as better than demons act high and mighty when they insult themselves by calling themselves gullible and easily brainwashed by media
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>>281920559
But again, it's like saying this person is wearing the same clothes as that statue that from 50 years ago - why would anyone notice such a thing?

I don't think it's that big of a deal, but I partially agree with the general point. I could get most of the mages not knowing her, but the proctors aka the first class mages should have.
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>>281920919
>random expectation
>just expecting it to improve
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>>281921528
Realism isn’t a standard, it’s a style. It wouldn’t be better for having matched your dumb expectations. After all, you’re a tourist piece of shit who doesn’t know anything about anime or the arts in general lol
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Midwit the anime.
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watch it english dubbed
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>>281922162
>dubbed
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>>281920985
Serie will die in the present
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>>281921517
>why would anyone notice such a thing?
I cannot imagine not noticing someone -at worst- cosplaying as the metal-colored statue, noticing the ears that are giveaway for an immortal person. Not counting the staff. The clothes AND the staff should have triggered absolutely anyone, even a stranger, simply from pattern recognition.
I would have agreed if the statue was not as detailed and looked far too epic to put together with a lookalike traveller.
And it's not necessarily about having already met or seen her, it's about putting things together with things you've inevitably heard because of her achievement.
Even if in the case of Frieren there's already one closer to godhood. I suspect Series as a character was created solely to make Frieren look less OP.
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>>281921704
>tourist
Proof you say that of anyone
>dumb expectation
>just expecting the story to improve
Keep imagining strawmen if you want, at this point we should accuse you of being a false flag to make Frieren fanbase look bad.
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>>281922608
At this point you tourists should just kill yourselves. You’re never going to fit in and it’s always going to be obvious when you pop over from /v/ to shitpost because everything you say is exactly what every other dumb cunt says. Since you’re all disingenuous trash incapable of producing original thoughts you just repeat the same bullshit nonstop.
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>>281887536
You don't understand what woke is
You don't understand what beauty is
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>>281902185
There's no lie here
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>>281914138
I found her autism very relatable
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>>281914649
Not in the slightest
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>>281901297
>the demons represent fascists
Lol. Lmao.
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>>281922302
But to most people who heard of her she's the elven mage of the hero's party, not some god like being. Himmel was the one who took the spotlight.
You're putting a lot of emphasis on the statue but my point is that in real life, people almost never stay and get fully absored by the sculptures. They just go "it's some dude on a horse".
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I don't hate frieren at all but it is genuinely bizarre that social media nitwits still believe it's got even the most basic depth beyond normal shonen pandering
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>>281926331
You wouldn't get it, monkeigh
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The most erotic anime girl of the 2020s.
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>>281927072
Probably not
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>>281924904
It’s not “the” statue, there’s statues of the party all over the country. There’s no way advanced high-level mages who are deep into magic study wouldn’t notice such a huge magic celebrity.
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>>281927179
not even the most erotic girl in her own anime
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>>281927072
how are the Rogue Trader waifus? I originally didn't want to like or buy WotR but when I happend to get it they were pretty noice.
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>>281927320
Cassia and Kibellah are good
Jae is just ugly
Yrliet is... kind of a mess. Very controversial character

I'd say everyone likes Cassia, can't go wrong with her.
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>>281927320
Your choices are:
>Mutant
>Heretical cultist
>Xeno
>Whore
Only the female rouge trader got a normal romance option.
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>>281886679
>uninspired
You sure?
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>>281927355
>>281927457
I'll have to rely on my dislike of Warhammer (beside memes I guess) to resist, welp
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>>281927179
Erotic? Not a chance.
Definitely my favorite though
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>>281886679
I was going to give it a watch until i found out Asmongold likes it
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>>281927578
What kind of basis is that for judging
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>>281888634
I haven't watched an isekai since ReZero S1, but I have downloaded Mushoku Tensei and not downloaded Frieren, so Mushoku Tensei is winning, it just seemed more interesting. The descriptions of Frieren sounds eerily like Trails JRPG series, with nicely crafted content loop but constrained low stake plot. Could still be enjoyable. Maybe I'll actually start watching something one day.
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>>281886679
deal with it, the Kino format is excellent
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>>281928207
>Frieren even ripped off the gratuitous German use
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>>281886679
OP written by AI
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>>281886715
Reminder that despite saying this she still wants to slobber all over it due to their relationship and them pretty much dating.
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>>281929141
Start is a grower
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>>281928767
the criticisms all feel off and dumb, yet the show independently is quite meh in fact the original story is so overrated, I'm a manga reader. Strange conflicted feelings from it.
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>>281921008
kek
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Upcoming matchups guaranteed
>Stark v Wolf
>Fern v Gazelle
>Serie v Lowe
>Sein v Kreis
Not foreshadowed but probably :
>Frieren v Wahlross
>Sense v Clematis
>Falsch v Schritt
Screencap this
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>>281886679
>uninspired soulless trash
projection #281886679 on the left please
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>>281930010
cute elf
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I'm excited for tomorrow.
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>>281927457
>Heretical cultist
You mean imperial, pious and strong. Best waifu better than Cassia
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>>281886679
The less butthurt trans ntr rape tengoku daimakek fan
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>>281887547
It's like Violet Evergarden but every character has Violet's bland emotionless personality
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>>281932787
It's subtle.
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>>281933047
Nobody says "we hate Clematis because he's a hardass" but they all hate Clematis since he's a hardass. It's also why he's Sense's foil, another hardass in a different way.
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>>281920985
Why are you reading shounen manga and visiting its thread then anon-kun?
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I'm not the only one who understands how this works, right. The Shadow Warriors are the Continental Magic Association predent except with bonds formed in darkness. Once you realize that it's easy to see the matchups. We're already moving in that direction with Ubel v Iris and Land v Routine. Except, Stark and Fern are going to switch opponents and fight the mirrors of the other, it's been set up.
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>>281886679
I agree with your point but your arguments for your point are mostly stupid. especially fanservice. how exactly does that add "soul" to a story you retard?
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Ubel v Iris
>Darkest mage v lightest sw
>Fuck you I do what I want
Land v Routine
>avoid and find workarounds for pain
>embraces pain to grow stronger
Happy tavern girl who barely cares about the mission, vs natural mage that misses the point.
Isolated but focused mage that understands magic to the nth, vs absolutely loyal sw that is capable through the most intense training.
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My matchups will be correct.
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Frieren v Wehrlos
>Ancient heroes yet humble
Sense v Clematis
>Idealistic leaders one pushes for highest ideals, the other pushes there's into the meatgrinder for the list
Falsch v Schritt
>the hidden blades
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>>281886679
I'd say that on top of being one of the most generic fantasy settings imaginable this is one of the series who does the "overpowered MC" the worst, Frieren and Saitama have this thing where they barely emote during most of the series (and the fights) so it is just plain boring to watch since you know they will always win and nothing really is a stake, the mangakas are just dragging the ever loving shit out of a premise past it's breaking point for profit, they have no idea what to do with the overpowered MC anymore to the point the mangas ended up shifting focus to other characters while sidelining the MC just so they can have something to write and more "fair fights", but even then you know the MC would show up and save the day if those characters are losing so they won't die, I think a good example of a overpowered character done right would be Adam Blade from Needless, he's ridiculously powerful but he always takes a HUGE beating before winning, he always struggles, he sometimes gets wounded by weaker enemies to the point of nearly dying because said enemies outsmarted him or caught him off guard but he always gets back up and wins in the end, the fact that he always struggles so much despite his power not only makes him more likeable it also help selling the idea that there are actual stakes, he had to make a huge sacrifice during his final fight and the manga knew when to end, that also helps, plus he emoted a lot unlike Frieren and Saitama
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>>281933612
You lost the plot. Frieren is about relationships.
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>>281933612
A demon would never understand.
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Glucht is willing to go into the depths of hell, because he has understood how he's manipulated human relationships. He's willling to go to the depths of hell to bring peace. But, he has resigned himself to understanding in his age that his goals will force him to make a deal with the devil that ultimately fails in a land full of fool's gold. It's something Glucht could not deliver by his own means, so he embraced power (Macht) to make it so. But, that power destroys his own people.
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The soft power is not there. Except in the heart of the volks which he uses as a bracelet on a demon who doesn't acknowledge it.
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Will he be held responsible, Denken is worried. Glucht was born into conspiracy and conditioned by it. And what will Denken do?
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And then there is Frase and her magical special forces. That are still unknown quantities. They are peacekeepers but only Neu has really exposed their abilities.
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Land and Frase have one panel of history.
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>>281933612
Based
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>>281933932
Go watch something dumb then.
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>>281933915
her dream is Flamme's dream. Frieren will TnJ her
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>>281886679
popular thing... bad
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>>281933950
It's possible that her wish to have a magical empire might see the CMA as a threat while she still wants to expose the shadow warriors.
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>>281934004
Maybe not a threat, but competition. And within the empire it's all political. Frase might want a scenario in which Serie dies amd Shadow warriors are apprehended. It might be the best possible conclusion for her agenda.
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>>281886679
OP watched this fight and his onions brain couldn't comprehend a low stakes fight
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>>281909592
AI is heavily trained on reddit.
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>>281934019
Does Frase know Flamme wished for Serie to take charge of the imperial mages?
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>>281934046
It's hard to tell. And I can't remember any part that Serie acknowledged Flamme as being right about anything.
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That's what's amazing about the sw's they're the humans solitair was so fascinated with. Without magic they voyaged the seas, and now they defy the order of magic by refusing to acknowledge it and working around it in human ways.
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Every mage sees Series vast mana reiautsu Shadow warriors see a person that does magic and work around it. Flamme understood this about humans, Frieren understands it by learning, but Serie....
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>>281886679
shounenDEITY i kneel
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It's why Lowe is her perfect foil. He doesn't see the mana she emanates, he just sees an opponent who is on the list.
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>premonition of Serie getting decapitated panel this chapter
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>>281934185
I do as i please.
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I expect a Flamme flashback in the fight v lowe that adjusts series' thinking and I hope she gets a scar.
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>>281934269
There is absolutely no way Serie fights Lowe, the only outcome of this will be her death.
It has been established that she has come here looking for a fight, every future that she can see she dies in, decapitated by an unknown assialant
She literally cannot see a future in which she lives because she cannot imagine a solution that doesn't involve just trying to kill people. She is heavily constrained by a skill issue in imagination, which is why she's gambling on oddball mages who exceed her in that capacity creating a route she cannot see.

Remember, Flamme is always right.
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>>281886679
I want to rape her cute ass
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>>281934316
No, she survives. But, she's forever marked by a scar, reminding not just her, but everyone else of her mortality. Frieren could even tell her it looks very human.
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>>281934316
cute loliren
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>>281934345
She will survive, because there are very little routes to her death that make any narrative sense. But she won't be the one to avert her own fate either because she literally can't.
She's gambling on the lessons Flamme and Frieren tried to tell her.
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I think the main problem why people think this is gonna be some sort of slice of life story and get confused after the first 4 episodes is because of the fake english title the translators came up with.
The japanese title "Frieren the Slayer" is much more upfront and clear that this is going to be a shonen battle series.
So once again the blame lies entirely with the translators
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>>281934523
>battle shonen with no stakes, plot or a compelling world
What were they thinking?
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>>281934486
It's why it's perfect for a Flamme flashback, "don't underestimate them"
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>>281934535
You forgot
>no fan service
both female characters are dressed like muslim women
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>>281934523
The Japanese title is a double entendre which means both sending someone off at a funeral and sending someone to their funeral
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>>281934576
Kanne and Lawine were great for that. I miss them.
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>>281934523
>The japanese title "Frieren the Slayer"
That's the french title you dumb tourist lol
The Japanese title is Sousou no Frieren which doesn't have a direct translation since it's a play on words
It's sort of translates to Frieren the pall bearer or something like that, since she watches over the deaths of her friends and enemies
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>>281934486
It’s dangerous to try and predict the narrative direction of the plot because of how bad it is, but I’m going out on a limb here and say that Serie is going to become the next Maou (“demon king”). There’s going to be something which is going to something like a magic source or something like that in the old Maou castle which she is going to secure in order to bring about her ambition for the Great Magic World to borrow a Fairy Tail term. She will gather up the great demons and together with her loyalists from the MA form the next demon army. Whatever she does it may even be related to what the first Maou was trying to do. In any case, this directly gets in the way of Frieren’s journey to meet Himmel in the afterlife which as we recall lies in an area beyond the castle. I could be wrong about any of the particulars except that Serie is going to take on a role similar to the Maou. Because, otherwise, what is she even DOING there, both narratively and physically?
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>>281934657
It's not that hard.
Upcoming matchups guaranteed
>Stark v Wolf
>Fern v Gazelle
>Serie v Lowe
>Sein v Kreis
Not foreshadowed but probably :
>Frieren v Wahlross
>Sense v Clematis
>Falsch v Schritt
Screencap this
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>>281934657
>what is she even DOING there, both narratively and physically?
You must have the reading comprehension of a five year old not to realise by now that Serie's narrative purpose is to act as a foil for Frieren, and for Flamme's ideology which she carries with her
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>>281934657
>Because, otherwise, what is she even DOING there, both narratively and physically?
Vibing.
Chill out and stop overthinking things.
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>>281934623
Actually it does have a direct translation: Funereal Frieren. This was even used by the japs before the official translation came out.
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>>281933612
ok but OPM at least was made by a talented writer (originally) and wasn't just completely carried by the adaptation
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>>281934751
Translating from Japanese is rarely direct, it's often an approximation. There is no way to fully capture the title in English with a word or two
'Sousou no Frieren' is a play on words, you would have to have a short paragraph of accompanying text to explain this in English
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>>281886679
95% that OP is either black or brown.
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>>281887232
cozy
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>>281934798
They meet us halfway and the love is reciprocated.

Guide me through the dark
To lands beyond the stars
Where memories are written in light

Far beyond the earth
Where we will meet again
One last time, I must hold on

Now the stars they leave her in loneliness
More than when her soul reached the sun
I will lift my head from shadow
And gaze across the land
Beyond the journey's end

Won't you tell me the dear story
Of the ones who called me friend
Won't you tell me of the dreams we've had
So we'd dream again

Falling stars will shine
But land somewhere divine
And clouds pass in o'er the sun

Goodness of the earth
And misty light of gods
Cast a light on this dear soul

Long forgotten legend may lead us on
Give us hope where all is lost
I will lift my head from shadow
And gaze across the land
One day with you, my friend
Beyond the journey's end.
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>>281886715
>gayshit
>cuckshit
>no fan service
Why are women like this?
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>>281934842
Because it's cozy, comfy and wholesome. You're too brown to understand.
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>it's Frieren...our journey has fucking ENDED!!™ Opening by Yasobi
What did they mean by this?
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>>281934696
Serie hasn't done a SINGLE thing to foil fuck all of what Frieren wants.
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>>281934864
if being japanese and samurai hearted means enjoying ntr and gay shit then I'm good faggot
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>>281934945
pov: you're a demon infant about to get slain
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>>281909592
Frieren is very beloved on Reddit and MAL, OP would get downvoted to hell there.
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>>281935014
Kek
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>>281934975
Serie doesn't want or need mages that go out on their own collecting folk magic. She needs mages that are unbeatable in the fight against demons and politics. It's why Frieren is absolutely terrible for her organization.
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>>281934975
I clearly meant her character is Frieren's foil in the literary sense
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>>281921008
Runes look too crude for elves.
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>>281935038
Next thing you're gonna tell us is that elf men are supposed to be manly
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>>281935048
I wish I could be as good as Kraft.
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>>281935048
They are in Frieren though?
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>>281934842
Women prefer gay men over straight men because gay men won't rape them and destroy their life.
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K, b, c.
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>>281935080
Kraft is a perfect man. No homo.
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so from my understanding Kraft defeated the demon king a long time ago and saved the world but the demon king keeps respawning
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>>281935088
Because raping little boys is so much better
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>>281935080
Post them.
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>>281935245
Here
>>281934842
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Midren the journey of meh's ene
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>>281935278
Your mom is mid
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>>281935256
I'm guessing he's a particularly manly elf, and the average elf doesn't look like that
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>>281935164
It's like, maybe. Very Phantasy Star. It would highlight that conflict never truly ends, which definitely is the pattern.
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Frieren is life, Frieren is love.
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>>281888329
Women only like NTR when they're the ones getting cucked.
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>>281886984
Stop pimping her Frieren
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I wonder how common it is to see a demon just walking around? Back in Himmel’s time they were all in the army so you’d probably only see them on the frontlines. But without the Demon King wouldn’t they become a more common sight amongst human settlements or do thier horns make them priority targets so they’re usually forced to stay in the wilderness? Still it’s been 8) years since the war so you’d think civilization would have relaxed. Mind you, there could simply be not many demons left because we have no idea what their life cycle is like, only that they grow up in solitude.
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>>281935862
>women only like X when it's about them
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>>281935862
A woman isn’t really getting cucked if her man has sex with another woman on top of having sex with her. She still gets pregnant all the same. Only pathetic moids can get cucked
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>>281935723
t.
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>>281935968
>A cucked woman isn't really cucked
lel
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>>281935194
Gay men prefer big burly bears, only straight men(and women) like shota.
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>>281896975
>>281901297
>>281917611
Ok, samefag.
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>>281886679
Do you not find any of character funny ? How she lives so long and never really gets attached to anyone ?
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>>281938330
ESL brownoid
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>>281938330
Can't have romance in a show because then the audience of virgins feels as though they've been NTR'd
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>>281938441
Dumb triggertard
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>>281938441
Correct. That’s why she didn’t even live with Himmel in his final years as a pretend wife. In “reality” she’d happily get into relationships with people she’s gotten close to as to her their time together would just a blink of the eye. But gender and moral law makes such simple things impossible.
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>>281939568
>>281938441
You completely missed the point. Frieren is a strong wahmen that doesn't need no man
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>>281935080
Frankly, there's something appealing about elf girls being mega feminine, and elf men being mega masculine. If elfs really are just humans +, this is how they should be.
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>>281924904
>real life, people almost never stay and get fully absored by the sculptures. They just go "it's some dude on a horse".
In real life people we make statues of DO NOT go unnoticed,
Especially if they are immortal godlike mages whose power can be felt by any decent mage unless they make painful efforts to hide it.

We can already mock fantasy for having walking Person Of Mass Destruction, without at least important people recognizing them.
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>>281934185
OP is a fag but
>criticism about show I like is troll
>people who dislike it are npc
>stop criticizing stuff I like
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>>281942187
Hello OP
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>>281942994
1st: missed
2nd: you are the one bumping the thread, I'm answering with barely 5 minutes of difference
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>>281942994
lol gottem
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>>281942994
nta but Frieren is highly over hyped to it's detriment.
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>>281927179
Erotic? No, that would be Flamme.
Cutest? Most definitelly
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>>281934657
>It’s dangerous to try and predict the narrative direction of the plot because of how bad it is,
>proceeds to spew nonsense
I love how people criticize others but the moment you put them on the spot you realise they're in no position to criticize anything.
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>>281935001
>reddit reddit reddit
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>>281946785
>my sleepy wifes show is nowhere to be seen
damn /a/ has shit taste
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>>281946785
>one punch man
>onimai in second spot
Reddit anime of the year
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>>281946785
The worse the year, the worse the /a/ taste.
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>Demons evolved to mimic people as predators
>Except everyone immediately recognizes demons when they see them
>Demons can't understand human emotions and empathy
>Yet their entire modus operandi is manipulating people's emotions and empathy
>The demons only use language to hunt and to deceive people
>This is said to us by a demon, with language, stating something they believe is true
>They are purely instinct driven predators
>Macht and other demons are shown creating art
>Demons don't have morals
>Yet they think hiding mana is wrong and other demons dying is wrong

I hate how if you point out any of this, you're strawmannned as someone who dislikes evil races.
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>>281947135
100
it's like dealing with snk fighting game fags
or MARKS as i like to call them
make a genuine critique and they overreach to defend something and get personal about it
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Frieren is fantasy told from the mindset of a miserable salary worker, which makes sense considering that for a so-called "high fantasy", Frieren has a distinct lack of mystique or enchantment in either its setting or characters.
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>>281947135
I guess that's valid. We had a story arc not too long ago about a demon wanting to coexist with humans without understanding feelings like guilt or malice. It would seem that because they know how to say the correct things they'd understand these things. But, I propose it isn't because they understand them, it because they understand their utility for demons. An actual human could feel guilt and shame and declare to never do it again and actually not, driven by those feelings, but a demon doesn't have those feelings. Similar to how humans without truly understanding the wind or waves took to the sea and voyaged as Solitair described it.
That or just a little suspension of disbelief because the demons work as a metaphor for the most wicked of people.
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>>281947135
There is a somewhat salient truth underlying the distinction between metaphorical language and what's actually true, but I don't think Frieren actually thought that through.
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>>281948152
I wish you'd like it, but you don't have to. While much of the fantasy is derivative Frieren does have a unique magic system and plenty of unique monsters. The series also has its' own mechanics based loosely on familiar ones.
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>>281940155
This is based.
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>>281949083
>Frieren has a distinct lack of mystique or enchantment
It's not very surprising this flew over your head entirely as soon as you started babbling about magical systems.
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>>281949204
You don't have to like it. I'm just telling you why I like it.
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>>281949520
I don't like Frieren for the same reason I'm not interested in the livelihoods of the papier-mâché cut-outs that occupy Japanese society.
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>>281949589
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>>281949684
Why are you trying to force a banal conversation when there's nothing to talk about between us?
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>>281949725
Why are you trying to pretend you're so much more sophisticated than you are?
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>>281948522
A hero of our time.
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>>281949792
>sophisticated
Not sure what that has to do with anything. I can tell you're getting frustrated though, which is why you're just throwing random words out to see if they stick.
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>>281949877
Checked and keked
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>>281950146
What's an anime with "mystique" and "enchantment" that isn't about "papier-mache cutouts that occupy Japanese society" than? Also, how are you unaware of how smug you come off?
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>>281950546
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>>281947135
You're right, but there are two issues you're not considering.
First, there's a certain type of autistic anime viewer who literally (Literally) cannot understand that characters can be wrong. What I mean is, they don't understand that a character can be incorrect, lying, mistaken, etc. They just don't get it, so if the words are printed, it's true. You'll never convince them of anything else, you'll just get them repeating that the character said so, and not be able to comprehend why you don't just believe them.
Second, it seems that the author just doesn't really get it either. They just didn't actually think the concept through very well, so... You just kind of have to overlook it. The concept of consciousness and emotions is already fraught and complicated; there are people who, to this day, don't believe animals like dogs and cats have emotions. It's not an easy subject matter in the first place, and the author doesn't seem to really grasp the issues at play, so he can't write it well.
It's just bad writing and stupid readers. There's really nothing more to say about it.
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>>281938330
I find the characters fun but what you said doesn't make sense, elves have different concept of attachment given their lifespan.
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>>281950546
>What's an anime with "mystique" and "enchantment" that isn't about "papier-mache cutouts that occupy Japanese society" than?
No subhuman, I am not going to list series I like for you to farm engagement bait with.
>Also, how are you unaware of how smug you come off?
There is nothing inherently wrong with liking isekai or "JRPG fantasy" aka parody fantasy. I dislike Frieren because it barely revels in being shallow derivative fantasy either. There is nothing to this series beyond the point of Frieren being eternally long lived. Even the start of the series which focuses on the "mono no aware" (it doesn't really have anything else to say past this point) theme is handled much better in series like Land of the Lustrous or Somali and the Forest Spirit, especially without falling into the pit of having a core cast of soulless, uninspired characters like the two teens that follow her around.
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>>281938359
Yes, the author of frieren is ESL and brown.
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>>281886715
where's the ntr in frieren?
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>>281953787
Himmel and Frieren got NTR'd by death
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>>281946899
Sleepy Chino
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>>281887547
The dude has emotion. They make sort of a big deal about how mages need to constantly keep themselves under complete control. The slightest distraction or emotional upheaval can fuck you over. Any mage who isn't able to keep their emotions under a tight lid are probably dead.

This is probably the very premise you're actually criticizing. It's not that characters are unable to have emotions. It's that the author deliberately created magical rules that prevent mage characters from being overly expressive. Either you're a perfect monk, or you're dead. If you want to express emotions, you shouldn't be a mage.
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>>281934185
noh
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>>281886679
>there is no fan service
Nothing wrong with this, literal brainrot for romantically deprived consoomers
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there's no point in necrobumping a thread on /a/.
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aw sweet a frieren thread
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>>281886679
Your IQ is too low to understand Frieren.
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>>281886679
you were brave and correct for this op, I dropped frieren and never looked back when it dropped the pretense and became an unironic battle tournament shonenslop
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Honestly i am tired of mc and his nakama screaming when fighting enemies anime.
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>>281886679
holy shit how did this rancid bait get so many replies?
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>>281886679
>guaranteed replies
at least the thread dies eventually
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>>281961884
it became a generic frieren thread
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>>281886679
>Uhmm, I don't like this [insert popular thing] because it is popular.
we get it anon, we get it.
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>>281961913
And all's well in the world.
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>>281886679
Obvious bait

>>281961809
You do realize that OP is troll?
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>>281886679
yes but it serves as a vehicle for my and other people racism and allows us to hate "demons" freely
its like how football(soccer) is based because you can hate entire countries of people so long as you frame it as being related to the football team of that nation.

maybe you just arent racist enough to enjoy kino.
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>>281937248
>>281935968
this
a woman will see her man as being strong and desirable
just as long as its cucking not cheating
cheating they hate
but slowly introducing them to the idea of being a cuck queen they usually love.
i roleplayed that i cheated on my girl when we were fucking one time and she fucking hated me for a month
then i slowly introduced RP of her watching as i fucked another woman "for her" and she loved it
its probably because everyone like dominating and controlling women even women, so when a woman can control/dominate a woman through her man they can sort of get off on that feeling which they havent really had before
some women feel this when they are the leader or "queen" or whatever of a group of women but a womans type of control of another woman is totally different than the male control of a woman
this is also why strap on dildos or penis shaped dildos are so popular with women(and pegging men to a certain extent) is popular with lesbians because a lesbian fucking another woman in a "womanly way" doesnt invoke the same feeling that a man fucking a woman does, so if one of the lesbians can "became a man" or "fuck like a man" that gives them a totally different(better) experience.
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>>281886679
didn't read, have a lol
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>>281886679
dumb OP
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>>281946785
>wins in a year devoid of shonenshit and with onimai and tengoku in 2nd and 3rd place
The majority of the votes are from casuals and newfags that do not care.
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>>281886679
Smart OP
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>>281886679
>They want to get stronger
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>>281937344
If they like shota they're not straight, you fucking idiot.
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>>281966481
It's about dominating something, that's why they consider that of you top it's not gay. Now go watch gay magazines, it's all about huge massive muscular men filled with testosterone, as far as small and delicated as possible, because those are for straight guys who like things like traps.
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>>281934945
kino
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>>281966693
Liking cock has nothing to do with dominance.
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>>281965659
read his post he speaks like a retard >>281886679
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>>281968355
But you don't like cock, you like fucking someone's ass



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