Now that the dust has settled, who did it better (or less worse)?I think while both have their pros and cons, ultimately they are about the same.
I think that both girls were deeply flawed (non-virgins/damages goods)
Why did the retarded taco alien stop using his save slot gadget? Forced retardation/idiot plot. Just reload when the hoes start fighting.
I was hoping for a plot twist that the aliens kill everyone on earth, like in DeDeDeDe
the mesugaki in NTRased hasn't suffered nearly as much as Shizuka (Shizuka means quiet in Japanese btw)
>>281890924By me
>>281890173Those two shows are nothing alike
>>281893992>reverting time to save slutty girlNTA but I see a resemblance
>>281892930He had a low attention span
>>281890173As bad as Takopii was, it's not even close to a fucking piece of dogshit like Erased.
>>281890173Takopi was better because it ended in yuri instead of NTR.
>>281894471I doubt it, they would both have to sell their bodies to men to provide for themselves
>>281894138That's Dedededestruction
>>281894865Nah, it didn't have as much focus on destruction and "o my poor aliens"
>>281894388Erased was easily at least a 9/10 anime until the 9th episode
I'll decide later, still waiting to see if Takopi can produce enough material to compete with NTRased, if you catch my drift
>>281895086What sort of handshake is this
>>281894853Azuma will get a good job and provide for both of them.
>>281895214Azuma Junya
>>281895534Fuck I thought Azuma was his first name, I already saved all my hentai pictures with "Azuma" instead of Naoki.
>>281895534Lets be real, Junya is way out of their league.
>>281890173Both of these needed a BBG - Big Bold Gaijin who would save them from the Japanese culture of shame, which makes it shameful to help bullied girls. The grass eating Satoru and octopus didn't have what it takes.
>>281895717Ummm they're like 9?
I thought she wanted to cut open the two girls to find her dog? Did she grow a conscience after kidnapping them?
>>281896458Japan has a child protection authority you know. Even domestic arguments like with Marin are actionable under their system. Literally all it would take one teacher to pick up the phone or even just give the hotline to one of the kids and the entire premise of this misery porn fantasy ends immediately.
takopi is bad. characters with zero depth, zero real growth, and solely guided by trauma response. literally nothing to be gained watching this other than seeing the interesting production.erased is also very, very bad by the end, but at least has a few very realistic scenes of abuse and neglect.
>>281896490That joke doesn't work in the context of this conversation.
Do you trust her?
>>281896691The fucking ending on the hospital rooftop is just baffling. That alone makes Erased worse.
>>281896635yes, but you don't understand the thousand times folded Japanese culture of shame, even in real life the teacher would never do something like thisI am an expert on Japan because I read about it on the internet!!!
>>281896718I don't get it, why did she make this face in the alternate universe? She didn't die here, so why did she want to have revenge on Marina
>>281896576>I thought she wanted to cut open the two girls to find her dog?She did but pink Doraemon didn't have a tool for that so instead she bashed his skull in and we never saw her after that?>Did she grow a conscience after kidnapping them?No way she could've gotten past the door without her alien friend. I reckon she got caught by the police and put in juvie
>>281896830I think she's just a whore in that timeline? And the guy was an easy mark.
>>281890924Do we have any piece of evidence that Kayo ever had sex with men other than that ugly ass NTRkid-fuck? I refused to read the manga because the author was a degenerate although the manga did at least explain that Kayo and everyone else stopped visiting the MC in hospital because his mother abducted him from there without telling anyone where they're going, basically so that other men could enjoy Kayo and she wouldn't be saving herself for her son. Literally cuck-by-proxy-of-mother.
>>281896830Because everything more or less happened the same way as in episode 1, except Shizuka failed to commit suicide because she didn't have the ribbon that Takopi gave her.So Marina still caused the death of her dog and bullied her to the point of considering suicide
>>281896917She's a whore in every timeline.
>>281896878But I remember they mentioned 2 girls kidnapped in Tokyo. So she did kidnap them.
>>281896490Pretty sure 4th graders are 10
>>281893193I actually like this manga, aside from the rushed very end. It’s like the only Asano manga I like haha
>>281897015Out of 10!
>>281896998When was that? I just checked the last three episodes and I can't find it
>>281897332It's stated in those newpapers that appear for about 3 seconds, kek
>>281897163>world gets ruined because of some psycho hoe trying to save an uglier psycho hoeEasily the most retarded plot out of the three
>>281897163I love the pantyshotsShame the adaptation was censorslop
>>281896635>Japan has a child protection authority you knowWhy does it not have a dog protection authority thoughWe don't put dogs down just for biting people in self defense of their owners down here in Alabama
>>281897364It was kino though.
>The series ranked third in the 2023 edition of Takarajimasha's Kono Manga ga Sugoi! list of best manga for MALE readersThese types of stories appeal exclusively to men. We girls are immune this kind of fake trauma bullshit.
>>281897539Urge to protect.
>>281890173Boku dake ga inai machi is way more original and creative. It was the vision of one author who knew what he was going for from the start (an elaborate NTR twist to mindfuck his audience).Takopi is just uninspired and derivative, obviously ripping parts of Boku dake ga inai machi as well as DDDD. And it was made by 5 people apparently.
>>281897539Male category just means it was published in a Shounen (Takopi was published in Jump+) or a Seinen magazine.
Honestly, I got filtered the most by episode 3. I thought to myself>Brilliant, because of the preservation box, it will be basically a rock solid alibi, for it will completely throw off the time of murder.and the transformation sequence wasn't necessary at all, but if they did it, they should've just make Takopi run away from home and the parents would think it's because of them fighting each other.The stupid kid with glasses doesn't even watch Detective Conan or play Ace Attorney. I am glad his mother never gave him pancakes unironically.
>>281897718AND they could've also put the invisibility fucking flower on Marina's body on top of the preservation box. For fuck's sake. Every gadget in the story was useful except the wings.
>>281897539Anon, The summer Hikaru died literally WON that award you're mentioning in the male category and you can't tell me that most of those who voted for it werent girls
>>281897775That's because Hikaru is the AOTY 2025, women recognize excellence in anime.
>>281897718But, they are kids! That means they can be ultra smart or ultra stupid when the plot needs them to be, or jump between being extreme sadists or crybabys asking where their mommy is. Because being erratic and unpredictable is what kids are all' about, right?
>>281897888Hmm you sound very offended about the unrealistic portrayal of kids in anime... You must be a kid too!
>There was absolutely nothing wrong with Erased before the events leading up to the coma and the coma itself.Change my mind.
>>281898037I think everybody thinks that?
>>281897430Once a dog tastes blood it is likely to kill againWhite people are delusional about their dogsThey are beasts waiting to strike
>>281897840Women don't even recognize excellence in other women or men. You're all retarded as fuck. Thank you for your cervix inventing the chocolate chip cookie.
>>281898037Before the twist it was generic moidbait Isekai. The twist is what uplifted it into the stars, never to be forgotten.
>>281898258t. ranny still LARPing as a hole ITT
>>281890173I rated both 6 out of 10 on my list hehe
>>281890173Aren't the both set on the Pokemon Platinum island? Why are there so many cute girls living with harlot single mothers there? Is it the cold or the remoteness?
>>281896458Bullied Japanese girls would rather continue being bullied forever than live with the embarrassment of getting help from a stinky gaijin weeb-boarIf you lived in Japan, you would quickly learn to never help even adult women, especially when molested by chickens on train
>>281898774*chikan on train
>>281896998>>281897362That's retarded, must have been an anime addition then. How could she kidnap them with no help?
>>281899173Nope, it's in the manga
>>281899173She uses the invisibility thing.
>>281897840>>281897775>>281897539>Men like series where they can fantasize about protecting little girls = bad.>Women like series where they can fantasize about a gay (a homo-sexual) male who wants to fuck The Thing = good.At last, I truly see...
>>281899173It’s the same thing in the manga. Taizan tends to present or hint a lot of plot points as if they were no big deal, when in fact they should be. His other manga was full of these things, one of the many reasons why it sucked.
>>281899514Doesn't it stop working when she kills Takopi with the rock
>>281898700Well, in Pokemon Platinum you also dont have a father and your mother kicks you out of home (parental abandonment + no right to housing) while you are only 10. Perhaps it is a typical Hokkaido tradition.
>>281899574She doesn't kill him. There's no timeline shift after that until Takopi's final sacrifice. Marina's ordeal is just a flashback
>>281898774Don't tread on my dreams cunt. In my rich fantasy world, in the universe where I move to Japan as a shota, Kayo-chan is my waifu whom I rescue from her abusive mother and she falls in love with me and I then easily knock out the killer teacher when he tries to NTR me, through my superior gaijin strength. I had this fantasy for almost 9 years, almost half as long as I had my actual waifu, as in for me, not an alternate universe Japanese citizen me. You see, in my fantasies I lead separate lives, I am sophisticated like that.
>>281890173Wake me up when Takopi produces a canon doujin like this.
Erased was bottom of the barrel trash, are there seriously people trying to defend it now? Even before the horrendous ending it was complete idiotic crap, the murder "mystery" was insulting to anyone with a brain and the characters were retarded, with the obligatory 10 year old genius a million times smarter and more proactive than the supposed protagonist in his 20s ever was.
>>281899934Nobody likes the ending, the murder mystery or the... what 10 year old genius? The kid who could tell that Satoru is pretending to be a kid?
>>281897362>>281899173>>281899528>>281899401Holy Jesus, now I get it. I thought the newspaper in the final episode was talking about Marina and Shizuka. I thought one of the father's new kids was a boy for some reason.....
>>281896830didn't she still lose Chappy which led her to attempt suicide?
>>281900330
I like how Takopi makes you think the blond girl is a slut and a cunt but turns out she's actually trad wife material that was completely justified from the beginning and "the sad girl" really was the actual slut all along. No other anime did this
>>281900736So not only she kidnapped them, but she kept them hidden for a month... How? Where?
>>281896635>thinks the system just magically works perfectlyLmao
>>281900736Stupid anime subs didn't translate all the details, they only gave us the headlines
>>281900736GJM subs translated all of the text
>>281897539>We girls>>281897840>Hikaru is the AOTY 2025, women recognize excellence in animeAhh, I now understand who the audience losing their mind over takopi is now
>>281900925Whoa, I thought fansubbing was dead
>>281900863Just getting a visit by the authorities would absolutely scare a Japanese family straight. It's also a LEGAL REQUIREMENT for teachers, medical staff, etc, to promptly report suspected child abuse, reports are confidential and there is no fault for mistaken reports. It's a serious system. But that would ruin the emotional manipulation porn so calling a phone number even if it's legally required to do so is off the table.
Did he end up with pizza girl who crushed on him in the original timeline?
>>281900997Hopefully not, that was the worst and most unrealistic part before the plot twist.
>>281900925 Well, I'm surprised they expanded the manga newspapers that explained almost nothing. Here it is much more detailed
>>281900964>LEGAL REQUIREMENTIt is also a LEGAL REQUIREMENT to not use your sma-phonu when driving or cycling and yet the Japanese do it all the time.
>>281900925Based 2channers siding with the c-word and insulting the father instead
Remember her? No one dared to stop her from bullying the ugly fat girl until the shogi-god's future wife stepped up and stood up for her and then she got bullied too. And this was written by a Japanese woman! She was just telling it how it was at school, not trying to get male emotions.
>>281900799This but unironically. Whore genes are real, like biological memories. Just like chicks get scared of a shadow of a hawk without ever seeing one, daughters of whores are bound to become whores. Sad that the endgame is never portrayed outside of hentai doujins/anime/vns. Imagine how the Westoids heads would explode of they had their wholesome misery porn that ends with Metamorphosis except the girl has biological prerequisites that justify said change.
>>281901128The problem was allowed to fester because the teacher was trying to ignore it, until she had a public meltdown and another teacher stepped in, then everything was resolved quickly.It was also realistic female bullying involving only ostracization and at most messing with personal effects, stuff that can easily go undetected, not retarded over the top beatings that leave bruises and shit.
>>281900799Tvrke. The real Takopi's original sin was bringing the two girls together, now Shizuka will drag Marina into a world of decadence until she turns into a Whore just like her.
>>281894138The girl from erased isn't a slut though? The protag never went in time to originally save her anyway it was to save his mom by catching the killer she was just a side quest. Also someone saving your life doesn't mean you owe them sex , if an Indian guy saved your life you would not fuck him also why shouldn't she move on? Why wait for someone in a coma that you won't know when they'll wake up ? He game all the kids a second chance at life he'd want them to be happy and live it even it meant it cost him his.
>>281899574She's not strong enough to kill Takopi with a rock. You see her bashing him dozens of times in episode 6 and he's fine.
>>281901646Shizuka is at the very bottom of the show's power level list tier
he was fine even with how rough Marina treats him
>>281899173she had the transformation pallet, happy flower and flappy wings with her
>>281890173Erased was just pure shit with no qualities to it. Takopi has even something as art style that people can remember it by.
I liked the shitstorm Erased caused. But yeah it was forgettable otherwise
>>281890173The one with shota.
>>281905239Both of them?
>>281905470Shota mc.
>>281901514Yo this is the Deca-Dence prequel?
>>281902425This is a metaphor for the evils of magic and technology.
>>281901874Meanwhile, Kayo was ready to kill dozens, given the opportunity.
>>281890173At least the alien anime explained why the time travel worked, in Erased it just happened for no reason and you were supposed to accept it.
Both series were in dire need of innpio
>>281903153>no qualitiesMovie tier animation?
>>281901602kayo-chan is a slut and should have waited
>>281907097She waited though, Satoru's mother took him away without telling anyone anything
>>281907658Based mom
>>281901602It's funny because people like this also think the MC should fuck the pizza girl
>>281897430That's because you live in a backwater state. Up north of a dog bites someone to leave a mark it gets put down. The only believable part of these dog shit
>>281892930Because it broke when he bonked Marina. Stop speedwatching, retard.
>>281890173Takopi is much better because it didn't overstay its welcome.
>>281890173Newfags and secondaries truly deserve nothing
What are you idiots talking about? There wasn't any plot twist in Boku dake ga inai machi
>>281910007This. It was obvious from the start that the killer would wait for the MC for 15 years to wake up and not kill anyone.
for some reason I can't get Mein Kampf out of my head when I see Nueinukf
>>281908956You're the real retard. I literally said>reload when the hoes start fightingso RELOAD instead of commit murder when the hoes start fighting
>>281911172He already reloaded countless times to try stopping Marina from getting the dog taken away
>>281900925>3-4 gigabytes per episodeWhy are they like this... the original has encodings as low as 150 MB with 1080p!!!
>>281902172Why did they have so many blatantly lust provoking images like this in the anime?
>>281911523Bigger number=better. Use FLAC please
>>281896691>takopi is bad. characters with zero depth, zero real growthTakopi the character had character growth, objectively
>>281890173Expert plot editor here. Let's look at it objectively:>Erased- Cut out the "teacher gets away with everything, but then stops murdering for 15 years just because, while he was waiting for his true love to wake up from the coma" plot, and instead just end it with the two of them dying together in the river, in example. I am mentioning that specifically, because the movie chose death too, so it's a verified way to end it all.No additions needed, could easily recut everything into 6 episodes total runtime, or one anime movie. Movie would win Oscar for best animated feature. One simple change and reduction on some scenes.>Takopi's Original Sin- Remove the male brat who is there only as the author's self insert probably. His mom wanted him to be a doctor, but he was too dumb so he became a mangaka instead.- Remove the hiding the body subplot and go straight into the flashback.- Remove all the idiotic unrealistic scenes with Marina's parents that were made to make you feel pity for her somehow, even though all it did was make her parents look comically insane. Instead, the parents fight like normal married pairs with suspicion of cheating, trying to hide it in front of the kid but badly.+ Add some scene that show that the hooker mother has a hooker heart of gold, to give Marina proper motivation for projecting her hatred onto her daughter. Like honestly, how did she even figure out? In the existing unrealistic scenario, I guess during one of their fights, the father just casually knelt down to Marina to explain "by the way daughter, I am fucking [Shizuka's mom], that's why mama is angry with me".+ Instead of killing himself, the octopus reveals his form during the dogfight, and pretends to be an evil alien that's come to destroy them all. The shock will make Marina forget about her pitiful human problems, now knowing that there's an alien race hellbent on their destruction. Basically, learn from the greats (Watchmen).TL;DR - Erased won.
>>281890173They didn't much like dark doraemon with dead demons dedede destruction?Let's do it again but make the kids meaner
>>281912415>in example. I am mentioning that specifically, because the movie chose death too, so it's a verified way to end it all.He dies as a kid?
>>281912415Very smart, intellectual & nihilistic. Erased chads win again.
>>281912415>Remove all the idiotic unrealistic scenes with Marina's parents that were made to make you feel pity for her somehow, even though all it did was make her parents look comically insane.I envy your sheltered life
>>281912553No, as an adult obviously.>>281912786Nice try, but my parents fought and argued all the time, including over cheating. If you think the anime did it realistically, then you're the one who lead a sheltered life.
>>281906883WHat is an "innpio"?
>>281890173takopii is better because it's shorter
>>281912986it doesn't mean anything , but on pixiv it's a codeword for kids FUCKIN each other
>>281890173I just can't stop thinking about having sex with these evil & deservedly bullied women
>>281912909Nah, your parents probably fought,.I absolutely believe you that, but if they're weren't alcoholics too, like mine, then you can't imagine how not unrealistic the stuff Marina experiences in the flashback is. The house was completely trashed more than once and while I simply got away most of the time, my 5y younger sister wasn't so lucky. No there was no murder suicide at the end, but I myself experienced like 60% of the stuff Marina did and my sister probably like 75% from what she told me, which absolutely makes it close enough to be considered "realistic" from my perspective. Shizuka's experience is the far more removed from me, but I certainly knew a few kids living in a trashy environment as her.
>My parents are worse than yoursLmao what the fuck is this playground shit?
>>281913810The point of the discussion is whether the scenario is realistic or not. How the fuck are you going to asses this topic without looking at real life examples, which most often come from own experiences?
>>281913810Kek
>>281897623>Takopi is just uninspired and derivative, obviously ripping parts of Boku dake ga inai machi as well as DDDD. And it was made by 5 people apparently.Not only did Takopi obviouslyrip off those two seriesTHEY EVEN RIPPED OFF THE DOG!<- real Chappi
>>281890173This is the kind of shota MC these girls needed. In Takopi's Original Sin, he would easily save both girls at the same time.
>>281914854Pathetic plagiarism. I hope Tarzan gets sued.
>>281915475Tarzan is living inside a jungle.
>>281890173Tacopy was able to faithfully reproduce the original work because it was restricted to web distribution, which has fewer content restrictions.
Which will you choose?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XWEyyWqvDghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMHJuzTfPn4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ajQuujwKkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7FgdaGOw9s
>>281890173This show was amazing
>>281918876I meant Erased btw
>>281911172Watch it again retard. He was literally about to but realized nothing will change if he keeps staying hidden and watching like a coward so he resolved to gather his courage and take action to protect Shizuka. It's such a major part of Takopi's character arc and you missed it. Seriously, there are so many idiots watching anime who can't comprehend what they're seeing on screen.
>>281919525>He was literally about to but realized nothing will changeSee, this is the problem with actual retards like you. What I was asking was "why didn't he try harder". You read/saw that "he tried everything" - which you were told, not shown - and accepted is as a fact.>rewind time again>dog walking is invisible nowAnd that's just one of thousand possibilities he never tried.
How would you cheer up this brat if you were a legal alien?
>>281919619>character doesn't make a perfectly logical decision therefore badThis is what the state of media analysis has come to. You were asking why Takopi didn't rewind time instead of defending Shizuka in that specific instance and it made perfect sense for him to do so. I'm wasting my time here explaining things to a retard who's wholly incapable of analyzing characters and their motivations.
>>281919818Why should a Doreamon like creature choose violence, which it should be unfamiliar with, before exhausting all of its magic tricks? How did it even know that the human creature's weakness is its head? Why did it not use its invisibility gadget and lick her feet to stop her? He acted the way the plot needed him to act. Idiot plot, but worse, because not only it required him to act dumb he also needed to have meta knowledge.
>>281919791I'd put my hand in my pants and whip out my pepsiShe looks like she'd be into that and I'd give it to her real good
>>281919926>nitpicky nonsenseYou're really grasping at straws here. Deviated so far from your original point reaching for any kind of criticism. Takopi has already seen plenty of violence on Earth, and was even subject to it. He's familiar with how violence works at this point. If you want to discuss the show, watch it again but this time without looking at your phone.
>>281890173both have good daughterwife heroines
>>281920226>so far from your original pointMy original point: [why did he stop using gadget]My point now: [why did he stop using gadget]You are just strawmanning because you cannot handle the fact that you strawmanned me originally when you pretended I didn't know he hit her with the camera. From the beginning, my point was explicitly [use gadget]. I explicitly said [gadget]. I asked why he didn't use the [gadget] and you did angry eyebrows face and said "but I had breakfast today" on behalf of the character.
>>281920255>daughterwifeGenetic memory is a thing. Not only do they have the nature, but also the nurture. They would both be abusive mothers who would beat up your child with them, after you abandon them for a younger child.
>>281920558>My original point: [why did he stop using gadget]Well I hope the explanation finally got through your thick skull
>>281920255She should have been the waifu of the mature kid who actually did help save her too, not the stupid ugly emasculated loser.
>>281919791Nothing, I'm legally not allowed to be around children in America, but it probably applies elsewhere too
>>281914939>lonely girl with no friends and black hair with a missing parent gets bullied by a supposedly Japanese girl who is popular because of her gaijin colored hairThe plagiarism never stops.
>>281890173Top is one of the worst anime of all time.Bottom is one of the best comedies of all time.What's the comparison?
>>281919791If it was the real me, I would do nothing, just like every other poster ITT. All of us are cowards.
>>281920804Well, you've always been a kidder, Steve.
>>281920814Sad but true
>>281920608having her get with the other guy the MC saved makes the kid a sort of physical representation of what he did
>>281920864Half the genes are enough. The other kids shouldn't even needed to be rescued in the first place. They are there just for the count.
>>281920255>super short miniskirt>very fashionable>hair done nice>kept in sexy shapeYeah I'm thinking Kayo's mom invested into her for a reason, if you catch my drift.
>>281921029Her mom's boyfriend for sure fucked her.
Picked up Hikanatsu because >>281897539 >>281897775 claimed it was better than Takopi. It literally is just thinly veiled anime about a closeted gay who thinks "a corpse is fine too". The "horror" is just an excuse for more gayness, like Twilight with gay men.
>>281921184I didnt say it was better tho, I just said it won the random japanese contest Takopi couldnt win
>>281921184If the animated corpse was of a dead abused loli, male viewers would be all over that. Hikari-chan ga Shinda Natsu
>>281920783The Japanese resent foreigners for having ginpatsu hair (golden brat hair, I'm a bit of a Japanese expert), so if there's a school setting where a bratty female child bullies, naturally she has the lightest hair possible, all the way up to yellow.
>>281921346>ginpatsuUmm, bro? Gin means silver?
>>281921345Yes that sounds much better.
>>281890924Shizuka was still a virgin in the future timeline, she just had a simp
>>281896830She got bullied for years and attempted suicide>>281896718Getting her boyfriend was her way to get revenge on Marina. Typical NTR revenge
>>281921346>they resent foreigners, that’s why evil brats have blonde hair >She ends up being best girl of the show anyway.
Objectively speaking, which would make a better gf to azuma-kun? marina or Shizuka?
>>281921725One would definitely cheat on him or dump him once he starts overstaying his welcome. The other would maybe work for a while until she starts to suspect for 0 reason that he is cheating on her, becoming more schizo and abusive and resulting in her eventually ending up being cheated on for real.
>>281922210That these tragic developments not only feel possible, but almost inevitable in every timeline besides the one, where Takopi sacrificed himself, is, from my perspective at least, a testament to the strength of the character writing. Shizuka absolutely grows up to be a self-centered manipulator after surviving her suicide attempt. The Marina-death-timeline shows that clearly. And Marina unconsciously developing to be like her mom if left to herself is one of the central conclusions of the flashback.
>>281921465>he didn't read the LNAnon, I...
>>281921516>Getting her boyfriend was her way to get revenge on Marina. Typical NTR revengeThe way it was portrayed in the anime was retarded. It's as if she read the script. Why would she try to attract a loser nerd who will never be a doctor just to get back at Marina? Sure it is a bit of revenge but she didn't know that her mother would have a mental breakdown over the fact that her daughter isn't getting fucked. She should've at least asked him to do something mean to her.
>>281921725>Objectively speaking, which would make a better gf to azuma-kun?Better question, which would make even a tolerable gf for anyone?
>>281923239Marina if she got sent to juvie
>>281923239There is definitely a public that thinks that arguing all day with your girlfriend is part of the fun of a relationship.
>>281896933>ugly ass NTRkid-fuck?he wasn't ugly retard
>>281923239Shizuka would make a great girlfriend, for me, after I save her from her predicament by teaching her about Jesus. I would then teach Marina about Jesus too so she learns to stop her Satanic ways. I would then also come to their homes and tell their parents about Jesus.
>>281923464t. kid with long hair and round face
None of you losers would save anyone, and you wouldn't even try if they weren't good looking. Typical make hypocrisy
>>281923544Indeed, it would be in fact Jesus that saves all.
>>281923544There’s no hypocrisy
>>281899855Has Takopi ever learned what sex is or did he die a virgin
>>281923239They're both terrible, you're supposed to be a man going his own way, like Azuma
>>281921725Shizuka one ever cared about him to manipulate him and get back at Marina, she'd ruin his life As long as he stayed away from her mother, Marina is clearly the better choice as she's only problematic to Shizuka, and she was getting better with him, he was unironically fixing her.
>>281922936>why would stealing your bully's boyfriend be revenge?do anons really?
Why did Shizuka never use her harlot body to manipulate Azuma before the murder/before the suicide? Did witnessing a murder/roping unlock her natural experience?
>>281924467She was so blackpilled with life that she thought that no matter what, life would never get better. Takopi killing Marina mindbreaked her to the point of giving her hope, so she started to think "well, maybe life can get better and I have to make an effort”
>>281924251>I will steal my former bully's boyfriend, she will for sure not start bullying me again, beat me up and so forth. The loser kid with glasses who never protected me will for sure protect me this time.Still slightly less retarded than>I will get myself bitten on purpose so the dog gets taken away.The former requires reading the script, the latter takes insane resilience for a child. Maybe if it was a small dog but Chappi-sized? Any kid would shit itself and not even approach within 5 feet of Shizuka. I guess she read the script too a knew the dog would do a nice symbolic bite only.Erased has no 4D chess plans like this. Other than the killer teacher's insane behavior after he failed to kill the MC, everyone behaved rationally. No convoluted plotting that relies on knowledge they don't have.
>>281925174The pizza girl was a plot device and helped a criminal because he was nice to her once
How did Marina become a name in Japan? I get that they can spell it but it's obviously from Europe for sure That and the natural blonde hair lead me to believe Marina's mother cheated firstI rest my case
>>281925526Well her family last name is Kirarazaka, so her parents may have thought that giving her a Kira kira name was appropriate.
I'd fry the octopus and eat it. Nothing personnel, it just looks delicious.
>>281926240Calm down Azuma
>>281923544If there was a big shiny 'Save' button I'd press it, but it ain't that easy in real life. Anyway this is to do with anime and all cute anime girls deserve to be saved.
>>281925526Brother, there are japanese people who unironically named their kids Pikachu and CharizardMarina isn't that out there
>>281927750>no scarWay to ruin a 10/10 design
Did Shizuka really kidnap her half sisters and try to cut them up?
>>281927026Uh, Rizaadon is perfectly Japanese, they even have to translate it. So is Pikachu, they couldn't even translate it so they gave up.
>>281930139Yeah but neither is a real name They're literally naming their kids after anime rats
>>281930139Rizz for real??
>>281890173Does the bottom also has cuck ending too?
>>281930658The guy realizes that it's better not to relate to either of the two girls and he leaves the ship on his own. Although, technically, someone got cucked in another timeline
>>281929914According to >>281900925, she kidnapped them and kept them somewhere for months but didn't cut them up for some reason
>>281907658Too bad Kayo's reputation is forever ruined by the anime omitting that fact.
>>281928044I thought she's supposed to be in her mesugaki correction needed form.
>>281930139>>281927026These names are illegal since 2025
>>281927004You have to dial a telephone number in real life, something you'd also be legally required to do in Japan if you were a teacher. Every day you fail to pick up the phone is one more day that can be used against you in court, nevermind the social collapse. In fact it would be nothing short of self-destruction not to call the number provided explicitly to deal with saving kids. Just how committed are you to the misery porn bit?
>>281932844Misery-porn-kun, I want to ask you something. Do you make the Takopi threads yourself, so you can lash out about the show?
>>281932844It's funny because in Erased they dial the telephone number multiple times but it doesn't help one bit because the mother carefully navigates around social services, so they never caught her.
>>281932844Every experienced Japanese expat boomer would tell you that Japanese society would never do anything about the kind of innocent bullying portrayed in either anime. If I remember correctly, they only got involved once the parent/child got missing respectively. Japan... is a culture of SHAME.
>>281930295>They're literally naming their kids after anime ratsBased Japanese rebel parents rebelling against Japanese culture of shame.
>>281920783>>281914939Does this manga deliver on the innpio side?
She reminds me of a Western cartoon (one of those Korean drawn ones) character but I can't remember who. I think it had blacks.
>>281934217>I think it had blacks.Marina would enjoy!
It's the father's fault in both cases but they get away with it.
>>281890173Bottom has a yuri ending so it's automatically superior
>>281935326Sorry buddy, but you're wrong. My wife Marina is straight, she only wants high test men like me. The other girl fucks dogs and fucks men for money.
>>281934217>hates parasites>hates welfare queensMarina is the only Randian waifu material in all of anime.
>>281934063If that were a city, Shizuka would have been taken into protective custody immediately.
>>281934217Riley's girl in the Boondocks?
>>281901646>you're supposed to sympathize with flashback/2022 Marina even though she literally still killed Chappy here and caused Shizuka to hang herself, so it's the very same Marina as the one who got her head smashed in the first two episodes>b-but she has a scar because her dad threw a funko pop at herHmmmmmm, really gets your noggin smashin
>>281934217Many of her traits, design and personality remind me vaguely of several cartoon/live action mean girls, but at the same time I don't remember one that is too close.
So is the dawg dead in the post-Takopi-Died-For-Our-Sins timeline or no?
>>281936560Yes. That's exactly the intended message after showing that she too is at the receiving end of all the shit happens. Just one layer above Shizuka. It's a horrible situation for everyone and there has to be a better way.>>281936632He isn't shown, but since the timeline reverts back to day 3 and the effects of his influence are there immediately Chappy probably didn't get put down on day 7
>>281935974Nah, apathy is even bigger in big cities
>>281936632Yes they show him for a second in the post credits scene
>>281890173Erased reactions from different groups:>/a/ chuds:"Cheating bitch! She netorared him!">contrarian redditors on /a/:"She doesn't owe him sex, it is a good thing they never got together because it would be heckin problematic, and it's poetic because blah blah">Me:Both sides are wrong and I am right. She did *not* netorare the MC because she wanted to wait for him even in the flawed manga. But it is *not* wrong to expect her to reward him with sex because female brains are wired to react like this to men who save them, as long as they're not fuck ugly. The "poetry" is forced and predicated on characters acting retarded all over. But despite all that, Erased the anime is the perfect example of a flawed diamond. The good parts are "peak" and the bad parts are easily identified and can be compartmentalized if you're an *N** type, instead of an NPC (*S** type). Meanwhile, the bottom anime is "mid" with nothing but recency bias. Erased will be still discussed 10 years later, the other will be forgotten next year.Erased wins./thread
>>281940893But wasn't her mother supposed to abandon her anyway or something? She said that some guy went to her home and asked her if she's all alone and then there were dire consequences.
>>281894865>>281897163Dedede is by far the worst of them all. Its writing quality ceiling is Boku dake's floor.
>>281896691Kids don't have character growth, they just kids
>>281940893Huh, must have missed him there
>>281940893So Shizuka won, while Marina is worse off than in the original Takotimeline
>>281943697In the original timeline she murders her mom after years of co-dependent abuse, which probably destroys any hope of a good future for her.
>>281944457>murderskills. it was self defence
>>281944457Nothing really ensures that it won't happen again, her mother is a time bomb who just needs a bad day to go full schizo and try to kill her daughter again.
>>281944457If the author had any balls, he would've also added a scene where, due of the Forced Friendship[tm] between his daughter and his ho's daughter he divorced his wife, and decided to marry the ho. Thereby solving everyone's problems.Or just go all out on the "everything is resolved with magic" ending and because the parents' find out about the kids friendship they all magically become normal.
>>281939274Are you Japanese? Or a permanent resident immigrant?What you're saying is half right and half wrong.In rural areas, people live close together, so they deliberately turn a blind eye to trouble.Conversely, in cities, it's difficult to identify individuals, so hypocrites can easily make anonymous reports.
Does Takopi end with the author inserting their NTR fetish as well?
>>281945825Only partially so, the MC erased himself so he never scored, but we don't see in the outro if any of the girls he died got dicked. Although with one it's quite obvious she's gonna get dicked by many.
>>281890173Tako girl gives me N.H.K. World's Misaki vibes
>>281946529He died so that I could make Shizuka happy [in my dreams]
Serious question: is Shizuka meant to be a psychopath? She never shows empathy to anyone, she is very cold with Azuma and Takopi and manipulates people easily as fuck, plus her thought process jumps straight to killing and kidnapping too quicklyDoes she have ASPD?
>>281948061Objectively no, you cannot diagnose a child with ASPD. At best you can see some early signs but considering the child's situation, especially witnessing a murder right after the loss of her dog, it doesn't really seem plausible. Especially if >>281926655 this is a semi canonical portrayal of her thought process. Or the lack of a thought process.
>>281948061She was only ten years old, so it's difficult to determine if she was a psychopath.Judging by the words she lamented in the final episode, it doesn't seem like she was that severely affected.
>>281941576ErasedCHADS stay winning
If the erased dude ended up with the girl it would basically be a grooming story and very problematic
>>281950219That's okay, I self insert as a shotachad who rescues Kayo and then gets innpio as a reward.
>>281908842Yes, good taste it's tied to common sense.
>>281921377Is also done to death. (heh)
>>281948061Not inherently, it was just a case of bad environment and the events of the story that made her use manipulation and abuse to further her own goals and regain the one thing in her life that made her feel her life was worth living. Seeing the cause of most of her problems go away because of the murder wasn't good for her social development which had already been stunted due to her depressing home life, bullying, and loss of her only comfort. We saw that she mellowed out in the penultimate timeline when she settled for crying alongside Takopi who acted as her new support until the final reset that makes Marina and Shizuka become each other's crutches. They're both still fucked up because of their home lives but they end up making it through the worst of it.
>>281899526At one point you must realize that The summer Hikaru Died its just Elfen Lied for women.
>>281950366Called it. Midwit confirmed
Realistically speaking, none of y'all groomers would be able to handle any of these girls as your girlfriends. Even if you retained your groomer memories like the Erased MC, you still wouldn't be to rizz up the female child of your choice. Also children are actually annoying and stupid.
>>281950428Name 1 anime about a dead female child resurrected by raw chicken meat living inside it.
>>281951052That's why this is the most important thing to keep in mind if you ever get native isekai'd into a younger (You) and get to relive your elementary/high school life with all your adult knowledge. Surely your moms had acetone and bleach at home.
If I time travelled into my past self, I would do everything the same until college, then I'd buy up all the cheap bitcoins
So why didn't he just tie them together with the ribbon when they were fighting?
>>281950922That's ok, rape is fine too
>>281944674I'm not a Japanese shame culture expert, but if her small scars are enough for some bad reactions and the Azuma family got business destroying flak for merely having a kid involved at all, then you can be sure, that Marina's further social standing would be absolutely devastated even if her claim for self defence would go through (this is not 100% sure). But let's not the most important aspect. It's murder/killing SUICIDE. There's no more Marina in the base timeline and if you're not an anti-natalist then pretty much any different path would be objectively better.>>281944771While this is a true statement the spirit of the ending does not imply in any way, that she's as bad off as in the base timeline (even though she still has her scar iirc, which absolutely is a bad sign). But I'd like to imagine that Marina stood up for herself after that incident and that at least the absolute worst parts of her mother are now under some control. Or maybe she really got out of there and moved to her father.>>281945488It's not like I don't like your ideas, but I find the ending absolutely fine, since it gets the most important point across: They both found their place in life for now together(!) instead of being an isolated playball for the negative emotions of others.
I expected Marina's mom to try to redpill Marina on covid
>>281951236That's very specific, but most vampire stories count, like Happiness or Shiki. But I think you're talking of something closer to Sankarea.
Why did the octopus imagine a Produce Stand when he heard the hoemom was an escort? Japanese only joke?
>>281948061I doubt it, the thing with Shizuka is that we deliberately almost never know what she’s thinking, unlike all the rest of the characters, that's why she sometimes it looks as if she was a psycho. Narratively it is probably so that the climax where she explodes, cries and tells all her sorrows to Takopi has more weight, logically it is because she never had anyone who gave a shit about her emotions, so over time she began to hide them.She is not amoral, but she is prone to extreme decisions. She kidnaps her sisters and threatens to kill them but in the end she repents and frees them, she tries to kill Takopi but in the end she only leaves him unconscious, she manipulates Azuma by telling him to turn himself in but at the end of episode 4 when she says that now he will no longer be there to defend her she remembers for a few seconds the good moments the 3 of them spent together, implying that there are some regrets
>>281953238She is a through and through damaged character. It's totally understandable that a normal person can't really decipher what's going on in her mind.
>>281953659No she isn't, the bullying she got in the endgame is nothing and even in the part where she saw Takopi killing an innocent child, she could still recover.t. Chud who got proper male on male bullying in elementary school, but also one of the girls in 4th or 5th grade was bullied by single father along with her sister (and no one ever did anything) until he hanged himself in front of them.Sounds tragic but nowadays she leads a completely normal life, probably recovered by high school no problemo.
>>281951052>t.
>>281953659>>281953825Poor Black children in America get through way worse when selling dope n coke. And social services are even worse for them. I am an expert on this topic, because I watched The Wire.All the Japanese misery porn children have it way better.
>>281944674it was perpetrated by an illegal aliens, the Japanese Ace Attorney system would give him a death sentence in under 3 days
>>281951334He tried and got physical abuse, then PTSD made him wary of that approach before the situation escalated. He succeeded in the end, but the ribbon is now a metaphysical one that bonds them over an inexplicable feeling of warmth and sadness at what they'd been through and what the final resolution had cost.
>>281954381Pretty good summary, anon
>>281911172He didn't think the bonk would kill her and break his camera.
>>281952991Do you live under a rock lol, yes japanese joke, they love their octopussies and tentacles. It shows up in some other series too occasionally.
