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>Gundam fans when you point out that every single series would play out exactly the same if you removed the mobile suits
>"B-BUT IT'S COOL THO!"
Uh huh. Giant robots are stupid and pointless.
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You're mentally ill
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Gundam fans don't argue that, except of UC-only retards who hate Tomino.
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>>281936188
Me on the left.
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>>281936195
You're a brainwashed paypig.

>>281936229
Yes they do. Gundam fans are in hard denial that the thing they like is fucking retarded. They've spent too much time and money on their shitty toys to not take it extremely seriously.
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>>281936188
TRVKE
>history... le repeats itself!
>war is... le bad!
rehashed 49 times
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>>281936273
She's Indian, and because this is 4chan, you're not allowed to like her.
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the point of giant robots is to look fucking cool
this is why CGI killed the genre
any modern gundam that uses 3d models is indeed pointless
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>>281936612
>ostensibly trying to tell a serious story about how war is bad
>wave toy robots in the audience's face
There's nothing cool about giant robots, because physics doesn't work that way, dumbass.
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>>281936727
Sorry bro minovksy particles UNDOES the square cubed law and makes it so that giant robots are 300% possible
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>>281936752
Minovsky particles aren't real. They are an outright admission that the premise is complete bullshit.
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>>281936860
???
Yeah they are, Amuro Ray must have mentioned them a dozen times
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>>281936188
ok
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>>281936727
>only things possible in reality are cool
>>281936195
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>>281936188
Is 0079 yuri? no. Witch from Mercury is. Therefore your argument is invalid. Checkmate, loser.
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>>281936875
Kill yourself, you will never be funny.
>in before the painfully predictable "you will never be a woman"
You will NEVER be funny. Minovsky particles are made up garbage that were contrived to justify an inherently shit premise. This is supposed to be -science- fiction. Fuck you.
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>>281936945
yeah and they use the science of minovsky particles to invert the square cubed law. You're pretty slow huh?
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>>281936188
Anyone else noticed how G-troons have been crashing out ever since bandai moved on from their yuribait series with threads like these and gave us hetchads a true gundam series we can enjoy?
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>>281936963
There's nothing scientific about Minovsky particles, because they do not exist in real life, you actual retard.
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>>281936944
Left up to interpretation, guel won btw.
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>>281937002
Are you stupid? The characters talk about them all the time. They're a new particle created by the Minovsky fusion reactors.
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>>281936944
I ship Sayla and Matilda
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>>281936989
Well for sure we have a lot more schizos like you being enabled in shitposting, so I take that as rather negative value of having heterosexual Gundam lead series again as main theme.
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>>281937023
Minovsky particles are not real. It doesn't matter if the characters talk about them a lot. IN THE REAL WORLD, they do not exist. This bit you're doing isn't funny either, by the way. Kill yourself.
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remember this thread next time you see one of them claim they're true gundam fans
they would rather have a gundam without mechs than a gundam without freaks
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>>281936727
>look the point is to ignore unrealistic parts if that makes the visuals sweet
>NO IT HAS TO BE SCIENTIFIC OTHERWISE IT'S RUBBISH
at some point you have to yourself ask why you're watching it if you're unwilling to accept the base premise
it's like reading Tolkien and sperging that elves don't exist
which, well done for spotting it, but letting it slide is a prerequisite for enjoying the work

also I'm not getting pulled into arguing in favour of "mecha is scientific" strawman, fuck your bait
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>>281937050
are you really going to pretend that minovsky particles aren't real? Like even for a gundam secondary that's pretty clueless.
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>>281937064
Who the fuck is "they"? Normal, sane people who have a basic understanding of physics? Giant robots are fucking dumb and literally cannot exist in the real world. Heaven fucking forbid something calling itself science fiction actually be scientific for once.
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>>281937050
yeah, everyone knows that you're only allowed to have magic FTL
everything else means it's not science-fiction and therefore shit
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>>281936188
the main appeal of gundam is the world building and character dynamics, not the themes
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>>281937099
they can exist because the minvosky particles negate the square cubed law
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>>281937068
hard scifi vs soft scifi
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>>281937068
>"I'm a stupid child who just wants keys jangled in my face!"
That was already blatantly obvious, you didn't need to say it. As to your pitiful argument, fantasy outright labels itself as fake garbage. Science fiction is ostensibly meant to incorporate actual science into its story. And if it isn't, then it shouldn't have the word 'science' in it, because words mean things.
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>>281937168
It incorporates the field of minovsky physics into its story. Please watch the anime before commenting on it!!
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Gundam is a franchise for autistic kids, faggots, retards and normalfags.
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>>281937143
>soft sci fi
Oh fuck off and die with that disingenuous bullshit. Either something is scientific or it's not. There is no in-between. The laws of physics do not operate on a goddamn gradient.
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>>281937187
Macross is a japanese rip off of top gun.
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>>281936989
It's drool bringing his shitposting to /a/, probably got banned off /m/ again.
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All Gundam series dont have quattro anon
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>it's another secondary exposes himself as a retard because he got roped into the series by bandai's latest attempt to bring in the normgroid audience
You secondary retards are not welcome, gundam is not for you and we don't want you. Stay out and go back to watching whatever seasonal slop it is you usually watch.
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>>281937285
I've been a Gundam fan since I was ten. Giant robots are fucking retarded. Fuck you.
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>>281937330
Sure but removing the suits doesn't change the fact that the series are not the same
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>>281937330
Keep crying, go and stay gone.
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>>281937195
>my definition of the genre is more correct despite excluding 90% of works popularly classified into it
more power to you if you've constructed a personal scientifically rigorous nomenclature for fiction, your world must be very ordered
but the rest of us have to operate on some kind of shared understanding and, like you've correctly observed, words have agreed upon meanings
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>>281937377
Yes they are.
>war bad
>older generations bad
>racism bad
>Tomino is weird about women
>there's always some stupid jobber the fanbase latches on to
>Char clones(invariably plural now)
>magic pixie dust bullshit
It's all the goddamn same shit.
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>>281937401
That just means 90% of the genre is fucking garbage, and the subhuman tards who consume it have no standards.
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>>281937454
>I just want to be angry
see, if you just said that at the beginning, we could have spared ourselves this whole attempting a reasonable discussion bit
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>hurr durr mecha is bad and it's all the same!
Spoken like a true retard who's never bothered to watch anything other than entry level shit. Watch more anime or kys.
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>>281937511
I like how you're actively proving me right. Gundam fans just can't accept that Gundam is dumb. You get the vapors whenever anyone points it out.

>>281937522
Yes, it is. Giant robots are fucking stupid.
>entry level shit
Says the cunt who's posting Getterslop.
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>>281936965
Tomino is an auteur and I'm tired of pretending he isn't.
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Whatever happened to the modern age of Gundam right now?
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>>281937653
>"modern"
>implying Gundam hasn't always been desperately rehashing itself
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>>281936188
Something without arms wouldn't have been able to pull out the reentry film from a pocket and Amuro would have died on reentry
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>>281937195
>Either something is scientific or it's not
If you're trying to be that strict about it, there are no scientific stories at all. All "hard sci-fi" stories suffer from the same problems of attempting to be accurate to the theories at the time, only to be outdated or proven wrong by the time they are published. At that point they are just glorified autistic instruction manuals for a fantasy machine.
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>the most boring bait ever imaginable
>still gets replies
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>>281939094
if you want to get technical about it, then there's a difference between "scientific" and "factual"
scientific is a way of thinking and that cannot become outdated, even if the theories prove to be false due to new facts
which ironically means stuff like FTL can be scientific if done well, because you cannot prove a negative
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I don't care about any of this shit, just post more of the fat one
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>>281939094
>>281939421
OR, you could just make a story that actually respect the laws of physics instead of making up excuses to be ignorant retards.
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Follow this order,

For One Year War
Mobile Suit Gundam (43 Episodes) --> Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt (8 Episodes) --> 08th MS Team (12 Episodes) --> War in the Pocket (6 Episodes) --> Stardust Memories (13 Episodes)

AND THEN

For Newtype Shenanigans
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (50 Episodes) --> Mobile Suit ZZ Gundam (50 Episodes) --> Char's Counterattack (Movie) ---> Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn (7 Episodes) --> Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway (Movie)

AND THEN

For Cock and Ball Torture
Mobile Suit Gundam F91 (Movie) --> Mobile Suit Victory Gundam (51)

S tier: War in the Pocket, Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
A tier: Mobile Suit Gundam, 08th MS Team, Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn
B tier: Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt, Char's Counterattack
C tier: Mobile Suit ZZ Gundam, Stardust Memories, Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway
D tier: Mobile Suit Victory Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam F91
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>>281937330
>I've been a Gundam fan since I was ten
And you're twelve now.
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>>281941500
Thunderbolt is AU bullshit that people like only because of the jazz music.
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>>281941627
Thunderbolt is FUN anon. It's better than anything below it. It's not ranked higher because they ended it on sequel bait and did not adopt the manga.
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>>281941500
>Newtype Shenanigans
Speaking of things Gundam fans don't want to just admit is fucking stupid.
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>>281936727
>Literally shows that without war the Federation would get away stealing the Earth from humanity
>war bad
?
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>>281941975
>Speaking of things Gundam fans don't want to just admit is fucking stupid.
I don't understand. Am I in the wrong here?
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>>281941979
>muh both sides are bad!
Gundam really is fucking pathetic.

>>281942021
You're wrong for liking this garbage, yes.
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>>281943115
Only one side is bad. Sorry the show didn't hold your hand enough for you to notice.
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>>281943115
I'm sorry dude. I like Tomino's works. Even if he fucks up, makes weird decisions, I find as if the series is a lot of fun to get into. Have you tried any series?

>>281943288
I take the,
>No sides are bad but WAR is bad
Approach.
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>>281941500
>zeta gundam that high
>unicorn that high
>char's counterattack not in D tier
>stardust memory that low
>no MS IGLOO and not in A tier
retard alert
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>>281945192
Stardust Memories has some of the poorest writing in the entire franchise.
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>>281945216
Can't even say that anymore with how bad GQuacks was
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>>281945585
I have not watched anything outside of the UC Timeline other than Thunderbolt. I do trust you on that. Gquuuuuux is the most obvious fucking cashgrab this series has ever undergone. The sad part? It worked.
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And how exactly would they fight in space without the robots? Remember whatever your answer is has to be able to...
- Use firearms and melee weapons
- Fly
- Hide the identity of the soldier
- Carry more than one thing
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>>281945777
Watch the show.



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