Kazekage Rescue MissionChapter 251: To the Sand...!!Previous chapter: >>281896838 chapter 249-250Start: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.desu.meta/subject/Daily%20Naruto%20Chapter/filter/text/page/7/Believe it!Thanks for joining and reading.
>>281949121Holy fucking jobbing. I hate Kishimoto
kankuro is so cool
>>281949121Kankuro just had to run into the perfect counter.
>>281949397>X just had to run into the perfect counter.-is the staple of Shippuden
>>281949495Absolute sex wife impregnation womb seed
>>281949495This is so cliche.
>>281949495TEMARI WITH STUFFED FACE IS CUTE AND SUGGESTIVE
>>281949698>have a big sharp object>so anyway I am not gonna kill you with it haha
>>281949752>LOOK, THERE IS THE WEIRD MAN WHO DRESSES LIKE A KABUKI KUROKO AT HIS AGE>AND HIS TOYS HAVE BEEN BROKEN TOO KEK
This chapter needs more Hinata!
>>281949347>only 20 years ago but Sasori is talking like this was eons ago
>>281949121>immediately cuts to him jobbing just like TentenKek
>>281949733He picked a poison that kills slowly instead of one that kills in minutes. I think he might just be a sadist.
>>281949495There's the page
>>281949919>jiraiya speaking sense like the audience
>>281949919Important detail.
>>281949919GIGANTIC Tsunade cleavage
>>281949981>that jutsuFuck you kishi
>>281949842Why aren't you teaching in class, Iruka?Is this supposed to happen during the weekend?
>>281949919>>281949955>Tsunade doesn't even bother to respond to Jiraiya's concern
>>281949981>that jutsuWhat a stupid way to get people's hopes up that Naruto learned something other than O MY FOX CHAKRA
>>281949919jiraiya should've been hokage. too bad
>>281950084>kankuro is just choji without a belly
>>281949955YOU GUYS SPENT 3 FUCKING YEARS TO IMPROVE NARUTO'S CONTROL OVER THE KYUUBI AND YOU INTEND ON NOT USING IT AT ALL?
>>281950020Damn Iruka, you didn't need to throw that shade.
Chapter 251: To the Sand...!!END Tomorrow: Feelings Run Wild...!!
>>281950209In hindsight it's hilarious how little intel Akatsuki had.
>>281950020Iruka, Naruto surpassed you as a non-graduate.
>>281950209...shouldn't deidara still be bleeding out or some shit, or drip blood at least, in part 1 kiba's fight counted on details like the blood drops
>>281950084What was the purpose of removing his face markings?
>>281950053See you in 2 years Jiraya!
>>281950209I wonder when Kishi decided that Sasori was actually some redheaded twink hiding in another puppet
>>281950286Probably before he appeared considering you can still see the puppet jaw here.
>>281950123Does everyone travel by foot in this world?They invented electricity but no gas for cars? Not even horse carriages?
>>281950286He most likely entirely scrapped the monster Akatsuki after the timeskip. Even Kakuzu looks more human than the other monster members like Kisame and Zetsu.
>>281950000Very important quads. Dan is so lucky
>Oh, the Kazekage that we're allied with has been kidnapped by 2 Akatsuki agents? >*swoop*>*teleports to Deidara and Sasori, oneshots them both*>*teleports Gaara back to Suna*>*teleports back to his office*>There, done.
>>281949121Naruto really sucks as a battle shonnen holy shit. Almost all the fights happen offscreen or are powerbuff competition. The anime even with filler retardation elevated this mediocre manga.>>281949807At least naruto and sakura are much more cute in the manga
>>281949121I’m gonna assume the anime added in Kankuro’s fight with Sasori because I could’ve sworn he was treated a little better than fucking THIS.
>>281949304>All the Big 3 all had antagonists with bullshit level poison abilities>One Piece has Magellan>Bleach has Askin>And Naruto has SasoriI suppose his affiliation to poison isn’t nearly as strong as the other two but it’s definitely a big part of his toolkit.
>>281950279Is that seriously how long it took for him to show up again in the story? Christ.
>>281950527>*teleports to Deidara and Sasori, oneshots them both*That’s not even remotely how Flying Raijin works.
>>281950382Dude, if chakra can get you to run 100 mph, the fuck do you need a Model T for?
>>281950973>gives teleporting kunai to Gaara as a gift in case of an emergency, Deidara doesn't remove it from him after he beats him and has Minato teleport behind him
>>281950633A lot of peak Part 1 fights had good fight choreography which was notable at the time. I agree they are cute.
>>281950398they still seem pretty monstrous to me
>>281951050What about civilians?
>>281949121>Off-screenedSo he's just male Tenten?
>>281950286He probably decided this after the timeskip. I have a feeling Hiroko was Sasoris original appearance but given the climate of anime at the time he saw that short red haired boys wad a grip on people and went with the secret bishie concept
How would Temari have fared if she swapped places with Kankuro here?
>>281949698>You have two, maybe three days.That's pretty shitty poison if you ask me.
>>281951275If she were to summon the weasel and blast him with wind, she might break Hiruko, but then she'd get fucked by twink Sasori. I'm not sure, though.
>>281949981Okay, what exactly was "that" jutsu again?
>>281951110>What about civilians?I guess proper cars haven't been invented yet or it's not convenient to build roads in the Naruto world at the time.
>>281950693I don't remember the anime adding a fight scene. The only excuse I can think is to keep Sas a mystery nigga and have Kankuro hype him up for his big fight later. Still sucks there's no fighting in my fighting manga
>>281951371Getting mad
>>281950020>Iruka admitting both Naruto and Sakura were weak as fuck during Part I.Rude.
>Oh no we cant find Sasuke anymore Orochimaru's hideout could be anywhere!
>>281949698>A ninja from the village I just raided who knows my identity and my background?>Not worth killing right now
>>281949919>>281950000Tsunade is a gift that keeps on giving.
>>281949919>hey you probably shouldn't send you jinchuriki to the guys abducting jinchurikis>me? go with them to save the KAGE of a neighboring village?>yeah no I have more important things to do
The difference between how early part 2 and part 1 treat Naruto using kurama is so funny.Why weren't people telling Naruto to not get angry or too emotional 3 years ago?Hell, Naruto used red chakra infront of an entire stadium and people were more impressed the bothered?This feel really awkward when you consider that Jiraiya literally wanted Naruto to use kurama to be able to summon gamabunta.
In the after party thread an anon commented that Kankuro should've made a puppet out of Sakon and Ukon and honestly, if that did happen it would be a cool foreshadowing to Sasori's puppet body since Kankuro would be wondering why their abilities aren't working on him.
>>281949495He bangs her every night btw
>>281951779*than bothered
>>281951876>*he gets pegged and ball busted by her every night btw.
>>281951065>teleports to Gaara while Deidara is flying mid air>AIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE..........
cutenata posting is the best part of these threads
>>281949919You’re more than welcome to join them, Jiraiya. There’s a reason you trained him, unless you think you did a terrible job at making Naruto a better ninja. Temari wouldn’t get offscreened either, her skills match up alright with Sasori
why doesn't jiraiya go with them
>>281952161Busy with research
>>281949121OFF-SCREENED
>>281952161busy jerking off to Dan fucking Tsunade
>>281952161Knows he can't beat Sasori
>>281951966*teleports to kushinas womb*
>>281949955Jiraiya hyping up Naruto's strength so much when all he taught him was bigger Rasengan and slightly better fox control (that doesn't even work)
>>281951088From the storytime.
>>281952196>>281952222>>281950209Arigatou, OP!
>>281952235>Kushina explodes
>>281951855Also it would've been nice for Kankuro to just have his own puppets instead of stealing from Sasori like a fraud.
>>281951855I know Kankuro is a sadist but that seems to be a bit too messed up for a guy on the good guy's team.
>>281952540How so? He already killed him.
>>281952540By all means, Sakon and Ukon were effectively cannibals, they image isn't sacred to be respected.
>>281952793edit Hiruko to Sasori
>>281949304>>281949347Kankuro didn't even make his puppets? Lame
>>281952879You think he bought it from a puppet store?
>>281952879I don't know if Kishi wanted to portray him in the war as surpassing Sasori, but it wrings hollow when he beat a Sasori who had no puppets while Kankuro just pulled out Sasori's puppet body.
>>281951938Tsunade still has the purple lipstick. Fuck you colorists for changing it
>>281952793Base naruto in shippuden is at least B+
>>281950781It's a cheap and easy way of adding tension to your fights without maiming or killing a character.>>281951876>>281951910Is this the power of Kishimoto favouritism?>>281952879I kind of figured "make" in this context means the design, like blueprints, that are then made by hand by each puppet-master, and it takes a real prodigy freak to design a new one from scratch.
>>281952879I cared even less about Kankuro when this was revealed. What a fraud.
It's even weirder to establish the idea of a Puppet Corps. and a grand total of 3 characters use puppets
>>281949797That's every chapter. Even the ones with her in it.
>>281949797Right Here, Right Now, BOOM!
>>281952036Agreed
>>281950209Sasori-danna makes a great point, why did they have such specific assignments? Itachi for the Kyubi makes sense. Kisame's made sense in hindsight since it was a lava guy. The rest are strange. If you assume 3 tails was Sasori's since it got passed down to Tobi, I have no idea what the connection was. Whether 2 tails was Hidan's or Kakuzu's idk if it was said but we don't know the deal there. Pain's was 6 tails if you go off filler which I guess is just 6 paths/6 tails. A lot of the Akatsuki mythos, whether this, the rings or anything else, barely gets covered.
>>281950279so what is that, about 5 months? at this rate, assuming OP doesn't die from AIDS, how long would it take to storytime this entire manga?
>>281949452Kisame bros…
>>281950084why does every kishi male have spiky hair, goddamn
>>281955174>>281949452Deidarabros...
>>281949121whats up with kishimoto completely off screening so many fights in part 2 already?first kakashi vs naruto sakuraand now thisi think if i were reading manga as it came out i would have disliked this series
>>281955343It would increase the number of chapters and probably thought "The anime will take care of it" (It did).
in my dreams, I see it...Naruto, but with Toriyama's fight choreography...
>>281949981were he really talking about a slightly bigger rasengan here... >>281955394>"The anime will take care of it" (It did).it sure did thankfully, no thanks to fucking kishi
>>281955518I thought it was his Reverse Harem Jutsu that he used against Kaguya
>>281955219Easy to draw.
>>281955518As disappointing as it was, I'm pretty positive THAT jutsu was going 4 tails. It's the only thing besides slightly bigger rasengan he shows in Part 2 before having to be trained for new stuff by Kakashi, Yamato, the frogs, and Bee
>>281949981I believe "that jutsu" is a mistranslation and originally it was "that power."
>>281952222Thank you op
>>281955641i don't think you can call unleashing your tard rage and going berserk a jutsu, i bet kishi just wanted to tease some new actual technique for naruto but couldn't come up with anything besides oodama in the end
>>281955786Severely pinchable cheeks
>>281955785>あの術>ano jutsugot the raws, nope
>>281950693>>281951395https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7GOpLar4Bg
>>281951088>A lot of peak Part 1 fights had good fight choreographyNo they didn't. Even Rock Lee vs Gaara had jackshit for choreography. If anything part 1 suffers the most from fights ending in 3 pages.
>>281949919WHY AREN'T YOU GOING WITH THEM JIRAIYA
>>281950053Another Kishimoto issueThey literally just repeated what Sasori said even though they have no idea>he has two, maybe three daysAll characters share knowledge, it's ridiculous
>>281952036It used to be Tayuya
>>281955786One has to wonder what superstition would be in a world with elemental powers, talking mystical animals, and guys that manage to summon death gods and yanking peoples' souls from the afterlife as zombies
off-screening is such a lame way to job
>>281950527What makes you think Minato has the firepower to oneshot Deidara, let alone Sasori?
>>281949588Kish just wanted to draw cutemari so I don't mind
>>281951779It's weird. The best of use of Kurama before KCM was at the end of Part 1, but from the beginning of Part 2 onwards Naruto always messes up and never gets to use it without crashing out. Jiraiya fucked up hard. Meta reason I guess is that Kishi didn't want Naruto to have the advantage over roided up Sasuke when they meet again.
>>281951779Yes, it's really bad. Kurama hurts Naruto and destroys his prospects in early part 2 (well to be fair realistically Orochimaru would have killed them all without it) and Naruto distances himself from it and becomes stronger than most Kage without it, using sage mode and his connections and teachers... but then suddenly yeah we're back to Kurama
>>281955623Why? Did they think the Akatsuki was filled with women and gay men?
>>281956255
>>281956313Gohan did alright in this fight actually, he held out for long.
>>281955786
>>281956267Whatever they are, /ourgirl/ has no time for that quackery
>>281956419>>281956423I think what makes it really egregious is that Naruto's controll was fine in part 1 then Jiraiya wanted to improve that only for it to get really really worse in part 2.
>>281955074Well they're pretty much all offscreened in the manga and it seems like the pairs were just wandering around their assigned area looking for them. Given what Sasori says here I don't think most of them had specific assignments, except itachi and maybe Deidara since her power matches up well against Gaara and she can fly into Suma.
>>281956010Honestly this makes Kankuro look even more pathetic than getting offscreened lmao. At least in the manga it seems like Sasori just quickly disabled the puppets with his knowledge, in this it seems like he'd just completely outclass Kankuro even before he exploits the puppets weaknesses. It is cool that he escapes the coffin move though, that's an objectively good addition.
>>281957065The anime seems to often make characters look pathetic
>>281956059Naruto vs. Neji?
>>281957231.... that's a very good example of what I meant. You've got like 10 pages of punches for the entire thing.The Foxruto vs Neji part lasted like 3 pages.
>>281955875>ano jutsu
>>281956267Superstitions should abound about what brings bad and good luck in the shinobi world because death is so prevalent. Ninjas would count things lucky if they saved them in a pinch and unlucky if everything went wrong. Entire fighting styles molded by personal experiences.
Just read part 2 again up to the chapter where they meet Sasuke again. You know reading it in one sitting made me realized how disgusting Naruto's obsession with Sasuke is.
>>281956010>>281957065By the time this was in production Sasori's puppet body was already revealed, they could've made Sasori just fucking tank Iron maiden, it would've been way more impactiful considering the last time it was used completely killed the target.
>>281958423Considering how Deidara "didn't hurt lol" 'd his way through a sand coffin to the arm earlier, I wouldn't have liked this
>>281950084Being the spitting image 0f WORST DAD must be painful
>>281951294It's a poison to capture Jinchuriki because it takes 3 days to seal them, you brainlet without media literacy
>>281959198He wasn't fighting a Jinchuuriki... are you claiming that's the only kind of poison he has?
>>281959109*Smells like curry.
>>281959198I think that's just Kishimoto writing whatever he felt like and 2-3 days felt nice. By your own admission, "2-3 days" wouldn't be enough for 3 days sealing, at the very least it would be unreliable.I'm not even going to blame Kishimoto for poison that kills you in 3 days, I don't think it's an issue at all, but the connection you're trying to establish is retarded. Kishimoto wasn't trying to make one and his worldbuilding is all kinds of fucked. 95% of the time there's no "media literacy" discussion to be had he just wrote something stupid.
>>281949955What is the line Jiraiya says in Japanese or does he still say Achilles Heel?
>>281959593Doggyhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=MncLAqHjRuk&pp=ygUSSXRhY2hpIGdhc2xpZ2h0aW5n
>>281949981>nobody is seriously arguing that "that jutsu" wasn't the Kyuubi chakra transformationAfter over 20 years, is it finally over?
>>281959514>I want piss flavored curryhmmm.....
>>281950238>In hindsight it's hilarious how little intel Akatsuki had.It's just laziness on Kishimoto's part to set up Sasori targeting Naruto. Judging by later developments, his assigned bijuu didn't even have a jinchuuriki.
>>281949981Naruto is indeed never use that jutsu
>>281959488If it works, why change it up? I will admit it bit him in the ass, but he couldn't have known plot armor would favor Sakura.>>281959518The poison guy making hunting Jinchuriki couldn't possibly make a poison designed to incapacitate someone for ~3 days, so that they're easier to capture and seal. (2-3 days for regular people, it's not like Jinchuriki have more endurance or healing to make them survive longer or anything). He (and the author) just randomly picked 2-3 days instead of 1, 4, 5, 6, and so on
>>281959691Going by Hidan, Pain barely even tells the members anything.
>>281959878>He (and the author) just randomly picked 2-3 days instead of 1, 4, 5, 6Yesit's 100% a random number which lines up with the timeframe of the arc for obvious reasons
>>281949121Fucking dies off screen after absolutely carrying.
>>281959878>If it works, why change it up? I will admit it bit him in the ass, but he couldn't have known plot armor would favor Sakura.So Sasori just went around assuming he's going to fight a Jinchuuriki with anyone he faces and that's somehow not nonsensical to you?
>>281959910No, it's for Jinchuriki since it takes 3 days to seal
>>281959942you're retarded if you believe that
>>281959937If you have a poison that already works, why would you make another one? Call it laziness or complacency, but it's extra work>>281959955Big talk coming from a retard who couldn't put 2 and 2 together
>>281949121kankuro was never that cool to be honest
>>281959990I'm not even the first anon. And like I said it would be perfectly fine to write poison that kills you in X days no matter the story. But thinking you "put 2 and 2 together" instead of this being an incredibly random and meaningless number is RETARDED.This is the same story that goes "heh, too bad Choji I'm 10 times stronger with my curse mark!" "well i'm 100 times stronger now!!". It's retarded. It's meant for stupid kids. It's not well written. The worldbuilding is full of holes. Danzo will pop into existence in like 30 chapters lmao
>>281949807>I'll Return, Lady Tsunade!We all know Tsunade was hoping that she wouldn't
>>281959899>Going by Hidan, Pain barely even tells the members anything.That was a silly chapter. "Here's our entire objective and plan, but it's actually fake and my real plan is something different, but that's also fake and Madara's real plan is something different, but that's also fake and Kaguya's real plan is something different."
>>281960065Why?
>>281960075Please understand. Kishimoto was making this up chapter by chapter
>>281960026Reply to me if you take Freshman Composition, maybe you'll something. Itachi being a good guy was planned from the start btw
>>281960108You smell like curry.
>>281960121I'm not a shit streeting pajeet. Minato being Naruto's dad was also planned from the start btw
>>281949082Dropped Naruto at the start of Itachi vs Sasuke fight. Excited to finish reading Naruto with the anons.
>>281960164First thing you got right. It was still retarded but hinted at early on.
>>281949981>Don't worryNow he just needs to do the nice guy pose and Naruto's fate is sealed
>>281960086Will of Fire
>>281949082>>281949807>>281949842SakuCUTE
>>281949919>>281949981>>281950020>>281950123STACYkura
>>281960220Might Guy lowkey being the strongest ninja alive in the Leaf (besides Naruto or Sasuke) was planned from the start as well
Is Sakura supposed to be 17 or 16?
>>281960391Covering up kunoichi toes is cursed.
>>28196044715, I believe.
>>281960395Lol. Lmao
>>281960508Yikes, y'all are really sexualizing a child.
>>281960570yes. uooooooohhh!! a whole child
how do you seduce this?
sakura? the cutest
Given picrel, I wonder if the same for Naruto will ever happen? Personally I think it would be a good idea.
>>281960660too demanding, you'd actually need good CGI for it to not look like shit
curry fetish poster stinks
>>281960638cutie
>>281960715....but enough about him >>281949797
>>281960715The nerves of anons being attracted to teenage anime girls on /a/
>>281958911I wonder if that's why Kankuro does the heavy make-up and completely covers himself.
>>281958911>WORST DADThat's Minato.
>>281960611urrr uhh you smell so good baby girl....*braaap*
>NOOO I DON'T WANT TO RAISE MY RETARDED SON KURAMA PLEASE KILL MEEEEE
>>281950084Baki summoning Cthulhu for this one
>>281960075Don't forget the part where Hidan and Kakuzu didn't even get a vague description of Naruto despite him being known about for years. That entire arc gets skipped if those two get a quick pamphlet about Naruto and his known associates.
>>281956874>Deidara>her
>>281949880Konoha was founded less than 70 years before the start of the series
>>281949347I just realized that it’s possible that Sasori and Orochimaru fought together as allies in the third ninja war for their respective villages, and then later again in the Akatsuki. Probably didn’t happen but it could have
>>281955074they're all ducking Killer Bee
>>281950633>>281955343You are fucking retards if you wanted to waste time on fucking kankuro fighting. Do you faggots want every minor character to take up panel time with fighting scenes that add literally no narrative value?
>>281961342Sasori is the same age as Nagato, Konan, and Yahiko so he was basically a kid to Orochimaru at the time.
>>281961477now if it was MIFUNE it would've been kino(tm)
>>281961144she turned bad
i want to rub her belly
>>281961477>Do you faggots want every minor character to take up panel time with fighting scenes that add literally no narrative value?Can't wait till we get Team Guy vs. Deidara!
>>281961543The war arc is a literal showcase why showing side characters fighting is such a dumb fucking idea and you could tell Kishimoto stopped giving a fuck by then
the question is why didn't kishi just shelve all these characters, especially when sasuke is the only one he actually wants to write
Why didn't Neji lead a team of Genin as a Jonin? Why are the Konoha 11 Chunin still doing missions with their Jonin as if they were still Genin?
>>281961653He kinda did. I'd even argue wvery time it looked like people were were going to die but didn't end up dead, Kishi had really intended to kill them off, but the editor told him no due to their popularity
Naruto looks like this?!
>>281950633>>281950693>>281955343>whats up with kishimoto completely off screening so many fights in part 2 already?Both the anime and manga were weekly, but an episode covers two-three chapters' worth of material easily. The manga had a head start of a few years but the anime caught up quick. So adding these "canon" filler hooks meant to be expanded by the anime is just good logistics. The main alternative was filler arcs.
>people complained about the amount of side characters getting screen time especially near the end of shippuden>ITT: Why did Kankuro get offscreened wahhh
>>281961712Ibiki wasn't a jonin and Neji was, shit doesn't make sense.
>>281949304Excuse me, WTF? So Akatsuki is running a side business, and the puppet shinobi don't even make their own puppets??? I keep thinking the writing can't get any worse, and by wednesday we reach a new low.>>281949698or just a few pages later>>281949919TFW even Jiraya can see how reckless your plan is>>281949955How can two sanin allow the nine tails to walk straight into the clutches of the enemy, this is insane>>281950053HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT
Hinata should have had died in Neji's place
>>281949807>>281949842Takamaru is really fast, in the time Kankuro took to job he arrived in the leaf and the leaf appointed a squad to rescue Gaara.
>>281949981>ENTER over 15 years of debating whether or not "that jutsu" has been shown alreadyGod it never ended, people thought in the final fight he still had something to pull out, there was debate over whether the exact translation allowed for (Four-tails)Fox Cloak or whether it meant a specific jutsu.good times
>>281950209Thank you OP.
>>281950527Not what he would do, he gave a teleporting kunai to a single one of his team in a special occasionThose who think Minato was any more competent than the other kage are kidding themselves.
>>281952196Why would they send the teams to capture two bijuu in a single mission? It would be better to hide a little their targets and use different missions, the bijuu are strong, and can injure their members, like what happened to Deidara.
I was thinking if Naruto had the worst case of a timeskip(part 2)in manga but I think tokyo ghoul re will forever be the shitiest one. One piece, Naruto, CSM and Shingeki timeskip are masterpieces compared to it
>>281952222Thank you OP>>281959990Nta, but it's a clearly random number.
>>281963454All timeskips are dogshit
>>281963454Just because of how dragged out its been and all the pointless shit and disappointments I'd say One Piece's is worse too.
>>281949807wish I could lick Sakuras legs here she's looking so good
>>281963751Imagine licking her armpits after she hasn't bathed for 3 days during the war arc.
>>281949121nah. no way kankuro got jump cutted. wtf
>>281951371reverse harem no jutsuit traumatized Sarutobi for life
>>281955074>Whether 2 tails was Hidan's or Kakuzu's idk if it was said but we don't know the deal there. 2 tails was explicitly Hidan's. Kakuzu still had his target open, and he planned to go after Naruto
>>281955875oh yeah, I remember that. Fans were arguing well into the pain-arc whether "that jutsu" was still something kishimoto was hiding in his backpocket because of that. I assume the intention at this point was that naruto would use a specific jutsu to unlock his fox-powers rather than just opening up his emotions, and kishimoto simply changed his mind on the exact mechanics and how aware naruto is of the danger he poses.
>>281960611be a cute shy girl that wears a hoodie
>>281964594I remember people also theorizing it was the Flying Raijin.
>>281954376Ahem
>>281956390He was able to fight off both the Ninetails and Obito, so yes.
>>281961477I wanted to see how strong this character we've seen in part 1 has gotten and how this new villain that just appeared fights, yes.>>281961631Except that Mifune was a literal nothingburger character that no one cared about, and Kankuro was at least a character we've seen before. You're a massive moron.
>Sasori beats Kankuro and even says his puppets are hand me downs.>This doesn’t lead to Kankuro creating hos own puppet and defeating Sasori 100 chapters later.Kishi…
>>281961477We could have at least done with a few pages, but I'm currently reading the fourth ninja war for the first time and my god we didn't need an extended Darui fight. >>281965806This is the real missed opportunity It was cool when he used Sasori's body puppet though
>>281966282He should have made a puppet out of Madara’s body.
>>281962020Ibiki is at least Tokubetsu, no?
>>281961477retard
>>281961621Not cool, she's spiritually our (/nart/) mom
>>281956255Tayuya was never a good part of these threads except the one where she died
wait, how again does sasori puppeteer a puppet from inside a puppet?
>>281966963>Summoning giant Kaiju toads? Fine>HOW DOES THIS GUY CONTROL THE PUPPET FROM THE INSIDE MY SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF SHATTERED!!I dunno anon. I never really thought about it. I guess chakra wires just act like electricalcords throuch which he moves the body.
>>281949698Maybe you should have
My OC is called Kinjuro. He’s a puppet master. He uses a puppet to control another puppet to control another puppet to control another puppet.
>>281966997how does he have the thought capacity to puppeteer a 100 puppets simultaneously?
>>281967041Does he have sister and is she hot?
>>281967082No, he has an older brother who’s into weak little men like you.
>>281967696fuck you bitch
>>281967729How come Ino aged 30 years in that frame?
>>281949807why is konoha so fucking dirty and run down, even the main gate has all of these weird patches on it
oof
>>281968143based
>>281968143That’s edited retard
>>281968382I went to his channel to check, it's legit, Tsunade is just 3% higher right now.
>>281968686Wait nvm, she's exactly 35% just like in the image.
>>281965794NOOOOOOOO WE NEED TO SEE THE MC CLASSMATE FEATURELESS CHARACTER NOT THE RANDOM SAMURAI FEATURELESS CHARACTER THIS IS BAD WRITING I NEED THE CLASSMATES NOOOOW
>>281968143no idea who that is
>>281968994Yes, unironically.
undercooked characters should get fully cooked tbqh
>>281969161Completely retarded and autistic nitpick for one (1) character who got one (1) chapter to fight with an actually important character in lore (Hanzo)But yes I'm sure it would have been better if Kiba fought Hanzo instead because he's le classmate!
>It's another episode of people complaining about "Naruto's dumb friends".
>>281969207I'm glad we are on the same page then!
>every single chapter of my 700 chapters long manga should be dedicated to the MC and his classmates from schoolI'm glad Guy replaced Lee.
>>281969207Kiba fighting Hanzo would at the very least showcase Kiba's growth from his rather humble beginning and that he isn't all talk when it comes to become a hokage.We don't really get that sense from Mifune because he's a one and done character.
>>281969267>MC and his classmates from schoolWhat the fuck do you think Sakura, Sasuke and Inoshikacho are?>LeeNot a classmate.
When is Naruto reaching the meta era?
>>281969365So it's good to bring the classmate because it gives him a powerup? Even though this opponent has literally nothing to do with them and he has no business being here?This is juvenile. Sometimes the world doesn't entirely revolve around MC and his immediate circle - not that the Konoha 11 are Naruto's circle, he barely interacted with anyone other than Shikamaru and his own team. They were ditched as fast as they showed up.
>>281969460No, i'm telling you there's a sense of gratification in seeing a familiar face becoming a better version themselves.It's something you CAN'T have with Mifune because we don't know him and never will.
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>>281969516And you're right, I'm not against what you just said. The fix isn't to awkwardly plug Kiba into this but to give him proper opponents that fit him but Kishimoto never really bothered to do that except for Shikamaru
>yeah naruto's classmates are bad but when they keep eating up significant panel time anyway i'm conspicuously silentbig think
>>281969590And more importantly one guy getting 1 chapter isn't an issue and it's retarded to claim it is.
>>281969620I think they should have gotten used better than "hey! They're back! They'll help against Kakuz.... nevermind, they'll help find Sasuk- nevermind (also Shino joke lol).... ok it's their moment of glory watch them defeat mini Juubis!" but it's actually good how Kishimoto occasionally put tertiary characters in interesting situations that weren't meant for K11 and wouldn't work with them whatsoever, making the world feel bigger
>>281969624It is an issue if it's wasted on a literal who that no one gives a fuck about like Mifune instead of someone people care about or at least recognize like Kiba.
>>281969590I feel like having Team 8 come to the Kazekage arc would be better than Team guy.Kisame is a shark man and Fighting the team with animal imagery would fit perfectly, Shino (and Hinata [supposedly]) can even absorb chakra.Also, armless Deidara getting out unscathed from Team 8 would be far less egregious than with Team guy.
>>281969762Yes let's make sure every single opponent is taken down by our circle of friends and no one else even if they have no history with them and are hopelessly powercrept far behind these guys that's great writing!
>>281969833I mean, yeah. They're the "main" characters, or at least they're more important to the story than Mifune. It makes sense to have the manga revolve around them.
>UGH NOBODY WANTS NARUTO'S STUPID CLASSMATES TAKING UP SCREENTIME! WHY WOULD THEY INTRODUCE HANZO IF HE WAS GONNA FIGHT A NOBODY THAT DOESN"T KNOW HIM? >Why bring back Hanzo from the dead at all if his sole purpose is going to be to give Mifune a backstory nobody cares about? >Why is half the Edo Tensei army literal who are relevant to specific characters very few people care about like Sai and Hiashi? >UH SHUT UP WE NEEDED THOSE FIGHTS INSTEAD OF GIVING THE ESTABLISHED PART 1 CAST BETTER CHARACTERIZATION AND ADVANCEMENT BECAUSE WE NEED TO JUSTIFY THE BLOAT BY FOCUSING ON THE THE CHARACTERS THAT MAKE THE STORY BLOATED!
>>281968143dygo bro please make an essay how minato penisfeeds naruto instead of choosing to die would foster the incorporation of the beast's chakra with its host by a couple of years faster than the usual rate
Literally every opening in part 1 after the the first one was hyping all of Konoha 12 to be made of important and relevant characters only for Kishi to stop caring about them lmao.
>>281970372Even most of the part 2 openings still have most of them doing shit as if they're going to be important. Any day now, just you wait!
Why is this garbage still alive?
>>281969833Mifune's connection to Hanzo was introduced in their very fight, you could make the exact same connection by having any character have a shitty experience in a mission on Amegakure.Hell, you know what would be menorable? Either have Tsunade get a salty rematch or have Sakura fight him on Tsunade's behalf.
>>281970290I'm glad you're not a writer
>>281970477Let's make sure this world war is handled by the 5 guys we know from school because they're the only ones we started writing fanfictions about so they have to be the ones doing ANYTHING and anyone hogging the spotlight away for 1 chapter is STEALING their rightful claim to beating the new jobber designed for themYou know what? Forget about writing characters whatsoever, it should all be about Naruto and Sasuke nobody cares about anyone else, only the main characters should get to do stuff. Remove anyone outside of team 7
>>281970689>Mifuneanon hates TsunadeHeh
>>281970689>Forget about writing characters whatsoever, it should all be about Naruto and Sasuke nobody cares about anyone else, only the main characters should get to do stuff. Remove anyone outside of team 7That's already the case in part 2.
>>281970689You just described Shippuden, anon.
>>281970764>>281970876Thankfully Shippuden still manages to give you some moments that dont revolve around these two like Guy vs Kisame/Madara or Jiraiya vs Pain>>281970755She's fine, but do we need to feed her Hanzo after she already got a full arc for herself and right before she gets to fight Madara? Just because Naruto met her in person? That's ridiculous.I don't even care about Mifune, I hate this retarded principle that you can't expand the world in ways that don't directly feed into the familiar safe MC group.
The problem is that Kishimoto somehow managed to hit the worst of both worlds, e.g. Naruto and Sasuke are the only truly relevant characters 99% of the time but for some reason he just doesn't commit to actually giving them all the screentime, because we really needed more Inoshikacho shilling
>>281970974>Just because Naruto met her in person?how is that your takeaway
>>281971000Basically >>281969698He pretends it's their time and we're about to see an interesting arc but then backtracks instantly and ends things without anything happening
>>281971058I mean... Yes. Tsunade is a good character (far better than most of the K11) but the rationale isn't about that, it's about "familiar faces". K11 are some of the most underdeveloped characters I've seen and barely even had a single arc to do stuff. People think they want to see them because of infinite anime OP shilling rather than them being good
>>281970689Anon, i'm going to tell you this nice and clear.Either Tsunade or Sakura, the main fucking heroine with 2 fights under her belt, getting another fight which would be a good physical representation of the latter surpassing the former, would be WAY more important to the story than Mifune existing.
>>281971209aren't they called the Sannin BECAUSE they simply survived Hanzo? you'd think if anyone would fight the dude (again), it would be someone of the Sannin
>>281971354Yes that would fit well. Tsunade already has a lot to do in the war but why not
>>281971272That's not a Mifune problem and that's not a zero sum game. Worldbuilding and characters that aren't the main hero's immediate circles absolutely add to the story if you're not 80 IQ. Kishimoto failing to give anything to anyone not named Naruto and Sasuke is the issue.
>they NEED to constantly shill K11 because… because they just do OK? Expanding on the larger world is bad instead we should get filler episodes about Naruto’s heckin friends like this https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Rain_Followed_by_Snow,_with_Some_Lightning isn’t way worse dogshit than Mifune vs. Hanzo ever was
Actual nice worldbuilding would've been seeing more of the other Jinchuriki desu
>>281971427Of all the characters to fight Hanzo, why Mifune?
>>281972334He's old, leads his own faction and fought in the war. It's believable and the backstory works. He's not 15
>>281971427The problem here is that Mifune was (supposedly) created to fight Hanzo while characters with connections to him already existed (the sanin and their students).
>>281972474Why being 15 is a problem?
The amegakure team from the exams should've beaten Hanzo in the war.
>Tenten wields a swordI'm thinking she should've beaten Hanzo.Kishi told me in a dream that she had a mission in amegakure.
>>281972584That would've been kino.
>>281968143since when is Hinata a leaf kunoichi
>Hanzo if his blade ever met Shizune's chakra scalpel
>>281972962>Anon lives in a timeline where the hyuuga are from Iwa
>>281949121What happens to the Konoha girls here?
>>281970974>Just because Naruto met her in person?No, because she's a character people care about and she's connected to Hanzo, so seeing her have a rematch with him would've been more interesting then seeing a samurai no one cares about fight a guy most people don't care about.>>281971209>People think they want to see them because of infinite anime OP shillingNo, they want to see them because they're underdeveloped when they had potential to be interesting. You retard.
>>281971427>Worldbuilding and characters that aren't the main hero's immediate circles absolutely add to the story if you're not 80 IQ.No they don't, they simply bloat the character cast and make everything a slog to get through if they're not executed properly, which was the case with Naruto's early war arc. And that's very clear to see with how unpopular so many characters introduced during and after the 5 kage summit are.You sound like a deluded moron and a pathetic shill. You should feel embarrassed for being so retarded.
>>281971209>People think they want to see them because of infinite anime OP shillingGenuinely how retarded do you have to be to think that, lmao.More than half of part 1 (aka the chunin exams and the Sasuke retrieval) focused on building up most of the Konoha genin. It's clear that early Naruto wanted you to care about these characters.
I like Mifune, but he and his story with Hanzo WISH they had even half as good of a fight as Neji versus Kidomaru.
Kishi should've let konan survive and beat Hanzo.
>>281974488There's a lot Konan could've done if she survived
>>281972508Mifune was meant for 5KS
>>281974334You are retarded. None of these genin did jackshit in this entire part. Only Neji, Shikamaru and maybe Lee got to be relevant. Shino is a living meme who appeared for all of 3 chapters, top. Choji really only got Jirobo. And so on. Kishimoto never gave a shit about K11 and most of them never had much potential.
>>281974999There's a lot everyone could do if Kishi wasn't gay and lazy.
>>281975743Define being relevant
>>281974251>character bloat>talking about one of the characters who had a clear purpose (neutral party for 5KS) and executed it very well with very little screentimeMifune had at most 2 chapters of screentime in his entire existence. This isn't bloat, this is incredibly lean and concise. Briefly showing the heads of other power institutions that are relevant to the plot is perfectly appropriate.Naruto is kind of bad overall, trash even. 5 or 6/10 if you're being nice. But it didn't lose points because it had a few tertiary characters expand the world. You're conflating Kishimoto's general lack of commitment with perfectly valid writing choices. Naruto would still be 5/10 regardless of K11 getting designated jobbers in part 2 because the issues are running far deeper and your criticism is shit.
Is Naruto a senju because Minato? I mean, was his father a Senju Warlord who raped a kunoichi during a mission and Minato was born? He is so unknown that not even Hashirama or Tobirama knew who the fuck was him.
>>281975820Part 1 is about 240 chapters long, right? How much did these characters appear or contribute, really? Hinata disappeared right after Neji, Shino and Choji had two chapters each, Tenten is a joke, Kiba only got to fight Naruto and run from Sakon... These characters don't appear much, they rarely interact with the plot or the MCs. The anime made people think they did
>>281976061Everyone in Konoha who isn't Hyuga or Uchiha are senju. They intermarried into the Sarutobi, Uzumaki, Yamanaka, Nara, Akimichi and Inuzuka clans as part of the village establishment. Kiba is apparently a Senju historian in one of the Hinata wedding episodes and why the hell would he be if his clan wasn't also Senju.
>>281976485Holy shit the senjus plaped all the konoha girls
>>281975973>Mifune had at most 2 chapters of screentime in his entire existence. This isn't bloat, this is incredibly lean and concise.Not that anon but I would call it bloat precisely because that's the problem with like 90%+ of the cast: Kishi keeps introducing more and more characters who do one or two things, then they just hang around ambiently instead of finally getting shelved
>>281976545Madara saw the plapping and foresaw that the village would remain in Senju power via nepotism forever, and he wasn't wrong.
>>281970413To be fair they do end up doing stuff in filler episodes.
>>281976657Who else was supposed to lead 5KS and act as a neutral party?
>>281977415The secret leader of the Five Eld- I mean daimyos.
>>281976094I mean, but that logic Sakura isn't a main character either and Sasuke doesn't get to be a relevant until the SRA.
>>281978066>Sasuke spends the majority of part 1 Knocked out or absent and he's relevant it's mostly as an object with very little input from himGenuinely, what did Kishi mean by this?
>>281978066Sasuke is a main part of every arc even if he sleeps in someSakura is always onscreenK11 literally just appear like twice or thrice, have a 1 chapter fight and nothing else
>>281978453You could say the same about the part 1 characters who get focus in part 2.
>>281978453>Sakura is always onscreenDoing fuck all.
>>281978732>Sakura says she'll be the distraction>Madara gets distracted responding to her and fucking dies
>>281978856That didn't happen
Chapter 252: Feelings Run Wild...!!Cute
>>281979066Sakura is the cutest
>>281979095Now we're a 4 man shinobi cell
>>281979198Didn't he later say he never hated Kiyuubi?
>>281955472Toriyama could’ve written a better story too. He would’ve put Sasuke in his place a lot more than Kishi did at least.
>>281979095Yes, this cup breaking and the call back to it from the very last chapter was necessary to the story. Very important.
>>281979555Except this isn't what happened. Naruto was alone until the beginning of the series. The he had Iruka, then a few weeks later he has Sakura, Sasuke and Kakashi. Gaara was just alone until the Chunnin Exams and then he had his siblings. Basically only a few months difference between being "alone"
>>281979066God she looks so much worse with short hair
>>281979721YOU ARE MY FRIEND
ENTER
>>281979837>AAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEE SAVE US GRANDMA
>>281979693And yet despite his own village trying to murder him out of fear and hate, becoming a deranged psychopath, and working with total sleep deprivation, Gaara became the better man and made a total comeback, becoming Kazekage all in two years. What does Naruto have to show for it? A new sexy jutsu. Truly our hero.
>>281979506I'm honestly surprised Naruto isn't going red eyes mode when just thinking about his boyfriend Sasuke managed to do that in the SRA
>>281979138>>281979506>>281980023The flashbacks are already getting unbearable, holy fuck.
>>281980023Fucking hell, we already saw in the previous arc that even kids from the academy learned about the Uchiha massacre just a few days after it happened. Did you really need to study Tsunade's reports and snoop outside the village just to figure out that Itachi was the one who did it, Sakura?
>>281979621>Yes, this cup breaking and the call back to it from the very last chapter was necessary to the story. Very important.The constant flashbacks are one of the most annoying features of Naruto.
>>281979385That scene never even happens. I mean under what circumstance would the whole village surround naruto as a child as he cried his eyes out while boycotting him? What in the fuck?
>>281979506Meaty 'kura thighs
Chapter 252: Feelings Run Wild...!!END Tomorrow closing Volume 28: Reinforcements...!!
>>281980199>Jiraiya's whole purpose is to spy on both Orochimaru and the Akatsuki but he couldn't let his allies know this so they had to figure it out on their own
>>281979784>Stronger than all the Kazekages till now
>>281979595as saviour-complex as the speech may be, this speech made by naruto here is one of the few times he sounds realistic/human to our standards/ More blunt and less manga chuuni, if that makes sense. Temari's reaction is the cherry on top.
>>281980193One kid called him stinky and this is how Naruto visioned the entire village
>>281980271I understand that but it's so weird to see Sakura getting that mental image there. There is no fucking way it happened in their reality.
It's funny how we're seeing that the heroes and villains alike seem to be really damn bad at sharing intel and other critical info
>>281980265He sounds pretty annoying and preachy, but at least it's better than him obsessing over Sasuke.
>>281980230>...And this time I'LL protect them both...!!Sigh.
>>281979784>the only good female character in the entire series
>>281980342she never learns....
>>281980313Preachy for sure, as per his usual. But that page he actually signaled some very human angsty "why" as opposed to unrealistic "that's my ninja way! I am gonna be hokage believe it!" etc. It's him relating to another character's pain and instead of just showing how he can better through it because the writer makes him the better example, he voices out coherently. I don't see too many other shonen protags doing that nor himself often after this stage kek, so it's a bit refreshing.
>>281980193>>281980271>>281980301The more we see of Naruto’s childhood “abuse” the more it makes me laugh at every “edgy Naruto destroys Konoha” fic out there.
>>281980230>and this time I'll AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>281979976Almost got to see Sakura sleeveless pit... So close...
>>281980230>perfect downblouse angle>literally no titsOh sakura...
>>281980427Wtf is this animated fanfic
>>281980519Sakura looks androgynous as hell. I can only assume it's Kishimoto's taste.
>>281979750That jinchuriki poison is doing a number on Kankuro
>>281980551I'm not seeing it
>>281979750>>281979941I don't understand, why did kankuro need to grab the piece of cloth and whisper his identity when sasori himself revealed who he was out loud? Or did I forget that it meant something else later
>>281980592Scroll the page until her forehead is hidden from view, then focus on her face.
>>281980417Honestly I do prefer the anime's portrayal of Naruto's childhood. Even if it is pretty cartoonish and silly to say that everyone in Konoha other than Iruka and Teuchi was deadset on bullying the village's sentient nuke, it does help make Naruto feel more justified when he compares himself to Gaara or Sasuke.
>>281980230Imagine waiting a week for this chapter, Jesus.
>>281980630ok what next?
>>281980592I can. If it weren't for her being covered in pink and red, she would likely make for a decent reverse trap.
>>281979506Already ignoring the answer he found was to cause the greatest amount of death and suffering possible
>>281980630Just makes me think that Sakura should wear lipstick.
>>281979165WHY DIDN'T YOU CARE ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO??? YOU SAW IT FIRST HAND KAKASHI
>>281980632The anime also added in more scenes of him dicking around with Kiba, Choji and Shikamaru though. Are we really supposed to believe that he hung out with those guys as kids and they all fucking hated him and didn’t want him around?
>>281979198Uh, this is how she finds out about this? I thought it was on tenchi bridge.
>>281980230Thank you OP>>281980244And not even the worst spy they have for akatsuki.
>>281979506>he was worse off than me because he was alone for a lot longerOr you know, because literally everyone around him ran away from him and wanted him to die, his father staged multiple assassination attempts on him, and his uncle was the only person that cared for him but he killed himself saying he also hated him, while you still got to play with other kids your age and the worst you experienced was people calling you stinky.
>>281980525Sakura x Itachi is kind of a underrated ship
>>281979066Sakura was so cute and good for a grand total of one arc in part 2
>>281980803The manga also had that.
Temari jumping all over the trees while commando!
>>281979976>>281980023The flashbacks really are starting to push it a bit now
>>281980230Where was Kishimoto going with this?
>>281979095Interesting, 3 whole days to get to the sand!
>>281981003I know. I’m saying the anime added in even more scenes like that while also putting larger emphasis on Naruto having an utterly shitty childhood. It might be even more inconsistent than the manga.
>>281980023SAKURA DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT UNTIL NOW!?!?Why is info gathering so SHIT in this manga?
>>281976999The Uchihas could have done the same but they were imbreed autists.
>>281981042hot
>>281981127Characters either know everything or they don't. Remember how Sasuke wasn't surprised at seeing Kabuto?
>sakura thinks she can take itachiwell she probably could, but not in a fight.
>>281981156As kekkei genkai wielders they kind of have to maintain a eugenics policy. Uchiha relatives who didn't maintain purity became the Fuma and lost the sharingan entirely.
>>281979459Yeah Toriyama mogs Kishimoto
>>281981081We would never know since his wife told him she doesn't like sakura nor wants her to win nardo.
>>281968084It's supposed to be China. Pre schizo buildingmania era China, that is. You can still see what it was like in Hong Kong and Taiwan
Can we appreciate Teuchi/Ramen guy? Probably the best man in this manga
>>281981258>SLUTachi already thinking about having another loverIzumibros....
Nardo you talk big but in the two years of training you mastered, what. rasengan and rasengan shuriken? You are gonna be MIA for fucking dozens of chapters for sage mode sitting under a waterfall doing fuck all. Big talk when trying to save a fucking kage.
>>281980417I mean, gaara was an alright kid despise the bullying until that happened. It only takes one person you think was on your side to betray your feelings and tell you are a monster. If it wasnt Iruka back then Naruto would have become a mess.
>>281981310...that's the exact opposite of what happened.
>>281980397Yeah this part is surprisingly good
>>281979555>Naruto creating false memoriesHOLY SHIT KKEEEK SHIPPUDEN IS ALREADY A TRAIN WRECK
>>281981367>the real reason Naruto never went apeshitMaybe all the villages just needed a Ramen Guy too
So, was Sakura told Naruto had the fox prior to this or did she figured out on her own?
A week a bunch of Flashbacks and false memories
>>281980199Being allies is all good and fine but I still don't think it's a good idea to talk openly about unrelated topics regarding national security while a foreign states agent is around...
>>281981397Did you say talk? That's his specialty
>>281981641Maybe he should develop something like a talk-no-jutsu...?
>>281981638Pretty weird that ninja academy doesn't teach OPSEC.
>>281979941>>281980023these bottom left panels are almost identical, pick a different angle
>>281981718LAZYmoto you god damn hack.
>>281979876What the fuck is he talking about ? What channel, what road??
>>281981288Cant they breed with non uchiha girls and the ones with sharingan breed them with other halfies with sharingan? Most of the clan problem could have been solved if one generation fucked in large scale
>>281970372SP had their hopes too high. Same with Boruto when they introduced all those aniime-only characters who became nothingburgers to the brand.
>>281979095>three daysIn SRA it seemed to take these niggas only a few hours to get somewhere.
The redpill is that teachers like Kakashi, Guy, Jiraiya are more main characters than Konoha 11 outside of team 7
>>281982226Thanks op
>>281980230thanks opthis chapter was 70% filler
>>281982127>>281982226>>281980230Arigatou, OP!
>>281982322Kakashi and Jiraiya are more of main characters than Sakura is
>>281970372My HEROES!...and Shikamaru...and Asuma...and SHITraiya.
>>281981702Remember how the return of an S-rank traitor was leaked to the worst person to hear it because of a total fucking careless accident?
>>281982416I really like you.
>>281982556Kakashi's shuriken bedsheets look very comfy
>>281982546Stop posting, Hidan.
You can see where Ikemoto got his pacing lessons from. Kishimoto was the OG for this series.
>>281981408>It only takes one person you think was on your side to betray your feelings and tell you are a monster.More like Yashamaru was literally the only person who Gaara thought didn't hate him. And then he died trying to kill him, saying how he also secretly hated him, and that his mom didn't love him either and wanted him to be a curse on the village that killed her. Pretty rough.
>>281982556All planned by BLACK ZETSU of course
>>281982556Considering how brutal Konoha tends to be, the higher ups could have probably gotten that guy executed for fucking up so badly and kickstarting Sasu's schizo arc.
You are my friend!AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>281949919i noticed kishimoto uses jiraiya and kakashi as mouthpieces to vent is gripes with shonen logic and say things the audience is most likely thinking, with the questionable decisions made. it reminds me of an interview where he says naruto needs to act in ways he would disagree with because of the demographic of the story.
>>281983675I remember that interview. Kishi said he agrees more with someone like Sasuke because he would never forgive someone who did the same as Itachi.
>>281983675>>281983731so fucking weird
>>281979703faggot
>>281983731>Has Sasuke forgive Itachi and worship him anyway while having history whitewash his actionsHuh!?!?
>>281984296Sasuke found out Itachi did it under orders from the Leaf state, so he targeted the Leaf instead.
>>281983731>he would never forgive someone who did the same as ItachiBut that's what Sauce did, though? He completely forgot about Itachi and wanted to kill all Konoha villagers because the elders used him.
>>281984340But then he also has Sasuke forgive Konoha
