Why didnt he help his friend who was desperate to save his wife and child? Why didnt he help his friend who was trying to save a nation from genocide? He had both the power and means to save a peoples
>>281950955Katakuri D. Onut, first son of Edward Newgate and Charlotte Linlin, former YC2 of the Rocks Pirates current YC1 of the Big Mom Pirates and Future Supreme Commander of the Strawhat Grandfleet.
>>281950955Because his membership was on the line, don't expect a dog to break his leash if he has a treat underway.
I applaud Oda for making Rocks reasons for god valley being to rescue his family, I thought for sure this guy was gonna be a total dickhead and now I'm starting to think hes no worse than Roger. The image of him desperately fighting to rescue his family and everyone turning on him is horrific. We think Oda is gonna make him do something fucked in the process?
How are my fellow FATE gods doing?
>>281951277God I wish Ulti would put me on a leash.
>>281951307She can be rough, though. She lost a lot of hamsters by accident.
>>281950955So why the fuck does he look like Kaido in here, and why the fuck has Oda been completely ignoring the matter ever since the flashback started? It's pissing me off.
i unironically think rocks is in the top 5 best characters oda ever written.
Do you think Oda is going go commit to the SBS Davy Jones design or will he redesign him
>>281951370What? You expect him to say something like (Harald, father of Yonko Kaido) like he did with Xebec?
do you think Xebec is portrayed as a tragic hero because it's being told by Loki who is a massive Xebec shill?
LEAKED XEBEC DEATH SCENE
>>281951302
>>281951149I want him to sit on my face
>>281951370>Why does the man who infamously has a sameface problem draw characters with similar faces
>>281951450Glad you’re doing okay KataSis.
>>281951436The narrator took over since Harald came into the fray anon, this is a flashabck for the audience, not Lokis recollection of events, he didnt even know any of these things
>>281951384That's just an old Davy Jones and like all old people he is a tiny man, so technically yes
>>281950955Harald jobbed on purpose to let Rocks save his family despite his position. What did you faggots want him to do? Take the entire Elbaf army and raid the Navy HQ or Mariejois?
>>281950955He was still trying to lick the celestial dragon boots
so what did dragon do that was badass and alluded to his fruit? spoilers didnt mention it
>>281950955In the name of the Xebec, the Teach and the Holy Jones, curse this sinner to Hell
Think about how big Yamato's tits are, then think about the fact she's like 9 foot tall so they're about 60% bigger than they seem.
>Dragon saves Shanks from being raised as a Celestial Dragon>Shanks saves Luffy from being raised as a MarineI like this quite a lot.
>>281951604He kills 2 jr gods knights and gives Garling a permanent injury
>>281951604Nothing
i hope Wang Zhi is as strong as implied and not just a sneaky fuck like the original Buggy (i love Buggy dont get me wrong)
>>281951650>Dragon saves Ginny from not being repeatedly raped to death
>Grow up strong, Luffy.>With you by my side, we'll finally beat the Garlings at the Triannual Holocaust Games.
>chosen piece
>>281951444>puts head into wood chipper>If I die here then it just means I was never meant to be captain of the Geek Squad
Fate piece
>>281951650>Luffy saves a kid from being raised as a Pirate
>>281951678I took both BB and Law to take him out, right?
I hate Roger's pink shirt, he should wear this
Fuck Roger Fuck GarpFuck Rayleigh Fuck oden Fuck shanksThey are all frauds. Blackbeard and rocks are the real heroes
>>281951584So this guy is esl? Can someone explain to him in his native language to stop lying in his hints/spoilers?
>>281951685Garp might be a joyim but nobody gets the privilege of competing alongside the gods' descendants.
>Apoo is a backstabbing double crosser throughout the entirety of Wano>Wangzhi was the catalyst of God Valley as he kills a crewmate and betrays Rocks>both chinese themed charactersWhat did Oda mean by this?
>>281951441>OH N-
>>281951584Why fight Rocks at all? Was Harald still obligated to kill Rocks on sight or something? Could have just let him past. Unless Harald was sucking WG cock and guarding something like a specific path so the hunting competition could go undisturbed
>>281951796Luffy is based on the Monkey King.
where were you when this episode dropped?
Wangzi and his crew got to have a taste before selling her to Garlin.
>>281951821they're not friends anymore
Is there anything that could recontextualize things and save Garp as a character?
>>281951452not that anon but>infamously has a sameface problemretarded meme, mostly constrained to women oda wants to draw as pretty, but extremely exaggerated anywaybesides, not only is kaido a male, but his face is pretty unique in general compared to the few zorofaces/garpfaces/acefaces you can very rarely see in some designs. a character jus happening to look exactly like kaido would be a big coincidence if unintentional tbqfhwy
>>281951856Jesus D Christ...
>>281951866No reason to fight on sight
>>281951642proportionally, yamato's tits are below average in the OP world desu
>>281951873Garp didn't do anything wrong.
>>281951821I think the offer of him killing Rocks for a place in the Reverie still goes
>>281951856tits too big
>>281951873Being able to understand the story
There's literally nothing wrong with being a celestial dragon.
>>281951917But he supports an evil "empire"
>>281951702I knew it was a HxH nigger spamming this shit.
Nooooo, what is this? WHERE ARE THEY?!!! I just got to this part and i get hit by this tragedy :(
>>281951765And Koby, don't forget Koby the Hero
>>281951873Garp's character can't be saved but some damage control is possible if he saves at least some people.
Hes really trying to live up to Saturns depravity isnt he
>>281951912Who cares? In real terms they're be almost double the size of the biggest IRL tits. You could be fully enveloped between them.
>>281951856Artist?
Loki's devil fruit is the Gossip Gossip no Mi
Theory about Shanks and Shamrock actually being Rocks’ kids have any legs?
>>281951999Hopefully that means he’s going to kick the bucket soon.
>>2819520621 less leg than Zeff.
Honestly whats the chance God Vallry was chosen because the WG found it was Rocks homeland as a revenge for his transgression of invading Mariejois
>>281951650>What's a safe place for a baby?>I'll put it in this box, babies loves boxes right? He'll be fine
>>281951980Not from his point of view.It a good empire
>>281952121
>>281952001why stop there when you have giants then
>shady looking rapist>is a shady looking rapist
Huhhh... our response?
>>281952046chatgpt
>>281952199Fair question, but it's because she's still normal sized enough. Fucking a giant woman would be like using a road tunnel as an onahole. Though it would be fun to bounce around on their giant tits, true.
>>281951497Thanks, missed you
>>281952230I love him. Seen his work before. Best artist by far.
>>281952099It's not just because of the transgression but because the place housed the Davy clan.
>>281951821>Was Harald still obligated to kill Rocks on sight or something?I would imagine that and what >>281951935 said. Remember, the WG are the type of organisation to spy on you at all times and treat you harshly if you dont do the thing they want you to do.
>>281952207GODA
>>281952290We are so close...
>>281952207Calling it right now Caribou will also play a crucial role in the downfall of Blackbeard.
>>281952257More of a skilled thief than an artist.
>>281950955Lived like a cuck, died like a cuck.
>>281952207imagine all those things he did to shakky's body
>Garling Yumejos
>>281952165That's why I have no beef with Garp; he's morally right and fighting for justice. the celestial are absolute justified in everything they do too.It a righteous duty
>>281952215I forgot the picralated but no one will know it was me so I'll just keep posting itt like nothing happened
Whats the chance the WG helped Ochoku keep control of Hachinosu?
>>281952321What's the difference?
>>281952321No, he just finds inspiration everywhere, like a true artist.
>>281952264If the WG was that good at knowing what's going on 90% of the story wouldn't happen and Harald wouldn't have been able to fool them both before and after his death. Unless Harald was on a WG ship or near one, he had no reason to fight Rocks just because he sees him. He couldn't even muster the balls to kill him when Rocks was right there in Elbaf
It'd be incredibly funny if Buggy was really just some random baby Rogers crew picked up, no D. bullshit lineage, just pure dumb luck, and becomes the Pirate King and even discovers the One Piece FIRST.
>>281952318I think Blackbeard is much more savvy to scheming and would know Caribou's lineage
>>281952345A Rocky Port flashback is long overdue but I guess we'll get to see some of it when we actually get to the Teach POV backstory.
Can you guys stop arguing about "good" and "evil", you could look to the ends of the world and you'll never find an answer...
>>281950955>Why didnt he help his friend who was desperate to save his wife and child? Oda really has to fucking do something to explain why people tolerate and work for the WG at any level.It's getting fucking ridiculous.Vice Admirals and Admirals are aware of and aiding and abetting slavery and genocides of whole islands while.The WG is powerful enough to repress any rebellion but not to just fucking sweep the Grand Line or the whole world of pirates?
>>281952391You're right, you have to look within to find the answer.
>>281952062No
>>281952374Harald got that Kizaru inner conflict going on, he wants the peace and the WG membership but also still doesnt consider Rocks an enemy enough to try to truly kill him
>>281952382Oh he'll definitely discover the One Piece first. He probably won’t know what it is at first or how to use it but he'll be the first one to lay eyes on it.
>>281952391It's pretty simple. Everything I do is good, everything you do is evil.
>>281952394Problem is thar most factions and groups in one piece are fucked to a degree
Didn’t Blackbeard kill Ochoku?If he was Caribou's father then what are the chances that he wants revenge?
>>281952391Blackbeard...
>>281952374The one time you lapse, that's when they get you (in a story). But outside of that he probably just put in a token effort as he had previously determined to take Rocks out, but couldnt will himself to do it in that moment, given the circumstances.
>>281952453Pretty low, we've seen Caribous inner thoughts and he seems to genuinely want to join Blackbeard's crew. He's too incompetent to actually do anything to Blackbeard anyway.
>>281952394Level one reader
>>281951289>We think Oda is gonna make him do something fucked in the process?Yes, the sequence of events seems to be heading in a direction like this:>shakky, rocks' woman, teach, shanks, shamrock, garling's side piece and a bunch of slaves are at risk in god valley, along with six special devil fruits.>ginny broadcasts the situation to everyone.>rocks gets there to rescue his family, his crew is there for shakky and for the devil fruits>the roger pirates get there for shakky>garp gets there for roger>dragon, as a rookie marine, is part of the guard surrounding the island as the tournament takes place, not knowing the situation yet.>after everyone gets there and the fights begin, rocks learns his wife got killed, and believes his son died too, going on a rampage, attacking everyone, including slaves, god valley citizens and his own crew too.>roger and garp then realize he's the biggest threat at the moment and take on him>the huge fight is the opening that allowed kuma to escape from saturn and to rescue all the slaves successfully>the rocks pirates get disbanded after seeing rocks out of control and bail>dragon learns about the true nature of the CD from witnessing the tournament and from meeting briefly shanks' mom and listening to her story.>she asks dragon to save her children, but maybe shamrock got lost, then dragon put shanks and a letter explaining his lineage inside of a chest that the roger pirates were going to take.>dragon then confronts garp there, for working as another slave for the CD, garp says something about being more helpful for people staying there, then dragon refuting that, choosing to change that, he then quit the marine and joined/created the freedom fighters.>roger and garp don't kill rocks, he just gets defeated, shakky goes with the roger pirates and they take the treasures with them>garling is the one who kills rocks and since the whole fight sunk the island, rocks sunk along with it, mirroring the davy jones myth.
>>281952453Him being Caribous father is just speculation right now, Harald and Kaido also look almost one to one but so far theres no blood ties
>>281952394The reason for that is that Imu wants to see the world struggle. Imu is obviously mentally rotting and pissed off over some event centuries ago to the point of being sadistic towards the entire world. It's by design that all these issues are left to fester and cause untold suffering.
My fucking hero and the most morally righteous person in this entire manga. Not pirates, not navymen, not government people, Dragon deserves to rule the world
Is Ochoku not the luckiest man to ever live?>manages to steal Shakky right from under Rocks and hundreds if not thousands of pirates>would have had Rocks Pirates on his ass for the rest of his life but Rocks gets defeated at God Valley>Whitebeard could have gone after him for killing a crew member and betraying them but doesn't care>Kaido or Shiki could have decided to become the next rulers of pirate Island but chose not to>manages to stay ruler for decades and avoid his comeuppance until Teach got his ass
>>281952451You don't have to be on a faction.You don't have to advocate for some other ideology.You can just be on the not-slavery/not-genocide faction.You can blow up the fucking WG and confederate or just go totally independent.All islands already have their own functioning governments.There's no reason to keep this absurdly unjust one in power.Unified Yonko and World Powers would easily wipe the Gorosei and God Knights.Imu does not seem powerful enough to trivialize that.And even if he was absolutely immortal or all-powerful he can't effectively reign or do anything without this organized military.There's very little reason this WG could have stood for 800 years.
>>281952394The biggest reason for most people to support the WG is the lack of perceived viable alternative that could perform the valuable things the WG does do, such as maintaining the peace from pirates. Oda's not been the best at demonstrating these positive aspects, but characters like Garp and Harald commenting on it does indicate that Oda wants it to be perceived that way.Most people prefer a flawed order to anarchy. It's an interesting element of our own history too.
>>281952504I am of the opinion that Rocks isn't dead.When he got defeated at God Valley the gorosei/holy knights took him captive and there's going to be a reveal that he's been a slave and in chains in Mariejois all this time, totally mindbroken.
>>281952578The issue is that the "good" group of marines is like 10 characters tops while every single other marine introduced is a sadistic power-tripping maniac that would gleefully kill women and children even without orders.
So how is Teach escaping the God Valley massacre? And who do you think kills his mother? Could be any of the Holy Knights.
>wait are you trying to save your homeland and your family from genocide?>You filthy TERRORIST! Mariejois has the right to defend itself!
>>281952639My guess is Whitebeard takes him by accident.
>>281952623I'd even venture to say most of the Marines we've been introduce are morally good.Which is why they have very little reason to play along with slavery and genocide.
>>281951289>Gets abandoned by his crew who are just after treasure and shit>Finally finds his wife, dead>Decides that fuck it he's just going to destroy the world and goes crazy slaughtering everyone>Gets put down by Roger and Garp
>>281952650>B-but we only have half a hospital left...
>>281951584>Harald jobbed on purpose to let Rocks save his family despite his position.Pewpew headcanon, herald got bootyblasted
>>281952511Rather than sadistic Imu seems apathetic to human life after ruling as a hidden god for nearly a millennium.Like with Lulusia there wasn't any grudge against the country, he didn't seem to evaluate its existence at all, he just picked it on the map because it was close. There wasn't any drawn out terrorizing either; Uranus instantly destroyed the place as soon as it got over the island and people cound notice it.
>>281952623one of Oda's weaknesses in writing is failing at "show, don't tell" and keeps trying to push a narrative at different points, which is interesting because he seems to have learned how to do that well enough with Rocks. it's a low bar but Rocks is a fucking breath of fresh air
>>281952665Do you think the average American is evil? Because >>281952650It's amazing what the average decent person will be in favour of when they've been brought up with certain ideas implanted in their heads.
>>281951999Well now we know who Dragon's match up is
Even in our world, slavery was only abolished less than two hundred years ago in the west.That is not a long time and it still ongoing in other part of the world.The world isn't a freedom fighter paradise
>>281952703A majority of Americans hate Israel.
>>281951289THE REAL GOLD, GOLD ROGER WOULD HAVE MASSACRED THEM AND LAUGHED.
>>281952686Imu is likely not originally human and simply does not see humans as equals.
>>281952623Most marines we have met are decent people>Kuzan>Koby>Gruss>Smoker>Tashigi>Helmeppo>T Bone>FujitoraAnd much more, even the "bad" ones like Kizaru are conflicted individuals
Certain "people" goat
>>281952650>wait are you trying to save your homeland and your family from genocide?He made himself the enemies of the WG, His homeland deserved this 100%>You filthy TERRORIST! Mariejois has the right to defend itself!Well yeah
>>281952729Half isn't a majority
>>281952751Again, like 10 characters.The rest gleefully brutalize civilians and are okay with casual genocides and would follow orders with no questions asked.
Why are they doing all this?
>>281952722We're not talking about the real world.We're talking about One Piece world where individuals can become powerful enough to level mountains and conquer nations.The kind of individualistic power means its ridiculous that any real government would be stable for a hundred years.Random urchins off the street can get their own tragic backstory and become strong enough to solo armies.
>the "unhinged terrorist" is just a man who died to save his wife and childDamn. Oda is redpilled as fuck
>>281951616When you think about it, Garp DID stick it up against the WG for producing some of the best revolutionary criminals in the world.
>>281952729No, a slight majority are not in favour of the WG's actions but it's still a huge amount more that are in favour that feel sympathy to non-CDs. Despite literal genocide and war crimes (according to the UN amongst others). But yeah, it is at least moving in the right direction so maybe it'll end up in the right place before everyone the WG hates is dead.
>>281952623The top and middle ranks seems to be the most morally questionable, the rank and file are largely just regular people doing what they're told and likely becoming more desensitised as time goes on. One of the big problems with big, corrupt organisations is that they start to attract people who are genuinely malicious and actively make the situation worse than it already is. The Marines have a ton of people like that, no doubt, and they'll have to be weeded out at the end of the story when the WG inevitably falls.Much of the problem here is that this is a manga focused on the pirate side of the story, so we're not seeing the boring everyday positive stuff the marines are likely doing around the One Piece world. It doesn't justify the evil shit that underpins the organisation, but it does act as a moral counterweight that should be taken into consideration. Regular people can both do and excuse a ton of fucked up shit, if they believe in the overarching goal. Soviet Russia is solid example of that in our world for instance.
remember that these are the only parties that matter so oda can have his reversi game symbolismbad/good piratesgood/bad marines
>We may be chapters away from Rayleigh embarrassing Garling
>>281952771Gorosei are shown to be Imu's slaves. If any one of them disobeys they get killed on the spot, even remotely.So whatever Imu says, goes.A thing to note is that at no point any of the Gorosei look like they're into their tasks. They all look either troubled or detached in general.Still efficiently doing their job, but likely due to coercion. Seems like Imu can see all they can see and can fuck with them remotely.
>>281952766>would follow orders with no questions askedBig problem throughout the entirety of human history actually. People tend to just follow orders and close their hearts to the others desperation
>>281952760>He made himself the enemies of the WGThere is no world where genocide is justifiable because of the actions of one man
>>281952771They saved more lives by nuking them than would've been lost if they hadn't.
>>281952760Shouldn't you be knitting a dreidel or something?
>>281952557Bros... Is Dragon slander finally over...?
>>281950955He's just retarded, just like all the other One Piece characters and Oda himself.
>>281952771It's going to be the classic "Freedom vs Control because people might do bad shit if you give them freedom"I doubt the CDs and World Government started off as evil moustache twirlers they just became that after spending too long in power
I was thinking Garling would be Shanks’ opponent but there’s a legitimate chance he can be a Blackbeard victim while Shamrock is for Shanks.
>>281952207He is Moria's dad right? Can't shake the resemblance.
>>281952850Genocide is always justifiable"You are the enemies"
My hero didnt deserve this...
>>281951873Not really.
>>281952890>Sabo, I've made my decision. It's time for me to join the fight>mobilize all revo forces, marching orders to all revo leaders>I feel a hurricane is about to hit the world>I've planned everything meticulously and have contingencies for every WG move they might make and all the plans are right here in my head>WG is in a checkmate, they have no moves left>this is a culmination of decades upon decades of planning>once I finish this I can finally retire and be with my son>falls down stairs and dies
>>281952749I like the Vearth theory but it doesn't line up, Imu was from one of the founding kingdoms who defended the earth from an invasion by moon niggas during the void century (probably)
>>281952207>>281952937Yeah I was gonna say.The malevolent face, flabby weirdly proportioned body, with the lack of a chin.Is Ochoku supposed to sound Wanonese? Another connection to Moriah-Wano?
>>281952318No he won't Blackbeard will succeed where Rocks failed.
>>281950955>Dragon saved Shanks>Shanks saved Luffy
>>281952890Dragon will only regain some credibility if God Valley really was a trap and he realized they were trying to pull another one against the Revos by taking Ginny.
>>281953006>Is Ochoku supposed to sound Wanonese?Ochoku is the Japanese pronunciation of Wang Zhi
Oda is a bonafide genius.
>>281952578>valuable things the WG does do, such as maintaining the peace from pirates.Not true, each island has its own army and police force they protect the island from pirates, fishman island is a reverie country that has been a member for 200 years and gets no protection, goa is one of the biggest countries and gets no protection, alabasta is deff the biggest member country and gets no protection WG exist solely to collect heavenly tribute the only scenerio where they will do something is if pirates are hindering the ability of that island to pay heavenly tribute. One piece isnt morally gray fake deep pretentious shit, Oda makes it very clear who the villain is
>>281952394The healthcare plan is unbelievabley good
>>281952835One of the most interesting things in the story will be learning just how powerful Imu is and how much that dictates the actions of people like the Gorosei and WG in general. Is it a soft power situation? Or a hard, magical level of power ala the deal with the devil type situation that you mentioned.
>>281953038Garling to Shamrock>WHY>DO>YOU>HAVE>RED>HAIR
>>281953030Yeah but is the name supposed to be "Wanonese"?
Endgame right here sisters
>orchestrates the death of a sea rapscallion Shouldn’t have put your dirty D. foot in Mu’s garden
>>281953064I don't think they're as backwards as to have a healthcare plan. Like all first world countries, they'll have a nationalised healthcare system.
>>281953074Guess all the "why is Garling blond" bros were right
>>281951873>>281951917
do you think Shanks left the HKs after finding out the truth about his mother?
>>281953083Ummm Mihawksisters, why isn't Pisshawk here?
>>281953134He is, he's just wearing his hijab.
>this is the 50th D who tries to overthrow you my liege... all jobbed
>>281952935The more I think about it the more it makes sense.Blackbeard gets a third fruit and who’s the best character that’s Shanks-lite that he can fight to show off his powers? Shamrock or Garling.Who causes God Valley? Garling.
>>281953068It's definitely hard power when it comes to Gorosei since Saturn got mulched remotely, likely due to Imu voiding his "contract".It seems like they all got powers (and longevity) due to Imu's influence and once the power is revoked they age instantly and die on the spot.Another thing that was pointed out is when the gorosei were introduced their devil fruit power was phrased differently. I don't recall the specific but I think it said "devil power" instead of "devil fruit power".
What did Teach learn from the death of his father?>Never put anything above your dreams>Do whatever it takes to accomplish them
>>281953064At a glance I thought that was Hachi.>>281952686Lulusia was close but I think it was also picked because Sabo was supposed to be there, and he got away after seeing Imu. Same thing with the order to kill Rocks.
>>281952639Could have been one of the 500 people Kuma saved.
>>281953184Trust no one, especially giants and vampires
>>281952994It does line up if Vearth jumped into the body of one of the founders of those kingdoms, just like how he recently jumped into Lili's body.
>>281953057How much of that is an issue with Oda telling not showing that the marines supposedly do those things. Prominent characters have talked about it happening and we have to assume they're not talking purely out their arse. The Marines and WG can still be the bad guys with that in mind, no need for pointless narrative labels like morally grey.
>Xebec was a good guy>Roger was a retarddemoralization piece?
>>281953190Lulusia was picked before any of them knew Sabo was there, that's why the Gorosei said he was unlucky.
Monkey D. "Slave Catcher" Garp
>>281953079No, he is named after a real life Chinese pirate named Wang Zhi.
>>281953190>Lulusia was close but I think it was also picked because Sabo was supposed to be thereThe Gorosei mentioned that it was a coincidence, it's destruction had already been decided.
>>281953202Yeah when you first see it getting nuked, it's made explicitly clear that they just found out Sabo is there and that's why they nuke it. Then several chapters later, Oda oddly goes over that again but this time they don't mention Sabo and it's implied it's just random, pretty much. They're getting uppity, maybe, but that's about it. Not sure why Oda did that, like a retcon unfolding in real time.
>>281952569>All islands already have their own functioning governmentsPeople seem to not or rather refuse to understand this
>>281953083>Kuzan separate from Blackbeard(obvious) but also Koby (he's not with SWORD? despite the heaving hinting?)>Dragon separate from Sabo (Dragon may overreach or die?)>Shamrock and Figardad separate from Imu (Celestials ruled by greed and self-interest)
>>281953116Why would Garp call Dragon Brother???
I'm such a happy cuck!
>>281953168So there's definitely that element at play, Imu having control over the Gorosei's lives. But is that the full extent of Imu's leverage over them and the system of the WG has been constructed around that? Or is there even more at play than just survival of the established socio/political system?
>>281953083all that matters is that Buggy wins
>>281952919>I doubt the CDs and World Government started off as evil moustache twirlers they just became that after spending too long in powerthat's what vegapunk referred to when he mentioned an ideology clash between two factions early on, not necessarily good vs evil, same thing is probably what the mural passage refers to for the second world>the people of the half moon saw a dreamed>the people of the moon saw a dreamthen, from the faction of the 20 kingdoms, imu was part of them>men became gods after slaying the sunthen after beating joyboy, imu betrayed the other 19 and rose above the rest, granting the tittle of CD to his followers and the descendants of the 19
>>281953245This is Nami and Zoro being happy that Chopper confirmed her pregnancy, btw.
>>281953297Good for you anon, having sex wouldn't have suited you
>>281953253>>281953258Oh, thanks for the correction. I did think it was strange how the Gorosei worded it.>>281953265If only the anime adaptation of Marineford looked like this. Maybe when Wit Studio gets there.
>>281952569 what’s next? Why don’t we all just get along...kek.
>>281953334it is all going to be revealed that the One Piece was actually a treasure that buggy already looted and spent on owning that first town he appeared in, and luffy chasing him out was actually just a scam run by those who lived on the island.
>>281953384>>281953350SOULLESS
So what is the secret of God Valley? Obviously it has something to do with the Davy clan but what is it? If Blackbeard is a fake D. (didn't smile when he was about to die) then is Rocks also fake?
There's only value in the marines maintaining status quo if you think there is value in the status quoThe marines, without exception, are supporting, empowering, and propagating a genocidal fascist regimes that sees it's citizens as nothing but slaves. For all the talk about Garp not wanting to serve the Celestial Dragons, his every action protects and validates them. This simply can't be ignored>B-but pirates do bad things tooYou don't have to be a marine to stop pirates. Garp is simply too cowardly to try vigilante justic
>>281953394absolute bino (buggy kino)
>>281953297We know herald
>>281952569I’ve asked that question before myself.The One Piece world is like ours with their own nations and militaries. The reason people join the Marines outside of pay (which tbf must be much better than the salary for most soldiers) would be to make the world a better place. The fact that much of the top brass are just fine tolerating slavery and genocide is bizarre.
>>281953245>Luffy: hey guys look what i can do>stretches butthole about 2 meters wide so Usopp can walk inside
>>281953384Smaller more localized tyrants and pirates emerge and create chaosand then new unified factions of island states and navies emerge with the possibility of NOT HAVING SLAVERYNOT HAVING GENOCIDES
>>281953292>he's not with SWORD? despite the heaving hinting?Motherfucker there has been no hinting. We have been beaten over the head with what's going on with Kuzan. He's not working with the marines and he doesn't want to work with the marines. He has his own agenda he's pursuing as a pirate
Whats his endgame?
>>281953459>Motherfucker there has been no hinting.saved G5 from Doflaidentified and explained SWORD to blackbeardoff-screened fight with Sakakuzi (maybe even won)
>>281953467He's going to be king of Elbaf since Loki is going to join.
>>281953467Reaching the end of Loki's story and killing him for wasting so much time on the simp wars instead of actually getting to the point.
YC1 tier
>>281953351But Nami's crying.
>>281953526
>>281953259Has this been edited in the volumes? Because I definitely remember after Sabo escapes, there's this whole thing about the Gorosei wandering where he is and tracking him to Lulusia, so they nuke it. Then a few chapters later, like you say, Oda redid the scene but now it's just because Lulusia is close. I'm trying to find the two different versions now but when I read through (from the death of Cobra onwards) there's only the scene of Imu saying it's because Lulusia is closeby.
Egghead arc looks like a great arc.
>>281953526>shichibukai with no haki's third commander tier
>>281953568
>>281953083>Dragon and sabo shown separatelyHuh.. bros?
Most of this story only happens because Whitebeard, Big Mom and Kaido are the LAZIEST pirates in existence.
>>281953467No endgame? He jobbed to kid Big Mom and Doflamingo's fodder.
>>281952569Just think of them like Arlong but on a much bigger scale >They show up one day, insist you start paying them protection money>Execute a few people and maybe destroy a town or two to set an example >Prevent any meaningful resistance with bribes and illegal deals>When they do fight, they're stronger than 90% of the people involved >Continue until the legendary sun god appears and beats you up
>>281953437Most western militaries and governments are tolerating genocide right now. Even funding it or sending weapons to the killers. And if you want to say that that's not genocide despite the blatantness of it all - exactly. That's how the Marines and many citizens would view the genocides happening in the world of OP.
>>281953607WB is pretty apathetic as a character all things considered
>>281953597Bonney sexo
>>281953571So Crocodile? He too has a 2 billion bounty now lol. 2 Bil means fuckall these days. Inflation is real.
>>281953526I hope they die
>>281953646see >>281952787
>>281953607Unironically you can pin the blame on Harald.
>>281953597I wonder what it does the to the mind of a 12 year old, with a body that looks like a 7 year old, to have enormous tits and the figure of a very developed 20-something year old.
>>281953681>Bounty>Power level
>>281953646That’s what I mean. Whether you think that’s fine or not, that’s at least understandable as it’s for an out-group. The Marines are meant to be protecting all of the nations inside the World Government, their technical in-group. But they really only serve the Celestial Dragons.
So garp is forever an irredeemable piece of shit right?
>>281953400I dunno, is there a reason to believe the Davy clan is focused in God Valley rather than it just being Rocks from there?>>281953529Because it was from her drunken one night stand with Jinbei.
>>281953010Dragon didn't do shit
>>281953607Whitebeard knew everything and recognized his role was to hold the line until the new generation arrived, Big Mom is making a power play throughout her arc. Kaido...uh.........................needed more weapons from Wano that we never see him use and needed more Smile users that never did anything.
>davy jones, the leader of the monkeesCINEMA
>>281953721Yup.
>>281953721Literally me.
I think Xebec rocks.
>>281953297Good for you, Carrotbro.
The only way Garp can be salvaged at this point is if he had some major brain trauma when he was younger.I really cannot imagine his type of character being a marine for so long considering what he must've seen.He was even an enthusiastic marine after seeing god valley and likely many other genocide festivals.
Where is Ulti?
>C'MERE PUDDING IT'S RAPING TIME
Harald deserved the brutal death he got, should have been worse
>>281953568Oda's girl designs peaked in Egghead
>Roger kills his captain>Proceed to have so much homo sex with him he catches aids and diesHuh... based?
>>281953597
>>281953805She is brother partnered and happily so.They likely have sex only in their dino forms so it's less awkward.
>>281953805Fun fact, she only lifts her mask when she sucks Yamato's cock
>>281953804Nothing wrong with thatGenocide festivals are good, we need land and resource and it belongs to the gods
>>281953693Nah, there's no guarantee that if he'd sided with Rocks that they would have been able to win. We still don't know the full capabilities of the WG at the top level, specifically Imu. For all we know, if Harald had joined with Rocks, Imu would have just gone nuclear earlier and everything would be fucked.
>>281953818> This is a move a Celestial Dragon taught me when I was a kid with my mother.
Please Oda subvert our expectations and don't make LuHa canon.
>>281953746GODA
>>281953709Correct. Not entirely accurate but a rough estimate.3B>2B>1B although the 1B's are starting to look stronger than the 2B's
>>281953847I hate incest fags.
>>281953804He can be salvaged, so long as he turns at the right moment during a successful overthrowing of the WG. If he tries to maintain it to the end, then he's doomed forever.
>>281953829>reddit file name>rape/gay fantasiesLike pottery.
>>281953924That's why Page One and Ulti have to be in their dino forms when copulating. Otherwise it would be too icky.
How does Loki know what happened in God Valley?Did Mosa tell him?
>>281953954kill yourself
>>281953948That type of slutty clothing got her mother enslaved.
>>281953924Let's be honest for a second. Ulti and Page One are way too touchy-feely than regular siblings. Almost every time they're shown together they're touching each other. Sanji and Reiju were never like that.
>>281951289at this point i just can't imagine oda actually has roger and garp kill rocks unless he gets domi reversi'd and starts trying to kill everyone present from the marines to the roger pirates to whatever slaves are nearby. or maybe teach is on the escaping slave vessel ginny and co. took and in order to buy it time to get away rocks decides to pick a fight with everyone on the island as a distraction at which point his crew ditch him, still not knowing about his kid and assuming it's some sort of tantrum over losing shakky and kaido eating one of the fruit he wanted, and garp/roger teamup to stop him.
>>281953948When's the last time you had sex?
>>281953958Harald told him what Rocks said and did since he was such a fanboy.And then maybe Roger filled in Harald about the events "on" the island afterward.I don't think we've seen Roger interact with Elbaf yet?
>FUCK WANGZHI
>>281952959This stupid quintuple neck motherfucker paid for it decades later
>>281953350Wtf I love Katakuri now?
>>281954082Leave Red King alone.
>please care about my dying manga
>>281954123Hunterbro...
>>281954123Oda…
How many marines, nobles and other government will Ivankov forcibly transition and have raped by the end?
>>281954119FUCK red king
>>281953661He achieved his dream in life, then held on to it until the day he died He probably could have done to Wano and worked something out with Kaido and Oden then find Laugh Tale if he really really wanted to
>>281951873>Explicit confirmation he didn't know the CD "field trip" he mentioned to Sengoku was a genocide festival>Somehow doesn't find out about it once at God Valley, without it seeming like he's an absolute mongoloid not to be able to put it together>Fights to save common Marines who are suddenly being attacked from all sides by every legendary pirate from the era>Also said marines have to somehow be sympathetic so this can't be the ones involved in the genocide game and instead ones that arrived to captre Roger, or it has to be primarily to save Dragon who is clearly disgusted after finding out what he was guarding CDs during>During the fight with Rocks has to be an honourable, clean fighter that doesn't do any dirty tricks or know he's trying to rescue his family in addition to not knowing GV is his home and was being genocidedit's a LOT but still potentially doable
>>281952567He wasn't a yonkou or anything, how did he avoid the heat for like 40 years
My gfs a Christian, very devout, but stopped reading OP when Luffy became a god because she said it was blasphemous. She was 10 when she started reading, right at the start of Egghead. She then went back and marathoned the whole thing, and saw the Nika thing again. So it's been a lot of her life so far and she just gave up on it. Is there a way to get through to her? I liked talking about it with her.
Do you guys think we'll get a One Piece game with CAC anytime soon or do we have to wait for China to make one and hope it has an actual budget behind it unlike the last time they tried
>>281954123When One Piece dies so does Shonen Jump.
Drink a lot of water and love yourselves, tomodachis
>>281954159Ivankov is the type of revolutionary who gets eventually purged after the revolution is achieved.
>>281953083who is the most notable omission here
>>281954205>western gamesholy kek
>>281954191You have to respect her religion, chud
>>281954205Crazy how shit like this can just happen in the New World.
>>281950955>Why didn't he have his nation declare war on the World Government to save someone who couldn't return the favor.Real headscratcher. If Xebec couldn't save God Valley from Garp and some knights, I'm sure he could save Elbaf from the entirety of the marines + WG.
>>281954016touch grass
>>281953661I still don't get what Whitebeard's justification for not doing anything about Blackbeard was. He was just going to let him go because of a vague sense of wariness and concern? Isn't that all the more reason to stamp him out early?
>>281954016Irrefutable
>>281954159>if you a marine, you either have the choice of being injected with estrogen by the revolutionaries and fucked, or get the flu from blackbeard and fucked>either way even if you escape you're probably going to get sold into slavery to the noblespoor little marine bitches
So how do marines and the world at large really rationalize away genocide festivals?How does that fall into "protecting the population from pirates"?
>>281954159All of them, since everyone turns into a hot girl.
>>281951678 I think he's just a vicious asshole who was waiting for exactly the right time and place to seize Pirate Island
>>281954313By calling them festivals. Have you never been to a festival? They're fun.
>>281953184Loyalty is mostly a meme
>>281954260Did you skip marineford?
>>281954227Garp
>>281954316GIWTWM
>>281951873He believes he's the only hope for reforming a broken system, but he has to stay in that system to do that. I'm honestly surprised he didn't blow his brains out after Marineford.
>>281954260Whitebeard knew that Blackbeard was prepared for them to pursue to him and didn't want to make a hasty move.
>>281951307kinky but i kinda get it can someone make a meme that says check your self before you Xebec yourself?
>Garp the Hero? Complicit in almost every crime possible>Pirate King Roger? Sex addict freak >Rocks D Xebec? Family man>Wait anon? Why are you rooting for Xebec? Hes the bad guy. Youre supposed to cheer for Roger and Garp the unlikely duo (in cinemas this fall)What the FUCK did he mean by this
I don't think Straw Hats are good people. They seems to always take everything they wants by the usage of force and they defeat evil people they encounters only because those get in their way.They never wanted to save the whole world and their battle against Imu will certainly be provoked by circumstances rather than morality.
>>281954374When did he tell you that?
>>281954247Logic doesn't exist in the world of OP.Why didn't Imu take over Elbaph in all the time since the void century (or even before that).If it's so important and it takes a miniscule amount of effort to bring it to heel (literally took only three holy knights casually attacking while drinking tea) why wait all this time.Imagine if Luffy and the strawhats weren't there. Elbaph would've fallen in less than an hour.
>>281954339No I did not, was there another reason given besides this one?
>>281954313We have literal livestream footage of Israel bombing hospitals and photographic evidence that their snipers kill boredom by competing over which bodyparts they can hit on the kids they shoot and most of the world doesn't give a fuck because the victims are from a different place than them.I do not struggle to believe at all that average Marines can compartmentalise the festivals as acceptable.
>>281954374>my preconceived notions didn't line up with the actual story and therefore the writer is bad
>>281954374Was it schizophrenia that caused this post?
>>281951362What is the combat advantage of a dinosaur having big tits?
>>281954374Roger being such a non-threat does explain why the WG gave him a favorable execution.
>>281954397>>281954419>>281954429I am right and you are wrong nuff said
>>281954407WB never cared about the parents of the people he recruits, his entire motto being that you cant pass judgement onto the child based on the parents sins. He likely treated Teach like everyone else and his background was irrelevant to him
>>281954191>having a low iq retard as a siblingcouldn't be me
>>281954449She doesn't live for combat. She also likes giving titjobs to shotas.
american nami is hungry
>>281953948She's 12.
>>281954407We have nothing else besides this and Shanks also telling him to be wary of Teach later. If we ever get confirmation WB knew who his dad was it'd probably help explain it though, probably had mixed feelings about hunting a man he loved as a son for decades that he possibly felt some level of guilt towards if he ever realised what went on at GV with Rocks and on top of that knew not to underestimate the child of a guy like him.
>>281954374they should stop making shitty movies where luffy fights some old guy in the least creative way possible and make god valley instead
>>281954476Well yeah, but what's Whitebeard's rule on murdering a fellow crew member and running
>>281954356When has he ever tried to reform the system? Sword is more about getting rid of the Marines' inner politics and going after untouchable pirates, nothing about the world nobles' depravity or the Marines' own crimes. And it's most likely that it was created by Akainu to begin with.
>>281952771The Elders and Imu read a First World text called 1984 and really jived with the idea of a boot stomping on a human face forever
>>281954484>gf>siblingShout out to America.
>>281954488>burgers.... everywhere....
>>281954374>noooo sengoku said xebec was a bad guy, this is bullshitkill yourself
As things are now I don't see how Roger and Garp could end up fighting and killing Xebec, even if the pretext is that they're here for Shakky.Maybe if Imu pulls some shit and Xebec gets Othello'd into a demon, going berserker on both friends and foes alike.Also I wouldn't be surprised if Teach too escapes by getting shoved into a chest like Shanks did.
>>281954449Honestly you never know...
>>281954205cover yourself in oil
>>281954449Store haki, all the great female pirates have big tits because they have a lot of haki.
>>281954191That's what you get for banging schizos
>>281952959He could have been a contender
>>281954491And?
>opg unironically fell for the proganda of the dude who murdered innocent pregnant women
>>281954535the one good panels in wano right there
>>281954313Given the Celestial Dragons are treated as gods, they likely chalk it up to having to acquiesce to the whims of the gods, whether they like it or not. In addition, they may assume or be told that the inhabitants did something wrong, so they're not worth mourning or feeling bad for. The constructed world ideology of the WG is all designed to reinforce this notion as a form of control, the rank and file Marines being the key targets for that exact form of thought control. Stay in line, don't question it, or else.
>>281954506I think he told Ace not to go because deep down he knew Teach was too strong for Ace
>God's Valley >Ohara >Rogers baby hunt The WG sure hates the West Blue
>>281954414Israel is justified, by the way.The arabs though they could fuck around, well enjoy the conséquence
>>281954575Wasn't that Kong?
when's don krieg and kuro coming back
>>281954575
>>281954575Where's the evidence the Marines killed pregnant women? They were just searching the pregnant women, it was never stated what exactly they did to them.
>>281954508He's playing the long game by training SWORD to be the eventual replacements for the admirals. That or he's just a retard.
>"you know, I'm something of a holocaust denier myself"
>Rocks was the good guy all along>Roger is a fedKEKAROOOOOOOOO
>causes the deaths of Xebec and BB's mom>gets hachinosu>eventually BB conquers the islandWhat do you imagine BB did with him to repay him for that?
>>281954607I know that, but why doesn't Whitebeard send someone strong off? Does he think Marco would lose to Teach?
>>281954611>west blue is the weakest because they keep getting genocidedmakes sense
>>281954627We saw Krieg in the background at Egghead.Kuro is still yet to be seenAxe-Hand Morgan completely fucking disappeared.
>>281954575That man is going to hang himself before the justice gets to him. The goat and he have a suicide pact already set up.
>>281954650turned into a woman and fucked to death
>>281951873For whatever reason, we haven't heard any of the Rocks pirate's complain that Luffy is Garp's grandkid despite that being common knowledge and Garp isn't listed as among the heavy hitters Kaido has a beef with+we haven't seen the Five Elders react to the news that Garp went missing at all, we simply don't know what to make of this yet. I think there's some plot twists involving what the WG would want to do to the Marines to guarantee their loyalty in the endgame that might trigger a revolt.
>>281954616>Israel is justified, by the way.this post glows
>>281954191>She was 10 when she started reading, right at the start of Egghead
What does FATmi order at McDonald?
What exactly is in God's Valley that Imu's supposed to be pleased about? Nobody cares about the twins' mom, and if Rocks' wife and kid had any importance they'd be locked up like Shakky and not potential fodder for random celestials, and Shakky is/was supposed to be Garling's prize so it can't be her.
>>281954419the "bad" writingis that the story should have ended 500 chapters agothe scale of the drama and cast is unwieldythe strawhats barely even have plots or arcs anymorewe're literally on Elbaf and Ussop has done fuckallZoro didnt necessarily need it, but probably should have explored his connection with Wano even atleast as a swordsmanif he actually gave a shit about themes and character development he would be on semi-permanent hiatus like hunter x hunter trying to organize itthe powerscaling has reached absurd levels relative to dramatic stakes, luffy has uncovered like 3 more exclusive tiers of haki that simply let him punch harder only it works against the new villain for whatever reason nowthe weight of the evil built up over a gorillion chapters is beginning to strain the moral coherence of the marineskeeping track of people's motivations or strangely uncharacteristic lack of motivations over decadeseven the wackiness and cartooniness has faded
>>281954531Seething lil shill
>>281954638>the long gameHe has only taught two apprentices, one of whom helped with the genocide in Ohara and later became a pirate. And the other is already trying to stop the greater force of freedom the sea has seen in a while.
>>281954728The Davy Clans secret murial, which is why Rocks knew where to find Imu
>>281954653I think deep down he was scared of sending anyone after Teach, he knew Rocks personally and knew his strength, Shanks said the same too.
>>281954616Fuck off spiritual Tesoro
>>281954728devil fruit tree is 100% in the middle
>>281954728They have found the location of Uranus and it's a national treasure.
>>281954635
I still don't understand why did he pursue them all the way to east blue even after already destroying their ships.
>>281954575>Gets to retire happily>Gets away with EVERYTHINGCucks can only seethe impotently.
even kid buggy could tell there was something up with teach
>>281954728That definitely should have been revealed in either this chapter or the last one.
>>281951873The Marines just find the CDs to be a necessary evil to keep the OP world from completely descending into chaos at the hands of pirates. There's nothing to really save, Garp doesn't like them but it is what it is.
>>281954016To be honest, Sanji is a pretty cold brother to Reiju. The first time they met, Sanji said he never wanted to see her again or something like that. If you look at WCi, Pudding received much better treatment after the "betrayal" than Reiju ever received from him.
>>281954738It's not as simple as bad writing. It's the format. You have 17 pages or whatever, about 40 times a year, to tell this massive ongoing story. It's suited to enemy of the week type shit, some guy who pops up out of nowhere then is a boss for a few months (or years if it gets out of hand, like Namek) and then you move on. DBZ is suited to the format but OP has become a massive sprawling epic. Imagine if Tolkien wrote LotR 17 pages at a time, most weeks, to a certain degree adding new stuff all the time, for what's gonna be 30-40 years. In a novel Oda could edit previous stuff before publication, crop things out, go back and plant foreshadowing in earlier chapters etc. But it's almost like an improv story with literally over 1200 named characters, lasting for multiple decades.
ohhhhh JOYboy, and clowns are all about making people laugh, i get the buggyfags now
>>281954826he was just dicking around he never takes anything seriously
>>281954858>The Marines just find the CDs to be a necessary evil to keep the OP world from completely descending into chaoswhat? this makes no sense, they dont do anything, they just take from the poor and kill anything they dont like
>>281954826Bored
>>281954864reiju is sexy and she was the only one that was ever nice to simpji
>>281954826Like back in the old days when you'd play WoW and go back to a low level area and one-shot everything while listening to a podcast.
>>281954650Got Doc Q to turn him into a woman, then raped him to death while Law and Koby were forced to watch.
>>281954826Between Mihawk and Kuma, does Christ exist in OPverse?
>>281954887The government writes their checks.
>>281954939Nika = Christ in OP
Our hero!
>>281954939It's like asking does England exist because they all speak English - or does literal Japan exist (not Wano) because they all speak Japanese.
Theres nothing inherently wrong with genocide. I celebrate every time a shitton of people die in third world countries
>>281954374>Hes the bad guyThere was no bad guy, it was just a clash of assholes.
>>281954016In reality, other than the generic “I don’t want you to die”, Sanji doesn’t show any kind of affection for Reiju.
>>281954898>>281954923But he could drink expensive wine in his mansion instead...
>>281954979i miss pre timeskip one piece designs
>>281954979He's now a rando on Hachinosu with Don Krieg
>>281954986Yeah, the less Americans the better. I'm so glad they have their God Valley style murder games at high schools several times a month.
>>281954939If actual Jesus showed up in One Place would it ruin the manga?
>>281954979Is this guy popular in the latino one piece community or something?
>>281954986based
>>281955019That won't even make sense and would just make things confusing since Jesus is already in OP.
>>281955018Kek
>>281954016Reiju and Sanjis sibling relationship is more realistic while Page and Ulti is more comedic anime
>>281954868>Oda could edit previous stuff before publication, crop things out, go back and plant foreshadowing in earlier chapters etcthe live action is actually getting updated lore, for example, we now know when the crew visit loguetown, there will be posters in the background showing references to the god valley incident, not being taboo and not a known event, but rewritten as a victory of the marine and the story of how garp became a legendary hero.I'm very interested to see what they add for dorry and brogy, if there are references to the sun god and for blackbeard destroying drum and what was he looking for there.
>>281954313>So how do marines Those who have to know would likely be in the inner circle range of superhumans where the Five Elders would expect a individual to carry out a Buster Call and behold the glory of a Elder in their full satanic majesty, the weaklings don't know and the upper echelons are bought and paid for and are too in deep to try and find other paths in life. You need to have developed your will (haki) while in the Marine systems, and there's no good alternative faction actually fighting for the common man that's easily tolerable. There's a short list of WG traitors, and only Dragon and Saul seem to have left because they were radicalized against what the WG is doing.>the world at large really rationalize away genocide festivalsIf the WG declares a nation outside of the WG to be a threat or a harborer of pirates, that's not exactly a bold statement to make at any given time, the average person in the Blues never leave their islands and the average person in OP only has access to a single widely distributed newspaper. Underworld types would likely have concerns but the WG is really good at covering up stuff like the Amber Lead fiasco, and we've seen plenty of instances when designated political types have gaps in their knowledge, like Jimbe not knowing the Gods Knights by sight or Bege not having any intelligence on Streuson
>>281955067This.
>>281955038he was cool as shit if you read the TLs in jump back in the day. baratie was peak
>>281954887The Marines almost assuredly don't know why the Celestial Dragons are considered gods and able to do the shit that they do, but the system they operate under treats them that way and who are they to question what the people above them say? It's an religious/ideological thing more than anything and people can justify a lot of terrible things if they believe or are forced to believe in something on a collective level. Remember, we have always been at war with Eastasia.
>Mythical Zoan. Hito Hito no Mi: Model Jesus>Exactly the same as Marco's fruit but he can't fly or do flame things>He can produce a lot of bread, thoughYeah I'm rerolling if I get that fruit.
>>281950955Here are your Laugh Tale crewmates.
>>281954728Teen Little Oars Jr, the last living known full blooded ancient giant
>>281955083the live action won't survive past season 3they already made Vivi black
>>281955083i hate this shit it reeks of thinking they know better then the creator >inb4 he approvesof course he does hes making money from it
Are Zoro and Perona like siblings and is Mihawk their father figure?
>>281955128They made her Indian. Indians don't do driveby shootings, they just turn every building into a curry house in a 5 mile radius.
>Rocks finds his wife dead and a bloody stain that might've been his son>rages >reveals one of the two devil fruits he needed for his plan and eats it>it's the yami yami no mi>sucks in and destroys God Valley>Garp is called a hero for evacuating the CDs>Rocks is presumed dead>Roger remains a cuck
>>281955098>Can only duplicate bread and fish>Not meat>Luffy calls him a shitter and tells him to beat itHeh
"The weak don't get to choose howthey die."
why did Wano end up like it did?
>>281955130>it reeks of thinking they know better then the creatorReally? It feels more like a fan tribute than trying to outdo Oda.
>>281955128they are covering little garden and drum island in season 2, even if it gets cancelled, we'll still get a lot of references to current events, that's the hook for manga readers.
>>281955018>The relationship the fat slob World Nobles have with the Gods Knights is exactly the relationship sports fans have with sports stars and are basically the ultimate form of decadent entertainment (committing atrocities recreationally and professionally) and that's why the Five Elders don't treat Garling with respect
>>281955200She's hot, you blind nigger. The blue hair does look shit with dark skin, though.
>>281955183It seems like he was probably stalling for time as he organized the next/final arcs.
>>281955171>>281955200Alabasta is based on india
>>281955067Their relationship is weak, Reiju is the only one showing affection. Sanji doesn't treat his sister much differently than he would treat a random person like Kawamatsu.
>>281955200>ugly
With the revelations in this chapter, does it make BB irrelevant as the final villain? It's just some guy with a dad and ate some fruit, and made a crew to be an asshole.
People are acting like people working for and following the orders of the marines (the largest, most funded, most powerful organization) is somehow crazy?Group mentality is one of humans specialty. 99% of humans are sheeple, crabs in the bucket etc..People working for the marines despite their obvious crimes is one of the most realistic parts of one piece
>>281955098You can walk on water though, that's a hell of a power
>>2819552370/10 bait
>>281955238SEXOOOOOOO
>>281955205>i totally know one piece bro ive read it all
>>281955237No, it's Egypt and Arabia in general. But yeah, it's close enough. Like having a Brit play a German, or an American play a Nord or whatever. "People" are just easily triggered by this kind of stuff nowadays.
>>281955237>american education
>>281955237It has a desert interestingly.
i'm done watching brownsand especially done watching browns replace white characters
>>281955266>>281955285>>281955291Cleopatra was black
>>281955238damn zoro eats THAT?
>>281955168Nah, he's just an older, more capable adult figure that they spent time with. It's like an early 20 year old spending time with a mid to late 30's friend who has their shit together.
>>281955285>it's Egypt and Arabia in generalAnd Africa
>>281955237WE
>>281955310>afro-american education
>>281955168
>>281955303She's from Scotland, so technically she's as white as an American is American. Nationality over skin colour? Or is America just a lot of white immigrants that aren't really from there?
>>281955354I'm done watching browns,and especially done watching browns replace white characters.
>>281955310Cleopatra was from Greece. Endless Egyptian leaders were from Europe.
>eat bird fruit>cant fly
>>281955285>But yeah, it's close enough.No, it's not.But everyone with a brain knows the real reason behind that casting choice.
>>281955393why the fuck are you responding to me, nobody who posts that is being serious
>Vivi has to be white like the real Egyptian queensMeanwhile the Egyptian queens:
>>281955400...Not all birds fly anon.
>>281955400He can't fly but his words soar.
>>281955400
>>281955260Finally, a man of understanding.
>>281955425STILL not Indian though. Fucking Americans thinking it's just some easy lightskin/darkskin divide. If you're doing some casting faggotry, then do it right.
>>281955422I've spoken to Americans before, it was possible.
>>281955400wait he's not a mink?
>>281955200>I'm angry because my own bigotry keeps interfering with my pathological need to masturbate to all the media I watch
>>281955354"Americans" is an anglo-saxon concept and it's not because various semi-nomadic indigenous ethnicities were established in some areas that this invalidate this concept.You cannot compare it with recent immigration in a white country established since centuries.
>>281955183What do you mean?
>>281955425Vivi isn't egyptian, but the egyptian rulers were whites.And Vivi is white, and Alabasta was inspired by egypt.
>>281955463https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Tori_Tori_no_Mi,_Model:_Albatrossflying minks dont exist
>>281955463Mink's are specifically furred animals, no birds or lizards
>>281955237And Vivi is based on people with brown skin
>>281955459Yeah they've should casted a Nubian for Vivi for historical authenticity
>>281955260Opg bluds are low IQ, dont bother
>>281955255>>281955220>>281955468Reminder that I unironically had to hold back vomit when I saw LA ViviWhy would anyone ever watch that crap over the OG?
>>281955475is it true oda actually never said this persons gender?
>>281955488A bat mink could exist. It's furry mammals
>>281955425>dark skinnedYour point, blud? And yeah, Egpytians typically weren't black Africans, though it depended on the region. They were more middle eastern with often white (mediterranean) leaders. But the general idea of Alabasta, and remember it's meant to be Arabasta, is a middle eastern look. It's like if you had a cowboy town but they were all black - there were certainly blacks in the wild west but it'd be retarded to pretend that was the norm or that it goes with the style of that setting. And so here it makes sense to have darker skinned people.
Hostages are the easiest way to win any fight in one piece
>>281954826for teh lulz
We celebrate Fagrald, Loger and Goyrp death here.
>>281955522Truly a mystery what gender Yamato is.
>>281954808>>281955260
>>281955522She's "Oden" in the same sense a child wants to be the cool superhero heard about.She is not trans.There's already an explicitly trans character for you to pretend to flick your festering fake axe wound to if you like.
>>281955508I'd take Idris Elba or Nelson Mandela over Ben Shapiro or Andrew Tate. It's just shitters vs non-shitters. The most damaging group to the west right now is the WG.
We love our black queen Vivi
>>281955588Harald was nice this chapter
We don't really care about real life projections, Vivi in this story is depicted as a light-skinned character from a westernized oriental kingdom.Alabasta is based on an european romantic vision of the arab world. They see it as an idealized places with alchemists, mathematicians and ruins of ancient civilization. With sexy belly dancers, genies and merchants. And the characters are often depicted as either whites skinned or light brown with european phenotype features on their faces.And believe it or not but this vision is more attractive than the reality and arabs wishes it was like this IRL.This is why woke hollywood is pissing on the setting again and butthurt brownoids are seething.
>>281955543Luffy is really lucky the WG is falling apart right as he became a Yonko, otherwise they'd probably have attacked Foosha Village by now.
>>281954575>people thought Sengoku was relieved when it was just Akainu entering because it might have been someone that would snitch to the CD's about him talking about Rocks>he was actually worried Garp had overheard and would shut down his bullshit to tell the cadets what really happened
>elbaf cannibalized for god valley shitsad!
>>281955608Nobody's asking you to choose between Idris Elba and Ben Shapiro or Andrew Tate.Nobody white, under 40, and rw likes jews or the stupid pickup artist shit for brownoids.
>>281955600calm down i didnt say that shit
>>281955238Fairy Fail covers look like this for real.
>>281955638The nika fruit is actually protecting Luffy by inhibiting his sex drive. He can't be hostagefucked
>>281955663Blame Oda for not making Kaido's flashback cover Rocks' intro and crew dynamics.
Do female celestial dragons get dick from hot commoners?
>Oh my god she's so ugly>ACK I'm being sick into my lungs>All the girls I bang IRL are so much hotter>Why did it have to be a brownoid>I'm about to die>I leave my cumsock to my Boa Hancock figurine
for me its marco the phoenix 2nd in command to the GOAT whitebeard
>>281955704would've saved wano
>>281955663>cannibalizedHarald is like the most important friend of Rocks and vice versa, they're tied together
>>281954191not mu business, not mu problem
>>281955716Nixon said indian women are the ugliest women on earth
>>281955400he's too fat
>>281955716Made me kek.
>>281955591I liked her special guest in the last episode. Hope Toei animate her pilgrimage.
>>281955663elbaph as an arc is far from over, remember we still haven't seen the heavenly realm yet, whatever happens with imu invading the island won't be the end of the arc>>281955704>>281955728it would have completely killed the already weak momentum wano had at the end of luffy vs kaido fight, pretty much anything would have taken away the focus from such a lame ending.
>>281955761He's also eternally world famous for being a lying cunt.
why are all new world characters died like a beta? oden died for nothing, harald died for nothing, xebec will die for nothing.shit is weird that oda writes like this. pirates trust marines even though they know they’re corrupt instead of rampaging and taking the whole area hostage when it’s been known that marines never even slightly trusted pirates.
>>281955716Pajeets are ugly, yes.
please let la boa be black
>>281955238Anal.
>>281955773>heavenly realmtoo much time dilationits where giants go to die
>>281953837kill yourself twitter immigrant
>>281955429The Albatross flies for days, sometimes weeks
live action nami is cute af
>>281954374?
>>281955791Harald cucked the WG
>>281955849probably the best casting in the live action showtoo bad it's netflix race propaganda
>>281955118What a wasteLuckily Momo will carry the team with his natural strength and df
Did any of you start reading One Piece after a difficult occurrence in life?
>>281953437>would be to make the world a better place.you forgot about serial killers that just want to get paid for legal murder, and 9eople like akainu that are filled with an obsessive hate for pirates that blinds them to unrelated injustice, and people that only enlisted because they come from a military family and were given no choice, and people that just wanted to be sailors and had no other opportunities to work on a boat in their hometown except enlisting
>>281955849She looks like She can't act for shit.
>>281955890She's cute but I think Mihawk is the most like the actual character.
why havnt they tried to do a us release of the databook cards? >>281955890the dude who plays luffy kills it
>>281955941Well thank god you're not a casting agent but chief burger flipper at the 3rd largest Huntsville White Castle.
>>281955791>look a new island!>wow the surreal environment subverted our expectations>luffy befriends the one person who is the most oppressed, usually pink-haired>there's a tragic terrible tragic flashback where their tragic parent died tragically>luffy punches the bad guy and upends the local government to end his new friend's oppression
>>281953551Gal D. Ino is 3rd strongest in the verse FACT
>>281955930No but it helped me through some. I started reading when life was good, it's gone up and down since then but it has genuinely helped me.
>>281954205Shiki?!
so did anyone in his crew actually like rocks >enjoys games>oda didnt give him crewmates for scissors and paper >>281955996dont mess with a working formula
>>281955961>the dude who plays luffy kills itHe fits goofy luffy, but not tough luffy
>>281956075its not his fault netflix cuts most of the fights down
>>281956075I know what you mean but it's hard to do both IRL. If you're being retarded and ballooning up, throwing wobbly punches at clowns, it's hard to then also be a badass. One of the advantages of manga where you can somehow make it all work.
>>281952722slavery wasn't abolished though. slave labour is the backbone of the industrial-military-prison complex.
>>281956065Since he's not evil, everybody that isn't notably evil probably liked him.He seems pretty strong and charismatic to keep such a wild crew together.
I am tired of the concept of introducing an evil, bad pirate as in real life, only for it to turn out that he was just a boring family man. Stop portraying these pirates as good men, Oda, it's shit, make rocks a real COOL BAD PIRATE
>>281956131depending on the timelinemaybe he finds his dead wife and missing son and goes nuclear blackpill
>>281956124except there was clearly a few that were just along for the ride
>>281956159Whitebeard almost certainly gets his family-crew model from Rocks, and is probably who rescues Teach.
>>281952511Imu = OrochiVearth, God-King of the World = Orochi's grandfatherBuccaneers = Kozuki clan
>>281952391HEY THIS IS EVIL GUY IS TRYING TO END THE WORLD. GET HIS ASS
>>281956131I know you've never had a girlfriend or even kissed anyone. And I'm not saying that as an insult, but we both know it's true. But that out of reach thing of being in a relationship and having a family doesn't make someone a good guy. Hitler had sex, Hitler had girlfriends. You can still be anything, good, bad, psychotic, insane, and still have a gf.
>>281956256>thinks Hitler was evil
>>281956277he betrayed his motherland by putting his pursuit of power and vainglory above the interests of the common man
>>281956309he literally lifted Germany out of the depths of poverty
>>281956256I think portraying the most notorious pirate in history as someone who easily went mad over his wife’s death and then died without achieving any noticeable progress toward his ambition to rule the world is bullshit, a completely weak character who contributed nothing except giving that woman sperm to give birth to Blackbeard
>>281955476whiteness didn't exist back then
>>281956385he literally left it worse than he found it
>>281956430yeah it was really easy to get the rulers mixed up with the penis washers>>281956486read a fuckin book kiddo
>>281956524every book on post-war economics talks about how bad off germany was compared to if they hadn't tried to conquer the world and just focused on getting their shit together
>>281955761>>281955780This is the one thing he was right about.
>>281956680wow the winners of the war studied the war and concluded they were morally righteous and the losers were the bad guys?
>>281952394Israel is worse than the WG and yet anglos willingly enslave themselves to them.
>>281956793individual people in One Piece world can take down entire armies
>>281956750you're the one who tried to appeal to the authority of books
>>281952394Here are your options, as a normal middle of fucking nowhere country:1. don't affiliate and be at risk of pirate attacks or anything really. Navy doesn't care, but if they happen to be nearby maybe you'll get lucky2. pay a huge tribute and MAYBE the navy will be there to ward off pirates3. say "fuck no" to their faces and they will take you over by forcenot only that, people in general don't have all the information, basically just what the newspaper prints or travelers bringing news and gossip by word of mouth.
>>281951822He is not
