This anime only exists to poke fun at isekai and everything men like. No wonder its written by a woman
You're mentally ill
>>281999544I don't think the show is poking fun at liking underage girls at all.
>>281999582Women love age gaps
>>281999544>no isekai bait threads for a while >eceleb posts "isekai... bad!" video >suddenly isekai bait threads pop up at least daily Hello, tourist.
>>281999544>male MC is consistently the only intelligent/aware person in the room>girls are consistently retarded>several females want his dick>females are usually hot fapbait>conventionally hot male hero swordsman is comic relief>a lot of fappable scenes>top 5 comfiest isekai situations, MC is borderline immortal and lives somewhere nice-looking>"only exists to poke fun at isekai and everything men like"This is like trying to make fun of a dog by throwing pieces of beef at it.
>>281999666Satanic digits
>>281999544It's one of the few interesting isekais because it's comedy.
>>281999748You should watch MT
>>281999544>poke fun at isekaiIt's a very straightforward isekai with an emphasis on comedy.
>>281999544>No wonder its written by a womanWasn't that a lie?
>>281999544>written by a womanreally nigga?
>>281999666Is that retard still holding onto the idea that SAO is isekai, or did a second plane hit /v/irgins' childhood memories?
>>281999807funny
>>281999544>This anime only exists to poke fun at isekai and everything men like. That's reddit zero
>>281999748Aren't most isekai made today comedy? Does that one with the old man whose cheat skill is that he can order things off the internet take itself super seriously?
>>282000016They are. That guy has no idea what he is talking about. Serious Isekai like Murky eyes are far more rare.
>>281999544The anime flanderizes kazuma and darkness too much
>>282000067Most famous isekai are not about comedy arrogant prick.
>>282000669You have no idea what you're talking about. Even the Isekai that aren't a straight-up comedy are still campy as hell.
>>282000890now now, anon could be making a character error of including every classic fantasy series that includes a "transported to another world" plot device as "an isekai", or he could be a Tanyafag
It's weird that an isekai parody actually came early in the isekai boom. Konosuba was probably in the first 10 percent of 2010s-2020s isekai anime.
>isekai and everything men likeYou will never be man.
I wish they hadn't shitcanned this.
>>281999544>the best isekai is a parody of isekailove this, is this also the secret to gintama and deadpool's success?
>>282001331Lol
>>281999825Yeah, it's not a parody at all. It's a comedy isekai. It plays most cliches straight and adds comedy to them. It might have some parodic elements but the general form still treats Kazuma as a wish fulfillment protagonist behind a thin veil of his companions being difficult. It's like a standard isekai in that way, just with more jokes. The term "parody" now primarily exists so that people can allow themselves to like something in a genre they've categorized as too unsophisticated and cringe for a well adjusted adult like themselves to like, so they pretend things are parody, deconstruction, or soft seinen to give themselves permission to enjoy them.
>>282003538To clarify a bit more, it might be worth spelling out what an ACTUAL satirization of Isekai would look like: it would look like a guy getting hit by truck-kun and going to the new world with expectations of being a hero and having sexy girl companions (this is why Konosuba is a straight up isekai; Kazuma is a hero surrounded with sexy girls. Him being Scumzuma and them being cats he has to herd doesn't change that), but finding himself persecuted as a weird foreigner, and at best becoming a peasant. It would have to actually destroy the wish fulfillment aspect of isekai and be miserable, but that's not very marketable. Most people THINK they want this because they view themselves as being sophisticated and above simple unsubversive and selfish joys (this is the real reason Mushoku Tensei makes certain posters seethe btw, the "it's pedo" thing is a cloak), but the reality is that this kind of show would do very poorly. The equivalent for the soft seinen meme wouldn't be Hunter x Hunter, it would be a show where the super powered martial arts protagonist's life is put on a downward trajectory rather than an inspirational upwards trajectory, so as to subvert the power fantasy narrative of someone constantly overcoming challenges and developing more and more strength. In the first episode our protagonist would be trained up by his master, but in the second episode he gets the shit kicked out of him, is crippled for life and his master and family are killed, but he never gets revenge. The entire rest of the show is him living out a meager cowed existence, permanently owned by the antagonist who ruined his life simply because he was in the way. Again, people THINK they want to watch this kind of deconstruction, but nobody actually does. Instead they pretend that fun new twists on the same genre are fundamental subversions that are "not like your father's X". This is literally never true.Blogpost concluded.
>>281999714thisbeing a comedy makes it tolerable, but the underlying problems you listed are absolutely there and they are played straightI used to like it more, but then I realised it really is not that different from the median, it just distracts you from it
I think it's funny
>>282003873Why are those things inherently problems? Do you think wish fulfillment media is inherently bad? Should all media be educational and instructional, or are people allowed even a split second's respite from real life salary man responsibility to others? Maybe it lies on a spectrum. No one is going to say there isn't too much isekai. It's like American capeshit in that sense, but I don't see what's inherently bad about isekai being played straight on its face. A show where a character got his ass kicked every episode, never accomplished anything, and ending up increasingly crippled, diseased, and penniless by the final episode where they die over a series of weeks from infected third degree burns from a pig fat inferno would be interesting for varieties sake, but there's a reason isekai became a whole trend over that possibility.
>>282003823>what an ACTUAL satirization of Isekai would look likewhile I agree with the spirit of your blog, I don't think you really have to go all mudcore to make a parodywhat you're describing is a very dark satire, or maybe a deconstruction, I don't knowI think you could achieve a true light-hearted parody, and Konosuba anime is not actually that far away from itI think what it would need to be more self-aware about the whole harem and wish-fulfillment aspectKazuma's group is genuinely too competent, and the girls and the world in general ride his dick too muchdial down some knobs and subvert some more stuff and you could get there, I think and Konosuba does have some good parody elements the part at the beginning where they started as construction workers and got so into it they almost forgot their goals was goodthe bombastic music was amazingand then it turns out novice adventurer is a more dangerous work with worse pay that was some good subversion
>>282004285What are those two parts subverting from typical isekai though? The idea that adventuring would be the most obvious and first outcome of landing in the new world?Is the thing about being a novice adventurer having worse pay really a subversion or just a joke? I'm not being deliberately contrarian, but how much of that is it being a comedy, and jokes tending to rely on upending expectations versus the actual narrative subversion that typically gets things called subversive? If it was really subversive they'd go back to construction work halfway through the show and the whole rest of the show would be a construction site anime.
>>281999544That's because Isekai is fucking garbage and based Akatsuki-san knows that.
>>282004113>Why are those things inherently problems? Do you think wish fulfillment media is inherently bad? Should all media be educational and instructional, or are people allowed even a split second's respite from real life salary man responsibility to others?I never said thatI do have some problems with wish fulfillment media, but that's my personal preferencebut people like to claim that konosuba is completely different because it's a comedy, and I think that's objectively wrongI mean it is humorous, but underneath it's still the same shitonce I've seen the vaguely pathetic wish fulfillment logic and realised it permeates the whole plot, it did sour the series to me
>>282004448can't really tell you with such fine detail to be honestmaybe it was because I've first seen it very long ago, back when isekais were much less varied and gimmick-ridden than today, so it was fresh to meultimately I'm going by personal impression>Is the thing about being a novice adventurer having worse pay really a subversion or just a joke?I would say subversion because it's a consistent theme and not just a one-off
Is escapism really all that bad?
>>282005026It's only bad if it inteferes with your productiver healthy life with your high powered finance job, beautiful wife and kids, rather than being a pressure valve.Although even then if you're a genetic dud it shouldn't matter either. Isekai is hated for being uncreative normalgroid slop but fundamentally it exists due to otaku hikki impulses. Ofc this final wave of anime popularization exists because the leeching of vitality from developed economies is turning normalnogs into hikkis too, and covid kicked off a boom in escapism because everyone was a worthless NEET trapped inside apart from "essential workers", so the covid remote workers got to wear the stolen valor of lifelong losers.
>>281999544Congratulations, you didn’t like a show. What do you want, a participation trophy?
>>282003823>Him being Scumzuma and them being cats he has to herd doesn't change that), but finding himself persecuted as a weird foreigner, and at best becoming a peasant. It would have to actually destroy the wish fulfillment aspect of isekai and be miserable, but that's not very marketable.That does exist, it's called zero no tsukaima season 1
>>282007040ZnT isn't really an isekai thoughyes, I know, he's transported to another world and that's literally what isekai means, you're very cleverbut it's much more in line with older anime that were a more straightforward fantasyin fact it might predate the genre in its current formso I wouldn't count it as a parodyalso whatshisface never got any cheat skills if memory serves
>>282007243I get your argument. But I have to reject it because that's one hell of an ex post facto rule.But it is a rather bastard child of battle harem and isekai. Of course it was obviously never intended to be a parody and it's in line with wish fulfillment anime, it just struck me as funny for a moment how it has parodical aspects despite being the most unsubversive.
>>282007243I would have to consider Zero no Tsukaima an isekai because the "transported to another world" thing is just too major not to, it's just a very old one that spiritually is a 90s anime and has none of the 10s-20s isekai tropes and trappings.
>AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE AQUA SAMA I AM SORRY
>>282007532the "transported to another world" plot device and the genre of "an isekai" are different things though; the isekai genre is derived from fanfiction based on Familiar of Zero and doesn't necessarily have to include the "transported to another world" plot device at all
>>282007040I agree ZnT is definitely an isekai, but the anime is clearly wish fulfilment for submissive males who like to be dommed by bossy women. A real subversion couldn't have pretty girls in it at all. Otherwise someone could possibly glean some wish fulfillment from it. No attractive boys or men in case queers could be happy. The character would land in an isekai world where everyone is beyond hideous looking.
>>281999544I only care about poking Darkness with my dick
>>282007709That's interesting. I'm not too knowledgeable on this topic but it's cool that Zero no Tsukaima was so influential. I think I watched it in 2009 so it was still modern.
>>282007709Yeah of course they are different things, else Spirited Away would be an Isekai. But znt did meet the genre conventions so
>>281999544>>281999663Natsumi (the writer) is a fucking guy
>>281999544Why do you care who wrote it? Faggot.
>>282008154Bear with me but who the fuck names their son natsume. This all reads to me as an open lie that went out of control
>>282007482>>282007532aye, fair enough, I can't dispute thatits main genre is "Rie Kugimiya heroine" anyway
>>282008640A genre that disappeared after Spring 2011. Where were you when Rie Kugumiya was kill.
