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Chapter 1: The Dream of the Crystal Palace (Part 1)
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Hi OP
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Meido!
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Yo yo yo
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I see a beautiful, beautiful autistic lady
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What a woman
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And that's it. This couple is pretty cute.
Are you saving up for anything?
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>>282010221
Extremely cute story
Nothing in particular
Thanks as always OP!
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>>282010221
Thanks OP
Living expenses
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>>282009923
You don't need to halve your food for one week. Just reduce it slightly for two
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>>282010219
Kelly is tied best girl in the whole manga.
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>>282010296
With who
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>>282010221
Thanks OP. I'm really bad at budgeting so no.
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>>282010314
Do you really need to ask?
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>>282010314
Vivian
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>>282010408
Shut up, Vivi, and go back to your room. Nobody likes you, they just want to spank you. You constantly cause problems for Grace and despite wanting to be a little princess you're very unladylike. I was talking about Mrs. Molders, who is a better woman than you can even conceive of.
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fuck off
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was this page necessary
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>>282010314
You know who
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>DOUG
FASTER
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*chair clatteing*
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At first, I thought she was going to murder him.
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>>282010221
chuuu
Thanks, OP.
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>>282010221
Nice. Assuming you can get away with it, there's nothing better than forcing a surprise kiss on someone.
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>>282010221
>sudden kiss
Women mangaka always have this and it's always so good
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>>282009842
This motherfucker decided in his 20's to be a drunk all his life.
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/v/ right now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_THdzBnHy0
>>282010206
cute wife
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thanks, OP. I'm about to leave on two week's holiday on Tuesday, so it's all ready to come out
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>>282012466
town drunk isn't a glamorous job but it's an honest one
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Bless this gremlin.
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How much is a shilling anyway
I always thought it meant small loose change
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>>282009856
He says about a woman he will pine for much of a century.
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>>282010221
Emma's adoptive mom was cute. CUTE.
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>>282016591
According to googling a shilling is 1/20 of a pound and a pound in 1960 adjusted for inflation is £155.38 today so about 31 pounds or 41.67usd. Although I did fail math.
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>>282017027
>Londonflation has increased prices 150X over the last 65 years
I sure hope you failed math
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>>282017290
Oh sorry that's 1850
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>>282010221
Thanks, anonsito.
for a house.
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>>282017395
Thank the Queen, I almost tossed my biscuits
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>>282011062
Best girl
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>>282010408
Why are niggers so anti-vivi?
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>>282010221
Thanks OP.
It's funny, how much less (in hours of work needed, not in absolute numbers) many things cost than 170 years ago, but still many people are at the end of their money each month...
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>>282009750
Extremely confused by the timeline. Kelly was born in 1938 and the Great Exhibition took place in 1951. There is no way she is 13 during this chapter.
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>>282010221
the fact the Bongs still haven't rebuilt the Crystal Palace is a testament to how far they've fallen
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How much did a middle class journalist make in the 1850s to be able to afford a townhouse like this? Was this actually the case? Was housing that much more affordable back then? Are they just living beyond their means? Where on the totem pole of "middle class" does a journalist even land?

Also, very neat detail here where you can really see the corset shape under the dress. IIRC the bust was a lower/more natural during this era than it was during later in the century too.
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>Kelly was born in 1838
Where was that mentioned?
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>about two and a half days worth of food for the tickets
That sounds quite cheap and they don't look that badly off. How much would Doug be making at the time?
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>>282020594
I guess she lied to everyone about her age in her older years lmao.
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She says that she married at 18 here so Mori really just made a little boo-boo there. Probably realized it too since the next time the graves were shown they didn't have any dates on them, I believe.
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She insist upon herself
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Vivi should get everything she wants
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>>282010206
i wonder if otoyomegatari is actually better or if i'm just dazzled by all the patterns and age gap marriage
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>>282010221
Douglas was too pure for this world...
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>>282021352
Henry didn't make me nearly as mad as William so that's a plus.
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>>282021538
To be fair, Henry's parents are spineless so he can basically do whatever he wants, while Will actually had to face consequences if he acted out.
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>>282021568
Henry's mom is a bitch but his dad seems fairly normal and possibly secretly impressed he bagged a cute steppe waifu
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>>282020808
>she only had that nice young lad for 2 years
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>>282021352
I think Otoyomegatari is a fair bit better. All the couples (barring Henry and Talas perhaps) have excellent chemistry and the art is Mori at her absolute peak. The story is also quite ambitious, encompassing so many different lives and cultures. It's pretty much going to be Mori's magnum opus once it's finished.
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>>282012466
You could have just said he's british.
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>>282021998
Otoyome isn't over at this point so my opinion might change, but I personally like Emma better because it has a better overarching story thread that helps keep things cohesive. Otoyome often times feels more like an anthology series rather than a solid plot, with only Henry providing something of a link between the all the different couples, though even he's gone back home now.
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>>282021840
Knowing that they ended up having such a short amount of time together is really making me tear up while reading this story
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>>282021998
I actually like the Henry/Talas chapters the most and Amir/Karluk the least
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>>282021538
>William
Who did what?
>>282021998
I guess it is more well balanced, she shuffles the lines well and i care way more about the characters there.
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>>282022097
>Otoyome isn't over at this point so my opinion might change
the only way Otoyo can be worse is if Mori pulls a
>and then the Russians kill everyone
ending
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>>282021998
>barring Henry and Talas perhaps
Why?
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>>282022578
> and then the russians kill everyone
even if it ends nicely, it'll at least be on the cusp of that mess which will basically ruin everyones lives except for Henry and Talas who fucked off early enough.
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>>281989850
>there was a very very cute eleanor scene that was anime only. the one about the umbrella, involving her cute feet.
Which episode?
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>>282022762
even in Emma, I can sort of turn my brain off and headcanon everyone escapes WW1 and 2 unscathed but in Otoyo, everyone is fucked from being under the boot of the Tsar, then WW1, then the Civil War and then capping off the misery with the Soviets and Stalin
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Otoyome includes a lot more ominous foreshadowing than Emma did about future conflicts, especially in the chapters where Henry finally decided that he needed to leave without seeing Amir/Karluk again because the skirmishes were getting too dangerous, as well as the chapters of Azel and bros marriages where they were only really arranged because they want to unite the clans to try and push back the russians.
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I've harboured a lingering dread over the years that Mori might be building up to an absolutely gut wrenching ending as Henry returns years later to find everyone gone. She probably laments the loss of all those cultures and people during the great game and wants to drive home just how much is lost over pointless conflicts. Sure it's not her style but why did she have to set the story in such a turbulent period? ;_;
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I really don't know how to put it better into words. I like them as a couple but their interactions feel more reserved? too polite? I don't know, but I feel the same way about Emma and William. Sure everything surrounding their romance is excellent but the actual romance feels lacking compared to the other Mori couples.
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>Henry's grandson goes back to his grandma's homeland to find the nomads settled, everyone in commieblocks and the Aral Sea dried up
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I feel you on that, feels like even now there's a bit of an issue between the both of them not really knowing how to best interact with each other due to their differences in culture/lack of understanding in the each others culture.

Talas in general is also just kind of a reserved person, so even though Henry clearly wants to have a nice relationship with her and get closer, he doesn't really know how to go about it since the only things he really knows she likes are her horse and just.. being around animals, I guess.
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OBJECTIVELY the most beautiful Mori girl.
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>>282023524
Eh, I'm more partial to Dorothea
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She's a close second.
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:(
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>>282023524
Maria would be first if she wasn't such a slag
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>OBJECTIVELY the most beautiful Mori girl
is Aurelia
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>>282021568
The key different is Henry isn't the first son. Also, while Henry's a bit scatter brained, their reaction to him showing up with a foreign wife makes it clear he's frequently more decisive and capable of making his own way in life. He has a clear plan and goal, even if he doesn't often think about how his friends and family will take it. And, yeah, that's kind of because they will just go along with it.

>Henry's friend: I AM NOT GOING TO HELP YOU ANYMORE!!
>next page
>Henry's friend goes with him to Scotland to be a witness for the marriage
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>>282022099
There's a great bit in the next chapter I didn't catch the previous times I read it, but is very powerful if you understanding the implication.
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>>282024100
Well, even if they don't help him, Henry would do it anyways. Henry could have easily introduced Talas as his maid or whatever and she probably would accept it, being from a polygamous culture, but he kept it real with his family from day 1 rather than just flakily proposing marriage to Eleanor.
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>>282024134
I was more commenting about how Will's family is more strict both because he's the first son, and has obligations to them that his love life will fuck up, and it's kind of clear Will's not great with actually making things happen. The character development he gets is to be more decisive and more committed to long term goals.

Whereas, for all Henry Smith fucks around, his parents are probably more lenient because he at least seems like an independent adult without the obligations of an heir who may do odd things, but does them properly and can support himself. What the fuck was Will gonna do if he did get kicked out? Meanwhile Henry has his writing and quickly planned, or already did I don't recall, to live outside the sphere of British high society when he brought Talas back.
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>>282024134
>denied Talas in a maid outfit
fuck you Henry
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>>282022880

>even in Emma, I can sort of turn my brain off and headcanon everyone escapes WW1 and 2 unscathed

It's one thing to survive the World Wars, it's another to continue your way of life afterward. The Molders are going to be treated like criminals at worst because they're German and they're going to be attached to the hip with the Joneses.
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>>282024561
There's always migrating to the States like many German families did. What out to the Turkestanis in Otoyo have when the Russians come calling?
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>>282010221
Cute kiss. I love the way his hands are almost enveloping her head.
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>>282016591
a shilling is 1/20 of a pound
after decimalisation in 1971 when they changed from 240 pence per pound to 100p per pound, it became 5p
and I think also a guinea was 21 shillings, they loved their weird measures
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https://www.royalmintmuseum.org.uk/journal/history/pounds-shillings-and-pence/
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>>282016591
>The eccentric currency of a fallen empire. One penny is four farthings, twelve pence are one shiling, and so on
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>>282023332
The dorky, socially inept English gentleman is a trope that Mori really likes....
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>>282014314
It's dirty work, but someone's gotta do it.
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>>282011957
Sudden kisses are a must. I'd love to get one.
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>I'd love to get one.
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>>282020510
You could get a room that's too big for you by selling flowers in the street somehow.
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>>282010094
I imagine it was pure fairy tales. Museums then weren't what they are now.
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Whatever path leads to Mori drawing hornier series is the one I support.
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>>282032546
I could paint you a nice picture, I'm not engaging with that stupid gutter speak.
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This Anon >>282023637 is right. It's not even up for debate.
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>>282032873
It's actually Tasha.
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>>282023524
Well it looks like the one thing everyone can agree on is that it's not Emma
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>>282009655
Chapter 2: The Dream of the Crystal Palace (Part 2)
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Hey OP
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Heyo
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And that's it. How beautiful and tragic.
Been to any museums lately?
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>>282037823
Doug... FASTER... ;_;7
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Thanks, OP. No.
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COMICALLY expensive fish

>>282037616
Cute

>>282037823
NOOOOOOO

>>282037852
At least he got to see the exhibition before he died. He was a very good man
No
Thanks as always OP!
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The Full Moon watchalong will start in about 3 hours. We will watch CITY half an hour before that
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>>282037852
Amazing chapters, she was the best girl all along, next to Mori
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>>282024208
Henry's mother is absolutely not more lenient, she went full racist the moment she found out. Henry is dead to her.
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>>282037567
>exquisite jewelry like this isn't reality
Wonder what she'll think when she starts teaching upper class kids.
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Cute bonnet
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>>282037440
What a shame this woman only got her bridal happiness for two years
What a shame this man passed so soon after making it
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>>282037483
Imagine being some London dipshit in the 19th century, and the coolest thing you ever saw was some dogs shagging outside the pub, and going in there
Truly, we're spoiled in this modern era
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>>282037616
I love these two
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>>282037630
Kelly cares only for the veil of Maya...
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>>282038676
Yeah there was a lot more I’m going away for a month to see something cool and hopefully not die back then
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>>282037720
I can really feel Mori's passion for drawing beautiful things for the sake of drawing beautiful things here
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Fuck...
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>>282037852
Beautiful story
Anyway thanks OP
Not in over a year
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Good God the palace was huge
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This is going to be a really dumb question but how did old people like Kelly survive after they retired if they had no children? Did the bongs already have a pension system back then or did she have to save up all the money she had from teaching cocky rich boys? She certainly had enough money to pay Emma a salary despite not owning her home (she would've left it to Emma otherwise I think).
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>>282037616
All I really want is to annoy a beautiful woman
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>>282037852
>Been to any museums lately?
Not in a while, no. My wife likes art museums a lot but hasn't been feeling up to going for a while. We're trying to ha e a kid though so when we do I plan on taking them to a lot of museums as often as possible.
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>>282037616
Based Douglas.
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I was in Douglas once. It was pleasant enough, even visited a museum there
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>>282039193
For the most part your children were your retirement plan. She probably had saved up money. Bismarck introduced the first pension system in the 1880's. Some people back then had pensions due to specific jobs, ie, soldiers, etc. Kelly probably had money saved up because of her work as an upper class governess.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Poor_Laws#New_Poor_Law
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>>282038676
To an extent, this was still the same later. If you would have told my grandmother in her youth that she would fly to Madeira in her late years or that she would live to see her grandkids travelling to Chile, Japan or the United states, she would probably have had a laugh at you. That was simply unthinkable for "normal" people at that time.
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>>282039927
>Bismarck introduced the first pension system in the 1880
Bismarck? As in the ultra-conservative gigachud?
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>>282040388
You have a hell of a lot to learn about politics
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>>282040388
You heard that right. He literally came up with the idea to pull the rug under the socialists and kill their momentum.
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>>282040388
Surely not Bismarck the Japanese shipgirl, anon.
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Yes. In 1880's Germany, Bismarck had two serious threats to his power. The socialist SPD party and the Catholic Zentrum party. For various reasons, he had to ally with one against the other and he chose to ally the SPD to fight Zentrum. What this meant is that Bismark passed a compromise labor bill and in return the SPD backed some policy (I forget which, but something anti-Catholic)
Lenin hated this, btw. He saw it as a betrayal of the workers movement because the labor bill didn't go far enough and the SPD renounced violent revolution. This sentiment was instrumental in the development of Lenin's vanguard party

But ultimately, this isn't a thread about late 1800's Germany, so I'll leave it here
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>>282039176
They don't make them like they used to
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>>282039927
She must've saved up quite a lot.
When she was young she had to starve herself to see an exhibition, and in her old days she was able to live alone in a townhouse and hire a maid (Emma probably didn't earn much, but clothing and food cost as well).
Probably the rise of agricultural productivity brought down relative food prices a lot.
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>>282037705
she's so fucking pretty
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>>282039193
Before pensions were a thing, most homeless people were just elderly people who had spent all their money. So someone in her position would be reliant on savings and/or family
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I wish I had a wife
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Your hand would hurt
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>>282042714
I wouldn't hit her that hard
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>>282037408
Crystal Palace was the world's first modular building.

I've been in the Dallas Informart building, which was inspired by it. I was no fan of the clear floor spans at the top of escalators.
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>>282037616
This based man only had 2 years the world is not fair.
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>>282037852
Thanks, anonsito.
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>>282037764
They fucked that night
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>>282037852
I cried like a bitch when i read this two weeks ago
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>>282037852
Sadly no but this chapter reminded me of the trip I spent like 5 days wandering the albert and vitctoria museum. Great place
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There's more!?
The world has become a brighter place.
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>>282038384
She can bitch and moan but clearly has no power in the family nor the ability to persuade the father to actually do anything to punish Henry or even try to properly talk him out of it.
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>>282041850
Also she had some pretty high class clients when she was a governess, probably had a great reputation that afforded her higher pay.

Though yeah, I highly doubt Emma was being paid a standard maids rate anyway.
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>>282037601
Something I learned recently was that the potato took a while to catch on in Victorian England because it wasn't seen as real food. There was a north/south divide where the north ate more potatoes because they had more Irish there, while the south ate bread. Not sure about the timeline of this, but I imagine the potato was still seen as lesser in the 1850s.
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>>282045898
I guess it was common to pay a maid in training less or nothing at all.
I once saw a film that was rather realistic in these matters,where an old lady had a lady's maid in training, whom she paid nothing. Other servants in a house they visited told the maid that this was the oldest trick in the book, and that her mistress was an old miser.
Emma on the other hand did get a lot in return from Kelly, even if she had worked completely for free, which I doubt.
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>>282042732
You should use a belt, anyway.
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>>282046691
I heard the same of Prussia, where the king wanted to introduce the new crop for its better yields, but the people were sceptical.
So he had his personal guard regiment guard the fields where they were planted and made a point of being seen eating potatoes often.
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>>282037823
>"it's once in a life time opportunity"
>they actually rebuild the place a year later
>but by then Douglas is too sick to go anymore
>so it really was a once in a lifetime opportunity
This got me when I reread it recently. Especially since if you compare it to Emma, her life will also change radically in just a few months. Had she and Will not made more of a connection during that scant time, their lives would've been completely different.

Let this be a lesson to anons. Take that chance, even if you might think you have plenty of time. No telling what might happen in a year.
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>>282040757
The US did something similar: FDR argued you had to make the socialist/communist agitators less attractive and the easiest way to do this was simply to enact compromise policies that addressed what most people were concerned about, therefore completely defanging the appeal of the more radical ideologues.
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>>282045898
Another factor might be the short length of her retirement.
I don't know whether I get the timeline right, but I guess she retired around the time she hired Emma and she employed her for approximately 5 years before she died.
But she also did not leave much inheritance in the story: The house was rented, Emma got a dress, and there didn't seem to be other heirs.
Maybe a former employer let her live in the house or paid for her retirement. It's probably cheaper to offer such a contract and "bet" on an early death, instead of paying her enough to cover the "risk" of her living until age 100. Also, if your income is from land ownership, small, regular payments over a long time are easier to do than higher payments over a shorter period.
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>>282047407
Definitely an overlooked detail from Mori: Kelly would have written a letter of recommendation or otherwise secured Emma's future employment before passing.
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>>282047897
>I won't leave Emma any option but to go crying to Will to support her
>what's she going to do, runaway back home with no money and no job?
Too clever by half, Kelly
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>>282047897
Her death was kind of sudden, she may have expected to live longer at the least. And it would be weird if Emma had asked for a letter of recommendation while she was busy with the preemptive mourning that she ended up doing.
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All this political stuff is too hard for me to comprehend i understand spanking girls way better if happy I live in this world.
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>>282048481
She was clearly sick for a while though, knowing how sudden death could be is more the reason she could've written a letter beforehand. Domestic servants can be hired through a variety of avenues, but it generally goes personal recommendation > written recommendation > classifieds. Procuring the job security of a girl she cared about was the very least she could do. It's just something Mori had overlooked.
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>>282048845
Wasn't this even an issue, when she started to work for the Möllders?
IIRC they only overlooked her lack of references, because they were so extremely short-staffed.
Kelly definitely could've (and would've, given her character - she was a very organized woman) done it while she was already bedridden.
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I just want to say that, out of the eight storytimes I'm currently following, this one has, in my opinion, brought forth the most interesting and informative discussions. That's why I'm dreadings its end.
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>>282037616
That's it. Doug best boy. He loves his wife and loves teasing her.
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>>282037408
Richard and Aurelia also visited the Crystal Palace with their kids. I hope we see that too.
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Friedrich II, yes. He also regularly travelled the country and visited farmers on their fields to see how it was going.
People still occasionally lay potatoes on his grave in Potsdam.
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>>282038676
>Can see dogs shaggings anytime I want now
Better times indeed.
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>>282050539
Hopefully OP will follow up with Otoyomegatari after this.
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>>282036206
Emma is an angel but she's up against literal goddesses.
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>>282052174
He said he won't
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>>282037823
such is life in victorian england...
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>>282039176
That is a lot of cash for glaziers.
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I did it.
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I KNEEL
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>>282009764
SMITH??
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>>282053564
Wonderful.
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>fasted
>ate potatoes
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Why are you all so mean to Vivi? She's done nothing wrong
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>>282053564
Holy fuck
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>>282054526
They're jealous.
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>>282054526
The only thing she did right was be spankable
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>>282046691
Oats were horse feed until a certain ad campaign to sell them to poors as better than no breakfast.
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>>282055966
The history of breakfast food gets weird fast once you go down the religious aspect of plain foods rabbit hole.
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>>282047045
When they tried that with corn in Europe the church resisted it with some originally absurd claims about wheat.
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>>282053564
the good stuff
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>>282009764
Henry's come to see us!
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>>282053564
Nice one, anon.
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>>282056546
And then there's breakfast cereals from the early 1900s originally being not only associated with Seventh-Day Adventists, but with a sanitarium health food craze.
I gotta say though, they're quite yummy. Maybe too much so, they're probably what most made me overweight.
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>>282052627
Aww :(
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>>282057749
Yup that's it exactly. Fucking love my corn flakes tho.
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>>282056978
The church also tried to convince people that potatoes and tomatoes were un-Christian
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i am now aware of kaoru mori and her works.

very nice
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>>282058000
Tomatoes were partly because of the leaves actually being toxic and some hack fraud botanists deciding that the whole plant must be toxic and classifying it as a Deadly Nightshade since it also happened to sort of resemble belladonna and its berries, since at the time the average tomato was much smaller than our modern cultivars.
The Italians had adopted them fairly quickly since their hack fraud botanist had classified it both as a Nightshade and a Mandrake, so they thought it was partly poison partly aphrodisiac much like how they considered the eggplant.
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>>282055966
Only Southerners thought that just horses and Scots ate oats, but the fact was it was the mainstay crop in EVERY upland area of the British Isle because wheat was not as reliable on some Yorkshire fellside which had a harsher climate and weather than anything the lowlands and South had, and where communities/households were frequently in isolated area.

Now the uplands are all pasture but until a few decades ago they were mixed farms, and before the introduction of cheap mass produced bread, and supermarkets, oats were still a dietary staple in Northern England, Wales, Scotland (and maybe around Dartmoor & Exmoor too).
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>>282053564
Someone needs to show Mori.
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>>282059255
Maybe Shirley would change my mind, but I haven't really gotten the impression that she's much of a lolicon
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>>282059312
If anything she's the opposite and a hag enjoyer, or at least a cake enjoyer.
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>>282059352
Some of the bunny girls get old indeed.
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>>282059312
Shirley is more of a cute daughter or little sister type of story and character than a lolicon's daughter or little sister sort of story or character.
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>>282053564
You are a hero making the world a better place with this.
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>>282059499
How do I hire a 13 year old English maid
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>>282059312
If she loves that past and England she probably also likes the long history of girls being spanked in Europe. Maybe she wants to be a Victorian maid getting punished herself by a rich handsome landowner too.
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>>282048845
Mori did have a letter of introduction/recommendation included as a story element in a one shot that was in the first volume of Shirley, though I guess that would have been around a year after Emma had started so maybe it's something that she noticed shortly after
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>>282059848
Though it was also a story about a goofy prank loving kind of guy as their employer so he had written the butler's but not the maid's and wrote the butler's with him as a full associate with hiring powers rather than just a normal butler.
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>>282053564
Great.
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>>282057679
>How can I do this to Hina without dying....
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>>282053564
hot
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>>282057679
I miss the wet couch spanking.
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>>282009655
Chapter 3: Brighton by the Sea (Part 1)
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bonjour
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>>282063792
Hi OP
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ciao
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>>282063806
She looks like an Alice
Pretty
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>>282064208
UHHHH
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And that's it. Cute sisters.
Do you put your foot in your mouth often?
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>>282064076
Finally the other sister makes an appearance
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>>282064246
Thanks, OP. Nyo.
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>>282063971
Maybe love is still possible for our girl
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>>282064246
what a fag, i guess eleanor is just not lucky with men.
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>>282063971
he's literally me
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>>282064246
Thanks OP
I don't think so, but I may well be wrong
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>>282064246
This poor girl will never marry
Yes
Thanks as always OP!
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>>282064714
But she's already married to me?
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>>282064076
>Eleanor will be the only non titled member of her family
lmao. Girl can't catch a break. Really doesn't deserve all this suffering.
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>>282053564
Heh nice, Vivi getting what she deserves. Splendid work. Thanks drawfag. I'll be honest, I probably won't get off to this. Just appreciate and find amusing. Is that Arthur spanking her?
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>>282063833
Why are these cabanas on wheels?
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>>282064246
Thanks OP
I wish I could put Eleanor's foot in my mouth
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>>282064860
woah, are you me?
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>>282065757
So ladies can get in dry shod, and then emerge where they have deep enough water to swim - a modesty thing.
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>>282066961
>footfags
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>>282064361
You have a butler named after the German word for "fast"?
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>>282063792
Bright-ON, BEACH!
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>>282064246
>Do you put your foot in your mouth often?
Metaphor, I hope?
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>>282063971
>Mori went out of her way to make a romance for the loser girl
Mori's a kind woman after all. Still a disgusting pervert, though.
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>>282064246
I like how he's not spineless. He's right, he has no reason to feel guilty for what happened. He behaved politely and congenially and as soon as Eleanor spoke up about it, he stopped politely too.
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>>282064186
>Know them? Why, they're my parents!
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>>282069234
>disgusting pervert
She's a wonderful pervert
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>>282055434
I don't think anyone should fault Vivi for this moment. She was unironically in the right.
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>>282065589
It's anyone really, I wasn't thinking on someone specific, could be (you).
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any nudity?
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>>282071044
Lots
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>>282064246
Thanks, anonsito.
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>>282064076
High class girls are on a level of their own.
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>>282064132
>Already giving him the look
Good thing the first sister is here.
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>>282064186
They're not cute, they're sexy!
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>>282065589
>Is that Arthur spanking her?
You know why she never slides down the railing in front of Richard?
Now you know.
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>>282053564
This makes me be able to finish the rest of the series with hope and happiness in my heart.
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>>282072140
I wonder if they'll balloon like their mother later in life?
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>>282064076
ENTER
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>>282063869
>Oh no we're gonna get we
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>>282073662
It's more the wind and lightning that they're worried about, though some probably are worried about hair getting wet when they didn't want it to.
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>>282063934
imagine if he fell in love with Annie
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>>282072308
I asked if it was Arthur because he wears a bow tie
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>>282063889
>have you heard? It seems Miss Campbell, the Viscount's daughter, was caught alone with a half-naked young buck at the beach
>*gasps maliciously*
>is that why the young Jones heir...? Did he know, about her proclivities?

>>282064076
>...but is it truly surprising given her family's reputation?
>I heard her sister, the Countess, fornicates with foreign men from the colonies while dressed a la Grande Odalisque!
>*gasps indignantly*
>and that her husband, the Count, not only knows about it but has done nothing to stop her!
>*gasps exponentially*
>which sister is the one?
>does it matter? They are all cut from the same cloth.

And there, just like that Eleanor shall NEVER EVER get married thanks to Annie and Monica's combined efforts!
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>>282053564
Naked Vivi version when?
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>>282068043
>You have a butler named after the German word for "fast"?
Is this fucking Frieren?
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>>282069234
Kindness and perversion often go hand in hand.
A decent woman is often too busy keeping her demons of perversion at bay to actually be kind.
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>>282067189
Ah, OK - thanks.
So they used all this beautiful beach in Brighton just to haul little houses on wheels back and forth?
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>>282076268
The dress and bloomers add a lot to it I think. It highlights the exposed butt and will draw eyes to it make Vivi more embarrassed.
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>>282069234
Not a single one of her (known) fetishes is disgusting.
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>>282068043

And an actual surname to boot:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnell
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>>282076963
Can we at least remove her boots and socks?
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>>282063971
Male Emma.
>>282069234
There's already too many losing heroines.
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>>282010221
There be handholding tonight.
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>>282037567
Based wife.
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>>282079374
>Male Emma
True.
Being so cucked that the next person interested in you looks exactly like the girl who took your first lover.
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>>282063833
Did people really go in the water in their clothes, shoes and all?
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>>282079753
I'm pretty sure that's what the bathing suits of the time looked like. Outside the beach, such a skirt length was considered too short for a woman.
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>>282037852
>Been to any museums lately?
A little less than a year ago. I usually don't travel but I was in another country for something and I had the opportunity to do some sightseeing by myself. Have we lost our sense of wonder in such a globalized and connected world? The Crystal Palace must have been truly awe-inspiring to visitors. All of those magnificent attractions from all over the world, including places that most people would only hear about. I can only imagine how life-changing that experience was. When I was sightseeing, almost all the tourists were only concerned with taking photos and selfies then immediately moving on to the next thing. They weren't taking any time to slow down and appreciate what was before them. What the fuck did they even come here for? I was genuinely disgusted.
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>>282064171
Isn't the number too high for the time?
How many engagements were considered too much before getting a ruined reputation?
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>>282070308
>She was unironically in the right.
In that scene, absolutely.

>>282079753
This -is- their swimwear, not normal clothes.
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Japanese-made Postcard from Kiautschou to Germany around 1905 (so even later), showing what was considered modern, Europe-inspired swimwear around that time (pre Meiji restauration most people would just swim in a loincloth or naked).
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>>282073322
Sexy whore on the right
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>>282080708
Not a patch on Dorothea though.
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>>282080144
>the west has been de-fanservicing Japan for over one hundred years
damn, how deep does this globalist conspiracy go?!
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>>282080144
I think that I'd go to the beach more often if people still dressed like this.
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>>282069234
>>Mori went out of her way to make a romance for the loser girl
Eleanor is a good girl, she deserves some happiness too.
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>>282064246
If ever a boy needed to travel. Jeez.
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>>282068397
You'll never learn English.
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>>282079753
Victorians were famously mad and hated their own bodies.
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>>282081009
Technically it was Jews who wrote about the snake and the apple. Damn fools didn't tame a mongoose.
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>>282072140
on a CLASS of their own
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>>282074830
>dressed a la Grande Odalisque!
isn't she naked
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>>282064246
Thank you for posting.
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>>282063971
Eleanor deserves happiness
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>>282084496
For what? Being born to nobles?
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>>282064246
She needs someone willing to stand up to pops, so this is a good sign.
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>>282084579
For being cute
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>>282084579
For being a nice young girl who treats others well.
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>>282081009
A major thing to remember with this is that Buddhism isnt nearly as harsh on sex as a concept as other religions are. Its not pro sex or anything but compared to others its not as anti nudity others were.
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>>282081009
Blame Christianity
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>>282084579
Fuck off communist
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>>282084768
They just import the Hindu instruction manual on how to get good at (over with) sex.
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>>282084768
Neither was Shinto.
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>>282009655
Ty op
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>>282084768
Body shame is barbarian insecurity. That's why it became so huge in England.
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>>282086816
But their history involves getting buck naked to fight. Which we should bring back, by the way.
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>>282086842
That's Greek history. Barbarians always walking around in crude loin cloths or stolen clothes, trying not to look at their enemy's dick.
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I don't know man.
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Top Husband ranking
1.German moustache
2. 2 year Doug
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Fuck
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>>282080144
At least they weren't going in the water in their shoes
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>>282083113
yes but rumors tend to exaggerate things
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>>282090520
It’s hard to tell sometimes
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>>282037422
The oldest job there has ever been
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>>282090718
That's not Maria's escort service.
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>>282037616
Nice
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>>282037823
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>282037852
Thanks OP
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>>282084812
Blame Meiji for wanting to make Japan like Europe

>>282087078
pp
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Chapter 4: Brighton by the Sea (Part 2)
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Tiny bit early today
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Hi OP
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God I fucking hate Eleanor
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And that's it. This girl is so easy.
How do you make a move?
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>>282092145
Does this strategy work
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>>282092335
>lighter manterial
This fucking SLUT.
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>>282092145
Dude read the room

>>282092335
Well I hope this time it goes better for her
How am I supposed to know...
Thanks as always OP!
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You can vote for the next watchalong if you wish
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3prOoyA
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>>282092311
Angelic
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>>282092319
The best way is to just add an s
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>>282092185
>horny Frenchman out of nowhere
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>>282092335
Thanks OP
I'm probably the wrong person to ask
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>>282092032
>Schnell
>Liebe
It's really Frieren.
But with the difference that these are actual - if uncommon - names.
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>>282092467
Just swam through the channel to molest British maids.
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>>282092055
comfy despite the awkward silence

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>>282092162
never mind, these two should just shut up and enjoy the scenery.
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>>282092335
Thanks OP. I do a 360 and walk away.
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>>282092421
Where do I watch the watchalong?
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>>282093120
>>282037897
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>>282092185
>Oui oui hon hon baguette eiffel tower
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>>282093298
Merci buku
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>>282093303
>no croissant
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>>282093913
Kuwa son?
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>>282092421
>>282093120
A Welcome to the NHK watchalong would be a great time
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>>282092359
>Dude read the room
They're outside tho
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>>282092305
god I fucking hate you
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>>282092335
>How do you make a move?
So.... do you watch anime?
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>>282092335
Thanks, OP. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>282037897


>the true antagonist of full moon wo sagashite
The anime finale was a trip
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>>282096578
Her cancer was truly an unspoken character.
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>>282096578
is that evil teto
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>>282092335
Eleanor is so easy you could seduce her even if you were a goat-fucking famer plebeian
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>>282093010
> 360
> walk away
As a friend once said to me, "I hope you drive better than you walk."
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>>282092421
Where's Aho Girl?
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>>282098408
Aho
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>>282092335
Thanks, anonsito.
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>>282092335
See Eleanor is fine. Fiiiiiiiiine.
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>>282037555
mori drew enough girls for all the anons in the thread.... she's too good for us bros...
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>>282037852
I go to museums alone and feel nothing but jealousy over artists better than me
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>>282092199
>you see that mountain?
>we should climb that
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>>282092199
wtf there ain't no fucking mountains around brighton
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>>282064246
He's right. It was something wrong with her, not himself.
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>>282103315
Yeah. She's not a geography nerd, we've figured as much.
The Atlantic is a small lake that can be crossed on a shady steamer....
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>>282097206
are you really surprised that she desperately wants some love, coming from that family?
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>>282009655
We finally reach the part where Mori drops the main story and just starts to do little short stories about the Victorian Era. Honestly one of my favorite "arcs" from the manga.
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>>282021998
Will she ever? I feel really bad for her after Harta just fired her. I hope she can find a good magazine where she could end Otoyomegatari
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>>282022880

I always hated (liked) all the chapters with the twins because all those chapters picture the Aral Sea as a wonderful place full of life. And well, that place pretty much doesn't exist anymore. There's a certain aspect of tragedy that looms over every aspect of Otoyomegatari. As if Mori is always whispering to us "You will never see something like this in the world, again".
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>>282103276
Shut the fuck up Todd
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>>282105501
What the fuck? Why?
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>>282105501
She's been in Aokishi for Otoyomegatari since 2021, and I think it was less her being fired and more of a thing for her erratic schedule, caused by her levels of detail combined with her physical issues from her deathgrip pen style which she had to do physical rehab for, working smoother there.
Had she been fired or axed it probably wouldn't have been such a smooth transition over to a new magazine after all.
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>>282092319
Imagine the same thing just happens again
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>>282092305
We know, Will.
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>>282105575
They have been working on it's restoration, while it is not 100% and won't be for many years it is coming along and is in a far better place than just 10-15 years ago.
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>>282092335
Thanks OP. And I never really had to. My darling made a move on me. So I have no idea how to flirt even according to her.
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Truly, mori understands me.
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>>282092009
Those sharp, judgemental eyes...
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>>282092937
The english upper crust is filled with german, you should know that by now.
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>>282093303
Would he even be a true frenchman if he didn't try to get in someone's pants when travelling abroad? I thought that was a national tradition of theirs.
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>>282103315
>>282105135
Mori is Japanese, there are mountains everywhere. She might have assumed it's just like that everywhere
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>>282107626
From what I read about it, restoring the sea to its former size isn't a priority. The rivers that feed the lake are needed for agriculture. The area is a desert and fishing is not efficient enough at filling people's stomachs, sadly. However they were able to let the Sea regain a bit of territory in the 2000s and made sure the lake won't be shrinking any further, so at least there's that.
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>>282105501
What the fuck
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>>282105501
She wasn't fired, Aokishi was spun off by editors from Harta and other mags. Her output is just not good these days so she doesn't appear much in issues
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>>282105501
>I feel really bad for her after Harta just fired her. I hope she can find a good magazine where she could end Otoyomegatari
Anon you're fucking retarded.
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This is the end.
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>>282113872
nuh uh
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>>282113872
my only friend
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>>282106956
I wish I could massage her hands back to health every day
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Was the cancer that Mitsuki had the entire show.
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