Chapter 1: The Dream of the Crystal Palace (Part 1)
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>>282009655Hi OP
>>282009698Meido!
Hi OP!
>>282009818Yo yo yo
>>282009870I see a beautiful, beautiful autistic lady
>>282010206What a woman
And that's it. This couple is pretty cute.Are you saving up for anything?
>>282010221Extremely cute story Nothing in particular Thanks as always OP!
>>282010221Thanks OP Living expenses
>>282009923You don't need to halve your food for one week. Just reduce it slightly for two
>>282010219Kelly is tied best girl in the whole manga.
>>282010296With who
>>282010221Thanks OP. I'm really bad at budgeting so no.
>>282010314Do you really need to ask?
>>282010314Vivian
>>282010408Shut up, Vivi, and go back to your room. Nobody likes you, they just want to spank you. You constantly cause problems for Grace and despite wanting to be a little princess you're very unladylike. I was talking about Mrs. Molders, who is a better woman than you can even conceive of.
>>282010408fuck off
>>282009717was this page necessary
>>282010314You know who
>>282009782>DOUGFASTER
>>282010221*chair clatteing*
>>282010191>>282010206At first, I thought she was going to murder him.
>>282010221chuuuThanks, OP.
>>282010221Nice. Assuming you can get away with it, there's nothing better than forcing a surprise kiss on someone.
>>282010221>sudden kissWomen mangaka always have this and it's always so good
>>282009842This motherfucker decided in his 20's to be a drunk all his life.
>>282009782/v/ right now
>>282009967https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_THdzBnHy0>>282010206cute wife>>282010221thanks, OP. I'm about to leave on two week's holiday on Tuesday, so it's all ready to come out
>>282012466town drunk isn't a glamorous job but it's an honest one
>>282011062Bless this gremlin.
How much is a shilling anywayI always thought it meant small loose change
>>282009856He says about a woman he will pine for much of a century.
>>282010221Emma's adoptive mom was cute. CUTE.
>>282016591According to googling a shilling is 1/20 of a pound and a pound in 1960 adjusted for inflation is £155.38 today so about 31 pounds or 41.67usd. Although I did fail math.
>>282017027>Londonflation has increased prices 150X over the last 65 yearsI sure hope you failed math
>>282017290Oh sorry that's 1850
>>282010221Thanks, anonsito.for a house.
>>282017395Thank the Queen, I almost tossed my biscuits
>>282011062Best girl
>>282010408Why are niggers so anti-vivi?
>>282010221Thanks OP.It's funny, how much less (in hours of work needed, not in absolute numbers) many things cost than 170 years ago, but still many people are at the end of their money each month...
>>282009750Extremely confused by the timeline. Kelly was born in 1938 and the Great Exhibition took place in 1951. There is no way she is 13 during this chapter.
>>282010221the fact the Bongs still haven't rebuilt the Crystal Palace is a testament to how far they've fallen
>>282009870>>282009870>>282009948How much did a middle class journalist make in the 1850s to be able to afford a townhouse like this? Was this actually the case? Was housing that much more affordable back then? Are they just living beyond their means? Where on the totem pole of "middle class" does a journalist even land?Also, very neat detail here where you can really see the corset shape under the dress. IIRC the bust was a lower/more natural during this era than it was during later in the century too.
>>282020372>Kelly was born in 1838Where was that mentioned?
>>282020518
>>282009907>>282009923>about two and a half days worth of food for the ticketsThat sounds quite cheap and they don't look that badly off. How much would Doug be making at the time?
>>282020594I guess she lied to everyone about her age in her older years lmao.
>>282020372>>282020594She says that she married at 18 here so Mori really just made a little boo-boo there. Probably realized it too since the next time the graves were shown they didn't have any dates on them, I believe.
>>282018965She insist upon herself
Vivi should get everything she wants
>>282010206i wonder if otoyomegatari is actually better or if i'm just dazzled by all the patterns and age gap marriage
>>282010221Douglas was too pure for this world...
>>282021352Henry didn't make me nearly as mad as William so that's a plus.
>>282021538To be fair, Henry's parents are spineless so he can basically do whatever he wants, while Will actually had to face consequences if he acted out.
>>282021568Henry's mom is a bitch but his dad seems fairly normal and possibly secretly impressed he bagged a cute steppe waifu
>>282020808>she only had that nice young lad for 2 years
>>282021352I think Otoyomegatari is a fair bit better. All the couples (barring Henry and Talas perhaps) have excellent chemistry and the art is Mori at her absolute peak. The story is also quite ambitious, encompassing so many different lives and cultures. It's pretty much going to be Mori's magnum opus once it's finished.
>>282012466You could have just said he's british.
>>282021998Otoyome isn't over at this point so my opinion might change, but I personally like Emma better because it has a better overarching story thread that helps keep things cohesive. Otoyome often times feels more like an anthology series rather than a solid plot, with only Henry providing something of a link between the all the different couples, though even he's gone back home now.
>>282021840Knowing that they ended up having such a short amount of time together is really making me tear up while reading this story
>>282021998I actually like the Henry/Talas chapters the most and Amir/Karluk the least
>>282021538>WilliamWho did what? >>282021998I guess it is more well balanced, she shuffles the lines well and i care way more about the characters there.
>>282022097>Otoyome isn't over at this point so my opinion might changethe only way Otoyo can be worse is if Mori pulls a >and then the Russians kill everyoneending
>>282021998>barring Henry and Talas perhapsWhy?
>>282022578> and then the russians kill everyoneeven if it ends nicely, it'll at least be on the cusp of that mess which will basically ruin everyones lives except for Henry and Talas who fucked off early enough.
>>281989850>there was a very very cute eleanor scene that was anime only. the one about the umbrella, involving her cute feet.Which episode?
>>282022762even in Emma, I can sort of turn my brain off and headcanon everyone escapes WW1 and 2 unscathed but in Otoyo, everyone is fucked from being under the boot of the Tsar, then WW1, then the Civil War and then capping off the misery with the Soviets and Stalin
>>282022880Otoyome includes a lot more ominous foreshadowing than Emma did about future conflicts, especially in the chapters where Henry finally decided that he needed to leave without seeing Amir/Karluk again because the skirmishes were getting too dangerous, as well as the chapters of Azel and bros marriages where they were only really arranged because they want to unite the clans to try and push back the russians.
I've harboured a lingering dread over the years that Mori might be building up to an absolutely gut wrenching ending as Henry returns years later to find everyone gone. She probably laments the loss of all those cultures and people during the great game and wants to drive home just how much is lost over pointless conflicts. Sure it's not her style but why did she have to set the story in such a turbulent period? ;_;
>>282022612I really don't know how to put it better into words. I like them as a couple but their interactions feel more reserved? too polite? I don't know, but I feel the same way about Emma and William. Sure everything surrounding their romance is excellent but the actual romance feels lacking compared to the other Mori couples.
>>282023255>Henry's grandson goes back to his grandma's homeland to find the nomads settled, everyone in commieblocks and the Aral Sea dried up
>>282023332I feel you on that, feels like even now there's a bit of an issue between the both of them not really knowing how to best interact with each other due to their differences in culture/lack of understanding in the each others culture. Talas in general is also just kind of a reserved person, so even though Henry clearly wants to have a nice relationship with her and get closer, he doesn't really know how to go about it since the only things he really knows she likes are her horse and just.. being around animals, I guess.
>>282023455OBJECTIVELY the most beautiful Mori girl.
>>282023524Eh, I'm more partial to Dorothea
>>282023637She's a close second.
>>282023348:(
>>282023524Maria would be first if she wasn't such a slag
>>282023524>OBJECTIVELY the most beautiful Mori girlis Aurelia
>>282021568The key different is Henry isn't the first son. Also, while Henry's a bit scatter brained, their reaction to him showing up with a foreign wife makes it clear he's frequently more decisive and capable of making his own way in life. He has a clear plan and goal, even if he doesn't often think about how his friends and family will take it. And, yeah, that's kind of because they will just go along with it.>Henry's friend: I AM NOT GOING TO HELP YOU ANYMORE!!>next page>Henry's friend goes with him to Scotland to be a witness for the marriage
>>282022099There's a great bit in the next chapter I didn't catch the previous times I read it, but is very powerful if you understanding the implication.
>>282024100Well, even if they don't help him, Henry would do it anyways. Henry could have easily introduced Talas as his maid or whatever and she probably would accept it, being from a polygamous culture, but he kept it real with his family from day 1 rather than just flakily proposing marriage to Eleanor.
>>282024134I was more commenting about how Will's family is more strict both because he's the first son, and has obligations to them that his love life will fuck up, and it's kind of clear Will's not great with actually making things happen. The character development he gets is to be more decisive and more committed to long term goals.Whereas, for all Henry Smith fucks around, his parents are probably more lenient because he at least seems like an independent adult without the obligations of an heir who may do odd things, but does them properly and can support himself. What the fuck was Will gonna do if he did get kicked out? Meanwhile Henry has his writing and quickly planned, or already did I don't recall, to live outside the sphere of British high society when he brought Talas back.
>>282024134>denied Talas in a maid outfitfuck you Henry
>>282022880>even in Emma, I can sort of turn my brain off and headcanon everyone escapes WW1 and 2 unscathedIt's one thing to survive the World Wars, it's another to continue your way of life afterward. The Molders are going to be treated like criminals at worst because they're German and they're going to be attached to the hip with the Joneses.
>>282024561There's always migrating to the States like many German families did. What out to the Turkestanis in Otoyo have when the Russians come calling?
>>282010221Cute kiss. I love the way his hands are almost enveloping her head.
>>282016591a shilling is 1/20 of a poundafter decimalisation in 1971 when they changed from 240 pence per pound to 100p per pound, it became 5pand I think also a guinea was 21 shillings, they loved their weird measures
>>282027281https://www.royalmintmuseum.org.uk/journal/history/pounds-shillings-and-pence/
>>282016591>The eccentric currency of a fallen empire. One penny is four farthings, twelve pence are one shiling, and so on
>>282023332The dorky, socially inept English gentleman is a trope that Mori really likes....
>>282014314It's dirty work, but someone's gotta do it.
>>282011957Sudden kisses are a must. I'd love to get one.
>>282029623>I'd love to get one.
>>282020510You could get a room that's too big for you by selling flowers in the street somehow.
>>282010094I imagine it was pure fairy tales. Museums then weren't what they are now.
Whatever path leads to Mori drawing hornier series is the one I support.
>>282032546I could paint you a nice picture, I'm not engaging with that stupid gutter speak.
>>282023970>>282023776>>282023524This Anon >>282023637 is right. It's not even up for debate.
>>282032873It's actually Tasha.
>>282023524Well it looks like the one thing everyone can agree on is that it's not Emma
>>282009655Chapter 2: The Dream of the Crystal Palace (Part 2)
Hey OP
Greetings OP
>>282037369>>282037371Heyo
And that's it. How beautiful and tragic. Been to any museums lately?
>>282037823Doug... FASTER... ;_;7>>282037852Thanks, OP. No.
>>282037440COMICALLY expensive fish >>282037616Cute>>282037823NOOOOOOO>>282037852At least he got to see the exhibition before he died. He was a very good manNoThanks as always OP!
The Full Moon watchalong will start in about 3 hours. We will watch CITY half an hour before that
>>282037852Amazing chapters, she was the best girl all along, next to Mori
>>282024208Henry's mother is absolutely not more lenient, she went full racist the moment she found out. Henry is dead to her.
>>282037567>exquisite jewelry like this isn't realityWonder what she'll think when she starts teaching upper class kids.
>>282037379>>282037422Cute bonnet
>>282037440What a shame this woman only got her bridal happiness for two years What a shame this man passed so soon after making it
>>282037483Imagine being some London dipshit in the 19th century, and the coolest thing you ever saw was some dogs shagging outside the pub, and going in there Truly, we're spoiled in this modern era
>>282037616I love these two
>>282037630Kelly cares only for the veil of Maya...
>>282038676Yeah there was a lot more I’m going away for a month to see something cool and hopefully not die back then
>>282037720I can really feel Mori's passion for drawing beautiful things for the sake of drawing beautiful things here
>>282037751>>282037764Fuck...
>>282037852Beautiful story Anyway thanks OP Not in over a year
Good God the palace was huge
This is going to be a really dumb question but how did old people like Kelly survive after they retired if they had no children? Did the bongs already have a pension system back then or did she have to save up all the money she had from teaching cocky rich boys? She certainly had enough money to pay Emma a salary despite not owning her home (she would've left it to Emma otherwise I think).
>>282037616All I really want is to annoy a beautiful woman
>>282037852>Been to any museums lately?Not in a while, no. My wife likes art museums a lot but hasn't been feeling up to going for a while. We're trying to ha e a kid though so when we do I plan on taking them to a lot of museums as often as possible.
>>282037616Based Douglas.
I was in Douglas once. It was pleasant enough, even visited a museum there
>>282039193For the most part your children were your retirement plan. She probably had saved up money. Bismarck introduced the first pension system in the 1880's. Some people back then had pensions due to specific jobs, ie, soldiers, etc. Kelly probably had money saved up because of her work as an upper class governess.
>>282037764gosling.jpg
>>282039193https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Poor_Laws#New_Poor_Law
>>282038676To an extent, this was still the same later. If you would have told my grandmother in her youth that she would fly to Madeira in her late years or that she would live to see her grandkids travelling to Chile, Japan or the United states, she would probably have had a laugh at you. That was simply unthinkable for "normal" people at that time.
>>282039927>Bismarck introduced the first pension system in the 1880Bismarck? As in the ultra-conservative gigachud?
>>282040388You have a hell of a lot to learn about politics
>>282040388You heard that right. He literally came up with the idea to pull the rug under the socialists and kill their momentum.
>>282040388Surely not Bismarck the Japanese shipgirl, anon.
>>282040555
>>282040388Yes. In 1880's Germany, Bismarck had two serious threats to his power. The socialist SPD party and the Catholic Zentrum party. For various reasons, he had to ally with one against the other and he chose to ally the SPD to fight Zentrum. What this meant is that Bismark passed a compromise labor bill and in return the SPD backed some policy (I forget which, but something anti-Catholic)Lenin hated this, btw. He saw it as a betrayal of the workers movement because the labor bill didn't go far enough and the SPD renounced violent revolution. This sentiment was instrumental in the development of Lenin's vanguard partyBut ultimately, this isn't a thread about late 1800's Germany, so I'll leave it here
>>282039176They don't make them like they used to
>>282039927She must've saved up quite a lot.When she was young she had to starve herself to see an exhibition, and in her old days she was able to live alone in a townhouse and hire a maid (Emma probably didn't earn much, but clothing and food cost as well).Probably the rise of agricultural productivity brought down relative food prices a lot.
>>282037705she's so fucking pretty
>>282039193Before pensions were a thing, most homeless people were just elderly people who had spent all their money. So someone in her position would be reliant on savings and/or family
I wish I had a wife
>>282042212Your hand would hurt
>>282042714I wouldn't hit her that hard
>>282037408Crystal Palace was the world's first modular building.I've been in the Dallas Informart building, which was inspired by it. I was no fan of the clear floor spans at the top of escalators.
>>282037616This based man only had 2 years the world is not fair.
>>282037852Thanks, anonsito.
>>282037764They fucked that night
>>282037852I cried like a bitch when i read this two weeks ago
>>282037852Sadly no but this chapter reminded me of the trip I spent like 5 days wandering the albert and vitctoria museum. Great place
There's more!?The world has become a brighter place.
>>282038384She can bitch and moan but clearly has no power in the family nor the ability to persuade the father to actually do anything to punish Henry or even try to properly talk him out of it.
>>282041850Also she had some pretty high class clients when she was a governess, probably had a great reputation that afforded her higher pay.Though yeah, I highly doubt Emma was being paid a standard maids rate anyway.
>>282037601Something I learned recently was that the potato took a while to catch on in Victorian England because it wasn't seen as real food. There was a north/south divide where the north ate more potatoes because they had more Irish there, while the south ate bread. Not sure about the timeline of this, but I imagine the potato was still seen as lesser in the 1850s.
>>282045898I guess it was common to pay a maid in training less or nothing at all.I once saw a film that was rather realistic in these matters,where an old lady had a lady's maid in training, whom she paid nothing. Other servants in a house they visited told the maid that this was the oldest trick in the book, and that her mistress was an old miser.Emma on the other hand did get a lot in return from Kelly, even if she had worked completely for free, which I doubt.
>>282042732You should use a belt, anyway.
>>282046691I heard the same of Prussia, where the king wanted to introduce the new crop for its better yields, but the people were sceptical.So he had his personal guard regiment guard the fields where they were planted and made a point of being seen eating potatoes often.
>>282037823>"it's once in a life time opportunity">they actually rebuild the place a year later>but by then Douglas is too sick to go anymore>so it really was a once in a lifetime opportunityThis got me when I reread it recently. Especially since if you compare it to Emma, her life will also change radically in just a few months. Had she and Will not made more of a connection during that scant time, their lives would've been completely different.Let this be a lesson to anons. Take that chance, even if you might think you have plenty of time. No telling what might happen in a year.
>>282040757The US did something similar: FDR argued you had to make the socialist/communist agitators less attractive and the easiest way to do this was simply to enact compromise policies that addressed what most people were concerned about, therefore completely defanging the appeal of the more radical ideologues.
>>282045898Another factor might be the short length of her retirement.I don't know whether I get the timeline right, but I guess she retired around the time she hired Emma and she employed her for approximately 5 years before she died.But she also did not leave much inheritance in the story: The house was rented, Emma got a dress, and there didn't seem to be other heirs.Maybe a former employer let her live in the house or paid for her retirement. It's probably cheaper to offer such a contract and "bet" on an early death, instead of paying her enough to cover the "risk" of her living until age 100. Also, if your income is from land ownership, small, regular payments over a long time are easier to do than higher payments over a shorter period.
>>282047407Definitely an overlooked detail from Mori: Kelly would have written a letter of recommendation or otherwise secured Emma's future employment before passing.
>>282047897>I won't leave Emma any option but to go crying to Will to support her>what's she going to do, runaway back home with no money and no job?Too clever by half, Kelly
>>282047897Her death was kind of sudden, she may have expected to live longer at the least. And it would be weird if Emma had asked for a letter of recommendation while she was busy with the preemptive mourning that she ended up doing.
All this political stuff is too hard for me to comprehend i understand spanking girls way better if happy I live in this world.
>>282048481She was clearly sick for a while though, knowing how sudden death could be is more the reason she could've written a letter beforehand. Domestic servants can be hired through a variety of avenues, but it generally goes personal recommendation > written recommendation > classifieds. Procuring the job security of a girl she cared about was the very least she could do. It's just something Mori had overlooked.
>>282048845Wasn't this even an issue, when she started to work for the Möllders?IIRC they only overlooked her lack of references, because they were so extremely short-staffed.Kelly definitely could've (and would've, given her character - she was a very organized woman) done it while she was already bedridden.
I just want to say that, out of the eight storytimes I'm currently following, this one has, in my opinion, brought forth the most interesting and informative discussions. That's why I'm dreadings its end.
>>282037616That's it. Doug best boy. He loves his wife and loves teasing her.
>>282037408Richard and Aurelia also visited the Crystal Palace with their kids. I hope we see that too.
>>282047045Friedrich II, yes. He also regularly travelled the country and visited farmers on their fields to see how it was going.People still occasionally lay potatoes on his grave in Potsdam.
>>282038676>Can see dogs shaggings anytime I want nowBetter times indeed.
>>282050539Hopefully OP will follow up with Otoyomegatari after this.
>>282036206Emma is an angel but she's up against literal goddesses.
>>282052174He said he won't
>>282037823such is life in victorian england...
>>282039176That is a lot of cash for glaziers.
>>281844954>>281857231I did it.https://files.catbox.moe/gvbo77.png
>>282053564I KNEEL
>>282009764SMITH??
>>282053564Wonderful.
>>282037601>fasted>ate potatoes
Why are you all so mean to Vivi? She's done nothing wrong
>>282053564Holy fuck
>>282054526They're jealous.
>>282054526The only thing she did right was be spankable
>>282046691Oats were horse feed until a certain ad campaign to sell them to poors as better than no breakfast.
>>282055966The history of breakfast food gets weird fast once you go down the religious aspect of plain foods rabbit hole.
>>282047045When they tried that with corn in Europe the church resisted it with some originally absurd claims about wheat.
>>282053564the good stuff
>>282009764Henry's come to see us!
>>282053564Nice one, anon.
>>282053564
>>282056546And then there's breakfast cereals from the early 1900s originally being not only associated with Seventh-Day Adventists, but with a sanitarium health food craze.I gotta say though, they're quite yummy. Maybe too much so, they're probably what most made me overweight.
>>282052627Aww :(
>>282057749Yup that's it exactly. Fucking love my corn flakes tho.
>>282056978The church also tried to convince people that potatoes and tomatoes were un-Christian
i am now aware of kaoru mori and her works. very nice
>>282058000Tomatoes were partly because of the leaves actually being toxic and some hack fraud botanists deciding that the whole plant must be toxic and classifying it as a Deadly Nightshade since it also happened to sort of resemble belladonna and its berries, since at the time the average tomato was much smaller than our modern cultivars. The Italians had adopted them fairly quickly since their hack fraud botanist had classified it both as a Nightshade and a Mandrake, so they thought it was partly poison partly aphrodisiac much like how they considered the eggplant.
>>282055966Only Southerners thought that just horses and Scots ate oats, but the fact was it was the mainstay crop in EVERY upland area of the British Isle because wheat was not as reliable on some Yorkshire fellside which had a harsher climate and weather than anything the lowlands and South had, and where communities/households were frequently in isolated area. Now the uplands are all pasture but until a few decades ago they were mixed farms, and before the introduction of cheap mass produced bread, and supermarkets, oats were still a dietary staple in Northern England, Wales, Scotland (and maybe around Dartmoor & Exmoor too).
>>282053564Someone needs to show Mori.
>>282059255Maybe Shirley would change my mind, but I haven't really gotten the impression that she's much of a lolicon
>>282059312If anything she's the opposite and a hag enjoyer, or at least a cake enjoyer.
>>282059352Some of the bunny girls get old indeed.
>>282059312Shirley is more of a cute daughter or little sister type of story and character than a lolicon's daughter or little sister sort of story or character.
>>282053564You are a hero making the world a better place with this.
>>282059499How do I hire a 13 year old English maid
>>282059312If she loves that past and England she probably also likes the long history of girls being spanked in Europe. Maybe she wants to be a Victorian maid getting punished herself by a rich handsome landowner too.
>>282048845Mori did have a letter of introduction/recommendation included as a story element in a one shot that was in the first volume of Shirley, though I guess that would have been around a year after Emma had started so maybe it's something that she noticed shortly after
>>282059848Though it was also a story about a goofy prank loving kind of guy as their employer so he had written the butler's but not the maid's and wrote the butler's with him as a full associate with hiring powers rather than just a normal butler.
>>282053564Great.
>>282057679>How can I do this to Hina without dying....
>>282053564hot
>>282057679I miss the wet couch spanking.
>>282009655Chapter 3: Brighton by the Sea (Part 1)
>>282063830bonjour
>>282063792Hi OP
>>282064131ciao
>>282063806She looks like an Alice Pretty
>>282064208UHHHH
And that's it. Cute sisters.Do you put your foot in your mouth often?
>>282064076Finally the other sister makes an appearance
>>282064246Thanks, OP. Nyo.
>>282063971Maybe love is still possible for our girl
>>282064246what a fag, i guess eleanor is just not lucky with men.
>>282063971he's literally me
>>282064246Thanks OP I don't think so, but I may well be wrong
>>282064246This poor girl will never marryYesThanks as always OP!
>>282064714But she's already married to me?
>>282064076>Eleanor will be the only non titled member of her familylmao. Girl can't catch a break. Really doesn't deserve all this suffering.
>>282053564Heh nice, Vivi getting what she deserves. Splendid work. Thanks drawfag. I'll be honest, I probably won't get off to this. Just appreciate and find amusing. Is that Arthur spanking her?
>>282063833Why are these cabanas on wheels?
>>282064246Thanks OPI wish I could put Eleanor's foot in my mouth
>>282064860woah, are you me?
>>282065757So ladies can get in dry shod, and then emerge where they have deep enough water to swim - a modesty thing.
>>282066961>footfags
>>282064361You have a butler named after the German word for "fast"?
>>282063792Bright-ON, BEACH!
>>282064246>Do you put your foot in your mouth often?Metaphor, I hope?
>>282063971>Mori went out of her way to make a romance for the loser girlMori's a kind woman after all. Still a disgusting pervert, though.
>>282064246I like how he's not spineless. He's right, he has no reason to feel guilty for what happened. He behaved politely and congenially and as soon as Eleanor spoke up about it, he stopped politely too.
>>282064186>Know them? Why, they're my parents!
>>282069234>disgusting pervertShe's a wonderful pervert
>>282055434I don't think anyone should fault Vivi for this moment. She was unironically in the right.
>>282065589It's anyone really, I wasn't thinking on someone specific, could be (you).
any nudity?
>>282071044Lots
>>282064246Thanks, anonsito.
>>282064076High class girls are on a level of their own.
>>282064132>Already giving him the lookGood thing the first sister is here.
>>282064186They're not cute, they're sexy!
>>282065589>Is that Arthur spanking her?You know why she never slides down the railing in front of Richard?Now you know.
>>282053564This makes me be able to finish the rest of the series with hope and happiness in my heart.
>>282072140I wonder if they'll balloon like their mother later in life?
>>282064076ENTER
>>282063869>Oh no we're gonna get we
>>282073662It's more the wind and lightning that they're worried about, though some probably are worried about hair getting wet when they didn't want it to.
>>282063934imagine if he fell in love with Annie
>>282071006>>282072308I asked if it was Arthur because he wears a bow tie
>>282063889>have you heard? It seems Miss Campbell, the Viscount's daughter, was caught alone with a half-naked young buck at the beach>*gasps maliciously*>is that why the young Jones heir...? Did he know, about her proclivities?>>282064076>...but is it truly surprising given her family's reputation?>I heard her sister, the Countess, fornicates with foreign men from the colonies while dressed a la Grande Odalisque!>*gasps indignantly*>and that her husband, the Count, not only knows about it but has done nothing to stop her!>*gasps exponentially*>which sister is the one?>does it matter? They are all cut from the same cloth.And there, just like that Eleanor shall NEVER EVER get married thanks to Annie and Monica's combined efforts!
>>282053564Naked Vivi version when?
>>282068043>You have a butler named after the German word for "fast"?Is this fucking Frieren?
>>282069234Kindness and perversion often go hand in hand.A decent woman is often too busy keeping her demons of perversion at bay to actually be kind.
>>282067189Ah, OK - thanks.So they used all this beautiful beach in Brighton just to haul little houses on wheels back and forth?
>>282076268The dress and bloomers add a lot to it I think. It highlights the exposed butt and will draw eyes to it make Vivi more embarrassed.
>>282069234Not a single one of her (known) fetishes is disgusting.
>>282068043And an actual surname to boot:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schnell
>>282076963Can we at least remove her boots and socks?
>>282063971Male Emma.>>282069234There's already too many losing heroines.
>>282010221There be handholding tonight.
>>282037567Based wife.
>>282079374>Male EmmaTrue.Being so cucked that the next person interested in you looks exactly like the girl who took your first lover.
>>282063820>>282063833Did people really go in the water in their clothes, shoes and all?
>>282066961
>>282079753I'm pretty sure that's what the bathing suits of the time looked like. Outside the beach, such a skirt length was considered too short for a woman.
>>282037852>Been to any museums lately?A little less than a year ago. I usually don't travel but I was in another country for something and I had the opportunity to do some sightseeing by myself. Have we lost our sense of wonder in such a globalized and connected world? The Crystal Palace must have been truly awe-inspiring to visitors. All of those magnificent attractions from all over the world, including places that most people would only hear about. I can only imagine how life-changing that experience was. When I was sightseeing, almost all the tourists were only concerned with taking photos and selfies then immediately moving on to the next thing. They weren't taking any time to slow down and appreciate what was before them. What the fuck did they even come here for? I was genuinely disgusted.
>>282064171Isn't the number too high for the time?How many engagements were considered too much before getting a ruined reputation?
>>282070308>She was unironically in the right.In that scene, absolutely.>>282079753This -is- their swimwear, not normal clothes.
>>282079986Japanese-made Postcard from Kiautschou to Germany around 1905 (so even later), showing what was considered modern, Europe-inspired swimwear around that time (pre Meiji restauration most people would just swim in a loincloth or naked).
>>282073322Sexy whore on the right
>>282080708Not a patch on Dorothea though.
>>282080144>the west has been de-fanservicing Japan for over one hundred yearsdamn, how deep does this globalist conspiracy go?!
>>282080144I think that I'd go to the beach more often if people still dressed like this.
>>282069234>>Mori went out of her way to make a romance for the loser girlEleanor is a good girl, she deserves some happiness too.
>>282064246If ever a boy needed to travel. Jeez.
>>282068397You'll never learn English.
>>282079753Victorians were famously mad and hated their own bodies.
>>282081009Technically it was Jews who wrote about the snake and the apple. Damn fools didn't tame a mongoose.
>>282072140on a CLASS of their own
>>282074830>dressed a la Grande Odalisque!isn't she naked
>>282064246Thank you for posting.
>>282063971Eleanor deserves happiness
>>282084496For what? Being born to nobles?
>>282064246She needs someone willing to stand up to pops, so this is a good sign.
>>282084579For being cute
>>282084579For being a nice young girl who treats others well.
>>282081009A major thing to remember with this is that Buddhism isnt nearly as harsh on sex as a concept as other religions are. Its not pro sex or anything but compared to others its not as anti nudity others were.
>>282081009Blame Christianity
>>282084579Fuck off communist
>>282084768They just import the Hindu instruction manual on how to get good at (over with) sex.
>>282084768Neither was Shinto.
>>282009655Ty op
>>282084768Body shame is barbarian insecurity. That's why it became so huge in England.
>>282086816But their history involves getting buck naked to fight. Which we should bring back, by the way.
>>282086842That's Greek history. Barbarians always walking around in crude loin cloths or stolen clothes, trying not to look at their enemy's dick.
>>282087021I don't know man.
Top Husband ranking1.German moustache2. 2 year Doug3.4.Fuck
>>282080144At least they weren't going in the water in their shoes
>>282083113yes but rumors tend to exaggerate things
>>282090520It’s hard to tell sometimes
>>282037422The oldest job there has ever been
>>282090718That's not Maria's escort service.
>>282037616Nice
>>282037823NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>282037852Thanks OP
>>282084812Blame Meiji for wanting to make Japan like Europe>>282087078pp
Chapter 4: Brighton by the Sea (Part 2)
Tiny bit early today
>>282091921Hi OP
God I fucking hate Eleanor
And that's it. This girl is so easy.How do you make a move?
>>282092145Does this strategy work
>>282092335>lighter manterialThis fucking SLUT.
>>282092145Dude read the room>>282092335Well I hope this time it goes better for herHow am I supposed to know...Thanks as always OP!
You can vote for the next watchalong if you wishhttps://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3prOoyA
>>282092311Angelic
>>282092319The best way is to just add an s
>>282092185>horny Frenchman out of nowhere
>>282092335Thanks OP I'm probably the wrong person to ask
>>282092032>Schnell>LiebeIt's really Frieren.But with the difference that these are actual - if uncommon - names.
>>282092467Just swam through the channel to molest British maids.
>>282092055comfy despite the awkward silence>>282092134>>282092162never mind, these two should just shut up and enjoy the scenery.
>>282092335Thanks OP. I do a 360 and walk away.
>>282092421Where do I watch the watchalong?
>>282093120>>282037897
>>282092185>Oui oui hon hon baguette eiffel tower
>>282093298Merci buku
>>282093303>no croissant
>>282093913Kuwa son?
>>282092421>>282093120A Welcome to the NHK watchalong would be a great time
>>282092359>Dude read the roomThey're outside tho
>>282092305god I fucking hate you
>>282092335>How do you make a move?So.... do you watch anime?
>>282092335Thanks, OP. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>282094270
>>282037897>the true antagonist of full moon wo sagashiteThe anime finale was a trip
>>282096578Her cancer was truly an unspoken character.
>>282096578is that evil teto
>>282092335Eleanor is so easy you could seduce her even if you were a goat-fucking famer plebeian
>>282093010> 360> walk awayAs a friend once said to me, "I hope you drive better than you walk."
>>282092421Where's Aho Girl?
>>282098408Aho
>>282092335Thanks, anonsito.
>>282092335See Eleanor is fine. Fiiiiiiiiine.
>>282037555mori drew enough girls for all the anons in the thread.... she's too good for us bros...
>>282037852I go to museums alone and feel nothing but jealousy over artists better than me
>>282092199>you see that mountain?>we should climb that
>>282092199wtf there ain't no fucking mountains around brighton
>>282064246He's right. It was something wrong with her, not himself.
>>282103315Yeah. She's not a geography nerd, we've figured as much.The Atlantic is a small lake that can be crossed on a shady steamer....
>>282097206are you really surprised that she desperately wants some love, coming from that family?
>>282009655We finally reach the part where Mori drops the main story and just starts to do little short stories about the Victorian Era. Honestly one of my favorite "arcs" from the manga.
>>282021998Will she ever? I feel really bad for her after Harta just fired her. I hope she can find a good magazine where she could end Otoyomegatari
>>282023013>>282022880I always hated (liked) all the chapters with the twins because all those chapters picture the Aral Sea as a wonderful place full of life. And well, that place pretty much doesn't exist anymore. There's a certain aspect of tragedy that looms over every aspect of Otoyomegatari. As if Mori is always whispering to us "You will never see something like this in the world, again".
>>282103276Shut the fuck up Todd
>>282105501What the fuck? Why?
>>282105501She's been in Aokishi for Otoyomegatari since 2021, and I think it was less her being fired and more of a thing for her erratic schedule, caused by her levels of detail combined with her physical issues from her deathgrip pen style which she had to do physical rehab for, working smoother there.Had she been fired or axed it probably wouldn't have been such a smooth transition over to a new magazine after all.
>>282092319Imagine the same thing just happens again
>>282092305We know, Will.
>>282105575They have been working on it's restoration, while it is not 100% and won't be for many years it is coming along and is in a far better place than just 10-15 years ago.
>>282092335Thanks OP. And I never really had to. My darling made a move on me. So I have no idea how to flirt even according to her.
>>282103033Truly, mori understands me.
>>282092009Those sharp, judgemental eyes...
>>282092937The english upper crust is filled with german, you should know that by now.
>>282092185>>282092467>>282092968>>282093303Would he even be a true frenchman if he didn't try to get in someone's pants when travelling abroad? I thought that was a national tradition of theirs.
>>282103315>>282105135Mori is Japanese, there are mountains everywhere. She might have assumed it's just like that everywhere
>>282107626From what I read about it, restoring the sea to its former size isn't a priority. The rivers that feed the lake are needed for agriculture. The area is a desert and fishing is not efficient enough at filling people's stomachs, sadly. However they were able to let the Sea regain a bit of territory in the 2000s and made sure the lake won't be shrinking any further, so at least there's that.
>>282105501What the fuck
>>282105501She wasn't fired, Aokishi was spun off by editors from Harta and other mags. Her output is just not good these days so she doesn't appear much in issues
>>282105501>I feel really bad for her after Harta just fired her. I hope she can find a good magazine where she could end OtoyomegatariAnon you're fucking retarded.
This is the end.
>>282113872nuh uh
>>282113872my only friend
>>282106956I wish I could massage her hands back to health every day
>>282096996Was the cancer that Mitsuki had the entire show.