Now Yoshida sent Denji into limbo, what will Tardji's choice be? Opening the door, or not opening? Me thinks Turdji will open it.
This is the thread
holy sexo>>282039546if Aki were based he would've saved her and kept her as a fleshlight
>>282041383That scenery...
>>282041436The ghost devil is still the number1 scammer in this manga. What a shit contract
>>282041436There was nothing to keep, literally
>>282040962>I want to protect both choices Has become>I WANT TO FUCKING KILL BOTH BITCHES
>>282040962What door? The door to Yorus pussy or the door to Deaths pussy?
A glimpse of Part II Reze?
>>282040962the only thing Yuckshita did was sending himself to hell
>>282040962What door? I'm out of the loop
>>282041527Denji will choose a third option. Horseman harem
YoSHITass.
>>282041550schizo headcanon, don't bother
>>282041535Without the sample and kekji shit
>>282041568So you know? Tell me, those theories are always entertaining
>>282041597but enough about what you will do on september 16th
>>282041535Took him a week to draw that? Also Denji still looks poorly drawn
>>282041557Will be interesting to see his choice but right now I failt to see how he can make any difference. Death and Fumiko probably just want to push him into battle with the hope of him ending up weaponized.
>>282041634I wonder what's up with that. Maybe they had him add Denji at the last moment, or Fujimbo simply didn't want to draw him
>>282041652Is the couch slowly becoming canon?
>>282041652>Gayshida kissing a girlHeheh
all you Chainsawman fangirls need to lose some fucking weight God DAMN
>>282041686He does it to piss off Kekji.
>>282041270>>282041383They look similar, way too similar
>>282041669any yoshita.jpg posts are inane headcanon babble that will eventually devolve into coping when they never happen
>>282041721Guess who is in pic related.
>>282041717i am skinny though
>>282041730>most of them say he's deadLet's go Yoshidagods, our boy is still alive
>>282041780post tummy
In T minus 11 days>*looks around* WHERE DID YOSHIDA GO? THAT WAS A WIERD WAY OF SAYING GOODBYE. WELL, THE PIZZA WAS GREAT I GUESS.>WHA? WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SCHOOL? AND WHAT'S WITH THIS DOOR??>OH HI POCHITA. WHAT'S THAT? DON'T OPEN IT? SILLY POCHITA, I CAN'T JUST STAY HERE IN THE DARKNESS WITH THESE ASTRONAUTS. I NEED TO GO FIND FUMIKO, LIL D AND YORU SO I CAN MARRY, FUCK, KILL THEM. OK SEE YA! *waves*
>>282041798i am not a slut
>Chainsaw Man selling less than Kaiju 8 with a movie coming outIt's over
>>282041801>I NEED TO GO FIND FUMIKO, LIL D AND YORU SO I CAN MARRY, FUCK, KILL THEM. OK SEE YA! *waves*kekarooooooo
>>282041535>>282041577cope, she is irrelevant to part 2
>>282041717I will use up to four seats (three for free) in the movie and you will get a sold out warning, I'll laugh and you'll cope
>>282041809it's okay, posting tummy won't make you a slut
>>282041809You will never be a woman too
>NPC #8That reflects more poorly on Japanese taste than anything else
>>282041818>selling lessI don't think the sales for vol 22 are out yet, but yeah, I'm sure it will flop. All we had that volume is KEKji screaming and crying, and let's not forget the jobbing too.
>>282041831Averge Asasissy seethe
>>282041861They dropped shart2 en masse so that tells us something good about their taste
>>282041752Asa and Yoshida's son. I couldn't think of a name for him.
>>282041870Don't call them that, it arouses them.
>>282041863Shoseki first day sales are outhttp://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-5380.html?sp
>>282041870>Averge Asasissy seethehe even made a typo, he is angry
>>282041872fact
>>282041913sells better than i thought it would, must be the movie hype
>>282041686Lmao
>>282041913I mean that doesn't tell us anything. Kaijuu 8 is a well selling manga selling over 300k copies, meanwhile CSM flopped to 130k. We need actual numbers Micro.
Pit sex
>P thread floppedkek a roo
>>282041818>>282041863>>282041872I don't even like Kaiju 8 and i fucking hate it but K8 was objectively speaking far more popular CSM ever was in Japan, like pre-anime K8 outsold Part 1 miles ahead. I don't understand why you retards act surprised with K8 doing better.
>>282041652>GODshiAsaBased Drawyuta. Poor SHITru still stuck in KEKji's harem despite cucking him with two Bvlls, Americhad and Nuke-sama. Not fair.
>>282041721That's because they're both Kishibe's bastard babies, of course. Wait until Asa realizes she used to ovulate at the sight of her step-brother
>>282041652GODyuta please add fami to denji's couch
>>282042007I hope you realize that you are indirectly saying that Yoshida is a cuckold as well.
>>282042019>she used to ovulate at the sight of her step-brotherDon't give Fujimoto ideas. You know his into siblingcest, right?
>>282042049you can only be a cuckold if you are in a relationship with someone
>>282041652GODyuta, don't do what this >>282042035 anon says. Poor Fami didn't even interact with TURDji, except dragging him around like a trash bag.
>>282041962>>282041971>>282041994Any hope of CSM becoming the next big thing like SnK or JJK is confirmed over if it can't even beat K8. The Reze movie wasn't enough
>>282042051>You know his into siblingcest, right?Yeah, and it's based
>>282042035Good idea
>>282041903Yoshida is gay,
>>282042084Yep. It's over. MAPPA killed the csm ip
>>282042079chu he drew a picture for you recently don't be greedy
>look CSM wasn't #1 on da list
>>282042079DOGji belongs to all the horsefus.
>>282041550The door from Denji's dream. It was foreshadowing on him opening to door for Makima banging Powy, and him opening the door when his drunk dad was home. The thing is that doors on CSM also symbolize devil realms. Each devil is behind a special door, and each devil door looks different. Hell is full of doors, as we saw in International Assassins' arc, and every devil has a uniquely designed door. Death devil for example had her door shown on her cover, and the same door appeared again in Falling arc, meaning the realm where Falling sent them was Death's realm. Denji will once again be faced with a door because there's millions of doors in hell, and his job is to follow Pochita's advice and not open it. His last mistake was opening the door for Power's death scene.
>>282042129Your thread is flopping, Pee
>>282042129Why are moid fans like this? Constant fanbase dick measuring contests
>>282042123What?
>>282042129Axe soon
Chadmoto revolutionized the industry
>>282041981It always does. That's what happens when you act like an obnoxious attention-whoring tranny 24/7, everyone runs away from you.
>>282042129see>>282042084If you don't understand after this then you're unfixable
>>282042085Sure it is.
lol
>>282042195I guess that is why there hasn't been any good shonen for half a decade
>>282042049A cuckold is someone who got dumped/left behind in the dirt/replaced for a new love interest, retard.
There have been a lot of good shonen in recent years, actually.
>>282042253like what?
>>282042250said Yoru while wrapping her hand around Denji's cock
>>282041818Daily Shoseki (Sept 4th)>1. Kaiju No. 8 #19>2. Chainsaw Man #22>3. Black Clover #37>4. Kinnikuman #89>5. Girl Meets Rock #8Grim or not grim?
>>282042199Remember when he spammed that "he is a lesbian" while posting P&S pics for 2 days?
>>282042297it would be grim if it sold worse than black clover, this is average
>>282042250Tsunderu still loves Dogji.
>>282042274centuria, drama queen, ichi the witch and kagurabachi
>>282042297>Black CloverI thought the Axe Devil got this one
>>282042348>centuriacurrent arc is boring>drama queen, ichi the witch and kagurabachiall flops
creepy asa
>>282042348Plus Exorcist Fall in Love and Tower Dungeon
>>282042153>Door schizo returns
>>282042348Drama Queen fell off from its first chapter premise massively
asa calls you loser, what do you do?
>>282042400Good
>>282041593I explained it here >>282042153In this pic we see a devil's unique door. It could probably be Death devil's because the same door-glass design appeared behind her in her cover image. We also saw thousands of other doors in hell, and every devil is behind one.
>>282042400The yellow color scheme in Yoshida's cover implies that he blows himself the fuck up.
>>282042423>
>>282042364It just got banished to a magazine I can't remember
>>282042423Blackmail into daily rape
>>282042348Which one of these will become the next SnK, JJK, or even KnY?Which one will become the next CSM?
P LOST
>>282042400What's the problem faggot? It's a fact that in Chainsaw Man every door opens a devil's realm. If someone dies and is sent to limbo, it makes sense for them to be faced with a door. Denji's choice was always between opening or not opening a door. Likely the door he opens will be Control devil's door, and he gets blown the fuck up all over again.
>>282042436Cool idea that every door is asignated to 1 specific devil.
Asa and Denji's last moments on Earth, as God's light illuminates everything and the New Earth begins.
>>282042084>>282042208At this point caring if doesn't reach the same level as JJK or SnK is dumb because CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two. Being a modest success is okay sometimes.
>>282042463>SnK, JJK, or even KnY?none,all their manga sells poorly. kgb MAYBE could reach part1 level sales after anime boost but even then i doubt it.
>>282042501The first reply was meant to >>282042208
>>282042484It appeared that way in International Assassins when Darkness plopped out of a specific door. The door from Denji's dream looks the same as the door behind Makima in her cover image.
>>282042501>CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those twoNot in Japan. Part 1 outsold pre-anime JJK, if trigger or Science Saru had adapted csm instead of crappa it would have been bigger than JJK
there's some heavy samefagging happening in this thread
why is whoru like this
>>282042546hell, even studios like cygames would have served, but crappa's horrible schedules fucked up everything.
>>282042501>At this point caring if doesn't reach the same level as JJK or SnK is dumb because CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two.Ahh, the reddit cope
>>282042489Treeji sweet dreams are made of this...
>>282041994I'm not dumbass. I just told him it doesn't mean anything, because Kaiiju sells in the 300+ k's, meanwhile CSM's last record was 130-140k
>>282042546I doubt it, i have seen people dropping CSM during Eternity Devil arc and Katana Man arc. Chainsaw Man has multiple aspects that limits the reach of a massive audience like JJK or even K8 have.
>>282042501CSM didn't even manage to outsell my dress up darling kek
>>282042624See >>282042084
>>282042546>Science SaruAnons called me crazy for wanting Science Saru to get chainsaw man over Mappa. Well look who's laughing now.(and somehow I got the better end of the monkey paw so far).
>>282042655Ok?
>>282042638these are just facts anon, csm part 1 sold 480k~ in the last volume
RAPEsa must be contained...
people don't want to buy a manga with a character like Asa in itthat's just the truth
>>282042501>CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two.>CSM is so deep and experimental that the normies just wont understand it.Why are Fujimototards like this? CSM is peak mass appeal slop.
>>282042685Meanwhile by volume 13 JJK was selling 300k~
>>282042569
>>282042707I'm sorry your thread flopped Pee. Spamming AsaDEAD ain't gonna bring it back from the dead.
>>282042084The reze movie isn't even out yet>>282042501>At this point caring if doesn't reach the same level as JJK or SnK is dumb because CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those twoIf that was the chase mappa themselves would have never bothered to pick up Chainsaw man and retardedly put 100 percent investment into it.
>>282042581Are you telling me it's "reddit" for outright saying that caring CSM being the next big thing at this point and saying doesn't have a massive appeal? because it had its chance and failed miserably, this is like crying over spilled milk. You have two options which are crying and whining about CSM not being the next thing or shut the fuck up and move on.
>>282042707Femdom Asa = Thrid hawk
>>282042664Some people thought the movie was going to save the series, like back to S1 levels or even better. The movie probably won't make that much either
>>282042707Yogur is going to be a dom
>>282042750HEROfumi just sent SCATji into hell, so the story might actually recover and become the next big thing again. Never lose hope. I'm not saying it will, I'm just saying the last chapter's final 2 pages were pure CINEMA.
>>282042713Good job for putting words on my mouth, fucking retard. Because i have never mentioned that CSM was some deep and high IQ manga.
>>282042715You shouldn't compare it with volume 13 because the anime was airing back then, JJK pre anime (volume 12) sold just above the 250k mark.
>>282042767I didn't think it would, but I am saying we need to see the actual numbers first. Those come out next week.
>>282042750It had the potential for mass appeal if the anime and Part 2 weren't garbage. I thought you were implying its content was too niche for mass appeal rather than the content being trash
>>282042713don't know about that
nakayamaGOD... i kneel, thank you for destroying csm's sales forever
>>282042685>>282042715Yeah, but CSM during Part 1 ending had the anime announcement tied to it and JJK doing less pre-anime aren't indicators that would apply during the anime release which we know how that went.
>>282042713Nta but he’s right, CSM doesn’t really have much normie appeal, doesn’t have to do with it being deep or not
>>282042862Imbecile, the dragon helped in the sales. Was fujimoto who killed the sales
>>282042743Honestly it probably won't have that much of an impact or else it would have been released alongside the movie
>>282042829Sexualbaits are the most mass appeal slop you can ever make, that chapter has highest viewership btw of the whole part2.
>>282042880>CSM doesn’t really have much normie appealretard
I blame p and poo for destroying the threads...
>>282042828So, you have chosen crying and whine about Chainsaw Man not being the next big thing, then cry more like salty little bitch that his favorite thing didn't become mainstream.
>>282042883So you're also in the camp of reze herself not returning in the manga?
>>282042919Good eye, judicator.
>>282042923You have a point ngtl
>>282042867>but CSM during Part 1 ending had the anime announcementJJK's anime was announced 1 year after it started, just like csm, you have no excuses.
>>282042305i member
>>282042940It doesn't matter at this point
>>282042640CSM did outsold it unless you are talking recent volumes, because even my dress up darling anime boost lasted far more time than CSM anime boost ever did.
>>282042882if the dragon helped the sales then volume 13 would have hit 1 million copies
>>282042305Now that you mention it, I remember. I tend to forget abysmally retarded cringe-inducing shit. It's a defense mechanism.
seriously what did he meant by this
>>282042889>that chapter has highest viewership btw of the whole part2.No it doesn't, and stuff like that pushes away the "masses", even if the shock factor might implore some people to view that particular chapter. Hence, why you'd never see something like that in a series like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, etc.
>>282042969i was explicitly talking about the recent volumes, because even romcom slop where the sole plot is will they/won't they fuck had better reader retention rates than shart2
>>282042862>>282042882>>282042970Nakayama was the catalyst for kneecapping its potential. Part 2 was the final nail in the coffin
>>282043004Denji's a homo. More news at 11.
>>282043010>why you'd never see something like that in a series like One Piece, , Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, etc.Kubo draws fanservice 1000 times better than redditmoto
>>282043004Homo implications aside>Ha, you can't manipulate me with pussy>*manipulates him with grub*
>>282042950JJK anime had season 1 that was well received in Japan then a prequel movie after the anime ended meanwhile CSM got a season 1 that had mixed reception with the compilation outright fixing the complaints the japanese audience had then 3 years of silence for any sort of sequel. No fucking shit JJK would peform better meanwhile CSM didn't meet expectations.
>>282043004Denji fantasizes with men (he was raped as a child by the yakuza)
>>282043004Why is fujimoto so fucking gay
>>282043010>No it doesn'tIt does the stats are publicly available.> and stuff like that pushes away the "masses"No it doesn't, Denji's monologue afterwards got mass praise normies eat that the shit up because its "deep".
>>282043071You don't understand my point, JJK outsold csm precisely because mappa fucked up with the anime, if the license had been given to a better studio CSM would have outsold it
>>282043040NTA but that fanservice is genuinely tame compared to actual handjob or onscreen lesbian orgy.
>>282042889>that chapter has highest viewership btw of the whole part2
>>282043090Tokyo Ghoul had a shit anime and it still sold millions and got a massive boost. CSM is just dogshit and Part 2 was the nail in the coffin.
>>282043040But you'll never see Yoruichi jerking off Ichigo in a series like Bleach. It's all just teasing and basic fanservice (women being drawn with massive tits and asses).Not the sort of crude sexual encounters that Fujimoto draws where the dude is left confused what the fuck just happened to him.
>>282043101>actual handjob or onscreen lesbian orgyall worthless if the mangaka who draws them doesn't make the girls sexy
>>282043106I'm pretty sure that image is outdated alongside Jump+ tends to reset viewership count.
>>282043123Anon, that is just subjective opinion but objectively Kubo never went that far in Bleach.
Saint Valentine's Day chapter when
>>282043121Yoruichi's fat sexy ass in full view is braver than whatever fujimoto scribbles
>>282043084You're confusing some Twitter/reddit whackjobs for "the masses".
>>282043126I trust josu_ke a lot more than you. Besides, how could the hj chapter have more views than the first chapter of Part 2, when everyone was still excited about it?
>>282043114Tokyo Ghoul anime didn't make the Japanese audience wanting to burn down the studio or wanted the director being gone from the anime.
>>282043152>subjective opinionIt's an objective fact, if you can't cum to the manga's drawings alone then the mangaka is shit at fanservice
>>282043181The problem is that he hasn't updated the image again, you are using outdated information.
>>282043189Newfags shouldnt speak on times they werent here for
>>282043004He really said fyi out loud
>>282042923I am saying Part 2 is selling badly because it is bad
>>282043211Anon, if i wanted to jack off i would just watch porn than cumming over fanservice in a manga book.
>>282043155>whenSaint Valentine day, presumably
>>282043156You sound like a kid. I don't think you can really understand the difference of showing some ass (which pretty much every manga does), and having a Devil (who also occupies a girl's body against their will) sexually advancing on a guy.Showing some Yoruichi ass makes dudes happyWhat happened with Denji and Yoru leaves people pretty confused and even depressed to see their MC sink so low. It's not really "fanservice".
>>282043231See >>282042923
>P shilling Bleachgo back
>>282043247What is the point of drawing a lesbian orgy if not for fanservice? Fujimoto clearly intended it to be so, it's just that he can't draw sexy women even if his life depended on it
>>282043213Why would the hj chapter get 6x the amount of views in order to beat ch 98 out of nowhere, when it peaked at ~3 million views by 2 months?
>>282043260>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY GOONSLOP IS LE DEEP BRO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MEkill yourself worthless faggot
>>282043214I know people complained here but Tokyo Ghoul adaptation didn't had the same amount of hatred CSM S1 had in Japan.
>>282043261So, you accept the series is trash but you're too much of a slop eater to want something better
>>282043287He isn't saying is deep but you can't understand that tame fanservice isn't same as actual sexual acts.
>>282043287Like I said, you sound like a kid based on the terminology you're using, so I don't really expect much maturity out of you.That particular scene wasn't really "goonslop". It's pretty crude stuff, just two people awkwardly making out and having confused feelings over it.The 193 chappy is a better example of "fanservice". But at this moment the death of Nayuta was still hanging over the head of Denji so it was pretty shocking and ugly to see Denji in a situation like this when the "masses" expected him to go on some type of Nayuta rescue mission.Anyway, like I said, you're a kid so I don't expect you to understand such things.
>>282043316I don't base my personality and taste on popularity or sales.
What would happen if all of Ito's monsters emerged in CSM World? Could earth survive?
>>282043342That has nothing to do with Part 2 being shit
>>282043317>>282043330Nigger stop pretending people here thought it was crude or shit like that, i was on here and i read all the mangaplus comments and people were cheering and clapping like porn addicts>But at this moment the death of Nayuta was still hanging over the head of Denji so it was pretty shocking and ugly to see Denji in a situation like this when the "masses" expected him to go on some type of Nayuta rescue mission.No one gives a fuck about Nayuta, the last readers csm has only want to see denji fuck
>>282043342A shart poo enjoyer has no right to call out the taste of others
>>282043260>>282043330>What happened with Denji and Yoru leaves people pretty confused and even depressedYou're delusional, the reaction was mostly "giwtwm" and "i want to fuck yoru"
im a part two enjoyer
>>282043414Reddit...
>>282043414>Posts something that doesn't happen in part two.
>>282043378>Moving goalpostsThe people who comment on mangaplus are fan of the work already. Try to show the handjob scene or lesbian orgy page to anyone that isn't fan of the series then look at their reaction.
>>282043378>No one gives a fuck about NayutaI do>the last readers csm has only want to see denji fuckI still hope he eventually grows as a character
>>282043414
>>282043378See, the problem here is that you think that the reactions on 4chan's /csm/ (with maybe 12 unique IPs) determine what's appealing to the "masses".You're just completely losing the plot and shifting goalposts from the original argument which was to point out the fact that scenes like that aren't really appealing to the masses, which is why you never see them in a series that have mass appeal. like One Piece, or DBZ, or other franchises like that.Yeah, they might appeal to the "last readers csm has" but those aren't the masses.
>>282043409literally this, what a fucking braindead faggot kek.>>282043426>The people who comment on mangaplus are fan of the work alreadyexcept it was all over twitter, 4chan and reddit and most of the reactions were like this>>282043409
>>282043432None of them are gay, reddit nigger
Good night I fucking hate Reze
>>282043376>>282043399Oh, what is wrong the salty little bitches are crying that CSM didn't became the next big thing? what absolutely pathetic behavior. If you don't like Part 2 then that is your personal opinion and i'm fine with it.
>>282043432He really hated this one, chief.
>>282043447How many guys on /csm/ and reddit do you think are buying the volumes?
>>282043444>scenes like that aren't really appealing to the massesFANservice draws the masses IN. YOU RETARD. when people see yoru bouncing on denji's cock they want to read it. when people see makima/reze in panties they want to read it, when people see yoru make out with denji they want to read it. that's the point of fan service, you faggot.
>>282043466Fuck you
Don’t ever forget that Reze will forever remain irrelevant.
>>282043447Reposted by fans of the series and people that don't represent the masses.
>>282043487Japan loves fanservice you braindead animal. They aren't buying new volumes because the girls in said fanservice aren't sexy.
>>282043470You're the one sperging out about us talking about how CSM could have been much more impactful if it was good as if we're personally insulting you
>>282043488Why do you think you never see Bulma bouncing on Vegeta's cock, or Orihime bouncing on Ichigo's cock, or Hancock bouncing on Luffy's cock, or Hinata bouncing on Naruto's cock?Because that limits mass appeal. Works that deal with sexuality as a major theme are niche compared to the franchises that have true "mass appeal".
>>282043510The handjob chapter was the most read chapter of the entire year in the jump+, if that's not the masses then idk what it is
>>282043488>FANservice draws the masses If that was the case then Senran Kagura outsell GTA 5 and Mario or High School DxD would outsell One Piece and Dragon Ball.
>>282043492She is literally getting a movie
>>282043561>Senran Kaguralolis are not fanservice to normal people
>>282043528I'm not even sperging out and you guys act like little children that their favorite thing isn't popular as JJK or SnK.
>>282043466>>282043492not like this my baberinos
>>282043539>Works that deal with sexuality as a major theme are nichenigger csm was outselling jjk before the anime, you have no arguments here, kill yourself.
>>282043561the problem is High School DxD only has fanservice to offer. Early dragon ball had both fan service and an adventure plot
>his thread flops>spams this thread with AsaDung
>>282043666>bunny outfit bulmaI remember jacking off to thatI wish I was Beejeeta
>>282043606Then why are you still replying to me if you aren't sperging out? I'm obviously not addressing this to you
>McPoopDickposter is having an OMEGA melty
Yoshida>My role is a switch.Asa>My role is the executioner.Perfect teamwork. She did it for her dream.
newfriends here don't know every shonen back then had wild fanservice
I am once again posting that Yoshida = (this) Fakesaw Man.The "real" Fakesaw Man, the one who killed Yuko and saved AsaDen.Yoshida is the only one who would have a motive to kill Yuko as she knew of Denji = CSM.He's going to "switch" into the role of Chainsaw Man.
>>282043786Fakesaman plot was already solved, stop being delusional.
>>282043623Denji's sexuality was much less of a theme in P1, you never had him sloppily making out with a Devil on a street corner, or trying to go into a brothel after a member of his family went missing, or crying that his dick leads him to making bad decisions.Again, all of that stuff was intended to be more depressing than "fanservice". "Fanservice" would be us just getting a peek of Asa's panties while she's fighting a Devil or something.
>>282043743Anon, the author of FT is build different.
I miss Part 1 so much it's unreal
>>282043786He's not brainlet. Yoshida wore white sneakers only 20 minutes before this scene happened. He still wore the same sneakers when he fed Denji blood. This guy is wearing black shoes.
>>282043540Most chapters from SxF had more views that year
>>282043839i'm talking about west-only views
>>282043685he is spamming this thread to bump limit so we use his, classic pee
>>282043824Still never ever had two characters making out. Not even a kiss.
>>282043863HOLY TRVKE
>>282043861It won't work. We'll make a new one.
>>282043817>Denji's sexuality was much less of a theme in P1holy brainlet>you never had him sloppily making out with a Devil on a street cornerpeople loved that>trying to go into a brothel after a member of his family went missingpeople loved that and called katanaman a real bro for helping denji out>Again, all of that stuff was intended to be more depressing than "fanservice".Nigger denji getting a handjob was a massive fanservice.>"Fanservice" would be us just getting a peek of Asa's panties while she's fighting a Devil or something.
>>282043897
>>282043904It's an objective fact, no one can read P1 and P2 and think to themselves that Denji's sexuality is given an equal amount of focus in P1 compared to P2.Again you're only bringing up reddit takes which I'm not particularly interested in.Like I said,the masses =/= reddit or /csm/
>>282043904I clicked send by mistake>>"Fanservice" would be us just getting a peek of Asa's panties while she's fighting a Devil or something.Oh you mean like seeing Yoru's ass in thight jeans while she is kneeling?Or Getting a peak on death's ass when she flips her skirt up?Or Seeing asa in panties when she fought yuko?Or Getting a page solely dedicated to denji looking at Asa's ass while she is fighting falling?
>>282043839Stop posting these retarded ass charts when the literal website called it the most viewed chapter of 2024.
>>282043950biting asa nipple
>>282043946>no one can read P1 and P2 and think to themselves that Denji's sexuality is given an equal amount of focus in P1 compared to P2.Fujimoto is obviously evolving denji's sexual acts to increase the reader's attention retard. But they were still there in part 1, the conclusion of denji's arc in part 1 was that he proudly screamed about how much he wanted to have sex with 10 girlfriends
>>282042765>>282042792If Asa is the dominant personality in Yogurt, which she'll likely be, Yogurt will 100% be a dom. Just look at how Asa was at the end of Aquarium.
>>282043951>she is fighting falling?*he
yoshida is such a nothing characterget lebowski'd i guess. glorified comic strip, at least it takes no effort to read.
>>282043965He already clarified it here >>282043849He said Jump+ when he meant Manga Plus for western views.Spy x Family's average views still mogged CSM's best chapter in 2024 in Japan, where it matters
>YogurtYour fanfics will never happen Pee.
last thing you see
>>282043487I bought part 1's special editions but I sure as hell ain't spending money on anything p2 related
2 more weeks Babs, volumen cover leak btw
This retard really is trying to convince me people are turned off by the sex things kek, bro that's one of the few things csmid has left
>>282043951These are much better examples of fanservice, yes. The average reader is fine with getting a peek at the panties, but when the story starts shifting into a work that deals with sexuality on a deeper level, it becomes more niche in its appeal.The average dude doesn't really want to be made to think what the implications of Denji's sex addiction might be, or how confusing it might be for him to go through a sexual encounter for the first time. They just want to see boobs. They just want to see ass. That's it.This is why I said Fujimoto's writing style for P2 limits its mass appeal. They don't want to see Denji slumped down in a street corner after sloppily making out with a Devil who is for all intents and purposes the antagonist.Sure, there's a sizeable niche audience that enjoys that, but its not the mass audience. It's not the "everyman's" fantasy.
>>282044099>a work that deals with sexuality on a deeper level>csmThis has to be bait.
>>282044099>They don't want to see Denji slumped down in a street corner after sloppily making out with a Devil who is for all intents and purposes the antagonistNigger that was literally the most popular chapter csm had in years, you have no argument. Kill yourself.
>>282044086>Cuckji removedAmazing cover
>>282044139>BaitThen why did you take it? Are you stupid?
>>282044086IT WILL TAKE A WAR
>>282044091>>282044139>>282044147NTA but the handjob chapter didn't move the needle outside of social media nor Denji looking at Death Devil panties and Fumiko nudes did anything. Sexual stuff aren't exactly massive appeal for a bigger audience.
>>282044099CSM not being mainstream isn't because it's niche. CSM isn't mainstream because it's bad
>>282044238salescholar....
>>282044214It's a local peak for viewersAlso, it's progress for denji's stated goal of having sex and getting girlsfriends. It's a rare CSM chapter with character development
Part 2 feels like the kind of series that’s frustrating to read week by week, but will be looked back on fondly once it’s over.
Death to all Salesfaggots
>>282043994>Fujimoto is obviously evolving denji's sexual acts to increase the reader's attention retard. If that was the case then Fujimoto would pull a Tokyo Ghoul: RE chapter 125 be done with it because we know he has the balls to do it. I don't buy it that he is doing it for reader's attention.
>>282044214People don't want to buy it because besides the fanservice csm is worthless, and as a profesional coomer i can safely say the fanservice is of extremely low quality.
>>282044298Then why retards act like is a big factor if that was the case.
>>282044279You won't do shit about it
>>282044292He is obviously saving it for the endgame
>>282044298Based. Luckily with COOMERji removed now, the story can improve, and maybe with it the sales too.
>>282044139Compare the way CSM handles sexuality to One Piece, Bleach, JJK, Naruto, DBZ, etc. I'm not saying it's some ultra deep psychological series, yet it's absolutely clear that it treats that particular theme more deeply than the truly massive shonen franchises.>>282044147You can't seem to be able to fathom that while shock factor can bring in a good-sized niche audience (that may only look at that one particular chapter), it can also turn away the true mass audience.Lin and Fujimoto themselves have both pointed out that CSM does not attempt to go for the general Jump audience. Instead, they try to pick some people outside of the expected audience of a Jump manga, to diversify the demographic of the Jump audience.In specific, Fujimoto referred to his audience as the kind of people who have gotten sick of the expected manga tropes and the lack of ambition by writers, and thus read Fujimoto's works in order to see something that might actually surprise them.
>>282044317You are such an idiot. The whole fight is because one anon thinks the fanservice is turning people off, when that is exactly the opposite. Fanservice is one of the last few things csm has left. The writing, the drawings, the cast, the pacing, the schedule are all dogshit
Reposting my take on part 2 as someone who read the whole thing for the first time last weekI'd say it's still fun, but its painful because it used to be an 8/10 and now it's a 5/10Part 2 failed at many thingsIt failed at rebuilding an interesting cast, Asa being the only real character.It failed at developing Denji trough Nayuta, he's stuck to his old self forever and Nayuta is deadIt failed at worldbuilding by expanding on the questions the reader had at the end of part 1 about public safety, the nature of pochita, the nature of devils and why they can be redeemed, how Makima came to be as she was and what role the government played in it, even how the fuck Nayuta ended up in Kishibe's hands. Instead, it created even more questions that will never be answered.It failed at creating interestings villains to string the plot along, Reze, Makima, the assassins, the looming threat of the gun devil, part 1 kept the reader on edge, part 2 just kind of happens, one nonsensical event after the otherIt failed at continuing part 1's setup. Denji is not tracking down the blood devil, we never see his highschool shenanigans, and we never see how he actually raises Nayuta. Instead we go on some odd "church of the chainsaw" adventure.Part 2 feels directionless, empty, devoid of all the characters and tension that made part 1 good.That is not to say I straight up hate the characters in it, or straight up hate the plot in it, it's still passable, hence a 5 and I will keep reading, but it could have been much better
>>282044354>You can't seem to be able to fathom that while shock factor can bring in a good-sized niche audience (that may only look at that one particular chapter), it can also turn away the true mass audience.You are a fucking braindead moron. the thing that turns away the mass audience is that fujimoto puts minimal efforts on making the manga. People love the sex aspects of CSM, as i have already explained with proof over and over.
A lot of sour grapes and seething going on ITT.Last thread was more fun.
>>282044372You are fucking retarded because you are exactly saying people only care about fanservice then saying "well CSM fanservice isn't good". Fanservice doesn't fucking sell or work as appeal for a bigger audience.
>>282044326You are retarded, Amachu.
>>282044440this thread was made purely out of spite for the powerfag
Can MAPPA fucking stop giving the flatties tits?Flat kino deserves to exist.
>>282044354Nah, Part 2 is just bad. That's why it lost 80% of its sales
Jeremy or micro, call it
>>282044483It's fine like this, flat chest is for enlightened patricians such as you and I, not for the anime watching masses
>>282044446Yes i am saying csm fanservice isn't good, because fujimoto draws like a 12 year old. But it still attracts the low quality gooners, see all the people that salivated at fami's horribly drawn omake a few days ago>Fanservice doesn't fucking sell or work as appeal for a bigger audience.HOLY FUCKINGRETARDEDEVERY BIG SHONEN HAS FANSERVICE. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.
>>282044529I don't remember jjk having anySure, some character like Mei Mei are hot but it doesn't have straight up fanservice.
>>282044503Mengo...
>>282044526If Part 2 isn't bad, then why did it lose 80% of its sales in just 8 volumes?
>>282044483They better not ruin Asa
>>282044546>I don't remember jjk having anyit had fanservice for fujos
>>282044086extremely sad cope rezecuck
I feel like I say this every new chappy, but this chappy and two week break is nigh insufferable.Threads have been the most absolute garbage yet, and that's saddening because the threads already went to shit over the past two years.
>>282044529You stupid fucking retarded moron, KnY isn't popular because of fucking fanservice. Holy shit what kind of delusional moron you have to be to believe this, KnY fanservice isn't the main focus or main theme of that manga.
You know what would be cool? If the next chapter was another one with 45+ pages like 102, filled with flashbacks and vital decisions. We see how Yoru/Asa and Yoshida met and organized this sting operation on the school, and more importantly why they chose to be in cahoots. It ends with Asa weaponizing Cuckji and the battle against Death devil begins. We have 4 hybrids + Fami + Death and her other pokemon against Yoru and whomever else is on her side besides Yoshida. A refreshing chapter that has both action, emotional flashbacks and meaning. But I fear we might get another 15 pages of nothing but copy-pasted reaction faces with characters just standing around talking.
>Mad about fun CUTEmine lewds
>>282044478And now powerfag is ruining it by being a debbie downer and shitflinging with Micro.
>>282044372That's a misrepresentation of the argument. Innocent fanservice can help sell a manga, but that's not really what Fuji's so-called "fanservice" is about. It's rarely the type of fanservice that leaves the average reader feeling good about it while the manga moves on like nothing happened, as is the case in most manga.Those moments end up having consequences on the events of the story and the MC's psyche. He's just spiraling deeper and deeper down because of this so-called "fanservice".That's not really something that the mass audience looks forward to reading. They don't want to think that it's bad for the protagonist to get a grope of boobs and some ass.
>>282044575>KnY isn't popular because of fucking fanservice.I never said this you stupid retard. My whole point is that fanservice isn't a "turn off" like some morons here claim it is. It's what catches the attention of the main audience: horny teenagers/young adults
It's Jeremy lmao
>>282044440The entire thread feels like a bunch of faggots being butthurt that their favorite series didn't became the next big thing and can't accept their series being moderate success. Like crying about it or shitting on Part 2 isn't going magically make CSM super popular like SnK, KnY or JJK during their peak popularity.
>>282044588When has there ever been a 45+ page chapter in anything but a monthly manga?
>>282044622>It's rarely the type of fanservice that leaves the average reader feeling good about itLiterally every single chapter when anything sexual happens "OMG SEX SEX SEX! SHES SO HOT, LOOK AT THAT ASS!"
>>282044622>It's rarely the type of fanservice that leaves the average reader feeling good about ityeah because his drawings are ugly, it's still decent enough for the masses though. >They don't want to think that it's bad for the protagonist to get a grope of boobs and some ass.Because it's not you stupid retard, denji's whole problem is that he has a fucking devil in his heart so people want to kill him for it. Sex is one of the few joys he has in his shitty life.
>>282044683Chapter 102 in Part 2.
>>282044588>If the next chapter was another one with 45+ pages like 102Yeah, it's called the Reze comeback
>>282044629KnY didn't became popular with kids, teenagers, adults and old people because of fucking fanservice and most talk of KnY during serialization was the story.
>>282044683Also chapter 98, but that was the opening chapter so it's an exception.
>>282044565NTA but only in the anime, the manga was lacked any fujo fanservice.
>>282044677Losing 80% percent of your sales isn't exactly a moderate successImagine buying a stock that lost 80% of its value from its peak
>It's another episode of faggot Anons wanted "mature" bishonen Dadji on around the world adventures with sidekick 'Yuta, searching for the Blood Devil by day, kicking ass as Chainsaw Man by night, featuring a reoccurring cast of zany auntie and uncle Kobeni and Kishibe, and don't forget the dogs, and especially Meowy!
>>282044695>Because it's not you stupid retard, denji's whole problem is that he has a fucking devil in his heart so people want to kill him for it. Sex is one of the few joys he has in his shitty life.You're dumb as a bag of fucking hammers if you don't see how Fuji is portraying Denji's uncontrolled lust as a bad thing. It makes him vulnerable to being exploited, and it makes him act irresponsible towards the people that actually love him.His obsession with sex has made him give up on things that did bring him happiness.It's not sex in itself that is portrayed as bad, but Denji's lust and his lack of self-control.But again, this is not really something that the masses care to read about. They'd rather see Denji bringing down badass Devils while getting the odd peek at Asa's ass and Falling's bouncing breasts.
>>282044743the anime is what made JJK popular
Friendly reminder
>>282044754Yes, I like when the setup of part 1 is used properlyThat said, not "around the world", Denji has school first.
>>282044703Not a weekly drawn manga. Was drawn during a 1½ year hiatus, which is why parts of it were leaked well in advance.Do you really think anyone's going to draw 45 pages with that quality in a week?
>>282044715You unironically think Reze caused the explosion? Bab, listen, if Reze was responsible, there would have been no need for Yoshida to be there. Yoshida acted as a "switch" to the attack, and Reze does not need that, but Yoru does because she cannot simply enter the building and chit-chat with Denji when she's the main opponent they're expecting to fight. They needed someone who could enter without the danger of being immediately attacked, someone who could get very close to Denji physically and act as a switch for weaponization. Reze has nothing to do with this gimmick.
how powerfull is the white devil?
>>282044754Yes, we wanted Part 2 to be better
>>282044764>and it makes him act irresponsible towards the people that actually love him.there is no one that actually loves him because fujimoto killed them all, and they all died because makima/death wanted them death. His cock had nothing to do with it.>>282044724I mean obviously not, but fanservice draws people in, that's the whole point of it.
>>282044786He had a 100 break weeks time to draw bigger chapters on the side. We're in a break week now.
>>282044793It got nerfed by the white guilt devil that the West bought into
>>282044802>wanted them deathwanted them dead*
>>282044744Stop thinking about the manga sales and decline for 1 second and look the bigger picture. Chainsaw Man is moderately successful as franchise and manga, it's already in best selling manga of all time and the anime makes money even if isn't doing JJK numbers. Shueisha don't survive with just the manga volume sales alone and make different things for their series to make any profits.
>>282040962There's no choice for Den anymore. Last chapter Yoshida and the PS have decided to eliminate him for good. In the end they only want Pochita. Den might be really permakilled this time.
>>282044780Part 1 never set up that.
>>282044819Yes and he drew Reze art and a mini Reze chappy for movie-goers during that week.Fuji drew with autistic fervor for P1 because his only joy in life is to go to movie theaters, and COVID blocked him from doing that.You'll never see him doing that again.
>>282044792>You unironically think Reze caused the explosion?No, I think she will come back however
>>282044832Part 1 is a moderate success, the rest of CSM is riding off its coattails
>>282044873Maybe, but not this arc though.
>>282044832>it's already in best selling manga of all time Mmm?
>>282044780Those were not supposed to be setup. Those were the tragedies of pt1. Reze never went to school. Nayuta changed for better but still dead by the hands of her followers. Power can never be retrieved. Fujimoto is no happy go lucky power of friendship generic writer.
>>282044849Yeah, it didIt ended with Denji taking care of Nayuta, having promised Power to find her, and going to fight a devil while in a high school uniform.
>>282044895I forgot put list there.Obviously manga like JJK and OP are above of CSM.
>>282044907>Fujimoto is no happy go lucky power of friendship generic writer.I never said those setups had to have a happy ending, part 1 is tragic, just that they had to be usedHe didn't use his own setups, and part 2 is dogshit that doesn't sell as a result
>>282044563Why can't it be that those 80% was the bad one instead? Because they're more crowded so they must be right? Loll
>>282044846>and the PSAsa or Yoru did that with Yoshida. Yoshida is PS in this scenario, he acts on their behalf, meanwhile Yoru is the ally Yoshida was trying hard to win over at the very start of this arc. I believe he succeeded, but as always it happened off screen, because this attack was definitely orchestrated by Yoru. We know because Death and Miri said how Yoru would be there any minute, and when Yoshida approached the school both horseman reacted to his presence. They don't care for Yoshida or Octopus, but Yoshida's presence signified Yoru's presence.
>>282044853No luck then. 15 pages of characters standing around talking is what we'll get.
>>282044877You are stupid because CSM can't be "riding off Part 1 coattails" due Part 1 and 2 being the same manga. Also the japanese don't give shit about previous successes otherwise ask Kishimoto and Squid 8.
>>282044942>Why can't it be that those 80% was the bad one instead?ESLgod at least make sure your post makes sense before hitting submit.
>>282044978>. Also the japanese don't give shit about previous successes otherwise ask Kishimoto and Squid 8.Except Part2 is sold as a direct continuation of Part1, so the readers want to see how denji ends up.
>>282044947Stop forcing Asa and Yoru as ally of Yoshida and Public Safety, they aren't working with them and Yoshida is been shown to be a lapdog of PS. Asa nor Yoru have any reason to attack and kill Denji.
>>282045012Because it's the same fucking manga, they aren't treated as separate works.
Apparently whip hybrid (?) appears next chapter according to chinese leaker D.n
>>282045052>whip hybrid (?Oh lord...
>>282045033So what? GoT is all the same works and yet seasons 1-6 are considered master pieces and seasons 7-8 are hated by everyone, Most people agree JJK fell off after shibuya arc despite being the same manga, etc.
>>282044939>his own setupsThere's no setup here. In Fuji's worlds, what are planned never means they will be done or accomplished. Fuji likes his stories to be realistic in that aspect.
>>282045052the last time i heard chinese "leakers" making predictions, they were full of shit
>>282045052who?
>we will never see the aging primal fight impeccably animated by the DRAGONThe "fans" fucked up so bad
>ITT: Salesfaggots meltdownIt seems a lot of people resented over the fact that CSM didn't became the next big thing. Like just accept it and move on.
>>282045089>1-6Real scholars know seasons 5 and 6 were dogshit as well though
>>282045110yeah, people here will do anything to cope about it, they even pretend the jerk off chapter was a turn-off for readers kek
>>282044981Esl or not my post still makes sense. Majority is not always right it's a proven fact.
>>282045095>In Fuji's worlds, what are planned never means they will be done or accomplishedAnd he clearly made the wrong choice>Fuji likes his stories to be realistic in that aspectYeah, part 2 is just too realistic, that's why people don't like it. Too much hard realism.
>>282045089Except they aren't riding on coattails of their previous seasons or arcs because it doesn't work like that.
>>282045109not too interested in seeing cgi slop pochita and aging
>>282045143No it didn't, the 1st line was confusing-
>Movie kino>Omake kino>Absolute seetheRely makes u thunk
>>282045151It does work like that, it is literally what happened, star wars sequels only sold because people loved the franchise
>>282045129I found it funny with people malding over that, because i personally believe even with a perfect season 1 CSM wouldn't be a big next thing. Like seething over Part 2 and decline is plain pathetic behavior in general.
>>282044947This anon is right >>282045017. I don't think AsaRu involved in this operation either. They might be busy looking for Nuke now. This is all PS's work. They want to eliminate Denji and snatch Pochita.
doesn't wipe so the cake has frosting tooyum yum yum
>>282045192true, even with a perfect season 1, shart poo being shart poo would have turned off the vast majority of new readers anyways
Yoshize was the true endgame right here bros
>>282045180>star wars sequels only sold because people loved the franchiseYou have to be underage because people fucking hated the prequels when they came out with mainstream media making fun of them, this coming from someone who liked Revenge of the Sith when it came out. The prequel trilogy nor sequel trilogy received any love for them from part of the public with the prequel having nostalgia for it. Star Wars prequels and sequels sold due fanboys and brand recognition.
>>282044683there was a 2 week break before and after this chapter so this one counts as monthly
i always say this to stupid Denji haters.Dude had every single reason to turn into a horrible person, i wouldn't judge if he did.99% of the people he met wants to kill him or manipulate him.The ones that did care about him all died.He had an horrible childhood and upbringing, being a slave to the Yakuza that didn't even fed him properly.>Yet, he's still a good person.
>>282045292That's still a biweekly pace.
>>282045221I mean, yeah. The popularity of the anime is irrelevant when it comes to people who are already reading the manga dropping it, and Part 2 has one of the fastest declines ever.
>>282045273do you think i don't fucking know about how everyone hated jar jar binks or how they called midiclorians retarded and how they called the attack of the clones the worst thing ever made? That's not my point, my point is the sequels sold because the original trilogy was popular, just like how part2 sells only because part 1 is popular
>>282045297>i always say this to stupid Denji haters.I doubt you tell it to 75.4% of Japan's reader base
>>282045221>>282045310Nah, even with Part 2 never existing or appealing to everyone CSM was never going to be big seller like JJK. That is what i personally believe regardless of the anime or manga popularity.
>>282045364Then you are personally retarded because CSM pre-anime and pre-part2 was outselling pre-anime JJK by a 200k margin
>>282045321No, it sold because of fanboys and brand recognition due Star Wars especially when episode 7 came out was seen as a franchise for old dudes. The original trilogy barely played a role on it.
>>282045345Japan loves Denji what are you talking about
>>282045403>came out was seen as a franchise for old dudes>The original trilogy barely played a role on it.low iq poster oh my fauci
>>282045407In bizarro world perhaps.
>>282045386Pre-anime aren't exactly a indicator on how a series will perform after the anime releases like for example Assassination Classroom barely got any anime boost despite being 1 million seller pre-anime.
yuko!
>>282045273>You have to be underage because people fucking hated the prequels when they came out with mainstream media making fun of them, this coming from someone who liked Revenge of the Sith when it came out.NTA but he might have been referring to the OT because the sequels were a continuation to them. Besides people who were born when RoTS came out are 20 now>The prequel trilogy nor sequel trilogy received any love for them from part of the public with the prequel having nostalgia for it. Star Wars prequels and sequels sold due fanboys and brand recognition.You're kind of proving my point. Due to the good will the earlier parts built up, people were invested into it and then it fell off. It's funny how Part 2 and the sequels are similar in ruining their respective franchises
>>282045419It's a fucking fact, kids don't give any shit about Star Wars and the original trilogy.
>>2820454481 million seller is the top of the building, you can't go further than that, especially on such a regular setting like assclass
>>282045420The Death Devil and Falling Sales Devil brought the sales apocalypse.
Keep seething about part2. Fuji will keep doing what Fuji wants to do. Now prepare for multiple chapters of YoshiAsa for the rest of the manga now that Denji is dead for good. Thx PS !
>>282045478When AC came out, the ceiling was far higher and 1M was okay.
>>282045407>Japan loves denjiAlso Japan:>Votes for every other main cast member over Denji in popularity poll>Lets CSM Anime flop>Drops part 2 when Denji returns>Will let CSM: Reze movie flop
>>282045420>part 2 is a 100 chapter long humiliation ritual for Denji >80%+ of the readers drop itYeah, they like Denji.
>>282045493Yuckshitacuck is dead whale, i am happily waiting for the fat ass pics>>282045515doubt it because MHA, JJK and SNK never oversurpassed the 1 million mark
>>282045474>NTA but he might have been referring to the OT because the sequels were a continuation to them. Besides people who were born when RoTS came out are 20 nowOnly the prequels had OT "goodwill" yet were butt of joke for years.>You're kind of proving my point. Due to the good will the earlier parts built up, people were invested into it and then it fell off. It's funny how Part 2 and the sequels are similar in ruining their respective franchisesAre you the same person or what? If Part 2 had the so called "goodwill" of Part 1 then it wouldn't suffer from any decline, you aren't proving shit at all.
>>282045420Theyre clearly punishing trannymoto for making such an obvious woman gud men bad manga
>>282045532More like the japanese drop it because denji became an unlikeable braindead gooner
>>282045493>multiple chapters of YoshiAsaCanon Yoshiasa would enrage Denjifags, Yoshidafujos, and some Asafags. Fujimoto doesn't have the balls, Chu
>>282045523>Will let CSM: Reze movie flopI really appreciate that you committed suicide by adding that point to your argument, it saves me a lot of time.
>>282045578the lowest scum in the series are always women though. and they always suffer horrible ends.
>>282045523NTA>Votes for every other main cast member over Denji in popularity pollThat is literally common thing, like there are side characters with higher ranking than MC in other series.>Lets CSM Anime flopBecause they fucking hated season 1 of CSM, it had nothing to do with Denji. Denji is used as example on how MAPPA fucked up the anime.>Drops part 2 when Denji returnsDenji returned in the 5th chapter and next volume is the best selling volume of the entire manga.>Will let CSM: Reze movie flopThey literally liked the new direction.
>>282045603You mean fanfic, Yoshida.
>>282045569>Only the prequels had OT "goodwill" yet were butt of joke for years.People still enjoyed Star Wars enough to want to see the sequels until Disney killed the series>Are you the same person or what? If Part 2 had the so called "goodwill" of Part 1 then it wouldn't suffer from any decline, you aren't proving shit at all.I'm the anon that you were talking to before star wars was brought up.Part 2 HAD good will because it was a direct sequel to Part 1. People initially looked forward to it until Part 2 kept getting worse over time. Part 2 lost that good will. I don't see how you can't comprehend this. It's simple to understand
>>282045667>That is literally common thing,it is only a common thing among mangas with a weak main character
You faggots act like little kids throwing a tantrum that their favorite show isn't popular.
>>282045700That is incredibly retarded argument, because there been other manga have their MC never touching 1st place nor entering the top 5, hell a good exampe is the last poll of KnY.
I accept your concession
>>282045603more like Fuji just never really gave a fuck about Yoshida.Fujimoto: If I accomplished that, then good. I thought that depicting each one's emotions would cause more emotion when they died, I did that consciously. So I'm not actually that attached to the characters, myself. Drawing Power was fun, but the other characters... I was aware they all exist to serve the story, so I didn't especially like them.
>>282045697>People still enjoyed Star Wars enough to want to see the sequels until Disney killed the seriesBecause people were tired of Lucas after the prequels burned out everyone, it had nothing to do with goodwill.>Part 2 HAD good will because it was a direct sequel to Part 1. People initially looked forward to it until Part 2 kept getting worse over time. Part 2 lost that good will. I don't see how you can't comprehend this. It's simple to understandAgain, it had nothing to do with goodwill otherwise Part 2 wouldn't suffer from the decline in sales when Falling Devil arc started especially when Sequel Trilogy made shit ton of money at the box office due fanboys alone. You shouldn't die in this hill.
>>282045744Everyone knows Tanjiro is a pretty dull and boring MC so idk why you brought him up
The schizos and shitposters are now back with the salesfagging due the movie coming out, how boring.
>>282044621this is my first post barely readable in this thread>>282045862we could have been discussing the kino omake animation and making fun webms but no, gotta have a schizo babble rerun
>>282041535IS THIS REAL?!!?!?!!YET WE GET ANOTHER >>282041535BREAK WEEK!!!!!!!!!!
>>282045862Reze always causes seethe, that's understood.
>>282045807Why did Part 2 sell 507K copies with vol 13 and then lose 80% of its sales?
>>282045017>>282045197I did not see a single argument in your post. I however presented multiple arguments. Would Death and Fame react to Yoshida? No faggot. They only react to War, and Miri said War would be there any minute. You're just seething because you have no actual intelligent argument to disprove what I said.
>>282045862I only started salesfagging because a faggot started arguing about the handjob chapter being a turn-off for readers
>>282045842And even then he still got 1st on the first popularity poll, which Denji has never done. That guy is a massive retard.
My dick gets hard thinking in Asas inevitable mindbreak.
>>282045889Due the anime boost, duh.
>>282045893I started arguing about the HJ chap because someone said it was the most read chapter in Jump+ for 2024 because he was wrong. Then he clarified his mistake
My pussy gets wet thinking of Yoshida's inevitable lack of clothes.
I wonder what the cope will be when the Reze movie doesn't magically save the franchise...
>>282045926Are you saying the anime boost ending is the only reason why Part 2 sales have dropped?
>>282045958Movies don't really do that, animated series do. I don't think the movie will boost it.
>>282045885It's only going to get worse as the movie approaches.
Asa doesn't find Yoshida attractive
>>282045968Don't forget the incoming nuBabs
Everyone finds Yoshida attractive, even other dudes and Denji.
>>282045893The argument was about how your so-called "goonslop" and "fanservice" gets framed in CSM compared to the dime-a-dozen shonenslop where it's just tits and ass shots with no further meaning or consequence.Denji's sex addiction and its spiraling effect on his life, are an integral part of the story, particularly in p2, which is not necessarily the type of story that the masses are looking to read.It's not a "feel-good moment" when the MC is distracted from his search for a daughter figure by going to a brothel and then sloppily making out with a Devil.
>incoming movie>new csm animation just released>instead of getting happy schizos get angryLmao why are they like this
It's unfortune that Part 2 lost the goodwill that Part 1 built up, even with an anime boost.
>>282045995You can tell by these panels that Asa was already pondering how his dick tastes.
>>282046056that's why they're called schizos. they thrive in misery, and misery loves company.
>>282046056Yoshida mindbreaks
>>282045975We can be friendly with them, right?
>>282044793Why is his head shaped like balls?
>>282046054>It's not a "feel-good moment" when the MC is distracted from his search for a daughter figureNo one cared ot was turned off by that scene. Not Japan. Not reddit. Not twitter. Not mangaplus. Not Fujimoto. Only schizos on /csm/.>sloppily making out with a DevilEvery single straight chainsaw man reader loved that scene.
>>282046054>which is not necessarily the type of story that the masses are looking to read.Yes it is, you're a retard stop being such a pseud.
>>282046099Shoot on sight.
>>282046056Some anons don't like other anons talking about how the Reze movie won't save the series and how Part 2 being bad is the main reason for this
Part 2 waifushitters are afraid of a Part 1 stacy eclipsing them in a single panel
>>282044379Many are saying this
>>282046056>don't care for Reze>just an omake>break week
>>282045206What do you mean? Cake already has frosting, what kind of frosting is Power putting on it?
>>282046119The price of Bab-dom is steep
Do the other primal devils understand his speech? Do they find him scary or think he's autistic?
>>282044379I agreeStill the most fun ongoing shonen to follow
>>282044379I kinda agree but I'm gonna be honest that compared to todays manga this is easily a seven. A five is never worth reading.
>>282046205Blood devil understands him. It was instant attraction.
>>282046212What's your opinion on one piece and SxF?
>>282046109>No one cared ot was turned off by that scene.Nta but you are clearly missing his point here lowiq bro.
>>282046230>warm pissshit>SxFFun, comfy, cute
Is Drawbab going to do a commemorative drawing for the movie?
You guys saw those mini animation shorts released today?
>>282045419>oh my fauciDr, Fauci?
A girl who's just perfect
>>282046235the point here is that "readers were not looking to read that scene" when in reality no one gave a shit, everyone just brushed it off.
>>282046223Part2 is hardly worth reading. We are here for the sunken cost, without the part1, part2 would have been axed long ago.
>>282046109Yet the next volume absolutely cratered in sales because the casuals didn't get their happy reunion with Nayuta, and instead Denji was left a depressed mess struggling to find a reason to keep going.You have to be completely out for lunch if you still can't understand that the vibe of P2 just isn't appealing to a "casual audience".>>282046116Literally everything points away from that.
>>282046258No. No one cares about that shit in here except power-troon. They should have released that shit back when s1 aired. Now it's too late to care about crappy animated omakes.
>>282046252Id bet on it >>282046258Yes, pure kino
>>282046269Shes too humanized here, the DRAGON captured her better
>>282046269Darkness agrees. Denji doesn't.
>>282046278>Yet the next volume absolutely cratered in salesEvery single volume craters in sales, this isn't exactly an exclusive thing that happened after nayuta died.
>>282046272You completely missed his point.
>>282046269>>282046291Der cutest
>>282046269That entire scene was pure sex and she's isn't even my top 5.>>282046279Lol, that mini series had more soul than anything in Season 1s animation. Actually gives me hope for the movie and second season.
>>282046258Yeah they were pretty funI was happy to see Himeno againThe first 2 were nice to reinforce how much of a hobo Denji isPower one was funny
>>282046252It's been so long but I would appreciate his return even if only temporarily
>>282046311>Actually gives me hope for the movie and second season.Which was the point of them really, get back the disappointed fans
>>282046307He tries to paint that scene as some mega dark moment in denji's sexuality that everyone despised when 99.999% of people did not gave a shit
>>282046278Why don't you think it appeals to a casual audience despite it being popular on reddit?
>>282046322Nice Himeno ass tooDenji and Pochita cake is making the rounds, he's our poor hero
>>282046328In fact one chapter after that happened yoru jerked him off and everyone was cheering and clapping for them and begging fujimoto to let them fuck.
CSM part 2 feels way too silly these days. Very little stakes left.Not sure what Fuji can do at this point other than quickly end up. The romance is not very good, there are no stakes, and there's 0 character development for the MC. Nothing is happening.
>>282046326>get back the disappointed fansThat's the problem. People don't re-watch shit they already watched just because you released it with extra omake shorts. They fucked up by not releasing that shit when the iron was hot. It's like crushing an ecstasy tablet and spreading it through the chicken feeder - it's wasted material.
I enjoyed these shorts more the the entire 12 episode season 1
>>282046378Denji's dead and weaponized next chapter. There's your stakes.
>>282046379>rewatch>new animationDont reply to me retard
>>282046275Even if one doesn't like how the story's panned out, some of the chapters are still completely fucking insane. At least Part 2 isn't boring, which is the worst sin for any manga or book.
>>282046325You're in for something a lot worse... ;)
>>282046235No he didn't.>>282046278The sexy girls constantly throwing themselves at the MC but hes just a damaged boy that deep down just wants love, is not "deep" filter for the "masses" you pretend it is. The sales falling are result of bad art, pacing and writing.
>>282046378Fuji really should kill Denji already.
>>282046378>Not sure what Fuji can do at this pointI'm sure he can fit in a few more Yoshida last page fakeout deaths.
>>282046393No one cares except you, Pee.
>>282046379It's trending on twitter right now. The entire mini scenes are freely available to watch.
>>282046420How does this affect sales?
The Reze movie will BOMB
>>282046355>In fact one chapter after that happened yoru jerked him off and everyone was cheering and clappingOne chapter after nobody had the context of what was really happening.
>>282046403He will. First thing next chapter. Bet.
>>282046438Were they not paying attention? That part of the story was pretty simple.
>>282046437...because it is about BOMB-BOMB-kun, who goes BOOM!
>>282046391>>282046403>>282046439This kills part 2 immediately and not in a good way. Your shitposting is so stale.
>>282046435>salesfaggotry
>>282046438>One chapter after nobody had the context of what was really happening.Áre you implying everyone recontextualized the handjob chapter because nayuta died? NO ONE OUTSIDE OF THIS SHITHOLE CARED. NO ONE.
>>282046395>At least Part 2 isn't boring50-50. Most of the time nothing happens. Denji always bores me to death but there are some interesting things happening with other characters.
>>282046454But twitterfaggotry is good?
>>282046396Draw bab?
>>282046395>Part 2 isn't boringpart 2 is very boring, that's what negative stakes do to a manga
>>282046453shart 2 is literally ending soon. less than 10 chappies are left
>>282046466Yes.
Part 3 will be about aliens
>>282046492Aliens are demons after all
>>282046492Part 3 will be post nuclear Armageddon.
>>282046488I guess I would cope with engagement on twitter too if I was butthurt about Part 2's low sales
>>282046459>Áre you implying everyone recontextualized the handjob chapter because nayuta died?Yes that is what Fujimoto did, and even back then most of you didn't understand what was happening long after the Aging arc ended. You guys really though Denji was going to get better and this was going to turn into an AsaDen Shojo.
>>282046501Part 3 is Fire Punch
>>282046306Percentage-wise, it was more massive than any other drop in the series history.>>282046329Reddit isn't a measurement of anything. Especially when it comes to the Japanese audience that actually buys the volumes.>>282046400>The sexy girls constantly throwing themselves at the MCThat's not really what's happening. He's just getting screwed over and over by his sex addiction. He never has a genuine moment of receiving affection from someone without them immediately looking to take advantage.The masses want moments of triumph, P2 very, very rarely offers any of them. Which is the opposite of fanservice.
Non-shitwertard thread is up.
>>282046453Its not shitposting, this story became stale and offers nothing of value anymore. Realistically, the only way to deliver a climax as good as the deaths of Aki and Power is to kill Denji.
Who do you think is Chainsaw Man's audience?
>>282046544So, it appeals to a casual Western audience but not a Japanese one will actually buy things?
>>282046565Agreed.
>>282046516>Yes that is what Fujimoto did,But no one gave a shit, which is the whole point of this conversation. you said and quote>It's not a "feel-good moment" when the MC is distracted from his search for a daughter figure by going to a brothel and then sloppily making out with a Devil.But no one gave a shit denji got distracted, no one cared, no one even bothered to reanalyze those chapters, the only people who did are the schizos here who want to present denji as the villain>>282046544>Percentage-wise, it was more massive than any other drop in the series history.Prove it then. Before i pull out excel and i do it myself>He's just getting screwed over and over by his sex addictionNigger he is an immortal demigod "screwed over" my ass, he got free nudes and a whore grinding her ass on his cock.
>>282046496Says who?
>>282046589>But no one gave a shit,>But no one gave a shit denji got distracted, no one cared, no one even bothered to reanalyze those chaptersYes my point is that most of the people reading this are pretty much braindead/super casual, at least the ones that are vocal in social media.
>>282046644lurk moar
>>282046647And why are you even arguing? The whole point of this conversation is that csm's goonslop has mass appeal
2sissies are scared of babs
>>282046589>Prove it then. Before i pull out excel and i do it myselfDon't need an excel to do such easy math. Sales dropped from 200k to 153k.
>>282046724>Don't need an excel to do such easy mathApparently you do. Because you are wrong.
>>282046760Yeah? The post-Nayuta death volume sales dropped by 21.1%. What do you think I was referring to?
>>282046724>>282046760I'm not either of you guys but I wanted to provide week 4 numbers up to vol 21 >Chainsaw Man #12 (426,671)>Chainsaw Man #13 (507,532)>Chainsaw Man #14 (425,019)>Chainsaw Man #15 (345,220)>Chainsaw Man #16 (293,957)>Chainsaw Man #17 (243,658)>Chainsaw Man #18 (207,669)>Chainsaw Man #19 (187,295)>Chainsaw Man #20 (143,811)Chainsaw Man #21 (133,165)
>>282046831And here are the full sales. Vol 20 cratered, that's well known. The depressing turns of events obviously played a part.
>>282046815That was the post Fumiko one actually. It was the one that featured the aging devil arc, one of the worst arcs in Part 2
>>282046815post nayuta is 17-18 and 18-19, 19-20 are a year after nayuta's death got confirmed
>>282040962Yoshida is death, Denji is alive.
>>282046879Aging devil was kino as fuck, wtf anon
>>282046938redditor begone
>>282046879>>282046889Nayuta's head is displayed on a platter at the end of vol 19.The retards on /csm/ somehow believe that the sales aren't affected by the events of the previous volume. That's what the readers are going to buy the next volume for, based on whether the events of the previous volume were satisfying or not.They clearly weren't too happy with the depressing direction of vol 19 and the sales of vol 20 show that.
>>282046815>japanese people were reading CSM because of a loliLol, lmao. Not surprising the manga is much more popular internationally.
>>282046963>this manga done by an author who loves killing characters is too depressingWhy are these people reading a Fujimoto manga in first place?
>>282047018because they saw their boy Denji get some triumphs throughout P1 despite all the suffering.In P2 he doesn't get jackshit.P2 is more of a pure Fujimoto work, where he obviously stopped giving much of a fuck whether people like it or not.
>>282046963You have completely derailed the debate faggot, this wasnt about if nayuta's death was relevant at the sales declines or not, it was about goonslop being appealing to normal readers
>>282046963>Nayuta's head is displayed on a platter at the end of vol 19.Ugh..... can someone refute this for me? I tried but it seems like this is true...
>>282046963Nice job scholar. You won.
>>282047064yeah, and i called you a fool for thinking that this is the type of "goonslop" that appeals to mass audience.they want some tits and ass.they don't want some guy crying over his dick, being manipulated over and over, turning away from his loved ones to chase for girls, admitting he's only a hero because of sex addiction, etc.that's not "fanservice" for the average reader. that's more like torture, especially when it keeps happening without seemingly any end in sight.
>>282046963Chapter 171 (Nayuta's head) is in the middle of vol 19 and released on 17 July 24. Vol 18 released on 2 Aug 2024. Vol 19 itself released on 4 December 24. Vol 20 released on 4 April 25 with the dogshit aging devil arc. The shitty arc ended on 15 Jan 25. The aging devil arc had the biggest effect on sales
>>282047101stop samefagging makimakek
>>282047101>>282047091See >>282047136
>>282046760>Asa's volume is the biggest decline >Famine's is the smallest Japan has spoken.
>>282047054>P2 is more of a pure Fujimoto workAnd that's a good thing.
>>282047125> turning away from his loved ones to chase for girls, admitting he's only a hero because of sex addiction, etc.But literally no one gives a fuck about any of this, i browse every single plataform you could ever think of and only /csm/ complains because you are a butthurt nayuden/yoshiasa shipfaggot who wants to make denji look bad.
>>282047136again, only on /csm/ people are stupid enough to believe that the content of the previous volume has no impact on the readers' decision to buy the next volume.obviously it does.the content in volume 19 had an impact on volume 20 sales. the buyers of the volume aren't all going to know in advance what the events of that volume were going to be like.they just saw that the story was getting too bleak/unappealing for them and dipped out.
>>282047167That's a brutal refutation, thanks boss.
>>282047184i agree btw, i'm simply pointing out that P2 is pretty far from fanservice apart from a handful of moments at best.>>282047197i couldn't give a fuck about any of that, i just look at the facts. people are obviously not overly enthralled that "their boy" from p1 is getting dragged through the mud, and that their hopes of him becoming some type of family man were brutally crushed.yoshida i barely even know who the fuck that is, the guy who blew himself up last chappy? total nobody, has no relevance to anything.
>>282047220>the buyers of the volume aren't all going to know in advance what the events of that volume were going to be like90% of csm's readers read it online
>>282047220People had 3 months to digest how bad the aging arc was. You had comments being removed on Jump+ complaining about it. You really think Nayuta's death around 9 months before the vol had more of an effect on vol 20 than how bad the aging arc that's featured in it did?
>>282047267>that P2 is pretty far from fanservicedude it's pure goonslop, read the manga>that their hopes of him becoming some type of family man were brutally crushed.Nayuckta is very irrelevant, 3 chapters after and everyone moved on, 1 year later and no one remembers her.
>>282047293Nayuta's death was unpopular and Aging was unpopular. That is why every volume sells less than the last. Only BABS will cause a sales increase next volume.
>>282047354to expand on this idea nayuta has the same tier of relevance as himeno or yuko, readers only care about asaden or yoruden shenanigans, just like how readers in part1 cared about the hayakawa family's fate. Nayuta is just a plot device that served it's purpose long time ago
>>282047276the only thing that matters is a stat showing how many volume buyers have read the content of the volume in advance online. i doubt such a stat is available.>>282047293you have had comments removed from every arc, doesn't mean anything.>>282047354if you think that's an example of goonslop you've barely read any other manga.>Nayuckta is very irrelevant, 3 chapters after and everyone moved on, 1 year later and no one remembers her.yes a lot of people "moved on" by stopping to read the manga indeed
>>282047442>you have had comments removed from every arc, doesn't mean anything.You only addressed one point. Address the rest of it, if you're making an argument. I'm saying the aging devil arc had the most drastic drop in sales, not gooning, the dark tone after Nayuta's death or whatever you two are arguing about, because the Aging Devil arc is the one of the worst arcs in CSM
>>282047442>if you think that's an example of goonslop you've barely read any other manga.i can post tons of examples, don't worry>yes a lot of people "moved on" by stopping to read the manga indeedThis is literally just your made up cope, people didn't drop the manga when himeno or yuko died and they were more relevant than nayuta panel-wise
>>282047492i think you have to be nuts if you can't see how badly the whole nayuta situation reflected on denji's character and how it definitely encouraged a bunch of readers to drop the series.again, it's not so much about the importance of nayuta or how her great her character was, but the fact that we see denji stumbling around in brothels, crying about his dick, making out with a devil, and then having nayuta's head presented to him as he's contemplating how good it felt that he got jerked off.it was a gut punch to the type of readers who expect a bit more of an optimistic direction for denji after all the suffering he's been through.personally i found it fucking hilarious but i'm definitely not the type of person that would be regarded as part of a mass audience.
>>282047576>but the fact that we see denji stumbling around in brothels, crying about his dick, making out with a devil, and then having nayuta's head presented to him as he's contemplating how good it felt that he got jerked off.literally no one saw it like that, no one cares about nayuta, she was a side character, denji's suffering was explored for 3 panels, fujimoto didn't want the reader to give a fuck
>>282047506that's more like it but it's still a kick in the nuts for the readers who were made to buy into Asa and Denji being an item after Asa gave her somewhat of a heart-felt confession just a few chapters prior.denji is then seen losing his mind over some bitch who has been fucking up their lives over and over.
>>282047576The Aging arc was worse than what happened with Nayuta from a quality perspective. Did you like it or something? Can you not see why the Aging devil arc is the arc that most people would say is the worst?
>>282047637>it's still a kick in the nuts for the readers who were made to buy into Asa and Denji being an item after Asa gave her somewhat of a heart-felt confession just a few chapters priorOnly the most obese HRT-filled asawhales from reddit care about it. For most readers it was just "death is so hot" and that's it.
>>282047636you're just projecting your own ideas right now. fujimoto absolutely meant it to be a "dark arc" in denji's hero journey, which is something he loves to write.he likes heroes that are complete, utter fuck-ups in their personal lives, yet still manage to save a bunch of people regardless.
>>282047676the point is it's never something you can safely feel good about. it's always some mass murderer bitch who ends up fucking denji over, that he lusts for.this is not something that the "normies" look for in their goonslop.they want vanilla romances, vanilla girls, vanilla fanservice, MCs who get triumphs instead of constant defeats and suffering.fujimoto's works are intended for a more niche audience of people who enjoy suffering kino.
>>282047679>you're just projecting your own ideas right now.No, nayuta has the same relevance that himeno had in part1, make the reader sad for 3 minutes and then move on to the next thing>>282047729>the point is it's never something you can safely feel good about. it's always some mass murderer bitch who ends up fucking denji over, that he lusts for.It literally does not matter, denji is immortal.>they want vanilla romances, vanilla girls, vanilla fanservice, MCs who get triumphs instead of constant defeats and suffering.Nigger chainsaw man was a massive success and it had none of that>fujimoto's works are intended for a more niche audience of people who enjoy suffering kinoI enjoy suffering kino, the suffering fujimoto makes is dogshit because there are no stakes, no good torture, no soul crushing moments.
