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Why was this show so... perfect?
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>>282045610
Boys love giant robots and medieval fantasy, so combining them should be beloved by... girls?
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ESCA.....
FLOWNE
ESCA.....
FLOWNE
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>>282045741
We thoguht that, but it was Girls that loved Giant Robots and Medieval Fantasy.
>Gundam
>Rayearth
>Escaflowne
>Macross
ALL SHOUJO
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>>282045610

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXZg3aexGLs
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>>282045896
>Macross
>Shoujo
erm...
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a cat is fine, too.
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it wasn't
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Because Kazuki Akane an extremely intelligent person and genius director. He writes smart characters that actually have the spark of life in them, who behave like there is a person inside them figuring out the best thing to do, like you or I would in their shoes, rather than just being shitty tropes or doing retarded things just to serve the plot.
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>>282046176
A dog too as proved by Jajuka
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>>282045610
It was absoulte shit with what some people might consider to be good visuals.
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>>282045610
It wasn't perfect, it was missing like a third of its episodes.
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>>282047128
And an ending, and good characters.
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>>282045610
>Why was this show so... perfect?
It has a very strong old-school JRPG vibes.
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>>282045947
God, what an amazing soundtrack this show had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTs9AngpRc
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>>282046176
Stupid cat
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>>282046059
>random love triangle
>two of the bad boys
>plain jane girl that only said two bad boys have eyes for
It's shoujo bro
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>>282049304
bro hasnt seen frontier or delta
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>>282049329
Macross always had a majority of male viewers but the audience became mostly female with Frontier and Delta. Sheryl Nome got her own shoujo spin-off
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>>282049345
What changed that attracted more women?
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>/a/ has finally accepted escaflowne is a shoujo
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>>282045610
You have to be a woman or mental ill, animation was great, story wasn't so bad but reeked to shoujo manga so nope.
Also a week after this released we got gundam wing and the classic line "i'm going to kill you".
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>>282045896
Macross and gundam aren't shoujo, we got several stuff from there and the girls were quite hot.
Idol main girl won't equal to shoujo was something classic from 80s ota culture but you won't know.
>sexy or cute girls.
>pantyshots
>giant robots
That's a man romance specially robots, if you didn't make blueprints of robots as child then you aren't even human.
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>>282049485
Most didn't want to admit it just that, is kinda those trying to claim macross is shoujo when was the most fanservice of robot anime which women don't like.
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>>282051037
>we got gundam wing
Not sitting through hours upon hours of dated mediocrity just to watch that
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>>282046176
Stupid no-pan cat
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>>282049203

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_-J446MBKk
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>>282049262
>>282051159

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_hhF1-c7os
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>>282046176
>ONE cat
Van should learn from his big brother.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsfytbBuZqA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMx2Qk0nk-o
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>>282045610
Great pacing. It never dragged.
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The show was fun, i dunno what the fuck were they thinking with the movie tho.
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>>282051072
>if you didn't make blueprints of robots as a child then you aren't even human
I am scared to ask what modern children are doing/into right now. Probably some gay shit.
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>>282055862
Mindlessly consuming youtube shorts and getting their brains fried by flashing lights and the instant gratification that the internet makes easy and doesn't fucking exist in real life.
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>>282052442
Lmao 2 cat
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>>282045610
It had a solid beginning, middle and end and did it in only one season. This is like a lost art or something.
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>>282049953
eww, todays fluid 5 fps CG fights are much better.
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>>282057005
I don't entirely disagree, but hold on. Calling Escaflowne's runtime "one season" and then comparing it to modern anime is kind of a bullshit double standard. It had 26 episodes, thats 2 seasons by today's metrics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYcPrsoNd28
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>>282045610
Rayearth was better.
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>>282058260
elaborate
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>>282057242
NTA but fair enough. It was a great run within the 2 cour format though.
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>>282060130
You know, now I'm curious... what was the last anime original that got 26 or more episodes from the get go? Most anime originals are only given 1 cour to work with, and they MIGHT get a second season later but thats not the same thing as knowing you have those episodes to work with from the start. You don't write or pace things at all the same way between knowing you have 26 episodes and HOPING you have 26 episodes.

The last 2-cour anime original I can remember was Franxx. There must have been one since then, but nothing comes to mind for me.
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>>282061548
Yashahime, Aquatope, Back Arrow, Kabukichou Sherlock, Carole & Tuesday
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>>282061548
Dark Gathering was given 2 cours but I'm not sure it was 26 episodes.
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>>282064146
Congratulations on the worst necrobump of the year.
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>>282045610
It wasnt you massive faggot.
It was garbage run of the mill shoujo with NTR b8 and romance triangle slop.
It had good animation and asthetics plus a banger ost.
Besides that nothing, shit story and characters by your standard Frieren is a masterpiece.
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>>282052442
It's been like thirty goddamn years, but I still can't get past those fucking Pinocchio noses.
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>>282049485
You mean the very first episode if Hitomi working up a confession for her senpai. getting waviered by a random boy shows up to fight a dragon and save, only to then later on in the show start crushing mad hard one the do who looks like quite literally her senpai, all that wasnt enough to clue them in that this some shoujo as shit?
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>>282045610
It was an inspired work by people who understood the craft and followed a strong creative vision
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Watched this recently and while I did enjoy it, I thought the love triangle fell kind of flat which led to my disappointment with the ending. Allen got way too much focus and had too many plot threads tied to him so when Hitomi realized her feelings for Van by the end it felt shoehorned in. Her and Van had fewer sincere moments together so their romance wasn't satisfying.
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>>282058406
NTA, but the first 25 eps of rayearth was explicitly about the girls character growth and you basically did nothing but watch them endure and overcome trials to strengthen there resolve, with Escaflowne Hitomi is just constantly pulled along for the ride, and barely has any reason to be there except be a future telling damsel for the most part.
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>>282047128
In a thread a few months ago an other anon pointed that out as a urban legend. Only very early drafts had over 30 episodes planned. Yet after rewatching it recently I got the same feeling too. The individual episodes are wonderful, but it somewhat feels a bit too jumpy overall. So often there's just like a 'conflict' of the week, that gets resolved until the next 'conflict' emerges the next episode. This is all saved by the overarching narrative and the good character writing (Hitomi being the best even. 10/10 likeable), but it's uncanny how close the surface formula is to something like Sailor Moon.

Also I felt like this 20 years ago, but rekindled with the thought, that I actually like the movie more than the series. Depressed Hitomi is 11/10 waifu material. The ending also felt more satisfying there. In the series it was a real downer for her to leave Gaia.
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>>282065864
I felt the same way, anon.
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>>282065809
Can we get another one?
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I read a long time ago Escaflowne's director liked to scream and berate people.
Clearly that's why it turned out the way it did.
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>>282045610
I bought all the VHS clamshells for this back in the day and I don't think I ever watched the second half of the series more than once. It really becomes a slog later on.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vigQf_7oZ4U
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>>282049485
nigga you were being trolled or something if retards were claiming it wasnt
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"I'd love to work on a game that evokes the same themes as anime series like Aura Battler Dunbine and The Vision of Escaflowne" - Hidetaka Miyazaki
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>>282045610
many shoujo are
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>>282065809
Even the behind-the-scenes was full of soul
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>>282071236
you did get one, kemono friends
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These scenery shots are God-tier.
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Something I love from Escaflowne is we see different cultures. The world feels alive and vast. Meanwhile in modern fantasy, it's all pseudo-European JRPG
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>>282073389
There's a group of anons that are dead set saying this isn't a shoujo because of marketing reasons and they can't fathom girls liking giant robots
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>>282055747
It still looks good and Dilandau is actually male in it.
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>>282075774
Older fantasy series feel more authentic because people put effort in the direction, music and setting.
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>>282077468
Old isekai is better because it's actually about the other world, rather than just a vehicle to give the mc OP powers and girls.
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>>282076135
It was clearly designed to appeal to both men and women, and definitely succeeded at that, given that I've seen a lot of both men and women liking it. There were even 2 different manga, one shonen one shoujo.
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>>282045896
shoujo for males is being an edgelord driving giant robots but also having sex with hot fertile female teen schoolgirls.
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>>282077710
>edgelord MC
>hot fertile female teens
>mechas
yep is shoujo for males time
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>>282078085
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>>282076135
Semi-unrelated, but what kind of giant robots are girls into? Are there certain mecha designs that naturally draw women in?
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>>282045610
Still gotta watch this.



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