>>282048120
>exist and be ugly
yes
all women are genetically programmed to hate ugly men so they can't reproduce and transfer their bad genes to the next generation. this is a common knowledge.

>>282048241
if that were true you never would have been born

>>282048120
He hung thousands of photos of a stranger woman and became obsessed with a girl he doesn’t even know, he just saw her on tv.
He’s a very shallow person that doesn’t reflect much. All his friends and loved ones probably warned him about this all throughout childhood and adolescence but he didn’t listen.
Has has no dignity and it doesn’t bother him. Failure of a human.

>>282049186
>Failure of a human
>a very shallow person that doesn’t reflect much
That's 90% of the relevant characters in the movie. Why, between them, he was the villain?

>>282048120
stalking is bad anon

>>282049299
The rest off the characters were not engaging in undignified behaviour. I mean the main actress took an erotic scene and that really upset her because she’s a human with dignity, she cares about her own dignity.
The manager girl is just psychotic. The rest of the people in the movie are normal. The ugly dude is not just ugly he is actively engaging in creepy undignified behaviour, he deserves all that’s coming to him.

>>282049360
He has done nothing as undignified as acting on an erotic scene. Why would her regret excuse her actions being more disgusting than his?

>>282049392
Because our girl is not shameless about it, she reflected, it upset her. She knows its wrong.
The other guy shows no ability for reflection, he is just constantly engaging in creepy humiliating behaviour, he doesn’t respect himself and so other people should not respect him either.

>>282049426
She didn't respect herself either. He has nothing anywhere near as humiliating as acting on an erotic scene. She knew it was wrong beforehand, regret doesn't erase the past, and certainly doesn't raise your moral standing above someone that never acted as low as you.

>>282048120
>So literally all he did to be the "villain" was exist and be ugly?
yes

>>282049516
Ok if you are so much better than her why are you obsessed with her? Why do you stalk her and keep photos of her on your wall?
Why are you bothering this woman, whom you don’t even know?

Your entire existence is one of shamelessness, creepiness behaviour and undignified behaviour and you refuse to do anything about it.
Either you are incapable of a self reflection, meaning you are an animal in human form, very repulsive!
Or you know what you are doing is creepy, shameful. And you do it anyway, als of very repulsive!

Our girl made one mistake and it upset her so much, she lost sleep over it for days and almost had a breakdown. She’s a saint actually. You’re nothing but a beast.

>>282048751
Incels are made by the mothers genetics. My dad is over 6ft tall, mother is a womanlet with no chin

>>282049606
If you're so disgusted by these kinds why sell your image to them? Why let them fill their walls and even watch you in your most shameful moment?
Your entire being is one without accountability, a distorted mess of self-pity and hypocrisy.
Either you are incapable of having the humility to look at yourself as the lowest pornographic scum you are!
Or you know how depravedly you conduct yourself, never truly regretting your actions, meaning you are the true form of an actress, a liar!
The guy only kept to himself harmlessly, being seen by her as culprit for something he never even thought of doing. If your harlot is a saint he is the falsely accused Jesus Christ.

>>282049710
I would have you know, most of my audience are quite normal people who are capable of conducting themselves with dignity.
We share together in the levity of music, and dance to forget the woes of lives and I am more than happy to be there for them.

It’s just your kind that ruined it for everybody. Why can everyone live fulfilling lives while enjoying music shows and you are the only one that have to be creepy about it and ruin it for everyone else?

>>282049818
Don't make me laugh, to talk about the levity of music after singing on a meat microphone. Your kind is the one who ruined it for everybody, greedily reaching for cheap sensationalism, selling your self-respect and morals and then accusing people with some actual dignity of being creepy because they find harmless ways to forget the woes of their lives in private. "Everyone" doesn't seem to include you, as you left your fullfilling and enjoyable musical life to chase after your lowest moment, with a dismissive holier-than-thou attitude to shield you from your own failings.

>>282049923
Me-mania
-san, as always you speak about the life of someone you don’t know with such confidence.
You don’t know my circumstances, and if you don’t like me that’s fine, I ask that you never visit my shows again and stay away from me.

Yes, we all are trying to forget the woes of life. But your obsession even if mostly conducted in private is quite unhealthy, and it’s easy for anyone to see.
I hope that soon you’d start living your own life, and become a proper person.

I’ve been hurt by your words, I’ve been hurt by the way you conduct yourself, you’re very unsightly to look at!

>>282050033
>I’ve been hurt
Dear Mima, I'm dead. I'm literally dead. I'm dead without blood on my hands. I was happy being your fan, happier than you were filming an erotic scene, happier than you ever will be from now on. You talk about me not knowing your circumstances but I've made nothing but an effort to do so, while you dismissed me as a would-be murderer for my appearance, without ever caring about who I was.
You didn't owe me this, mind you, but I saw the best in you, and you saw the worst in me, except that "worst" wasn't actually in me, it was inside people you trusted your career and livelyhood to.
Stop trying to diagnose people, you're clearly not apt to, you surround yourself with people who would carnally humiliate you and try to kill you, and succeed at killing people like me, who did nothing. My only mistake was ever thinking of you as more than a whore, and now I'm dead.
So I ask, again, why am I the villain?

>>282050116
I am sorry Me-mania-san, I’m sorry for all the pain I have unknowingly caused you.

Life is difficult Me-mania-san, it continues to be difficult for me every day, but Me-mania-san, I have to keep moving ahead and make the best of it that I can.

I’m hoping that when we see each other on the other side, we can get to know each other better, that it wouldn’t be so painful.

Kind regards, Mima-chan

>>282050264
Worst part is, I think Me-mania would genuinely be glad Mima survived, even if he died in her place, and even knowing she still found him creepy. Idolfaggotry, not even once.

>>282050295
I mean, Satoshi Kon could have gave him any sort of redemptive quality or scene. Even showing one aspect of his life that wasn’t related to his obsession with Mina-chan to humanise him a bit.
But he didn’t perhaps he didn’t want him redeemed. Satoshi Kon worked in the entertainment industry. Perhaps he saw these creeps as irredeemable.

>>282050330
I think he was human enough. As flawed as he was, he chose to not do wrong, more consistently than others in the same story. He only ever harmed himself, and he bodied it instead of lashing out at unrelated people. Mima seeing him as her would-be killer, due to his appearance, is way more disgusting than him consuming products she willingly sells. Mima's almost like a drug dealer afraid of her clientele, oblivious to the risk of her own people killing her to succeed the business.

>>282048120
Didn't he murder that dude in the elevator

>>282050405
Some of those are just reactionary talking points, it’s not really as deep as that. And it’s quite dramatic and over the top to call her a drug dealer.

>>282048241
I see women having children with ugly men all the time, maybe touch grass

/a/ has too many women and white knights.

>>282050844
>reactionary talking points
Call it whatever you will, Mima is still a shallow hypocrite
>And it’s quite dramatic and over the top to call her a drug dealer.
Not even close to judging someone irredeemable because he is "creepy". Whatever criticism you can throw at him has to first sully Mima, that's the entire point of his character, his flaws flow down from a corrupt media industry model that preys on its fans as much as it preys on the idols. He may have been willing to consume to levels that disgust her, but she was willing to be consumed to levels that disgust him; all the while he wrongly assumed nothing but good of her, and she wrongly assumed of nothing but bad of him.
Goes to show, appearance is everything for society, they turn their minds off when faced with beauty, and turn their empathy off when faced with the lack of it.

>>282051140
Put the creep aside for a moment. Mima did absolutely nothing wrong, from all we’ve seen of her she’s a kind, loving person and a respectable one too.
What does she do wrong? an erotic scene in a movie she got coerced into? Which is not even something I feel people should be judge for, it’s a movie you fucking creeps!

And I don’t think she accused him or anything, she was having a mental breakdown for weeks, and constantly stressing, started hallucinating and if IIRC he just shows up there and it stresses her and she wants to be left alone.

I say this as no joke, she’s a saint. And the complaint come from entitled people who feel like she owes them something.

>>282051239
I hope she sees this bro

>>282048120
He's a weak minded puppet that got easily tricked into taking his stalking and threats to the next level just because his idol made a career move he didn't like.

Though the truth of the matter is that everyone that buys into the idol industry on that level is a bit off in the head.

>>282050330
Kon rejected the western film critics attempts to read 'commentary on entertainment industry' rather vehemently when he was still alive.

Anyhow he doesn't need to be redeemed. He's something to be scared of until he isn't. His character is what the MC perceives him to be and that's all that's important for the story being told.

>>282049671
And my name is Michael Jackson

>>282051870
I mean if it’s not a commentary on the entertainment industry than what is it?

>>282050860
If you think you're surrounded by ugly men you're likely a woman who thinks most men, including perfectly average ones, are ugly. Statistically, that is the case.

>>282053128
It's a lot more believable that someone's mother is short.

>>282054574
Women rated 80% of men on OKCupid as "below average" in physical attractiveness. Even when it's a normal guy they think they're settling for an ugly one.

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>>282048120
>So literally all he did to be the "villain" was exist and be ugly?
Yes

>>282054969
That's really boosting my self esteem because I am getting likes like crazy on Hinge right now.

>>282048241
That’s only true for this era but nowadays women generally don’t reproduce regardless of your looks or bank account.

>>282055923
Doesn't count if you're white and the likes are from ethnic women

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>>282048120
>didn't fix his teeth
>didn't fix his ayy lmao eyes

what else needs expleining why he deserves to be killed?

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