I'll start: this is just shit. Watch it now and you'll see.
still unique
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>>282059258Okay so what do you think is the best anime ever?
>>282060097sexy commando gaiden sugoi yo masaru san
>>282059861Lol. I swear it isn't me
Monster is also pretty bad, just watched all the episodes. The Munich part is the best and even that arc is pretty mediocre. Everyone wanking Johan as the smartest character ever written yet his feats and their planning are always orchestrated off-screen — a notable exception being giving an alcoholic alcohol after driving him to the edge. If the show featured more scenes like that it might actually be good, instead we get random SoL episodes with characters no one gives a fuck about, that go as quickly as they come, interspersed with Nazi remnants gossiping about his off-screen feats and how hes totally the 2nd coming of Adolf.5/10 show, fell asleep 3 times.
>>282061327Agreed. Urasawa was a mistake
>>282059258/a/ has always been wrongIt’s just less wrong than twitter and reddit
>>282061327Yeah, both Welcome to the NHK and Monster have a decent concept that could have made for a good show, but the actual show that was made is just plain boring to watch.
Nhk got famous because it was one of the only anime's talking about the neets, not because of the execution.If it wasn't for that context it would have been a mid anime.
>>282059258I've watched it three times. It's great. Are you a fucking normie?
>>282065173Yes.
>>282063648>middont pretend you know what youre talking about newfag trash.nhk is good as long as you watch it as a hiki/neet and drink lots of alcohol while doing so.
>>282059258zoomoids shouldn't be allowed to watch any anime before 2010
>>282059258it is. even as a neet. thigns just happen. i can relate to his experiences from the game making to failing college to just giving up and finding a job. but really it's not that interesting. the ending blows as well.
>>282059258Retarded zoomer with terminal shit taste
>>282065290>nhk is good as long as you watch it as a hiki/neet and drink lots of alcohol while doing soDo you think that "relatable = good"?
>>282065711Thanks. Name your favorites, boomer-san.
>>282059258I don't really remember how good it was episode to episode but I watched this anime so many years ago and really remember things from it for genuinely insightful and realistic they are. That whole arc where his friend is trying to achieve his dream and get away from running the farm and fails, and thats built up the whole time as this absolute doom and not what he wants. And then by the end of the show its fine and its worked out for him, and he's discovered this happiness as a byproduct of just doing what he has to and and being productive that he never found in being ambitious and having all these expectations and telling himself how bad a normal life would be. Its was such an interesting, real idea for an anime. Its such an adult idea that they don't spell out, they present it as a reality and let you decide how you feel about the fact that it happens sometimes. Similarly the fact that the show basically says changes in attitude don't really make people change or stop them from being a neet. He has to get literally forced by threat of starvation to go to work, and that reintroduces momentum to his life and forces him to build resilience and inner capability and he becomes well adjusted through action and habit, not some epiphany or spontaneous change of personality. Once again strikingly real and unromantic, matureunderstanding of how people work.
>>282065830I can see why it's such an important anime to people
>>282059258A lot of the most iconic old anime movies are in major ways badly written as movies. They adapt so much of a given well liked source material in such a short run-time that they're barely adaptations. More like "we animated a bunch of scenes from x and stitched them together with a great soundtrack so it feels like a movie", without doing enough to explain what's going on to a viewer who isn't already familiar. Even when they do explain things, the general pacing is usually too fastTheyre well animated and have cool moments and directing, but as stand alone movies they rarely work the way the source material was meant to. Its like they still only exist as an elaboration on the source material. People are bowled over by the animation and what's good about them and try to turn the disjointed vagueness and rushed awkward pacing into a virtue, acting like it was totally artistically deliberate to craft a certain effect. Almost invariably they could have had the same vibe and themes if they made the plot and worldbuilding more clearI'm talking about like Ghost in the Shel, Akira, to a lesser extent something like Char's Counterattack. Theres so much good in them that people don't register how much they're missing the first time they watch and before they've looked anything up-not stuff thats meant to be subtext, not extra layers, the basic surface level plot. Char's counterattack is freshest in my mind here. Its an adaptation of 3novels, and I think it starts at like the start of novel 2 so there's just suddenly all these brand new characters out of nowhere that the movie is treating as though you already know and give a shit about them, because again, they're trying to adapt so much so fast, making things disjointed and impossible to ground yourself in. Things just keep happening almost with indifference to the audience and the idea of trying to both keep them in the loop and sell them on why they should care until the movie ends
