Why isn’t yuri more popular? Went to a few book stores in Japan, boylove takes up more than half a floor while yuri only had a tiny shelf to it
I like menhera and I think wholesome fluff is boring
>>282060103Yaoi/BL as a genre is simply more mainstream, but it's a weird kind of mainstream because it's selling a LOT but you don't see those women talking about it in the common social media sites or apps, so it's easy to understimate.In any case, yuri is getting more popular but it's safe to say it'll always be a bit on the niche side, I could see an action fantasy yuri taking off if it was a tight Shounen Jump-esque type of series with a really good anime adaptation, but that hasn't happened yet.
>>282060295I prefer an ebb and flow of wholesome/menhera. Too much wholesome and nothing interesting happens. Too much menhera and it gets tiresome.
>>282060103BL has existed for a long time and has it's root in early japanese fiction which created a culture where it's very easy for women to get into it. The commercial use of yuri only has existed for 2 decades and the previous attempt of portraying just close female bonds was actually banned by the japanese government. Though, only bara is popular with men and bara isn't that popular at all, so it's very likely the aspects that make BL inherently more popular with women just cannot be recreated with yuri to appeal to either men or women as BL tropes are very different from yuri tropes.But this success also comes with the price BL has very little overlap with other audiences, we are seeing yuri being serialized in more popular shonen magazines this year, we will likely never see this happen with BL.
>>282060103You will almost never find BL in places outside of designated BL manga. Meanwhile you will find girls making out or having semi-romantic close relationships fucking everywhere.Thats the reason.
>>28206010390% of japanese girls who are into manga are into Bl, the same cannot be said of all men. Plus, women can afford to pay more for their hobbies because they don't waste their money on prostitutes, etc...
>>282060780>waste their money on prostitutes, etc...Holy delusional cope
>>282060780>because they don't waste their money on prostitutesA lot of them become prostitutes to pay their male prostitutes
>>282060553>only bara is popular with menSpeak for yourself. Hairy musclemen are gross, give me hot BL twinks any day.>But this success also comes with the price BL has very little overlap with other audiences, we are seeing yuri being serialized in more popular shonen magazines this year, we will likely never see this happen with BL.I think the closest we got is Kyou Kara Maou, but the LNs of that just kinda died out like a decade ago last time I checked. Even then I doubt the anime did that well.
>>282060874400k people agree
>>282060874Wrong thread for that, schizofriend.
>>282060911Medication time
>>282060890I just said Bara is popular with gays, not that every faggot like you likes bara. Is it even BL or just BL subtext like all those sports manga?
Yuu lost
>>282060553Back in the days of CLAMP and similar creators, there were shoujo where every character had at least one love interest of each gender. Are there still popular works like that, or has that genre simply been devoured by BL?
>>282060553>But this success also comes with the price BL has very little overlap with other audiences, we are seeing yuri being serialized in more popular shonen magazines this year, we will likely never see this happen with BLThat's where yaoibait comes in.I mean, Blue lock is the current most popular manga in shonen magazine and is constantly one step away from going full homo to appeal to fujos. Something similar happened with his previous manga, where the rival by the end of the series went full gay with the MC and ended up kissing him
>>282060103Yuri will never be mainstream until it stops relying on menhera and shock factor. Only wholesome stuff has the potential to go viral because that's the romance that people themselves want to experience. Yuri has the novelty factor with "haha crazy lesbians" but that's not enough to retain a large audience.
>>282060103Green manga sells more copies than every other strict yaoi manga in Japan. The next best selling one than even beats Dragon Maid is She Likes to Cook, She Likes to Eat. The idea that yuri doesn't sell because people aren't used to seeing it is bogus. It's unironically 2025; people know what yuri is and have a rough idea what the average yuri manga is like and they don't like it .>>282061273Lots of wholesome yuri stuff doesn't sell. Citrus was one of the second top selling yuri manga on par with Yuru Yuri.
>>282061481Wholesomeness isn't a guarantee for success but 99% of successful romance is wholesome. Something like ZenoKawa or AriSaku has very little mainstream appeal.
green is shit btw
>>282061530You can see it in his own post, Green Manga is wildly popular and its wholesome romance.
>>282061481>Green manga sells more copies than every other strict yaoi manga in Japan.To be honest it's a manga that appeals strongly to the female audience. Like,I can see a shojo fan not being interested in Yuri and still buying it and liking it because the love interest is handsome and looks and acts like an idealized guy. Same reason of why Rika from Pokemon is ultra popular with women over there.
>>282061530>>282061583It's more than just wholesomeness. Green Manga sells so well because it looks fresh and different.
>>282058679>the guy i was interested in wasnt a guy at all. i got baited into being a dykeI recently reread green up to the current point and ironically it feels more like the opposite. Once Aya finds out the guys she was interested in wasn't a guy at all™, she's only hurt because she thinks Mitsuki has been deceiving her out of meanness. Once they officially become friends, on the very next arc when Chizuru has a woman moment about Aya being too friendly with someone else, Aya goes to Mitsuki's room to tell her off about giving her concert ticket to Chizuru and she's immediately smitten again. From then on, she never questions still having a crush on Mitsuki regardless of gender. It's Mitsuki who automatically assumes Aya only liked her mistaken gender self and it takes her a while until the events lead her to reconsider all of Aya's behavior and go "oh fuck, she's been in love with me, a female girl, all along". Since it's not entirely clear how long Mitsuki has liked Aya romantically at that point, it could be argued the realization itself spurred Mitsuki on to try out this "being a dyke" thing.
>>282060103Not enough poly series.
>>282061481>green mangaGirl who looks like boy. Of course that's why
>>282061826What do we even have other than Watanare and, arguably, Wagayuri?
>>282060103Women are buying BL in droves but there's relatively little enthusiasm from men about yuri. What explains this phenomenon?We know that guys love pretty anime girls so how come most of them don't care about pretty anime girls kissing other pretty anime girls?
>>282059540Confession at the end of volume 1.
>>282062175>but there's relatively little enthusiasm from men about yuri.Most delusional take.
>>282062175>so how come most of them don't care about pretty anime girls kissing other pretty anime girls?Queens Blade wasn't popular? News to me. In reality men just have other places than specifically yuri works to see girls kissing. Women only have BL.
Why is this the yaoi thread?
>>282062175Most men like the erotic part of it but even that isn’t enough of a kick compared to regular porn. On the other hand dyke romance is cringe that only appeals to a minority of men. That’s why shows like Gushing over magical girls are more popular with men compared to your average yuri slop.
>>282062472MahoAko has lots of romance though
>>282060625>You will almost never find BL in places outside of designated BL mangaThat is also changing too, Hikaru was one of the most boosted manga of the season and it is not listed as Bl. It is published in a shonen magazine and in the stores its volumes are placed next to other shonen manga
>>282062505Don’t give a fuck I just want to see hot cute girls doing dirty things with each other.
>>282062175>but there's relatively little enthusiasm from men about yuri.Because then it would mean interacting with yuri fans, which inevitably means interacting with the alphabet brigade, which is something most men want to avoid.Best to keep it to yourself and enjoy what you like if you're into it while staying the fuck away from any online discussions.
>>282062161Lots of LNs. But mostly are harem and less of true poly.
>>282062379Boys should love boys and girls should love girls. No more brother wars.
>>282062540>That is also changing tooPerhaps so. But it doesn't change what things are right now.Like this anon >>282062360 says. Classic ecchi already commonly features yuri, no need to look for things "called" yuri.
>>282060103why is yuri always so rapey?
>>282061114Those characters still exist but since they are just tropes of designer losers, people got tired of them.>>282061125Sure, there is no doubt fujos are a big part of shonen magazines nowadays, but having explicit yaoi would turn off the male audience.>>282061481Green manga is published with virtually no competition, if there were say other 100 green manga like it exist for yaoi for example, it wouldn't be selling as much as it does, market size is different from potential sales reach
>>282062605>which inevitably means interacting with the alphabet brigadeHave you tried not being a mindbroken twittertard? Not only is that untrue, but you also sound like some faggy pick me yurifag.
>>282062641Women can’t rape each other, silly. The proper way to ask is "Why is it violent?"
>>282062717The law disagrees tranny, so even if you cut your dick you will still get arrested monster
>>282062696>twittertardIts not even a twitter issue. I use twitter for art and my timeline is 90% yuri at all times (10% assorted monster girls and other decent artists) and I never see any of these spooky alphabet people.He's just obsessively looking for it to justify his butthurt.
>>282061481>Kadokawa
We need more Stacies in yuri
>>282062753You only see them if you follow trannymaki or trannori
>>282062696>pick meFurther proof of exactly what I was referring to.
>>282060103Yuri is just gross
>>282062801Sounds like you feel called out for being a spineless bitch
We need more 3P in yuri
>>282062175The big difference is that women have no problem being just a spectatorWhile most men seek to insert themselves into someone of their own gender to represent them, whether it's an effeminate-looking boy in a harem or even a character in a BL. But it has to be a male character, or there's no selling it.
>>282062790NTA but I followed both of them. The trick is to NOT follow any western account.
>>282062801Thats a pretty accurate description for>I-i s-swear I'm not like these other yuri fagsNo one cares. And bending over to justify liking something is pathetic.
>>282062869>While most men seek to insert themselves into someone of their own gender to represent them,Yeah, thats why CGDCT featuring no men at all are famously dying out and unopular with male viewers
>>282061800>green manga>fresh and differentAre you fucking different me? Other than the color, it's as cookie cutter as it gets
>>282062869>While most men seek to insert themselves into someone of their own gender to represent themDo self-insertkeks really?
>>282062801I'm really sick of retards pretending this shit isn't a problem while calling US instead.
>>282062641That's a very good question But I'd dislike Yuri even if it wasn't
>>282061530AriSaku already had extremely little mainstream appeal before the boxcutter, but it's funny how fast speedreaders turned on it for going drama.
>>282063056I saw it getting posted regularly even before that chapter.
>I started reading AriSaku after the box cutterBandwagoner>I started reading AriSaku before the box cutter due to Kasumi spam on /a/Casual>I base my reading choices entirely on what noighd decides to scanlateReal one>I was reading noighd's translations since before he chose that usernameElder god
>>282060874>>282060905>>282060929Mind broken lolcow spastically trying to attack other posters.
>>282063226He did the toji one's right? I assume there was stuff before that?
>>282061565>>282061826>>282062864Spamming on 4chan doesn't mean you can force people to think anything you like is popular.
Con Cafe Jou wa Koi wo Kiru 14https://mangadex.org/chapter/2c2013ca-9d8a-4a4c-97fe-c3fac3868fd7
>>282063298Hello coworker-kun, do you intend to work 8 hours today as well? Maybe go overtime until 2AM? Let's start with a dose of passive-agressive, then in 2 hours you can start posting your classic 4+ posts replies while calling everybody the same person and crying that the world doesn't bend to your will, now that's a knee-slapper funny!
>>282062927Yes, and it's funny because I remember a while ago a discussion on a pirate page of the anime Rifle is beautiful. There were two comments that got the most likes. The first was from a user who said that he was bored being a girl and that he preferred the anime with a male character. The second user said that the anime was good but that he preferred the entire cast to be male, so he better let go of the anime.>>282062965They have to do it or they can't sleep that day.
>>282062869I disagree, most of them want to fuck the shota, there is a misunderstading waifufags ate heterosexual when traps are common in harem stuff, oregairu even had one the MC orgasmed every time he showed up
https://avelilium.com/2025/09/06/part-154-miyagi-called-the-police-on-me-i/
>>282060103We need more poly yuri
>>282063618>weYou are a single person.
>>282062175>What explains this phenomenon?Regarding anime and manga fans, men self-insert way more often than women. If there's no girl eyeing the "camera", or the "camera" itself looks too different from the male audience, (whether due to the "camera" being a different gender or something else) it stops being as engaging. Male anime and manga fans need the romance to include them. Female anime and manga fans can disconnect more easily (acting as a "wall") and thus can easily find both subjects worthy of titillation, hence BL becoming popular.This is not the case for games however, as women are often self-inserting as the player who controls how their love life goes about. Thus, otome and other yume series can only truly thrive in games like LaDS because that's where they're relegated to.
>>282062869>While most men seek to insert themselves into someone of their own gender to represent themIs this the case? I almost never feel any urge to self insert into a story. I just want to read a good story. Maybe that’s the reason I think all the popular power fantasy isekai trash is complete dog shit
>>282063644That manga was cute.
>>282063618We really do
>>282063618Even worse than yuri harems.
>>282063710It was. But iirc, I wished the ending had more closure, though I guess this manga tried to be true to life that way.
>>282063847Yuri harems are kino and popular too
>>282063226>still needing translations and basing what you read entirely on what scanlators choose for you
>>282063644Yuri danshi explores exactly the same premise of a man wanting to be the wall in a lesbian relationship, although it is almost pure comedy.
>>282063909Two or three (a bit of a stretch) yuri harems are popular. Most popular yuti right now however do not include that element.
>>282062927But is CGDCT primarily a romance like yuri is? This self-insertion phenomenon for guys happens more often when there's a romance.
>>282063937Kek, I hated this manga because the women were all despicable, it makes you almost feel sorry for the yurifag.
>>282063937Sure, but a Yuridanshi/himedanshi is less common than a fujoshi. Not saying this disconnect doesn't happen to the opposite sex, but rather not as often as it does for female anime and manga fans.
>>282063675>Is this the case?No, he's just spamming and coping. Shows with exclusively female characters are hugely popular with men, and while BL has some popularity, there is no equivalent of it for women.If anything men are much more engaged with content that has no men in it at all, than women are with content that has no women in it.
>>282063937I'm glad that stupid idea died and was ressurected as the BL manga it should have always been.
>>282063675If you are only looking to be entertained by a good story from the viewer's perspective, and that is because you are outside that "majority" of sick people who are only looking to insert themselves into a male character to feel fulfilled.
>>282060103Yaoi is Japanese traditionYuri is western degeneracy
400k on Suika
>>282063675Self-inserters are like trannies. They cope over their life by imagining themselves to be something they are not and they are also wildly delusional about how common their mental illness is.
>>282063618We just need more well written straight vanilla relationships
>>282064181>Shows with exclusively female characters are hugely popular with men...which often lack romance. The original question was comparing two romance genres and why one was more popular for one demographic, but not vice versa for the other. Hell, the original question even clarified and acknowledged a show full of pretty women was popular with men, but not so much as BL when girls kissing is involved.
>>282064290A tradition they tried to sweep under the rug at their last Olympic Games.
>>282064390What do you mean?
>>282064043>But is CGDCT primarily a romance like yuri is?Weird goalpost moving away from a supposedly universal phenomenon. But also most of the classical all-women ecchi shows had romance elements. Queens Blade with Reina and her sisters, Bikini Warriors had a full on couple and a poly fuckpile and so on.
>>282057937
>>282064383>The original question was comparing two romance genresBL is not a romance genre. Even way less so than yuri.
>>282064440>Queen Blade>All WomenDid you forget Airi making out with the shota or something?
>>282064492Is this one shota, who was one characters fetish gimmick, supposed to make Queens Blade not a all-girl cast? He was as much of a character as the tentacle rape staff.
>>282064440Lets not forget all the yuri romance in the male lead shows, like SnQ.Basically that fag is just a retard making shit up.
>>282064551Add a shota to kiss the girls in other works, see how well it plays out
>>282064383>which often lack romanceThe whole reason we have a yuri genre in this form is all the seinen shows with all-girls casts wanting to fuck eachother japan made since the 80s.Did you think cgdct is a new phenomenon?
>>282064603I like onee-shota, so sure why not. No idea what it has to do with anything though. Are you saying this character was the male self-insert for the queens blade anime? Genuine retardation.
>>282064701I am saying if he is such a minor nothing character like you claim people will be totally okay with it and won't result in an immediate axe
>>282064751What kind of retarded logic is this?
>>282064783The logic that proves that no one thinks of all female cast if there is a fucking guy in the cast you retard, especially if his role is to kiss girls
>>282064819Anti-yurischizos really neednto take their meds. NPCs aren't part of the cast. If a girl talks to a male policeman its not no longer a "all girls cast" you weird fucking schizo.
>>282064819Ah I see, the refuge in audacity after having your made up bullshit disproven. Kill yourself.
>>282064862You need to watch Queen Blade again, that filth not the "yuri" series you think it is.
>>282061029I think you should go watch the fucking anime
>>282060103It's shit.
>>282061273>>282061481Yagate Kimi ni Naru was very popular for a wholesome yuri manga
>>282063764>>282063909>>282064300Your posts don't look normal. They aren't subtle. You're mentally ill.
>>282061125>wentYou mean Kamisama? Dude was flirting with Part 2's MC early on. I'm pretty sure he outright stated he was bi. Ryere was no "went"
>>282064909No one said QB was a yuri series here, your programming glitched. The argument was about shows aimed at men and if they need a male self-insert to appeal to men. I get you are so trapped in your routine of always the same shitposts though, reading comprehension was likely the first victim. Queens Blade the anime was absolutely a yuri series though.
>>282065006huh?
>>282064909Did you not just say cgdct is distinct drom yuri, why is your argument now about if queens blade is yuri?Wouldn't the fact its not just proof even more that you self-insertcucks are delusional?
>>282060103Who in their right mind would voluntarily read/watch a series about lesbians?
>>282064997>yagakimi>wholesomeIt's classic angsty drama. Touko is an inarguable menhera. She does a lot of indirect emotional damage to Yuu. It's vanilla romance, but vanilla has drama. It has a happy ending, but there's pain on the way. Pure light and fluffy romance has always been the outlier.
>>282061125In fact, most authors who love BL take advantage of the weakness of self-inserting themselves into a character of their own gender that most of their male audience has, to slap on a BL disguised as a spokon
>>282065136Straight men
>>282062175That cannot be true because I was told yuri is the straightest animango genre to ever exist.
>>282065156>watches yuri>straightlol
>>282065061I want to see someone do the scene where せんせえ is under Rin's skirt, licking those thighs she can't stop eyefucking
>>282065145I mean even in straight romance it's really rare to find a story with absolutely 0 drama. Even some of the happiest romance got their "misunderstandings" tropes and family drama. That's why i thought that Yagakimi was really tame for a yuri manga, of course Touko is menhera but she is still a pretty nice and gentle girl in the end, not a full blown psycho.
>>282065261>That's why i thought that Yagakimi was really tame for a yuri manga,I'd say something like Hana ni Arashi is "tame for a yuri manga". Yagakimi is more on the Kase-san level of mild drama. Even above something like Can't say no to the lonely girl.
>>282065219NTA.>Why are straight guys obsessed with lesbians?>Wow! This chocolate bar sure is good, but you know what would make it better? Wow! Another chocolate bar. 2 of a thing I like, together!https://youtu.be/_GGwfGSHJCY?t=442
>>282060103>Why isn’t yuri more popular?They lost 41% of their audience
>>282065006What a strange post
>>282064440It isn't the goalpost moving, that's what the question was in the beginning of the post chain. >We know that guys love pretty anime girls so how come most of them don't care about pretty anime girls kissing other pretty anime girls?Again, it's not that romance is absent in any CGDCT, (which for the most part, aren't ecchi) but rather the genre is not *primarily* a romance. And again, self-insertion happens *more often*, not always, in romances. I am not talking in absolutes.
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>>282065548That quote makes no mention of romance, and anons have repeadetly shown you proof by examples that your claim>most of them don't care about pretty anime girls kissing other pretty anime girlsIs factually wrong. Girls kissing girls is clearly and provably popular even outside yuri genre works, in virtually exclusively male consumed media. Such as the mentioned softcore anime like QB, BW SnW and so on.
Where's the thread?
>>282062824Aha, and this is coming from someone who has never changed the sheets in a room after a gay boys couple left the hotel.
>>282064997Too bad maleshit and hetshit ruined it
One day these threads will go peacefully without any schizo showing up.
>>282066009Why do you hate your own gender?
>>282066046Only if the .. I guess now 3 of them die.
>>282066046Tell it to the easily triggered retard who can't stop himself from replying to everyone
>>282066053You dont get it. He’s a woman now
>>282062379Well, because the only way a yaoi thread can survive in /a/ is if it has something related to yuri.
horse yuri is great
>>282063911The reason people think there's more slop today is because EVERYTHING gets translated.Back in the day translators were fewer and they were selective with anime/manga that caught their interest.In short, if something didn't get a translation for a medium-term/long-term, then there's something wrong with it.
>>282061565
>>282066053>>282066180Why can't you get freaks out of your mind for at least a minute?
Wholesome yuri is great and I wish more vanilla one-shots could be serialized. We can make a whole anthology on it.
>>282066251based
>>282066251>>282066542>t. self-insert faggot
>>282065725>That quote makes no mention of romance, Ah, I see now why we're not seeing eye to eye on this. Personally, I see it that quote as a funny way to talk about yuri, which to me, is a romance genre. The insinuation that he's still talking about yuri was because of the previous sentence, which said "Women are buying BL in droves but there's relatively little enthusiasm from men about yuri." This implied to me that he's talking about the romance genre of yuri rather than mere fanservice of girls kissing.
I completely forgot about this NTR anthology. Was it any good?
Maybe there is a happy medium somewhere between "If someone somewhere in Japan once drew fan art of the girls making out then the series is officially yuri" and "If there is a maleshit prick then its yuribait hetshit, except for the fat ugly ntr man I self insert as, uuuh... he's okay".
>>282065725I'm the guy who made the original post. What I was trying to say is that BL is vastly more popular and successful with women than yuri is with men. Which is objectively true.>B-B-But green manga is extremely popular! Even more popular than BL!Mainly consoomed by women I'm afraid.
>>282066820Accepting spectrums is too complex, our monkey brains want black and white thinking.
>>282066096My money is on prick-kun going first since he's a morbidly obese 41%er.
>>282066877As someone who doesn't watch/read this series what's thew context of this image and why isn't one spanking the other?
>>282066747This one wasn't leaked in the usual places somehow.
>>282066820Almost everyone ITT occupies a spot in that middle ground, so what domyou mean by that?
>>282066916Its aftercare time
>>282066747>Was it any good?>NTR anthology
>>282066839I mean sure, but there isn't really a point in this comparison, BL and yuri are different things, with different cultural impact and stories, let's also not pretend yaoi is not the most popular type of BL and one of the reasons why it's so popular is because most heterosexual smut is male centric and BL is full "female gaze".
>>282061806That sounds insufferable.
>>282067155Yeah, I mean, no box cutter?
>>282061806This is one of the reasons people say it's just a common yuri story and nothing people pretend it is like.
>>282066566Fun fact, the art I posted is made by a fujo. Fucking women, holding up almost the entirety of BL and half of yuri by themselves.
>>282067394>Fucking women, holding up almost the entirety of BL and half of yuri by themselves.I really don't wanna intrude on your worldview. But sometimes I wonder if anons realise women are literally half the population. Its not really particularly crazy...
Thoughts on yuri forged by severe shared trauma?
>>282065292>>282065592>>282065750Obsessed schizo.
>>282065428Lack of male characters to selft-insert into, which is why yaoi is more popular among male audiences than yuri itself.
>>282060103Not enough hair
Utena and Azul tribbing is so hot
>>282067799Where. sauce me NOW
>>282062642>green manga is published with virtually no competitionIf green manga has no competition, then it has to be noticebly different from other yuri manga on some level, which is my point.
>>282067898It's green.
I'm curious on the numbers on yuri and yaoi. Who is the main audience and why?I never read any of these btw. Any yuri you would suggest?
>>282067974Yuri audience has always clean split while yaoi is mostly women.
>>282067974>Any yuri you would suggest?Lurk or fuck off.
>>282067974>Any yuri you would suggest?my favorite one is boku no pico
>>282067898It has no competition because most of it's audience is not the same audience that usually buys yuri manga, which should be obvious by the numbers it's pulling.
>>282067591>male audiencesWhich male audience? The het or the gay? I don't think het male audiences consume that much yaoi, unlike yuri which probably has more het female audiences than the het male audiences who read yaoi, in proportion. It's also common that sometimes fujoshis read/write some yurified yaoi (by that i mean yuri with yaoi tropes rather than yuri tropes). So yuri probably has more tourists than yaoi
>>282067974Ignore the trannies trolling, what type of yuri you want?
>>282068103You're a fucking retard, Anonymous.
>>282068103>It's also common that sometimes fujoshis read/write some yurified yaoi (by that i mean yuri with yaoi tropes rather than yuri tropes). So yuri probably has more tourists than yaoiYou don't even know what you are talking about anon.
>>282063226where do we rank us Kasumi spammer ?
>>282068103>het male>read yaoiLOL
>>282068109Thanks anon I was losing my mind with those answers kek Something mild, with a good story. Like the Yuri isn't the most important thing in the story
>>282068169A het male comfortable with his sexuality could read yaoi.
>>282068188And that would only be a closeted faggot
>>282068188Nah man he gay.
>>282068186Oh, in that case try Gushing over Magical Girls. It's a pretty standard starter.
What's with the faggots constantly bringing up yuri vs yaoi shit everywhere?
>>282068231Thanks I'll take note. What about Bloom Into you?
>>282060103What is this?
>>282068281Maria Watches over Us
>>282068169but they read shonen en masse ???
>>282068281Tomorrow
>>282068127Yuri and Yaoi are not the same thing with different genders, the writing is traditionally different, so when you take a yaoi story and make it with girls it's notorious.
>>282068347Fuck off retard, UtenaAzul is the hottest shit
>>282068275its a romance manga so its foucsed on the yuritry otherside picnic. MC is autismo maximus so the Yuri take a while
>>282068275You're still being trolled.
>>282068407Shut up, you'll scare the redditfag away.
5 tomorrows btw. Also retardog didnt update yesterday. And where tf is the Amayo, Odoriba TL?
>>282068319Shonen is just shonen. I'm talking about guys who regularly read yaoi and saves yaoi fanart and thinks about yaoi in bed before going to sleep. The same way we consoom yuri.100% gay behavior. Not that I'm saying there's anything bad about it.
>>282068186https://bato.si/title/128879/2352664-vol_1-ch_1Start with the classic.
>>282067394Based
>>282068188There is nothing wrong with that either, but it would be an exceptionally rare specimen.
>>282068515
>>282068539I'm straight and I sometimes read yaoi, though not nearly with the same frequency as yuri.
>>282068570Hmm.....
>>2820685702D is 2D and 3D is 3D.If you find a Loli hot that makes you a pedo?Same here
>>282068704Yeah, indeed. I find it silly how people here are so hostile to self-inserting, but then the notion that a guy could read yaoi without being gay himself is implausible when it's the same principle.
>>282068188Im straight and I loved BravernTho its light on the Yaoi since its Robot on man action
>>282068679I only see tranny characters on>Romcoms>Harem>Battle shonenGuess publishers know their audience
>>282068358Again, you have no idea what you are talking about, you are just projecting.
>>282068370Based
>>282068704>>282068741Let's make a distinction here, if you are reading a yaoi manga it doesn't necessarily say something about your sexuality, unless you are reading yaoi smut, then honestly just come out.
>>282068188This. I'm a straight male and I read Locon and Tsukuru works without feeling gay at all.
>>282060103yuri is such a nortubel tier fetish
>>282068570How into yaoi are you? Do you have specific ships you're invested in?
>>282068902>How into yaoi are you?I read what a fujo friend of mine lends me every once in a while. She herself doesn't like to read very lewd stuff so what I get is pretty tame.>Do you have specific ships you're invested in?Galo should do mouth to mouth CPR on Lio on a daily basis.
>>282068862What's a nortubel?
Not shitposting, let's be honest:Do you genuinely want to see girls dating, kissing and loving each other, or are you the type that fantasizes about fucking them? Where your moral compass falls as a yuri enjoyer?
>>282069094I have no desire to see girls from yuri works in non-yuri situations.
>>282068848Then if you're reading loli smut, does that mean you're a pedo?
>>282069094>are you the type that fantasizes about fucking them?I'm physically repulsed by the thought and I will only tolerate those fags under anonymity.
>>282069138Yeah.
>>282069094option 2, Its the straight male choice. Actual lesbian's bore me to tears.
I want a romance narrative that's interesting, and I want it to contain only girls. I don't desire any participation in that narrative, and I also have no desire to have sex.
>>282069094I put a big wall between both.I wann see girls in Yuri being Yuri and seeing Yayas getting pretty girlfriend
>>282069094I find some yuri girls hot, because well they are draw in a hot way, but I don't see the point of fantasizing this type of dynamic.
>>282068816Projecting what? It's fact that both things developed separately and they're different. Or you know the yaoi equivalent of Utena, yuruuri, or watayuri? If you don't know it's because yuri and yaoi are not the same thing when it comes to writing and other things associated to these genres .
>>282069094I think its a fundamental difference in how people see romance shows in general. Like, do you watch Toradora and fantasize about being Ryuji and fucking Taiga? I just liked seeing how cute they are together and wanted to see their relationship work. Same with yuri, i just like the narrative of two people falling in love.
Sometimes not wanting to fuck the yuri girl is very difficult...
>>282069199I get this, like as a man you can recognize that a character is attractive, but with yuri you kinda redirect that lust to "Oh I hope X or Y fucks her".
>>282069169Lol no, it was scientifically proven by the LGD thread on /h/ that everyone who has this type of fantasy is in fact a tranny.
>>282069138You conceptualize the idea and you enjoy it, whether you find IRL people or kids in this case to be attractive is another thing.
>>282064140Sorry anon, all these faggots proved you wrong
>>282069094Anonymous, please understand that you are a three dimensional human being who has no influence over what fictional lesbians do. Once you learn that perhaps you can come to enjoy yuri too.
>>282069205I am not saying they are the same thing, I am saying you are projecting tropes that you believe are inherently from yaoi into yuri works and this is just a delusion you made in your head.
>>282060553>the previous attempt of portraying just close female bonds was actually banned by the japanese government.I thought this was in like, the 1920s or something? It was a long time ago. I don't think it has any relevance to modern japan.
>>282069094I self-insert as the more pathetic girl and live out my AGP fantasies through them
>>282069466Based
>>282060103Because yuri tends to be written by homosexual women, the manga industry don't have a ton of women working in it and even an smaller number of homosexuals women.
>>2820690941 for actual yuri 2 for yuribait.
>>282069436Class S was the inspiration of a lot of early yuri authors, even before the commercial use of the word yuri, but the point is the cultural roots of what already had works about implicit lesbianism was basically killed at that point and it only managed to take off when women in japanese society started to break off from traditional roles in the late 80s.
>>282069517Anon...>A recent survey conducted by Mannavi in November 2021 found that about 77% of mangakas are femaleAnd most artists are women too, even on yuri most Light Novel authors are male but all light novel artists are femaleAlso most yuri authors are straight women, some even married.
>>282069529What's an example of yuribait in your opinion?
>>282069138It's likely to be the case I'm afraid.
>>282069634NTA but I consider stuff like Gochiusa to be grey area, I don't blame artists for doing het hentai of it for example.
>>282069596I find myself very puzzled by all this information.
>>282069654>I don't blame artists for doing het hentai of itI do! >:^(
>>282069665Think like this, it will probably help>There is a irrelevant % of male authors doing shoujo or josei which have as many magazines or are available online as many shonen/seinen works>Same goes for BL>Like 10% or maybe 15% of yuri authors are guys>Meanwhile you have a lot of female authors in shonen and seinen magazines, the most popular shonen of all time, Kimitsu no Yaiba, has a female author.
>>282069596Some Yuri artists are also Bl artists, like the author of “She Likes to Cook, She Likes to Eat“ also draw a lot of BL before.In general women love lgtb issues regardless of their sexual orientation because muh feelings, Hurt/comfort, sexuality is deep, etcetc.That's also why there are a lot of Dykes who are into Bl
>>282069596Enjoying yuri is one thing, but can you really write yuri and be straight?
>>282069865Shit ton of author do
>>282069865Women can't be straight.
>>282069865Every good writer is capable of abstraction.
>>282069865Can you write about slaying dragons without slaying dragons yourself?
>>282069918>he doesn't regularly slay dragons on the way to the Yuri Mart
>>282069845A lot of them have draw BL, most of them like BL. Lots of lesbians are into BL because lots of women are into it, kinda like you also have lesbians into heterosexual dating games because they are popular. >>282069865Women are more used to being emotionally closer to each other, so it's not really a stretch to write yuri when all you have to do is play up those dynamics, there isn't the same stigma as a guy writing BL would have, ultimately a good author can write anything.Though some women who claim to be straight write too much yuri smut for it not to be suspicious.
>>282069951I am still mad the dykes of that manga poisoned an innocent dragon.
>>282069982The pleb need names of those closeted dykes
>>282070007I thought they were going to befriend that dragon. That shit was messed up.
>>282070057Kodama Naoko would be the number 1 the list, she sure enjoys writing women cucking guys.
>>282070058This is why we can't allow lesbians to be politicians
>>282069865Author of this has two children.
>>282070104She said in the comments she is bisexual though.
>>282070089Too late. In germany the leader of the AFD is a lesbian. We already have lesbian hitler.
>>282070073I always tought she said she was one
>>282070150The german would never do anything bad to anyone who didn't deserve it.
>>282070057>>282070073Mengo Yokoyari could be a bisexual or homo.
>>282068084>most of it's audience is not the same audience that usually buys yuri mangaBecause they see it as different from other yuri manga, obviously. Otherwise they would buy yuri manga.
>>282070211She is also married, so either bi or straight menhera
>>282070150In Italy the leader of the center-left is a lesbian jew. Yuri between them when?
>>282069596Women mangaka have always been higher in count the only reason the readership is 50/50 is because the average women yuri fan prefers live action over anime and manga.
>>282070225Anon, you are writing an obvious contradiction, they can't know what yuri manga is like if they don't buy yuri manga. Twitter and smart of use of social media, with an interesting premise (for that audience) and use of artwork and color managed to make the series go viral, but anyone actually reading it will tell you it's just a common yuri story following common yuri tropes, which shouldn't be surprised from an author that in fact wrote for Yuri Hime before.
>>282069392Right, but what i'm saying if that a yuri came from different places, just as Utena is an antithesis to tragic yuri, YuruYuri is inspired from k-on and watayuri is a contrast between old yuri and modern yuri. That's why those things can't exist in yaoi.Now, for example pic related comes from yaoi. First of all it was made by a yaoi writer. Then the characters are anything but characters from yuri. In general, men tend to be written in a very simplistic manner in romance stories, unlike girls which are more complex. That's why a lot of yaoi stories have very simplistic characters that are just there for the sake of the relationship and are mostly explained in terms sexual behavior without deepening too much in the character. These two girls are written as if they were men in a very simplistic manner and are not even more interesting than the male characters.Not to mention the hetshit which sometimes happens in more mature yuri, but this thing is not mature, is a school story, and yuri writers don't do that. And finally, everything is just explained by sexual desire, without the internal-social-existential implications that normally happen in yuri, especially in a yuri like this, but that doesn't happen here, it's just sexual desire mutated into love, which is a normal thing in yaoi.
>>282070295I don't think readership is 50/50, though your reasoning is correct, it doesn't help shoujo and josei lost the pipeline to younger female audiences which nowadays would rather read shonen and seinen manga.
>>282070300>they can't know what yuri manga is like if they don't buy yuri mangaJust because you don't buy something doesn't mean you don't know what it's like. Most people don't buy isekai and they have a rough idea what the average one is like. In fact, it is precisely their opinion of what an average isekai LN is like that makes them hesitant to buy isekai.
>>282069634lycoreco is yuribait, otoh jerryfish isn’t.
>>282070311Anon it's exactly as I said, you are just projecting, what you are describing is every smut story ever which isn't focusing specifically on the male demographic, NTR Trap follows the template of most josei smut with characters forcing themselves on others but ultimately being insecure about their own feelings. Also NTR Trap is also a yaoi manga which somehow goes unnoticed by some people, even though it even had a chapter published in a yaoi magazine. Yuri Hime Wildhose had like 40 oneshots that were basically this minus the cheating.
>>282070391I don't think so anon, most of them just dislike the fantasy or action or male protagonist settings and don't look beyond that, most people don't really have an opinion about it at all, it just doesn't appeal to them, I will never read BL and have zero idea of what a BL story is like.
>>282070115Bisexuals are fake and gay.
>>282070412Why do people consider both of yuribait again?JP pretty much actively calls both yuri and 99% of the fanart and doujins are also gay.
>>282070543>I will never read BL and have zero idea of what a BL story is like.We're not talking about consumers that would never read yuri. We're talking about the demographic that will read yuri in the right circumstances, just like there's a demographic of non-isekai fans who will read one in the right circumstances. This audience is going to be larger than the hardcore isekai audience and is going to have some familiarity with the genre.
i think fujo BLs are kinda hot sometimes
>>282070668So is most Hibike artwork and doujin anon.
>lycorecoyuri>jellyfishyuri>uma musumeyuri, pic related
Every time there's a thread with an OP asking why yuri isn't popular, it always devolves into this
>>282070668Anon, the circumstances are something that present itself to the audience, not the opposite, the point is they are not seeking those works, going viral on twitter helped it reached an audience other yuri works are unable to, actually which most works regardless of yuri or not, are unable to.
>>282070833Would you rather have the schizos getting another thread preemptively killed?
>>282070833Far healthier for discussion.
>>282070833No one is stopping you from making another thread man, this isn't /u/.
>>282070833Should have used the Adorable Sensei thread
>>282069326How does this thread prove otherwise? It's not about what percentage of the himedanshi audience is feeling this disconnect from the yuri couple, which is a somewhat common mindset for a hime. It's about what percentage the average male anime and manga fan versus the average female has these qualities. No shit a thread like this would be skewed towards the "wall" mindset, because anons who respond here are likely yuri fans. It's also explaining why there's less himedanshis than fujoshis.
yuri can only be determined and analyzed using first-order propositional logic
>>282070611LycoReco is yuribait because while Takina is possibly gay, Chisato just a straight or asexual girl who's heavy on skinship. She's also a shit.Jellyfish is gay but copped out hard and got rightfully forgotten by the majority of the yuri community.
>>282070816>pic relatedWas this really a date or was it just two girls hanging out or worse just training together?
>>282071106Glad this mangaka left Kirara. Not only is he doing far more yuri heavy series now, kirara pretty much went from subtext heavy to outright yuri most of the time now.
>>282060103girls get off to literary smut while guys mainly only need something visual. even if male yurifags were equal to female fujos in number (they aren't), much less of them want to read a whole manga dedicated to it when art or videos suffice.
>>282070788>the point is they are not seeking those worksBut the question is why. Normally when you like something, you seek out things similar to it. This is the whole reason genres exist in the first place.
>>282067534It's incredible when done well. I want to see more autistic psychopaths like Kimika in yuri. There really is nobody else like her.
>>282071026Uma anime pretty much lean completely into completely gay but not gay sports anime thing.
>>282071271That doesn't really answer the question, but thanks. Also, I am familiar with the show. just stopped after the first season.
>>282071253She weirdly has male weapon autism.
>>282068370>>282068835How about you fuck off and stop spamming every thread.
>>282071187Most people don't know they like something until they actually read it, it went viral with the right audience on X, those people are not going to ever go out of their way to buy Yuri Hime or search if there is even books specifics for this type of dynamic in stores. >>282071106He is on FUZ which is kirara online service.
>>282071306The entire franchise really is a tragic case of unfulfilled yuri entirely caused by the owners of horses being prudes and not being able to handle heavy amounts of yuri from the pilot and the manga.
>>282071317She goes even a step further and has Anarchist Cookbook autism. Any anime girl who threatens to blow up the school if somebody touches her girlfriend is A+ material in my book.
Male audiences in general don't really care about romance.
slop and pabulum is always more popular than fine cuisine. it’s no indication of quality.
>>282071026It was a very yuriful girlship date.>>282071306Go watch the second season it's overall the most yuri of the bunch.
What yuribait lives rent-free in your heads?
>>282071463But we don't have only yuri romance nowadays
>>282071401Should've been the main couple
>https://mangadex.org/chapter/414dd800-ec65-483d-adad-571c694a3c85Thoughts?
>>282069276You saw their circlejerk forum members once and now you start seeing them everywhere. What is this symptom called again?
>>282071594Lol no, the whole site heard about what happened there
>>282071504>Go watch the second season it's overall the most yuri of the bunch.So I've heard. I was watching it while it aired but dropped it very early on for no reason in particular. But I've just been watching less anime in general being a wageslave grandpa now.
>>282071571Remember to donate saar
>>282071571its very gay
I just can’t get into yaoi. Mens smelly assholes will never be sexy to me no matter how much they try to make the dudes resemble women.
>>282071651they replaced the asshole with yaoi hole
>>282060103>Why isn’t yuri more popular?Because is boring and no one wants their 2D waifu to be a disgusting dyke. I hope it continues to flop so that yurifags have nothing to enjoy.
>>282071610If I remember it starts with "f" and it's a seven letters word.
Why do women like yaoi
>>282071439She's technically not a true yuri girl. Cuz the kimika endings are what if scenarios.
>>282071364>those people are not going to ever go out of their way to buy Yuri Hime or search if there is even books specifics for this type of dynamic in stores. This is frankly unsubstantiated. It has a yuri tag on BookWalker and ComicWalker. It's sold in the yuri sections in store. The idea that the fans don't know is absurd. Show me one fan who was like, "I never knew they wrote stories about lesbians until I read green manga!"
Why would non-straight men interested in yuri, anyway?
>>282069276>4chin thread #1488>scientifically proven(X) Doubt.
>>282071809Money. Probably.
>>282071809There is nothing that stops anyone, of any gender, of any sexual orientation, from enjoying a good story.
>>282071809The romance? You know what the say is men are the romantics sex while women have more practical concerns like housing and take-home pay.
>>282071795You seem to misunderstand what I said, it goes back to "the circumstances have to present itself" otherwise they will never know more than "I know it exists in some form", people don't get interested unless it shows on their faces or people around them are talking about it, even on this thread you have people from this site completely clueless about it.
>>282071809Ask Nikumaru.
>>282071841It wasn't a 4chan thread, that was the point, they were warned by the users there if they made a discord everyone who was going to join in would be a tranny and months later someone made a report of all the users on the discord and turns out they were in fact all trannies and the whole site was laughing at them for not understanding only mentally ill men want to fuck lesbians.
>>282071866Only terminal normalfags and hopeless masturbation addicts wouldn't understand this.
>>282071631That's a cute TeiMaku. You need to catch up on Uma so you can watch the second cour of Cinderella Gray in October and suffer with us as we scrounge for yuri scraps.
>>282071965Nikumaru is married.
>>282071778I don't understand that take. She's in love with Zakuro in all routes. That's her core motivation for killing so many people. Even if she only gets to have sex with her in one route.
>>282071986>trannies on DiscordTruly a rare event.
>>282071866LOL, LMAO.>>282071938Pretty sure that the people saying that, are also the people who say that true love is only possible between a man and a woman, and that anything else is hedonism.>>282071965Do you have any actual evidence he's not straight?
>>282072085>Do you have any actual evidence he's not straight?I don't. But he enjoys both straight and yuri.
>>282072141>he's the average straight maleOk?...
>>282071986
I'm not straight, I guess. I'm playing Dramatical Murder uncensored, but it does absolutely nothing for me. The story and aesthetics are cool, tho. I'm not repulsed, but I don't find it titillating. I've played a SFW Western female/female visual novel, and it was cool too.
>>282072055>>282072181Sorry anons, but it has been proven LGD is a tranny thing and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>282072246No, it wasn't. Your evidence is pretty flimsy. Saying it was "scientifically proven" is completely delusional.
>>282072246Seven letters words that starts with "f" and ends with "i". What is it again?
Why would trannies that want to fuck lesbians self-insert into men?
>>282072023She canonically only has sex with a guy.
>>282071571It’s shit and they asked for donation. The manga’s alright.
>>282071571Bought this blind a while back on a whim and it's been sitting on my virtual shelf ever since. But are we talking about the story or the translation?
>>282071571>draw shota>call it girl
>>282072298Because they are men.
>>282071631>>282071504>>282070816>>282067394>>282066542I'm gonna assume this horsefucker only eats popular self-insert yuribaits like Uma and Hibike while shits on nice but actual yuri ones like Sakura Trick and Strawberry Panic
>>282072455But the thing is that they see themselves as women.
>>282072444her upper body isn't V shaped enough to be male.
>>282072466Anon, it's a fetish, they don't really see themselves as women, they just want you to call them women, the biggest proof of this is that every tranny in dating app is searching for real women and not other trannies, some of them even have been caught literally saying they want to date real women.
>>282072546Okay. Can you post some examples of trannies creating MFF art?
>>282071323Kill yourself retard
>>282072607FFM is not the same thing as LGD you retarded tranny
>>282072696Ah, sorry. I'm sure that Africa and the Caribbean are full of trannies.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape
>>282071939>people don't get interested unless it shows on their faces or people around them are talking about itPeople get interested if they see a page of a manga that interests them and the entire series holds their attention. If you're argument is that the twitter algorithm is showing people just Green Manga, then by extension, the alogrithm knows that Green Manga is the only interesting yuri manga to them. And obviously that is for a reason.
>>282069276Finally someone who notices, the circle jerking on those threads is the gayest shit i've ever seen
>>282072743Not the slightest the same thing, not even human related in this case.
>>282071571You just know that their first idea was making studentXteacher before they changed to 2 teachers
>>282072821Of course is not.
>Majima schizo seething about yuri being popular thread #83748234This is just pathetic. BTW top seller this year is going to be yuri again.
>>282072792It has to have a format appropriated to it and the person understanding how to capitalize on it. And no anon, the X algorithm is not some mind reading machine, a lot of the times it just goes down to the words used in the text itself, actually if you look some popular yuri tweets, you will a lot of them completely omits the yuri part and have just a generic description of the content.
>>282072882pretty sure a big part is the clustering of users who like that type of yuri. text doesnt mean much in these recommendation systems. if you like something that has a big group of enjoyers then you will be put into that cluster and get recommended the same content as them
>>282072868what one? Green?
>>282072878Built for BTC (Big Trainer Cock)
>>282070995>Chisato just a straightThere is literally nothing to suggest she's straight and she shows zero interest in any guys.
>>282072937She likes mjm
>>282071401>>282071564>>282072274Please. Please. Go to a therapist.
>>282072937Except when she interacts with the green haired villain
>>282072908We know you just want to join ffmm foursome.
>>282072957>>282072966Specifically shots him in the face multiple times with the intention of killing him.But it's not like you actually believe what you're saying. You're just trying to "troll".
greenshit
oh know
>>282073001>>282073009Impotent rage.
>>282072976>Ojisan with lesbiansnow that's better
Green manga is an insult to yuri
>>282073021Failed troll.
>>282072962Imposter
>>282072976>>282073021We will witness a massive hypocrisy.
>>282073021Soulless>>282072976Soul
>>282072991She knows he won't die and shares indirect kisses with him btw
>>282073033>>282073039>>282073079Your life's a joke.
>>282073056>>282073076totally not samefag
>>282073113plot twist, renako is the one with the strap on
>>282073099>>282073021totally not samefag
>>282073146Cute Ojiwives!
>>282073146Cute majiwives
>>282073164KEK>>282073169KWAB
>>282073113>>282073164>>282073169Spastic impotent retard.
>>282073113>>282073125Renako could easily dominate everyone, maybe just Satsuki would resist
>>282072911Once the process started then yes, it will share the interest between users who already share other interests, it's the whole point after all, but before that the algorithm has little to do with what will do with a yuri series, it's even possible the algorithm found the perfect target group for green manga purely by an unusual combination of metrics that don't really make sense, unrelated but nowadays it's also very likely there is some AI algorithm creating some internal tagging for images, I wouldn't be surprised because it has been a while since my feed was flooded with images of solo girls meant for waifufags and this used to be a common occurrence.
>>282073056solved
>>282073342Oh how cute two gay couples getting married
>>282073342Now it's actually solved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk9iH-nunro
>>282073382I accidentally created the best ship.
>>282073076>A weapon to surpass Majimafag
>>282073408Turns out yaoi is in fact more popular
>>282073443A Cute Kot. She needs more broccoli.
Remember when the broccoli-fucking retard kept saying "Uma Musume sold, Tamayomi flopped" to P-kun during those Stalker thread days? Good times
>>282073612Whatever happened to stalker threads? I want to see how Watanare is doing
>imagine getting mindbroken by a fucking veggie
>>282073670NOOOOOOO delete this I'm going insane
>imagine getting mindbroken by a fucking pussy
>>282073751NOOOOOOO delete this I'm going insane
>>282073670>>282073751I ship.
>>282073113I like how most of the girls are looking at Renako with love, and then Ajisai looks like she's barely restraining her lust.
>>282073113>no HanatoriFake and gay.
please forgive me for the image i am posting
>>282073873She’s listening at the door while feverishly fingering herself
any yuri with hairy pussy
>>282074099Watanare: Hanatori side story.
>>282073670>>282073711Imagine getting so mind broken by everyone hating you that you cope by thinking you mind break other people.
yuri where it was yaoi but turns out both are women
Can't wait for Eri's sex scene with Kyou to be animated
>>282074519We have this
>>282062175>Women are buying BL in droves but there's relatively little enthusiasm from men about yuri. What explains this phenomenon?it's getting sucked up by vtubers
>>282074524The anime is going to animate all her partners, it's going to be a full episode, 10 seconds for each one.
>>282062175Men mainly care about porn, not snoremance.
>>282074663then why yuri porn also flops?
>>282074569Is it dropped?
>>282074741Or any porn
>>282074663Weird how the most popular male oriented romances are completely celibate. The romance must be just that good.
Can't wait for Eri's sex scene with Fuyuki to be animated
>>282074741the porn in this series is not that good desuand the whole orc dream thing was very not goodi think yuri "porn" hentai is just too graphic
>>282069596>Sample size of 723 respondents
>>282075049how many mangakas are even there
>>282074741Ironically, VDM was followed mostly by women in Japan
aromi
>>282074663>>282074741This is a little outdated but as you can see, lesbian is #3 with Japanese women but not even in the top ten for Japanese men
>>282075049>>282075064They probably asked all the main magazines in the industry.
>>282075049According to ChatGPT, 723 respondents gives about ±3.65% margin of error at 95% confidence (and ~±4.79% at 99% confidence). Sounds pretty good to me.
>>282075190Best yuri
>>282074772>Weird how the most popular male oriented romances are completely celibateHarems are infamously for having ecchi content, while having an oddly asexual protagonist.
>>282075216The top one is NTR for men, isn't it?
>>282074772It's not weird at all. Straight men only watch straight romance. For porn; Men either watch straight and/or lesbian porn. Lesbian romance/relationship simply doesn't appeal to most straight men.
>>282075471>Lesbian romance/relationship simply doesn't appeal to most straight men.Men in general, actually. I can't see it would be different for non-straight men. In fact, they have even less of a reason to bother with yuri.
>>282075528Some gay men like yuri. For example some anon in /m/ said he has a gay friend that disliked Bravern because it has too much fanservice but he loved GWitch because it was positive representation
>>282075366We don't have that many mangaka anon, the margin of error is going to be smaller than this
>not a single shuukura post this yuri thread sucks
>>282075528If I recall New Game! author is a male homosexual.
>>282075571>Some gay men like yuri.There are 8 billion people on Earth.Some statistical anomaly was bound to happen.
keep debatingi'm just gonna sneak in a 2hu doujinhttps://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/love_colored_boundary_ch11
>>282075605Do you have some kind of source?
>>282075444It's milf, though married women is third, trannies are 10 so not a good look for nips.
>>282075602I like how Hane comments on every piece of fanart
>>282075623This isn't doujin retard
>>282075645>It's milfOh, crisis averted then.
>>282075676This is why people are so invested in doing artwork.
Miyagi is shit. Sendai deserves better than a serial abuser with mommy issues that prevent her from properly displaying affection.
>>282075678strange creators in other world is still called a doujin anthology, even if it's official
>>282075716Doujin has nothing to do with being official or not, it's just a word for self published works. This work is published by a publisher.
>>282075708Japanese women want to be abused by Miyagi
>>282075708Sendai will never get better with the control issues she has, she will die alone.
>>282075444keep in mind the popularity of NTR includes netori, which includes a lot of rape/coercion/stealing women
I won
>>282060295Same here, I always introduce to my yuri friends to menhera stuff, it's like corrupting them on real time, I love it.
>>282075708Kys
>>282072937There's not much to suggest she's gay, either.
>>282074741The anime did reasonably well actually and so did the game. Its the gacha where the franchise went to die, because that was supposed to carry the fanbase for a bit and sucked up all of the profit.
"lesbians" are just women who haven't been cured by Majima yet
uh oh
>>282076843I posted 5 other times that you didn't catch btw
>>282073113>>282073113Tell me, why does this series have so many fags seething about the brown hair girl?
>>282076888It was when she became involved that it switched to being a poly relationship.
>>282076973Ironic
Did you know that non-heterosexual men and women are more likely to be into yuri and yaoi (respectively) than the general population?>In the 1989-1994 period, 4.53% of men and 3.61% of women self-reported homosexual sex ever, which grew to 8.18% of men and 8.74% of women in the 2010-2014 period.>Report on the Yuri Fandom Demographic Survey>The results for gender were roughly as I expected. Out of the 695 respondents, 328 were women, 308 were men, and 59 were non-binary or listed other for another reason.>23.38% of men marked a sexual orientation other than “heterosexual”.>https://floatingintobliss.wordpress.com/2017/10/14/report-on-the-yuri-fandom-demographic-survey/>Table 1: Basic Demographics>Female: 89% (n=350)>Bisexual: n=80>350*0.23=80>https://www.participations.org/Volume%205/Issue%202/5_02_pagliassotti.htmSadly, I cannot find more yaoi fandom surveys.There are more surveys on the yuri fandom, mostly from Reddit:r/yuruyuri, 2017: Out of 74 male voters, 59 identified as straight (79,72%), 10 as bisexual (13,51%); 1 as pansexual, 1 as asexual and 1 as gay (each 1,35%).* https://old.reddit.com/r/yuruyuri/comments/744f9k/ryuruyuri_demographic_survey_2017_results/dnx8g1p/* 2 identified as Apache Helicopter and Princessexual.r/yurimemes, 2021: Out of 1473 male voters, 1115 identified as straight (75,65%), 340 as bisexual (21,38%) and 18 as gay (1,22%)†.† A later 2022-10-15 survey on the same sub with only monosexual options saw that number increase to 72.r/yurimemes, 2022-10-01: Out of 914 voters picking specific male options, 717 identified as straight (78,44%), and 197 as bisexual (21,55%).r/yuri_manga, 2023: Out of 318 male voters, 278 identified as straight (87,42%), and 40 identified as non-straight (12,57%).A thesis on the Chinese yuri fandom (pic related) had 16 informants, with only 2 of them were male. Curiously, both of them identified as heterosexual, but "did not resist being in relationship with male".
>>282076843>coping by thinking other lolcowsshaky
How many morrows?
>>282077035>* 2 identified as Apache Helicopter and Princessexual.
>>282077186Apache helicopter was a popular meme at the time.It was evidently not sincere.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Sexually_Identify_as_an_Attack_Helicopter#Original_meme
>>282077167Two more rows.
>>282077334How do you not feel pathetic for begging a mentally ill horse fucker to protect you?
>>282077234>I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter" is a military science fiction short story by Isabel Fall, published on 1 January 2020 in Clarkesworld Magazine. The story relates the experience of Barb, a woman whose gender has been reassigned to "attack helicopter" so as to make her a better pilot. It was a finalist for the 2021 Hugo Award, under the title "Helicopter Story".Wtf lol. Maybe I should give short story writing a shot if the bar is that low.
You've been doing this for 5-7 years.
Lol did getting called a lolcow realy bother him this much?
>>282064290And how am I going to laugh when the low birth rate extinguishes them for trying to maintain their tradition
>>282062175Women are the drivers of commercial success that's how it plays out in every consumer market. Green manga was a breakout success specifically because it garnered female attention.
Bros, being a yurilolcow is playing life on hard mode. You can't fathom the mental damage you incur from years of watching your OTP being cucked in the canon material. It's a living hell.
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>>282077412cute
poly yuri best yuri
