In this house Rocks is a HERO. End of story.
>>282076057I mean Oda is very obviously portraying him as a hero you'd have to be a special kind of retarded to still think he isn't at this point. Worst thing he's done so far is give kid Loki a paper scratch.
AIfag, I request Vivi dressed up like Shantae
>>282076089>>282076089>>282076089>>282076089>END>OF>STORY
>>282076057/thread
>>282076057Imu will pull Rocks through the Abyss back to the flower chamber and then bucc break him
In this house Harold is a RAT. End of story.
>>282076089Think ahead a little bit. If Rocks is a hero, that means Garp is basically a villain. Which he know he isn't, so Rocks is going to do some nasty shit before this flashback is over.
>>282076305Lmao
>>282076057No need to be aggresive about it, Loki. We all agree.
>>282076305>that means Garp is basically a villain. Which he know he isn'tLMAOOOOO
>>282076057>hey look everyone is actually le heckin wholesome chungusI hate this so much.
>>282076305>Garp the Hero! Well, I knew him back when he was called Garp the Fist, and you know how he got that name? The guy was never satisfied after a fight until his fists were drenched in blood, he might not like us too much but he sure does enjoys himself, haha!
>>282076420For me, it's the Shakky dickriding. I'm surprised I'm didn't go ga-ga for her!
>>282076057Stussy. Sex.
>>282076420Kengan omega induced brain damage should be a scientifically recognized mental illness at this point.
>>282076272I wonder if the Numbers used genetic information from Harald to make the Numbers at Punk Hazard, wouldn't he be the only living ancient giant they'd have access to for a good century?
>>282076305>that means Garp is basically a villain.Yeah when you have Dragon and Saul actually defecting from the Marines because they were disgusted by the orders they were given, Garp looks bad.
>>282076448 (me)Meant imu
>>282076305>If Rocks is a hero, that means Garp is basically a villain.It doesn't. The enemy of a good guy can also be a good guy. Good guys fight each other all the time over all kinds of things, as do bad guys.
>>282076420So is there anyone actually evil in this series? Surely Imu will be purely evil and won't get a whole flashback explaining he's actually a nice guy right?
>>282076455She’s like Carrot, but actually attractive.
>>282076517Anon, Rocks is dead. They didn't have a "we have to talk it out the only way men can: with our fists" fight that good guys do before teaming up to fight the real villain. One of them is a bad hombre.
>>282076057why do you keep making early threads, you fucking retarded spic
>>282076542No worries about that happening because Imu will get a whole flashback explaining SHE's a nice GAL
>>282076550They even wear the same hat. Carrot is cute, Stussy is sexo.
HOW DARE YOU!
We hate Koby here.>>282076305True, Rocks is guilty of the GREATEST sins imaginable, which are stealing the Celestial Dragons’ lobsters AND freeing the slaves. The poor Tenryuubito had to go back home famished (had to eat 4 meals instead of the usual 5) and exhausted with bruised feet (no slave to ride on their back) on that sad day.
Rate my oc:>once the most handsome man in the world>a wielder of the ope ope made him immortal>was captured by the Celestial Dragons and won in a hunting competition >outlived his wife, became an honorary CD and eventually a Holy Knight>has to wear a mask to keep women and men from fainting or dying of nosebleeds
Remember, Oda approved of the special anime episodes for Film Red, which he wrote, which is also the newest version of Romance Dawn.
Rocks proclaiming he wants to be king of the world is not heroic. I doubt Oda would protray that as a positive.
>>282077002Does he have a big upper body and little legs?
If Blackbeard is the final antagonist for Luffy, what'll happen to Imu before Luffy confronts BB?
>>282077123Normal proportions but very tall
>>282077150this is gonna floor you. there can be 2 major antagonists that can be dealt with separately
>>282076106kill yourself /tv/cuck
>>28207654299% of the celestial dragons are cartoonishly evil, if that's what you're looking for in your badguys.
My very old OC I made back when I was 14-15:>18 year old girl from Alabasta>mythical zoan, horse-horse fruit, model: Buraq>horse form has a black coat with a white diamond and black-white gradient mane and tail with electric blue eyes>shy and wimpy in human form, brave and confident in hybrid and animal form>usually stays hybrid form, just like Chopper>fights bare-handed and uses electric elemental attacksmy other OC:>20 year old guy, who’s the horse girl’s brother>fights like a knight and wields a curved greatsword>has a very big backpack that “ate” the snake-snake fruit model: pythonI wish I didn’t throw away my old sketchbook
>>282077159Come back when he's at least this cool
>>282076305>garp the dog of the government doing their dirty work is totally not the villain guiseretard level of media literacy
>>282077169There is nothing that Oda could write for Imu that would make him a more compelling antagonist than BB. He would be retarded if he gave Imu a bigger or equal role to BB in the ending of the story.
so, is teach's whole deal a result of him being a davy, or what? Unless whitebeard adopts him later or something inexplicable happens to him in the next few chapters, I don't see any other reason why he'd be able to stomach multiple devil fruits and not need to sleepalso, god valley doesn't seem particularly snowy
>>282077181forgot to mention that the girl was my height (5’4”) but the brother was around Zoro’s height (6’0”).
>>282077084What if Davy D Jones was the king of the Ancient Kingdom? Ruling the world might be Xebec's birthright. Marie Geoise was promised to his people.>>282077150Defeated by Xebec who's inside of Teach
>>282077150>>282077204its pretty clear that Blackbeard is going to steal/usurp Imu's power before the end and become the new god/demon of darkness and sit at the seat of the world and declare himself pirate king (possibly after capturing/enslaving/marrying vivi himself)Making Luffy go on the final princess rescue arc to defeat him with a big punch, destroy the redline in the process (Luffy Gear 5 punch clashing with the Quake punch of Blackbeard) and achieving true freedom of the world
>>282077205the davy clan didn't originate in godsvalley, the survivors had just settled there because it was an unaffiliated kingdom their oppressors had (until the incident) paid zero attention to
Rate my oc>daughter of a yonko>is a oni>has a mythical zoan>is super duper strong >knew and was friend of ace>also trans
>>282077084>Imu as king of the worldSlavery, genocide, world drowning, thought control, literal island erasure.>Rocks as king of the worldnone of that, or at least no world drowning or genocide games.I know who to pick as my king.
>>282077227we don't know what the ancient kingdom's relationship was with the Lunarians, but we know that during the Second Era the Lunarians ruled the world as gods from atop the Redlineif the world is to be considered the Davy Clan's birthright then it's less likely that they are related to the Lunarian royal family and more likely that they are related to the King of the World of the 1st Era
>>282077179Tsk tsk, they just don't know better, final will have them lose everything and start from scratch, while everyone else is like "haha see, we all are the same!".
>>282077256>Can turn into a colorful magical japanese wolf god
Rate my oc>big gun
Rate my oc>boy from a small village in a peaceful part of the world>wants to become a pirate to live up to the dreams of his childhood hero>has a devil fruit that lets him bounce around and do cool punches, but i dont want him to be too overpowered>is actually related to famous heroes from the previous generation but keeps it a secret>partway through the story it will be revealed he is actually the reincarnation of an ancient god that will overthrow the evil at the top of the corrupt fascistic government and help usher in a communist utopia of freedom and partying where all races and countries are equal
why did oda just throw like half of his comic in the trash post-timeskip>smoker is luffy's rival? boooooring>tashigi is zoro's rivial? Who was she again?>lol, what were dials again?>chopper? Cool? nah son, he's a marketable plushie>franky has carpenter powers? what are you smoking. that never happened>creative power uses? Who needs them, we have haki now>seastone and island clouds come from wano? nah, that's boring. We need to wank off all these annoying samurai nobody gives a fuck about except redditors>vegapunk will explain devil fruits and how to feed them to guns? Where did I ever say that?
Only idiots can think that Xebec (and Blackbeard) are bad. Oda is an anarchist, and One Piece is an anarchist manifesto. Roger cannot be a good guy since he collaborated with a far-right government to protect his interests. Rufy and Barabanera can be seen as Trotsky and Stalin.
>>282077277The promised to his people thing is just a joke reference to Israel
>>282076305Garp works for and protects a fascist government. In Oda's mind he can only be an a villain. Have you ever heard about ACAB?
>>282077364>smoker is luffy's rival? boooooring>tashigi is zoro's rivial? Who was she again?Neither of them were rivals to Luffy or Zoro.
>>282076305This. Mindcucked faggots unironically think Garp is a villain at this point LMAO
>>282077459why is Kaido soiing out like that
>>282077459Oda is a leftist. How can a dog of a group of old fascists be the "good guy"? Garp would kill any strawhat if ordered but hey "he is le good guy"
>>282076057So why is his name rocks if his real name is davy?
>>282076305>Which he know he isn't, How is he not? He abused kids and spent his entire life defending a system that is run by literal demons
>>282077364>>smoker is luffy's rival? boooooring>tashigi is zoro's rivial? Who was she again?Neither of them were Luffy's and Zoro's rivals, retard>lol, what were dials again?Usopp and Nami uses them in their weapons. But seeing Impact Dials again would be cool I guess.>chopper? Cool? nah son, he's a marketable plushieAlways was>franky has carpenter powers? what are you smoking. that never happenedYou want to see cringe moments of Franky building random wooden stairs again? Lame. He maintains the Sunny.>creative power uses? Who needs them, we have haki nowWe still have creative power uses, you just seethe about Haki for no reason>seastone and island clouds come from wano? nah, that's boring. We need to wank off all these annoying samurai nobody gives a fuck about except redditorsIsland clouds never came from Wano. What is the problem here? Wano as an arc has problems sure but you're making no point>vegapunk will explain devil fruits and how to feed them to guns? Where did I ever say that?We won't get the actual full origins of Devil Fruits until Laugh Tale, that much was always obvious. Feeding objects Devil Fruits is a valid point though, but Lilith is still with the Straw Hats so don't jump the gun
>>282077436>>282077485Stop using the word "fascist" when you don't know what it means, it makes you sound retarded and indicates your commie leanings. The World Government is not corporatist, it's monarchist.
>>282077485Hasn't Garp outright disobeyed orders he didn't agree either before? I think it's obvious that Oda sees Garp as a flawed man with good intentions. Now has he been good at showing this? Not really. Maybe it worked from the Japanese perspective but having Garp watch his adopted son die in front of him and doing fuck all about it because of his duty is pretty irredeemable.
>>282077501Did you read the latest chapter?
>>282077556>right-wing mangaLmao
>>282077556His dad's flagship is named after the boat Fidel Castro used to get back into Cuba with his revolutionaries lol
>>282076542garling literally just killed the mother of his own children
>>282077556>>282077606unironically truenika is an aryan ubermensch who will overthrow a tiny nation of very special people who run the world and who have oppressed the bloodlines of their most hated enemythey have created a world of limited movement (very hard to sail between one island and the next), forced tribute to the land of the very special people, heavily controlled by propaganda and fear if you ever question the history of how the special people came into powerthey claim to be a world of equality sitting around a round table with no one king... but secretly controlled by a singular evil demonic entity that can order the death of anyone for... well we aren't sure exactly what imu's plan is, but it's fucking demonici hate to say it, but oda is a chud
>>282076305>PLEASE OHHH GOD; KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR NO REASON!!! I CAN'T DEAL WITH GREY AREAS....PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>Garp fought and defeated Rocks under the condition that the triannual genocide tournament be abolished hence why we have never heard about it in the present dayWould this salvage his reputation in your eye?
>>282077606>No argumentKek>>282077620What ship?
>>282077658So they can kill people in privacy in their city, he protects, instead of going outside and risking pirate raids or the info becoming public? yeah sure.
>>282077653TRVTHNVKE
>>282076305>Dragon you fucking retard, you're supposed to look the other way and accept your paycheck! How hard can it be? You're paying for your own healthcare boy! yep... the good guy btw
>>282077717The people that are that stupid are the ones who think One Piece is a leftist manga kek. Imagine being such cucked NPCs
whitebeard was rock's concubine with that long golden hair wasn't he
>>282077556I can’t believe retards like you read one piece and still stay this stupid lmaotake a look at Oda’s studio, he’s a lefty through and through, just like Kojima.
>>282077598Does he have a rock devil fruit?
>>282077717I'll give you a hint: Mary Geoise is Israelonce you make that connection the rest of the analogy is pretty obvious
>>282077364>smokerjust a bench warmer while koby trained>tashigijust smoker's sidekick. replaced by helmeppo, koby's sidekick>dialsjust a gimmick he made up for skypeian schizotech and replaced by plants so he could make use of the ideas for a crew botanist by assigning those traits to usopp >chopperbecause after hearing the voice actress he couldn't see chopper as anything but a cutesy mascot now instead of a troubled young deer boy so he redesigned him to reflect that new cognition>franky's carpentrydon't need it when everyone is now capable of a 50 foot horizontal leap or otherwise straight up flying, and you have a boat made of nigh indestructible wood>creative power usersyou memory hole Whole Cake already?>Pyrobloin deposits under wanoyeah and they had a whole prison arc revolving around seastone collars>SamuraiOda loves samurai and robots. If you were expecting the main focus of the samurai kingdom to be stuff other than samurai, you have only yourself to blame.>Vegapunk will explain devil fruitsthe series ain't over yet. He'll explain them when Oda wants the audience to know the secret>
>>282077785Hey stop noticing. There is no way Oda is an anti semite.
>>282077785cease the anti-tenryuubite bigotry, chud.Mariejois has the right to preemptively invade Elbaf.
>>282077824no, oda is a luciferian freemasonit actually goes so much deeper
>>282077717Right wing fags literally do not know what they really stand for except for "Must Hate [x]" and will say anything and do anything for the sake of hatred. Ask them to define their favorite buzzwords and they'll freeze up or make up asinine bullshit while moving goalposts every single time. If a person had any real sense of literacy, logic, self-awareness, and/or ethics they would never swing that far right.
>>282077758https://desuarchive.org/a/search/filename/8648826beec9497537e6d842d0ff7a14.png/
>>282077826you're right anon, elbaf is a country that continues to produce incredibly violent pirates that cant be controlledeven a single pirate could destroy an entire nation! the tenryuubito created this world and as such deserve our continued and ongoing tributenow please tell me where i can find Saint Charloss my wife has to suck his cock
the spammer has once more shifted from algosharts to /pol/bait in response to copping a ban
>Alabasta is for the Alabastians>Elbaph is for the Giants>Fishman Island is for the Fishman>Japan is for the Japanese>Europe is for the Europeans>Africa is for the Africans>Celestial Dragons shouldn't control every aspect of the world and its economy>etc. etc. etc.Why do the above statements drive leftists insane?
>>282077845ironic because the left only speaks in buzzwords
>>282077879i really wish they would kill themsevles.
>>282077854
>>282077580>Now has he been good at showing this? Not really.Pretty much. Between what you mentioned, the fact that he claims to not be a CD dog yet still stuck around the WG after God Valley, and becoming upset that he kids he pawned off to criminals grew up to be criminals, he comes across as a prevaricating weasel with zero conception of cause and effect.
Shame that a cute deer girl only got to be an extra
Has Oda written anyone as remotely pathetic and up his ass as Charlie Kirk? I wish he did so it would shut this retarded /pol/fag right up
>>282077894you don't know what left or right means
>>282076057Does Oda actually believe in the power of dreams?Because it seems that One Piece is a story about special people being dragged back to their destiny no matter how they try to fight to.
>>282077988i think the real answer is alignment between your dreams, yourself as a person, and your circumstancesthats when the real magic happensa recurring theme with the past generation is they were "too early" or only had partially what they needed that's why inherited will is also such an important thing - that person's dream will come true, but that person may not be the one to fulfill it which creates a really bittersweet feelingAnyway, i think all the past generation greats, Rocks, Roger, Garp (yes even Garp) had the power and had the dream but the timing wasnt right
I will give Ulti headpats
>>282077998Religious nuts basically believe that they are better than everyone and thus they will get to be in God special clubhouse while the other, inferior people will go to hell. It not even religious, it just superior complex using religion as their cover,
>>282077974I do, you obviously don't.
>>282078018she deserves them
Only if you are ok with headbutts
Any chance of Wang Zhe having had the teleportation fruit before Van Augur?
>>282078058That's a pretty random guess so Idk, 10%?
>>282078058>Wang Zhewho?
Browns think Rayleigh will defeat Garling.Hope Garling keeps Shakky for many years after God valley and then throw her away
>>282078030See >>282077980
>>282078071The World's Strongest Rapist.
>>282078071Ochako. Whatever his name is?>>282078070Well is there a chance Van Augur only got his powers after the Rocky Port incident when Wang Zhe was defeated?And Wang Zhe was able to kidnap Shakky specifically because of his powers?
>>282077988I don't think Oda is ever going to validate someone's dream of ruling the world. I'd go as far as to argue that the whole reason the nika fruit chose Luffy is because it sensed that he was the rare kind of person who, when handed the keys to the kingdom on a silver platter, would say "no thanks, I'd rather have a sandwich" so to speak. Everyone else might have noble or ignoble goals but none of them would be able to resist the temptation to sit on the throne of the world and try to fix everything they see as being wrong with the world. Koby, Blackbeard, Kuzan, Shanks, all of them have the potential to just become the next Imu in the process of trying to realize their wildest dreams
>>282078092Ochuko is the one who kidnapped Shakky, retard. Wang Zhi did no such thing.
>>282078043Hnnnnnnnngghhhhh
>>282078118Nah I'm pretty sure it was Wang Zhi. Ochuku killed Don Marlon
>>282078118OK fine. Well, is there a chance Ochuku had the teleport fruit, which is why Van Augur now has it?
I was hoping to see Don Marlon at God Valley bros... why did Wang Zhi do it...
>>282078149pirates betray people, go figure
>>282078119Yamato is so FUARKing lucky.
>>282077988I don't think oda believes dreams are powerful on the individual level. Rather, he believes that dreams are a type of fate that transcends an individual lifetime. You might not live to see your dream come to fulfillment, but if you can pass the dream down to someone, eventuall that dream will come true
>>282078092If any Blackbeard Pirate has a fruit of a Rocks Pirate, I'd personally go for Vasco Shot having the the fruit of Captain John.
What Doflamingo father should have done to not end up like the way he did?
>>282076542Vegapunk already confirmed Imu/the original 20 kings weren't entirely evil.
>>282078189Garlingmaxx
>>282078189cut his hair and wear regular clothes so he wouldn't stand out, then move to another island with a new identity.
>>282078189if he'd taken the kids and fucked off from marijoa while they were still babies, doflamingo wouldn't have grown attached to the hyperprivileged lifestyle. that plus changing the family name would have prevented anyone finding out they were tenryubito's
Where the fuck is my nigga Gil Bastar?
Kaido is getting low diff next week
>>282078223IDK the government has ways of magically finding out info that would be unprovable. They had no way of verifying Ace was indeed Roger's son and they had no way of verifying baby Blackbeard was a Davy.
>>282078217>>282078223I doubt that the WG going to let it happen. I think they would just leak the info about his family wherever they go
>>282077364>build up your own expectations outside of reality >get mad when they don't happen This seems to be a recurring theme with the retards that hate One Piece.
THERAIDWILLFAIL>>282078237>>282078237>>282078237>>282078237>>282078237
>>282078238>they had no way of verifying Ace was indeed Roger's sonI'm pretty sure they can do DNA tests given they can straight up clone people
>>282078256>build up your own expectations outside of realitythis is such a lame fucking takethere were definitely some setups and characterizations that havent fully panned out or that have diminished in importance in the story as time has gone on people arent wrong for pointing that out and they arent wrong for liking the way the story has evolved over time
>>282077512With the world government, you could die or be a slave by the CDWithout the world government, you're definitely dead by pirates
the admiral Rocks killed was Admiral Buster Wolf, inventor of the Buster Call
>>282078314>Buster Wolfholy fuark... you mean rocks beat HIM?
>>282077658>I'll do it, under the condition that the triannual genocide tournament be abolished>No>Well I tried
so, any theories on how objects eat devil fruits? None of his inventions seemed to provide any mechanism for it, unless merely getting the fruit's juice on it transforms it or something
>>282077740Dragon fights for universal healthcare... He truly is the world's most dangerous man
>>282078346IDK man just stick it in the fruit? We've never seen devil fruits impaled to hold them up, have we? Do people eat these things with a fork?
>>282078407>On this day, Monkey D. Dragon received a bounty of 6 gorillion berries.
>>282078407That's fuckin hilarious
>>282078346my guess is if it has a hollow, then you seal a portion of the fruit inside the hollow, the fruit considers that good enough.
>>282078346the method has to be incredibly straightforward given that someone in wano accidentally created the teapot tanuki>clarke's law answer:human spit is the catalyst to activate the nanomachine swarm inside a devil fruit and begin remodeling whatever body they find themself inside. if you put a DF inside an object and then spit on it (or, say, pour in a glass of water you took a sip of that now has a bit of backwash in it) that triggers the process and they convert the object. >a wizard did it answerthe act of taking a bite of a DF functions as signing a contract with the devil inside the fruit. You just need to have some way for the object to 'bite' the fruit, and it will result in the object being contracted like it's a person. like say, putting the fruit inside a teapot with the intent to brew tea with it and accidentally ripping off a piece where it got caught in the lid
>>282078247>>282078238My memory is a bit fuzzy for those chapters, but weren't they hunted by regular citizens? What does the WG have to do with their demise after they left the CDs?
>>282078407...
So Dragon is just a bootleg Coby? What was Oda thinking with this?
Why is Toby mirroring Imu when he should be mirroring Akainu (Sword vs Marine)? Why is Sabo mirroring Akainu when he should be mirroring Imu (Revolutionaries vs World government)? Why is Sabo bigger than Dragon?
>>282078407>first mate to the pirate king? Oh well let's let him chill at his bar for years without investigating anything>unborn child to the pirate king? DESTROY IT NOW>Rocks invaded Marijois and got into the flower room and killed world nobles and an admiral? Ahh well, he's not so bad>Dragon CONVINCING A FEW BACKWATER ISLANDS TO TURN AGAINST US? WORST CRIMINAL IN HISTORY ADANONAOICNAIUNRAre the WG and Navy the most inconsistent groups in any fiction?
>>282078442Coby would be sobbing in the fetal position the entire time, he would not have time to notice what was happening, let alone save anyone.
>>282078435>human spitwell saturn was testing the method of devil fruit power transference on bonney without eating a devil fruit so that checks out
>>282078444it's not mirroring its corresponding, like this. These are...let's call it the quarterfinal matchups that will happen first, followed by the semifinal matchups, and then the final round of luffy vs the last man standing
>>282078359>Do people eat these things with a fork?kaku did.>>282078428what about funkfreed and smiley?>>282078435doesn't explain smiley
>>282078506This means Garling is croaking early
>>282078522>kaku didI'm assuming Oda didn't show us any forks with devil fruits for the simple reason that you can't just give an object an ability by shoving it in. It would have been one of the very first things to show as a gag in the series.Come to think of it, how do you "kill" an object with a devil fruit?
>>282078437The guy was declare a heretic by the other CD and the WG clearly doesn't want people to think that CD is the same as normal people. It's possible that the WG would leak info to the people knowing what they would do to a CD with no protection from the navy.
By 2030, Blackbeard's going to look so pale in the anime. Just look at what they're doing to Usopp.
>>282078407HOW DARE YOU, DRAGON-SAN?! This kind of thinking is exactly why anti-tenryuubite violence is on the rise around the world!
>>282078444So retards see this and still think Oda will let Rayleigh defeat Garling
>>282078539>how do you "kill" an object with a devil fruit?shinto animism rules apply, presumably. once an object has been broken to the point where it can't perform its function anymore, it loses the kami housed inside it and is considered dead.
Our HEROES!
>>282078535I'd guess he is itching to backstab Imu somehow and that will be his demise
so, this is presumably some more evidence that luffy will destroy mary geoise and fishman island, but what do you think the 8 "sun rays" are supposed to represent? were there sunken islands around fishman island or something?
>>282078506It's mirror >Shanks/Buggy - Red and blue. Apprentice of Pirate King >Blackbeard/Luffy - Black and White (chosen ones)>Akainu/Sabo - Magma and Fire (Killed his brother) >Aokiji/Dragon - Former Marine (apprentice of Garp and Son of Garp) >Garling/Shamrock - Father and Son >Coby/Imu - ???
>build a Time Machine>bring Oden from the past to Onigashima>Kaido pisses and jizzes his pants simultaneously
>>282078506So the lines are which matchups? Cuz they don't make sense to me
>>282078542that's a lot of assumptions. Merely not allowing them to return is all they need/want to do
Ten Ryuubi Toes
Isn’t killing Marines pretty evil? They’re mostly normal everyday guys that want to help people around the world. The WG agents are the legitimately evil cunts.
>>282078689the initial matchups. half will be defeated and then the winners will have a second round of matchups against each other, probably with interference from the surviving losers of the first round. this is where actual history will start being made.
>>282076305/thread
>>282078522>what about funkfreedpiece of fruit in the hilt>and smiley?Caesar made a hollow in the gel
>>282078723Not when they’re rounding up civilians for genocide and screaming at anyone who questions the orders to shut up and follow them.That said, the civilian who murdered Vice-Admiral T-Bone did it out of desperation for the bounty money, not out of malice.
>>282078723Said marines also want to capture and lock them up.You could say that it's self-defense on their parts though discussing morality is pointless because they are pirate after all. (except Luffy for obvious reasons)
>>282078671add it to the list
It's true that Bonney is joining the crew?
>>282078723Bitch if you are coming at me with a rifle I will gomu gomu no punch your head off. T-bone didn't deserve it and fodder are just following orders but it doesn't mean you should not defend yourself when it's warranted.
>>282078723Wehrmacht vs Gestapo
>>282078746Interesting which ones will win and which will lose you think?
>>282078784No, her story arc is over and she is just a child.
>>282078671the 8 allies that were inspired by Nika in the first era and came together to topple the king of the world
dragon was so lucky
Why is Shamrock a jobber?
>>282078677I think this is accurate for the most part
>>282078792Yes anon, the gods chosen celestial dragons are the GestapoPowerful and brave take
>>282078807
>>282078444Sabo makes sense
>>282076305>before this flashback is over.Not really, its possible to do heroic shit for villainous reasons. Rocks strikes me as a...>I wouldn't say freed, more like, under new management.type. He just never got to toppling the old regime to install his own before his crew's inevitable betrayals got him first.
>>282078806>its like she's looking at walking garbagem-mommy
>>282078787actually defending yourself and your people makes you a TERRORIST and an anti-tenryuubite.
>>282078807imu is a demogod's knights and CD's in general are the descendants of the families that helped imu win the war in the void century and take over the planetin exchange imu gives them power and lets them larp as gods and warriors (god's knights)but all they do is target women, children, and defenseless countries they've never had to fight anyone for real thats why they lose their shit when the real fighters roll up
Davy D Offscreen
>>282078852its Off D. Screen you illiterate buffoon
>>282078806>>282078834There will come a time when this croco-mom theory will finally die. And I will be happy.
>>282078847Who the fuck was declared a terrorist in One Piece?
>>282078506>>282078677Koby represents the "promising" future of the Marines and the WG that stand for justice. Imu represents the old and corrupt evils
>>282078888>theoryit’s a shitpost, autist
>>282078891Abdullah and Jeet
>>282078888cursed digitscrocomom theory is life
>>282078891Luffy and Sabo
>>282078778Even the Kuja Pirates thing is like a sun
>>282078898kek
>>282078888Crocodile isnt Tritoma but she is in fact originally a woman
>>282078896Originally an unironic theory
>>282078916Terrorists?! When?
>>282078928it was never a real theory
>>282078920It's true they bombed a government building
>>282077084Who would ever do that, just running around and proclaiming you're going to be king of something? I struggle to imagine such a fiend.
>>282078948No way, that makes it even better lolWhat chapter?
>>282078944its real to me goddammit
>>282078979It's Dressrosa around the 700s I don't fucking remember. It's when they are introducing the fighters at the colosseum
>>282079025you’re running out of material
>>282079012LMAOI just wish the word 'terrorists' was there, oh well.
>>282077556Thoroughly examining the all-over-the-place politics of One Piece would be a lengthy conversation that is impossible to have on this board with the number of reactionary retards on here. Thr only thing that is impossible to deny is that they're clearly anti-authoritarian. Every single establishment figure is either actively malicious or a useful idiot, and this includes Garp, whose most heroic action was directly defying orders to give Luffy a shot at saving Ace.
>>282076057I wouldn't call him good, just not a complete sociopath or psychopath.Rocks is a criminal, morally, but he isn't irredeemable.
>>282079050Just a reminder that the gay porn spammer posted literal CP a couple of months ago. Report him for breaking UD law
oda ruined roger
>>282078944It was what do you mean a real theory?
>>282079053>>282078948Reminds me of yuyu hakusho ending
>>282079124as in not a shitpost
>>282078801which ones?>alabasta>fishman island>zou>wano>elbafthat would leave 3 more.>>282078847ngl, koby is honestly the one marine I think is justified.>Has very valid reasons to distrust pirates>Still young enough to not realize just how shitty the WG is>Knows that luffy is too much of a dumbass to claim one piece>He's already handed in his resignation letter and is leeching off their payroll to stop teach
>>282079075Would
>>282079155It was a real theory not a shitpost then it became a meme
Daily reminder Ulti is catholic, she is not a heretic.
>>282079070>Garp, whose most heroic action was directly defying orders to give Luffy a shot at saving Ace.while i agree with your anti-authoritarian take i think even this view of garp is a little bit overly reductionist.i think oda does a good job of depicting a spectrum of how the marines deal with their participation in the system, from the lazy foot dragging of aokiji to the overly strict akainugarp is clearly "stuck". he got himself high enough in the ranks that he can act fairly self directed, low enough in the ranks that he isnt personally at the beck and call of the gorosei, but still high enough that he's aware of the hypocrisy. his answer is to focus on training the next generation, clearly in the hopes of a better future.
>>282079174it was always a shitpost, you were just too autistic to figure that out
Many Holy Knights/Celestial Dragons are being killed in God Valley.We know that Gaban defeats Sommers.There must be a reason why Imu (Gunko's body) is attacking.
So Vegapunk's broadcast begins today, how likely is it that we'll be looking at modern day Namek situation given the express stated timeframe in the manga and how many chapters it took to unfold?
>>282079217No
>>282078928no, it was always a shit post, Crocomom has always just been a joke answer to the question of who Luffy's mom is.Crocodile was probably a woman, and probably even fucked Dragon but that was just because he used to be a revolutionary when he was a woman.
>>282076057>>282077084I bet whatever we'll get on his flashback arc will have to do with the "One Piece", maybe what he'll to Roger was the whole motivation to go to that island
>>282079204Maybe the croco mom one but crocodile being a woman was a real theory
>>282079099Roger was only ever cool in his intro
>>282079236oda would go down as the biggest madlad in history if he made crocomom canon
>>282079236Yeah i meant crocodile being a woman not being luffy's mom that part is definitely unserious
>>282079205>There must be a reason why Imu (Gunko's body) is attacking.Sommers was in a embarrassing state when Imu took command of the situation, and Kilingham was in a seperate location and his powers were proving the most detrimental to the giants at the time, other than her seemingly being his handmaiden, she was the most viable option at that time.
>>282076542don flamingo is very obviously evil for the sake of being evil, not to mention his pedophile boogerboy best man who obviously raped law
>>282078937>Luffysince Enies Lobby, but the labeling became more obvious when it was reported he orchestrated the assassination attempt on Big Mom and kept Vegapunk hostage for ransom, just to kill him out of spite.>Sabowhen he “killed” Cobra, speedy.
>>282079160shandora is probably another oneand I'd bet whatever thriller bark was before it got abandoned, found by moriah, and turned into a boat since that arc puts so much emphasis on luffy as a sunbringerand at that point oda would probably make the third either ennies lobby or thriller bark just so luffy has already visited all of them
>>282078308Post proofs.
>>282077556this comment would get banned on reddit therefore proving it right
>>282079264Remember when crocodile saved luffy multiple times in Marineford after it was revealed who his dad was? #noticing
I think Ginny's husband isn't a Holy Knight. Garling killed Shanks's mom because he didn't need her.If Shamrock were like Garling, he would kill Ginny and Bonney.
>>282079264yeah it would be funny>>282079271I refer to them as femCroc and Crocomom for that reason, because they aren't the same theory.
>>282079282And the word terrorist was used to describe them?
>>282079099you’re a retard who fell for WG propaganda of Roger.every ex-Roger pirate who met Luffy kept reminiscing about how much the straw hat reminded them of their captain.
>>282079309I deluded myself into thinking Garling kidnapped Ginny, fell in love with her, and was shocked and upset that Saturn used her for science experiments, hence why she was let go to be able to go back to her hometown, where Kuma can find her. since then, Garling would harbor a secret but very deep grudge against Imu and the Elders while aiming to eventually overthrow them.that sucks, guess 100% evil Garling is the one we’re getting.
>>282077653netflix will netfix this since a nignog is directing it
>>282076305
>>282079307that is why the Crocomom theory has legs as a shitpost. all of it can be true without Crocodile being Luffy's mom.>was a woman>was a revolutionary>fucked Dragon
>>282076305While it's definitely a possibility I wouldn't be so certain about it. It's not like Roger and Garp need Rocks to be domi reversied or even to start a rampage on his own to fight him. They'd fight him on sight regardless.
>>282079366https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2023&version=NIVthe one where he says all worldly leaders of religion and state are hypocrites and you should never consider them an actual authority on anything except ways to violently kill and persecute people who disobey them, even when forbidden why the teachings they claim to uphold?
>>282079392the best shitposts have a kernel of truth to them
>>282079309He killed her to hide his children are half Davy
>>282079328luffy is not a pathetic simp who gets motivated to fight for pussy that doesn’t want him like roger
>>282079264Not really, Gege made crocomom real in JJK first.
>>282079433>why the teachings*by the teachings
Does Shamrock know that his mother is a "dirty" insect?
>>282079278>pedophile boogerboy best man who obviously raped lawNobody thinks this
>>282078917I have a theory Pirate empress are thought to read ancient langauge
>>282079278 #>pedophile boogerboy best man who obviously raped LawEveryone thinks this
>>282079328Every ex roger pirate are retard because Luffy isn't a pathetic loser like Roger.They should have seen Roger in Sanji
>>282079383>hence why she was let go to be able to go back to her hometown,Lmao anon if that were true and he cared he would have abyssed her or sent a CD ship straight to her hometown. He wouldn't have allowed a sick young mother to cross the grand line back to south blue on a crappy fishing boat.
Who breastfed baby Shamrock?
>>282079499All rape doujins of shota Law are about Doflamingo, Trebol never appears.
>>282079537Garling of course
>>282079469I can't tell and it's making me crazy. I kinda want him not to know so he can be crushed by the news but then again if he knew since birth that could warp his character even more
>>282079449Why on earth would he do that? Does he want to overthrow Imu?
>>282079611no, don't be silly
please care about usopp
>>282077556Left and right have different ideas on freedom. You just don't know what freedom means for the left hence your retarded take.
>>282079588He's definitely indoctrinated. I dont think he'd care about his weakling of a mom. Shamrock is Garling Jr. Though he can still hate his pops but for completely different and selfish reasons.
>>282079505do you hate women?
I am not sexually attracted to Stussy.
>>282079099Shakky ruined one piece
>>2820794521. JJK didn't have nearly the length of sustained cultural impact one piece has2. JJK ended horribly so its long term staying power is diminished (we'll see if there's a revival with its new series)3. Kenjaku backshots was pretty fun, but nowhere near how many heads would explode with Crocomom
>>282079661We know, Newgate.
>>282079661that's none of my business
>>282079651While I can see it I also can't believe a guy who based his sentiment of innate superiority upon a pure bloodline wouldn't be shaken by the news he's half insect.I also don't believe Garling treated him well knowing this.
>>282079661this but shakky
>>282079677>yes he did it first but JJK does not matterFair but that's still a lot of words to deny Gege did it first.
If i were warden of Impel Down i'd also get enjoyment from killing the occasional pirate in my downtime. Its not that big a deal
I am sexually attracted to Koby.
>>282079651We know that Shamrock visited Harald's grave and that he had contact with Shanks.Perhaps Harald was a father figure to Shamrock.
>>282076542Yes, there are actually evil people such as Doffy in this manga. Imu and the CDs will be the same as Oda will portray them to be completely irredeemable bastards.
>>282079638You dont even care about him enough to visit him, Yasopp. Why would we?
>>282079722We know Helmeppo
>>282079703Maybe Shanks told his brother that his mother is an commoner
>>282079720im not denying it tho...i said:>oda would go down as the biggest madlad in history if he made crocomom canonyou brought up gegebut nothing in what i said had anything to do with who did what first when Kenjaku backshots was funny and made the rounds on social mediabut crocomom has been so controversial for so long it would make more heads explode than JJK
>>282079728>doffy >actually evilLow IQ post.
>>282077204Why not? We have yet to see most of everything from Imu whereas we have seen nearly everything from BB's character. Why do you doubt Oda's ability in this?
>>282079722We know BlackBeard
>>282079747>but crocomom has been so controversial for so long it would make more heads explode than JJKI think it would have a huge reaction but not as much as Ginny's rape because we've been shitposting about it since Impel Down
>>282079797yeah but the crocomom haters salty tears would be so much tastier
>>282079740Did Shanks know before he met Garling though? I don't see how he would. But then again I have no idea how Loki knew about Garling killing his mother. Unless it's just the narrator who knows? Hard to tell right now.
>>282079469Does Charloss?
>>282079142Prepping themselves for Sanji and Luffy.
>>282077239Nope. That's just retarded.
>>282079761Because BB as a character has been built up for decades. Having a known entity (with some unkown elements), in BB, be the main antagonist, works way better than a last minute big bad who was secretly controlling everything.
>>282079858you're retarded for not seeing it the second luffy's fruit got retconned it became obvious what was going to happen
>>282079758>t. didn't read the Doflamingo/Corazon flashback properlyKek its pretty obvious that Oda has portrayed Doffy to be evil from the start unlike his brother who still managed to grow to become a good person.
It’s not inherently bad to be an NPC for the WG when you think about it
I don't the hero worship of Rocks. I mean, he's not a bad guy. Sure. But he hasn't actually, like... done anything. We're given a laundry list of crimes he's committed but no context for how any of those crimes helped or hurt anyone. The only concrete action we've seen him take is to rob an allegedly fraudulant charity. Which, again-- not evil, but also not useful or helpful.I feel like 80% of fandom is currently lined up to suck his cock because they just, like, vibe with his aura or something. It's weird.
>>282079805True, some people used to be so anal that the theory is treated seriously. Of course it would have been better if Oda had confirmed it during the heights of the theory's popularity but the metldown would still be great. Not to mention all the casuals who have never heard of the theory would be brought to the internet by the news to share their meltdown (or support) about their favourite childhood villain.
>>282077658If Roger wasn't there he would have let the tourney happen like every other year so no
>>282079870How is Imu last minute though? He has been in the manga for more than half a decade at this point. And that argument of "BB being introduced early" is really not that meaningful considering that the WG has been built up as main villains the entire series. I mean just look at this fucking flashback. Not even Rocks was portrayed to be as evil or menacing as Garling. Imu's existence has also been hinted as years before his introduction (see Dressrosa and Skypeia) and we have yet to see his full backstory or motivations. So, no, you saying BB works better just because of that is not a good argument.
>>282079721It's illegal to kill prisoners without the Wardens permissionIf Shiryu did end up killing all the Level 6 prisoners The raid would have failed and Luffy, Teach and Buggy would have died there instead of becoming Emperors. The WG would be down to 3 Yonko who would continue to stalemate each other and no one would ever reach Laugh Tale, There'd be a couple dozen less revolutionaries running around as well
>>282077150Blackbeard and Luffy will team up against Imu. Then Blackbeard and Luffy will fight each other. Luffy will realize cherry pies aren't so bad and they open the One Piece together.
>>282079915>SkypeiaYeah and the sun god was a giant snake
>>282079926>anon thinks Luffy would ever fucking work with Blackbeard of all peopleKEKAROO
Giants are THE jobber race>Hajrudin gets 1 shot by Luffy, when Caesar Clown and Hody Jones at least took multiple punches>Even after, Hajrudin can BARELY beat Machvise who has like a 11 million bounty>Oars Jr gets the shit kicked out of him by the Warlords and can't dodge shit>Oars the first literally dies from wearing only a loincloth in the cold. Fucking Hannyabal can do that.>Dory and Brogy both get KEIKAKU'D by Mr. 3 and can't even break his wax>Oimo and Kashii get beat by 2 big sea animals and rando carpenters>Saul gets insta-beat by Aokiji>Wolf gets insta-beat by Garp>Jorul has ancient giant blood (he's as big as Jarul who is 2x a regular giant in size) and is an experienced warrior, he gets 1 shot by a 5 year old Big Mom. And before you say "oh he's an old man", Whitebeard and Garp are both old men too and are insanely powerful>John Giant and Lonz both get beaten in 1 hit by Whitebeard and don't even land a single attack on him. Meanwhile a bunch of other rando Marines were able to wound WhitebeardLoki and Harald are like the only fucking giants that haven't jobbed yet
After witnessing a million jobbings, it is refreshing to see a new character who gets shit done for once. Knowing Oda however he will pull something out of his ass to make Rocks look like an idiot and Roger look like a hero.
>>282079919It's fucking retarded that the WG had to send assassins after Doflamingo in Impel Down instead of just ordering a proper execution. Stuff his mouth with a seastone gag if they must.
>>282079797>>282079805>>282079894What is totally fucked is i bet Oda gets these letters all the time but refuses to address it in an SBS
>>282079956>make Rocks look like an idiot and Roger look like a heroThat is what will happen.
>>282079881>it's pretty obviousFor retards maybe. Honestly I should make a collage of all panels where Doflamingo demonstrates some morals but for now I'll just give you picrel. Try and make Doffy out to be evil in this scenario. What would Saturn have done in his stead? What do you think?Honestly back when Dressrosa was being released I was appaled but not to surprised people used to think this. But now that we have seen people of the caliber of Sommers, Saturn, or Garling I'm amazed people still believe Oda was speaking through Corazon's mouth. Truly low IQ.
>>282079956and what if Oda doesn’t do any of that? will you issue an apology letter, or will you silently hate-read until the next segment of hype moments and aura?
>>282079962that means every day is a possibility he makes the funniest chapter
>>282079956What shit has gotten done??? Rocks has done nothing.
>>282079884Sengoku ended up being the most successful out of everyone from Roger's era.
>>282079981Oda ruined so many characters out of the wazoo. What makes you think Rocks would be any different?
>>282079889most people don't actually give a shit about feats and only care about vibes and interpersonal relationshipsit's not like you choose to like a character either, no more than you choose to like anything in matters of taste
>>282079962Oh for sure. Why else would there be a Crocodile looking woman in the live action otherwise.Regardless of whether it's true or not, he's playing with it and he loves it.
>>282079996>most people don't actually give a shit about feats and only care about vibes and interpersonal relationshipshow true is this for most of /opg/?
>>282079923
>>282078671Oda redrew this? I liked the pencils.
so how likely is Wang Zhi the father of Caribou and Coribou?
>>282079915Your argument is that because we knew the WG would be the main antagonist faction; introducing the ruler of said faction 21 years into the manga, then giving them 0 development for the next 7 years and for the foreseeable future, and then expecting that character to have the same character and therefore story depth as BB? lol
If I were Oda I’d give Crocodile a scandalous double life. Used Ivankov to make him a man, romanced Tritoma who birthed Hancock. Became a women again and gave Dragon Luffy
>>282079997>Regardless of whether it's true or not, he's playing with it and he loves it.this
>>282079956Canonically, advanced CoC users are weak to their sons being taken hostage
>>282079997I think you're mixing two things up. Crocodile being a woman is something people actually consider seriously and most people thought of it themselves without even needing to read online stuff because it's kinda the first thing that comes to mind with Ivankov. Crocomom is the step-further that's considered shitpost-tier.
>>282079990assembling the crew he did is a greater feat than most other top tiers already, let's not even mention the assassinating a navy admiral and infiltrating Imu's lair by himself
>>282080020Kek you just want Luhan to be incest.Meltdown to the power of two
>>282080038its a package deal, anon...
>we finally get slopfag to be decent and adopt uniform filename so that we can filter him>some retard starts reposting his shit without the uniform filename
>>282080026do you think Viola misses Doffy's cock?
>>282080038Not really, it's the simplest explanation as to why Crocodile repeatedly saved Luffy and was "in a terrible mood" after learning Luffy's lineage along with everyone on Marineford.
>>282080016>same character and story depth as BB?Imu's narrative importance is already obvious. He is the nigga behind all the bad shit going on in the world. Hell he is the reason the one piece world's geography is so fucked up in the first place. So, Oda doesn't need to delve too much into that.Your point was "character depth" which I assume is the quality of the character's writing. Yeah no shit Oda has tons of things planned for Imu. Do you really think he doesn't? Kek. Just because we haven't gotten to Imu's character yet doesn't mean it won't be compelling. Its the same fucking reason why Oda has yet to show much of the character of Dragon, Mihawk, Garling, Shamrock and so on until the fucking endgame.>for the foreseeable futureImu is literally in Elbaph right now. We are still fresh off of Egghead and there is still years left until the final saga is over. Why the fuck do you think it is impossible for Oda to not flesh out Imu's character during that time? (especially when we know that Gunko is going to get development this arc too and she has an important connection to Imu being his handmaiden)
>>282080063Luffy's is bigger
>>282080067 Retarded theoryIvankov didn't knew Luffy and that Dragon has a child.
>>282080067Could just be that Crocodile was a scorned lover of Dragon’s and lost the dragonbowl to Tritoma who birthed the first Male Amazonian of legend that will be the prophecy of Nika’s return
>>282080009I bought fifty euros worth of food for my cat yesterday and that's what it felt like.
>>282080038>most people thought of it themselvesMy first thought was Crocodile dated/fucked Ivankov without knowing that he's an okama
>>282080012Buggy is son of Shakky and Wang Zhi
>>282080075the problem with the imu argument, from a narrative perspective, is that luffy has NEVER cared about the larger goings on in the world. yes to us the readers, and to the people in the story, the battle of good vs evil, freedom vs oppression, the celestial dragons vs the lost kingdom, is something that has been going on for hundreds if not a thousand yearsluffy doesnt care oda has done a pretty good job so far of telling two stories at the same time - luffy's story of action and adventure to become a pirate, and the story of the larger freedom vs oppressionluffy vs imu works in one story - the thousand year battle between freedom and oppression. but isnt as strong in the other story - the action and adventure storyluffy vs blackbeard satisfies both, as blackbeards vision of piracy is "freedom" but in a warped sense... freedom for himself and the "strong", but at the expense of others.my bet is blackbeard defeats imu and usurps the throne, then its luffy vs blackbeard in the final battle
>>282080078But Luffy one belongs to Nami only
>>282080055Crocogurl bros have bad reputation because of people like you.>>282080067Actually the simplest reputation is him seeing a younger himself in Luffy and starting to root for him, which ties back to their original meeting (talking about rookies who talk big but are unprepared to face the real world, which in the conext of Impel Down revealations was clear talking about himself). Heck, Croc could also have been just a memeber of Revos at some point and although he abandoned them, retained respect for Dragon and did him a favor. Both theories are simpler than Crocomom.
>>282080082? Why on earth would he know him? Even if he helped deliver Luffy (veeeery unlikely) it's not like he would recognize a baby he saw 18 years ago. And I see no reason why Crocodile would tell him who the father is or even that he had a child.
Garling is final villain of one piece
>>282080108Make it cooler, Imu body hops to Blackbeard. Blackbeard controlled by Imu, Luffy already fights with Nika
>>282080012Yes.
>>282080094Buggy is the other son of Rocks, you fool.
>>282080133>Let me ignore every logic for my troon theory Kill yourself tranny
>>282080127That makes no sense though, if it were that Ivan would know and he wouldn't be surprised by his actions.
>>282080127>Crocogurl bros have bad reputation because of people like you.or maybe you take the stick out of your ass and have some goddamn fun >>282080136nah that wouldnt be cool at allblackbeard has been one step ahead this whole time because he is "metagaming" the run to being the pirate king. he probably already knows about imu, knows rocks couldnt beat imu at the time, and has a plan to win.Blackbeard will usurp imu, take imu's power, and become the new "god of darkness" and "king of the world"
>>282080108Luffy doesn't give a shit about most of the villains he fought in this story either kek. Why do you people assume that Imu needs to always be on Luffy's mind in order for him to be the final antagonist? That was never a fucking requirement in any big shonen manga. Neither was it ever required for the final antagonist to be shown early on in the story (look at fucking Ywach). Luffy is going to meet Imu this arc and this will obviously not be their final confrontation. Imu is going to threaten every single one of Luffy's friends in the entire world as well as Vivi (who is a Strawhat herself pretty much). By the time Luffy learns about the truth of the void century, he will already be very fucking mad at Imu for hurting his loved ones (it doesn't matter if he gives a shit about the 1000+ long war or not, that's irrelevant).
>>282080151>no answerI'm not the one who abandonned logic first kek
>>282080161>or maybe you take the stick out of your ass and have some goddamn funI'm not against shitposting, it's okay, and that's what Crocomom used to be. But now there's a lot of people who started believing in it for realz.
Davey Jones had the Yami DF that's why Blackbeard wanted it so badly. And that's why when Thatch found it he Blackbeard knew he was chosen him to fulfill Davey Jones will. No wonder Blackbeard believes in fate so much guy survived God Valley and the Yami chose him. Pretty clear the 2 DF Rocks wanted we're the Yami for himself and the Nika DF for Harald. Imu will also show up.on God Valley through Gunko to finally kill Rocks. But Davey Jones who's lurking inside Teach will absorb Rocks soul.
>>282080135I certainly hope so because he's the most alluring and charismatic out of all endgame tier villains we got. The fact that he's more recent and therefore more mysterious than both BB and Imu who have been there for a long time lends itself to that theory well too.
>>282078806If Ivankov gets subjected to seastone would he turn back to a girl
>>282078470remember sabaody archipelago very close to mary geoise and often visited by celestial dragons for buying slaves. and full scale battle there could destroy the archipellago and shockwaves could effect mary geoise. not to mention a full scale hunt for him could be seen by literally anyone with eyes and evaded
>>282080169>Luffy doesn't give a shit about most of the villains he fought in this story either kekyes that's my point. great job kiddo.>Why do you peoplewhat do you mean "you people"?>assume that Imu needs to always be on Luffy's mind in order for him to be the final antagonist?because it's about choosing the narratively stronger option >Option A: Guy who was introduced as the foil to luffy and polar opposite to him, rival to being the pirate king, and killed his brother>Option B: A shadow that was just introducedhmmmmm> Imu is going to threaten every single one of Luffy's friends in the entire world as well as Vivi (who is a Strawhat herself pretty much)Yeah I'm pretty sure Vivi is going to get captured at some point and Luffy will have to make a choice between making a final run at the One Piece or turning around and saving his friends.Of course, we know what he'll choose.>it doesn't matter if he gives a shit about the 1000+ long war or not, that's irrelevantalso my point
>>282080189Why would the Nika fruit be best used by a Giant? And how the fuck is Davy Jones "inside" Teach in the first place?
>>282080176Yeah I do, and I love that it irks you.
>>282080189The Yami Yami no mi being another Mythical Zoan Creepy Sea Boogeyman will make me question Odas writing
>>282080127>Croc could also have been just a memeber of Revos at some point and although he abandoned them, retained respect for Dragon and did him a favor.this is my actual theory, he still was a woman btw.>>282080092hope your kitty enjoys their meals.
>>282080220as soon as luffy's fruit got retconned into being the sun god fruit the fate of the Yami Yami no Mi was sealed
>Jinbe calling Who’s Who a racist for saying “I’m surprised a fishman can move so fast on land”What a little bitch. What’s next? Getting offended at somebody pointing out that fishmen have webbed fingers and toes?
>>282080232Finned, fin web and toes you fucking racist
>if only I had arrived sooner... maybe the triannual native genocide tournament wouldn't have been canceled
>>282080234page one is such a homo
>>282080232ahem
>>282080251I got it 4chan
>>282080220Foreshadowed by it not having the typical logia properties btw
>>282080007ah, yes, i remember viola having three breasts. and what even is that claw on the other tit?
>>282080256#NOTALLFISHMEN
Smoker's fruit is the worst logia right
>>282080208>what do you mean "you people"? I've seen many people prop up say this shit, not just you.>Yeah I'm pretty sure Vivi is going to get captured at some point and...Yes, absolutely, and that will obviously happen after the laugh tale arc as the final war begins with the discovery of the one piece and Luffy being crowned pirate king.>Option B: A shadow that was just introducedKek now you're being ridiculous. Imu obviously has parallels with Luffy as well. Blackbeard and Luffy are character foils to each other but not opposites. But Imu and Luffy are total thematic opposites to each other as well. And that's not mentioning how their powers are the opposite to each other as well (Imu is literally the fucking devil and Luffy is Jesus basically kek). So saying Imu is just a "shadow that was just introduced" is completely retarded downplay of his character (also he has been in the story for a long time now so he wasn't "just introduced").Just because Luffy has a personal beef against BB doesn't make him necessarily make him narratively stronger. You can apply that same logic to fucking Akainu but we all know he isn't worth shit kek (now that I think about it, doesn't Luffy give MORE of a shit towards Akainu rather than Teach?). You're also ignoring the thematic parallels between Imu and Luffy as well as their hero/villain relationship which is only just beginning this arc and will only develop as the final saga goes on.
>>282080256Excuse me, that’s a Molluskman
>>282080232>you people are a slave race right, tell me about the slave god Nika>you move quick for a figger>wtf why so offended
All those words... no asses posted.Oda-先生 would be so disappointed by this schizo thread. He loves pussy and girls. Kys homos
>>282080216>I like my theory... because it's dumb and no one likes it!I guess you do you, anon...
>>282080297If it's so dumb how come you smarter people never managed to bring evidence it's impossible?
>>282076057ReminderWhile Garp was on vacation with bitch and whore, his son got drafted into genocide festival
>troons in oda's mind
>>282080315trannies in Oda's mind are based beyond belief?
>>282080315>courageous, high minded, visionary individuals who are extremely loyal to their friends and based if a bit overbearing Oh yeah, what an awful depiction
>>282080294I want to tongue stussy's asshole
>>282080328You could become a billionaire today with this ability in our society
>>282080328Fuck wish it was me. I'd be such a slut
>>282080344...said absolutely nobody.
>>282080284>Yes, absolutely, and that will obviously happen after the laugh tale arc as the final war begins with the discovery of the one piece and Luffy being crowned pirate kingnaaaaaaaaaaah that's weakluffy being "crowned" pirate king is likely never going to happen literally, and if it does would be the very last thing my money is on blackbeard getting there first. he's been ahead of luffy this whole time. luffy is going to come up from behind.>Kek now you're being ridiculous. Imu obviously has parallels with Luffy as wellNo I'm being serious and you trying to play it off isn't really working.Imu is from the "old" generation. If we track the history of this war through the generations - >Some "pre-history" conflicts depicted in the mural involving Nika (Sun God), the God of the Earth, etc >Joyboy, Davy Jones, Imu (probably reincarnating through the generation by possessing Lili)>Roger, Rocks, Imu (again reincarnating)>Luffy, Blackbeard, Imu (again reincarnating)Luffy's final fight, the antagonist of Luffy's journey towards the pirate king, would be most narratively strong against a contemporary. Imu is a holdover from the past conflicts.>But Imu and Luffy are total thematic opposites to each other as wellThis is my point though - they ARE opposites, and that works on one narrative level (the thousand year war of freedom vs oppression)But Imu doesn't satisfy BOTH narrative requirements (the action adventure pirate story)Blackbeard does>So saying Imu is just a "shadow that was just introduced" is completely retarded downplay of his character (also he has been in the story for a long time now so he wasn't "just introduced"Yeah I memed a little bit but let's be honest relative to blackbeard Imu was definitely "just introduced">Just because Luffy has a personal beef against BB doesn't make him necessarily make him narratively stronger.Personal stakes by definition make stronger narratives.(1/2)
>>282080312Garp: The next child I’ll raise to focused on power and ability alone and skip the morals stuff.That clearly didn’t work out for Dragon.
>>282080284(2/2)>You can apply that same logic to fucking AkainuYes you can and we'll probably cross that bridge at some point too.>You're also ignoring the thematic parallels between Imu and Luffy as well as their hero/villain relationshipI'm literally not how many times have I fucking said that Luffy vs Imu represents the thousand year war between freedom and oppression?My whole original point is that Oda is telling two parallel stories at the same time and weaving them together.Luffy vs Imu is one story, and does work.Luffy vs Blackbeard is stronger because it tells the same story as Luffy vs Imu (freedom vs oppression), while ALSO tying in personal stakes in the pirate adventure story of the race to be King of the Piratesalso adding kek to everything to try and downplay stuff doesnt make you cool kek
Shamrock is going to jump ahead of Blackbeard as Luffy’s final adversary once he kills Shanks lmao
>>282080421Shamrock is Snape to Shanks's Dumbledore.
>>282080372also before some sperg points it out it's probably not "reincarnation" per se i just used that as a term to indicate that Imu the same entity is appearing in each generation while the other respective forces (Nika/Joyboy/Roger/Luffy, and whatever Davy Jones is going to wind up representing) cycle through other peopleImu is probably immortal or a straight up demon to some degree and probably possesses people to stay rooted to the mortal plane or something
>>282080421>>282080433I would love this I can't lie. Much better than BB or Imu.
>>282080433>its implied that Luffy will have to surpass shanks to become Pirate KingWhat’s more fitting than Shanks genetic double
>>282080372>luffy being "crowned" pirate king is likely never...Becoming the pirate king is just a stepping stone to Luffy's true dream. And we already know laugh tale won't be the final arc for many reasons anyways. So Luffy becoming the pirate king before the final war is not that crazy in the slightest. >my money is on blackbeard getting there firstFuck no. There is no way Oda will make anyone except for Luffy (okay maybe Buggy, fine) reach Laugh Tale first. Besides Teach doesn't even have all 4 road poneglyphs and its unlikely that he'll be the first to encounter the Man with the Burned Scar. >>282080401>I'm literally not how many times...Alright, fair enough anon. Perhaps I was being too hostile towards your points so I concede on that front. Still,>pirate adventure story of the race to be King of the Pirates>anon still thinks one piece was ever a pirate storyVery funny.>also adding kek to everything...Its an unfortunate habit of mine. maybe I should fix it by leaving this place...
>>282080366Hi, I'm absolutely nobody.
>Go to reddit>I get shit on for defending the marines>Go to tiktok>I get shit on for defending the marines>Go to 4chan>I get shit on for defending the marineswhy everyone hates us
Could Garp do this to Zoro?
Where were you when you realized that GODrudin, the future King of Elbaph, will surpass Loki and become Admiral level by the end of this arc?
Loving the fact that Dragon is there at God Valley, experiencing his moral crisis. Hope he has a role to play. Not necessarily like a crazy fighting feat, just a right place, right time, right decision type of deal.
>>282080479Marinefags brought it onto themselves with consolewarfaggotry that is admiralfags vs yonkofags. >telling retards to stop being retards>they keep being retards>No longer sanction retards tomfoolery
>>282080485nice skirt, jobrudin
>>282080485Loki will be the King of Elbaf, Hajrudin will be the King of Giants. Kinda like Shogun and Daimyo in Wano.
>>282080484yes
>>282080496how do you think that shanks was able to be picked up by roger's crew?
>>282080443I would have prefered Shanks himself I can't lie. I love that Shamrock exists but it's also a clear sign Luffy is never gonna fight Shanks despite all the set up there is for it.
>>282080496He's now going to try to save Shanks and Shamrock, though he'll fail with the latter.
>>282080328I get it's magic in the end, but his beard should fall out instead of regressing since it was "hormones" that changed his body
>>282080485Loki will be King of Elbaf and NOT JOINING. Hajrudin will support Luffy out at sea as Grand Fleet Captain and take part in the Final War.
>Fuck...this blonde fat-ass is...t-too much for me...!!>FATHER! BROTHER! LEND ME SOME ACoC, THIS IS BASE MACHVISE I'M UP AGAINST!
>>282080509Yeah I'm curious how that happened. Was it a mistake, a last minute clutch, a miracle, a failed negociation? I wonder if Dragon still beats himself up over it.
>>282080328>Wha... What did you do to me?>I took away your testosterone. You can't use it to hurt or threaten anyone else ever again.
>>282080533Loki please, stop bullying your big brother.
>>282080479Chadmirals don't need popular support. We are the rightful rulers of these threads. It's simply irrefutable.
>>282080533He had a 111M bounty, that isn't anything to sneeze at
How strong would Loki have been if he was breastfed by Estridd?
>>282080479You are just on the wrong side of the history.
>>282080539I doubt a 17 y/o Dragon can do anything against the likes of Garling. It might have been that he managed to get to the center of the island, put one baby in a chest so no one sees them, but by the time he was trying to put the other one in another chest, Garling appeared.
>>282080555Hajruding, you're drunk and seeing double, it was 11M...
>>282080565>a 17 y/o Dragon can do anything against the likes of GarlingAnon...he is Luffy's father. Don't be surprised if Oda makes him really fucking strong at that age like maybe he was already Kaido level.
>>282080565>>282080584Baby Loki was falling from sky island like adult Kaido and kid Linlin soloed the giants. Oda doesn't give a fuck about age
>>282080584I get that people are starving for Dragon feats but this isn't the place for it to happen. A 17 year old amongst all the top tiers of the era. Show his strength of character and moral resolve instead.
>Dragon was called the "World's Worst Criminal" for a reason yet to be revealedWait...bros, what if it was because he "stole" baby Shanks from his father somehow? I know this sounds retarded but maybe Garling was really pissed off at him for doing it.
>>282080555>111mYou could earn this much post wano by farting on a portrait of a celestial dragon
>>282080584>Don't be surprised if Oda makes him really fucking strong at that age like maybe he was already Kaido level.It's insane how delusional dragonfags are, he was already wounded in the last panel, prob almost jobbed to a random civilian
Has the giants legitimized Mother Caramel as a saint yet
>>282080479AMAB except Koby
>>282080584Luffy's generation is an exception, all the other top tiers only really got great middle-aged. And with how power-upping works, a rookie could never be strong if only because of the "haki blooms in adversity", and Dragon would simply not have any opportunity to truly grow beforehand.
>>282080220How are you NOT questioning any of his writing post TS?
>>282080612That would actually make sense yeah.
>>282080675There are shittier Mangakas out there
it's so crappy Oda wants to establish token white guy Sanji as the third strongest of the crew, so cool characters like Yamato or Loki can never join.
>>282080685But he's 4th strongest.
>>282080685sanji is franco-german
>>2820806931uffy2oroJinb3S4njiIt just fits.
>>282080693sanjeets our response?
>>282080699I never saw him wear socks in his sandals though, I call bullshit.
>>282080685>YamatoIs not cool.>LokiBut he will join? Unfortunately will get nerfed like Jinbro but that's whatever
>>282076057AND HIS MOST LOYAL MANWANG ZHIWHOSE SON CARIBOU WILL BE MOST LOYAL TO BLACKBEARDHUZZAH!
>>282080684Sure but that doesnt excuse his shit. That's whataboutism tard kun
>>282080652AMAB especially Koby.
>>282080685They're free to join, Sanji will just instantly powercreep them like he did to Jimbei and Franky
>>282080699Sanji is polish.
>>282080706pls no bully
Which of these characters look/will look the ugliest?>Wang Zhi>Kaido>Orochi>Wadatsumi>Trebol>Imu
>>282080693>>282080705
>>282080728>always listens to womenYeah, I think so.
All i know is Vinsmoke Romeo wipes the floor with Ryuma. Wouldn't be too far fetched to see their descendants with the same fate and power levels. And Gaban was always 2nd strongest.
>>282080741>Vinsmoke Romeo>RyumaNeither were confirmed to be from the void century nor have anything to do with Joyboy. We don't even know if they were from the same era either.
>>282080738Why'd she say that?
This Celestial Dragon comes from the Shepherd family.Will we see an ugly Figarland? Garling's younger brother or cousin?
>>282080725It's fine it's not like he can actually achieve that anyways.
>>282080772Blackbeard, stop posting your fapfolder.
>>282080722So what you malding bitch. There are worse offenders in the industry and they don’t have the hellscape overclocked burnout tenure like Oda and people still consume such slop. I’m okay with one piece my dude, you can seethe though
>>282080176You are almost 40 years old
>>282080685>>282080726Remember when Robin used to be a 'high' tier?
>>282076305Worst i can think of is Imu finding a way to Reverse Domini him. But in this case Xebec would still be a good guy mindcontrolled
>>282080769>copypasting posts from previous threads
>>282080778No, you will look at it and you will like it
>>282080802Ignore CDfag, he does it every thread and he's been at it for months. It's always something about CDs, CDs wife, CDs children, CDs slaves...
>>282080800I doubt Imu can do that to Rocks. Oda will probably find a different way to paint Rocks was the bad guy.
>>282080799
>>282080612>for a reason yet to be revealedare you dense? He's a revolutionary. He's actively trying to topple the world government
>>282080809is this after the top surgery or does he have his tits strapped?
>>282080652>assigned male at birth except kobykoby was born a girl and then changed into a boy?
>>282080846kys kys kys kys
>>282080706jinbe already peaked, sanji will surpass him. Probably already did on Wano
>>282080853yes
>>282080780>n-n-NOOOOOO you're not allowed to criticize my favorite author's questionable retcons and writing decisions because he's s-s-super burnt out and stuff>uhhhh o-other mangaka aren't as burnt out as my GODA yet they still churn out way worse shit!!!>s-seethe!!!Looks to me you're the only one here seething, tard buddy kun.
>>282080799She was always in this weird tier where everybody trusts her to take care of herself but nobody actually considers her to be a major fighter of the crew and she doesn't get big fights. You could argue it's because fighting is not her main trade but neither is fighting Sanji's. You could also argue it's because her power is too gimmicky and therefore it's either a one shot or an instant loss (which was proven wrong in Wano btw). Really I think it's just because she's a woman and Oda cares more about glazing Sanji and Luffy.
>>282080816I'm still mad they didn't keep that dog as their pet
>>282080868That happend already in Wano when Sanji took out Queen. Jinbei is the same as Franky and Robin where they become useless upon joining
>>282080886That would be you thoughbeit replyingAIDAkun
>>282080496He'll be like Koby at Marineford but not a bootlicker.
>>282080856sorry but the live action is canon, Koby is FTM
>>282080886>i read 1200 chapters of the manga I hatestop shitposting
>>282080816>6 Billion Beri JACKPOT!
>>282080799Nami is currently stronger than her btw
>>282080853>assigned male at birth Kek I didn't even notice while typing itBut yes, sure, why not
>>282080934Only in offensive power. My waifu Robin still is better when you factor in DEF, HP, and Speed
>>282080559Weaker because he didn't go through enough pain.
>>282080954she's not your waifu
>>282080908>the actor is the characterimagine being this retarded. I hate trannies and fake "they/thems" too, but your complains should at least make sense
>>282080909Criticism and having legitimate questions about how the series has developed isnt hating, tardbro. You'd have to be criminally underage to not understand something this basic
>>282080973He just wants to shitpost and create fake outrage over trans people, don't take him too seriously.
>>282080734Weevil > Orochi > Raizo > Trebol > Vasco > Moria > Big Mom > Wang Zhi > KaidoIf we're talking ugliest fuckers
>>282080973>wasting your hate on frivolous things instead of saving it for what matters, like a guy coming at you with a gun
>>282080998There are trannies that come at you with a gun though. There are plenty in OP too
>>282080990shut you mouth you retard, you didn't even said anything valid, saying>x badwont' make you look like a super smart star critic, kill yourself
>>282080934Stolen valor from BM.
>>282080799She's more of an assassin than a fighter
>>282080816>robin's waist
>>282081122It's sexy?
>>282081122perfect to hold with one hand
