I honestly think that GT was better than Super.
I don't.
>>282109111It was. Toriyama was more involved in GT than Super overall. His only input with Super was the content they stole from the movies.
>>282109135toriyama only worked on the designs of the worst arc in gt, he had nothing to do with anything elsehe 100% had more input in super overall
>>282109111I agree because the opening song is legendary.
>>282109169>he 100% had more input in super overallAll he did was give out random story drafts to Toei and Toyo, which is really evident from how different Super's anime and manga are.
>>282109111Many are saying this.
>>282109169>he 100% had more input in super overallProof? I've never seen any evidence he was involved in Super outside of the content they took from the movies.
>>282109111it's just that Super was so bad that retroactively made GT good.
Toriyama wrote and even drew much of the Super manga. Toyotaro gets a lot of flak for Toriyama being a hack.
>>282109952>Toriyama wrote and even drew much of the Super mangaKek no he didn't. He wrote like a single paragraph of bullshit that the anime and manga adapted separately. Literally less input than GT.
>>282109967He wrote the drafts then revised the final scripts and redrew many panels. We know this for a fact.
>>282109111This is true. It's DB, DBZ and GT. End of. There is nothing else.
This is all the proof you need that Toriyama wrote Super. A fan of the series would never write this. Toriyama, who forgets shit and doesn't understand his characters would.
>>282109987You are making that up
All the proof you need to know Toriyama wasn't involved was how shitty Shitper was
>>282110861he was constantly redrawing/rewriting stuff in the manga, he definitely had a presence in it
>>282109111that's a fact, Super is garbage
>>282109111The OG Super Saiyan 4 introduction and build-up to it was far superior.I hope that if they reintroduce this form in any future post-Daima timeline, then in a similar way to how GT did it.
>>282110933I already said he did a minimum of character designs. Less than he did for GT, however.
>>282109111Based
>>282109967Toyotaro said that all of Bardock's story in the Granolah arc was made by Toriyama.
>>282109111>GT was better than Superit doesnt take much because super is shit. but if there's one fanfic done right that is gt, the ssj4 is canon by rule of the cool alone.
>>282110933I'd bang all of the women in this image.
>I love SS4!>*masturbates to Pan*>SUPERSUPERSUPERSUPERSUPERThis is all GTfags ever post about.
>>282109111You're comparing shit to shit.
>>282111135What did he do for GT?
>>282109111When was the last time you watched GT?
Toriyama was forced to do and say all those things for Super and GT.