Kazekage Rescue MissionChapter 257: Kakashi Comes ThroughPrevious chapter: >>282060757 chapter 255-256Start: https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/a.desu.meta/subject/Daily%20Naruto%20Chapter/filter/text/page/7/Believe it!Thanks for joining and reading.
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>>282118658sakura said she read all about itachi in tsunade's reports but she didn't know what he looked like? Nothing game-breaking, but it's a bit odd. We know they have photos in the bingo book after all
>>282118971>>282119023this exchange along with kakashi remarking that he learned a new jutsu a couple of chapters ago firmly implies he unlocked his own mangekyo only recently. Would hate for that to be retconned.
>>282118658>now Sakura is a bumbling retard for the benefit of the reader (who also already knows who Itachi is)Why kishi
>>282118971If Itachi really is a huge threat, Samui could kill or incapacitate him right now. Does this mean Kakashi is in on it?
This feels familiar except the sensei isn't captured this time!Chapter 257: Kakashi Comes ThroughEND Tomorrow: Guy vs. Kisame!!
>>282119484>Gai goes for a big swing with a weapon he's not familiar with when his beloved pupils are in danger and he could just as easily kick Kisame's head clean off hereAh yes, the contrivances really start to pile up quickly, I forgot this.Kishi really has this story he wants to tell about Naruto and Sasuke, and the rest is all kind of filler he doesn't care about, you can tell. Anything to get us to that final panel he has dreamed up. The rest we can rush through and it doesn't matter if it makes sense. Characters are just going to act out of character and forget their own movesets in every fight. You WILL keep reading, this IS Big Three.
>>282119615*KamuiTho my wife could also solo Itachi, that's why she had to go into my cum jar
>>282119653Thanks, OP.
Collecting those Tenten panels reminds me of what I did with Carrot during her time.
>>282120195I like this panel. Would it be cooler if she wore the scroll like a cloak, or would that be silly?
>>282119653>a Jonin and two chunin job to 10% of Kisame's 30%
>>282120740They'd have more luck if they didn't literally jump Kisame (>>282119213) and gave up all mobility for no reason.
>>282120806Maybe >>282119714 is right.... This is what years of training and team practice has led to?
>>282119653Thank you OP
>>282120740Gai is Kage level
>>282119484>argh!Demote this shameful jobber back to chuunin, Shikamaru would never have let this happen
>>282120932He wasn't one of three who just jobbed
I love Naruto
>shy and struggle to keep eye contactI'd dab all over Itachi's eyes until I get killed by a basic shuriken or something.
Do you think Gai figured out his Itachi strategy because he's autistic?
>>282121240He figured it by fighting Kakashi a lot.
>>282120195thank you Tenten sperg, very cool
>>282118934>>282118971>>282119023What are the chances here that Kishi is actually foreshadowing Itachi thinking his plans were known, or related kakashi's eye to obito and the bigger picture?
>>282119396>his dopplegangers don't have the bag
>>282119518>10/10
>>282121268that would imply kakashi took their bets seriously enough to actually use the sharingan on him regularly, which is actually a pretty neat detail
>>282118692Kakashi showing PTSD from his last vacation
>>282121268>Avoids eye contact>Face blindness>Obsessive niche with tai jutsu>Forgets his own moveset mid fight>The "blue beast" insinuating furryismI beg to differ.
>>282118627WORST brother.
>>282118658>Chiyo didn't know Sakumo died but knows Itachi killed the UchihaHuh?
>>282118884That's such a lame and cowardly line from Chiyo there, you can't convince me she couldn't wipe the floor with those bitches that jobbed to Itachi in the flashback.
>>282119023>i-i dropped my guard that time!!!COPEkashi...
>>282120386>what I did with Carrot during her timeGod damn you are such a faggot
>>282119653>>282121512>>282121546Arigatou, OP!
>>282121903Sakumo: Lame faggot.Uchiha: the most IMPORTANT clan in the world.
>>282118627I’m seeing a trend with the cover pages being boring character portraits with blank backgrounds.
>>282118884How nice of Itachi to give Granny the time to explain all of that.
>>282119058I like Naruto's face here
>>282122299Yeah, this chapter was the most egregious example of "talking is free action"
https://files.catbox.moe/hwge0d.mp4
>>282118692>yelling out your strategyElite level ninja btw
>>282122576I love Fuu so much.
>>282119518>>282119551>The Gentle Fist can't break out of the Water PrisonThat seems pretty bullshit to me
>>282122299Because he is on their side
>>282121903Kishimoto is really all over the place with what the characters know and don't know about the lore.
>>282122537It's not gonna be the only time in this manga. Our villains are very polite.
i'm not gonna rewatch again to check, but how did the zabusa incident even happened??If my memory is correct, after Naruto bitched so much about easy E-rank (or was it D??) missions, they were given a C-rank mission: just escort someone. which meant protect him from robbers and thughs, nothing unusualbut then the feared Zabusa was involved. that's when it stopped being a C-rank missiondid Hokage fuck up this one?? he is absolutely responsible of sending genins to their missions, thats why the mission system was created in the first place, to regulate missions according to the shinobi's abilities/levels/etc. if you, with all your contacts, papwerwork and insight, send genins to missions that ARENT FOR THEM, how the fuck can you ignore that?he fucked up. his job was to be sure of the details of the mission. how the fuck did that happen? he literally endangered their lives simply because he, a hokage with a lot of responsability, fucked up???
>>282123074Obviously they didn't know. How could they?But when they got attacked by those chuunin and it became evident that the mission was misclassified, it became Kakashi's responsibility to pull out.
>>282119653Gai has already been established as the main character of his team, not Lee or Neji.
>Obviously they didn't know. How could they?>theyhow is this "they"?that's the hokage's job. there is no "they". doesn't he fucking check the details or anything?? imagine how easy it actually is to kill village's ninjas: just pretend you request an innocent safe mission, but bam, it actually is a trap. how is that not the hokage's responsability??
>>282123331meant for >>282123262
>>282123331The hokage and his contacts didn't know about some random construction worker's unique circumstances.
>>282123378the argument is still "t-they didnt know!!! >.<"still blind to the concerned problem I seethat's the (ho)kage you talking about. you fool him, you doom the village
>>282123440Ok, but they didn't know. What are you gonna do about it?
>>282122255same, this was somewhat tolerable during sasuke retrieval but just feels painfully lazy now.
>>282120740In hindsight, Neji being a Jonin feels honorary compared to Shikamaru.
>>282118884This dialogue is so cringe, like it wasn't obvious, lmfao.
Sasuga Sharingan Kakashi... hayai.
>>282123456go ask the same question when plot-protected naruto and sasuke died therebecause thats exactly what should have happenedkeep pretending "i-it's fine bro xdd"
>>282119023Itachi was about to call Kakashi a faggot
>>282120806But when you think about it, it gets so much worse.Lee is established as fast as fuck, and definitely much faster than the other two. If they are all taking this fight seriously, he should arrive at Kisame and have to be dealt with long before 1010's fat ass shows up. But they all arrive at the exact same second and job in an instant to the same jutsu when Neji especially should be way above the level of charging in blindly. It's like something out of Power Rangers or Super Sentai.
>>282123074It was an escort mission meant to protect Tazuna from thieves, wild animals or any other minor threats. If anything, they'd have to beat up some bums with weapons like the ones that tried to kidnap Inari's mum. Genin should be good enough to do it, and Kakashi could save them without breaking a sweat if they fucked up.But Tazuna lied about the mission and omitted the important detail that Gatou was sending ninja assassins after him because he couldn't pay for a B-rank or A-rank mission. Kakashi caught up to that right after the demon twins ambushed them, but Tazuna told him the true story and Kakashi sympathised with his situation. So it was ultimately Kakashi's decision to go on with the mission because he knew he could handle himself if things went bad.
>>282123262>>282123074>>282123331Bridge Builder lied about the details of the mission. Sakura wanted to pull out and Kakashi was considering it, but Naruto demanded they finish the mission to protect the old man so he could get stronger.
>>282118658For a second I thought the bottom right panel was Kakashi or Naruto's thought bubble.
>>282120082>>282120094>>282120125>>282120140>scrapsYou can't help but feel like Tenten was designed to meet quota.
>>282123978A lot of the characters feel like they were just designed to be filler ones for a tournament arc, but the 3-man squads made it so even the shitters kept some kind of minor relevance.
>>282123978Didn't Kishi literally say TenTen only exists because the team needed a third girl?
>>282124047No, i don't think Kishimoto ever uttered those words.
How would team 10 and 8 deal with Kisame here?
>>282118884>how do we beat this guy?>basically just overwhelm him so he can't look at all of you>damn, if only we had someone who knows how to create clones
>>282124100Choji turns giant and belly-flops into the newly created lake causing a giant tsunami which Kisame surfs on. Shikamaru uses the shadows of the crashing waves to extend his forward far enough to latch onto Kisame capturing him while Asuma water walks himself to the immobilized Kisame and cuts his head off.
>>282118884>sharingan's blind spotShe's talking about direct eye contact right? Because Obito's fresh sharingan certainly didn't have a blind spot.
>>282124105What is the solo princess' response to this?>susanooNaruto can outlast the mecha before even having to tap into Nine Tails chakra.
>>282124154JOBsuma would never accomplish that btw.
>>282124100The real question is how Kisame would deal with Shino's bugs eating him.
How would Itachi deal with Kiba's piss on eyes no jutsu?
>>282124253Bugs usually don't like getting wet.
>>282124253His chakra is basically poison to them, easy write-off.
>>282119615>SamuiI believe it
>>282124342That's never implied
>>282124105>>282124199the moment one clone is hit by the tsukuyomi and disappears days of suffering will be sent to naruto someone capable of controlling many puppets to surround the enemy would be more useful in this situation
>>282119551>>282122670seriously does the water not count as chakra-based all of a sudden???
>>282119653Thank you OP.>>282122670We all know Neji will never remember to use it>>282123290What do you think this manga is about, Teamwork? Youngs growing to surpass the old generation?
wheres power lever tier list guy
>>282122255>>282123457I think Kishimoto started changing this late part 2 but it's pretty bad.
>>282122670>>282124455>>282124500You guys are using the theory of the Gentle Fist, not how it's actually applied in the setting. Kishi isn't going to have Neji neutralize all chakra-constructed jutsus with his Gentle Fist.
>>282122255>>282123457>>282124659The manga lost its soul. By this point, the series has become mainstream. Kishimoto doesn't have to impress you anymore because you'll just like it because it's Naruto.
>>282118884These obvious infodumps are so bad
>>282124704The manga artstyle definitely lost its soul around Tsunade search arc and only seems to get better again in the second half of part 2 (still generic but better executed)
>>282118934I fucking hate these wank. Itachi has NO reason to call Kakashi smart here ffs
>>282119714The sequence is kind of stupid (as it often is) but Gai leveraging the huge sword he stole is perfectly fine...
>>282122670>>282124455>>282124668Neji is literally going to break this with his gentle fist in a chapter or two
>>282120386Based Ramen
>>282124785Kakashi is smarter than Shikamaru, has a better sense of smell than Kiba, is more adapt to the sharingan than Sasuke, and superior to Lee in tajutsu! All stated in the manga!
>>282124936At least Naruto sucking Kakashi's dick makes more sense
>>282124936actually if Kakashi used his Sharingan to duplicate Gai's fighting style at some point then I could actually see him being better at taijutsu than Lee
>>282124785get that Uchiha cock out of your mouth, faggot
>>282118884>if it’s one on one, run>if two on one, take his backI’m not a nitpicking fag like some of the people that decide to walk into these threads, but can’t Naruto just spam clones until Midtachi gasses out? This is probably the only time where gang no jutsu would make sense while the actual Naruto refrains from being caught in a genjutsu.
Kekashi is actually the smartest ninja around. Even the most glazed Uchigger could recognize that l, especially since he can guess Kekashi unlocked “that” move
>>282119139to be fair when he unlocked it for the 1st time, he was passing out, so he wouldn't know if he had unlocked it or not until his fight with Itachi
QuestionIf Guy got put in the water prison, could he get out somehow? Or is he screwed?
>>282125408Gates aura vaporize the water.
>>282125408We don't even know what water prison does beyond incapacitating you somehow. Like, what actually is holding you in there? Chakra? Kisame's will?
>>282121903She's senile.
>>282122299He's a polite guy.
>>282122576what she doing?
>>282123978When I said every Tenten, I meant every Tenten. I just can't keep up with the chapter the same day all the time.
>>282124414Sorry I just always have my wife on the brain
>>282123331Well done you killed some randomly-assigned ninjas, have fun dealing with the squad of pissed-off Jonin or foundation assasins that are now coming after you.
>>282119615>>282124414>>282126795>Tfw Samui can't even come back in Boruto since her seiyuu is dead.
>>282125600It's definitely implied that the stronger the user, the more "force" the water imposes. When Zabuza used it against Kekashi, the threat was indeed on him drowning but, perhaps to farm aura, he just sat there annoyed while the boys broke him out.Team Gai here is supposed to be no slouches, but it appears they are INSTANTLY at risk of choking and death. It's definitely assumed to be a higher skill usage, even spread out so far as KisameChakra=x1.0(x.3)[x.1]
>>282124038Tenten definitely has it the worst, though. You can tell that all the other Konoha genins at least had some sort of role to fill in the Chunin Exams or later, but Tenten was so unimportant that even her fight with Temari was offscreen.
>>282125735Kisame using his chakra to apply pressure through the water onto her chest is kind of like feeling Tenten upShe's kind of into it, check out that moan
>>282125754Choking Tenten!
>>282118884Oh yeah, that's a good plan. It would be a shame if the Uchihas could just summon a massive chakra avatar that can counter any sort of strategy you could create with brute force alone.
>>282118627BESTEST Brother
I love Sasuke's mentally fucked up big brother
>>282126983t. Kiba's sister
>>282123918Goddammit, the dab kick is too strong
>>282123492I'm sure Kishi will have him show why he became a jonin over everyone else and that last chapter wasn't the last time he landed an attack on a named character for the entire rest of the series.
>>282118971Guess whatever Kakashi had to say in the top right panel wasn’t important at all.
Do you think this arc would've been better if it took place in another village with a jinchuriki that we haven't seen yet instead of the Sand?
>>282119023>I don’t make the same mistakes twice.Quickly anons! Scour the through the entirety of the manga to prove Kakashi’s claim wrong.
>>282127056No, because Kishi wouldn't be able to bait you with a beloved character "dying".
>>282119396So are all the different elemental clones just as good as Shadow Clones or shittier because they require even more chakra to create?
>>282120195Is there any actual benefit to using a massive scroll like that instead of a smaller one?
>>282121953Yeah, why would a fucking ninja whose specialty is poison and hiding behind her puppets use unhanded tactics?
>>282119551I actually forgot Kisame could use Water Prison. Question is did he steal it from Zabuza or did Zabuza steal it from him?
>>282127162It's probably a basic Kiri technique for strong shinobi there.
>>282119615>Samui could kill or incapacitate himIf she were to trap Itachi in her fat Aryan milkers for a the better part of an afternoon then yeah sure.
>>282120172>1010 exposing her ankles so shamelesslyScandalous.
>>282127056I don't think it would have changed much considering that the arc is somewhat well liked aside from Naruto not getting to do much besides chimp out over a corpse and hog all the credit because he punched the edgy out of Gaara 3 years before, and Team Guy being stuck fighting clones offscreen on what was the second to last time they would get any focus for the rest of the series.
>>282127144I really doubt Chiyo counts those as ganging up on enemies.
>>282126944>chakra and stamina so shit he wouldn't be able to keep it up for so longHonestly if you really think about it he isn't even that impressive. You can basically stall and overwhelm him.
>>282122403>that face you make when someone insults your gay lover Sasuke-chan
>Itachi:"Before we take this any further, i should warn you that my body count is already at 3 digits">Izumi:"It's ok Itachi, those kills just prove you're an amazing shinobi!">Itachi:"Kills?"
>>282127340whore
>>282127375Is Kiba's sister an edo reanimation in the present story?
>>282127198It's the natural counter to Tsukiyomi. No matter how many years you spent between them, it would never be long enough. You would feel as though five minutes had gone by, when months are flying off the calendar.
>>282127340>>282127375Itachi may be a mass murderer and the worst brother ever but he is NOT a slut!
>>282127394She never died.
>>282127425he makes sluts
>>282127425Itachi was such a manwhore he died of AIDS.
SHITachi? My BITCH
>>282127483Danzo-sama...
what is the context of this frame?
How did Sasuke turned out so pure compared to his Slut brother?
>>282127833Sasuke didn't think like Hokage at age 7.
>>282118884>if it's two on one, get his back>huh what does that meanam i crazy or did the writing take a dramatic hit immediately? part 1 didn't feel this phoned in
>>282127833>Sasuke >pure
>>282128240They're talking about using superior numbers to jump an enemy from his blind spot as if it's a gigabrain IQ tactic, so yeah.
is Zabuza arc Naruto's Namek?
Uchihoes aren't pure
>>282128373I think it's more about establishing how OP sharingan genjutsus are meant to be in 1v1s.
>>282128240>>282128373Wait until the story gets to Hidan, kek.
Sasuke is gay for Kabuto
>>282128377No, that's the war arc.
>>282118658>Ah, you're the little fruitcake that knifed his whole family in their sleepBased Chiyo
>>282127096Kishi could've introduced a new character and made them beloved before giving them the fakeout death at the end.
>>282118971Was there a reason for kakashk to keep his eyesight after spamming his?
>>282129009He was only able to use it twice a day before dropping dead for a week. He only spams it during the war but you can chalk that to Naruto giving him kyubi roids
>>282124421Nah, that's not a thing yet. Or really ever, because even when the "experience share" asspull gets brought in he doesn't get phantom pains from them
>>282128993Introducing friends that die the same arc is already a questionable technique but the fakeout death would be even shittier.
Why isn’t Obito helping them secure the Biju? What the fuck has he been doing?
>>282129412Larping as a retard or the previous Uchiha clan leader from decades ago.
>>282129412>What the fuck has he been doing?Pretending to be retarded... unless this is the spiral Zetsu pretending to be Obito's future disguise while real Obito is in the Kamui dimension masturbating to pictures of Rin and cleaning up all the crap Kakashi sends there.
>>282124253Kisame would summon very tiny sharks to eat the bugs like the mouse-sized dinosaurs in Jojo.
>>282129470Danzo looks cool in his disguise
>>282118811> we have tactics to fight the sharingangranny, you guys can't even beat poison. the fuck you gonna do against amaterasu>>282118905> he has you instantlyas opposed to visual genjutsu that is delayed? does that ever appear in the story?>>282119058> don't bother backing me up with shadow clones, they'll only get in the way>>282119714I have no counterargument>>282119551embarassing
Kisame is a dull "fightfag??" with barely any character or real motivations.Kakuzu for being the oldest Akatsuki is written with jobber bandit personality
>>282129470Shit like this is a really good example of just how shit the writing in this series is.
>>282130136I read and watch naruro for the crazy ocular powers
>>282129412Tsunade sent him on an S-rank mission far away from the village.
>>282129575Kisame is a real shinobi
I really don't know why this arc bothered with making Guy's team be part of the plot. Their roles later on in the arc could have easily been given to Baki, Temari and Kankuro (and maybe that Gaara fangirl) and nothing about the story would change.
>>282130537Kishi needed to start reintroducing the old cast after the timeskip and show off their new designs. Problem is that there was nothing for them to do when there were only two antagonists around.
>>282130537Team Guy and the pointless Kisame and Itachi fights just make me think either Kishimoto or Yahagi wanted to throw as many popular characters into that arc as possible. I wonder how much of that was influenced by licences and other sales.
>>282130537Matsuri love! Yukata love! Temari love! Sand girls are simply the best
>>282130537>I really don't know whyThat's my entire experience with Naruto, you either accept it and stop trying to think about anything or use any cute girl as an excuse to stop watching and jack off.
>>282129009No clue what you're on about. He hardly ever uses Kamui. He didn't even use it against hidan/kakuzu cause of his much of a chakralet he happens to be. He was only able to spam it during the war cause Naruto constantly pumped him full of chakra.
>>282130580The Itachi fight includes foreshadowing for MS blindness and Kamui, and also we see in the genjutsu mind rape sequence where we see how tormented Naruto is for not being able to save Sasuke or Gaara, these are important even though the fight itself was just to stall for time while Akatsuki sucked the shukaku out of Gaara.The Kisame one was pointless except to let Leefags and Nejifags know that Guy was now the only important member of the team.
>>282130747>The Itachi fight includes foreshadowing for MS blindness and Kamui, and also we see in the genjutsu mind rape sequence where we see how tormented Naruto is for not being able to save Sasuke or GaaraWe already know all of this.
>>282121903You can't really hide such a big event, and since Itachi became a fugitive after that, they would want everyone to know this guy could be killed without being afraid of causing a war with Konoha by doing so.
>>282130747>leefags>nejifagsTentenbros...
>>282129515>as opposed to visual genjutsu that is delayed?remember how Kakashi experienced 3 days worth of torture in just a few seconds? Normally genjutsu is just an illusion in realltimeImagine if Itachi gets your comrade with your intent of him being bait, so you try to free him from the genjutsu just to realize that he felt like he was fucked by a metal spike in the ass for 5 hours
the problem is that kishi panicked and dropped his best idea, the akatsuki, right at the start of part 1they were endgame material, the final war arc should have been about dealing with them, and there should have been infighting and less cooperation between nationsImmediately in Part 2 it's revealed that all the major nations pretty much get along somehow much like the U.N. in real life. At the very least they all put on an air of cooperation. So immediately Akatsuki has nowhere to hide, the ratio of like seven guys versus the entire world is way off, and Akatsuki has to each be Kage level, which means of course Lee and Neji aren't going to be doing shit but jobbing to themKishi makes this worse when it's like three people versus everyone in the entire world, and again when he keeps making it one person versus the entire fucking world and everyone in it, all cooperating together on the other side.
>>282130747>foreshadowing for MS blindness Kakashi could've said this himself after using kamui on Deidara. "Yeah, it's a very strong jutsu but I'll go blind if I use it too much">genjutsu mind rape sequence where we see how tormented Naruto is for not being able to save Sasuke or GaaraI don't think the readers need this sequence to notice it.>even though the fight itself was just to stall for time while Akatsuki sucked the shukaku out of GaaraKishi could've written this off as simply the teams not getting there in time. And don't forget the five seal barrier. These two fights eat up almost an entire volume of an already slow arc and the overall plot would've been the same with or without them. The only thing it adds is actually showing us Naruto learnt a new jutsu (a bigger rasengan)
>>282131038>So immediately Akatsuki has nowhere to hide, the ratio of like seven guys versus the entire world is way offThey could've used villages that aren't part of the 5 main nations, like the Grass, the Rain or the Steam villages if they wanted to go that route. Then again, the only Akatsuki left after the 5KS were Obito, Kisame and the Zetsu jobbers, so it's not like there was much you could've done with them for the war.
>>282122299it sounded so rudimentary That it probably made itachi even more comfortable to fight them.
Wrong thread but WHAT IN THE CUNTING FUCK IS THIS SHITI KNEW THIS GUY WAS SUS BUT ARE WE DEVIANTART NOW OR WHATBorutofags explain.
>>282131701get that rancid dogshit out of here
>>282131701A Juubi gained sapience and a humanoid form and created clones of a few other characters as his minions. It's pretty much that simple.
>>282131736But the...handfeet....The thumbheels.......Fucking why.
>>282119653Thanks.
>>282131701Did Ikemoto skip Kishi's lessons on how to make your villains aura farm without it looking too goofy?
>>282122299>*knock knock*>"Naruto-kun come with us we're here to kidnap you"Well, yeah...
>>282131758Ikemoto kinda apes Araki by trying to make characters fashionable.
How do Akatsuki even operate? Why did they go after Gaara JUST NOW. Why did they two years ago go after Naruto. Did they know about other Jinchuriki and where to find them? If the Akatsuki doesn’t care about time, then why do they insist on capturing the beasts in just pairs?Having specific pairs set up and planned to capture specific Biju, only works, if the plan was to get all of them at the same time and create the ultimate weapon in as short time as possible, before the nations can retaliate for getting their nukes stolen.Why go after Gaara AFTER he grows up to become a Kage? Was there no opportunity in all this time to strike and capture him, when he was a little shit?
>>282131038Personally, I think Akatsuki should've had more members besides 9 or 10. Their numbers were very little to be considered a global threat and maybe more members would've had some be throwaways for other characters and villages to fight.
>>28213215618 members. Two for each Biju.
>>282132127
>>282131998They were about to cut off his arms and legs before Sasuke and Jiraiya showed up.
>>282132806Where do they get "money" from?
>>282132878Missions.
>Akatsuki can't do honeytrap missions since they only have one woman who's basically the vice leader of the group
>>282132892Why not steal the money? Would be quicker.
>>282130805>Uchiha Clan's massacre is more important than the death of the guy who killed their son.Kishi...
>>282128344He married her so it's ok.
How to fix the Akatsuki (and consequently part 2) in easy steps that don't conflict with Kishimoto's greater vision for the series:>don't kill them off like villains of the weekThis one is easy. You keep the Akatsuki a real, persistent threat and avoid the issue of having only three bad guys left for half of part 2.>elite mercenariesWe only know the Akatsuki do missions to get funds because Kakuzu and Pain bring it up. Unless you count Kakuzu killing the monk guy leading up to Asuma meeting him and Hidan as a major plot point, this is largely ignored and of little consequence to the story. But they're a group stacked with the most dangerous ninja alive, from kage killers to clan exterminators. They're also unaligned and will hardly have any moral reservartions about the missions they'll take. >nagato's visionThe supposed leader of the Akatsuki had a vision of building up a mercenary army, making war more destructive and making bijuu nukes. That was the goal revealed to the readers before Pain got murked by Naruto shortly after. But this is a better supervillain plan for plot progression and we could see the Akatsuki successfully destabilising and sowing discord among nations just by doing their jobs. This would also create opportunities for the Leaf ninja to go out on missions more interesting than chasing after Sasuke and for Kishimoto to show us more of the world.>associate groupsThe "mercenary army" could just be other terrorist groups with an Akatsuki approval stamp. Kind of like what Taka were briefly. This gives Kishimoto disposable antagonists so that he won't have to kill one or more Akatsuki members per arc.
>>282133646>the warNow the war can be an actual war. The Akatsuki successfully destabilised the ninja world and there are conflicts everywhere, from skirmishes to more intense conflicts. Better than the whole world against two blokes and it tests Naruto's commitment to Jiraiya's dream. Akatsuki take the chance to hunt the remaining Jinchuriki.>tsuki no meLate drama. It's heavily suggested that Tobi has a secret agenda and there is something about him that wasn't revealed, but we never know what it is. Finally during the war we learn of Obito's true intentions just as he gets close to acquiring all bijuu. Maybe Sasuke plays Uchiha archaeologist and reading the stone tablet makes him realise Obito is not looking to destroy the ninja world and rebuild it, but execute a doomsday plan. Doesn't really matter how it goes. Hold the mystery for longer, make the twist at the climax.
>>282118692owari da
>>282119023>Kakashi... are you... gay?
>>282133001Anon, they are not criminals.
>>282131701burrito isn't canonget over it
>>282133812>they are not criminalsNigga, what?
>>282133885gitwm
>>282132127The Akatsuki are cold professionals in contrast to Orochimaru's sadism. They give villages courtesy since Pein too was an orphan and the village treats their hosts like crap.
>>282133988>They give villages courtesy since Pein too was an orphanI think they only do it for money.
>>282132127you don't get it.Akatsuki were on special missions, and the Konoha jounins were all on special missions all the time, the same with Sand jounins who were on missions and in 2 years they couldn't go after Orochimaru because of their ultra special missions, then one day Pain decides to take his 5 dudes and blow up Konoha at the risk of his own life even though he had planned everything, yep. *claps* bravo kishimoto
>>282132127I bet they had they had no idea that the little psychopath would become kage. Imagine how hard Nagato shit himself once he realized he would be kidnapping not only a jinchuriki but also a kage. Deidara must of have a good pay day.
>>282133885Foxbros...we lost to a Hen...
>>282118811Yeah it's called being autistic
>>282134037The Akatsuki are just cheaper than Zabuza, Orochimaru, and the Sand. The feudal lords want cheap rates.
>>282133885So... Tayuya would have manhandled Sasuke too?
Does Rock Lee have some sort of physical disability that makes it unable for him to use ninjutsu and genjutsu, or is he just autistic?
>>282136145I think Lee was unable to use ninjutsu/genjutsu. Gai went out of his way to specialize in taijutsu because he's autistic. Lee is what happens when a kid idolizes an autistic role model.
>>282133646Just like the Taliban, the Akatsuki would be bored with peace. Naruto villains aren't like Dragonball where Freiza, Red Ribbon, or Tao fall back on rackets when they don't beat the hero.
>>282131701>we want the jojo audience
>>282136145I think he's just really really fucking bad at it because he can still manipulate chakra to walk on water and shit
Playing Elden Ring for the first time is making me notice that it's plastered with Naruto references. Even the Ashes of War shit sounds like Jutsus to me.But the story is the main trigger. Giant trees, aliens and parasites, conflict between brothers. Was Kishimoto a shadow writer for this?
>>282137237Also Rykard. That's literally Orochimaru.
>>282136145>>282137176A reasonable headcanon excuse would be limited hand dexterity disabling him from making signs accurately and fast enough to be of use. If that were the case, he could still learn techniques that are pure chakra control, which he doesn't have issues with. Like Rasengan
>>282137237World tree is mythologicalMoon/ayys come from some Japanese myths too (Kaguya)I'd say Naruto is the Metal Gear of manga
>>282137419When is Naruto getting the Metal Gear Rising treatment?
>>282127108At least lightning clones could paralyze the opponent, and I guess the water clone can use itself to turn into another water jutsu but from what the manga showed us they take a ton of chakra and only few could use then effectively
>>282137419But let me guess, you can tell the Berserk references just from the poses? Shut the fuck up, bitch.
>>282138926Did I stutter? If you think Naruto invented world tree or ayys in Japanese mythology you're a child
If a hyuuga woman told you "nice cock", how do you respond?
>>282138982Berserk didn't invent armors and snake people either.
>>282118627In a one on one, ALWAYS bet on Itachi
>>282132127>Why did they two years ago go after Naruto.Yeah, why did Itachi go after Naruto early for no reason, letting Konoha know of the Akatsuki plans, while also reminding someone that his brother should remain safe?
>>282122299Because he knows whatever they try, they can’t beat him.Its like listening in on a huddle of kindergartners trying to figure out how to take you in a fight
>>282139426Whose the Oden of Naruto? Shikamaru?
>>282125217Won’t work because Itachi is also a top tier taijutsu user and will blast through all the clones to get at the real Naruto
>>282139488Why did Kisame go along with it?
>>282139592kisame is in it for the love of the game
>>282119148>>282119213God I love these quick improvs top tier Taijutsu users do
>>282139542>Power scalers whenever Itachi can't genjutsu his way out of a fight.
>>282132949>implyingAnon, pleaseShe was wrapping her paper pussy around every Gato-level benefactor she could get her hands on. That's why we never see her until so late in the story, she was FUCKING men for CASH.
>>282133646This post reminds me that Akatsuki should have also been more shrouded in darkness, there should have been small scale conflicts between nations in Part 2 and it should have been this creeping dread that the situation was engineered by or somehow benefiting Akatsuki.Instead they show up with their big bright cloaks in broad daylight every time and just are instantly down to throw hands with anyone they run into including Kages.
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>>282139514Given Itachi had the exact same>at the tender age of [extremely young age], X [insert legendary feat almost no other character in the verse was capable of doing at that age here]type infodump as Oden at some point in Shippuden, its definitely Itachi
>>282139670Hey I didn’t write Itachi to be this absolutely overpowered character that canonically never lost a fight
>>282139488>reminding someone that his brother should remain safe?*mindrapes his brother into a coma*
>>282140107I really don't know why Itachi didn't go after Orochimaru after he learned he came into contact with Sasuke and gave him a cursed seal. Killing him should've probably been a top priority.
>>282140867Nah was part of his plan.
>>282133868They want the tailed beast. They don't want to kill anyone. The only exception are hidan and kakuzu. Itachi and Kisame paid the bill to ramen guy
>>282141105I think attempting to kidnap a child and cut off his limbs still counts as a crime, anon.
>>282141364But they are not bad guys. It's their job.
>>282119551>can't breathis this new?pretty sure Kakashi could breath just fine.
>>282127375>lovers
>>282139488Itachi says it was an order from the "higher ups" of the Akatsuki to go after Naruto at that time. So unless he lied and Kisame was completely unaware then the order to capture Naruto came from Pain or Obito.
>>282118944They also should have ID cards for every shinobi.
I kinda hope somebody storytimes-of-pain b*rt after thisI don't think I can stomach reading it alone, I need an emotional support thread to power through......
>>282142512That's already going to happen, but not by Dailyramen.
>>282142761Cool...When?
>>282142781When Nart ends, of course.
>>282139342Nah, but some influences like demons on wheels are clear
>>282142803Makes sense
>>282139542Itachi gets raped in CQC by sage Naruto at least.
>>282139748Kishimoto LOVES having his villains infodump their plans
Chapter 258: Guy vs. Kisame!!
>>282143307> Guy isn’t even on the coverwhat’s the point of these nonexistent bait and switches?
Ooo, I'm right on time
>>282143307IrreLeevant
>>282143345nunchakus feel surprisingly lowkey in a fight against a giant demon sword that can suck chakra
>>282143345>THE MOMENT HAS COME>>282143367>meanwhile...I would laugh so hard if their fight was off screened
>>282143453Those nunchakus?Stronger than the combined juubi.
>>282143453>>282143476>30% Kisame takes out base Guyabsolute menace
ENTER
>>282143435the itachi-fght is really lame so far. Whatever happened to exploding clones and super fast water spikes? Part 1 Itachi felt like he was all about efficiency, here he is dragging things out
>>282143586gentle fist taking out chakra-constructs once again
>>282143552>needs 6th gate for 30% Kisamethe jump in power for the last 2 is insane
>>282143586to the anon asking yesterday why Neji didn’t break the water jail, here you go
>>282143618now it just raises the question why he didn't break it earlier
>>282143608>>282143618Please elaborate what actually happened.
>>282143332>Killer B: not if i have anything to say about it!
>>282143637You escape when the enemy is distracted.
>>282143629The bottom right panel is really funny but I can't explain why.
>>282143656look at Lee's admiring glance. Can't wait for him to catch up and surpass Gai
>>282143710cool spread
>>282143653Back in the Sasuke Retrieval Arc, Neji destroyed Kidomaru's webs, saying the Gentle Fist can destroy objects made from chakra. Kisame's water prison isn't real water, it's water made out of his chakra. Neji is capable of projecting chakra from every pore of his body, which is just a spherical application of the main principle of the Gentle Fist, and uses it to destroy the water prison.
Chapter 258: Guy vs. Kisame!!END Tomorrow: The Power of Itachi...!!
>>282143710>This is Taijutsu
>>282143789>Lee uses 5 Gates>Gets his shit fucked up hardcore>Guy uses 6 Gates>Eh, just a little tiredPower creep is a bitch
>>282143332I don't think Samehada should work independently like that, or even at all. Given the fact that Kisame is simply puppeteering another dudes body. Spawning a separate and complete sentient being with it's own abilities seems not really logical to me.
>>282143789Thank you OP.That was kinda lame, Guy soloed him effortlessly after he went super sayan mode.I think it would have been better if, like with Zabuza, the team managed to help him.Also I liked more when the gates were unlocked one by one, but that's just personal preference.
>>282143391Itachi's chakra can't be high enough to just make clones like that.
>>282143552SIX gates for this?
>>282143391>can't even physically overwhelm a WEAKER version of ItachiKEKkashibros...
>>282143874Making fire through friction and high speed is actually believable, the air tiger he makes later on is bs though.
I remember the Kisame fight being a lot longer in the anime, holy shit the pacing was bad>>282143710>>282143656Remember back when we were hyped that Lee would eventually reach this level?(Why didn't they translate Asakujaku when they've been translating every other move so far?)>>282143874He's just punching really fast bro
>>282143374Kishimoto just draws whatever he feels like drawing for the cover page.It never matches the chapter.
>>282143962Shoulda been something like>Tenten distracts with weapons>Neji 64 palms>Lee kicks him into the air>Guy Asa Kujakus
>>282143950Maybe Samehada is also puppeteering another sword.
tonight it seems I'll be watching gai vs madaraand finally understand what the big deal with gai everybody talks about itbut it remind methe eight gates, back when it was introduced with rock lee, I dont' remember exactly what he used, but it told us, the auidence, "this technique is forbidden, it costs your life". gai himself told lee to use it when someone you care about is in danger (ok maybe it was other technique, think it was the sound ninjas vs sakura)but the point is: lee was fucked-up after using itAND THENand then he uses the technique like nothing later in the series. even worse, he opes more gates, and never ever again we saw him at the edge of deathWHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED SOMEONE EXPLAINthink about Goku's kaioken. it was ALWAYS dangerous. it was never treated like nothing. the risks were always mentioned everytime goku used it
>>282144290>Thinking Kishi actually wants the rest of Team Guy to actually do anything
>>282144347I don't give a SHIT what Kishi wants
>>282143789Personally I really hate the Guy wank.
What was even the point of having Neji free himself and the others if Gai beating Kisame was gonna dispell what prison anyway?So fans don't ask him why Neji didn't do it?
>>282141780But who was that higher-up?If we want to go all the way to "Kishi planned it all" (Which he of course didn't), that's "Madara" who Kisame and Itachi both knew about, and who was the supposed collaborator in the Uchica massacre.
>>282144338I think the implication is that it would kill Lee specifically because he wasn't experienced enough to use it. Guy being more used to it can open more Gates without fucking himself up. Also, you'll see what happens with the fight
>>282144338While your point is generally true>it was ALWAYS dangerous. it was never treated like nothing. the risks were always mentioned everytime goku used itIs false, against Freezer he used it at max power all the time and they didn't even notice it.
>>282144397>>282144367>>282143789Arigatou, OP!
>>282129515> the fuck you gonna do against amaterasuFunny you mention that amaterasu is op when that jutsu does jackshit against any main character of the series the only time it killed someone it was with background characters and that it.
>>282144423we never saw rock lee training it or anything. the second time he used the gates it was like nothing we aren't talking about the big master sensei here, this is about Lee>>282144433wasnt he always fucked-up? plus it's not like he went x100. that's the thing with kaoiken, you can regulate it. Goku knows this - but the "don't abuse kaoiken" thing was always clearplus don't know if filler or canon so not that sure anyway
>>282137417>tfw Konohamari of all people mastered it without issues
>>282144338The technique costing your life was specifically about all 8 Gates.While yes, the technique is still dangerous to Lee, that's because he's still green. So Guy gave him several rules to follow about when he should use something like that.Guy himself can clearly use 6th gate, as seen here, with relative ease, so Lee should eventually be able to do so as well, in theory.
>>282144515Konohamaru only really mastered the rasengan as an adult.
>>282144506The Freeza fight had him use 10x basically all the time, which was his limit at that point. He then went for 20x at a certain point and it still did nothing and left him tired as a result, but it is kinda glossed over, because from there it just goes to him bombing the shit out of Freeza and then leading to Super Saiyan.
>>282144729>use 10x basically all the time>which was his limit at that pointuhh>He then went for 20x at a certain point and it still did nothing and left him tired as a resultso x10 wasnt his limit
>>282144758Should've been more clear, the limit of what he can do without huge negative repercussions.Similar to the Vegeta fight, where he was told to never go past 2x, and he did 4x in the end anyways.
>>282144506I'm talking about the canon fight with Freeza, he used the max kayoken he could at the time most the fight.
>>282144758Tbf, 10x was the limit when Goku had a power level of 90k and after zenkai bullshit he went to 3 million.
>>282142512You'll probably going to go "eh" about Boruto because it really doesn't do anything offensive.
>>282144176>>282144140STOP THINKING
At the very least, the Eight Gates do live up to their hype.
>>282145012The art style alone is several layers of offensive
>>282143391>already spamming rasengan
>>282142761I will 100% be here for this, never read this fanslop so I will be first timing it with you all
>>282143307>Lee-san, how many relevant fights will you have in this series?>O-one? Haha, good joke, Lee-san! You've already had one! T-that means... wait...
>>282143345I thought Gai was pulling out a gun for a sec.
>>282143765Being able to manipulate raw chakra is a really powerful ability. Can't wait to see how Neji develops it.
>>282143332Weld it? What do you weld it with? Arc? Might? Tig?
>>282145176I bet if there are any chakra construct armors he'll tear through them like tissue
>>282145176bro imagine how the Mangekyo Byakugan will be revealed and how Neji and Hinata will fight the Akatsuki.......If they are all Itachi level just imagine the battles. I'm so hyped dude
>>282143374>up to this very chapter we still thought Lee would have a great part 2 showing and redeem himself for being bedridden for all the important parts of part 1We were so naive...
>>282143552Solos your favorite verse
>>282143413The way the Rasengan almost engulfs Itachi makes me remember how it was depicted back when Naruto used it on Kabuto.
>>282145255Well being able to make chakra constructs is a natural extension of the Hyuga ability to expel chakra from all their pores, so he would be the one using the chakra armor. It makes sense as a high tier Hyuga ability, unlike the Uchiha who are focused on genjutsu and mental manipulation.
>>282145309>can go 1v1 against 10 tails Madara with 2 rinnegan and Sage of sixth paths boost>can't protect the Hokage or save the village when Pain attackskishimoto is a feels writer guy
>>282143753>more triple angle
>>282145448if it works don't fix it
>>282145416>1v1That wasn't a 1v1 lol.
>>282143656>>282143710>>282143753It's not just the raw power spike that gets me, it's even the way that the jutsus seem to take a gigantic leap in effectiveness, e.g. the 1st Gate (Forward Lotus) and the 3rd-5th Gate (Reverse Lotus) literally never worked ever, but the stuff Guy is doing with the 6th-7th Gate is actually bringing results
>>282145081Yeah the story isn't that offensive though. It's not, say, Higurashi Sotsugou stuff.
>>282145416Edo tensei minato + gaara is not a 1vs1
And madara was just toying with guy. Madara with Rinnesharingan + 10tails was invincible. The alien shit was introduced to kill madara
>>282145258The Golden Byakugan will be unlocked! This Zetsu guy must be a lost Hyuga who was able to obtain it!
Solo Hinaing
>>282145845if you think about it...
>>282145993COOLnata
>>282143656>H-he'a fast
>>282145789He was also helped by Lee there.
>>282146036One finger punch...
>>282145833I'll always stand with the notion that Guy and Madara should've just mutually killed each other, Madara getting fucked by Zetsu/Kaguya fucking sucked
>>282146108The series really could've used more coolnatas.
>>282145833>Introducing something stronger than Madara to kill MadaraDo Madarakeks really?
Hidan + Ino solos madara
>>282146118Might Guy isn't cool enough to see with Madara, sorry.
I miss Madara's Wife
>>282146702I don't think she leaves the waifu/husbando threads.
>>282143345How are they breathing?
>>282147027Ninjas can presumably hold their breath a long time.
It's amazing how Kishi wasted the Hyuugas
>>282132127Akatsuki all have to be paid well and trained on really weird jutsu. The ones out of the inner circles- Deidara, Kakuzu, Sasori and Hidan all think the goal is to corner the market on A and S missions to relegate the hidden villages to escort quests, then continue outcompeting them by being the only people around who can wrangle tailed beasts when they show up.Going after tailed beasts so aggressively even after years of prep should really set off some red flags for the members like we're not going to be rich are we.
>>282145789>>282145635They barely gave him one assist, he did like 90% of the job. It's fucking retarded strong
>>282143367>Guy vs. Kisame...
>>282147312I always felt Sasori would've been the type to go along with Obito's plan if he were told.
>>282147467>Madara didn't use limbo>Gai would 100% die if Minato didn't take that TSO on his behalfI like Gai as much as the next anon, but he could NOT 1v1 juubidara.
come to think of it I can't remember the last time I saw the Madara copypasta, you know the one
>>282147080That doesn't work when they keep their mouths wide open.
>>282147964You don't have to exhale or inhale with your mouth open.
>>282143789Thanks, OP.
>>282147850That's still exactly what I said. He got ONE assist and the rest was all him. He almost killed Madara right there. It's ridiculous>Madara didn't us....Tons of characters fighting all out don't use strong jutsu for no reason. That's how the writing works.
>>282144810Yes and Kaiokenx4 fucked him up so bad he basically lost the fight and was at Vegeta's mercy if not for the rest of the Z Fighters.
>>282143710Guy's parts look better in manga, everytime ty op
>>282148748CUTE
>>282147938
Funny how dead these threads are
>>282149202
>>282139488If it was Deidara and Sasori that invaded Konoha, they would have captured Naruto and killed everyone.>B-But Jira-They’re both stronger than Jiraiya. Unlike Itachud and Fraudkame
>>282149295That's common with part 2 oddly enough, chapters that aren't unhinged bullshit get less traction that the most mundane things in part 1.
>>282143530Hun...gry... SHARK SHARK SHARK SHARK SHARK
>>282150015Deidara beats anyone not named Sasuke but Jiraya takes Sasori
>>282150019>That's common with part 2 oddly enoughWhat does that even mean? Previous storytimes had no issues
Is that.... music...?
>>282150015They are indeed incredibly overpowered unless you have raiton jutsus and cures for the incurable poisons.
>>282150095I think you're forgetting stuff because volume dumps got to the interesting stuff quickly.MANY chapters of part 2 were called filler and the first few volume dumps also had people already calling it a slog.
Which arc do (you) think was peak Naruto?
>>282150183>>282150095Things will probably start to pick up at bit once we get to Hidan and Kakuzu. Most of this arc until the Sasori fight and then Tenchi bridge is pretty dull.
>>282149741
>>282150368>Things will probably start to pick up at bit once we get to Hidan and KakuzuIn a good way or just for gayruto and circle memes?
>>282150539Both.
>>282150535Is this a thing? Can there be older Hinata/younger Naruto fanfics?
>>282150535Kid, teen and adult Naruto: why is she so weird
>>282145657The Lotus techniques were fucking shit. All Lee ultimately does is just spin. Lee can't "fly" in first gate, so the Forward Lotus is just a drop with normal falling speed. The Reverse Lotus is a physical blow, but it's not really all that different from any other regular punch Lee would throw in that state.
>>282145657That's because jutsu are a massive meme, it's all about who's using them.
>>282145657always kind of fucked up being reminded that Lee unironically did zero actual damage to Gaara even with 5 gates
>>282151298Maybe GOODY TWO SHOES Lee should've been a MENACE and stabbed Gaara on the brain through the eyes.Being a good guy is a bad tactic unless you're the MC.
>Lee invested too much into blunt damage over piercing damagekid’s ngmi
>>282151342>>282151402Naruto really is a weird setting where you can get the absolute dogshit beaten out of you with superhuman abilities and still walk it off (see also, Naruto vs. Kiba) but being stabbed with a basic kunai is borderline always portrayed as a viable threat
>>282151445it is>potential substantial blood loss from a punctured artery>hampered mobility from having a metal knife sticking out of you and damaged muscles or tendons>it's probably poisoned
>>282150911shy cute weirdo
>>282150911she finds him extremely sexually attractive and can't muster the self-confidence to admit her attraction because being rejected would destroy her ego
>>282144367time for shark soup
The clones just have 30% of the total Chakra pool of the original. They’re not "only 3/10 as strong as the originals"
>>282151571Also you would leave a blood trail, it's absolutely not ideal.
>>282143391Wtf Naruto can do an one hand rasengan?
>>282151899To be honest I can’t tell when chakra is supposed to just be stamina and when it’s supposed to be something like a power level
>>282118627The franchise mascot, the GOAT
>>282152288Tch... Naruto-kun, we're leaving.
>>282152376
>>282143413Is Sakura's ass normally that big or did Itachi give her a little extra here.
>>282152278Neither can Kishimoto.Somehow, Kurama leaking chakra onto Naruto is simultaneously handicaping and an advantage.
>>282151899No wonder Faketachi hasn't done anything but brood and threaten people; poor bastard doesn't have the chakra to do a single jutsu
>>282152394>sharingan>not tenseigan
>>282152394>TSUKIYOMI>traps Naruto-kun in an illusion that seems to last several days>she spend the entire time trying to work up the courage to talk to him; he just stands there in genjutsu world confused for three days while she hides behind a building
>>282150601Anythings possible with clone and transformation jutsus
How many red flags has Naruto and Hinata like a married couple?>Both had problems with lack of family love>Ignoring twice her confection.>Never in a relationship before.>Different social class since birth.>Different education and values. >Only dated her because Sakura said "fuck off>marrying plans 2 weeks after start to date.>Children in Young age>Annoying kids>Overworking husband.>Sasuke > Hinata>No hobbies in common.>Lack of communication.>Her family problems.>Both are hypocrites.>No time together.>Adopted a problematic teenager.
>>282152571Brazil?
>>282152571You don't like the realism?
>>282152394Wonder what would happen if a Hyuga got the Sharingan.
>>282152674It would morph into the zimbabegan
>>282152571>Never in a relationship before.>marrying plans 2 weeks after start to date.>Children in Young ageThese are green flags
>>282152571>>Only dated her because Sakura said "fuck offThis is wrong and not canon
>>282152674It would turn into a poopoogon
>>282143913many people forget that it wasn't the gates that crippled Lee, it was Gaara.>>282143496I think the 30% just means that they can't fight as long, not that they are actually 70% weaker.
>>282121728>that would imply kakashi took their bets seriously enough to actually use the sharingan on him regularly, which is actually a pretty neat detailKakashi would lose bad if he didn't use the Sharingan. Guy is Kage level.
>>282143710Pain is really lucky that Guy wasn't around when he attacked. This sort of spammable high level taijutsu would counter Shinra Tensei (due to cooldown) and jutsu absorption.
