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Are they still friends after Zero?
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>>282217665
Gil probably lost interest after a while
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Neither of them seem to care too much about the other dying. But their friendship was built on both of them being sociopaths, so I'm honestly surprised it was able to last for 10 years. They don't even betray each other at all in any route.
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>>282217665
>>282217773
In the context of the FSN VN, why were they friends?
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>>282217824
They fall in love in Fate Zero
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>>282217824
Kirei is a fucking psychopath and Gil find his twisted was amusing. That's literally it.
Gil only cares about others according of how entertaining, useful or annoying/anger-inducing they can be.
If you don't have anything that causes a reaction in him, he just considers you a boring NPC.
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>>282217824
They're gay
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>>282217665
King of Heroes with an ego top strong to be corrupted by the mud, but humanity's decadence affects his mind upon summoning. What a bitch.
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>>282220871
>King of Heroes with an ego top strong to be corrupted by the mud, but humanity's decadence affects his mind upon summoning.
What?
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>>282217824
They were less friends and more like Gilgamesh being the Ryuk to Kirei's Light Yagami.
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>>282217773
>But their friendship was built on both of them being sociopaths, so I'm honestly surprised it was able to last for 10 years. They don't even betray each other at all in any route.
Why would they, Kirei only cares about awakening Manjew and Gil is perfectly willing to help him do so with no guile, and the only thing Gil cares about aside from Kirei amusing him is Saber and short of agreeing to be his wife if he betrays Kirei and gives her the grail there's no reason for Gil to betray Kirei either.
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>>282220908
Quoting the wiki because it has annotations you can look up to verify it.
>He is influenced by the era in which he is summoned, and in the case where he achieves incarnation, his blood as a human will stir and gravitate towards that of the humans of the era.
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>>282221082
>Kirei only cares about awakening Manjew and Gil is perfectly willing to help him do so with no guile,
Why would Gilgamesh be fine with bringing Angra Mainyu to the human world?
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>>282221157
Why wouldn't he, he tries to do the same even when Kirei dies in UBW.
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>>282221294
Cause he's the ultimate king, why bother with Angra Mainyu?
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>>282221320
Because he thinks humanity is shit and deserves to be wiped out and more importantly, he's bored.
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>>282221082
Because Gil is insane and kills people for dumb, petty shit all the time.
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>>282221368
Then he could just do that himself.
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>>282221389
He may kill them for dumb petty reasons but he's not a random murderer like COOOOL. He's not going to just randomly kill Kirei as long as Kirei is still amusing him and he already told him he wants to see Kirei get the answer to his questions.
>>282221415
He was already halfway there and decided turning Shinji into a blimp and drowning humanity in mud would be more fun.
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>>282221320
>>282221368
>>282221368
>>282221415
Why didn't Gil take Sakura seriously?
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>>282221521
Because he didn't realize that there are worthless things in this world but not meaningless things.
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>>282221579
What does that mean? Things might have no value in and of itself, but people's emotions can give those things value?
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>>282221725
I don't think Kirei has thoughts that nice, I always interpreted as Gil underestimating the shadow because he failed to realize the weight of other people's struggles and pain.
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>>282221859
>I don't think Kirei has thoughts that nice
He talks like a poet when he first meets Shirou. Granting him happiness through his wish.
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>>282217824
>FSN VN
They weren't really friends. They just had similar goals.
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>>282217665
Neither of them are really capable of those feelings. Kirei is a unironic psychopath who cant empathize or connect, and Gil cant see humans on the same level as him, he just sees Kirei as entertainment.
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>>282224149
>Kirei is a unironic psychopath who cant empathize or connect,

Don't Shirou and Kirei empathize with each other?
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>>282217824
They fucked
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>>282217773
The writing is pretty weak so fans try to justify plotholes and things that make little sense with theories and psychology
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>>282224165
Kirei doesnt empathize with Shirou, he just understands his feelings from a logical and concrete perspective.



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