Kadokawa has a lot higher cancellation of manga than other publishers, they mostly seem to only care about their light novel adaptions.
In general it depends on sales, and a rough line is usually 2000 physical sales, which amount to 5000 total sales, where 3000 is digital sales. You can find out physical sales on shoseki rankings, but there is no public information about digital sales.
http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/
I've done scanlation of a lot of kadokawa series, and of like 10 of series I worked on, only 2 didn't get cancelled, and all of them were fairly popular. So I'd guess probably less than 10 percent makes it past an early cancellation.
Important to note Kadokawa has barely any advertisement or promotion for their series, they rely completely on either viral hype, or the artist doing advertisement themselves.

>>282253827
Leaving aside manga that were always intended to be short, so just thinking about manga that the creator wanted to do for more volumes, most get cancelled, usually because of sales. But from your perspective as a reader, you're more likely to be checking out the series that have a better chance of surviving. It depends on how you're finding stuff to read though. Cancellation is more of a problem for someone actively checking out new, untranslated series that are not getting spoken about by other people.

>>282254073
>Leaving aside manga that were always intended to be short
most original manga are written to continue if sales are good enough, the only ones that are limited are usually light novel adaptions, or a few ones that are like only one volume like that gyaru one a short while back

>>282254105
There are categories where short runs is the norm. Eromanga for example.

>>282253827
After volume 1 comes out, if it ranks poorly in Shoseki top 500 and sells like shit, it’ll be gone in 4-5 months in monthly magazine, and even faster in weekly magazine. Or they give the author another chance if volume 2 does better, but if volume 2 sales are still bad, they have to cut it. I have no idea what happens with series in web magazines
Garuru Girl is from monthly magazine and its sales are really bad

>>282253827
Get used to it or find another hobby.
Or read one of the thousands of complete manga, idk.

> You have to hope that the manga doesn't get axed in Japan
> You have to hope that the scanlation team doesn't stop because of drama
> You have to hope that your local editor doesn't get bored of translating the manga for whatever reason
It's hard being a dekinai

>>282254272
You could just, like you know, buy the manga to support it and keep it going? It's only $5 for a digital volume on places like bookwalker and kobo, and it counts as much as a volume bought by the Japanese.

>>282254194
>I have no idea what happens with series in web magazines
Web manga have in my experience about the same sales requirements as monthly manga, about 2000 physical sales which is estimated to 5000 total sales. My guess is that it's not the printing that's expensive, it's the advertisement and promotion weekly manga have in comparison to monthly manga.

>>282254414
As far as I know, a series in the web magazine Jump Plus needs around 2,500 copies in estimated sales over 4 weeks on Shoseki to survive. They have canceled 28 titles in this year
For physical magazines: Monthly Shounen Ace is about 4k, Weekly Shonen Magazine 5k, and Weekly Shonen Jump 10-15k copies and good Table of Contents ranking

>>282254981
>As far as I know, a series in the web magazine Jump Plus needs around 2,500 copies in estimated sales over 4 weeks on Shoseki to survive.
I think it's lower, Not you, Miyahara had lower sales and lasted far longer. It was in Tonari no Young Jump and not Jump+, but I would think the requirements were about the same.
I know a manga on kadokawa doro doro sharp that lasted for three volumes with 1650 physical sales, but it was fairly popular and got an early french license. It just didn't sell enough.

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>>282253827
Garuru Girl's ending specifically felt pretty good, it wrapped up pretty well. Honestly if it went on longer I feel it would have overlapped more with something like Jitsu Wa.

I guess the standards are different for each magazine. There are manga that never rank on shoseki for even a day and continued for +10 volumes, recently I saw Usotsuki Gokuo kun which seemed moderately popular on Corocoro, it lasted 25 volumes and now they are printing a kanzenban version, yet I checked its sales on shoseki and its last 10 volumes or so didn't even rank for a single day

>>282254272
>Manga is completed
>The English translation team dropped it so it's 6 months behind
>Even the Russian translation is completed

How cutthroat/harsh is Shonen Gangan?

>>282255405
Then you check if there is an official TL and it's only the first two volumes and no new release for 5 years now.

>>282255175
>Jitsu Wa.
that shit wa so bad, from the artstyle to the dumb shit plot, at least some gags and characters were good like the dude and girl with glasses or the lolihag principal with her grandaughter teacher

>>282255099
>It just didn't sell enough
are you talking about the japanese or the french sales?

>>282254016
>which amount to 5000 total sales
how other publishers can achieve that when even wsj new series struggle to do it

>>282258399
It’s 5000 digital + physical, Jump axebait sales 2000-6000 physical only

>>282258619
i doubt they can have good digital number since they are already available in Jump+

>>282256127
In general monthly manga is around the 2000 physical sales or 5000 total sales.

>>282258866
>i doubt they can have good digital number since they are already available in Jump+
In general 40 percent of sales are physical and 60 percent are digital. It doesn't matter if it's been released digitally or not, the digital volumes have better quality and extras, and they remove it from the web reader when the volume is out. And in general Japanese readers support the manga way more and pirate less since the piracy laws are severely more strict in Japan than other countries. In Japan you're actually breaking the law and go to prison for copyright breach.

Given how much /a/ throws a fit about cancelled manga I must have incredible luck in choosing what to read. The only manga I can think of that I was following that seemed like it was cancelled was Neko ga Nishi Mukya. But the way people on here act, 90% of the manga they follow get cancelled.

Maybe they conflate "ending I don't like" with "manga was axed". Like, I hated how Jojolion ended, but I don't think it was cancelled.

>>282258399
>how other publishers can achieve that when even wsj new series struggle to do it
Remember that on Oricon/Shoseki rankings you only see physical sales, which is about 40 percent of total sales, digital amounts for 60 percent of total sales. For weekly shounen jump I think the threshold is about 10 000 physical sales, which should amount to about 25 000 total sales. But I'm not very good with the weekly manga since I don't work on any weekly shounen manga, the only ones I've worked on ever were in Weekly Shounen Magazine, and it got canned even with 3000 physical sales.

>>282260121
Like I wrote earlier, as a scanlator I've worked on new series from Kadokawa, and all of them were fairly good and popular, at least on the rankings on comic walker, where is mainly where I found them. I think only two of them are still ongoing, seven on them got axed at two volumes, and one of them lasted three volumes.
You can't really know if a manga is going to be a success or not when you pick it up early, to be honest it seems like it's mostly random if it's a success or not. Even more weird even if it's pretty popular overseas and places like mangadex and plebbit and comick or wherever, it can sell almost not at all in Japan. It's really weird.
I think one of the biggest predictors of a manga being successfull, is mostly how much online presence the mangaka has in advance. The ones I worked on that are still going had known mangakas from before, from doujins or other series, and huge twitter followings. That seems to be one of the most important parts.

>>282260319
Japanese SNS is the best indicator

>>282260319
>Even more weird even if it's pretty popular overseas and places like mangadex and plebbit and comick or wherever, it can sell almost not at all in Japan. It's really weird.
i hate this shit so much, they are 90% pirate fags that will never put 1 yen on any manga or merchs so why dont they understand that japanese come first if not only Japan count in their liw iq heads

>>282259995
Out of curiosity and to the best of your knowledge, does it seem like Mechanical Buddy Universe and Sentai Red Isekai are doing well enough at the moment?

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>if a manga doesn't go on arbitrarily long or I don't like the ending then it was "axed"

>>282260319
>The ones I worked on that are still going had known mangakas from before, from doujins or other series, and huge twitter followings
are they mostly male or female?

>>282253827
im a brainlet so im probably missing something obvious, but is there any reason mangaka cant just self publish? like do they really NEED to have a publisher that controls whether their series gets to exist? i've seen shit posted exclusively on twitter get really popular, and doujins are a widespread thing too so clearly they all have the ability to make manga on their own time

>>282260661
People need to get paid. There's no guarantee you'll get paid with self publishing. It's the same reason most people don't start their own business. It's a lot of work for no guaranteed return as opposed to working for an already existing company.

>>282260661
Doujin is a real market you know? Especially now with digital distribution and pixiv/fantia subscription so they're not practically running in the red like before.
Still, the scalability of individuals lacking business acuity and only know drawing most of the time doesn't gonna compare to established channels of corporations.
The base line in earnings is simply much better even if you're failing working for a publisher than on your own. Telling mangaka that are already not selling to try and make the sales on their own isn't helping their case at all. Even fewer can find success this way and not everyone wants to farm cumbrains through paywalls (the highest chance of success alternatively)

>>282253827
if you add together the series that get axed and the ones that end on their own terms but still flub the ending you get 100%

>>282260121
many series also run until the author just says "i'm completely and utterly out of ideas" and throws together some uninspired wrapup and calls it done

>>282260631
I think both of those have male mangakas, but I'm not entirely certain about one of them.

>>282260661
They do, but it's far less common and way higher risk. But there are a few fairly well known self published works.

>>282260552
Why don't you just look them up and see yourself?
http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/?q=%E3%83%A1%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8B%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AB+%E3%83%90%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3+%E3%83%A6%E3%83%8B%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9
Latest volume monthly ranking rank 424, about 7500 physical sales.
http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/?q=%E6%88%A6%E9%9A%8A%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%83%89%E3%80%80%E7%95%B0%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E3%81%A7%E5%86%92%E9%99%BA%E8%80%85%E3%81%AB%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8B
Previous volume (not this week) monthly ranking 432, about 7386 physical sales.

>>282260661
There is the issue of discoverability. Its the hardest hurdle to overcome. If your manga gets recognized and published in a well known magazine then your work will automatically be seen by people who regularly buy the magazine.

>>282260661
They need funding. Manga isn't free to produce.

>>282261115
>But there are a few fairly well known self published works.
never heard if any can you please post some?
i know lot of them gained huge popularity but still needed a publishing company to put the printing money and the distribution

>>282261083
I think most of the male mangaka are doing some ecchi/hentai on pixiv or doujins on the side

>>282261297
So they're both doing pretty well based on the standard you mentioned earlier, good to know. Thank you for the info, and apologies for basically asking for a spoon feeding.

>>282253827
Define "cancelled before completion,"
Some series may end prematurely due to lack of popularity, in which case the ending will be abrupt and leave things hanging. If you're including that, it's a lot higher, and just the nature of such publications. In that case, seek already finished series already.
If you mean series that are entirely dropped without an ending, it's uncommon enough that generally you don't need to worry too much.

>>282260661
The manga market is not a niche thing and there is a big competition, if you want to be known by a big chunk if the population you dont have a choice
and i think lots of them dont know anything about the process to make it alone

>>282261516
Right now, you have the absolute bullshit that is Imasara desu ga. An editorial has picked it up now, but originally it was first released as a web comic and then self-published.

Tomo-chan was also originally a doujinshi.

>>282260661
Sounds even more risky.
At least the most popular magazines give you a monthly salary to cover the cost of assistants and apparently they also pay quite well for each page you deliver, which allows you to publish chapters more often and publish volumes more frequently. If you work on your own, where do you get the money to pay assistants? You should make everything on your own, you also dont gain anything unless you become moderately popular, you have to upload your own chapters on the internet at the rate you can and pray that it becomes popular among hundreds of other manga that are published online.

>>282261616
>If you mean series that are entirely dropped without an ending, it's uncommon enough that generally you don't need to worry too much.
thats the case when the author dies like most recently with the gyaru serie or long ago with Kaze no Stigma

>>282260661
An editorial guarantees you get at least an income every month. Producing manga takes time and the alternative is having another job to pay the bill until you make it big (if ever). Doujinshi authors publish the equivalent of a few chapters a year at most, because they simply don't have the time for more.

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quick reminder that some mangaka axe themselves their work if they dont get any anime deal or jyst want to work on something else(even if its garbage and less succesful than the previous one)

>>282261616
>If you mean series that are entirely dropped without an ending, it's uncommon enough that generally you don't need to worry too much.
basically the first jaryuu-chan serialization. abruptly ended at two volumes in the middle of serialization without an ending
the new rendition is selling really well though, luckily. I think it had 3000 sales on shoseki sales or something

>>282261821
wasn't that because he wanted to work on a zombie manga or something?

>>282261864
no it was a yandereshit

>>282261821
>some mangaka axe themselves their work if they dont get any anime deal
Ashirogi sensei…

>>282261971
the clean gyaru?

does infinite hiatus count like Nana or HxH?

>>282262100
That was rather the opposite wasn't it?
The author got butthurt about the axe notice and started to make chapter 8.X to infinite or something.

>>282261971
>some mangaka axe themselves their work if they dont get any anime deal
close you eyes make up mangaka did that as well, people really hated that ending

>>282262652
was that the one where the main plain girl was getting her gyaru makeup done by her teacher who then asked the mc boy to do it instead, and then he had a harem and rejected the best girl out of nowhere?

>>282253827
imagine her biting you dick during a sloppy bj

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>>282265135
I prefer to imagine the things she can do with her tail.

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