Will Netflix ruin JoJo Steel Ball Run?
>>282261479>Animated horse race that lasts for 39 episodes made to Netflix timescalesIt will look like shit
yes, I'm going to be incredibly disapointed
>>282261720They just need to use still images or crop the horses
>>282261479Netflix does not produce Steel Ball Run. They're not the ones to ruin it.
>>282262107Wasn't Stone Ocean ruined by Netflix's batches?
>>282261479Do retards not understand that Netflix only handles distribution? Caring more about release than actual production is idiotic as well
>>282262134That was DP/Warner Bros decision. They didn't have to let Netflix do the distribution.
Reminder that JoJo part one is the best.
>>282262195So why were we all shitting on netflix for that?
>>282262216Because people would rather parrot a simple misconception than to know the truth. DP and Warner Bros are ultimately responsible for Stone Ocean's flop.
Hopefully, normalfag infested franchise deserves it.
>>282262344You sound like a faggot
Was Funny Valentine right?
>>282262216People see "netflix anime" and shit their pants when all Netflix ever does is buy the distribution rights
>>282262144>>282262609Stop speaking truth, you're supposed to cry about how it's over and it was always over o algo
Do you guys think there will be fansubs on nyaa that will fix all the localized names?
>>282262577Yes.
>>282262945Most likely.
>>282261479obviouslyi read the manga 8 years ago and even then i remember thinking that this would be one of the hardest manga to animate
>>282261479>Will Netflix ruin JoJoNah Araki will ruin it with parts 8+9
>>282262609I'd rather Netflix than Crunchyroll
>>282261720There’s no world where sbr can be done justice.The adaptation is gonna disappoint everyone.
Mountain Tim and Wekapipo are cucks
>>282266634they have cool looking character designs tho
I wonder how many episodes SBR will need? I've seen people estimate around 50+.>>282262216Easy to blame Netflix. WB likely didn't put as much funding into SO than previous parts because its not too popular. DP themselves got some B or even C team to do SO. Covid happened as well. Damn near everything that could have hurt Stone Ocean's anime happened. Netflix have some share of the blame with their batch desire so customers can binge. It likely also meant that DP couldn't go back and touch up SO for the home release.>>282262945There was with SO so I don't see why not.
>>2822681632 chapters per episode so something like 47-48
>NOOOOOOO MY HECKIN JOJO FRIDAYSgrow up
>>282268269SBR has a thousand more pages than Vento Aureo and Stone Ocean, which had respectively 39 and 38 episodes. Not to mention that some chapters are very dialogue heavy.Unless they choose to rush the story, I think it will require ~55 to ~60 episodes.
>>282268163Which anime did their A team do?
>>282269476Weren't they busy with Fire Team or whatever its called? All of DP's JoJo has some wonky animation and art here and there but SO was just too much.
>>282269560Part 5 anime looked good to me
>>2822696085 is their best and honestly, it'd be nitpicking to find the flaws. It was a real love letter project and the same director of 5 is doing SBR so that is a good sign. Sadly SO has much more obvious and egregious flaws. I don't think SO even had an OC scene. 3 had a few but was mostly due to stretching the source material very thin. 4 had an extended ending sequence which worked really well. 5 had the Fugo stuff. 6 is already a fast paced part and the anime was a perfect place to add in a scene of the gang hanging out, slow things down. I'd have also taken a montage of the JoJos during MiH. Johnathan and Erina's grave, Joseph in NYC with Suzi Q and Shizuka, Josuke in Morioh likely as a cop, Giorno in Florida having his luggage stolen by a shady taxi driver and then we go back to the gang fighting Pucci.
>>282261479Horses are too hard to animate. >>282268163Where are you getting these opinions from that stone ocean isnt popular? Did it have less volume sales than previous and later entries?
>>282262144Look man what you fail to realize is that netflix has 100s of guys that stand in suits at their headquarters and talks directly to the heads of whichever program they are distributing for. They have the sway to say stuff like. Change nojiko the pale skinned blue haired girl in one piece to black african. Make sure luffy is brazilian. Etc. Netflix has the ability and pull to make those kinds of decisions because animators need netflix to get their shows viewed by american audiences.
This is the only JoJo thread right now so I'm just gonna ask hereHow's JoJoLands so far?
>>282271836I stopped like a year ago but that is just how I am with monthly releases, I easily move on and forget to keep up. I kind of liked JoJolands before I stopped, the first chapter was rough for me and a lot of people but I got over it. Didn't really like the gang too much though. I'm a simple man, JoJo should be about good people fighting evil whereas JoJolands is a bunch of assholes fighting other assholes except we know for sure that Jodio wins and wins big.
>>282261479Is this real?>>282262577Yes but also no.
>>282261479>Will Netflix ruin...that's what netflix does
>>282272529>Is this real?Yep
>>282261479No, DavidPro will ruin Steel Ball Run.
>>282272586How so?
>>282261479
>>282271836Pretty goodPaco is very quickly becoming one of the best allies ever and the last chapter injected that must needed schizo lore into the part
>>282266634How was Wekapipo a cuck? The only woman relevant to him was his dead sister.
>>282271406>Where are you getting these opinions from that stone ocean isnt popular?Most popular parts in general in Japan are 3 and 5 its just always how it shook outI do think the anime brought more attention to the others though
>>282261479Yes
>>282261479Stone ocean ruined jojo
>>282272876He died protecting a woman just because Johnny said so.
>>282274109Johnny was right tho
>>282274167GOD TOOK THE WRONG SON
>>282273668Not really. It wasn't a bad ending
>>282261479keep in mind SBR revived the manga after Stone Ocean and Golden Windmaybe it'll be the same with the anime
>>282274908VA is consistently in the top 3 of Jap polls, SO and SBR are the only ones above JJL
>>282271836Do you know Poochie from the hit series The Simpsons? The guy that presents himself as a girl, Dragona is Poochie. His personality is that he is loved by every person that meets him. Every guy except based Paco has shown interest in fucking him. All the villains also seem to be pulled from 70s disco ads. Which look completely nonsensical considering the story takes place at around the covid outbreak of 2020.
>>282275961that's how people treat queers irl
>>282271836Pretty good, I like it a lot.
Expect countless stills of horses running with sound effects of hooves playing. Most JoJo parts have been slideshows but part 7 will take the cake
>>282273668True, it was an awful ending
>>282275961>All the villains also seem to be pulled from 70s disco ads. Which look completely nonsensical considering the story takes place at around the covid outbreak of 2020.This is a weird complaint to have in a JoJo manga I'm gonna be honest
>>282262195>>282262216>>282268163>>282269560The reason Stone Ocean's production was a shitshow was likely to do with how big Urusei Yatsura was for DP and all focus from their production companies was on that instead, as it was a major marketing/merch moment.Stone Ocean on the other hand, is the least popular part of JoJo and the one most disliked within Japan. It's basically the complete opposite of UY for the suitsA fair number of Part 5 staff, for example, diverted to UY in that time, and that is likely the cause for SO's odd release schedule as batches (this was likely done at the behest of WB since SO itself took several years to complete).
>>282261479They're going to censor Gyro's misogyny
>>282274908lol, SBR had low sales. Golden Wind is 2nd most popular part after Stardust.
>>282271406>>282272952>>282282770.>>282279249Is UY any good?
>>282282833It's a well produced series, but not as good as the original run.
>>282283008I never watched the original, but I kind of liked Ranma.
>>282282833I'ts really good, second season felt way better and i liked the ending.
>>282282833>kakyoin that high on stands and saddest deathslol, 100% inflated by fujos. Guy was kicked out of the story in part 3. Gyro’s death mogs his
>>282284731>GyroA character also loved by fujos?
>>282270284SO is the least popular part both in Japan and the west. It felt like DP rushed so and gave it less resources that normal and it still came out decent. I feel like they know how popular sbr is everywhere and it gives me hope it at least matches the quality of 5.
>>282261479>DP fumbles Stone Ocean>people forget about the anime because of batch release>everyone seems too focused on Netflix killing muh hype to notice the bad anime itselfPart of me thinks this is actually their strategy. Leaving adaptations that they know won't meet expectations to rot in batch release limbo, and let Netflix take the fall.
They had better release each episode weekly. I want to talk about it more than watch it.
>>282261479Netflix didn't ruin Stone Ocean. Being the worst part ruined Stone Ocean
>>282261479Not if I have anything to say about it.
>>282289891>the worst partAre you going to defend JoJoLion rn fr no cap?
>>282262134Netflix didn't make them cheap out on animation and other aspects of production. They just made a retarded release schedule that could have been pushed back on at any time.
>>282290906The worst part so far. Are you happy now?
>>282285933Popularity is a bad metric. I think it's more important to meet expectations. And expectations for SBR being good are much higher than anyone was hoping for SO.You'd hope that wouldn't matter but
>>282290984VA exists
>>282291108Vento Aureo is shounenkino and it's the second most popular part in Japan
>>282291154>Vento Aureo is shounenkinoWrong>and it's the second most popular part in JapanRight
>>282291154>Vento Aureo is shounenkinoRight>and it's the second most popular part in JapanRight
>>282261720If it's 39 episodes it'll definitely be shit. That's not enough for the entire thing.
>>282261479I hope it's bad because Part 7 fans can be slightly obnoxious online occasionally
>>28229269724 volumes absolutely can't fit into 39 episodes. They couldn't even if they tried.
>>282268163Netflix can fund stuff too, they only care about minorities and money
>>282293028That would make them even more obnoxious though
>>282261479How will netflix handle jesus?
>>282294117His new name is Jeff. Jeff Christ. Everybody uses poison suction cup darts instead of bullets. Pocoloco is white.
>>282294117Netflix only distributes the anime. They have no say in the production unless proven otherwise.
>>282294210kek
>>282261479Yep
>>282272865sex
>>282279249I actually was kind of worried for Part 6 when it looked like DP was investing more into Urusei Yatsura. Cause the trailers made it look really nice. DP was pretty much telling the staff to do more of that instead of Stone Ocean.
>>282262216A scapegoat. They should be blaming WB and DP for the poor production, direction, animation, and everything wrong with the SO anime.
>>282261720DID SOMEBODY SAY CGI HORSES?
>>282271836I rate the character dynamic and plot above part 8 at this stage of both stories. But battle wise, it hasn't been as hype as Born This Way and the beetle bet for my liking. It has potential to be a top 5 part if it doesn't fall, provided the current cast of "bad guys" don't become cartoonishly incompetent or fall harder than their build-up.
>>282279249I never really looked it up because I'm indifferent about part 6, but it's the only jojo part not directed by the main director who's been doing it since part 1
>>282261479Even if it wasn't being released on Netflix it'd be ruined, theres absolutely no way in hell that David Productions (or honestly any studio on a TV budget/timeframe IMO) would be able to make SBR without it becoming a fucking nightmare to animate because of the more detailed art, story length, and most importantly, the constant presence of horses in almost every scene, its beyond what could even be reasonably cropped out of shots.We saw pretty clearly that DP couldn't even handle part 4 without it dipping into some genuinely terrible looking animation as it went on, so you know SBR is going to look like absolute garbage from episode 2 or 3 onwards at best.
>>282300329part 4 is not as popular as part 3 and part 5 in japan and that's why it didn't get as many resources as those adaptations.
>>282300344part 7 isn't as popular as 3 or 5 either.
>>282262195>>282262216netflix can do batch release, so it's still netflix's fault for giving them this choicenetflix is involved although not directly
>>282300348but it's also way more popular than part 4 and part 6
>>282300371not according to >>282282833 (at least in regards to part 4)
>>282300385I see. If that's the case then I don't get why this adaptation is being made in the first place.I guess JoJo as a whole is popular enough to warrant it but that still makes me worried about the quality of the show.For all we know this could be just another cashgrab just like the Stone Ocean anime.
>>282300415Honestly even if it WAS as popular as 3 or 5 I wouldn't be looking forward to it, DP fumbled the animation quality at least a bit in each season, especially when it comes to the TV release versions compared to the BD's.
>>282293028>can be slightly obnoxious online occasionallyImagine being so petty and terminally online that you wish an upcoming adaptation is bad because you don't like how the fans of that adaptation's source material behave online and want them to feel disappointed.
>>282300344>part 4 is not as popular as part 3 and part 5funnily enough, part 4 is more pooular at least with the actual fanbase now.
>>282300491Good. That part is honestly better than both Stardust Crusaders and Vento Aureo imo
Things to note:>The Jojosapiens ranking everybody uses as basis was based on the data of 17k users that not necessarily live in Japan, around 2018. One of the reasons Golden Wind comes at the top is due the hype for the then upcoming anime.Still, i think 85% if not more were japanese.>Golden Wind sold around +10m copies (unfortunely source site is down so i cannot confirm)>Steel Ball Run sold around +7m copies and supposedly didn't sell as well as the rest of the parts (Stone Ocean included). And yes Jojolion sold pretty good.SBR can get an awful or decent adaptation regardless of the sales back then, from what i've seen SBR is performing very decently with the VIZ volumes too. SBR is also #2 in MAL. And all of the recent trailers have a gained a decent fraction of viewers in comparison with the previous parts before SO. It'd be stupid for DP to fumble this part so bad like they did with Jolyne, they got not excuse this time around too:>No pandemic>Competent directors and design artistIf SBR turns out to be shit DP has all the blame lol
>>282262134Batch won't ruin anime.Kimetsu Infinity Castle movie is kinda batch too.Stone Ocean flopped because quality was horrible and worst favored part in the series.
>>282300691>And yes Jojolion sold pretty good.To be fair, it probably was benefiting a lot from the anime's popularity. Watch part 9 sales increase when SBR releases (if it's weekly).
man who the fuck is this dick riding shillkill yourself bumass fag
>>282300371>>282300385That poll was conducted after Part 4 got animated
>>282261479Definitely
>>282261479>Will Netflix ruin [insert thing here]The answer is always yes. There isn't anything they haven't ruined.
>>282271836Paco's manga is far, far superior to Jojolion.
Next TLJ drops tomorrow?
>>282303314I could see Paco ending up as the equivalent of Bucciarati where Jodio/Giorno is the main character in name only. He's the only one who feels like a person so far.>>282303254The worst things they can do in this context are remove weekly discussions and make bad subs which can be easily fixed. It's a question of whether DP gets lazy with the animation like all of Stone Ocean
>>282303415In two days.
>>282262216netflix has a bad rap ever since they made draculas son a faggot in Castlevania. They also pozz the everloving shit out of their self-produced works on a regular basis, the only streaming service that pozzes their product worse is probably Amazon Prime.I'm still confused as to why there is still a total anti-white, marxist dominion of media in the west, even in 2025, even with all this vicious competition between streaming services. They'd rather go broke making hateful goyslop than actually make products people want to watch it seems.
I think I've become under the effects of Wonder of U
>>282280440It wasn't even misogyny, Was a superstition that ended up being true and costed him his life. But I do think they will censor the several rape threats to Lucy somehow
>>282304043> even in 2025Stuff like series and movies take years to make, so when they are out with politics in mind they are outdated by release
>>282262577the fact that you're asking this question means that you're missing the point
>>282308618I just wanted to know what /a/ thinks about him
>>282304043>I'm still confused as to why there is still a total anti-white, marxist dominion of media in the west, even in 2025You know the answer...
Maybe when the anime is out I'll draw again
>>282261741same
>>282291268based
>>282261479Yes. We should just read the manga again
>>282291268correct take
>>282262577There are countries other than America that matter so no. Ultimately, Johnny (or maybe Lucy?) saved the world by foiling Valentine's plan
Thoughts on this dub casting?
>>282315433They are incomprehensible
>>282315433They should get ProZD to voice Ringo.
no
>>282317863hopeful anon
Diego is my favorite SBR character
>>282319661Based
>>282261479I wonder what the hardest part to animate will be
>>282321648The first race is gonna look fucking painful. Literally hundreds of horses. Expect multiple episodes of nothing but CGI
>>282321990What if they will use stills and limited animation instead?
Next Jojolands Chappy when?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
>>282322847Tomorrow's Tomorrow. A JJK leak might satiate you in the meantime
>>282271836story wise much much better than part 8but the battles aren't that spectacular other than some paco scenesthe main villain might be getting some juicy development
>>282321648Aside from the horses, who aren't that present aside from the start, D4C ability and the corpse shenanigans are hard to imagine animated
>>282321990First impression is everything, and the first chapters of SBR were pretty rough.If the first race episode looks that awful then its over for SBR anime and JoJo as a whole.
>>282315433I feel like Charlie would unironically kill it as Johnny
The Oyecomova fight will also be a pain in the ass to adapt, with Johnny and Gyro riding their horses non-stop and sequences like the waterfall one which is gonna feel dragged in audiovisual form.
>>282311983Draw more TJL
>>282322045that would look like dogshit
>>282265644That's fair.
>>282322045It's probably what's going to happen. People who expect CGI in large-scale/dynamic scenes seem to forget that DP is not afraid of powerpoint animation, which is much easier for them to do.
>>282315433I guess some of them are actual actors at least
>>282262199You will not ragebait me
>>282261479Netflix ruins everything so yes
>>282261479They did already
Are horses really that hard to draw? Sure they have 4 legs, but their legs are just little bent sticks
>>282329635The problem is they're naked. If you watch a naked animal run, you can see the muscles and joints moving under their skin. This is hard to animate accurately, especially since most animators spend most of their time animating a different animal. You can half-ass it, like most animation does with everything else, but people can just tell it looks wrong.I think everyone exaggerates how difficult/crappy-looking it is, but you can't really argue with people's personal tastes.
>>282261479Yes, that's what they do
>>282261479I expect like stone ocean it will have parts that are passably well-animated (enough for misleading promotional material) that then randomly degenerates to ps2 tier 3d models
>>282315433HORSELESS JOCKEY
>>282304043>marxist dominion of media in the westthat doesnt even make sense, shit panders to liberal economically safe progressive policies that are already popular with huge chunks of the population, the only genuinely marxist piece of media with any amount of relevancy from the last 10 years i can even think of is disco elysiumnetflix at most banks on the controversy of an out there choice being talked about online to get more eyes on their product but i do not believe that anyone in the multi million dollar company is actually ideologically committed to being "marxist" lol
