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DEEN Illya
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I'm pretty sure her family name is Einzbern bro
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>>282273433
What would she think of Prisma Illya?
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I want to fuck both FATE Illya AND Prillya with the token nigress being forced to watch.
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>>282273433
>hagllya
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For me its Irisviel
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>>282275160
she is not a hag
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>>282273433
Damn how did she get those massive eyelashes?
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>>282273433
I liked DEEN Fate/Stay Night.
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GOON illya
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>>282279470
I liked Unlimited DEEN Works
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>DEEN had better art style and lighting but shit animation.
>Ufotable had better animation but weaker art style and lighting compared to DEEN.
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DEEN worth watching at all? after vn stay night
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>>282273433
cute
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>>282284076
If nothing else it'll give you context for the shitposts, though you do need to make sure you get the correct bad translation. Gilgamesh calling everyone half-breeds instead of mongrels is kinda bewildering.
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>>282284076
Rin x Sakura sibling bonding scene based on the end of Heaven's Feel

bondage Sakura outfit

Archer vs Berserker fight

the scene where Gilgamesh first appears and kills Caster and Souichiro

music like Unmei no Yotsura, Gilgamesh babylonian theme and both openings, the first of them is based on the original VN openings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXw0lL5-vA&list=RDWJXw0lL5-vA&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGKAEaXQoEQ&list=RDnGKAEaXQoEQ&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy7Q77ZD_ME&list=RDQy7Q77ZD_ME&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqtgOuWtbCo&list=RDMqtgOuWtbCo&start_radio=1

the atmosphere felt more mysterious compared to the UBW anime, the HF films and the VN
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>>282284610
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>>282284076
no fate anime is worth watching
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>>282284652
watching fate zero was a hell of a lot more fun than reading the vn
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>>282273433
dino
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>>282286675
just proving that zero fans aren't fate fans
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>>282290325
It's as shallow as a puddle, using explosions and edge to lure in secondaries who will never understand the appeal of fate.
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>>282290410
didn't ask, faggot
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>>282290432
You realize I was talking about zero, right? You're not that fucking stupid, right?
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>>282290469
damn i should have actually read past 'puddle'. my bad.
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>>282284582
>>282284610
>>282284644
What Fate route original scenes could they have added instead of UBW/HF scenes?
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>>282290571
Tachie
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OG Illya a cute
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>>282294449
She wanted to use him to get revenge on Kerry but she developed a crush on him after spending some time with him in the Fate and HF route.
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>>282284610
This is DEEN original?
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>Native isekai franchise
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>>282294583
stfu nigger
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>>282294547
Yes, but Nasu's idea
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>>282294547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC9k2glHvzY
Yes.
Caster was defeated outside by Gil in the Fate route and Souichiro was never revealed as her master in the Fate route. The DEEN Stay Night part of Caster, Assassin and Souichiro is based on the UBW route except for Gil killing Caster and Caster never taking over Saber and Archer.
Assassin also wasn't killed together with Caster from what I remember in the VN Fate route. Caster doesn't kidnap Sakura in the VN Fate route.
Caster also creates some fake grail in another building I think it was the Ryuudou Temple in Deen Stay Night. The Temple had some greek ruins for some reason inside in Deen Stay Night.
The bondage is based on the wedding dress part that Caster forced Saber to wear in UBW. Sakura's role in the Deen Caster part is based on HF including the Rin Sakura fight.
Deen Stay Night also ignored the living orphan corpses created by Kirei who only appear in the Fate route of the VN.
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>>282294750
How else could they have made Caster and Kuzuki more involved in Fate route to make it more standalone?
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>>282294547
I think it is implied that Zouken died in Deen Stay Night.
The scene >>282294750
has a flashback of Zouken taking away Sakura from the Tohsaka family. She still has black hair in that flashback.
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>>282294803
>>282294750
Fate route and UBW route were supposed to be two sides of the same coin, so it's not difficult for Nasu to add scenes from Fate route to UBW route and vice versa.

HF was supposed to be two routes in a separate VN, but adding them to Fate route and UBW route just makes it incoherent
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>>282294547
Deen Stay Night also has Illya being alive and well in the end scene with her being on Taiga's motorbike and chaos ensues. But maybe she will still die there because I think I remember it was mentioned in the end of the Fate route that Illya died a few months after the events of the holy grail war?
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>>282294847
Yeah, I've heard it was supposed to be a Sakura and a Illya route on a seperate disc. This is why Illya was like a second heroine in the HF route besides Sakura.
Some Illya scenes in HA the ones in the toy store were also supposed to be in her route. She also wad supposed to have sex scenes but then she didn't even get them in HA. Typemoon had loli sex scenes in Kagetsu Tohya with the cat girl who looks like she was Caster's daughter.
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>>282294867
Other CG drafts:
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>>282294931
Nasu still has the original VN scripts for Sacchin's route, Illya's route and Sakura's route but he'll never release them

We know that Illya's episode in the UBW anime was from her route also.
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>>282294959
>>282294971
Did Takeuchi draw on paper or tablet?
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>>282295287
I think these were original unused CGs for the VN.
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>>282295268
>We know that Illya's episode in the UBW anime was from her route also.
Which one?
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>>282295338
UBW Ep. 15
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Illya likes Sakura but she hates Rin.
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>>282294847
What we know about Illya's route

>Nasu confirmed that Ilya's bird familiars were from the draft

>Nasu: If it's at the land that houses the Holy Grail, then Ilya is indeed that strong. And being able to make a familiar from her hair was in the original draft. The work this time around was especially hard, so I ended up using an "Iri's replacement" approach. By the way, the name of the technique is Elfen Lied [German for Elves' Song, 天使の詩 - Angel's Poem]. The bird's name is Storch Fieseler [German term for a type of plane].

>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella

>At the initial concept stage, the only details we had hammered down about these two maids were their names, their general roles (powerhouse/teacher) and which one would become Illya's Dress of Heaven. We only expanded on these characters when we decided to go ahead with "hollow". Normal homonculi are mostly emotionless like Leysritt, so that illustrates what a unique case Illya is. Leysritt was created as a sample of Illya, and Sella was allowed to live only because she was useful as Illya's tutor. That's about the extent of the specifics we initially had for these characters. When I started writing Sella's part in "hollow", however, she quickly became one of my favourite characters. I like Leysritt too, of course. By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)

>Shirou losing his arm protecting Ilya, the two shopping and her singing, BRING ILLYA BACK, and Nine Lives Revolver were also planned for Illya's route

>Shirou was going to drop his ideal to make amends for Kiritsugu's sins in Illya's route, while the Sakura route focuses on him breaking free of Kiritsugu and becoming his own person. Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route

>Zouken was the final boss
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>>282295382
Thank you!
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>>282295401
>Elfen Lied
kek
The manga predates the FSN VN. Maybe Nasu was familiar with it.

>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella
I think this CG>>282294992
was supposed to be for that scene.

>By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)
Rin confirmed being a false tsundere

>BRING ILLYA BACK
like the fanmade choice edit>>282294931


>Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route
No wonder Illya dislikes her.
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>>282295553
It depends if the Prillya mangaka was aware of that fact. But he seems to have known some secrets.
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>>282295401
The Illya route sounds very interesting.
I wonder how it would have affected the Fate franchise if besides Saber Alter there was also an evil Rin and Shirou had also sex with Sella and Leysritt?
I wonder how different HA would have been if still existed? HA's existance is still very likely in a world with an Illya route because of Kagetsu Tohya.
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DEEN Rin is so hot
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Why are there so many Fate threads today?
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>>282273433
SOVL
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>UBW manga
>Mix in stuff from the Fate route

What's our stance on route mixing?
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>>282295677
much hotter than Takeuchi's Rin and Ufotable's Rin
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I didn't like Deen Stay Night that much when I watched it but now I think it is the best route. The solutions, answers and events of the other routes weren't satisfying.
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>>282292186
Elaborate.
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>>282295287
Tablets weren't even a thing yet back then, anon.
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>>282295511
>>Elfen Lied
>kek
I like where the artist of that went.
Still hoping a little that Fate eventually goes back to its eroge roots in one way or another.
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>>282295401
Where's the hardcore Illya impregnation sex scene?
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>>282296981
Bony hand
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>>282295401
>Maids H scene
Damn, that would've been great. Imagine what the writing for that would've been like, though.
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>>282295553
Explains why he was the best Shirou.
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>>282296981
The cutest loli onee-chan.
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>>282295693
many of the threads are probably made by the same guy
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>>282298374
>Moriyama Daisuke did something with Fate
Picked up.
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>>282295401
>missed out on liz and sella sex
fuck you nasu and where's the illya h scene
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>>282300912
Explain who this guy is and what his other works are like.
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>>282273433
Shes my introduction into wise immortal girls with young bodies
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Love OP1
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>>282302734
For me it's KIRAMEKU NAMIDAAAAAAAAAA WA HOSHI NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>282302775
Best OP in the franchise.
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Just found about the Heaven's Feel manga having sex scenes so I'm image searching in the archives and reading the posts talking about it.
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>>282294931
I can see the leftovers of the Ilya route in the final version but the decision to enter the route in this dialogue choice is odd since it was about Sakura's predicament. Maybe earlier or later during the shopping instances would be more appropriate.
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>>282295397
Is there an explaination for why Illya is fine with Sakura being Shirou's girl but not with Rin?
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>>282294867
>>282294959
>>282294971
>>282294992
sovl
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>>282306291
Sakura's a pushover who can be pressured into a threesome whereas Rin has enough personality to actually have preferences and desires.
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>>282295784
Since Fate and UBW are very similar, they're basically fine to mix since they don't really contradict or take away from the scenes of one another. If it's something like mixing UBW with HF then it's a problem.
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>>282306486
Funny answer but a serious one pls.
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>>282294449
Would I get ghost hero powers? Or just a maid outfit?
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>>282306563
It probably has to do with magus and family rivalry. Illya understands that Sakura doesn't give a shit about that and wouldn't use magecraft to gain an advantage over Shirou.
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>>282306291
Illya has sympathy for Sakura because she's like her (groomed to be a sacrifice for the Holy Grail).
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>>282284076
If you've read the vn it's very much worth watching.
It's the only adaptation that keeps the horror vibe. The soundtrack is great too.
Big problem is how they added parts of the UBW route to the story along with anime original content hinting at HF stuff.
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>>282306486
>Sakura's a pushover who can be pressured into a threesome
>He didn't read the VN
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>>282290469
>takeuchi will never draw another bratty loli ever again
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>>282290410
You say this as if Fate fans don't jerk off edgy endings like Mind of Steel and say it should have been the canon ending
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>>282310129
>It's the only adaptation that keeps the horror vibe.
Any scenes as examples for that?
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>>282311589
Mind of steel has some fans, but the only bad ending that gets serious praise is sparks liner high. Even then it's more a few posters asking for an adaptation of it instead of thinking of it as a proper ending. Also mind of steel lost cool points once Kiritsugu's character was revealed to be a manchild in zero, as well as it being associated with the FGO bald nigger archer who uses guns.
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>>282311589
You mean a small vocal minority within the fate fanbase.
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>>282298374
Why did the MC start to look so creepy in the last couple chapters of this thing?
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>>282295553
I don't know about that. In Prillya, Kerry gave up on his ideals to save Iri and Illya so it's not like Shirou doing the same thing with Miyu is unprecedented for the setting.
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>>282312052
I'm not really sure what you mean by this reply. Could you spell it out for me?
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>>282305859
thats a lot of cum...
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>>282305859
How is modern TM fine with this?
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>>282273433
Deen/Stay Night is the best Fate anime adaption, anyone saying otherwise is wrong and should kill themselves immediately!
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>>282311880
You mean that arc?
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>>282312513
I don't know, I took a peek of the manga because people around here said that the art was hot and when I looked at the recent chapters the MC looked creepy as fuck despite looking normal earlier on. So that was a temporary thing?
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>>282312592
Maybe it's just his new shorter haircut.
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>>282313101
The eyes, dude. The eyes.
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>>282311675
Horror might not be the right word.
But this scene in episode 1 gets the feeling across beautifully. The scene of Illya warning Shirou and telling him to summon his servant already comes right afterwards.
Really makes it feel like once night time arrives, things get unpredictable and dangerous with the servants roaming around.
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>>282313216
Urban fantasy.
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>>282313335
Yeah, Fate is one of the prime examples of Urban fantasy, too bad urban fantasy isn't as popular as how once it was.
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>>282305859
Good timing, it just got to Sakura's scene, time to shill it again
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>>282313643
What woman on Earth has sex with a bra on?
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>>282313656
Can't show that in a Christian manga!
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>>282295401
Fate was really going to be packed.
Nasu and Takeuchi initially planned routes for Shinji, Caster (loli) and Rider too. Some of the original dialogue, which afterwards would've given player the choice of choosing the route, are still present in F/SN.
And then there was going to be a whole another Servant class called Shielder. I guess this character design was basis for Mash's design.

Nasu really should make a remake of F/SN. He's going to deliver us Sacchin route, so why not an Illya route too? Maybe going back to basic Fate is impossible now, with F/GO expanding the lore of Fate to immeasurable lengths
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>>282313762
It's not going to happen.
He hasn't even finished the Tsukihime remake yet, even though it was released four years ago.
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>>282313643
Did not know this manga was still ongoing.
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>>282313762
>And then there was going to be a whole another Servant class called Shielder. I guess this character design was basis for Mash's design.
IIRC the appearance of Shielder and her master was a twist they came up for the original DEEN anime but ended up not using. And IIRC this idea was used for Mash in F/GO.



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