Slow.Life.Adventure.Anime.
>>282365862Nothing ever happens.
>>282365862Has the elf been bred and enslaved yet by the mizu magician?
We could have skipped the first half of the episode.
Next episode is the last one but the MC barely appears>>282365862https://to-corona-ex.com/comics/206959066939569Slow life manga
>Half the episode is a flashback for a character we'll never see againFuckign FUMING.
Budget went into animating the early 1-2 episode's water spells...
>>282365862why do nips have such a hardon for useless flashbacks?
>>282367808Dont you feel totally emotional about Oscar now? Pleasu gaijin, have harto.
Did they forget the woman still alive cowering in the back lol
>>282367808Need to build them up to knock them down.Super famous fire wizard is going to get downed by those 3 mooks due to Ryo's training.
So Oscar got stabbed through the abdomen/spine, walked it off at the cost of his hair going grey?
>>282367974*ends up in a shore a few kilometers away*>>282368038the light on that beach is so strange, it was way darker in the city, here it looks like it's about to dawn
So... we can all agree this is WAOTS, right?
>>282367788Same, honestly. Wasted 10 minutes of the episode on it.
Was that a Ryo ice shield that protected her from the volcanic eruption?
da fuck is thiswasted time on the ep
Made some stitches.
>>282368244It was to show Boskona's and Poche's backstory. They're the guys attacking the castle.
>>282367788wow good thing i didnt put the raw on before coming itt.tempered expectations can be good.
>>282368161Ice wall? Impossible.
bro, oofthat ended in an awkward way
Last stitch.
Turns out the whole isekai was actually a game world.
>>282365862It is slow as fuck for sure. The pacing is terrible.
>>282367927Yeah, like just close the fucking door or light a fire. It's fucking wolves. They didn't even check if the mom was actually dead. First 10 mins sucked.
GOT YOU
SERA?!!
>Get blasted 5km away>Survive>In the time it takes you to fly there, the fire cuck ranDid he blast himself over as well?
>>282367788>>282367808>author writes WN>publishers pays author to adapt it into LN>publisher asks author to write "bonus content" for LN>hack author writes shitty flashback for literally who side charactertrue story
>>282368282I dont like this painting-like background effect, makes the flat still even more flat and without any depth.
>>282365862I didnt read the novel or manga, I dont even fucking care, but i'm sure this is bad adaptation. You cant possible fuck another week. People will just drop, wont care, wont sell. FUck the studio and director who is doing this garbage.
>>282368859It would be nice if it was at least consistent but it's there sometimes, sometimes it's not. Plus the filter or whatever the fuck it is looks kinda shitty.
>>282366853In today's episode of "Nothing ever happens": EVERYTHING FUCKING HAPPENS!!!
They are going to announce S2 next week, right?
>>282368733checked; this episode was a mess. That castle should have been right overlooking the beach for any of the characters to be at the same place at the same time.Princess just tanked a magical volcano to the face because force fields and shit? And healer lad just had his repeating ballista on his person during a casual night of sightseeing the town festivities.Inferno magicians backstory of suffering became almost comical with:> vandals attacking his village massacring his mom and dad, >followed by feral wolves mauling the remaining villagers and killing his blacksmith master 2nd father figure> culminating in a 3rd father figure being introduced and brutally murdered in the span of 4 minutes by the same bandit leader from Inferno Magician earlier youth using his father sword>also he gets impaled and left to die in a burning building, but next scene he walks it off and his hair turns gray because of trauma or some other contrivance
why are there things on the screen that are not qt boi with elf or dullahanI skip everything that is not that
>>282369535the season is almost over so they need muh plot too hook you on reading the sourceas if anyone would do that with such an advertising
>>282369487Unfortunately he's a water magician, not a water vending machine, so I doubt it
>>282369510>And healer lad just had his repeating ballista on his person during a casual night of sightseeing the town festivities.They all had their weapons on them so it's not unreasonable to assume that's just something you do.But yeah his backstory was silly. The bandits are fucking weird. They lose like half their band over that shitty village, barely have time to loot anything if there is even anything to loot, almost immediately fuck off. Good job, retard bandit-sama. Then, the same shit with the mansion a few years later. Doesn't seem like they really looted it, just stabbed everyone and fucked off. I almost expected that fucker to appear during the party raid and go all HEH on everyone again.
>>282369510>>also he gets impaled and left to die in a burning building, but next scene he walks it off and his hair turns gray because of trauma or some other contrivancetihs was so fucking weird>>282368733btw, is the guy who saved her supposed to be super strong or what? because he caught her like if she was light as fuck, no impact or nothing else
SHIT episode
>>282367033>Killing a perfectly rapeable milfFucking amateur
>>282370455>raping a mom in front of her childNo.
>>282370406shit series
>>282368739many such cases
>>282369510>>282370040Knights came. They healed him, but seeing another father figure get killed made him denounce god, so he lost his red hair.
Feels like this anime is a butchered ver of the novel but whatever, what chapter does ep 11 correspond to? I'll just binge read from there.
>>282367991he used THAT to trade HP for lifespan
i fucking swear to god this anime should be called the blue ball magician. that SINGLE sweet fight between Ryo and the akuma was literally just a tease and the rest of the show basically pretends MC doesn't even exist! Whats the point of a power fantasy where the mc never does shit
>>282368434The first raid was brutal and good setup but the second raid was just absurd to the point of hilarity, I couldn't take it seriously after that.
>>282371007I think the same about his romance with the air mage girl.
>>282371007this shit is isekai OPM with how the MC obnoxiously orbits the actual story without ever intervening
>>282371117Office of personnel management?
>>282371137one punch man...
>>282368659OUR FUARKING HEROESRyo who?
i miss the slow life segments
>>282368038So is Nils now obligated to marry her?
>>282368574is that her shield breaking or was it Ryo's ice?
>>282371427looks like it was Ryo's ice to me. Just got to that scene
>>282365862There's slow, then there's whatever the fuck this is.
>raid a village>get kek'd out of pillaging it by wolvesbeing bandit is hard work
>>282371791>get a sword out of it>maybe a few random spoils and food>don't even take women as slaves>lose half your men>get cucked by wolvesSomehow this bandit nigga is still doing fine
I thought it was just a bad adaptation but I've started reading the WN from where ep 11 left off and the source material isn't much better.
I'm starting to think this anime was made purely for money laundering purposes.
>>282368511not that I really care butHow did he survive getting stabbed through his upper body and then just went along his way
Gotta say, this show follows a very innovative formula.>things keep happening>MC never does anything, is never present, does not participate, just reads books in the library and eats festival food in the eveningLet's not forget>half the episode is some random side character's childhood back story, as if anybody gives a shit>at this point we know more about how random dude grew up than the MCAnd also>princess gets fucking blasted 5km away>the tremendous energy needed to throw a person this far away has still apparently left her unharmed>MC's low level adventurer buddy saves her by just catching her in his arms as if she just tripped on the last 2 steps of the staircaseI usually don't bother too much with these obviously extremely budget, generic shows but holy fuck man, this shit's bad.
The funniest part is how throughout the show, post count was directly correlated to the amount of elf in the episode, there are only two characters the audience actually wants to see and both of them barely show up
>>282373261Abel and Sera?
>>282371877It's meh until Ryo went to other countries
I downloaded Ryo, The Water Magican - why is Oscar, The Fire Magician being played? Did they mix them up at the store???
Is giving a sword to a 6 year old the best of ideas?
>>282373543Crunchydrool fucked up again; wait for V2s to come out.
>>282373543yo this ep was fire
goddamn it woman you only need to do ONE thing with a spear and that's poke it into the enemy from a distance and you fucked that up
>useless broad 2 in the back pissing herself instead of shanking the guy while he had his hands full great now they're all going to die because you couldn't manage the even the bare minimum of teamwork
>>282373706fuck you i laughed
>>282368659Where was he hiding that crossbow?
>>282370539Name 3
>the bandit is telling me to follow him, guess i'll do that what's the worst that could happenbruh
>>282373845Sleeve of Holding.
>here's the plan kid, go run swim down a river while i feed myself to this pack of wolves to keep em distractedthis village is full of geniuses
>kindly taken in by some old geezer>he also gets attacked there toothis kid is fucking cursed
2 bandit attacks in 1 flashback? riveting stuff
>casually impale childyears of schooling did fuck all for his sword skills i see
>>282373891TearmoonIsekai RyouridouKnights and MagicStrongest StarshipAnd probably way more I've scrolled through completely unnecessary literally who "bonus" epilogues and side stories and forgotten
>it's the exact same fucking bandit as last timehow the hell does he keep finding this kid
>stabbed? simply just walk it off by wandering into the nearest dark forest
whole lotta murder and pillaging this epabsolute 0 ryo too for that matter, what the fuck
thanks for your astute observations captain obvious
I really feel bad for the author.The manga "artist" is probably the biggest hack I've ever seen. He's so proud of his shitty Blender models and forcing them into the fucking work for some perverse reasons while chicken scribbling the rest of the characters in voids.I hoped the fucking anime would've at least made sense but that shit is a travesty as well.I feel like this whole thing had potential somewhere at the start of dude with his bro in the middle of nowhere going back to civilization.Switching the focus away from the MC to useless side characters every story part literally kills any sort of interest to the whole thing.
>strolls past episode 11
>>282374460AIEEEEE COME BACK THIS SHIT IS INTOLERABLE WITHOUT YOU
>i cast active fucking volcanooof, i don't think fiona survived that
so the mansion is pretty far away
and she got blasted all the way down to beach miles away, flying through the air and she's just fine being caught by another humanthe impact should have flattened them both into the sand right
BOOM HEADSHOT
>>282374460To be honest, if she wasn't designed and voiced so well, people wouldn't be losing their shit about herYou can't guess what character is going to be adapted well when you're writing the source material
>>282374432Why would you feel bad for the author when everything after the manga "artist" line is the author's fault?
>>282374432>I really feel bad for the author.What do you mean? The source material is the problem, those issues you highlight are straight from the source.
>>282374570I gotta confess...I don't want to fuck an elf.
>>282374432>Switching the focus away from the MC to useless side characters every story part literally kills any sort of interest to the whole thing.You can pick just about any other isekai story then. The MC is the most boring part of this story.
>>282374640
>>282374570maybe if she didn't get half the OP and the entire ED I wouldn't think she's an important character
Why Oscar backstory?
>>282374543>>282374556
>>282374862So people can skip it and not waste time watching the whole ep
>>282369510I just assumed Ryo was being hidden batman and saved her with an ice wall. Episode was a definite low point though. It should have just been Sera being cute for 10 minutes instead.
>>282365862why doesn't he discover magic crystals until the mountains when he's been hunting and processing game for months in the forest?
>>282375114why wasn't every cheese maker in medieval times also making plastics in medieval times if they were around milk and vinegar all day?didn't fucking think of it.
>>282375180but surely he'd find the crystals and wonder wtf they were
didn't even finish the episode. too boring
>>282375196not everyone is smart with magic crystals.would he know to melt a rare one and tattoo it on himself to gain power?
>>282375180Plastic made from milk and vinegar is utter dogshit, useless for anything except bragging that you made plastic.
>>282374862Padding so they can end at a point they want I guess.
>hurr durr why backstory of this important character and not the water magician one shotting a monster againI hate you guys sometimes
>>282373681kek
>>282375287true to be honest, i made some but had zero use cases for i--- actually no, i use one piece to support my ps/2->usb plug. this piece of shit would have deformed and snapped by now.
>>282375301>he's important because uhhhhh
>>282375301this fucking trash ends next week and will never be talked about again.Wasting half an episode on a useless flashback not related to the MC, his Warrior bro or the fucking Elf is retarded.
>>282375301we could have had ryo giving the tiny magician ice wall lessons but nooo, let's characterize a grey mob from another country
>>282375470It will get an S2.
>>282375470Just watch Scooped Up by an S-Rank Adventurer!
>>282374627>>282374629I feel bad for the nigger because both his mango and anime flopped hard. Sure the source material sucks but the manga artist and the director&studio sucked even bigger dicks than the author.
>>282375301The guy only seem important because of the shitty SS in the LN and if you take that part out he's just a minor character that have no relevance to the story
>>282375606But I already watch it
AOTS
>>282375612Are you a troll or just retarded? This is the isekai with the second highest ratings after Shit Hero this season.
>>282365862Why didn't she throw her fireworks at an angle?
>>282374460She's not coming back, is she?
Would have worked better as a regular fantasy story without the MC.
>>282365862I've endured 11 episodes of this slop and it embodies everything wrong with Light Novel adaptations and Isekai. There is no fucking story, or characters, or overarching reason any of these things happen. Things just happen. The stereotypical cutouts defined only by which magical power they have respond to those things, and then the story proceeds as if the previous things that happened didn't happen. So new things can happen.This has been 11 episodes of disjointed events happening with no rhyme or reason as to why each one is happening or why we are being presented with the information on screen. This episode embodies it: So the Infernal Mage guy had a tragic childhood. How is this important to either anything we've seen, any of the characters we currently know, or Ryo himself? I'm sure in the Light Novel this is important maybe 200 chapters later, but we have one episode left. This is the embodiment of this show so far. How has the Great Tidal Bore been consequential to the plot? It filled three episodes of filler, and that's the actual unironic answer. It was more disjointed things to happen to our cardboard characters.And then, when something cool DOES happen, it gets swiftly swept under the rug with Isekai tropes that every single one of these shows have already done, and does it worse. The idea that Ryo is so powerful that a city-destroying Akuma is his only match is a fantastic premise. That Akuma should have been front and center of this show. And I'm sure she is very important in the LNs, on like Chapter 3000 after Ryo spends 2500 of it dully wandering around commenting on the texture of food around town.For fuck's sake they have no goddamn clue how to adapt any of these things to animation. Nobody does. This is the ultimate sin of these adaptions is that the author wants to sell books, but the animation director wants to tell a story. So in the end, neither gets done. Do these things really help the books sell? This is anti-advertising.
>>282376570How could she? There's likely one, maybe two episodes left and they chose to piss it away talking about this guy who isn't even Ryu's opponent. the whole thing with the Bandit would have been better done around mid-season, not now. This is annihilating any interest this show could have because dumb ugly bastard bandit who is so cool and rapes and kills so many people isn't as good of an antagonist as any of the other antagonists we've seen, and we've only seen maybe 3 or 4. Can we please go back and stretch the Demon Prince fight to be maybe two episodes long instead of this crap?
>These guys aren't dressed like the bandits>there are some bandit corpses nearby>let's antagonize them
>>282374432Wow, this is the worse shit I've ever seen. There's bad art, then there's souless CG art. This is bad, budget, souless CG art.
>>282376675Elves anon.It's been discussed a variety of times that the lack of sera proves things are shit, and quite frankly it's unsurprising.Compare this sort of bromance to something like heavy object. The difference is every episode of that show had attractive women, even if the show was as formulaic as this.tl;dr: sexAlso I realized at the end I kinda rambled and didn't answer your question: from what I have heard from other anons the source material is also terribly bland, so your comments of telling a story when the story is mediocre is spot on.The vast majority of "good" novels are already adapted, studios are left fighting over trash.
>>282376939>Compare this sort of bromance to something like heavy object. The difference is every episode of that show had attractive women, even if the show was as formulaic as this.The show would unironically be so fucking good if it were just Ryo and Able walking around annihilating god-tier threats and I am serious. The first three episodes were great. I thought the Akuma was great. I thought the idea of another Hero magician being Ryo's antagonist is great. We've suddenly put all of this in a blender and come out with the worst of all world's. And it wouldn't have been needed if we just had an editor who told the LN guy "Hey we need to change and rearrange some things, hope you're okay with that" because it's clear this story was never made to be consumed bite-sized. There's a a massive overarching story and by taking this chunk out of it with all the discoordination, it's been a huge disservice to everything that's happened in the show.
>>282376788He's a hot-head, anon.
>>282377070>Ryo and Able walking around annihilating god-tier threats does that even happen in the novels?
>>282377194I don't know and I really, really not sure I care. The first few episodes where they went on a long journey would have been a way better premise to focus on than anything regarding the Tidal Bore.
>>282376788We could get into his motivations in general and realize why he is a terrible character in general on top of being a terrible bodyguard >I can instantly annihilate everything I look at, so let's slowly walk through the venue >I saw signal flares, so let's delay as long as possible with checking places I know the flares are not >I'm on bodyguard duty, so let's not be anywhere near where my escorts are >I have childhood trauma that surely everyone knows about that is debilitating in combat, but sure, put me by the Princess' side. What could pawsibly go wrong?add it all up for a terrible excuse for a final boss. Would have been cooler if Ryo somehow got caught up with the assassins or was suspected as being one, and was confronted by him personally instead of him having a huuuuuuuuuge misunderstanding.
>>282376675>all isekai are bad but I can't recall the name of even a single one because... ugh... they all, uhm... blend together in my mind because they are the same or something! >all isekai are the same but I can't name a single pair of "identical" isekai>all isekai have the exact same tropes like [list of gookchink tropes, including systemshit and regressors], why are the hecking japs and nips so bad at writing?>all isekai have the same story but I don't recall what that same story is... b-but they are all the same story, I-I swear! >multiverse-scale isekai aspect isn't deeply interwoven in the main plot of the first half of the first volume of the 25-50 LN volumes story? JUST remove the isekai aspect because it doesn't matter! >plot points stretching beyond the current season of the anime adaptation is bad writing >all isekai are about being summoned by a kingdom to save them from the demon lord, gathering a harem party, killing the demon lord and returning home >The first "modern" isekai is SAO/a ZnT-fanfic/a Disgaea-fanfic! Someone on the internet told me, so it must be true!
This is such a pointless adaptation. Especially because we'll never get a second season. Why even make a straight adaptation like this and not fix the horrendous pacing? If anything interesting is happening, the MC is miles away. It's not even a great cock tease, it's just a puzzling and frustrating watch. One of the biggest mysteries of the season.
In the end, was this better than Magic Maker?
>>282375548Bullshit. Why the fuck would this get a second season?
>>282377672Who are you quoting?
>>282377855I will say this, Magic Maker, as bad and utterly bizarre as it is, at least follows the MC and tries to deliver a proper(????) story. Water Magician has nothing at all.
>>282377672>all isekai are bad but I can't recall the name of even a single one because... ugh... they all, uhm... blend together in my mind because they are the same or something!You're literally in the thread of an Isekai you fucking dumbass.
>>282377855That's a tough one. I'm going to say Magic Maker has a good premise just poor execution, which is common with LN adaptations because making your own execution is effectively making your own story, which isn't the LN they're trying to advertise. They walked a tight rope and fell. This.. This is just bad on a fundamental level. I'm not even sure the LN could save this story in the current state it is in because every little thing about it is bad. It has good moments bookended with awful moments and there is no way to pick the bad from the good because of how meshed together good and bad even are. The whole thing, as a structure, stinks.
>>282375300This is probably the most subversive show ever made and I'm being successfully mindfucked by it to the point where it is occupying way, way, way more brain real estate than it deserves. Just imagine that: a story where nothing fucking happens has unironic padding episodes. What a wild fucking ride.
>>282377672All of those are true. All Isekai are pretty much like this with bits and pieces swapped and the ones that aren't are the defining ones of the genre. Next.
>>282376675>The idea that Ryo is so powerful that a city-destroying Akuma is his only match is a fantastic premise.You are brown.
>>282378042>>282378113what is water magician identical to?
>>282378096>. Just imagine that: a story where nothing fucking happens has unironic padding episodes. What a wild fucking ride.Sounds like the averace brainstorming session in this board for what "good isekai" looks like minus the used goods worship, what are you whining about.
>>282378165I'm not sure what you're trying to say at all.
>>282378142he is a shonentard yes
>>282378227But the anime is shonenbait. So why would you blame anon for having that expectation?
>>282378142Whiter than you jamal. >>282378227This story hinges on the idea of a master magician fighting monsters and it's advertised like that in the description.
>>282378155right off the top of my head from this season alone:It's a really, really shitty Seventh Prince. Going back through my memory on other ones I've seen with identical plots: Pharmacist is almost exactly this premise. Powerful Water magician using his powers for good and finding out he's basically a god. Only, because Pharmacist was made by someone who can write something, there's an actual premise with characters who have goals. Maybe not very good ones but that's more than anyone has ever said about Water Magician.
>>282378218I think he's an insulted loon upset that people are saying this show reflects badly on Isekai in general so he's taken the side of defending it with his life despite never having seen it.
>>282378422>It's a really, really shitty Seventh Prince.Even if it's reincarnation slop about an über powerful mage, at least Seventh Prince has a visual identity. Not to mention that at least it doesn't ignore the MC for the entire season.Also, is Ryo really that powerful? Sure, he fights a babby akuma but the point of that confrontation was to show that he still has a very long way to go. Seventh Prince in comparison is more like One Punch Man.
>>282378422anon, seventh prince is glorified shounen with absurd powerscaling where everything revolves around the mcdo westoids just have mental myopia now or are you watching anime through recapslop?
>>282378575I don't get why you're so intent on defending this anime ITT. What do you expect anons to say exactly? That Water Magician is indeed a very unique kind of trainwreck because of how absurd and unfocused it is?
>>282378575Some people will never understand isekai
>>282376675Most of the adaptations I've seen aren't actually like this. You are right that this basically just meanders and is ultimately about nothing consistent, but other shows aren't actually like this. Even other "slow life" stories are actually about something, whether it's about MC growing food on a farm, or opening a shop or whatever the hell. This one is actually about nothing, things happen randomly with no real connection between them.
>>282378422>Seventh PrinceIt's not fair to compare anything to this. Seventh Prince is the greatest anime of the decade.
The premise is defeating the akumas with the help of his elf waifu
Ha ha ha, metal sparks in my eyes.Is boy going to turn evil after losing everything? >That went wellNo it didn't, it took at least three shots that we saw to drop it.They must have gotten more than one pig seeing how much meat each person is getting during the slideshow.That was quite the leap.>another slideshow with generic sound effectsThey must have made this for about tree fiddy.Wolves can swim just fine.Why do we need to see this whiny bitch cryfail his way to success?There's that faggy crying again.Lol, faggot fall down.A third slideshow.How would a gazebo do much to provide cover when it was just shown the fireballs are able to blow apart a statue enough there is no trace left?A forth slideshow.When there finally is some animation it's QUALITY.She fell that far but because she was caught by some scrub she isn't splattered.What a retarded episode. Worse yet, no elf.
is king jobber some big shot?
>>282378636>Use retarded arguments that would only come from someone that "watches" anime through tiktok clips.>STOP CALLING ME OUT REEEEE
>>282379058Who are you quoting? Are you new to 4channel?
>>282379104>toThis nig thinks he is on /jp/
>>282379104>quotations
>>282374087>Get taken in by royalty>They get killed and the country overthrownThe backstory really set up the KINO reveal.>Be a shitty fire mage, best you can manage is lighting the fire for dinner>Everywhere you go gets attacked by bandits and blown the fuck up>People start associating that level of damage with you>You get called 'the strongest mage' as a result
>>282376939>Compare this sort of bromance to something like heavy object. The difference is every episode of that show had attractive women, even if the show was as formulaic as this.Heavy Object is great, because the 2 idiots are blowing shit up together in a cool waythe sex aspect is just a bonusand yes HO is the first LN ive picked up and probably the last for some while
>>282377855magic maker is much betterthis was fun for the first 5 eps, then lost the track completely
>>282378575>anon, seventh prince is glorified shounen with absurd powerscaling where everything revolves around the mcWhat do you think this anime was? You are a joke.
>>282378516>Also, is Ryo really that powerful? He is the most powerful human, by a longshot. Only legendary elves, gods, and demons compare
>>282379879Name 4 cases in this show where the MC actually had any sort of combat situation/power scaling drama like 7th Prince
>>282378575>anon, seventh prince is glorified shounen with absurd powerscaling where everything revolves around the mcthis is almost exactly what water magician is. the only reason you don't draw the connection immediately is because this show is really, really bad at it. The slow parts don't connect with the fast parts and the fighting is comically bad.
>>282379924>NAAAME OOONE >Here's one>NAAAME FOOUUUUR The DullahanThe AkumaThe Demon PrinceThe Monsters Soon the Infernal Mage That's five, lemme guess, you won't be convinced now unless I name 6 of something?
>>282378575It's the exact same thing in concept. You just don't think about because how each shows execute on it. But it's the same exact shonen faggotry at heart.
>>282367377Getting your peaceful family life disrupted by an easily identifiable bandit chief once is understandable, having it happen over and over again just seems like carelessness.
>>282379956Oh yeah all this and I forgot about the Drakes with Able, the Goblin general, and the skeleton kingI forgot them because they were disjointed events happening and then being promptly forgotten by everyone kind of like most of this story.So that's eight. So now you need to demand that I name 10 of something
>>282379904I've only seen the anime and read the manga, haven't read the LN/WN, so I have absolutely no idea. I've seen 11 episodes of this dogshit and I still have no idea what the power balance is supposed to be in this world.
>>282380001It's not just carelessness, it's shitty writing.It's the same fucking bandit chief and he is even more powerful each time. cmon can't you make more than one evil bandit? he has to be literally following him and for a fact I know he will be here at this one too.
>>282368646It would be great worldbuilding if we're being shown that humans are actually in the food chain out here but they were just regular wolves
>>282371300That was such a fight whoosh JRPG battle
>>282379956>>282378155>>282379924>>282378575Holy shit I just realized, the Monsters was another, completely different show airing this season because THAT one also stars another magic prodigy who doesn't think he's very powreful but is literally the most powerful person in the world. And he also looks identical to RyuThis concept is so overdone I'm being confused by multiple shows airing in the same season.
I'd rather watch a whole episode of the elf's daily life where nothing happens over this
>>282380117This show would be peak if it were just Elf and Ryu's magic adventures and I am serious. I am sick of these other characters.
>>282380025Maybe after they've talked with their fists they'll be able to overcome their differences and go raiding together.
>>282379956>The DullahanThis was more a teach-fight than anything else.Do you think people were just asking for "a fight"?
>>282379928so does the mc of water magician never matter or the plot revolves around him?>>282380082>all isekai are bad but I can't recall the name of even a single one because... ugh... they all, uhm... blend together in my mind because they are the same or something!
>>282380158Who are you quoting?
>>282380130>I want isekai where characters matter instead of just having the plot follow the MC.>NO NOT LIKE THAT, REEEEEEEEEEE
>>282380146>Do you think people were just asking for "a fight"?Follow the comment chain, he asked for shounen moments, he's the faggot trying to tell everyone this isn't a shounen show. >>282380158Dude you're a clown, just accept it. You made some retarded goalposts and are now fleeing from it because it's obvious to anyone who watches this show that this fits the mold of multiple shows airing this season alone. S-Rank adventurer has its own problems but you know what it does right? It actually FOCUSES ON THE MAIN CHARACTER
>>282380180>Follow the comment chain, he asked for shounen moments, he's the faggot trying to tell everyone this isn't a shounen show.So you do think "shounen moment" just means "a fight" lmao.
>>282380001This shit is the best stealth comedy of the season.
>>282380173>NO NOT LIKE THAT, REEEEEEEEEEEGonna agree with the other guy: Who are you quoting? This show's problem is that it doesn't focus on the MC, it's a bizarre mishmash of ideas happening with no conclusion, cohesion, or reason.
>>282380180>S-Rank adventurer has its own problems but you know what it does right? It actually FOCUSES ON THE MAIN CHARACTERso you admit the water magician doesn't focus on the main character and thus it's not similar lmaostop being a kike trying to put everything on the same umbrella because your reading comprehension is that dogshit
>>282380192>So you do think "shounen moment" just means "a fight" lmao.I don't think you know what it means period. You're obviously the other guy ultra-giga-buttblasted that you made a challenge to prove this show is a generic copy of everything else, and now can't answer for it when someone did it.Just read >>282380005 and shut the fuck up, you said something stupid and got slapped.
keikaku doori
>>282380244Bro I think you are getting so pissy you're getting your arguments crossed.You're confusing someone asking you for shounen moments when I'm trying to get you to mention series similar to waterfag.And you just admitted your example is not similar to waterfag at all, funnily enough.
>>282378155Sokushi Cheat.
>>282380211>so you admit the water magician doesn't focus on the main character and thus it's not similar lmaoGod you are a parody of a human. It's like I'm talking to a chatbot programmed to be the stupidest piece of shit ever puked out. The show is named "THE WATER MAGICIAN" it sucks because it doesn't focus enough on "THE WATER MAGICIAN" and advertised itself as a high-action fantasy adventure but then showered its viewers with padding and filler. You're a mentally ill clown because you can't accept this show sucks under any definition you gave it. You're an imbecile, but that's to be expected from someone who likes this show.
>>282380211There is never a sense of narrative intentionality. Only a very acute awareness of the author's incompetence. This is just another bland shonen isekai, anon, it isn't trying to do anything different if you read the ingredients list. It's just really, really bad, that is the only distinguishing feature.
>>282380207This current plot is there to introduce the royals to Ryo, which will eventually tell us more about Abel's situation with them. Also to introduce Oscar, apparently
>>282380272>You're confusing someone asking you for shounen moments when I'm trying to get you to mention series similar to waterfag.I did multiple >>282378422 , and then when you asked for four combat/power scaling here >>282379924 I gave you seven >>282379956 >>282380005 one was from a different show with the same exact premise. Dude you fucked up and said something stupid just accept it. You're not convincing anyone by trying to drag this out by another hour. This could only be made sadder for you if you started singling out individual typos.
>>282380277>>282380309You're literally shitting your diapers trying to argue all LNs (not just isekai) are literally the same while in the same breath arguing waterfag in particular is shit because the MC is effectively irrelevant aside from shounen moments, unlike other series.Do you even realize how oxymoronic that is?
>>282380305>This current plot is there to introduce the royals to RyoThis would have been nice halfway through the season but not now. There's one episode left, we do not care who the royals are. We aren't going to see them ever again and this shit is NEVER getting a second season
>but the main character Is this a shounen fixation?
>>282380309>shounenbab literally too stupid to comprehend basic bitch isekaihave normalfag tourists degraded this far thanks to tiktok or something?
>>282380317>You're literally shitting your diapers trying to argue all LNs (not just isekai) are literally the sameNo I didn't, I never said that. Literally, who are you quoting?
>>282380317@grok what does this mean
>>282380334unironically yes lmaowhenever the plot is not wanking their self insert MC they throw a tantrumand when isekai does it they throw a tantrum anyway because it's le power fantasy and it's only good when shounenslop does it
>>282379956Don't forget the bird in the first episode>Defeat the weak bird>It does a training arc, comes back for round 2>You show the results of your training to beat it again
>>282380317>You're literally shitting your diapers trying to argue all LNs (not just isekai) are literally the same while in the same breath arguing waterfag in particular is shit because the MC is effectively irrelevant aside from shounen moments, unlike other series.who said this? in this whole thread? >>282380334>>282380336>>282380351why are you talking to yourself and who are you quoting?
>>282380343?>>282376675>it embodies everything wrong with Light Novel adaptations and Isekai.
>>282380334The show's name is "THE WATER MAGICIAN". I would think the show would feature THE WATER MAGICIAN instead of 5/12 episodes being about the stupid faggot guild mates while he pals around in the library.
is this dalit pajeet seriously throwing a tantrum because the plot is not sucking ryo's dick 24/7 like on solo gookening or something?
>>282380329>and this shit is NEVER getting a second seasonBullshit. It's my most awaited episode each week, so hopefully it does get a second.
>>282380380It would seem so. Quite baffling.
>>282380363>>You're literally shitting your diapers trying to argue all LNs >>it embodies everything wrong with Light Novel ADAPTATIONSLiterally I think your problem is that you can't fucking read and that has made you horrendously offended because you lack any reading comprehension.>>282380380He's currently shitting himself because he doesn't know what the word 'Adaptation' means.
>>282380363Even assuming you're talking to the same anon, people can have general opinions about a certain topic without adopting maximalist positions. Is this new to (You)?
>>282380380Looks like it.Guess isekai is too high brow for the average shitskin, which would explain a lot about online discourse the past 5 years or so mind you.
>>282367064>>282367096>first time it happensoh, that's messed up>>282367377>second timenow it's just funny
>>282380380You can have a great show that's about everyone surrounding the main character, but it doesn't: >>282376675It doesn't cover anything. None of these events are important to the story. It's just things happening that have no bearing on the story or characters as a whole.
>>282380396>>282380380Pajeet literally misread a word >>282380363 and is now patting himself on the back to recover from the irreversible embarrassment he's currently feeling from not just making three separate challenges to prove his point that this show is unique, but failing literally each and every one of them.
>>282380416>not denying being an indiando not redeem the power fantasy saar
>>282380309>I gave you sevenI think you are missing the point. Shouenshit power level stuff is literally about the meme>it's over 9000. When ryu just says >ice wall 69, water cutter 420 and we move onto the next scene it's garbage. The fact you consider all this to be identical demonstrates your lack of understanding of the genre
>>282380416>>282380433>A minute apart.Lol.
>>282380437There's no point in it, the only people who care about Dalit indians, castes, or brown skin are other Indians. Not to mention you inflicted all of this confusion on yourself because you have a tenuous grasp on basic English. >>282380390 so I'm clearly already talking to one. I don't need to prove my whiteness to some caste-obsessed dolt who can't read a simple sentence.
>>282380457>I'm going to scream samefagging after flooding the thread with it! Please just stop embarrassing yourself. You made a shit take based on a misunderstanding and got corrected. There's no need to continue throwing a tantrum.
>>282365862>Overpowered MC doing nothing for 99% of the showI actually really regret watching this show. Ill finish it obviously but its so slow and nothing happens. You get baited by the opening eps of MC figuring stuff out, but once they get to town its just zzzzzzzzzzzz. MC has probably spent a total of 10 mins actually doing something on screen in the last 8 episodes. World building blah blah. Problem is that the characters and world are boring and the only interesting thing about them is MC.And the world doesn't care in the slightest about the MC>I was trained by the fairy king.Oh thats cool.>I use chantless magic Oh thats cool. Ill keep chanting tho.>I use magic on a completely didn't scale than anything you've seen beforeOh thats cool. Thanks for saving us. Goodbye>Oh I ran into a super powerful akuma that wouldve easily decimated the town Im in and everyone is lucky it was me who ran into them.Yeah I shouldn't tell anyone.
>>282380463>>282380472>dalit pajeet doubling down on acting like a monkey because he's too stupid to understand even basic bitch isekailmao
>>282380455The replies ITT are getting more and more mysterious. I don't know what is irony and what isn't anymore.
>>282380473You forgot:>Food :/>Food, Japan :0
>>282380473There were people who did get excited about all that, he killed them to keep his life comfy and slow.Also, would you as a regular Joe want to pester a guy who is effectively a god?
>>282380455>Shouenshit power level stuff is literally about the meme>it's over 9000. When ryu just says >ice wall 69, water cutter 420 and we move onto the next scene it's garbage. Anon why do you think it was a plot point that nobody can do what Ryu is doing? This is power level battling. It was showing that Ryu is by far the strongest human and his only peers are demons like the Akuma and demigods. Are you going to split so many hairs that we're now arguing the TYPE of fighting is what makes it? We've already been over the fact that the plot revolves around which fights Ryo gets into, but that's because the show sucks at what it's trying to do.
>>282380472Just ignore the imbecile. It doesn't matter if he's retarded of merely "pretending".
>>282380489They aren't mysterious. There's a shitposter who got whacked about 50 posts back trying to whinge and bitch about /pol/shit and brownskins because he wants to exhaust and spam the thread and hopefully get everyone's minds off of his fuckup.
>>282380500>Dropping the pretense entirely and just copypasting the usual antijapan spam.Grim.
>>282380518Right-o, I'm just fueling the fires of schizophrenia when I even acknowledge him. >>282380520Okay but the "FOOD, JAPAN :D" thing is an obnoxious isekai trope. It always is. Worse, it was a huge wasted opportunity to maybe bring everyone together and learn a bit more about the people around Ryo.The Elf inviting Ryo to eat curry with her was a peak character moment that lasted two minutes and was never mentioned again. Poor elf is down bad for Ryo but the story wants to take the camera off of her, and focus on a character we have one episode left to develop.
>>282380510For transparency (not that it matters at the rate this thread is devolving lol) I'm a different anon. But anyway, all I am saying is nobody even seems to care that they can't do it. Most of reds party refused to believe he was even capable of half the shit he said happened on their travels, and he doesn't even talk about the akuma fight with anyone so it basically never happened.My personal criticism is simply none of this matters and basically any growth or character development ended by the third episode.
>>282380520the guy is pissy his other anti-isekai thread got hijacked by people calling out the bullshit, please understand
>>282380535You need a decent show to get decent discussion. Which this show has torpedoed so now it's just a haven of shitposters.Plus, someone linked a post in this thread in the designated Isekai shitting thread.
>>282380555>Doing ze trope bad.>But not doing it also bad, I want it to do it because I want the elf to wank my self-insert.Do you even hear yourself?> is down bad for Nevermind I'm talking to a literal niggerbrained monkey.
>>282380508>would you as a regular Joe want to pester a guy who is effectively a godYes actually. If I journeyd through the mountains no one thought was possible Id be begging this guy to party up with me and glazing him every chance I get. >Oh a dungeon leak greater than anything written in the history books is about to happen and theres a real chance everyone diesYeah lets not ask my friend who is the strongest person I ever met for help.
>>282380555>lasted two minutes and was never mentioned againlol you also reminded me that there could have been another good interaction since Abel promised to take him there and Ryo just straight up found the place himself and hung out with Sera instead. But instead we get nothing.
>>282380555>the mask slips and the jeet ends up accidentally admitting he's a shounennigger using nigger lingogrim
>>282380565>>282380594Of all the isekai you choose to make a stand on, you choose this one. A show that has zero redeeming qualities.
>>282371007The problem with overt power fantasy shit is that you either have to sideline the over powered main character because they can solve any problem without thinking so you use the weaklings to create tension or you go full Lloid and everything is fucking boring and you want to murder the MC for constantly humble bragging.
Christ I don't even know who is trolling whom anymore. I wish this episode had more elf...
>>282380611Do you actually have a counter-argument to me pointing out you are literally contradicting yourself within the same post?It's not even the first time you do it in this thread either.
>>282380607Yeah Able just vanished. didn't even accompany Ryo to the canteen anymore. That's kind of the pattern this show follows, character shows up and them promptly vanishes.>>282380559>and he doesn't even talk about the akuma fight with anyone so it basically never happened.This is another problem with the showThe Akuma is by far the best fight this show has. It shows Ryo's capabilities, she's clearly a match or even a greater match, and the fight had depth, strategy, and some budget behind it.Never mentioned again. This could have happened at any time during the show and be just as relevantA shallower person would think this was only put in for the purposes of making Trailers, but I do think this is probably just as sudden as in the Light Novel. It's just they should have sculpted the story to make this relevant because it's something everyone liked.
>>282380639>Do you actually have a counter-argument to me pointing out you are literally contradicting yourself within the same post?you don't seem to get that screaming 'nigger' isn't a counter argument. you should try getting one first. Your counterargument is the equivalent of "minor spelling mistake LMFAO" which isn't a contradiction, you're just a /pol/tard.
>>282380639NTA you don't have an argument because the show DID showcase Ryo and the Elf together, that's one of the better things the show decided to do. Your whole disjointed non-sequitur of a shitposting spree seems to be centered on the idea that the only thing people hate is something something self insert strawman. This show is awful because it's a disjointed mess of incompatible story elements, not because of self-inserts. You made that up and then started arguing with it when no one else said anything about it.
>>282380686>>282380709>about a minute apart againkekat least change your posting style while phoneposting anon
>>282380655So realistically who do we blame for this? Director? Producer? I looked up some of them on MAL and they all have some experience. I'm just curious who the Japanese generally send hatemail to for something like this.
>>282377855Magic Maker was ok It was fun seeing Shion developing magic from scratch and that carried out through the whole seasonAlso Marie was cute until she turned into a vegetable.Water Magician is worse.It was a bit fun seeing Ryo at the beginning living as a hermit and the episode of traveling with Abel was good, but everything else after that has been too different and quite of a downgrade from the first episodes.Also as others have mentioned, it feels like MC is just orbiting the show, which wouldn't be an issue if we at least had a glimpse of where things are going.
>>282380686>/pol/ out of nowhere.
>>282380630There's just one guy screaming nigger and pajeet at nobody over arguments nobody ever said, and he's the only troll or possibly just extremely mentally ill.The fact they had the Elf in the show for like a minute just to specifically say "I GUESS WE'RE NEVER SEEING YOU AGAIN!" is just insult to injury.>>282380718Anon those two posts are over two fucking minutes apart. I know you can't read a clock and are clearly mentally ill but can you at least ask an adult how to subtract two numbers?
>>282380769>complains about isekai bad because harems>complains about isekai bad because girls don't suck the dick of his self insertand now you will go off on a gpt generated tangent about how you just want le good writing and asking if that's too much to ask for
>>282380769Anon, please, just ignore the shitposter. It doesn't mater if he's a retarded child having a melty. Just fucking ignore.
>>282380755The idea of MC orbiting the show could have been incredibly novel too. Like he has the power to change anything in the world, but has no desire to go out of his way to do so. However, they seem to somehow even mess up that premise by randomly having him refuse to acknowledge the world or interact with people who are relevant to his current thoughts/questions.
>>282380801>Everyone not circlejerking my opinion is just a troll and/or kid.Grim.Just go back to your reddit hugbox at that point.
>>282380812But at least he loves curry, anon. Isn't that relatable?
>>282380738That's the thing. I don't know if anyone is at fault.We could make some "SOCIETY IS THE PROBLEM" blame game about how this really only happens because of the massive demand for adaptations and how studios will fund anything that claims to be an Isekai adaptation but almost never anything new because of the casualty rate of original shows. That would be a cop-out. The reality is this LN/WN/Manga is not the best candidate for adaptation. At least not without massive changes to the source material. This happens a bunch. Gate is one of my favorite Isekai mangas only because of how bombastic the creator decided to lean in to the Action Hero Rambo concept of the plot. But compared to the WN? It's completely different. The Anime itself showcased how different it was, and how right the Manga artist was to change the plot to fit the Manga.So we get to Water Magician, out of curiosity I went and looked up the Manga to see if it had the same problems, and I didn't even get a few pages into a RAW before I found, immediately, that this is being treated even worse than the Anime adaptation. Look at this. This is an embarrassingly bad adaptation of anything. Likely, the Mangaka has the same prospects about translating it to a Manga as I do about its translation into an Anime. Which is sad. I'm sure there is a way to adapt the LN, but no one has found it yet.
>>282380769>i can't be arsed to reply properly to anyone pointing out the flaws on my arguments so i will just call everyone that doesn't circlejerk with me a troll and /pol/
>>282380812I like Elaina, too. It would have been a much better way to adapt this series than what we got.
>>282380884But shouldn't you first learn to properly read a time stamp?
>>282380801No, you're right. It's clear he's buttblasted and I'm just engaging with an idiot trying to waste our time.
>>282380862He's just like me frfr
>>282380738>>282380876>That's the thing. I don't know if anyone is at fault.I repeat what I told you before because apparently you are that new.The anime industry is an industry of glorified ads that haven't even helped sell the source material since at least 2015, if not earlier.>The reality is this LN/WN/Manga is not the best candidate for adaptation.Yes and no, that's just the natural outcome of requiring a literal decade of sweatshopping to adapt the average short LN.>I found, immediately, that this is being treated even worse than the Anime adaptation.See the first point and just swap out "anime" for "manga".It's even worse with manga because at least anime sometimes pretend to adapt the source material, most manga since covid straight up are abridged adaptations full of comedy where there was none to try grab eyeballs on a best case scenario, and straight up not caring and cashing in the paycheck at worst.
>>282380812He wants to go back home to his house in the forest. The only reason he's still in the city is he wants to learn about alchemy as that would be fun for his forest living.
>>282380934>Yes and no, that's just the natural outcome of requiring a literal decade of sweatshopping to adapt the average short LN.Let's say this was the best produced Anime ever and had dozens of competent industry heads and veterans on it.That doesn't solve the fundamental problem that the story, the setting, the characters, almost every single tentpole adapted from the LNs are garbage. They would need a MUCH bigger retooling than just "Let's add more budget to it". It needs a thorough once-over with an editor, a writer, and a producer. >I repeat what I told you before because apparently you are that new.Wrong, I don't think your solution is really the solution in general.You could commission the world's best carpenters to make the world's best two-legged chair, and despite all of their efforts, at the end they would have just made a really shitty chair. Money, time, talent, none of that could fix the problem of the idea simply being flawed.
>>282380876gonna be honest it feels like you are having the novelfag realization that all adaptations are dogshit by default but are in denial over it and sperging out at everyone around uswhich is fucking weird because usually people have the JOP realization all translations are dogshit by default so the second pill goes down the throat much easier
>>282380972>Let's say this was the best produced Anime ever and had dozens of competent industry heads and veterans on it.Congratulations on having a season every 2 years and thus taking an average of 14 years to adapt the average short LN.>That doesn't solve the fundamental problem that the story, the setting, the characters, almost every single tentpole adapted from the LNs are garbage. That's your assumption m8.>They would need a MUCH bigger retooling than just "Let's add more budget to it". It needs a thorough once-over with an editor, a writer, and a producer. And now you get a season every 5 years instead, taking about 20 years for the average short LN, let alone a long one.>Wrong, I don't think your solution is really the solution in general.There's no solution because anime and manga are shit mediums for adaptations on the sole fact a LN volume can be written in 2 months while an anime season takes a year minimum and that's with heavy sweatshopping.Unless you're adapting traditional shounenshit like warm piss in which case you can cheat by just tracing manga panels and having half the episode be flashbacks and summaries of what happened last episode.>You could commission the world's best carpenters to make the world's best two-legged chair, and despite all of their efforts, at the end they would have just made a really shitty chair. Money, time, talent, none of that could fix the problem of the idea simply being flawed.Bad analogy.A better analogy is asking a single craftman to make a really good chair.Doesn't matter how good that chair is, you are not going to fill a stadium with his work in any reasonable timeframe.Doesn't matter how cheap and fast it is, you are still going to take a long time putting all the chairs in place even if you buy in bulk from some chink factory.
>>282380273no
>>282380992>gonna be honest it feels like you are having the novelfag realization that all adaptations are dogshit by default but are in denial over it and sperging out at everyone around usNot all adaptations are bad tho. This one is particularly fucking awful.
>>282380972lay off the video essays, starting off from the "this is shit" point already is a bad faith argument
>>282380755Reminds me of to your eternity, after a 10/10 first ep and 9/10 first arc, it shit the bed, then it started rolling in it before starting to eat it.Many works have the problem where there is a good core idea/premise, and the world is decently built up, but there is only enough story for one book and instead of doing a single good arc they go and dilute it into forever works and keep bolting on shit until it collapses.Like the dungeon arc, the village arc and this one are all random and doesn't tie into the story.
>>282381092there's a difference between it not being a bad anime and being a bad adaptationall adaptations are bad by default, that doesn't change for animeonlies that you they may be enjoyable for whatever reason may be
>>282381083Sounds like Ryo desu.
>>282381051>Congratulations on having a season every 2 years and thus taking an average of 14 years to adapt the average short LN.I was saying this hypothetically. It still wouldn't fix the problems with the show.>That's your assumption m8.No, the story just isn't good. There is no more discussion about it. The story, as presented, wouldn't work in any anime by any director.>A better analogy is asking a single craftman to make a really good chair.But it's not a good chair, that's the problem. If the chair were good or had good parts, that would be one thing. This show is like a mockery of a chair that nobody can actually sit in. If you mass produced it, it would still be a bad chair. If you had an expert craftsman make it, it's still a bad chair.
>>282381112Waterfag isn't a apollyon SCP that turned out to be the embodiment of the concept of multiversal entropy anon.
>>282380329Don't be so sure.This got a second season, and as someone who fininished it, I can assure you that it's much worse than Water Magician
>>282381105>all adaptations are bad by defaultThat is just simply not true. You can have a good adaptation if you are willing to make sacrifices for the original piece of art. STALKER is an excellent adaptation of a movie, which was adapted from a book, but its take completely different from what the book or the movie is like. It has to be. >that doesn't change for animeonliesLiterally I started this by saying that I read light novels. Why are you putting words in my mouth and who are you quoting?
>>282381105>reeee animeonly>goes to a thread about the animeobsessed and dumb.
>>282381131this, but with water.
>>282381120Let me say it in food analogy real quick to see if that gets the point across.>I ate this paper print of this burger, then I turned around and licked a paper with the burger's taste written on it.>Therefore this burger just isn't good and there's no more discussion about it, it just tastes bad regardless of how you present it to me.And this is mind you ignoring the double whammy of having to learn japanese for it with how dogshit LN translations have been for a decade, which is it's own can of worms.If you are already drilling your ass into the ground of the "This is shit and you are not changing my opinion on it" then it does bring to question why are you even trying to "discuss" at all, unless you're just trying to convince yourself of it.
>>282380266>>282379777>>282374087>>282380001>>282380203I'm glad someone else realizes that this shit was like a family guy parody.
>>282381148>if you are willing to make sacrifices for the original piece of art.then by definition it is a bad adaptationanime and manga are dogshit adaptation mediums, they only work when something is intended to work for those mediums from the ground up, aka anime/manga originals
>>282381197>If you are already drilling your ass into the ground of the "This is shit and you are not changing my opinion on it" I didn't say that. >>Therefore this burger just isn't good and there's no more discussion about it, it just tastes bad regardless of how you present it to me.Okay but I'm not arguing that it's like a burger. I'm arguing it's like someone wrote "Shit" on the paper instead of "burger taste". I don't eat shit, so I can't really approximate what it tastes like, but I can tell that what I am looking at is supposed to represent shit. It's not that I can't be convinced: I am not convinced this story has a good way to be adapted or is even worth adapting in the first place. The interesting bits like >>282380508 killing a guy to keep his slow life going would be great for an adaptation. It's unfortunately buried under billions of chapters of tasting curry and shouting "OIISSHIIIIIII" which isn't the parts that would be interesting to be adapted. There is a good way to do it, I've seen good adaptations, they require more effort than just copying the LN 1:1
>>282381222Right, the good adaptation vs a good property. STALKER is a 'Bad' adaptation of Roadside picnic, but it's a great video game. STALKER the movie is an approximation of roadside picnic, but it's still not a great adaptation because it's not printed on physical pages in a book.But anon, that's just splitting hairs. Of course we know we aren't reading a book. The point of adapting something is to make the best representation of it in another medium. A painting of someone isn't a bad adaptation of a person just because that painting doesn't represent every side of them. It's semantics at that point.
>>282381268>I'm arguing it's like someone wrote "Shit" on the paper instead of "burger taste".Then you are indeed by default making the "This is shit and you are not changing my opinion on it" assumption.>It's not that I can't be convinced: I am not convinced this story has a good way to be adapted or is even worth adapting in the first place.It is indeed that you can't be convinced thanks to a variety of prejudices you keep showcasing.> I've seen good adaptations, Oh boy here we go.Such as?
>>282381197Since when were WN ever venerated as some kind of supreme art form? Is this pic supposed to be a joke and I'm just being dumb? Even if the point of the pic is about the supposed superiority of the source material, there have been multiple exceptions to this rule. Also, it's not like Japan is famous for it's quality writing, there are very few stories that will stand the test of time and be lauded as masterpieces. Many of the accomplishments of manga and anime are typically aesthetic anyway.
>>282381294the fact you need to use westoid media points of comparison like a tourist is very telling
>>282381295>Then you are indeed by default making the "This is shit and you are not changing my opinion on it" assumption.No I'm not. The series as is could have been good if someone wrote burger taste, but instead they just wrote shit. >Such as?The aforementioned STALKER is one example. If specifically LN/WN then Bookworm's manga has been pretty good if not taking some liberties. Again, I said this earlier, I like GATE's manga adaptation. I think its Manga adaptation is better than the WN and it's so far ahead it's not even a challenge.
>>282381314The fact you have to change the topic instead of addressing it is extremely telling at how confident you are at being able to address it. If your only argument is "well westshit sucks who cares about that" then why even reply? It's clearly an example.
>>282381309>Since when were WN ever venerated as some kind of supreme art form?Since they were the rawest original intend of the author without any kind of external meddling like editors, flaws and all.>Even if the point of the pic is about the supposed superiority of the source material, there have been multiple exceptions to this rule. Which by definition would confirm the rule.>Also, it's not like Japan is famous for it's quality writing, there are very few stories that will stand the test of time and be lauded as masterpieces. And this is just straight up once again diving straight into anti-japan propaganda memes resulting in prejudices.>Many of the accomplishments of manga and anime are typically aesthetic anyway.And this is just trying to preemptively cope about a different argument.
>>282381309> Is this pic supposed to be a joke and I'm just being dumb?It was supposed to be a joke but it was saved by someone who isn't too bright and didn't get it and took the shitposting image joke seriously. It's like the people who seriously think Diaz killed Mangadex. >>282381346bro no, you fell for a shitposting psyop, don't double down on it.
>>282381328somehow doesn't surprise me someone crying LNs bad is a bookform femoid kekits just MT for women
>>282381368>anything that doesn't agree with my animeonly tourist takes is a psyophave you tried not being an illiterate nigger?
>>282381346>Since they were the rawest original intend of the author without any kind of external meddling like editors, flaws and all.Authorial intent means jackshit when you are effectively contributing to a mass entertainment medium with a tendency to zero artistic integrity or striving for excellence. Most of the Japanese writing has this sense of being "therapeutical", like salaryman isekai-ing to booby boob world or whatever the fuck.>Which by definition would confirm the rule.I am being charitable here. But even if I do concede your point, so what? Anime productions are way more involved affairs than, say, a mangaka's studio or some teenager writing schlock on his phone. And even if the adaptation of this kind of source material falters, it's not like it failed to live up to the lofty artistic heights of the original work.>And this is just straight up once again diving straight into anti-japan propaganda memes resulting in prejudices.The fuck are you even on about.>And this is just trying to preemptively cope about a different argument.Huh?? "Cope" about what?
>>282381368Are you legitimately trying to argue a literal "product" after editor meddling for the LNs, after going through a mangaka that is just shitting out whatever for a paycheck, after the anime uses said manga as a glorified storyboard, and after the anime gets censored for global audiences, and THEN after it gets further butchered for the english dubs, and THEN speedwatched by ecelebs to put out "content" is the best form of the artistic intent?>>282381441>Authorial intent means jackshit when you are effectively contributing to a mass entertainment medium with a tendency to zero artistic integrity or striving for excellence. Most of the Japanese writing has this sense of being "therapeutical", like salaryman isekai-ing to booby boob world or whatever the fuck.Again, that's just another wave of prejudices.>Anime productions are way more involved affairs than, say, a mangaka's studio or some teenager writing schlock on his phone.This is not a good thing.>And even if the adaptation of this kind of source material falters, it's not like it failed to live up to the lofty artistic heights of the original work.By definition it very much did fail to do so.
>>282381441i repeat what i said before of you having the realization all adaptations are inherently dogshit but being in denial over it and trying to make it everyone else's problem
>>282381485>Again, that's just another wave of prejudices.How?>This is not a good thing.Sure, in the sense that there are way more moving parts and so there are many more points of failure. But it isn't rare to find anime that noticeably elevates the source material. So why isn't this accomplishment that much more impressive?>By definition it very much did fail to do so.It's a zero sum game. Studios are looking for bullshit to adapt because of the economic incentive, and we're way past the point where everyone is scrapping the bottom of the barrel. A bad adaptation of bad source material is utterly meaningless.
>>282381529I have no idea who you think you're talking to, but I would suggest trying to individualise anons. Not only that makes for very poor conversations, that's only an excuse for schizophrenic outbursts. I've intruded in this comment chain simply because of the extreme stupidity of an image that was posted.
>>282381589>but I would suggest trying*not
>>282381563>How?At this point you're just being intentionally obtuse.>Sure, in the sense that there are way more moving parts and so there are many more points of failure. It also means more cooks in the kitchen, and also exponentially higher wage costs, which inevitably results on requiring higher watering down for the lowest common denominator.>But it isn't rare to find anime that noticeably elevates the source material. It is so rare you barely see that once every 5 years anon.And even then the examples tend to be either shounenshit or only considered such because the anime watchers are too dumb to understand the source material and just wank themslevs off over the SAKUGA of the fights.>So why isn't this accomplishment that much more impressive?Why would it be?>It's a zero sum game. Studios are looking for bullshit to adapt because of the economic incentive, and we're way past the point where everyone is scrapping the bottom of the barrel. A bad adaptation of bad source material is utterly meaningless.Or they could try doing original ideas instead of coping with adaptations.
>>282381715>At this point you're just being intentionally obtuse.Anon, are you just trying to waste my time with an insincere discussion? Is that it?>It also means more cooks in the kitchen, and also exponentially higher wage costs, which inevitably results on requiring higher watering down for the lowest common denominator.I've already agreed on complexity. I'm not sure why you're introducing an economic factor. And I'm especially not sure why you're assuming that the adaptation process necessarily produces a "watered down" work.>It is so rare you barely see that once every 5 years anon.No, it isn't.>And even then the examples tend to be either shounenshit or only considered such because the anime watchers are too dumb to understand the source material and just wank themslevs off over the SAKUGA of the fights.First of all, you excluding stuff you don't like is in bad faith. Just because it happens to works you don't appreciate doesn't mean that the phenomenon of anime objectively elevating the source material doesn't exist.Secondly, anime is anime. And the point of this medium is producing animation excellence. So you complaining about sakuga is completely bizarre and makes me wonder about if you're actually just trolling.>Why would it be?Again, because of the complexity of the enterprise.>Or they could try doing original ideas instead of coping with adaptations.It doesn't matter if I agree with you here or not. That isn't the discussion we were having, was it? We were talking about adaptations.
>>282381328honzuki wn/ln to anime was pretty gracious. i picked up the wn after season 2 and it was basically the same but like 50% more density.>>282381485in honzuki they changed pov of some chapters from one char to another. the prose got a bit more mainstream.my favorite way of consuming things is usually watching the anime, or finding a wn directly, then inserting extra chapters, illustrations and soundtrack as i read.
>>282380082>This concept is so overdone I'm being confused by multiple shows airing in the same season.Were you around for the battle harem golden age?
>>282367788>>282367808Alright, it was not just me.This show just sucks ass.
>>282382486>that was 10 years agoWHERE DID TIME GO?
>>282380655I get the impression from the anime the author has a lot of bigger ideas and worldbuilding, the side characters have a lot going on and they have relationships with each other when the MC isn't around, as has been noted his role is largely to ferry the viewer to more interesting people, but I'm not sure the show's fundamental issues with things being picked up, fondled, set down, and forgotten could have been injected by a studio, if there was any kind of coherence they could have just followed that. It's a shame, I'd hope someone who named a bunch of characters after western SFF authors would have picked up more of what made those work.Watching this show fills me with ideas of how I could do it better, it's a huge creative boost, but I don't want to write an isekai
>>282382558Right out the window, I tried to hold on but I didn't even know
>they cut ship autism that is probably laying groundwork for MC's stupid jet stream attack>they cut the elf interlude and only showed the end part where she goes to the guild and gets upset>all for a flashback of a character that's going to be a retard in the next episode (to explain why he's a retard)I mean I sort of understand from the director's perspective but man, shit sucks.
Back to this, please?
>>282382603>Hey Oscar you think there'll be bandits?>flash cut to bloody peasants and crying child and scarred bandit>back to Oscar being angryAll it needed, but they had to build an entire QUALITY palisade for there to be a little battle with no establishing shots.
>>282381145Haremshit is cancer
>>282382635Yeah I don't know why the director decided to make the flashback 10 minutes long instead of just including the ship + elf scenes on top of a shorter flashback to pad it out. I know they want to end in the battle but it was a weird decision.
>>282381145slaveshit is cursed.>>282382486i know i wasn't around the VN adaptation golden age, but i did start before SAO exploded so my first hundred shows had a lot of 2000s.
>>282382635The flashback was entirely for the reason why he's going to attack Room 10 in the next episode instead of seeing the bandits on the ground and realizing they probably saved her.
>>282382740don't care, didn't watch it.no twink CV murase, no erof CV hondou, no abel's party. why bother?
Goddamnit I really wanted to like this but HOLY FUCK ITS SO GODDAMN BADLynch the fucking director and make an example of him
>>282382624faggot, ryo is for elf pussy only.
>>282383070elves are for ryo's wet dong. he'll outlive them all.
>everyone on /a/ seems the hate the show>Episode 11anon... you can drop shops you find boring...
>>282383445no I'm almost enjoying my anger
>>282383445Who said it's boring? This is so bad that it's entertaining
>>282383445I love Sera, she is so cute
>>282376675>I've endured 11 episodes of this slopSounds like it's doing something right then. If it was bad you wouldn't endure it.
>>282376788I mean they told his backstory of about how everyone he loves dies and oh look another opportunity for a loved one to die. Of course he's now on the shoot first ask later position.
I don't even know how people stayed so long watching the show only realizing now that Ryo is in no great hurry to do things while the viewer is like Ryo do something!
>>282377887lol, japanese people love "humble" overpowered MC like Ryo. It's also full of Japanese influences like the food and curry. And the jp LN is up to like 15 volumes with no end in sight. And, it's one of the highest rated WNs on Syosetu, top 25 iirc. And the anime has placed top 5 every week in view count. This slop is like fentanyl to japs.
>>282365862>Slow.>Life.>Adventure.You get what you fucking asked for.
>>282383720they showed just enough elf to keep me hooked
>>282384252welpsounds like it's definitely getting another seasonI'll be shocked if it's not immediately announced
she will be in the finale right
>>282383445This is like a really fascinating trainwreck. I wish I knew how to explain it.
The episode that divided /a/...
>>282383070The elf is furniture, bros are for bros
WHERE IS THE FUCKING ELF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This was probably the weakest episode so farJesus Christ this could've started with the later half
>>282385652Of course. She is the FeMC.
Why isn't there more screen time for that character with zero personality that exists only to slob the knob of Ryo? She is blonde and has elf ears, so this is very important to me, more so than anything else this show may be about.
>>282380629webmrelated has overpowered MC, he wasn't sidelined, he was solving most of the story problems and it was fun all the way through
>>282383034Clevatess was the only good fantasy this season.
>>282386305At least it gives context for why they are about to fight, but yeah, it probably didn't need to be that long
>>282387689I like Clevatess but man this season was dire if it was the best in its genre
>>282386292in the ED
>>282367808Can you name some outside of this garbage bin series?
>>282373891>>282379924>>282391275What's up with all the newfags? Come back when you've consumed at least 200 separate pieces of Japanese entertainment, be it manga, anime or WN/LNs.
>>282391275Silent Witch did one last week
I just came in to check how the threads for this show were, it seen the show sucks indeed.
>>282392016It's not that bad, I think anons are mostly exasperated at the lack of elf
>Tate no Yuusha thread>a bunch of screenshots, comments about wanting to fuck Atla, and the new raccoon empress ghost who looks just like Raphtalia>one guy (who posts in every thread) says "I watched it.">thread dies>Mizu thread>fucking 150 posts of the most rabid shitflinging, arguing just for the sake of arguing, barely tangential to the episode whatsoeverIt felt like I needed to carve a fucking elevator with water beams to get to the bottom of this thread, holy fuck bros
>>282392079>elevator with water beamsDidn't this show have someone who did that, one of those minor characters that was introduced and forgotten
>>282391787I should probably rephrase the question. Can you name some useless flashbacks in a series that isn’t a boring slogfest?
>>282387689It only had like two good episodes but since it has an interesting premise it has a decent chance at improving
>>282392374ah right some wanker who can't afford boots
>>282393276fuck, i meant >>282392129
>>282389273It's a very good season, but definitely not for isekai
>>282392234Why do nips have such a hardon for series that are boring slogfests
>>282391275Demon Slayer
>I've soundproofed this room so we can talk in private>has the most non-issue to be overheard conversation in the history of the world
So... is it better or worse than Yuusha Party?
>>282395113Lloyd had a good & caring mommymeanwhile Ryo was raised by the jungle. He's like Tarzan. Maybe the dullahan was actually a cute girl though and we just never saw her head.
>>282395113both are their own kind of frustrating
I feel like the final scene doesn't work like it should considering the scrubs have the not broken into a million pieces princess after she got yeeted off a cliff and there SHOULD presumably have been dead terrorists like 10 feet from the people with the princess who is remarkably lightly injured considering what just happened. Oscar might just be retarded.
Even the MC can't be bothered to show up for this.
>>282395603What are you talking about? He was there for a whole 5 seconds.
>>282395113Pink a best
>>282395113Worse I'd say at this point, when the season started I felt like this had a higher chance of being better quality while Yuusha Party was just extremely generic, but this one nosedived and got very bad while Yuusha Party just remained extremely generic.
>>282392079threads for this anime has been very active for some weird reason. an anomaly
>>282395295He is retarded. That whole 10 minute flashback was to explain why he didn't even bother looking at the ground. He saw princess + people holding them and went MUH BANDITS.
>>282395065I don't know, to me it sounded like the dude was in on it and was keeping Abel out of the way by talking too long about something that was just "hey can our people try out your beginner program?"
>>282395225I assumed the dullahan was female at first glance because of the chest armor, but everyone kept saying Fairy king so I'm not sure now. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was female.
>>282396829Yeah that would explain why they did the scene transition in the middle of his talking
>>282395113Even match
>>282396405
>>282397341
>watching Yuusha Party AND Mizu Zokuseiso... do you just watch ALL the adventurer sloppa?
>>282395225>good & caring mommyLying fucking faggot. She mindfucked him into having an unshakable low self esteem while abusing alcohol and having him nurse her.Stupid fucking cunt.
>>282397770I try to.
>>282397770Unironically, yes. I'm about to catch up on the vending machine anime in the next few days.
>>282397858WAOTS*even worse than Kamitsubaki.
>>282396405It's not that deep. Despite being isekai slop the show somehow has an interesting premise and started off with loads of potential. But this is probably the greatest falloff I've ever seen from an anime.
