How did Demon Slayer take off the way it did in Shonen Jump? It starts off incredibly bland sure it's an easy read but nothing happens. The art is fine but again nothing to write home about. I only got some mild interest once the Hand Demon thingy showed up because his design was kinda cool but like I see that shit on page one of other books and that was the end of the first entire volume. Much better looking series pop up and vanish but for some reason this one was popular enough to keep going. What am I missing about the early chapters that made it so compelling? Some standard looking shonen guys with samurai swords fighting standard looking demons is not exactly groundbreaking like I just don't what lead this series to get to continue and thrive over everything else. I'm not being rude I just want to understand what happened here
>>282366837Not even the higher ups at Shueisha can explain what happened.
>>282366837Can you give some examples of some "non standard" shonen that does these things better or in a more unique way?
>>282366837Mid source but has anime with insane production value
>>282369398If only good production value made series popular.
>>282366837>well written classic shonen>cool character design >given god-tier animation and songsSimilar reason as to why Attack on Titan was such a hit.
People liked the writing, like, the sabito and makomo stuff as well as the hand demon.It was all very japanese and spiritual.
>>282366837went to the cinema todayi have not seen so many people in last 5 years or so going to the cinemawhat the fuck
It starts fine but the spiders arc is when shit actually gets pretty good, without that it wouldn't have been so popular.
>>282369597VERY popular movie.
>>282366837Because it's a simple story and seeing such a straight virtuous lead (not to be confused with a perfect Gary Stu) like Tajiro is weirdly refreshing, what with all the shounen leads nowadays being edgier, fighting off their dark side, constant questioning of morality etc and to have a bad guy that again is just that, a bad guy.
>>282366837Sometimes less is more
>>282369675I saw a comment years ago where an anon said the story was too straightforward and boring. That there were no twists or grand reveals that change the narrative. They beat the bad guy and that’s it?
>>282366837Did Avengers Endgame do anything groundbreaking to become a massive hit? If anything, unique things themselves don't lead to explosive hits.
>>282369541>well written classic shonensure>cool character designI could give you simple and classic>given god-tier animation and songsYeah but I'm more curious about how it got to to point it was given this from the early manga>Attack On TitanIt started out much more interesting and unique than anything in Demon Slayer>>282369675I guess this makes some sense
>>282369721If there were thousands of similar superhero movies from different creators with the same budget coming out and Avengers just dropped and pulled away from the pack people would ask how and whyWhen I look at the shit someone like Jack Kirby was doing with early Marvel comics it's pretty clear why it stood out from the other comics and eventually lead to all these movies. I'm asking why early Demon Slayer stood out in Shonen Jump compared to all the other Shonen books some of which don't survive
>>282369721Endgame was the culmination of over ten years worth of movies, starting different characters with different plots and moods. May as well say it did something different.
>>282366837>Good anime adaptation>entertaining main cast>brutal shonen fights>the manga didn't overstay its welcome >had a viral following onlineIts not rocket science.
>>282366837Maybe it’s the exact opposite of what you said and you just didn’t get it?
>>282370042Why was Superman successful compared to every other superhero movie released recently even though DC's reputation was through the mud before its release? Cause Superman is full of hope and its core message is simple enough that it resonated with alot of people especially because of how the world is right now. Same thing happened with Demon Slayer.
>>282369475The anime and manga are two completely different products. The manga itself was just a bunch of mediocre drafts written by an amateur mangaka that then got polished by a AAA studio and turned it into a smash hit.
>>282370502>goes on to have the officially highest sales per volume for any manga >even internationally it's a smash hitSorry Jimbo.
>>282366837Because its easy to meddle with. Some of the best stories ever told are not adapted for TV or movies, because it would be too difficult. Modern Shonen is shit easy to adapt because it doesn't require much intervention like traditional media. The storytelling falls entirely on the original author. (Unless its an OA) Also because shonensloppers gobble that shit up. There are plenty of kino shonen many of which sadly were not adapted
>>282370373Other Shonen manga don't have the exact same message as Demon Slayer?
Superior writing
>>282370547Thanks to the ANIME. That industry insiders admit themselves, which some autists on some African chalkboard forum refuse to admit.Hiroyuki Nakano...>Regarding the series' sudden huge success, Weekly Shōnen Jump editor-in-chief Hiroyuki Nakano stated that the manga sales shot up straight after its anime adaptation finished, explaining that a large number of people watched the series through streaming services after it ended rather than watching it weekly. Nakano also stated that currently is harder for a manga series running in the magazine to become a hit, and Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba despite having started in February 2016, did not became a major hit until late 2019, adding that its "success hinged on word of mouth generated after the anime's run".And Kazuhiko Torishima...>Torishima: Demon Slayer only got so popular because the anime was amazing. The manga itself wasn’t all that great. It’s like the manga was just raw coffee beans, and the anime roasted and brewed them into something truly special.Kimetsu no Yaiba? A badly drawn manga carried by the anime and nothing else. The manga are drafts, the anime is the final product.>highest sales per volumeIs still Dragon Ball. Shueisha just stopped counting.
>have the highest grossing anime adaptation of all time be about a bad boy saved his waifuGive the people what they want.
>>282370668>still Dragon Ball. Shueisha just stopped counting.Shame you have no official source for this beyond your headcanon.Not announced=not official.
>>282366837Sappy plot + Flashy animation. That's why it wasn't popular before the anime, the flashy animation was missing.And don't even try saying "it was popular before the anime" cause it wasn't. Its popularity and sales were mediocre, so much so that everyone expected Neverland, which was already selling 500k per vol before the anime, to become "the next big thing" in 2019, not Kimetsu. The reception surprised even the editors.
>>282371290>That's why it wasn't popular before the anime>Already top 5 TOC before the anime>+100K sales per volumeHeh.
>>282371364it's hilarious what copes people willcome up with for KnY's success
>>282370373>Superman>Successful
>>282366837The fans appreciate that this shonen never tried to dishonestly stretch the story.It's a message for WSJ to drop Oda's dishonest influence.
>>282370708Reminder that Akaza's backstory is straight out of an Uziga Waita guro manga. It's literally the same story. Is KNY's author a fan of guro and ryona? Isn't that kind of sick?
>>282372182Your post contradicts itself. If stretching the story were a problem, OP wouldn't be the best-selling manga in history.
>>282372855>OP wouldn't be the best-selling manga in history.It's one of if not the longest running manga. OP got there mostly on longevity
>>282366837Honestly Im really surprised the movie is as popular as it is. I knew Demon Slayer was pretty popular already but I thought the hype tempered down a lot since Mugen Train. I was dead wrong it seems.
>>282366837it got lucky and got ufo as a studio. as simple as that.
>>282371364100k isn't impressivekny would NEVER have ended as popular as it is currently if it didn't get ufotable and that's a fact
It's simple.Fujos
>>282366837You have been brainwashed by redditors into thinking media needs to be le deep masterpiece in order to be successful. It doesn't. It just needs to deliver on its simple premise. Yet most manga just shit the bed.
>>282366837You always have to consider context OP. KnY is the answer to SnK. People tired of that subversion of expectations bullshit wanted something simple and classic.Something similar can be said about Frieren´s success, except Frieren is actually somewhat good. It´s success however is not entirely due to being good, some of it definitely has to do with people tired of isekai shit and just wanting a regular high fantasy anime. Add to that production values and whatever they had to compete with at the time of release. Timing can be everything. For example, some shows are unlucky and come out at the same time as similar shows or on seasons full of big, very popular shows, they go unnoticed and by the time they get the views it´s already too late.
>>282373265That's a problem with fiction in general. The well has been poisoned by complexity/irony for the sake of it. Too many authors want to be shocking and thought provoking but lack the ability to stick the landing and be consistent.>>282373511Also thisThough i disagree with the notion that frieren any much better than KmY. if anything, they're two sides of the same coin.
>>282373511This is exactly what dragged me into KnY. Too many series trying to be subversive and have crazy plot twists that ruined the story. Funny enough, the whole Eren becoming a titan thing ruined SNK for me when I was expecting just a series about a nation fighting giant abominations. That premise was more interesting than whatever the fuck that direction was.
Someone already animated the second movies kokushibo fight in 3dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB3WG4ipn0M
>>282372855Your post contradicts itself, wanpiss is not the best selling manga in history.
The one thing Demon Slayer never get's credit for is that it got to have it's cake and eat it too. The numerous deaths of main characters makes the plot have real stakes, but the Buddhist reincarnation cycle allows most of them to live on. It's why the modern day reincarnation bits in the ending worked so well
>>282372994>OP got there mostly on longevityIn other words, One Piece's success is more honest than Kimetsu's.
>>282370373And also because, for that reason, it is easier to do a better job writing for it or less likely to fuck shit up.
>>282366837there's no trick to it
>>282374323>Ignore's context>muh more honestWhatever helps you sleep at night.
>>282372477fancy pupil eyes love>delinquent eyes hatredbigggest lesson from the movie
>>282366837Is this your 30th hate thread of the day?
